Lens of Leadership: A Ted Lasso Rewatch Podcast
Marnie Stockman and Nick Coniglio, authors of the book Lead it Like Lasso, dig into each episode of Ted Lasso with a lens of leadership. Each podcast starts with a fun quick-clip summary of the episode. Marnie and Nick tie together the leadership principles from Ted Lasso, their own business successes, thought leaders and everyday advice to help individuals level up as they lead themselves (and others). This is a great podcast for TedHeads! There are many other Ted Lasso podcasts out there - this is the "same but different."
Lens of Leadership: A Ted Lasso Rewatch Podcast
Building Teams with Authenticity and Empathy | S2 Ep8
In this episode, Marnie Stockman and Nick Coniglio, dive into Ted Lasso Season 2, Episode 8—"Man City"—with special guest David Blansfield, Executive Vice President at Northstar Travel Group. David shares insights from his vast leadership experience, blending his professional journey with lessons from the episode.
Highlights Include:
⚽ Roy Kent’s Reluctant Arc: David reflects on why Roy Kent resonates with him and the leadership lessons in owning personal growth—even when reluctant.
⚽ Higgins in the Closet: A discussion of humility in leadership and why the size of your office doesn’t determine your value to the team.
⚽ Ted and Dr. Sharon’s Breakthrough: A powerful exploration of core values, vulnerability, and how serendipity (and a few missteps) can spark authentic connections.
Special Guest Insight:
David Blansfield shares stories of mentorship, humility, and leading from the trenches, including his experience working alongside his team—whether it’s stuffing swag bags or running the registration desk. He highlights:
✅ Why vulnerability and humor are secret weapons in leadership.
✅ The value of showing employees you’re willing to roll up your sleeves.
✅ Lessons from Ted Lasso on building trust and fostering connection.
💡 Key Takeaway: Leadership is about showing up authentically, building relationships, and leading by example. When leaders are humble, vulnerable, and approachable, they inspire loyalty and foster trust within their teams.
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Welcome to Lens of Leadership, our Ted Lasso rewatch podcast. Before we dive into this episode's leadership lessons, let's watch a quick recap.
Speaker 2:Season 2, episode 8. Man City starts with Dr Sharon's bike ride to work, interrupted when she is hit by a car. Nate wants to run training when Roy and Ted have emergencies that are none of his business. Jamie doesn't answer his dad's call. Sam does. Little do they know that Sam and Rebecca have a blind date with each other. Ted takes Dr Sharon home from the hospital. Roy learns from Phoebe's teacher that his cussing is a bad influence. Jamie picks up tickets for his dad from Higgins in the supply closet. Phoebe and Roy eat ice cream while discussing bullies. Ted and Sharon have an awkward moment. Rebecca tells Sam it must just be dinner. Dr Sharon admits to Ted that she was scared. The team heads to Wembley. Ted is honest with the coaches about his panic attack. Nate gets a red card as they lose. Jamie's dad gets a punch in the mouth from Jamie. Roy gives him the hug he needs. Ted, finally, is honest with Sharon. The episode ends as Beard needs to walk it off.
Speaker 1:Hi everyone. I'm Nick Negleo and I'm Marnie Stockman, and this is Lens of Leadership, a Ted Lasso rewatch podcast. We're the authors of Lead it Like Lasso, a leadership book for life, your life.
Speaker 3:And this podcast is an extension of many of the elements outlined in our book. We invite you to join us as we take a deep dive into each episode and explore the leadership principles as they play out in this series. And for today's episode we're diving into season two. Episode eight man City.
Speaker 1:And we are super excited to welcome David Blansfield. So a little bit on David. He's the executive vice president, group publisher of the North Star Travel Group. He manages North Star Travel Group's meetings, brands and events businesses. The North Star Meeting Group is the industry's most important source of research, analysis, media and marketing services in the US and really worldwide over. They have offices in New York, london and Singapore. The North Star Meetings Group provides this range of services to over 400,000 travel professionals worldwide. Now, david's management experience ranged from small startups to large corporate divisions, with a primary focus on creating value for companies through launching, integrating, restructuring and growing media and marketing service businesses. I got to be a part of one of these programs at Northstar's Leadership Forum in December and it was impressive, so I was excited to get to go there. We're excited to have David here, so thanks so much for coming.
Speaker 4:It's a pleasure to be here. Thank you very much, marnie. Thank you very much. Nick is a huge fan of Ted Lasso and a huge fan of your book and seeing it in action at our event, it's my honor to be on your show, thank you very much for inviting me.
Speaker 1:So did I miss anything in that intro or did I cover that okay?
Speaker 4:Well, the only thing I would mention is that I've mentored and managed groups, large and small, throughout my career. I think that's why Ted Lasso resonates so much with me, as a lot of the lessons learned in my career I've seen reflected back at me through the show. So that's why I'm just so keen on this whole idea of how you've been able to use it from a management perspective and being able to participate in this conversation today.
Speaker 3:That's awesome. Yeah, that is awesome, and you mentioned it. You're a fan of the show, so we like to start each of our podcasts with a little icebreaker question. Uh, start each of our podcasts with a little icebreaker question, so we're curious um, in watching the show, is there any one specific character that you resonate most most with?
Speaker 4:that's a very, very tough question. One of the reasons why that show is so endearing to me is how lovable all of the characters are. But if I were only to choose one in terms of the characters are, but if I were only to choose one in terms of the one that is most memorable and resonant with me, it would be Roy Kent. I love the character. I love the reluctant nature of his arc. I love the way that he's reflected, how Brett Goldstein reflects his character, how Brett Goldstein reflects his character and and um, you know, I apply a lot of Roy Kent lessons to, uh, to my everyday management because, uh, yeah, uh, it's, it's, it's it's classic.
Speaker 1:I think the statement reluctant arc is fantastic, because boy is that true right. That is not a man that's set out to become a better version of himself. It was truly. That's a great, that's a great statement.
Speaker 3:And we're right, we're talking about the man City episode. We're going to get into that in just a second, but we're right kind of in the middle. You know Roy has been. He's been depicted as this, this character who's so confident in himself, he knows who he is and just in these last two episodes in the previous episode to this, he really just found out that he has a tendency sometimes to crowd people. He was crowding Keely and then in this episode he's really starting to learn a lot more about Phoebe and it's like this great shock and awareness that his cussing is actually rubbing off on some people who look up to him as role models. But yeah, we talk about the Roy Kent character quite a bit, obviously, and he's absolutely one of our favorites. Yeah, he is.
Speaker 1:So another favorite is Higgins. We feel like Higgins brings a lot of leadership lessons to the party, so I wanted to talk about the scene with Higgins in the custodian closet and Jamie coming to get tickets and advice for him First. The first thing that came to mind when I saw that was do you remember Maxwell Smart? Get Smart, where they would have is it Agent 99 or like. Pop up out of the toilet or out of a locker or wherever I was like I think Higgins is that right. He's going to pop up and give the character whatever they need, wherever he is. Come in.
Speaker 3:Hi Hi.
Speaker 2:What's this about?
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm just in here until my office exists. So from the custodian closet we're going to get some lessons from Higgins. So I'm curious what are your thoughts on? Leadership can be found everywhere, like. Are there places where you learn leadership not from a book or you know a podcast?
Speaker 4:Well, if we're going to talk about how leadership is made manifest by that particular scene, the, you know just the fact that you know he's he's a man without an office and how people place so much kind of political capital on how many square feet your office is and where, how his position and how he is perceived within the organization.
Speaker 4:And you know he brings so much, so much joy and so much humility to the show at all times and and obviously a great deal of wisdom. You know the show often he always brings a very positive perspective to the show but then the show always kind of circles back to the idiosyncratic nature of him and his family and how connected he is to his family. I think there's a real strength of character in how Higgins is portrayed in the show and the you know talk about just absolutely you know, incredibly astute analysis of Jamie's position and where Jamie's head was at when he came to see him. You know, obviously Jamie was a bit I don't know. You know he insulted Higgins as Jamie can only do. Yes, he does yeah, but you know Higgins was very much aware of Jamie and Jamie's basic ignorance and was more than willing to to accept that. You know the humor that he shares in terms of just the fathers and sons and how they should be writing songs about that.
Speaker 1:What can I do for you, jamie? Can I get my dad and his two mates on the list of Wembley tickets, please? Of course, family section VIP.
Speaker 4:Put them in the car park for all I care, just getting them tickets.
Speaker 2:so I'll get them back, fathers and sons, so tricky.
Speaker 4:They should really write songs about it. I think they do. You know, not certain that Jamie's going to get the joke is another masterstroke. But to obviously be perceptive and empathetic enough to complicated. All father and sons, you know, are those relationships, are how all relationships are complicated. But then to turn it back and compliment Jamie in such a way that you know it's the VIP ticket is not for the father but the VIP ticket is for you. You know you're the VIP ticket is not for the father but the VIP ticket is for you. You know you're the VIP. It's just a masterstroke of being empathetic and and being uplifting.
Speaker 3:you know, at the same time, there is a lot to unpack with that response you said a lot there.
Speaker 3:But I wanted to kind of take it all the way back to to where you started with that, which was the humility right, because that was, you know, when Marnie and I kind of rewatched these episodes. Uh, we talk a lot about the different scenes and we, um, we didn't really discuss that, marnie, honestly. Um, you know, we, we were more, you know, we're, we're a lot about leadership. Is is life, and you know whether it's the boardroom, the locker room, the classroom or the dining room, and that's kind of where we're at.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the utility closet. But that whole humility thing and we talked about, we listened to your bio, david, and you have a ton of experience as a leader. Was that something at least early on in your career, where the office space, the corner office, where the title, were you ever motivated just purely by that and if so, how did you kind of get over that? I'm curious of what your personal experience was.
Speaker 4:At the end of the day, I think I learned pretty quickly because I've worked at different types of organizations, different sizes and types, and I've worked for myself. I've launched and sold businesses and at the end of the day, I think I learned pretty quickly. It doesn't matter what you call yourself or where you're positioned within the organization. At the end of the day, you got to bring value. You got to bring value to the team, you got to bring value to the business, you got to bring value to the client. So I've always said, whether or not I'm being facetious or not, you can call me chief bottle washer. Just give me my role, my responsibility, and turn me loose, not putting too much stake into what I call myself or where I position myself.
Speaker 4:In fact, I've always felt I was most effective as a manager, kind of taking the Michael Bloomberg approach. I was always impressed with Michael Bloomberg. He never had an office and he was always seated out with his team. And even though I never worked for Bloomberg you know I've never worked for him I visited that offices. I've seen it in action. I saw just how egalitarian the approach was. And to have a multi-billionaire, you know, sitting in an open space without an office, just like everybody else, makes an impression, you know, on you as a potential client of that business, and it would inspire me as an employee to know that the boss is in the trenches with me.
Speaker 1:That's the exact phrase that came to mind. Was in the trenches with you. Yeah Right Right.
Speaker 3:Have you? I'm curious, have you ever? Are you familiar with um the go-giver, a book written by uh Bob Berg and John David Mann?
Speaker 4:No, I'm not familiar with it.
Speaker 3:You might want to add that to your to be read list. I mean just based on the, although you live it clearly but one of the he talks about the.
Speaker 3:You know the five laws of stratospheric success, I think, and one of the, his first law, is the law of value right. Your true worth is determined. You know not how much more you give than what you take, and I think you described that really well and how you were talking about that. It's a great book. It's a great book, yeah, so switching gears a little bit.
Speaker 3:You know, a big part of this, of this particular episode, is the dynamic between Ted and Dr Sharon, and we've seen over the last couple of episodes that it kind of came to a head where they've they've really been clashing and they have they've both been really reluctant to let their guard down up until this episode was much more so ted, but we saw it a lot with dr sharon in this episode and a lot of it is related to how their core values aren't necessarily in sync, lockstep with each other. You know ted's, you know he's very much driven by humor and and and and dr sharon's all about intelligence, sounds like someone I know stop it me and coach less or nothing alike.
Speaker 4:Sharon, you do the same thing he uses humor to deflect.
Speaker 3:You use your intelligence, um, but marty and I talk a lot about the whole notion of core values and how they impact culture. So we're curious, you know in your experiences, how you know, is there an importance, is there emphasis placed on core values, and is that something you kind of lead with with a lot of the organizations that you've been involved with.
Speaker 4:Well, I've worked for a lot of organizations where core values are considered, developed and expressed. However, sometimes those core values are not necessarily fully imbued in the management approach of the organization and, given the fluidity of organizations, I find it very, very difficult for organizations to maintain culture, particularly when you've had a change in leadership and changes of structure within organizations. So, you know, it's easy to talk the talk. It's much more difficult to walk the walk when it comes to really expressing and living a particular culture. So, you know, I kind of take, you know, mission statements and value propositions with a bit of a grain of salt, mission statements and value propositions with a bit of a grain of salt myself, personally, not to say that I'm cynical about them, but personally, you know, I do try to live them and I do think I find myself having a greater degree of job satisfaction when I'm with organizations that I feel share, you know, those types of values. But at the end of the day, if we're going to circle back to the dynamic between Sharon and Ted, ultimately it comes down to, you know, just kind of meeting each other halfway. That was the suggestion that was given by the psychiatric mentor to Sharon prior to the whole episode unfolding and you know, I think, I think we all have a tendency, even though we may have expressed the loftiest of you know, mission statements and value propositions, we all have our, our armor up. You know, we all have our insecurities, we all have our personal vulnerabilities and it's really difficult. I mean you got to wake up every day being willing to shed those consciously, to be able to live that through every single you know dynamic that you have, you really have to catch yourself so you really have to be conscious of it.
Speaker 4:I think the beauty part about this particular episode was the way that the ice was broken between Ted and Sharon. Was a concussion and was her not being aware that she was leaving 35 messages on Ted's phone. So you know, here we have a completely, completely serendipitous, you know, breakthrough here, which also kind of speaks to how difficult it is to make a breakthrough between people who are critical to each other, critical to an organization's success, but you just can't break through it. It's really hard to get equal breakthroughs at the same time. The same meeting halfway is not easy because you've got to, you know each party needs to meet, needs to take a step at the same time, and that's not necessarily easy to adjudicate.
Speaker 3:I, yeah, I, I love that, I love how, how you've interpreted that. It made me think, marnie, you know I just I'm going to ask you a question from from this, from the perspective that David was just talking about. You know, I've I've seen, like David said, you know this whole notion of armor and putting your guard up, and we've worked in organizations together where people were really good at that, you know, keeping their armor up and not letting their guard down, and I've seen you kind of work through that and break that down so effectively. I'm curious if you wanted to share some of your strategies for helping other people let their guard down.
Speaker 1:It's funny because my parents will say, if they're not having success, like getting through to a customer service department or something like, all right, we're going to call Marnie and see what her strategy is, because she always gets the best customer success. And I say it's because I worked in customer success, so I definitely have my you know my super and my daughter literally earlier today said can you text me a script? I have to call someone. But it is. It kind of is back to the go giver book that you mentioned earlier in. Let's think about what that person is thinking about, right, and if the person's in customer success, it's their job to help. But also what's happening to them. They're getting beat up and yelled at all the time. So I will always call and if David picked up the phone, I would say oh David, thank goodness you're here. I think I've screwed up or I think I'm in trouble or I need your help, and I bet you're the human to be the rock star that's going to help me with this. Right, and at this point I'm hoping that David is choosing to be the rock star. You know, with the superhero powers that I need Now, that's not necessarily defenses up, but you know so many times you call a support line and you know somebody's being just hammered on the other thing. And David, you mentioned this, I thought about it with Higgins.
Speaker 1:Higgins always brings his family into it In my last house, my office. So I've worked at home since before. It was cool and I had kids in middle and high school and my office was in a loft and I didn't have a wall and I didn't have a door. So my family listened to literally 100% of my calls and my children are just way more extroverted than I am, so they want to participate in whatever and so they will meet everybody along the way. And I had a boss that was a really good leader of the company. But when I said something like, oh, I think Josie's getting her driver's license today, I didn't get anything from him and I was like what? Like oh, and I absolutely got off that call and said he is going to know my family because that's an important part of how I make connections with people.
Speaker 1:But I didn't start by telling him another thing about Josie until I got all the names of his kids Right and I can remember in the notebook and he wouldn't give up information easily. He just wasn't a small talk guy at all and he one time said Rosetta, and I was like, and then he said another one and I slowly built up this information about him and we became really good friends Like he's. He's been my boss now multiple times. He took me to another company with him. I have called him and said I am going to get fired this afternoon if I don't get myself a job because I am fed up with this company. Can you help? And he has. But I definitely felt like I had to break through the barriers of just kindness bludgeoning. I was Ted Lasso, all over the place. I didn't start with puns, but it was like the family. I don't know if those were the ones you were thinking of, nick, but that's what comes to mind when I think like how to get people's let them let their guards down a bit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean the personal connection. It wasn't just kindness, I think it's the personal connection and obviously that's something that's just evident throughout the entire episode of Ted Lasso, how engaged they are, not just from the standpoint of AFC. Richmond right but the work they put in to build personal connections, which is pretty cool.
Speaker 4:It's kind of funny. Oh go, all all the characters use their sense of humor to really connect with each other. You know hidden strengths, you know superhero strengths, if you will, from a management perspective, is there's there's no denying that you know a smile or a or a or a witty aside or some such way to kind of make people feel like you're not just all business. Even taking a you know a challenge and and making light of it, to some extent, lightening the mood, trying to bring a little bit of like hey guys, this isn't the end of the world type of attitude to what might be considered to be really challenging or just the mundane day-to-day, can make a huge difference, and I think that's the secret weapon for Ted too.
Speaker 4:Again, although it is a comedy, you know, it is a character who uses his sense of humor to bring people together to achieve great things. Here's a guy who, even in this episode, didn't know that stadiums were of different configurations, you know, but yet he's taken this team to the FA Cup semifinal. So how did he do it? You know he did it through masterful ways of bringing his people together to work together and work together well.
Speaker 1:Well, and another one of those ways is through his vulnerability, which he lets out toward the end of this episode, right? So he is now going to fess up about his panic attack, and when he does, he's built such great relationships that what happens? I need to confess something to you. I need to confess something to you I messed up the time zones on our transfer deadline, which is why we didn't sign up that amazing fallback from Brazil.
Speaker 2:Michael, it's okay. Okay, it's okay. Yeah, it's okay. All good, okay, here we go.
Speaker 4:I don't read the scouting reports you guys write. I've lied.
Speaker 2:Every time they come up they're boring and I won't do it. I appreciate that I pretend to get ideas in the moment, but they're just good ideas I've had for months. I just time them to look spontaneous. It's a good move, yeah. Illusion of the first time.
Speaker 3:There was one game this season where I was accidentally on mushrooms.
Speaker 1:Higgins says I like, yep, I screwed up the time zone. Roy says I don't read your scouting reports. Nate says I just make stuff up off the top of my head, but not really. I've had it on for years. And then Beard apparently has been tea, and first he's drinking tea, which Ted was shocked enough with, but it was mushroom tea that that is why he missed something so sort of along those lines. Right Like the vulnerability is another piece that you get when you've built those relationships.
Speaker 4:Well, that's just a great example of the you know you go first. You know demonstrating vulnerability, I'm I'm going to go halfway first and the floodgates open and it's hilarious.
Speaker 1:They all have something to give there.
Speaker 3:That's it.
Speaker 4:That's it.
Speaker 3:You know it's funny, but they you know they they have this theme throughout and vulnerability is a very big theme in very obvious situations throughout the show, like the one that that we had here with with Ted and Higgins and Beard and Nate.
Speaker 3:But. But there's other smaller, less obvious scenes and I think something that resonated with me during this exact episode is the whole adventure that Sam is going on through banter right with Rebecca and just the fact that it's such a personal experience. An online dating app I've never done it, but I know many people who have right but you're putting yourself out there and he's doing it with his support network. His entire team is along the ride with him and he's fully engaged, letting them in, which, to me, as I watched this, being an introverted, pretty personal guy where I'm kind of apprehensive about putting myself out there like that because of fear of some embarrassment to come out of that situation, but it's just another way the show demonstrates that hey, that ability to be vulnerable and put yourself out there in a situation that may not end up exactly the way you want to end up.
Speaker 4:I think they just do a great job kind of reinforcing that point in different, different types of scenarios yeah, and he's a character who's mature beyond his years, um, so, you know, so put together, um, very ethical, high values, great family upbringing. Know, the kind of guy you'd want on your team. You know, who just leads by doing. You know, and by doing and by being, and you know, it would be natural, I think, for the team to be engaged with him in that fashion and be rooting for him in that fashion. So, you know, those are the kinds of teammates you know you long to have and the show was obviously right to exploit that.
Speaker 4:We won't go there in terms of the relationship between Rebecca and Sam. From a management perspective, I think we can table that conversation. But you, you know, getting back to the whole arc of the show, and you know the, the importance of this particular episode in terms of the. You know the, the breakthrough in terms of vulnerability before the, the match, the disaster that was the match, the. You know the, the, the breakthrough experience with jam and Roy, which was, you know, a milestone breakthrough there, with Roy's action in the locker room and then the bombshell at the end with Ted admitting to his father's suicide. Really a milestone, you know, classic episode and a milestone episode in the arc of the show for sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, as.
Speaker 1:Nick and I were reviewing the steps of the show earlier and we talked through it and I said, and you know, and Jamie was crying after Roy hugged him, I was like and everybody watching the show was crying, and everyone I mean, and it just continued when Ted became vulnerable too. It really was. I hadn't thought about that as the peak of the arc of the show, you know as it like the inflection point, maybe not the peak, um, but yeah, that really does. That hit home on so many feels for sure, for sure.
Speaker 3:So, um, as we like to do, we like to end with a trick play, because Marnie and I love trick plays, and so does Ted. So we'd like to ask you, david, if there was a life hack or a trick play that was called the David Blansfield, what would it be?
Speaker 4:I really can't attribute it to myself, because as a leader, as a manager, I'm the product of the many mentors that I've had throughout my career, from my football coach back in my teenage years all the way up to now. In terms of the manager that I currently have. I've been blessed with different managers at different stages of my career and I think this is a factor very much so. I have young kids in the working world now, recent graduates from college and obviously, given the timing of the COVID epidemic and the trend to work from home, the mentorship role that we play as managers is significantly impaired by the fact that the younger people coming into the organization can't necessarily see what you do on a day or how you act on a day-to-day basis. So I mean, I think the earliest hack, if you will, this comes back from one of my first jobs as an intern at university. I worked for public relations. For the university public relations department had a young guy who's probably 26, 27, who was my boss, super buttoned down, but he was the kind of guy who, when the kids were in the mailroom working at 530 on a Friday night stuffing envelopes, he would walk in see what we were doing, take his jacket. This was back in the day when everybody wore jacket and tie took his jacket off undid his tie, rolled up his sleeves, sat down with 10 university students and shattered us up and stuffed envelopes and licked envelopes and waited till it was all done. He didn't leave until we were done and that made a huge impression on me. I would go to the ends of the earth for this guy because of just that simple action that he would do something like that. His schedule was just as important as our schedule and he wanted to make sure that he was right there with us. So I've tended to use that technique quite a bit throughout my career.
Speaker 4:I've acted as you know. I work in the media business. We do events. We have to stuff bags. You know goodie bags and swag bags before events. I make sure I get there. I go ahead and stuff the bags. If we need somebody to work the registration desk, I'll work the registration. I've even worked as a security guard. So you know, whatever it takes to get the job done, even though I've got the lofty title, I'm willing to get there in the trenches as we discussed with the team.
Speaker 4:I think that makes a huge impression on folks when they know that you're right there with them and no job is below you. You know what they're doing. You've experienced you. Demonstrate that you've come up this route as well. I stuffed envelopes back when I was a kid too, and that's not a job that is below me now. I haven't graduated from that responsibility. It's all a part of what we do. So I would say you know of of you know that was that's the earliest hack I learned, nick and Marnie, and I continue to to use it to this day. In fact, I did it, marnie, at this event that you attended in December. I was there when we were stuffing the bags, and I and I did my part.
Speaker 1:I can totally appreciate that. It just my mind has just filled up with some other ideas that I won't bother going on about. But I'm like, yes, this reminds me of some good leaders that I've worked for and what they've done. I think that's that's really important. Since you mentioned the event, um, who are good clients for Northstar and who should reach out to you, and and how should they get ahold of you Should one of our listeners want to contact you?
Speaker 4:Well, if you, if you are, if you're in the travel industry, if you are involved in either planning any kind of group travel, whether it be a meeting event, a sports event, or if you support any of those kinds of initiatives, If you work in the hospitality industry hotels, convention centers, airlines, transportation, you name it Our whole business is about bringing buyers and sellers of group travel together, so I'm more than happy to. If you're not familiar with Northstar, more than happy to make that introduction.
Speaker 1:Well, I've seen the numbers, so I think a lot are familiar with Northstar. But again, they should be able to hunt you down. Now you are on LinkedIn because I know we're connected there, so is that a good way to find you?
Speaker 4:By all means yes, please.
Speaker 1:Excellent. Well, we, as Nick has said earlier, we are students of leadership. We don't. We consider ourselves leadership geeks, not gurus, and so we enjoy talking with you about all of the different elements of this episode. We think it was really a good one, so we super thank you for your time and we appreciate you.
Speaker 4:Well, thank you. Thank you for the inspiration and thank you for tying Ted Lasso to management is brilliant and I applaud you for doing so. Thank you so much.
Speaker 3:Thank you, thank you.
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