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The Rock-N-Roll Show Podcast - Episode 002 - Chandler Hutchison

March 26, 2024 ALEX GADD Season 1 Episode 2
The Rock-N-Roll Show Podcast - Episode 002 - Chandler Hutchison
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The Rock-N-Roll Show Podcast - Episode 002 - Chandler Hutchison
Mar 26, 2024 Season 1 Episode 2
ALEX GADD

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Episode 002 w/ Chandler Hutchison, in which we discuss how his father passed along a love of rock-n-roll, how his favorite band is heavily influenced by his childhood friend, and why a KISS concert is not always a KISS concert. Tune in!

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Episode 002 w/ Chandler Hutchison, in which we discuss how his father passed along a love of rock-n-roll, how his favorite band is heavily influenced by his childhood friend, and why a KISS concert is not always a KISS concert. Tune in!

Alex Gadd:

Welcome to the Rock-N-Roll Show Podcast. We're here to share the thrill of experiencing live music together with strangers and with friends, and to get to know our guests a little bit better through their concert experiences. I'm your host, Alex Gadd, and I found that the topics we're going to discuss today are good conversation starters when meeting new people, both personally and professionally. Today, we'll be talking with Chandler Hutchison. Chandler works at BookThinkers, a marketing firm for authors to help them reach more readers. Grow their audiences and supercharge their impact. Chandler is someone I've gotten to know as I've started my podcast journey. And so Chandler, thank you so much for joining us today. I am looking forward to talking about live music with you.

Chandler Hutchison:

Me too. I'm excited to be here. You know, it's one of those conversations that you can have with absolutely anyone. It's an awesome way to get to know people, talking music, topic talk, and shop. We've only known each other a week or two now, whatever it is. But it feels like we're friends. We've got to talk music for a good while the other day. So I'm excited for this conversation. I know everyone says that at the beginning of a podcast, but what's better than getting to talk music, live music artists you love? It's a great topic. I'm excited for the show.

Alex Gadd:

Oh, I'm so glad. I am too. Thanks. So let's start off by just framing your experience with live music. What kind of artist do you see when you go see live music? About how many concerts have you seen? Give us a picture of what kind of concert goer you are.

Chandler Hutchison:

Yeah, so I would guess that I've seen somewhere between 25 and 35 live shows. Uh, I can give a lot of credit to my dad. He got us, I'm one of four boys and he got us into music very young. Uh, he's a Rolling Stones guy, so no Beatles in my house. It was only Rolling Stones. He was, he had to pick that great divide and, you know, we started going to see some shows, uh, of bands that he had liked and we sort of gained interest in, you know, interest in, my brothers and I are all within five years of each other, so four of us in five years, and. You know, uh, we all went to see Dave Matthews Band, uh, when we were younger. U2 got to see Train and Maroon five. So my dad was great about sort of bridging the music that he loved, you know, and the classic rock. And moving into, you know, some of those jam bands like DMB in the nineties too, you know, a little bit of a softer style rock, you know, when it comes to like a train or a, or a, uh, maroon five, like we talked about the other week. What is rock and roll? Now that's a whole nother question.

Alex Gadd:

Right, and it's interesting when I started off thinking about this podcast, rock and roll is where I come from and I'm a classic rock guy, but. Rock and roll is everything. I, I use the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as my guide, and we've got Cher in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and we've got rappers in the hall, you know, Dr. Dre's in the Hall of Fame. And we've got soul musicians and we've got pop stars. And so, you know, rock and roll started off as just pop music in the fifties and sixties. That was pop music and the alternative was Bing Crosby and Frank Sinatra. And so Rock and Roll was the kids' music. And that's how I look at it. it doesn't have to be two guitars, bass, and drums. It doesn't have to be heavy. It just has to be popular music. And that, you know, our tastes really don't seem to have changed that much over the last 55 years, starting with the Beatles and The Stones. Um, which is really where I, you know, I understand that rock and roll started with Bill Haley and the Comets and Chuck Berry and Fats Domino and then Elvis. But for me it's really. Uh, the Beatles and Dylan, and then The Stones and everybody else that came out of that. So, yeah, uh, I, I'm in the same place. I have seen many concerts and, uh, you know, I'm a Rolling Stones guy too. I have a rolling, I have one tattoo on my body. It's the Rolling Stones logo,

Chandler Hutchison:

I

Alex Gadd:

so that's a good place to start.

Chandler Hutchison:

I, I'll throw one little rolling stone story out, which I've adopted from my dad. I don't know if any of my brothers have, but every single car my dad has bought his entire life. The first song that he gets there and plays is Start Me Up every single time he takes that first drive in a new car. So I actually bought a new Jeep back in August. First song I had to play, get the Stones on there and Start Me Up. It's the way to, it's the way to christen, uh, a new car in my family.

Alex Gadd:

Oh, I think it's great. I never thought about it, but that's ideal for a new car. I mean, I should play it every time I get in my car just to make sure my car starts.

Chandler Hutchison:

Absolutely, especially on a cold day out there. Make sure it's warming up the right way.

Alex Gadd:

That's right. It's funny, when I, when I was younger, I'm a huge Beatles and a Stones fan, so I don't follow the rules. I'm not, I can't do it with baseball teams. I have to like only one baseball team, but I love both the Stones and the Beatles, and every time I moved into a new place in college and after college, I would play Sergeant Peppers as soon as I set up my sound system, that was like the, okay, I'll break in the sound system now, so I get it. I But let's, let's jump in. What was your first concert? I mean, that, that's such a formative experience for me and for so many people that I've met. What, what was your first concert?

Chandler Hutchison:

Yeah, so I think that my first concert ever, I think was either the Dave Matthews band or Coldplay. I'm not sure which one it was, but either Dave Matthews or Coldplay at the Xfinity Center in Mansfield, Mass. Um,

Alex Gadd:

Oh,

Chandler Hutchison:

yeah, and, you know, seeing a lot of really great live shows there. Um, so I don't know whether it was Dave Matthews Band or Coldplay, but it was one of those two.

Alex Gadd:

Okay. How old were you about

Chandler Hutchison:

Middle school, uh, in middle school. sixth, seventh, eighth grade, 12, 13, 14 years old, something like that. Going with my family.

Alex Gadd:

So all three of your brothers, your dad and mom,

Chandler Hutchison:

Yep. Full, full car. Pack up the Suburban, uh, uh, get over to Xfinity. Yeah, really great experience and, and, you know, fun. Uh, I've loved Coldplay forever. Dave Matthews is, you know, a band my dad loves one of my brothers. They've been several times to see them. But Coldplay, I put on just absolutely an unbelievable show. You know, the song Yellow comes on and they put out a thousand yellow balloons that are, 10 times the size of my head out throughout the crowd. And really just a really amazing, amazing experience. Especially, everyone knows 10 more Coldplay songs than they think they do. If you had to ask them.

Alex Gadd:

I agree. I think, you know, I have found Coldplay to be really just talented. I don't love all their songs, but Chris Martin is just talented and the guys that he plays with are just, they've known each other forever apparently, and they are just a talented band. Uh, that's great. What's, do you have any memory, so I know that now I'm asking from the Coldplay concert, what's, do you have any clear memories.

Chandler Hutchison:

Yeah. The two clear memories that I'll always have are one, like I mentioned, the balloons. I mean, how cool is that? Especially whatever age I was, I'm just sitting there in absolute awe staring up and trying to hit'em up in that big lawn section. And uh, you know, it's just an absolute blast being there with the family. But the other one that I definitely distinctly remember from that show is that Chris Martin actually came up to the lawn while they were performing. And, security had a little round stage that he came out on. But the fact that, you know. At the time, late two thou, or late, uh, Early thousands. you know, 2008, let's call it something like that. I mean, they're one of the biggest bands in the world. Chris Martin's one of the single most successful artists on the planet, so I'll always remember that too. You know, getting to meet, well not meet Chris Martin, but getting to meet celebrities or people with any sort of fame, you realize that they're just people. And that was one of those humanizing moments with someone that I idolized where I'm like, how cool is that, that he's gonna come back out, pass 10,000 fans to get to the 10,000 in the back? I thought that was a really cool moment, and that's something that definitely stuck with me for, you know, an initial live show.

Alex Gadd:

Sure. And just for people who aren't aware in Mansfield, Massachusetts, it's in an outdoor amphitheater with a covered seated area and then a lawn system in there. Those amphitheaters exist all over the country. Uh, but that's one of the preeminent ones. I love that place. I've only been there once, but I loved it when I saw a show there.

Chandler Hutchison:

The best part is that every artist always comes out, hello Boston. And. you're thinking, well, we're in Mansfield. It's about 40 minutes outside about, but you know, we'll take it. We'll, we'll count it.

Alex Gadd:

Yeah. Look, when I, I live in the New York area and when people play in Jersey, they can be in Newark, they could be at East Rutherford, at the Meadowlands, they could be anywhere. And they say, Hey, New York!

Chandler Hutchison:

They could be in Stanford, Connecticut for all you know.

Alex Gadd:

Exactly. Hey, New York. yeah. That's a nice place to start. And from that, what band do you think you've seen the most?

Chandler Hutchison:

So you I.

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more than once?

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Yeah, so I've seen a couple bands more than once. Uh, but the one that I've seen by far the most is a friend of mine. His band FlipTurns. So, you know, not, not one of the big boys that I've mentioned, getting to see Coldplay and U2 and Train and all these cool groups. But, my friend Dylan, uh, he's had a band for probably, geez, eight, nine years now called FlipTurn. And I've seen them somewhere between 10 and 15 times, I'd imagine, ranging from venues where there was 40 people to now over 3000 people. So that's a really cool live music experience watching that band mature and develop and get to play different stages and, indoor, outdoor, different crowds, totally different vibes. I mean, I, I always say it about my friend Dylan, it's fun. The bigger, the bigger the stage you give him, the more he is up there dancing around and covering ground going crazy. So, really cool Progression for me, not only as a fan but as a friend to get to see him really blossom and expand his reach and doing, doing what they're doing. It's really, really impressive.

Alex Gadd:

It's interesting. Our mutual friend Luke turned me on to them when he told me about talking to you and I've been listening to them and then we talked about them last week and uh, they really are something. So just about FlipTurn, you've seen them progress not just in size of venue, but, and, and acumen on stage, but also their music must have changed and, and evolved over time. That must be pretty special to watch.

Chandler Hutchison:

A hundred percent, and Dylan wouldn't like me saying this, but the first single that they ever put out has been scrubbed from the Internet. They took it off YouTube, they took it off Spotify, they took it off everything because they just said, wow, the artists, we were, you know, at 18 years old, 17 years old versus 25, 26 is a world difference. So yeah, it's been a really amazing experience watching them grow, watching members of the band change and new members come in and watch them bring in management and sign with a label. They're signed to the same label as The Lumineers. That's the biggest band at, their current label. But watching everything they're doing from collaborating with new artists and how many hundreds of festivals that a small band has to go and, you know, be spot number 24 out of 27 at you don't realize those things un until someone starts telling you about it'cause it's something you don't think about. So I've, I've definitely watched them progress in a lot of ways, and I always say it about them that they do a lot of the little things that other bands don't. So that's been cool to watch them attack social media in a different way. Get playlists on Spotify of each band member's favorite music at that point in time. Getting all their tours posted a million ways. They have a street team that goes out and does, you know, some marketing for them. So watching it also the business side, watching them evolve on the business side and take it seriously and, uh, start to grow in that way. I've got to watch them grow in a million different ways. And, he's half a year older than me and I feel like a proud dad half the time. You know?

Alex Gadd:

I totally get it. Now, when you go to see them nowadays, do you actually listen or do you hang out backstage? How do you see a FlipTurn concert these days?

Chandler Hutchison:

So I, first, I'll say that I always love getting to pull up and say"I'm on the list." So that's the best part about going to a FlipTurn show is sometimes there's a side door, like a VIP list and you get to walk around that, you know, two blocks of people are wrapped around the corner, but always in the general crowd. Uh, until this last show that I went to actually, so. Dylan and FlipTurn hosted a music festival down in Gainesville, Florida called Playground, which is the name of one of their songs. And they sold about 2000 tickets and they had two stages going, which was really cool. So you know, one band up for 40 minutes, you turn around the next band starting right when this set finishes and we actually got staff and musician passes for that event. So we were able to sort of be on the side of the stage and consume it from backstage a little bit. But yeah, I've gotten to hang out in the green rooms after shows and getting to hang out side stage and backstage sort of deal. But, you know, I always love being in front of the show and consuming the concert. I think, I'm probably hitting as many lyrics as anyone there, you know, other than Dylan singing it. And, uh, I, I'm always there to jam out and have a good time. I'm, I'm as big of a fan as anyone, so I like being right in the crowd and getting, getting there dancing with everybody.

Alex Gadd:

That's great. And do you still listen to them just on your iPhone or in the car?

Chandler Hutchison:

Absolutely. Is it still good?

Alex Gadd:

That's the key. I've been friendly with a couple of bands in the past as well and I always found that the minute I lost interest in the music, I lost interest. Like I still be friends with'em, but then I didn't want to go see'em live anymore because going and just hanging out backstage gets very isolating. And then you're really not at a concert. You're, or even hanging out side stage, it's not the same thing. You gotta be out in the crowd. For me personally, and not everyone's that way. Some people like the Hangout, I like the music.

Chandler Hutchison:

I agree. I'm there for the music 100%. You know, we can hang out afterwards, but I don't need to hang out while that hour or 90 minute performance is going on. I want to be where the energy is. I wanna be where everyone's dancing and has their arms up and is singing every word. You know, that's, that's the energy I want to be around.

Alex Gadd:

right. Me too. Sharing the experience with your friend who's on stage.'cause if you're sitting backstage, they're having an experience that you're not even having, you're not even, you can't even tell'em how much you enjoyed it afterwards.

Chandler Hutchison:

And I can't make goofy face or try to make'em laugh. If I'm sitting backstage, I need the eye contact.

Alex Gadd:

True. I like it. So what is the most recent show you've seen?

Chandler Hutchison:

So the most recent show I've seen was this festival down in months ago. So I, I don't, I'll try not to belabor on that too much, but

Alex Gadd:

Oh no, that's okay.

Chandler Hutchison:

Really amazing event. A lot of local to the southeast artists, which was great from Atlanta and Texas and Alabama and South Carolina. And they had, I think maybe 12 or 13 artists at this playground festival. And some of them were bands that I had known. Some of them were. Bands that I had no idea about and became fans of from going and seeing the experience. And, that's, that's a really cool opportunity too for those people that haven't been to a music festival and it doesn't have to be a Lollapalooza or one of those absolutely crazy ones, but, you know, you go to a small time festival and you're gonna get an intimate experience with fans of bands that only have 7,000 followers on Instagram. And you're gonna make friends with people next to you and you're gonna get to, you know, be fans of a new band on stage. I knew one song by this band called Easy Honey, and I downloaded 15 more afterwards, you know, because you're in there getting that live experience. So that was the last show that I went to. It was so much fun. It was 2:00 PM to 11:00 PM just nonstop.

Alex Gadd:

Oh, that's perfect. Now is that something we can look forward to seeing again at the end of this year?

Chandler Hutchison:

I believe so. So they've done it two years in a row. I don't know what it's looking like, uh, for the start of next year, but I'd imagine that January or February of next year, unless they wanna do it when it's a little bit warmer out, it was a little, it was a little chilly, even though it was down in Gainesville. It was about 28 degrees when Dylan got on stage towards the end of the night. It was funny seeing the FlipTurn fans commenting, you know, it was worth the frostbite on the toes and that sort of thing on, on the social posts afterwards. But I, I do, they are planning on getting that festival going again next year.

Alex Gadd:

Good. I'd like to go check that out. Have you seen any concerts that have really gone long? So, festivals are one thing, and I've only been to a couple of festivals myself, but I have seen at least five concerts that have gone, I've been in the arena over four hours and seeing music for four hours. So, have you ever done, had you ever had an experience like that?

Chandler Hutchison:

Outside of the festivals, and, you know, I've been to Levitate, which is in, uh, Massachusetts and a couple different ones, but outside of festivals, I think the longest show that I ever saw was Zac Brown Band. And they only had one opener, which I was a little surprised by and about halfway through the show, I'd imagine that they were probably on stage for about three and a half hours, maybe three 15 to three and a half. And about halfway through the show, and this, I mean, you couldn't ask for a better concert experience. Here they say, we're gonna do an intermission. And I'm thinking, why'd you only have one opener if you have an intermission coming up? You know, I, I would've thought maybe you have someone do 20, someone do 40, and you guys come up. And then after a 15 minute intermission, Zac Brown comes back on stage with Steven Tyler at Fenway Park. So this is when Aerosmith is, isn't touring, you know, they're doing a Vegas residency and you know, I, in Fenway Park, Steven Tyler is a New England guy. Get to hear. Walk or Yeah, walk this way and dream on and all these Aerosmith classics. But I mean, what a great show to go to getting to see Stephen Tyler. But that's, that's probably the longest show I've been to. Somewhere between 3 15, 3 and a half hours, I

Alex Gadd:

Yeah, that's a long show. And, and it's funny, almost all of the long shows I've seen have had an intermission as well. I've seen a lot of, uh, I used to go see Phish a lot and I checked, and their New Year's shows every time that I saw them on New Year's, those were long shows. They'd started eight and end at one and there'd be two intermissions, but it was still a long, long show. And, uh, I saw Springsteen in 2016 and he did, uh, four straight hours and that's when he was 68 or something. 67, and he did four hours straight on stage the whole time. Pretty impressive. I really like Zac Brown. I saw Zac Brown three times. In the last 10 years and every time they had an intermission, they were absolutely rock solid. They do great covers. They sound incredible. Great stage show. Really they're an incredible live band.

Chandler Hutchison:

They put on quite the show. I've actually seen them three times as well, I've seen them at Fenway Park twice, and I've seen them over in Hartford once while I was going to school in Western Mass. They, they are unbelievable. The energy they bring is fantastic. The, the last album they put out, Jekyll and Hyde is a lot of non-country music. So they do some really cool covers. They bring people, they're, they're unbelievable performers. They do a great job.

Alex Gadd:

Truly talented. No doubt. What's the shortest concert you've ever seen?

Chandler Hutchison:

So I was thinking about this before we hopped on, and funny enough, I actually came to, it was sort of like a little impromptu show that we had pulled up to, but the band, Three Days Grace, the, the heavy rock band, they were performing just randomly in Patriot's Place at Gillette Stadium. You know, for those that don't know, Gillette Stadium, where the Patriots play is a whole complex shopping malls, hotels, there's 20 restaurants, you know, it goes

Alex Gadd:

Is that Worcester Mass? Foxborough, Massachusetts. Okay.

Chandler Hutchison:

Yeah, so we, I, I don't remember why I was going there. Maybe going to a movie with my friends, walk around the mall. I'm in high school at this point and z in front of the Patriots Pro Shop, Three Days Grace is performing, which I couldn't believe I loved them. We got them on in the basketball locker room and in the football locker room, all this stuff. So I got to just pull up and watch Three Days Grace for about 25 minutes, which I couldn't believe. I don't know why they were doing it. And then I went to the Patriots game the next day and their lead singer was singing the national anthem. So made a little more sense that they're in town and, on site, but an impromptu show had no idea they were performing, but got to watch them for probably 20, 25 minutes and loved every

Alex Gadd:

great. Had you ever seen them before, or have you ever seen them since?

Chandler Hutchison:

I haven't,

Alex Gadd:

All right. Well, you see them, at least it counts.

Chandler Hutchison:

it's funny. I'm gonna count that one as a concert. I'm gonna count that one.

Alex Gadd:

Totally. So of all the shows you've seen, do you have a favorite? Is there a way to say there's a favorite show?

Chandler Hutchison:

Uh, yeah. Um, I think so. I think that, hmm. This is tough. I think that, that Zac Brown show with Steven Tyler, I think that's definitely top two. And I'm not sure if I can decide to top two, but my other one would be Khalid. Khalid is my favorite artist. He's about my age. He, you know, dips into every genre possible. But I went a few years ago at the TD Garden in Boston, and I'd say that was my, my favorite concert. I think I'm a little biased. I, you know, he is my favorite artist. I've been listening to him for years, all the formative years through college and everything, relating a lot to his music. And that show was so much fun. And there's, you know, two or three songs, which I love by him, which I didn't think he would play because, you're in such a big venue. Uh, I don't know how many seats are in the garden. 20,000, something like

Alex Gadd:

under, I think it's 19,000 five. Yeah.

Chandler Hutchison:

What he did is he sent all of his dancers and musicians backstage, just brought a stool out and sung acoustic for three songs. And I mean, just absolutely beautiful. I'm sitting there with my ex-girlfriend and I'm wishing everyone in the arena would stop singing. I'm like, Hey, Khalid's up there doing his thing acoustic. You guys gotta, you guys gotta quiet down. But, you know, just from those two or three songs, I think that that's probably my favorite concert experience because I wasn't expecting to hear those couple tracks and I was so excited that I got to. But also, you know, for a favorite singer who I'm such a fan of, he can sing anything. He has my favorite voice. If I could swap into anyone's voice, I, I would love to be able to sing like him. But him breaking down and doing, you know, the total acapella by himself on stage, that made that concert experience really, really special for me.

Alex Gadd:

that sounds great. And seeing your favorite artist usually

Chandler Hutchison:

Yeah.

Alex Gadd:

pays off in a big way, so that's great. I have to listen to more of his music. My daughter is really into him, and I never really, it's just not my style of music. And as I've been doing this, I've been branching out as people have been throwing recommendations my way. So that's your favorite concert. Did you ever go to a concert and walk out and say, this sucked. This just disappointing?

Chandler Hutchison:

If I ever had that disappointing of a concert? You know, there was one when I was a kid, which I knew was gonna be a bad concert. It was called the KISS Concert, which was, you know, KISS 1 0 8 up in, uh, new England with a lot of just really bad artists. So I would say, I'd say that probably,'cause I've never, I've never, you know, gone to a show expecting it to be bad. I wouldn't buy tickets. I've been to a couple country concerts with friends where I'm not there for me, where I don't care about the music. I'm just there having a good time. So a couple of those would come to mind, like seeing Toby Keith, you know, uh, rest in

Alex Gadd:

RIP, Toby Keithth just passed away two weeks ago.

Chandler Hutchison:

Rest in peace, Toby Keith. But you know, I had no interest in being there and it was a fun show, but you know, you can only, you can only enjoy hearing Red Solo Cup so many times while you're there. But I, I'll say a bad experience for someone else at a show when I'm at this KISS concert, KISS108, it's a eight hour festival and we're like an hour and a half in just hanging out and there's a couple sitting few rows in front of us fully decked out like Gene Simmons thinking they're going to be seeing Kiss and Alex, they are at a kid's show. It's all high schoolers there in middle schoolers. It's, it's Chris Brown and it's Lil' Wayne and it's all these rappers and R&B artists. And I can't think of some of the bad pop music from back in the day, but I, you know, a bad concert experience would be those two, uh, those two adults thinking that they're gonna see Gene Simmons singing.

Alex Gadd:

Yeah. You know, that may be the best example of a disappointment at a concert of all time. Not happening to you, thankfully, but that's a good example. Oof.

Chandler Hutchison:

At at 14 or 15. I had secondhand disappointment for a week after that for them. They ended up getting and leaving, you know, after. After a couple more sets

Alex Gadd:

I can only imagine.

Chandler Hutchison:

My

Alex Gadd:

That is really funny'cause when you first said the KISS concert, I was like, the way you said that doesn't sound like it's a KISS concert.

Chandler Hutchison:

Detroit Rock City there, none.

Alex Gadd:

that's too bad. You know what's funny, they, uh, we'll probably talk about this later, but KISS was my first band, like the first band that I ever fell in love with I was a kid. They were just coming out and so their ascension matched up with my awareness of pop music and rock music and I just was a huge KISS fan. So I, I understand those two people's disappointment. If they didn't.

Chandler Hutchison:

Well. I was gonna say a quick side note on kiss. I'm not sure if you know this being such a big fan. I didn't know anything about Gene Simmons, but I recently listened to him. Uh, his son is a comedian, so he was on a comics podcast that I love with his son just talking and I had no

Alex Gadd:

Nick, right? His name's Nick.

Chandler Hutchison:

Yes, yes. I had no idea. Gene Simmons never touched a single drug in his entire life. No alcohol, nothing in all those crazy years of touring, which absolutely blew me away. And the podcast hosts were saying the same thing. They're like, how could you be the front man for Kiss and be, have this crazy persona and go out and party and do all these things? And he said, you know, I was just able to stay away from it. And that, uh, that gave me a whole level of respect for Gene Simmons that I never would've known about.

Alex Gadd:

Yeah, he's pretty, a unique guy. There's no doubt. He's from, you know, he was born in Israel and his name is Chaim

Chandler Hutchison:

Wow.

Alex Gadd:

to, yeah, he moved his folks, moved him to Queens, New York when he was, I don't know, five(actually eight sorry Gene!), I'm gonna say really young. And he adopted. His stage name based on a female actress named Jean Simmons. Uh, but J-E-A-N was this woman's name and she was pretty famous, but not, not Marilyn Monroe famous, not, you know, Bridget Bardot famous. So he chose Gene Simmons and, fantastic transition from Chaim Witz I think his name was like a real Eastern European Jewish name to, Gene Simmons. And now when you say Gene Simmons, all you think of is the tongue and the fire and the makeup, and.

Chandler Hutchison:

Eight inch boots and everything else.

Alex Gadd:

Yeah, pretty amazing transition. So you've mentioned seeing Steven Tyler surprise you at the Zac Brown Show. Have you had any other experiences like that? I find that those are some of the most memorable things that in my concert going experience. Have you had any other experiences like that? Have you seen any other shows like that?

Chandler Hutchison:

So unfortunately none of that level, you know, there's been artists brought up at other shows that I can't quite recall or, you know, maybe some of the openers coming out and performing with the main band or vice versa. But Stephen Tyler's the only one where I've sort of had that, actual shock and awe reaction where my jaw drops and I'm looking at my friends like, oh my gosh, we're about to get to see Steven Tyler perform. Are you kidding me? I'm sitting there screaming, Walk This Way, you know, and then they go right into it. I'm, you know, best, best 25 minutes of the concert without a doubt. But no, unfortunately I haven't, had any other like, really cool guest appearances at any shows or cool features like that.

Alex Gadd:

I hope that that still happens in the post covid world. I don't know, but it used to happen a lot in my experience. Well, I hope you get to see that again. Also, Zac Brown Band is such a good cover band. They're so talented that they can play. I mean, in their regular set, they played, uh, Enter Sandman by Metallica and they played Guns N Roses songs, and they played all kinds of different cover songs, and all kinds of things. So I imagine Aerosmith was right up their alley. Very talented live band.

Chandler Hutchison:

Absolutely. Zac Brown is so amazing, you know, definitely, like I said, one of my couple favorite concerts and they've toured with so many people. They touch so many different genres of music, and Zac can sing in any style and really cover any song well, which is why that last album, Jekyll and Hyde was so cool. He is, you know, doing heavy rock. He does like a love ballad with Sara Bareilles and you're like, wow, this guy's just doing everything.

Alex Gadd:

Yeah, it was great. I, that was my favorite Zac Brown album of all for sure. Alright, I wanna, I wanna turn to the music venues that we've talked about, and, you know, that to me is a big determinant, not the maj, the main determinant, but certainly an important factor in, in a good show is, is the music venue. So have, do you have a favorite music venue?

Chandler Hutchison:

Do I have a favorite music venue? You know, uh, I've seen most shows that I've seen locally, at all of the different stadiums and venues around here. But I would say a couple of the smaller ones in Boston that, uh, you know, are sort of like little holes in the wall that you gotta be tapped into the live music scene to know. I'd say that those are probably my favorite venues. You know, being at Gillette Stadium with 65,000 people is cool. But when you go to, Brighton Music Hall in Allston, Massachusetts, and you go see a show where they're only selling 250, 300 tickets, those are my favorite venues because no matter where you are, you have one of the best seats in the house. You're, you can stand off to the side and drink your beer and dance and enjoy it without, you know, getting caught in anything. So I would say that those, those are my favorite kind of venues. I'd say Brighton Musical Hall's, one of them, uh, Roadrunner is a newer one in Boston that's about 3000 people, which is awesome. House of Blues in Boston is, you know, a historic venue. And my buddy Dylan's actually getting to play it towards the end of the mar end of March, headlining it there, and so excited for that. It's, it's right on the same street as Fenway Park. It's in a really cool part of Boston. And House of Blues is one of those venues that every artist dreams of playing when they come to Boston. It's sort of one of those stepping stones. So I'd say that a couple of those smaller venues are my favorite.

Alex Gadd:

Yeah, they've really built up, like on Lansdowne Street and all around Fenway, they've really built up the live music. The J. Geils band started, and Aerosmith both started in I can't remember what it's called, but there was a place right on Lansdown Street, behind Fenway Park that all those bands used to play in, in the seventies when they were nobody. J. Geils and, and Aerosmith are the two that come to mind for me, but that neighborhood seems to have really upleveled and classed up the whole joint, and that's great. I'd love to come up there and see a show up there.

Chandler Hutchison:

Yeah, absolutely. And this is a total side note. What is that most famous J. Geils band song? What is that?

Alex Gadd:

Centerfold is the most famous

Chandler Hutchison:

So Centerfold. So one of my brothers, my brother Nick, one of his best friends, his mom was a backup dancer in that video. So I think of it, every time I hear it, you can pick her out, you know, the two seconds she's in it or whatever, just dancing in the background. But anytime I hear that song or any J. Geils song, I always think, I was like, oh

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Alex Gadd:

That's great. Yeah. They're a funny band, right? Uh, they, they just disappeared. They had their biggest hit, Centerfold was one of the top records of 1982. Went on a tour, broke up, that was the end. that is

Chandler Hutchison:

sad.

Alex Gadd:

They had been a band for 15 years already. As soon as they had a monster hit, they broke up.

Chandler Hutchison:

Money always muddles it up. I imagine not, you know, outside looking in.

Alex Gadd:

Or egos; either money or egos. Do you have a concert venue you've been to and you're just thought, I never want to go back to that place? It actually negatively affected your ability to enjoy the music?

Chandler Hutchison:

Negatively affected my ability to enjoy the music. I don't think so. I don't think that there's been a venue, there's been a bad seat or two, you know, uh, behind a, behind a stanchion or a pole or, you know, something obstructing the view. But I don't think that there's been a venue where, you know, I've, I've turned my nose up at it and said, this isn't a place I'm gonna be. And I think that's part of, too, you know, being a little bit selective in my live music, I'm not going to shows where I don't know the bands or have researched them or am interested in it. So I think with that sort of quality control in place, it would, it would take a lot for a venue to dissuade me from, from wanting to come back.

Alex Gadd:

You know, usually for me it's bad sound. You know,

Chandler Hutchison:

Hmm.

Alex Gadd:

like I've been in, in places that just have, the sound is so overwhelmingly loud that even if it looks good, it's unbearable to listen to. And if the, if the band can't control it because it's just overdone, it's tough. It's tough to enjoy a show.

Chandler Hutchison:

There has been some concerts where that's happened, and you know, you get through it for the first 45 minutes and then at some point you're just like, I need to get outta here. And

Alex Gadd:

And I love loud music. Don't get me wrong. I've been in bands half my life and I love playing loud music, but there's a level of loud that it's just punishing, that's usually what turns me off to a venue. What venue have you seen the most shows then, do you think?

Chandler Hutchison:

Probably the Xfinity Center in, in Mansfield. And like, like you had mentioned, you know, about half under this overhang, actual seats. And then the rest is lawns. People bring seats, towels, blankets, having a good time out there. But yeah, if I've seen, you know, somewhere around 30 shows, I'd imagine about half have been at Xfinity. That's, you know, only 25 minutes from where I live. That's sort of that middle area that most, you know, good performing artists are in, where they can't sell out a TD Garden, a Fenway Park or a Gillette, but you can come and sell, you know, 18,000 tickets or 15,000 tickets at Xfinity no problem. So I've, uh, I've had a lot of really great experiences over at Xfinity.

Alex Gadd:

There's definitely a whole series of bands in today's world, especially today's music world that just tour those, those amphitheaters in the summer and they go out in the summer, they tour all the amphitheaters like that across the country and then they spend five months or six months at home and then they do it again. And they're mostly legacy acts, but they're also, as you mentioned, up and coming bands that aren't ready to sell out the Garden yet, or not, certainly not ready to sell out Fenway Park or Gillette Stadium. So those are all stepping stones and it is, I, it's more fun for me to watch shows there where it's an up and coming act and they're moving out of the clubs, but they're not ready to go to a full size arena yet. And so they do the amphitheaters. But I also love all the legacy acts'cause they're the bands from my childhood. So, I like seeing them and they really are dedicated to that amphitheater circuit. I like those shows too. I like, and they have'em here. They have one on Long Island. They have one in New Jersey. They have'em across the country. I mean, Alpine Valley, uh, in Wisconsin is one of the famous ones. There's some really great ones around the country. And it, we've already talked about it, but is there a type of show and I, I've kind of categorized shows, we've talked about it today, clubs, um, arenas, stadiums. Festivals, the amphitheaters and the clubs. Is there something that you do or don't like? Especially like I have a hard time at festivals. For me personally, festivals is not my thing'cause it's not organized well. And I may be here and I have a good seat for the mid, you know, middle of the day show. But then I miss my chance to get up front for one of the big bands later. But I wanna see all the bands. I don't want to just wait all day in the front, you know, for the, for the headliner. So is there anything for you, I mean, clubs are certainly fun and you mentioned amphitheaters. Is there anything you don't like? Any type of show you don't like?

Chandler Hutchison:

Yeah, the only thing I'd say there is when the show gets too big, you know, uh, being at Gillette Stadium with 65,000 people in there, I've also seen Kenny Chesney at the Mercedes-Benz Superdome in Atlanta, where the Atlanta Falcons play, and that's 80,000 people. And that's not how live music is supposed to be consumed. You know, um, I'm, I'm not the authority on that. I shouldn't go with the absolute there, but I don't think, in front of 80,000 people where, I mean, how many 50,000 or watching the screens 60,000 are watching the screens rather than Kenny, because you're too far away, you know, you're not actually getting to hear the music it's coming from behind you or to the sides and the. Thousands of speakers throughout the stadium. So a, as I mentioned, I love the smaller venues, the clubs, and, uh, all those smaller music venues. But I don't think, you know, at a certain point I think you lose intimacy so quickly and that connection with the artists and, I'm not trying to have an intimate connection with Kenny Chesney or Luke Bryan, you know, with 65,000 other people. But it would be nice if I could watch the show not on a, 200 foot screen. So I, I think, I think that's the point when I'm not as much a fan of it. I'm, I'm also such a massive comedy fan. I love seeing standup. I go to a lot of standup shows and I recently saw my first arena show and I loved it. I laughed the entire time. It was absolutely amazing. But afterwards I was thinking, well, you know, I'm used to seeing a show with 300 people in the room, or a thousand and there was 8,000 other people in this room. Little bit of a different vibe when you're trying to laugh and, you know, get all the little parts of a joke and music's not quite that way, but I think the bigger you get, you lose a lot of those little things.

Alex Gadd:

Who is the comedy show that played in an arena? Which comedian?

Chandler Hutchison:

Yeah. So this was Theo Von over in Amherst, so I, saw him at the Mullins Arena, which is where UMass Amherst, their basketball team plays.

Alex Gadd:

right, right. My daughter went to UMass Amherst. So I know where it is. Um, yeah, it's funny, the, the stadiums unfortunately, are really where you can, the only place you can see a massive successful artist, but they are, they're if, unless you have incredible seats, which cost an arm and a leg, and you're sitting in the back of the arena, the worst part for me is that. The sound travels slower than the visuals because sound travels slower than light. And so you see the artist raise their hand, or the drummer hit the snare and then half a beat later you hear that hit, know, it's super weird. I, that always threw me off. And of course you only see it on the, on the screen, it's just not perfect.

Chandler Hutchison:

Exactly,

Alex Gadd:

I,

Chandler Hutchison:

there is no perfect system at that size of a show. You know, just too many complications, which is why there's a thousand different light packages and why there's fireworks going off because they need to fill that space because they're trying to distract you. With a million of those things going on, Taylor Swift, I've never seen her perform, but there's fireworks going off at her shows and smoke bombs and there's, you know, lights and they're doing all this crazy stuff. You have to add all of that in when you're one person on a stage in front of 70,000 people. There's a lot, a lot more that goes into it.

Alex Gadd:

Yeah, let me tell you, she's not one person on the stage. are like 30 other people the stage with I her somewhere around 2016. And uh, it was quite a show. And then apparently she just was on tour last year with an even bigger show. So she knows how to do it, but it is, it, it's not intimate. There's certainly nothing intimate about it, but yeah, it's a trade off. And so it is kind of fun to be in a club with a band you know, that hasn't really broken yet, like your friend's band FlipTurn, and, uh, watch them ascend and watch them mature. And you hope that they get successful enough, they can play arenas. But maybe you kind of hope they don't get so successful they're playing football stadiums and you're not gonna be able to have as much fun as you used to have.

Chandler Hutchison:

well luckily if I stay in Dylan's good graces, I'll get those, uh, VIP tickets and I be right up front or I can be on side stage. So

Alex Gadd:

Right. There you go. Then you won't care. Football stadium away. That's great. I ask a couple of questions of people about how their enjoyment of live music translates with music media. So do you have a favorite live recording of a song, A favorite live record, a live album, anything like that?

Chandler Hutchison:

That is a fantastic question. I am definitely a person that prefers studio versions most of the time, but there are, there are some specific ones. Uh, I, I don't know, you know, whether they're Spotify sessions, you know who, you know, what live recording it was, but Chris Cornell has a couple of my favorite ones ever. I mean, his cover of nothing compares to you and his cover of Billy Jean and, uh, Nearly Forgot My Broken Heart. I think those are some of Oh, that's great one. That one was great. Yeah. And I mean, another, another rest in peace with Chris Cornell. He has one of my favorite voices of all time. I mean, everything he did; Soundgarden and Audioslave, the solo stuff just fantastic. But I'd say that a couple of those are probably my favorite live tracks. Uh, Maroon 5 put out a really awesome live album too. And there's, there's a million. There's definitely a million. Uh, there's all the, all the famous and great Red Rocks recordings, you know what I mean? There's, there's some really cool ones out there. What about you?

Alex Gadd:

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first heard U2. For me, my favorite live recording ever is Cream. So dating me a little bit. It's a Cream recording from 1968, I'm gonna guess, of them doing Robert Johnson's Crossroad Blues. And, and called it Crossroads, a very high energy version with Clapton. Really... Clapton sang it. Clapton played the lead. It was blistering super exciting. Every time I listened to it, I get the chills. So that's one. And the other one is from, uh, uh, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame did two concerts, two nights in a row at Madison Square Garden to celebrate their 25th anniversary. This is years ago now, sadly. And, U2 was the headliner the first night, and Springsteen was the headliner the second night, but the first night, U2 and, all the main artists brought out other Hall of Fame artists. And so U2 during their set brought out Bruce and my favorite song of all time is, I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For by U2. And Bruce sang it with them. And so he and Bono traded lines. And every time I listen to it, I get chills. Like it is the most emotional thing. It's so great in my mind for me. And I know everyone has their own, you know, it's, that's totally personal. But to ask what my favorite live recording is, it's probably that.

Chandler Hutchison:

Well, I know what I'm listening to right after this.

Alex Gadd:

You can watch the video of it. It's even better if you watch the video of it.

Chandler Hutchison:

I will, U2 is one of my dad's favorite bands. I've had the chance to see them live. You know, when I was, I much younger as well, and I love so much of their music and what they stand for, so I can only imagine seeing Bono and Bruce up there together. I'm, I'm excited to check that out.

Alex Gadd:

it's, it's really something. And he's, I mean, I'm a, Bruce is my favorite artist by a long shot and the person I've seen the most. And um, and he's sung, he's really apparently pretty friendly with Bono and he's sung with them many times before. And so by the time they got to that show, they already had this act kind of well down as they're trading off verses and singing complimentary. Like at the end you'll hear Bono sings a line from a Bruce song while Bruce is singing the outro to, I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For. And it perfectly weaves together and it's exceptional. So that to me is the epitome of a surprise guest coming out and suiting the band that's playing and doing something that transcends the song, which is already a great song and, and brings it to another level. And you don't even have to have been in the arena to feel that, level of enthusiasm and excitement. So I hope you find it as enjoyable, or at least even half as enjoyable as I did.

Chandler Hutchison:

Well, I'll definitely let you know. I'll definitely check it out tonight. I mean, you gotta be itching to get out to that, Sphere out in Vegas then, huh?

Alex Gadd:

You know, no, I, that's a lot for me. I to travel all the way to Vegas just to get crammed into that thing, and that looks overwhelming to me. I maybe it's the greatest concert experience ever. I'm not. ready. My, it's funny, my stepbrother and nephew went out and saw it right when it started and they raved about it. I think they're almost done in their run. I think they finish in a couple weeks. It looks amazing. The videos I've seen look just a lot. It's sensory overload.

Chandler Hutchison:

I'm with you. I think it would be a very overwhelming experience. You know, nothing I would ever set out to go do, but if I happened to be in Vegas and you know, could go see a show, I'd love to, but definitely not, not something I'd set aside a week for, you know, to go make happen.

Alex Gadd:

I mean, I like, I like going to Vegas, but I like going, there are other things I would do and I don't know that I have enough money to justify making the bank to see it, but I would love to see it. If, if everything was equal, I would definitely go see it.

Chandler Hutchison:

Those Adele and U2 tickets out in Vegas are pretty darn expensive.

Alex Gadd:

Yeah, exactly. I go to see the Beatles, Cirque du Soleil show when I'm out there. I see it every time I'm out there. And that's fantastic.

Chandler Hutchison:

cool.

Alex Gadd:

A couple questions. These are my bucket list questions. So are there any concert venues that you haven't been to yet but you really want to go to?

Chandler Hutchison:

Yeah, number one, just right off the top of my head is Red Rocks. I mean, talk about the coolest music venue possible. And again, my friend Dylan with FlipTurn, they were opening up for a few different bands last year. One of them was Mount Joy, who I'm a massive fan of as well, hoping to see them this summer. And Mount Joy, uh, brought them out for two nights, sold out at Red Rocks, so my buddy got to play two sold out nights in front of the 10,000 people at Red Rocks. And, that just, I think is the coolest outdoor venue that I've seen. So I, I'm dying to go to a show at Red Rocks. I would love to be there. That's my dream venue, to catch a show at.

Alex Gadd:

By the way, mine too. That and the Ryman Auditorium in Nashville are the two places that I haven't been to that I'm dying to go to now. Did your buddy tell you what it was like playing there?

Chandler Hutchison:

Uh, yeah, I mean, just all the adjectives you could imagine. You know, he just said

Alex Gadd:

It wasn't, it wasn't like, artists don't like playing there'cause it's cold and doesn't, they don't like it'cause the sound sucks or anything. It's all good.

Chandler Hutchison:

Yeah, he didn't share any of that with me when we had chatted about it a couple times, you know, he had gotten to go the day before and earlier to set up and he's just sitting, sending pictures out on those massive steps, really just sort of in disbelief, you know, uh, that he's getting that opportunity. And also that was the biggest crowd that they had played for as well. I think the capacity's right under 10,000 2 sold out, shows back to back and, you know, people aren't there for FlipTurn. They're there for Mount Joy, but still, once the lights go off, you know, everyone's locked into you. So really, really magical experience. I mean, he just had a million different superlatives to say about it. He had nothing but amazing things. And of course, the, the, end of the conversation is,"and at some point we gotta get you there." We're, we're working towards, when are you gonna be selling it out? So.

Alex Gadd:

Right. Right. Exactly. And I'm glad to hear that because I always worry that the places I love as a fan, the artists hate. I'm glad to hear that's not one of'em.'cause I'm really dying to get out there. Now, if you could see any artist living or dead, any point in history, perform, what would, what's your dream bucket list concert that you'd love to see?

Chandler Hutchison:

whew. What an amazing question. I almost feel like I have to pick someone that is dead or not touring, you know what I mean? Because the chance is still out there for a living show. So it's funny, the first, the first person that, or first band that came to mind immediately was just the Red Hot Chili Peppers. I love the Chilis and I don't know anything about their live performances other than, you know, flea being naked for most of them. But I think, I just imagine from, you know, knowing 20 of their songs and loving them for however many years I. I just imagine that that has to be such an unbelievable live show. just from listening to the music and not doing any research, and, you know, I know a little bit about Anthony Kiedis and those guys, but I think that the Chilis just, they have to be just amazing, amazing live performers. Um, so that would be one. And then, you know, uh, I would think, you know, sort of just like an all time Prime Rolling Stones show too, would probably be one of them. Uh, there's, there's no one, there's no one that I'm thinking other than those two. I think those would probably be my top two if I, if I could, uh, have a little dream lineup going on.

Alex Gadd:

That sounds good to me. I, I think the Chilis are a great live band. I, I think you would Absolutely. What you think is a hundred percent right, they're very high energy, totally committed. They're totally locked in when they play, they're, it's obvious. They're very close and, musically close. Not, I don't know how friendly they are, but they seem pretty friendly too. But they're very locked in musically, and it comes off, they're really great. And Chad, the drummer, has such great energy, and Anthony and Flea and John, they're, what? A, it's a great band. Uh, and the Rolling Stones, I've seen six times over the years since 1981 was the first time I saw them. And let me tell you, I wish I had seen the 1972 tour or the

Chandler Hutchison:

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Alex Gadd:

tour. That was the, them at their height of their power, you know, at their greatest,

Chandler Hutchison:

my, my dad's probably seen them a similar amount, I don't know, six, eight, something like that in there. And, he's had such a big influence on the music we listen to, and I see clips of Mick Jagger now still performing 80 years old, dancing the same way. And it just blows your mind. So if they're still putting on that show at 80 and 70 and 60 and 50, yeah. Imagine them in 1972. I, it, it would've been incredible.

Alex Gadd:

yeah. I'm going to see'em in May,

Chandler Hutchison:

Oh, that's amazing. Where are they playing?

Alex Gadd:

MetLife Stadium

Chandler Hutchison:

Ah, that's gonna be awesome.

Alex Gadd:

play. Yeah. But it's one of those things, it's so big that I, hopefully, I think our seats are pretty good, so it will be okay. But you go, because how many more times am I gonna get to see the Rolling Stones? I saw'em in 1981 and now 2024. That's a pretty impressive 43 year span. That's still amazing. So

Chandler Hutchison:

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their catalog, I mean, they could play three full shows and still have three shows of music they haven't touched yet. I mean, they, it is incredible

Alex Gadd:

They, don't do that, but I wish they would because they really, they have so many great songs. I mean, they wrote essentially the blueprint for popular blues-based rock right? I mean, they took Chuck Berry and they brought it back, you know, when Chuck Berry was no longer popular and they made it popular again.

Chandler Hutchison:

right. So I know you're doing the interview, but what's your favorite all time Stones song if you had to pick one?

Alex Gadd:

That is a great question. Uh, my favorite Rolling Stone song by far, bar none is Tumbling Dice,

Chandler Hutchison:

Tumbling Dice. I love it. I'm gonna have a whole list of music tonight just from this. I'm gonna, I'm gonna be in the weeds tonight.

Alex Gadd:

I mean, there are a ton that I love. I love Sympathy For The Devil. I love All Down The Line really my favorite Stones record is, Beggar's Banquet, which has Sympathy For The Devil and, other great songs, but it's almost like an acoustic record other than Sympathy for the Devil. But it, it's a great record. And that started off, a four album run of theirs that I don't think any band has or will ever top. Maybe The Beatles, but I don't think The Beatles even produced four records in a row that were of such excellent quality. Ending with Sticky Fingers. But from 68 to 72, they produced so much essential music and singles on top of it. They were, they were great. And so seeing them at the end of that in 1972 would've been great. But Tumbling Dice, uh, is the, the record for me for sure. How about you?

Chandler Hutchison:

Mine, mine, I think is Memory Motel. I think that, uh, yeah, that's, that's always been a favorite of mine. And, you know, the little, few seconds of Keith Richards singing, you know, halfway the song and everything, uh, getting everyone involved and, you know, just, I mean, that's what's, that's gotta be six and a half, seven minutes long, I'd imagine. I don't know off the top of my head, that's a long track, but, uh, amazing song, amazing song. I'd, I'd with that as my favorite

Alex Gadd:

Yeah, that's a good one too. I can't argue. It's fantastic. All right, wrapping it up. Is there anyone that you'd love to meet? Is there a musician you'd love to meet?

Chandler Hutchison:

Uh,

Alex Gadd:

Bucket list stuff?

Chandler Hutchison:

if there was a musician I could meet, uh, we talk and hang out for a few minutes. We talk and grab dinner. So I, I'd say so my two favorite artists, uh, as I mentioned Khalid is probably my favorite artist and, you know, he's my age. I've been listening to him, you know, as I mentioned from, you know, high school through now, so high school, college through Covid afterwards. So like during all these important years and, you know, I mentioned that, that live experience with him singing a couple songs acoustic and everything. And, um, I just, I love, I love his music. I love what he stands for. You know, we the same age. He's as awful at dancing as I am when he's on stage. So he's just up there being goofy and being himself, which I love. And, uh, so I'd love to get to meet and hang out with him. And then my other favorite artist getting into rap is J Cole. I am as big of J Cole fan as there is, absolutely love everything he's ever put out. And, uh, you know, he's, he's one of those rappers that just does so much good work that goes unnoticed. And I'd love to just pick his brain. He's the best lyrical rapper ever. Uh, he is an absolute poet with his words and a surgeon with his words, he's, he's really fascinating to me, and especially when it comes to rap. I listen to the lyrics more than anything else. A lot of people are in for the beats and the loud music and all that stuff, which is fine, but I don't think that there is a lyricist in hip hop and rap that touches J Cole. And, uh, I was about to call him Jermaine, like, we're friends. You know, that doesn't, no one's as good as Jermaine, but.

Alex Gadd:

There you go. You could say it. Maybe that's how you become friends. When he sees this, he's be like,"Chandler's the guy I want to get to talk to."

Chandler Hutchison:

Absolutely. So I, I'd love to get to hang out with him and just pick his brain. How do you get a quadruple entendre in, in two lyrics? You know, how, how do you do that? I watch lyric breakdown videos of him, so I'd love to just get to pick his brain and, you know, figure out his writing process. I'm not a musician, but I do enjoy writing and I'm always fascinated how different people communicate and are able to figure out different ways to communicate. So the fact that he's the writer he is, I'd love to get to chat with him. I'm such a big fan. You know, Spotify Wrapped, how they send that to you at the end of the year. I was in his top 0.05% of Spotify listeners. And I was like, well, I didn't know I was that into him, you know,

Alex Gadd:

But at the same time, he should, if he knows how to really hit the socials, he should reach out to his top 0.5% of listeners and send them something, Just, uh, thank you. That's a commitment.

Chandler Hutchison:

I'm here. I'm here.

Alex Gadd:

Alright. Do you have any concerts coming up? Are you, do you have any tickets for any concerts?

Chandler Hutchison:

I have tickets to, um, a smaller artist in April who's going to be playing. Where is he? It's, I think it's Road Runner, which is a couple thousand seat venue in Boston that I mentioned earlier.

Alex Gadd:

Who is that? give some, let's give some shout outs to Smaller artists. Who is it that you're gonna see?

Chandler Hutchison:

Oh, sorry. Yeah. Yeah. His name's Hans Williams. So he's a Vermont based artist. He went to Tulane. He lives down in New Orleans now. But, there's been this, uh, sort of little surge of some really cool folk indie artists out of the northeast. I mean, Noah Khan is one of the biggest artists on the planet right now. Small town from Vermont, and I think Hans Williams, you know, I'm a huge fan of his music. He's a young guy doing some cool, uh. Multi genre music, you know, I indie and alternative, I don't know what they mean anymore. Same as rock. I don't know what it means. So, I kind of consider this kid a, indie folk artist and he makes some really cool music and I can't wait to go see him. I'm going with a couple of my good friends who are big fans as well. So, uh, coming up in April, that's the next event that I'm really excited for. Other than, I do have three FlipTurn shows on the docket this summer, but I can't just keep, keep, you know, spamming, FlipTurn during this conversation.

Alex Gadd:

You did say FlipTurn is playing up in somewhere in Boston too, right?

Chandler Hutchison:

Yep. So they'll be playing House of Blues, I think at the end of March, and then they'll be playing, uh, a few different venues. MGM, which is in the seaport in Boston, they're opening up for Two Door Cinema Club and, uh, who's the other one? It's, it's a festival in Central Mass. I, I can't even think of who's out there.

Alex Gadd:

At the House of Blues, are they the headliners?

Chandler Hutchison:

Yes, yes, they're, they're headlining their own tour right now, which is pretty Cool.

Alex Gadd:

Well, great. That's all I got for you. What did I miss? Did I miss, is there something I should have asked you that I didn't?

Chandler Hutchison:

Anything else we can talk about?

Alex Gadd:

I mean, I'm, there's always more

Chandler Hutchison:

Yeah, I know. I mean, I don't want to, this is your show, so I can't sit here and interview you, but I mean, hey, I'd be happy to do this again anytime. We can talk offline about music anytime too. But I don't think there too much left uncovered when it comes to sort of the live concert experience. I'm such a fan of going to all these shows. I think people need to go to more live music. I think especially after Covid and everything that happened, people need to get out and support these artists, and it's the only way that they're gonna come back to your town, to your city. It's the way that they can go play a bigger venue, which means that you get to actually buy tickets when the last one was sold out. You know, you gotta go out and support live music and support these artists. So, um, I'm just, I'm so excited that I could come on here and talk about it a little bit and uh, you know, have a fun music conversation. But to wrap it up, I would just say to anyone listening out there. Look up your favorite artists. Go to their website, go to their Instagram and hit that tour button. You might be surprised. I've looked at artists and I say, wow, they're in Boston in four weeks, and I end up going to the show. You know, it's, uh, it's something that a lot of people really don't consider, which is funny. We're listening to music twenty four seven headphones in the car while you're, whatever it is. So I'd, uh, I'd leave that little call to action to sort of wrap this conversation up. Go buy some concert tickets and support live music.

Alex Gadd:

I love it. That's a great way to end up. Chandler, thank you so much. I appreciate your time today and your thoughtful responses and uh, maybe I'll see you up at the House of Blues at the end of March.

Chandler Hutchison:

All right. Amazing. Sounds good, Alex. Thank you.

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