Lens of Leadership: A Ted Lasso Rewatch Podcast
Marnie Stockman and Nick Coniglio, authors of the book Lead it Like Lasso, dig into each episode of Ted Lasso with a lens of leadership. Each podcast starts with a fun quick-clip summary of the episode. Marnie and Nick tie together the leadership principles from Ted Lasso, their own business successes, thought leaders and everyday advice to help individuals level up as they lead themselves (and others). This is a great podcast for TedHeads! There are many other Ted Lasso podcasts out there - this is the "same but different."
Lens of Leadership: A Ted Lasso Rewatch Podcast
A Chat with Ted Lasso Producer - Chip Hamilton | S2 Special Edition
In this special edition of Lens of Leadership, Marnie Stockman and Nick Coniglio sit down with ChiP Hamilton, coordinating producer of Ted Lasso, and an industry veteran whose credits include Avengers: Endgame, Ghostbusters, and Little Women. Chip shares behind-the-scenes stories, leadership insights, and his personal journey from Boston to Hollywood.
🔥 Episode Highlights:
⚽ Behind the Scenes of Ted Lasso – What it takes to bring a leadership-driven show to life, from production challenges to team culture.
⚽ The Power of Belief – How the cast and crew embraced the Ted Lasso message before the world even knew what it would become.
⚽ Leadership in Action – Chip's role in ensuring everyone on set—from cast to crew—could be their best, and how that translates to leadership in any field.
⚽ Dare to Dream – Chip shares his journey, his love for soccer, and how he turned childhood passions into a career working with legends like Jason Sudeikis, Matt Damon, and Casey Affleck.
⚽ Lessons from Richmond – What makes Richmond (yes, the real one) so special, and why Ted Lasso will always have a home there.
💡 Key Takeaway:
Great leadership isn’t about titles—it’s about creating an environment where others can thrive. Whether on a Hollywood set, in a locker room, or in the workplace, the best leaders believe, encourage, and lift others up.
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Welcome to Lens of Leadership, typically our Ted Lasso Rewatch podcast, but today, oh, we have a special guest, Adam Chip Hamilton, coordinating producer. Come listen in.
Speaker 2:Hi again everyone. I'm Nick Coniglio.
Speaker 1:And I'm Marnie Stockman, and this is Lens of Leadership, a Ted Lasso Rewatch podcast. We're the authors of Lead it Like Lasso, a leadership book for life, your life.
Speaker 2:And today we have a very special edition of our podcast. We are so excited we're joined today by Chip Hamilton who, among other things, was a producer for Ted Lasso.
Speaker 1:So Chip has worked, yes, with Jason Sudeikis on a number of projects and has also been involved with some huge, well-known projects Avengers, Endgame, little Women, ghostbusters, among others, crazy fun list and I certainly can't do it justice. So I'm going to say, chip, what else would you like our listeners to know about you before we jump in?
Speaker 3:You know just that I've been incredibly blessed and lucky. You know the kind of a road that I've led down. I have some incredible mentors, colleagues, friends that have led me into doing, to be honest with you, what I love to do. I truly do, and I've always said, you know, the work is the work, and I love what I do. I always tell people I don't have to go to work, I get to go to work, and I think that's the key, and I've done, from day one, my very involved in anything really in production. It was just where I was meant to be, and the work is good, but the people that you meet along the way are even better. Again, not unlike yourself as well too. Marty, I know we've had a couple of different podcasts, so it's great to see you again. And, Nick, it's great to see your face as well too, and when you guys sent the invitation to be on this podcast, I want to jump at the chance. So thank you both for coming. Oh, thank you, that's awesome.
Speaker 2:We're excited to find out a little bit more. So our first question is so, marnie and I you know, almost for a living with our book we rewatched Ted Lasso and we noticed, as that screen fades to black on so many episodes, that it says Adam Chip Hamilton, coordinating producer. So for those of us like me who's not really that familiar with what goes on in producing, creating a TV series, what's that all about? What exactly was your role on Ted Lasso, chip?
Speaker 3:What's that all about? What exactly? What exactly was your role on Ted Lasso, jim? Yeah, yeah, you know it's it's you know it's it's very kind of a niche role, but I've been working with, with Jason for probably now going on on 11 years and I've known Brendan and Joe Kelly for you know a long time.
Speaker 3:You know as well, too well too, and when you're doing something again like a tv show, where you want to try to again capture the spirit of, you know, of message, of what we're trying to put out into the universe, it, it you want to make sure that that message and you want to make sure that instructions, you want to make sure the directions are carried out.
Speaker 3:You know the decision makers and the people that are in charge and hopefully going to be in charge of the show, and a lot of what I do is just to facilitate just whether it's just basically to make the lives easier, whether it be for cast, whether it be for crew, whether it be for you know, just about everybody that's involved in the workings of the show.
Speaker 3:Making sure that either. You know, kind of the goal is to be running as smooth as possible and again, like all productions, there are going to be things that come up just to make sure that you know those guys put out before they start, or even, like you know how do we put this as soon as possible, or even just bumps in the road and just kind of just making sure that you know a big proponent of you know what you even do, even behind the camera, is going to reflect with what you do in front of the camera. So making sure that people are in great head space and trying to be positive and provide a positive environment for the set and to push and drive people forward and to really just unleash the talent that all those folks have gotten again cast, who everybody that's involved has to be on this project and just make sure that they're able to spread their wings as wide as possible and to let everybody just fly and let their talent why they're there shine.
Speaker 1:Wow, they say you can't multitask, but I bet you can, oh yeah.
Speaker 3:That's my….
Speaker 1:So you're a professional multitasker is what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Exactly I was going to say there are women in my life, my mother including them. That will absolutely dispute that. But yes, professionally speaking, yes, I've been known to do quite a few tasks at the same time. Yes, that is probably correct.
Speaker 2:yeah, so I'm curious are there any particular fires that you can share with our audience that make for a good story?
Speaker 3:Anything, any particular fires that you can share with our audience that make for a good story. Yeah, anything, it's just, you know, even just the run-of-the-mill stuff, like I relate this to, you know, just to anybody. It's just like, hey, you know you have a meeting, we'll have like a safety meeting or like with us, like our call times, you know whatever, right from the get-go, like you know, are people up? You know, was anybody late? Why were they late? Was it? You know, is Transpo? You know there, are they at the right address? Is like anything. I mean, and this is all before we even got in the set. This is all before we even got in the set. Like, have we wiped the sleep out of our eyes yet? You know whatever. You know, and you know everybody, and okay, great, everybody's there. Did everybody get their breakfast? Did everybody get their breakfast?
Speaker 3:You know things like you know per diems, which are you know it's, you know a little bit of money that you're getting while you're on location, is that? Because a lot of times too, it's just like, if you know, if you're not sure of your surroundings, if you're in a different place. And again, I it was my first time when we started. Season one is my first time ever in England, let alone London. It's like, okay, let me get my bearings. Am I telling them the right place in which?
Speaker 3:I'm at Because I don't even you know what I mean, is it something like that?
Speaker 3:And coordinating, and then you know whether it be. If it's, you know, per diem is like the contracts and all that is everything you know mended, because if that stuff isn't, then it's like ah, like you know, somebody can feel a certain way. It's like do I feel welcome, do I feel? And, again, as I mentioned, this is all, before you even step foot on, say any words, get in the, even set foot in the hair and makeup chair that can affect how you're going to, how your day's going to be, and all that. So another thing that you know I try to and again I don't let it be clear is I don't personally, you know I try to and again I don't let it be clear as I don't personally, you know, handle all of these things individually. But I do have a hand in overseeing them and if something is awry, just kind of investigating it and and and kind of looking into it so that we can smooth it out, so that that person can again be as talented as as they are.
Speaker 3:Yes, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yes, also, I was a teacher and I get that right, If somebody's hungry or worried about money, like they can't be the best version, like period, that's right, they can't. That's how that rolls.
Speaker 3:You know what? I wish more people thought about that. But again, this is why we have podcasts like this and why we produce shows like we do, to kind of get that thinking, that rock and that boulder rolling that way you know what I mean yeah, that thought process.
Speaker 1:Wow. So what have you been doing since Ted Lasso aired?
Speaker 3:Well, you know, obviously, what have you been doing since Ted Lasso aired? Well, you know it's funny because it's been, you know, a hard time. You know, in our industry it really has. It's been a hard time in our industry, it really has. It's been some of the worst strikes that we've seen in the last 30-something years, both with DGAW, wga and all those folks again striking for different reasons and things like that. But the majority of the result is that a lot of folks around work for a very, very long time.
Speaker 3:And then you know, you can combine that with LA, specifically with, you know, the natural disasters that happen with the virus and all that, and that, combined with a lack of work, combined with, you know, strikes we've never seen. Plus, you know, an industry that is completely changing and it's kind of again a little bit like the Wild Wild West in the fact that nobody really knows how this streaming is going to, kind of you know, work and still kind of in what I would say infant stages, to like just kind of getting used to like what's going where, who's making what and all that. It's kind of a weird time and the result of that has just been a lot of folks kind of hurting, and then when you combine the lack of work with, like I said, la specifically with you know, the wildfires and all that and losing your home, it can be absolutely catastrophic to some folks. So that being said, I certainly have not been working as much as I would have liked, and I certainly have not been working as much as I would have liked, and I would even say that, you know, I'm not as good as some people, but definitely better than some, and it's been tough. It's been really, really tough.
Speaker 3:I was blessed though I can't remember if it was, don't discuss me but the May before that I worked on a movie with, you know, one of my heroes and somebody that I call a friend, you know, casey Affleck, which then led me to another work with another hero of mine, matt Damon, on this nice little comedy, also an Apple product, called Instigators, which was a whole lot of fun to work on, and then you know whether it be Casey or you know man.
Speaker 3:You know is that involved with with Ted Lasso? Are they able to go over, you know, if we weren't. You know, with iPads and laptops and different devices speaking out like you know, whether it be UEFA Cups or you know Champions League games. You know, while we're in between takes, you know of different teams that we follow. I think he's a big AS Roma fan and just kind of following that. He actually invited me over to his place a few times actually to watch the games, because we filmed a lot of that.
Speaker 3:We rotated both from shooting a little bit in Boston and then finishing up in the New York area, and Matt has a place in New York. So he invited me over to a couple places and then we would go to different restaurants and watch soccer. So, again, one of my favorite movies of all time is Good Will Hunting. So here I am with Casey on one side and looking at Matt. It's just one of those things. As I had told you, the work you do is incredible. But to be working with two guys like that that are just both just not only accomplished in what they do professionally, but also just just great guys, just great, great, good dudes. And for them to welcome me like they did, especially, you know, even a little bit extra, was just my seven year old self is just doing backflips. I just I can't, I can't. How did I get you? You know, type thing. So that was one of the projects I was I was super fortunate in being a part of.
Speaker 3:And then I did a little bit of work on a, a yacht rock documentary that was on HBO by a really good producer, a friend of mine, adam Gibbs. I think you can find that on HBO. I did a little bit of work there on that and I think they have another music documentary. I think they're doing another one as well with something called Yacht Rock, but there's a couple days a whole musical documentary series that they do. I was fortunate enough that they brought me on to just do a little bit of work on those and just kind of try to find work where you can.
Speaker 3:And again it's rough, it's pretty rough, but again I've had some experience under my belt. And then a friend of mine, frankie Shaw, asked me to work on a movie that we just filmed in Ireland called Four Kids. Walk Into a Bank was the working title, so I worked a little bit on that. I got back from that just a few weeks ago and so now just looking, you know, for whatever the next you know big thing is, and then you know, hopefully we'll, we'll set another train in motion, hopefully.
Speaker 1:We're all looking forward to it, yeah exactly.
Speaker 3:Exactly, exactly. We're all looking forward to it, exactly exactly.
Speaker 2:So that's a lot and we certainly appreciate the position we can outside looking in, we can see how rough it's been on the industry and we certainly hope for everybody, and you specifically during this call, that somehow gets better and improves quickly. But you mentioned soccer. Were you a fan of soccer before Ted Lasso?
Speaker 3:Yeah, there's three things I think just about anybody that's known me and again, since I've been like a again, as my mother puts it, knee high to a duck Ben, I'll tell you about. One is I love my friends and family. Two I love movies and television. And One is I love my friends and family. Two I love movies and television. And three is I love, love, love soccer, football.
Speaker 3:I've been playing soccer since I was like three years old, and even my mother will tell you is that, and she was probably more on the very, because I have a special needs sister who's a little bit older than I am. But when she would say, all right, you know those little kids and they catch a ball and say, all right, here you go, catch it and throw it back, catch it, and what I would do is I would actually let it hit my chest, it would crawl the floor and I would kick it back to her, and so she's, she's all freaking out, she's like, oh, no, like is for, you know, towson Youth Soccer Association and just the whole time of getting involved with that and just playing organized sports. You know, at first it was soccer, that was my first love, and then it was basketball track. You know they just couldn't sit still as a kid, as an active kid, but soccer was always always the number one that I just stuck with. And then you know it's not long until you get gaming systems.
Speaker 3:And then not know it's not long until you get gaming systems and then you're not only you're playing soccer, then you're coming from practice and you're playing like fifa games, you're playing soccer games, you're playing all that and you just keep on going and then you know you get. You know I was so into it that you know I would go down to bonzo nova or borders at the time when there was one uh and by. I'll never forget this. They were like at the time there were these are like ten dollar 442 magazines in a small section. You're always getting the latest and greatest, so I could keep up with the global game, not just like MLS and what was happening. But I was deep, deep, deep, deep, deep into it and I thought I was super, just a soccer nut, until a few years later I met a dude named Brendan Hunt and I was just like okay, I thought I knew a lot.
Speaker 3:I thought I was really really good about you know, knowing about the international game, you know whatever, and that guy is just a walking encyclopedia of just about any anything, let alone soccer.
Speaker 2:But yeah, yeah, that's awesome, that's awesome. And I'm curious if those 442 magazines talked about the false nine or the inverted pyramid or anything.
Speaker 3:All of it, but at the time you know you're struggling. As an American, I mean it's funny because, like my generation, it's like I think ESPN maybe just got the rights to show, I think, the quarterfinals. And after, when I was in high school or like, maybe, no, maybe like seventh, eighth grade and then going into high school, so it's okay, you get just get like little blips of like little blips of like international games. Then you're like, oh, you know what is this team? And then you want to do more. And then you find them on fifa and then you're like, okay, well, who plays for them? And then you, and then you get your core for you and you're like, oh, this is who it actually is. And you get the names of faces and you get statistics, you, and just go in there and then this is what I used to do, like in high school, is because nowadays you just buy like the year versions of it. I would actually I'm going to date myself to PlayStation one, where you had to save your games on memory cards.
Speaker 3:I would update the rosters manually by 442 magazine, or I'd go on the infant stages of, I think it was, a website called Planet Football, or just look at whatever the latest transfers were. I would manually, manually transfer the different players to the different squads, and so I would always have an updated version of that game I'm playing because I couldn't stand somebody scoring for a team that wasn't even playing for them anymore, so I was like this, is it?
Speaker 3:And then word got out that a couple of my friends were like hey, would you mind saving that to my memory card so that they could have the latest updated version until the new year came out, so we'd always have enough. So it was, needless to say, this is a poorly and long, limited way of saying yeah, I truly. The game of soccer has been in my heart for quite, quite, quite a long time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Love that and a great segue. So then you get to work on the show that you know. We don't have a lot of American shows that are about soccer and Ted Lasso obviously, uh, educated the world you know on, you know, for those that weren't familiar on, on kind of the whole system of English soccer. So a couple of a couple of questions about the series that we're just curious about, and some, some will, uh, some will be hard likely. But did you have a favorite episode?
Speaker 3:This is tough, this is really tough. And I got to say, and as far as even like favorite characters and favorite shows and things like this and I'm going to give you a disclaimer already that you're asking somebody like who their favorite child is.
Speaker 3:You're asking somebody like who their favorite child is, because it really you know characters and episodes and all that. It really is super tough. And for this podcast specifically, I really try and I was like, okay, narrow this down, narrow it down, and I just it's anything of like believing, of just like doing the impossible. When something, somebody gives you a task, anything in life or anything of you know, I'm again, I'm, I'm, I'm from Boston, massachusetts, I, you know, when we saw Tom Brady go from 28 to three and winning that Superbowl and then, you know, have been being affiliated, you know, with the, what we had to overcome to even put this show on the air, to then what it's done, and then for what it's done for me personally, and then you go back and you watch like a season one. We had no idea, yeah, the impact, the connection, the, just the overall outcome of what that show would then turn into. Yeah, it's beautiful and the things that even touch me, even now, as I was with my girlfriend, is is, I know if it's with Roy, again, it's in the end credits and they play out when Roy touches the belief.
Speaker 3:It's in the end of season two, when you know Isaac, the captain, you know, has to join the huddle and he kind of, you know, does Moses Red Park, and he just says, no hands in, we're going to touch the believe sign. Yeah, I can remember, and this is like these are the kind of things that you have to remember, even when Ted Lasso was a commercial. It's just the things that happen behind it is I think I got choked up even then and I think I even got choked up even then and I think, and again, that was great, that was season two, but it was just kind of like where it even all starts of a sign that simply just says belief and just the things I have to say about not only the cast and the crew of just believing and putting their faith into Jason Brendan, joe Kelly, you know Bill like, and what that has turned into and the impact that that's had and the messages that I still get of people. I mean we haven't aired an episode, a new episode, you know, for years now and we just looked I think it was number two on Apple still, and it, yeah, it's incredible.
Speaker 3:So when you say favorite episode and I get to see, you know a, phil Dunster, who's now well-known, I get to see a, you know a, brett Goldstein, I get to see a Hannah Waddington. I get to see a Nick Muhammad. I get to see, you know, I get to see James Lance, I get to see Tahib. I get to see all these people in season one where we had no idea.
Speaker 1:We knew we had.
Speaker 3:I think we always knew we had a good show and we were confident what we were going to put out. But if I were to tell you that any one of us knew what it was going to turn into, I think we'd be stretching a little bit there, you know except maybe for Jason, cause you know he always had I have bad spokes, and the rest of us did too, but yeah, my um.
Speaker 1:When, when Nick and I decided we were going to write Lead it Like Lasso, I said to my then 22-year-old daughter we're going to write this book and she's very good at marketing. She's like I don't think that's a good idea. It's a show, it's going to be short-lived, blah, blah, blah. And I said Little Miss, who just had college tuition paid for, I'm going to need you to do me this favor and watch the first three episodes. And I'm going to go for a walk and go to the grocery store. And when I came back I walked into the house and she's jumping around the room with her fist in the air saying Roy Kent, roy Kent he's here.
Speaker 1:He's there, he's everywhere. I said, now that we have that straight, we can chat about this book. She's like all right, I'm in, how can I help? I said wow. So for that reason the third episode is my favorite, because I pretty much double-dogged Daria to get past that one and not want to jump around singing Roy Kent songs and just knowing the feeling that the show brings you.
Speaker 3:It truly is. And even now, even the kick I get out of it now is that there are some folks out there that are either late to the party or have working lives or busy or whatever, and just haven't had the time to sit down and watch the show. And it's so funny because you're like, hey, just getting around to watching the show. Don't be mad at me, which I never am, don't be mad, you know, whatever. I'm just like, oh, you know. The only thing I ask is just let me know what you think.
Speaker 3:As you go through and I'm talking, whether it's, you know, even a few minutes to a few hours, to a few weeks, months, even a year let me be like, hey, listen, that was, you know, I, you know I really appreciated that. And then you know, you get, you know, different stories of how it's affected people and how you know it maybe inspires them to be other people, or maybe even have, you know, a little bit more patience to find out what other people are going through Coworkers, you know, just neighbors even and just the connection that something like that, you know, brings to the world is something that I certainly, speaking for myself, am damn proud of. I know probably the rest of my co-workers and cast crew are also super proud of that fact as well, too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, we often say that there's two types of people in the world, right, those people that love Ted Lasso and those who haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 2:Right and it's it's and it's so true. I mean, we, we, you know, we are nothing like you with an affiliation to the show at all, but we kind of have this book that relates a framework, a leadership framework, to the lessons that you guys brought forward in the show. And people kind of look to us and you know, and they ask us should we watch it? You know, or we say, why haven't you watched yet? And same thing, that people get back to us like I cannot believe I did not watch this sooner.
Speaker 1:It's it literally moves me To put Ted Lasso bully on our LinkedIn profile. It is.
Speaker 3:It's a wild, wild thing you know to think of and again, just again, just going back and looking at them and you know times are tough, you know kind of for everybody, and you know, with current events that you know things that are even happening, you know, in America is, you know, watching and going back and watching the old episodes just kind of reminds you of maybe and, as I would call you guys, professionals in the teachings of the Ted Lasso message is just going back and just trying to remind yourself and also to remind yourself that this was a show that took place at another dark know that we had not too far, you know, in the past, you know with with covid and uh, you know, and this kind of spirit that that you know kind of evolved from the show.
Speaker 3:You know with that, which was again a message of, of, of positivity, caring and kindness, so important, you know it's like I said, it's it said. Things like that are, I don't think, really ever obsolete and certainly I find me personally I can look back and watch them as a fan to remind even myself, to be like, yeah, stay the course, stay positive. You don't know around you who you're inspiring, who you're carrying who you're lifting to go on with their lives. So it's it's just nice to be a part of you know something like that and to have it appreciated as it is.
Speaker 2:That's awesome, just real quick question. So what did you think of Richmond?
Speaker 3:I mean I get sentimental just about anything that involves the show. So when you say you know Richmond even even it just I immediately you know so many things, whether it's the places or it's the beautiful Richmond Green. Have you guys been to London? I?
Speaker 2:went a couple of months ago and I mean I loved it. I just absolutely loved it. It's just absolutely loved it. It's so charming and you get the good. You get the feels, you get the Ted Lasso feels because of the show, Right, but the river I didn't really, as I was watching the show. You know there were some scenes with the river, but everything about it was awesome. I just love, from your perspective, being over there so much.
Speaker 3:I mean, was there any one particular thing that you just loved or is it just the whole thing? I I always say again, like you know it's, it's the, the places. And it's funny because you know I always love, you know, the richmond green, especially on a on a beautiful day in nice weather. It's just something so spectacular. You know what the what's because the weather is so varying. You know, in in england and lond in Richmond, specifically, when you catch like a beautiful day out, when, like, people are just like, oh, it's kind of like Boston.
Speaker 3:When the weather starts to get nice, I was like, oh, like everybody's like out and about and lovely and people are just spread out of, just like having just various picnics and just enjoying themselves out, and the different things again, the different establishments that welcomed us, or you know, just kind of was like, oh, you know who are these people, you know whatever. But then as we progressed, just really opened up, opened up and embraced us. And you know, places are just places if it's not for the people. And that's really what I remember the most. I remember again the prince's head, which again was the real crown and anchor Anytime we really needed to have anything, whether it be just drinks after work, or having staging equipment or people or whatever in there. It's just been so welcoming and great to us, the cricketers right next to us also as well. If we filled up the Prince's Head, we had to give down a break we go to. You know many writing sessions have been in the upstairs of cricketers that you know that we've had, you know, and they've just been, you know, super wonderful. And even you know, again, the shops that are in and around there.
Speaker 3:Just again, there's a what do you call it? But not a place that's right back it. There's a what do you call it, but not a place that's right back. It's called Chingo's, I think it's. It's right there that I know Jason was definitely a fan of. I definitely scarfed down a few empanadas myself there and it, it.
Speaker 3:It is just really hey, you know what are you guys doing. You know whatever and just kind of. You know at first you may be being at me, you know who are these people, as as just about anybody would. At first you may be being me, you know who, who are these people, as as just about anybody would, but then over time just been, you know, really appreciative of. You know, whether it be the foot traffic, the business, um, or even just kind of just the good old pride that you can just bring to an area, um, and it's just been, it's been been really cool. I you know, I remember freaking out the first time I I saw on like google maps, I think it was like the Ted Lasso neighborhood. I was like this is wild.
Speaker 1:That's a big deal right there. This is wild.
Speaker 3:yeah, you know what I mean. And again, it's the people that were there before us that will be there long after us, no doubt. I personally am super appreciative and had some really great experiences in and around Richmond. It's just beautiful.
Speaker 1:I love what you said. Places are just places if not for the people.
Speaker 2:I wrote that down because I like exactly the way you said it, so you'll see that again for sure.
Speaker 1:There you go so one of the things that that folks love to do is we made a little assessment in our book about what type of leadership character you are. So what type of leadership character Like which of those characters? I'm not going to say beard- Sure, I don't get the beard vibes from you, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I, you know, I it's, I don't, you know, I don't. Again, it's like, okay, well, which, as a father, which one of your kids are you the most like? This is like I hope that I, you know, have pieces, you know with all of them, because all of them have affected me certainly, and I would think that I would take, you know, a piece from them all, like I mean them all, a piece from them all. I mean them all. But there is something about trying to motivate a group to accomplish something that is either hard or indeed impossible, and then taking that and then accomplishing whatever it is when nobody thought you ever did have that, and that's something that, like I said, I'm from Boston, so you don't need to tell me about championships and Super Bowls and Stanley Cups and have that, and that's something that, like I said, I'm from Boston, so you don't need to tell me about. You know championships and Super Bowls, and you know, and Stanley Cups and all that. So you know, and we certainly have been blessed with those individuals around these parts, but and so, with that being said, is that I do, I resonate, you know, with Ted, and also, too, is that you don't have to be a perfect person in order to do that, as Ted had shown, is that he, you know, has the flaws, and sometimes it is those flaws that make you not only human but, you know, can elevate you to have an understanding and compassion about other people that also may have flaws, and how we all come together by, you know, in forgiving those that have either done us wrong or on our journey of all of us to become better people, because I'm a big proponent that if people can't help, they will. And I again a lot of this, and I'm sure you're gathering where I'm headed this year. I'm going to land the plane now, but I do have to say, Ted, I do now. But I do have to say Ted, I do I.
Speaker 3:It's just I see a lot of. You know the people that I've worked with, the creators. You know Joe, brennan, jason, and just being so proud of them, uh, about. You know the things we've accomplished the, the, the, um. You know the adversity that we had to again just getting our first few minutes on the air to. You know fighting for the show and you know to really uphold the message that they wanted people to embrace, much of which is to be kind to your neighbor and the power of positivity and just the triumphs that you don't even know that you can accomplish if you just show up and believe in yourself and around the people that you're doing it with. I certainly that's.
Speaker 3:If there's one thing that that show has taught me is that I truly, truly believe that anything can happen. And I'll even go back to even some of my high school buddies I've had the privilege of visiting some home here now and they're just like you mean to tell me that, because I did tell you that there are three things about me is friends and family, television and movies and soccer. And he's like you mean to tell me that you get to work and again have an accomplished career, you know in television, movie, business, but then produce a show that is about soccer. That then brings you to like just a hotspot of the sport. It's like you know a beautiful place of the, just a beautiful place of the sport.
Speaker 3:To then take that and make a hit show and then have it bring you to a stage where you watched your heroes that inspired you to do that exact thing. They're like this is this is what I think, this is, oh, and that's what it starts, and that's that's because that's where, that's why I'm a big proponent of, you know, visiting young folks and speaking and giving talks and speeches, and of just having something that you want to do, whether that be a dream, whether that be a task, whether that and just never giving up on that thing I'm a big proponent. That I say in my talks too, is that if you're a consistent and you're persistent and you have a love in your heart there isn't an element on this planet that can stop you.
Speaker 3:There isn't. There's just that just not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not again. You got to do it. You got to show up all the time. You got to do it consistently. Persistence is. You got to because your people are going to tell you, knowing that you can't do it. It's to push past them and say that you can and believe in yourself and then to have love in your heart to that you're doing this for the right reasons and that you're doing this for not only yourself, but you're doing this for other people. That and then also to in your pursuit of that dream, sending the elevator back down so you can lift others up, and that's that's. I can't think of A better message one of the many that I've been privileged to be a part of that the show can provide.
Speaker 2:So not only did you tell us that you were like Ted Lasso, you just showed us. That was very inspirational, that was moving, and I'm proud to have you on the show, just proud to be part of that show. That was awesome.
Speaker 3:I guess I have all the time in the world for people that show an enthusiasm for those things and the principles that I believe that the show kind of exudes and illustrates. And so, like I said, I have all the time in the world for you, all the time in the world for you, all the time in the world.
Speaker 2:So I know that, based on the previous responses, this is probably going to be another tough question to answer. But you know, we often hear so much people talk about the arc of the show and the arc of the individual characters Outside of Ted and Ted was fairly consistent the whole way through. So I'm not sure there was a huge arc there. But was there any one character that again, I know they're your children, but that you saw from beginning to end that you really felt like, yeah, I just love the way this character got from point A to point B, from the first episode to the last episode? Yep.
Speaker 3:Children gather around Children. I mean again I and you're going to again for the listeners. He's just not answered. He's got to make some For the listeners.
Speaker 3:It's like he's just not answering, he's got to make something, but again the people that come to mind, and again there's a progression of everything, because again you go from trying to get the show on the air to then having season one, being like what's the response? Like whatever, to then coming back season two and knowing that you know the show has, you know that you've done something that people can't appreciate, that it's won some awards or whatever, and you just see, even even the crew, because so often so times that because there's so much and I won't say the word, I'm not going to say content, I'm not, I'm not going to say that, but because there is so much material out in so many different places to watch it, which is great in some respects, but what does tend to happen is that, you know, people have lives and people can only focus their attention on certain things. You know whatever of plethora, and there was many, even even phenomenal pieces of show, series of movies. You know whatever that just kind of, you know, fall through the cracks and things like that too, and I've I've had the pros of working on some of them. You know, and and it's like man, that show was so good, like how come? You know what I mean. Just, there's not a lot of people can can say how it happens. I'm sure some that can, but not a lot of things. You, you know, actually get to that point. So when things do get to the end which which then sorry, which then leads to even working on that, whether you're a crew member or a cast member you know whatever it's like oh, is this pilot even going to go? Or like how much should I even care about this? You know whatever, like how much effort, you know whatever. But then you show up, you do your work, you do your best and with a little bit of luck, a lot of luck, a lot of luck and support, you do accomplish something. Yeah, and you do, and you are a part of something special.
Speaker 3:And I think, from the transition from season one to transition two and this is a little bit of a story inside of a story there was one place that I had to get back to after season one, after we had gotten the accolades, you know, and all that and things like that, as I could not wait to get back to the locker room. I couldn't wait because for me that was a hollowed ground. That's hollowed. That's a very special place for me, where the belief sign hangs. There's just an energy in that room that is very that I'm almost fiercely protective of, just because it was the place that I feel like the magic was it kind of crescendoed? That's where it kind of like having that many individuals in the room of crescendo. That's where it kind of it like having that many individuals in the room, like in there was a very, very, very special place. And I think once we got back there and we, when we kind of all, and we had our whole cast crew, whatever, going from season one to season two, people walked a little bit taller. I I I think this is just my personal opinion I think people walked a little taller.
Speaker 3:I think people, you start, you start to see confidence in people and I'm a big proponent of you know there are different ways to motivate people. You know whatever I'm a big person and being like you can do things, you can fly if you want to, because somewhere along the way you told yourself that you couldn't. But you can fly, no matter what you say, you can fly. And you started to see people fly. You started to see them gain that confidence. You started to see people be like you know what the whistle blew and we played the game and we won. Now there's the next game. Right, because now we're going to play the next game and I just started to see. But you know what? Let's stand on that. Let's stand on that, let's gain that confidence.
Speaker 3:Let's learn our lessons, that we, that we could have done better, but let's gain that confidence so I'm gonna say can I say everyone, can I say every like, like is, that is, that is that a? You know what I mean? Can I say everyone, I mean people no one's grading us.
Speaker 1:So, yes, you know what?
Speaker 3:I mean, like I just see, like again a guy like you know, like cola, who you know kind of came in. There was, like you know I think, on a suggestion of a friend of his, that he should go off to the soccer show to then not only, you know, being a cast member, but like, but then also to then becoming captain of that team, to then season two becoming one of the funniest things, I think you know.
Speaker 2:The haircutting scene, the barber the tipping, going all the way to season three, where he's delivering these almost like Shakespearean monologues.
Speaker 3:Yes, like you know, like it's just like all these things. Like you go, moheshim, who was basically, you know, essentially like an extra, you know from the, you know from season one, you know whatever. And we liked him, we liked his aura. He just brought a certain energy to it. He was definitely one of the best and better soccer players, if not the best soccer player we have on the squad, who then, you know, gets a few lines. You know, season season two, you know whatever.
Speaker 3:Then becomes a full-fledged cast member and then goes on to do other things. He became one of the leads in like a new Peacock show Like you're just like, this is wild. And again, ollie James, lance, you know, trent Crimson asked a question in the pilot. You know whatever, like, whatever. Then he's nominated for an like it's just like, nominated for all these awards. It's just like it's, you know, have gone from, you know, maybe being a PA to then, you know, or you know, a well-known PA, that we try to, you know, carry as many people as we can from season to season, just because we know how hard it is. And we try to, you know, reward, you know hard work with loyalty and things like that. When I first came up with the business I was like I'm never going to get. I was taught you know you're is when you get a call to work that next day.
Speaker 3:And so you know what better way can we, you know thank you, than you know to give your, you know opportunity to do more good stuff, you know, with us and for us and all that. And so I a long winded way of saying I cannot pick one, but I do know the effect that it had on, on, on.
Speaker 2:I want to say just about everybody that I, that I that I know of, yeah, you know, I would say we've asked that question a number of times and that was the best answer we've ever gotten. So, that was awesome.
Speaker 1:It also makes me think like that locker room clearly did smell like potential and now it smells like confidence and success. For the record, yeah, I sadly can quote a lot of Nick and I both can, but yeah, I love it. Early on you got me on that one.
Speaker 3:That's true, that's true.
Speaker 1:And you talked about the work of it right, with casting crew members, and so one of my favorite bits is anytime Ted introduced somebody and he would say like you've met a really cool person, and so I definitely felt that vibe when I got to meet you and you have a really cool job right. So how did that? How do you get one of those cool jobs? What was your story?
Speaker 3:Yeah. So I came up, you know, cutting my teeth here in Boston, just, I think a girl I was dating at the time asked, you know, if we wanted to be extras in a movie, and then that movie got me to, you know, a set which was a movie called what's your Number, with Anna Faris and Chris Evans before he was Captain America. It was filming in Boston and she actually got picked like weeks before I did. So I'm over here being like, oh yeah, I just didn't have what it took, you know, just flushed, you know, whatever. Yeah, yeah, it really just kind of changed everything. I'll tell you why.
Speaker 3:It's not that I picked, you know, to be an extra, but I found out that the, the, the, the crew was local. It wasn't. I always said in my heart that I had to move to New York to pursue something like this, and when I found out the crew was local and I found out you know how frequently they did work and that this was a real possibility for me as a career, I it was. I always equate this to. It was like, yes, and I guess excuse us sportsmen before, but it's like when the quarterback hands the ball off to a running back and there is just a sliver of light in the offensive line that that running back has to hit the hole, because it has to hit the hole as fast and as hard as he possibly or she possibly possibly can in order to break through that line. It's because that's what it takes in order to get through to this business, or even to even get your footing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and once I knew it was a possibility.
Speaker 3:The two most important days of your life are the day you were born and the day you figure out why. For me, it was like somebody hit me with a lightning bolt. I said this is a possibility that I can get to do this. It doesn't matter what I, but if I can somehow make this up, I will find a way to work my way up. You know, to do whatever it is, I just love being here. I love the energy. My favorite place, and still to this day in the world, is on a set. I love it, I just love it, and so I made that possibility broke through again.
Speaker 3:You know, networked, made some friends, you know, on that set. You know, networked, made some friends, you know, on that set. And this the key PA at the time, his name is Chad Goyette. That taught me a majority of everything I've ever known on a set. Handed, got my number, called me again to work, you know, just as a additional PA, just not knowing anything whatever, and again just showed up and kept obviously doing what I was supposed to do.
Speaker 3:He kept calling me, kept calling me. That guy was in his wedding a few years ago because it became that close and I just worked my way up as a PA as a PA and then I just kind of had an affinity with people, which then probably lends itself to more first team, which is more of your cast, assisting cast members, assisting producers, assisting directors, and going about it that route.
Speaker 3:And it wasn't long after that until I met a dude named Jason Sudeikis, and he's like I, like you. I kind of dig the work that you do. I might have an opportunity for you. And after I peeled myself off the ceiling, I got the opportunity. I went to work for him and my very first, you know, solo project with just him was a commercial for ted lab with the mbc commercial for ted lasso.
Speaker 2:So very cool yeah, yeah the story's written from there, I believe, two most important times yeah, yeah, oh, I have that one written down. Yeah Day you were born and the day you figure out why. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So in the world of really cool people, has anybody surprised you?
Speaker 3:Oh man, uh, as I like. I mean it's funny because when you're when you work on things, it's when you're working on things it would be. I mean the message is like dude, I can't, I don't want to be overly, but I think, I think Guadagno is going to be on our show. Like, I think I was like, and this again, three years old, yeah, that's got to be huge to you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, boom. Like, oh my gosh, you peel the rest of yourself off the ceiling.
Speaker 3:I mean, we would go to you know different games and I have like R9 Ronaldo sitting next to me, you know, and we're chatting about like NBA players. You know, as we're watching you know EPL games and I'm like not only did I have a picture, I had multiple pictures.
Speaker 3:I mean we chose you know he's Brazilian and he's more probably Portuguese, but, like for Spanish class, you have to choose a Spanish name. Mine was Ronaldo, and here I am all these years later and I'm chatting with him and I'm not talking like, hey, let's take a picture and go out. We're engaged in conversation. We are like whatever, we're hanging out whatever, and he was kind enough, you know, to sign a jersey, and we're hanging out whatever, and he was kind enough, you know, to sign a jersey and you know a Real Madrid jersey. And I was like I, it was just. Again.
Speaker 3:When you start to think of things to fruition, I like to and I've said this a couple times on I like to think of my life seven-year-old self and my 80-year-old self, and then the person you are in between and I just think that my like again, my seven year old self is just doing backwards. My 80 year old self be like wow, this does the people that you've met along the way and the person I we are all just high fiving each other and being like I can't, I can't, I can't believe that this is actually happening. You know, type thing. It's just, it's just wild, it's just, it's just. I think one of my favorite days is when I'm sure there are pictures and footage and all this, but we took the guys to an NFL game in it were just spectacular, which then we're going to cap that off. It's like, hey, let's meet Harry Kane at halftime, like OK, why not? Like it's just like again you know guys, like you know, matt Turner was there, lindsey Horan, I think, was there that day, chris Richards, and then we just all just had a ball watching again, again football in a traditional football stadium.
Speaker 3:And it was just like it's just one of the again, the moments of your life that you get to do and the path that you lead with. It's not what you're doing, it's the people that you're doing it with and how every one of them make you feel. And it was just like I'm just so grateful and blessed and lucky and thankful to have memories like that. And all the more reason because I know how I feel about those memories is that I said that there's, there's, there isn't a person that is listening to us right now, that can't do it for themselves. And when you get that and you go through those hard works, you achieve that, you believe in it, you overcome that fear and I've heard quite a Will Smith was saying this is that the best times and the best moments of your life are just on the other side of fear.
Speaker 3:You can tell fear, hold on a second. I got something to do and you can get past that and you can get on that level of persistence that it's not, that's not the heaven as a destination. It's, it's, it's the path, it's the journey. And I'm just again so, it's just so, blessed to have had and be able to talk about these moments with such vigor, because I have touched that, I have, I have done that, I've, I and I continue to do it, and that's the best part is that and all while I get to do that and I get to be self-aware enough to realize, and because I also would love to give those same experience in those same moments to other people, other people some of your listeners, those same experience in those same moments to other people, other people, some of your listeners yeah, man, well, I mean, we can't thank you enough for sharing at least some of that journey with us today.
Speaker 2:This is, this has been awesome, but we'd like to end with a standard question that we ask everybody, because we're such a big fan of the trick plays episode and Ted Lasso. We're curious if there is a trick play, you know, AKA a life hack that was called the chip Hamilton, what would it be?
Speaker 3:Um, that and uh, this is. This is a question that I am pondering and I this is a this is a really really, really, really tough one. I I've kind of asked you what would like it and I just think it's just Dare. Dare to dream, I think is is one of them, and not dream in the sense of like, oh't it be cool, wouldn't it be nice? Yeah, right, but I'm talking, and this is the dare part is there's, you know, there's a well-known axiom that that, again, if, if, if your dreams don't scare you, then they're not big enough, and there is a part of of of fear, like said that does encompass them.
Speaker 3:But lay down a solid plan, not of what would be okay in your life, but what do you want to do? What do you want to do? What do you? What is, what would be the ultimate thing? Be like I, live like you.
Speaker 3:If you did this thing, you can let go because you can guide me and you'd be like I'm, I'm good and don't walk, run, pursue that. Pursue that with every single fiber of your being. You have to spend six percent of your life working. You might as well do it doing something that you love. Do something and pursue that and tell something that you love. Do something and pursue that and tell, and then, when you're doing that, just the pursuit of you doing that will unlock and inspire others to do the same.
Speaker 3:How awesome, how awesome is it that we could live in a world where we that all of us want to help each other out in pursuing each other's dreams, and we do that and we say that's that's. That requires, as I referenced earlier, sending that elevator back down. I, I, I have been blessed enough to touch these beautiful moments in my life that I get to keep doing. I want to be able to help and inspire other people to get to those things as well too, and that that to me, that that is just the thing, that just that's the engine, that's the thing that just keeps motivating us. That's how armies are built, that's how you know let's, let's just, let's just all get something that we want to do and doggedly pursue that thing with everything that you have, because you will find people along the way that will, that will help you do that and along the way, too, you'll also inspire other people to do the same Love it.
Speaker 1:Thank you, and along the way, too, you'll also inspire other people to do the same. Awesome, love it.
Speaker 3:Thank you, thank you, Thank you yeah we're really grateful for having you.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much.
Speaker 3:Thank you, thank you, thank you for having me on and thanks for you know everybody and all the work that you do as far as promoting the show. Thanks for watching, thanks for your enthusiasm, you know, for the messages that we're proud of you know sharing with everybody else. This has been wonderful. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2:Absolutely Thanks, Jeff Thanks.
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