Life Or Death

Navigating Life's Spiritual and Secular Dimensions

June 28, 2024 Jes
Navigating Life's Spiritual and Secular Dimensions
Life Or Death
More Info
Life Or Death
Navigating Life's Spiritual and Secular Dimensions
Jun 28, 2024
Jes

Send us a Text Message.

Can organized religion truly guide us towards a more fulfilling life, or does it confine our personal growth? In this compelling episode, we promise to unravel the intricate benefits of religious frameworks and how they provide structure, purpose, and moral guidance. We also acknowledge the emotional and social challenges that can arise from adhering to these systems, such as feelings of ostracization or condemnation. Through thoughtful discussion, we highlight the importance of self-awareness and perseverance in balancing secular and spiritual aspects of everyday life, inviting you to reflect deeply on your own beliefs and practices.

As we venture further, we tackle the profound intersection of spiritualism, self-belief, and human resilience. How do societal norms shape our spiritual and emotional wellness, and what does it mean to truly forge your own path? We explore the struggle between seeking validation and embracing individual discovery, emphasizing the value of inner peace and proactive living. Our conversation underscores the power of personal choice, urging you to seize control of your destiny and live fully. Join us for an inspiring dialogue that encourages you to find personal worth and freedom from societal constraints, culminating in a heartfelt wish for a blessed evening.

Support the Show.

Life Or Death +
Become a supporter of the show!
Starting at $3/month
Support
Show Notes Transcript Chapter Markers

Send us a Text Message.

Can organized religion truly guide us towards a more fulfilling life, or does it confine our personal growth? In this compelling episode, we promise to unravel the intricate benefits of religious frameworks and how they provide structure, purpose, and moral guidance. We also acknowledge the emotional and social challenges that can arise from adhering to these systems, such as feelings of ostracization or condemnation. Through thoughtful discussion, we highlight the importance of self-awareness and perseverance in balancing secular and spiritual aspects of everyday life, inviting you to reflect deeply on your own beliefs and practices.

As we venture further, we tackle the profound intersection of spiritualism, self-belief, and human resilience. How do societal norms shape our spiritual and emotional wellness, and what does it mean to truly forge your own path? We explore the struggle between seeking validation and embracing individual discovery, emphasizing the value of inner peace and proactive living. Our conversation underscores the power of personal choice, urging you to seize control of your destiny and live fully. Join us for an inspiring dialogue that encourages you to find personal worth and freedom from societal constraints, culminating in a heartfelt wish for a blessed evening.

Support the Show.

Speaker 0:

Organized religions. Because it's organized, because it creates infrastructure. It gives you a policy, a procedure, a yes, a no, a righteous, a evil, and it continues to advance within you. When I say it advances within you, you must work on it. You've thought about this, right. Clearly, you've mapped out this path, the road that you're taking. You're not like a peeve, turned upside down or denied by its presence. Rather, it's something that you find interesting and compelling. Our organized religions are coinciding with the benefits of religion, because I choose to be alive, right.

Speaker 0:

Are there forms of religion that actually condemn you? They make it worse. I'm not capable and able of advancing in this world. No, no, no, no. I'm being shunned, I'm being denied. No, they've decided to crucify me. What do you mean? I've been completely kicked out, thrown out on the streets. I have no clothing, I have no food. They told me nothing, my Lord, where did they come from? And who was paying their tithes? I think different. Yes, of course.

Speaker 0:

So spiritualism in a possible secular world and my honest confession before I get carried away in this. This is going to be one of my short talks, but before I get carried away, secular world. Everybody knows how I feel about titles, how I feel about labels. Let's not have the emotional attachment to a personal preference in this world. Come up with a title that condones yes, this is what I believe in. No, this is what I do not believe in. I think it's completely irrelevant emotional attachment to personal preference. So, yesterday, like I think we're over it. So we'll continue to advance.

Speaker 0:

So organize religion. And your religion is organized because it gives you boundaries, it gives you infrastructure. You're capable of winning and failing. You see, a lot of us would hate to face the fact that it's called life and it is a gift. By the way, lord forgive me, it definitely is a gift. Well, what is the alternatives of life? Well, there's only one it's called death. You can be alive or you can be dead. So having an organized religion gives you the opportunity to have a side route. I'm going to detour myself. I feel bored. I'm going to get lost for a little bit. Why don't we toil and carpet ourselves into some inadequacy? That doesn't work. Organized religions excellent. The benefits of it.

Speaker 0:

Engage with spiritual aspects. You have more wellness. So they've proven that if you're engaged with spiritual aspects, you practice it in heart, soul, mind, thought, word and deed. You give yourself infrastructure. You become a whole person intellectual, spiritual, physical, intimate. You believe in those different dynamics and you live within it and you actually flush it on out. And when I say flush it out, you live within it. I bring it to the surface. I don't just shine light on the topic or address it and talk about it. We're actually moving within this aspect.

Speaker 0:

Most of us lack the ability or the determination, perseverance and I was going to say persecution, persecution of perseverance, because I'm being persecuted so that I can persevere, so I can advance beyond it. Lord forgive me we lack the engagement. I don't want to implement it, I don't want to challenge it, I don't even want to test it. So, most theories, concepts of life, hobbies, interests, if you want, personal preferences, yes, of course they are only relevant because the thought theory and the reason is adequate. And, of course, we'd like to talk to one another. Good evening, how are you so cool?

Speaker 0:

I was reading this new book and I think that you're into this topic. Did you want to hear what my assessment of is? We share forms of life, beliefs that we gain notoriety in, but if the gain of notoriety is only a complete loss and we're not capable and able, within that mindset of advancing and being that high level of what, of awareness, because our self-awareness is the reflection in the mirror. We are the acceptance or the denial. So secular would mean that I separate from who, but at this particular venue I'm separating from myself. I'm no longer within myself in body and spirit. And they were saying mind and body. I was doing heart, soul, mind, body and spirit. So I'm separating from myself. My own wants and needs are not practical. It's not something that I can achieve. I can't take it there. It's a waste of space. I'm spinning my wheels and I've been derived in every angle and that's not good for the wellness aspect.

Speaker 0:

So, engaging in spiritualism, discovering, proves that there's longevity in life, proves that there's longevity in life, proves that there's a mental, physical, emotional, substance, probably economical, intimate wellness. So it's something that we should all believe in. Not believe, but also be capable of fleshing out or embracing. Believe in self-invested, and that's what I wrote down Believe in yourself. Most of us have only self-doubting notions. So then, when we fail, when it's oppressive, when it's bondage, when it's wages of sin and inequity that have been placed onto us, immediately we run off like a catalyst and we're off to the library, I'm pulling up the phone, I'm Googling it. No, I need to know more. We're sponging it up. You know, we, as humanity, we love to learn, so we believe in self. But when self fails, we're quick to repulse and to find another level, to find another derogative and to find out how we can exist.

Speaker 0:

Infrastructure creates a norm in the world because we've been told that every aspect you've ever thought of that's not normal. No, no, no, no, no. There was somebody that did this before you and this is the way that they found to be adequate. I gave you the example a couple of weeks ago and I know it sounds redundant. Right, it's like you're I can buy something that needs to be put together right in a box and I can have instructions with it, and I literally will leave the instructions in the box and attempt to just start figuring it out. And I'm not sure if it's like curiosity, to where I want to overcome this challenge, or I'm bored and I want to see if the brain can figure it out.

Speaker 0:

But I don't like following the path that somebody else created, because if I spend the rest of my life invested in limitations or restrictions, statutes, codes and laws that clearly don't work. God forgive me. I walk within the spirit. I'm no longer underneath the law. Very good, think about what I'm saying. Then I never have the ability to succeed or to fail to discover life, and I like to advance. By the way, did you hear me? I flesh it out. I actually make it practical. They talk about different types of injuries and I've seen none of it. As well, I'm going to experience this injury.

Speaker 0:

I need to know, and the need is the confession here. The secular world isn't a sense of oppression. Everything that gets viewed is viewed from the outside in, and the external works are never relevant, because it's only what somebody else is going to say. In the end, find your own worth. For goodness sakes. Never encounter an aspect, personal or professional, to where your worth is diminished by somebody else's persona on how it should be interpreted or on what the take is from it. I don't care if you're giving or taking, reaping or sowing. It needs to be relevant to you so that you can advance. And here's the honest confession.

Speaker 0:

Some of us, we need to be told how to live. Yes, of course, and why? Where does that come from? It comes from being nurturing and nurturing. We're existing in this world. We're being told you're not allowed to do that. Okay, it's fine, you want to, but you have to ask. So we adopt this mentality, this mindset, this thought pattern that each and every day we need to be told how to live. And if we're not being told God forbid, then we better start asking so that we know we're making the right decisions.

Speaker 0:

And I know you think like, come on, nobody wants to be like robots. They don't want to be like zombies, puppet, pull the string on the back and listen to the mouth. Yeah, the limits or boundaries is a form of life, though it goes beyond just an actual secular of you know this is the way that they walk. You know this is the way they go to church. They wear this type of clothing because they don't believe in that form of poverty. Anytime it requires acceptance of denial of anybody else. That's not secular, it's completely upheaved.

Speaker 0:

You're living in bondage. I like my board of advisors and I've told you this before and they really get into it. They're steadfast, they're devoted, they're very, very calm and very patient. I don't think you have anything to worry about. I'm modest, or I've been celibate for X amount of years because I've devoted myself to him and I keep thinking about it like how, in any way, shape or form because I reference his works of being good works. Good works must lead to joy and satisfaction.

Speaker 0:

Yes, of course, unless you've completely evolved around the whole entire world to where even the inequity of works, the evil and the wickedness has completely manifested in you, so that you can start loving it, then why would your submissiveness to bondage be no more than a burden? Why would it be no worth? Why would it be baggage? If you would, I can't carry it around. And have you ever heard of Jesus Christ? You believe in forgiveness, right? When did it happen? No, I'm not asking the date, but I meant now and forever. It's so crazy. Like what happened to you. Are you okay? Absolutely.

Speaker 0:

So what does it mean to be a human, to be a human being? I think you're like a creature. I really don't think you're like a creator at this moment. I think you're like a creature. I think you're capable of walking and sprawling this earth. I think you can definitely make mistakes. You can probably take it so far as your own life would be ended, but you're also capable of rewards. You're probably capable of joy, of happiness, of pro-life. You might even get to experience intimacy, god only knows.

Speaker 0:

Some said there's economic gains in this world. I'm trying to get a whole bunch. Maybe it was just a little bit, I'm not quite sure, but bit, I'm not quite sure, but I'm interested. Yes, of course, life do I need to take a number? There is no book, there is no guide to tell you how to live your life, but within religion, we grasp the concept that we're continuing to learn how to evolve as an adult.

Speaker 0:

But what if life was just what it was? And think about this, because it's a stupid question, it's not a trick question, it doesn't even exist. What if life was what it was? What if, regardless of what decisions you make, whether it's right or whether it's wrong that life continues to advance You're either alive or you're either dead? Would it be oppression? Would it be something that we should talk about? Should we praise it? Should we sing about it? Or should we deny its presence? And that is the fact of this. Isn't it fun we get to actually live life and guess what? Regardless of whether it's right or wrong, it continues to advance. It continues to go on.

Speaker 0:

So traditions, religion and practices are relevant when they flesh it out when it comes to completeness, when the wholeness of your heart, soul and mind advances within that. And mindfulness of life is a hobby Mindfulness. My mind is full of these academic, intellectual, compelling aspects of life. In some cases it's knowledge, it's wisdom. But if I never flesh it out and I'm not capable of walking within that discipline and that degree, then I've lost hope and I've lost everything and I don't want to lose anything. So my concerns become skepticism when other individuals involve themselves in this crazy little thing called love. Maybe it was life, I'm not quite sure. Did you breathe last night? Very good, study practices. But we study our own practices just to see who we are. We flush it out. We see our thoughts. They're derogatory. We lead to action. The cause and the effect is relevant because we shall advance, even if it hurts. Figure it out.

Speaker 0:

They say the labor, the toil in the deeds, every deed, there's laboring and toils within it. Cost-effectiveness is it worth it? Is it not worth it? Not? You know what we're going to pass you. We're going to fail you. No, no, no. Is it worth it to you? What type of worth does it provide?

Speaker 0:

And if, wholeness of the heart, soul, mind, body and spirit, which was what we were referencing comes to a sense of completion by your manifesting and continuing to walk within it, then you should have that fulfillment, that sustainment. Believe doesn't have mind-body practicality. I can believe in it 24-7. We can talk about it, I can hope about it, we can even have faith, but there is no practicality in the actual action of the course of walking down the road. So it needs to be zen-like. I need to be home, I need to be spiritualized and it needs to be of worth and of belonging.

Speaker 0:

So I'm not quite sure about you and there's a lot of labels. It could be greed, it could be jealousy, it could be denominational preferences, tone, ethnicity, it could even have racial slurs. Lord, forgive me, who knew that? But the secular within you is no more than your heart beating and your soul attempting to tell everybody else except for you that it wants to be alive. So don't shy away from your inner calling.

Speaker 0:

Find the peace within and get sent with it. Not only be peace and contentment. Be capable of taking it to what levels you find to be relevant and notice. I didn't say limits because there are none. It's this thing called life and you could be alive or find to be relevant. And notice, I didn't say limits because there are none. It's this thing called life, and you could be alive or you could be dead. But yet, of course, I hope and pray that that decision's up to you, because if you're waiting for somebody to tell you go, you might just hit the wall running. I'm not quite sure. Well, thank you for listening for Life or Death Ministries. Have a very, very blessed evening.

Exploring Benefits of Organized Religion
Navigating Personal Beliefs and Practices
Embracing Peace and Personal Choice