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Wing Flavor Face-Offs and Sporting Showdowns: Condiment Clashes, Award Show Anecdotes, and Fantasy Football Forecasts
Ever wondered if Wingstop Ranch is worthy of a shot glass? Tune in to hear our hilarious take on the ultimate condiment showdown and our hotly debated Mount Rushmore of wing flavors. From honey barbecue to whiskey glaze, we crown our top picks and give a nod to honorable mentions like garlic parmesan. Plus, we weigh in on the eternal battle of ranch versus blue cheese and tease our upcoming weekend bets that you won’t want to miss.
Remember when Nickelodeon broadcasted NFL games and handed out blimps like they were Oscars? We reminisce about those nostalgic moments, spark a spirited debate on the significance of various award shows—including the BET Awards, MTV Awards, and Golden Globes—and even share some personal setbacks and production delays that almost derailed this episode. It's a rollercoaster of laughs, frustrations, and fond memories that brings us closer to our love for football and the spirit of competition.
Fantasy football fanatics, get ready! We dive deep into rookie draft strategies, player trades, and even the complicated world of NFL team dynamics. Whether you’re curious about the potential of rookies like Xavier Worthy and Brian Thomas Jr., or keen on the impact of key players such as Tyreek Hill and Najee Harris, we’ve got insights that will give you an edge. And stick around as we debate what it means to be "washed" in sports, with comparisons of legends like LeBron James and Russell Wilson. Join us for a whirlwind episode packed with football memories and heated debates—it's one you won't want to miss!
Ever wondered if Wingstop Ranch is worthy of a shot glass? Tune in to hear our hilarious take on the ultimate condiment showdown and our hotly debated Mount Rushmore of wing flavors. From honey barbecue to whiskey glaze, we crown our top picks and give a nod to honorable mentions like garlic parmesan. Plus, we weigh in on the eternal battle of ranch versus blue cheese and tease our upcoming weekend bets that you won’t want to miss.
Remember when Nickelodeon broadcasted NFL games and handed out blimps like they were Oscars? We reminisce about those nostalgic moments, spark a spirited debate on the significance of various award shows—including the BET Awards, MTV Awards, and Golden Globes—and even share some personal setbacks and production delays that almost derailed this episode. It's a rollercoaster of laughs, frustrations, and fond memories that brings us closer to our love for football and the spirit of competition.
Fantasy football fanatics, get ready! We dive deep into rookie draft strategies, player trades, and even the complicated world of NFL team dynamics. Whether you’re curious about the potential of rookies like Xavier Worthy and Brian Thomas Jr., or keen on the impact of key players such as Tyreek Hill and Najee Harris, we’ve got insights that will give you an edge. And stick around as we debate what it means to be "washed" in sports, with comparisons of legends like LeBron James and Russell Wilson. Join us for a whirlwind episode packed with football memories and heated debates—it's one you won't want to miss!
season two, episode three. Took another three weeks to make Season 2, episode 3.
Speaker 2:Took another three weeks to make. We were going downhill very fast.
Speaker 4:Last week was my fault.
Speaker 3:The week before that.
Speaker 2:I think all of us we did it two weeks ago.
Speaker 1:We guaranteed everybody on the air. We did.
Speaker 3:He had all from work. You didn't want to do anything, kyle, you were in bum mode.
Speaker 1:I'm not going, did, we did. He had all from work. Now it's an every other week thing. Yeah, you didn't want to do anything, kyle. You were like I'm not going to do anything today.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I get that though sometimes, but I tried to pull you out. It didn't work.
Speaker 1:Oh, and, by the way, I got yelled at. Leo won an Oscar, I know.
Speaker 2:I texted you that. What did we say? The Golden Globes, that's a TV show. I don't know. Yeah, I think the Golden Globes is a TV show.
Speaker 1:I can't keep track you might be right, it's the same shit, come on he got an award.
Speaker 2:It's not a TV show, dude, I'd take any of them.
Speaker 3:No, I know it's like an award show An award for a TV show.
Speaker 2:We're saying a Golden Globe is an award for a TV show.
Speaker 3:Wait, what did he win it for, though? Yes, it is.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:What did he win it for, though? No, he didn't actually win a Golden Globe. We were talking about the Oscar last podcast and we messed up.
Speaker 1:We all thought Golden.
Speaker 4:Globe Got it.
Speaker 1:Whatever dude, I'll take a Golden Globe. I'll take any of them dude, I don't have much A Grammy, yeah, whatever Emmys, whatever, even the smaller, smaller ones are, I don't know, bet.
Speaker 2:What? No, I wouldn't take that. A what A BET award I'll take it. Nah.
Speaker 1:What about like an MTV award. Those are cool like 20 years ago, that's true.
Speaker 2:That was. I'll take a Nickelodeon award. Those are still pretty cool. Early 2000s.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like 10 years ago really. That's actually pretty dope. I don't know, man, I think it was actual gold. I think you don't have anything, kyle. No, nickelodeon does nfl game.
Speaker 1:No, I'd be pretty hyped if I had like a nickelodeon blimp I like, oh, speaking of, did you see the last year? They I think it was the jags actually they did the um the cartoon one. Yeah, I watched the whole thing really cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, wasn't it like a spongebob voice. He was like no, he might have been one of the broadcasters?
Speaker 1:I don't remember, I was just awesome, yeah, um, so let's, let's fire away here. Let's start off with a little. What are we gonna do first? Oh would you rather all right, we talked about this blue cheese or ranch dressing for your wings ranch for anything ranch for I'm blue cheese I'm whatever comes with the order unless I really don't care, unless it's wingstop I did
Speaker 2:both. Wingstop ranch is the best ranch sean. I've seen him take shots of wingshot yeah wingstop ranch trying to say that 10 times fast Holy. Wingstop.
Speaker 1:Ranch is the best Dude.
Speaker 3:taking a shot of ranch is like.
Speaker 2:Wingstop Ranch. I'd do it If I could chase it with like a wing no condiment.
Speaker 3:I'm taking no shot of a condiment.
Speaker 4:Wow.
Speaker 3:I'll be honest.
Speaker 4:I don't know, not even ketchup.
Speaker 3:I would do ketchup.
Speaker 4:It's got to be something really flavorful.
Speaker 1:I mean, I don't know, that's a good dip, but I don't know actually.
Speaker 2:No, wingstop Ranch is the only one this is interesting, that's like a very fat thing to do.
Speaker 3:We're not talking about skinny people here, dude.
Speaker 4:We're talking about you know, if you had to what are you going to do?
Speaker 2:Wingstop Ranch? 100% I'm going to do One-stop ranch 100%.
Speaker 1:I'm going to get a condiment lineup going Like mustard with cheese.
Speaker 2:I could do a shot of cheese.
Speaker 1:Okay, cheese is cheese, though who's?
Speaker 3:that.
Speaker 1:I highly doubt it. I'd die from obesity.
Speaker 3:Well, if we're taking shots of ranch. I don't know.
Speaker 2:I mean, if we got sponsored by Wingstop, I would die of obesity. I'd literally eat there ranch, I don't know I mean, if we got sponsored by wingstop, I would die of obesity, their stock would soar. Yeah, just from you. No, I get it free.
Speaker 1:No, you don't get the first meal a day free. Oh really, I don't know. I don't know, free ranch for life, never has sponsored my life. I so with the wing thing, let's go with Top three. I don't have a cool button for it.
Speaker 2:You know what just go? Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 1:You got Damn. I didn't know we were going to go that big today, but alright, I'm in for it.
Speaker 4:Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 1:Alright, so let's do a Mount Rushmore your top four Wing flavors and they don't have to be in any order. You can just rock out and have fun. All right, so let's do a Mount Rushmore your top four wing flavors, and they'll be in any order. You can just rock out and have fun.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'll start it, all right.
Speaker 1:You called the Mount Rushmore, so you got to start it, any order?
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Honey, barbecue, whiskey glaze, lemon pepper. I might have to just go with the classic mild for the fourth Caribbean jerk's good too, wow, I'm going to just go with the classic mild for the fourth Caribbean Jerk's good too, wow, I'm going to go classic mild because the Applebee's mild wins.
Speaker 3:Wait but you need an extra, though I do. Well, that's only you, Kyle. No, that's it. Can I have?
Speaker 1:an honorable mention.
Speaker 2:No, Can I add another Well?
Speaker 1:yeah, how about another one?
Speaker 2:That is my four or five. What was? Or five? Kyle Kyle was that TV?
Speaker 3:shows we're done.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was. There's your top, yeah, top four. There's a lot of good TV. There is just listed every TV show you like. Yeah, pretty much like love, not like loved.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it shows, yeah All right Kyle top four. I'll go lemon pepper garlic.
Speaker 1:I'll go lemon pepper.
Speaker 3:Garlic parmesan there it is Probably honey barbecue Chipotle ranch.
Speaker 2:That's a wing flavor. Yeah, I never had it.
Speaker 1:Interesting who makes?
Speaker 3:that I forget. I had it a while ago.
Speaker 2:You had it at a place though.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's like some wing place, wings and things.
Speaker 1:Sounds made up Wings and things.
Speaker 3:I forget. No, I had it in like high school or something. Okay.
Speaker 1:All right, well, let's just slide into it.
Speaker 3:Look it up, we prove you wrong.
Speaker 1:So I'm going to go with, yes, garlic parm, yes to honey barbecue, and I'm gonna go with a mild.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna call it the mild buffalo, but only the one from court, jester mine's those wings are ridiculous I'm like I'm so hooked on them lately.
Speaker 1:I don't know why they're so good. It's like enough burn.
Speaker 4:Just just start to tear a little bit, a little bit. You just have a little bit of tears going. This is going.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, you're just starting to clear you up yeah, and then my last one. I don't know man, I'm like really torn like see lemon pepper was good from uh twisted crab dude, that was like so good and then like a regular, like smoked barbecue sauce, I'm thinking too.
Speaker 2:Um what whiskey glaze is good, yeah, but I'm thinking like more of a smoke, but I'm I'm blanking out on this dry rub.
Speaker 1:There's a dry rub that I like it's not spicy, though I'm blanked out, I don't know. Give me like 10 minutes. I'll start yelling it to you guys, because I'll finally remember it. Okay, all right, so that's my three and I'll get back to it.
Speaker 2:Don't forget. I'm not going to forget because it's stuck.
Speaker 1:I said whatever it comes with Sometimes. Sometimes you get like um, they ask you, like whatever, some places don't ask you they'll just give you ranch, or blue cheese and whatever it comes, I just don't care okay, I'm dipping either one.
Speaker 2:I'm dipping either one. You either take a shot of one of those two ranch if I had to do a shot. Yeah, either. Yeah, if you had to. There's no question, the gun to your head he doesn't understand these questions I guess ranch.
Speaker 1:Obviously you don't want chunky stuff in your shots. I guess that's my thing I like blue cheese. But, blue cheese is very good with a really spicy buffalo, though it's actually good.
Speaker 2:Obviously, that's the only time I would use it, though.
Speaker 1:So let's get into the next fun Weekend bets. So we're going back all the way back to the Olympic age. Yeah, because it was a whole two weeks ago, because we suck, we were 1-0 going into it. You guys both doubled down on men's basketball and I was women's soccer.
Speaker 2:And we all hit Nice, nice two and oh, on the season stephen curry alone, dude bro that dude lights out, did you?
Speaker 3:see the the game dude.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's lights out dude. Oh my god, he wasn't missing in the. He gets when he gets pumped like that. He gets hot. There's no, but it's a pump though he's not just hot.
Speaker 2:No, I know he shows it yeah, his energy level three in a row? No, but he's.
Speaker 3:Oh, dude, he hit the one shot that made me go crazy, like he faded away two people deep over two people yeah, I was like okay, the guy's just so let's continue he's just not human, so undefeated record yeah, can I go for a game tomorrow?
Speaker 2:uh?
Speaker 1:all right, I mean, technically, you could, I just have to get it out in time with my editing skills. But yeah, we could definitely go ahead I'm taking fsu minus 10 so you're going into the world of college football all right.
Speaker 2:Week one I don't really count as week one fsu.
Speaker 1:But first game we're doing, we're doing minus 10?.
Speaker 2:Yeah, whatever the spread's going to be, I think it's at minus 10 right now.
Speaker 1:It might go to 10. Georgia.
Speaker 2:Tech. Yeah, yep, I think so.
Speaker 1:All right, so I got that in the book, so don't suck at that.
Speaker 2:OK.
Speaker 1:Oh, by the way, the wing flavor yeah. Teriyaki, did you no, no I don't think no, get out of here buffalo wild wings. Teriyaki is very good, like there's like. There's just where it's from, though, but there's one like teriyaki glaze I thought whiskey glaze.
Speaker 2:You go for whiskey?
Speaker 1:whiskey glaze is rare, though it's not at every I know, but whoever like uh, fridays like that's like they have the jack daniels glaze yeah, that was ridiculous.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dude, I didn't even think of that that's actually that's.
Speaker 1:That might be it. I don't Fridays Like they used to have the Jack Daniels glaze. That was actually ridiculous, Dude. I didn't even think of that. That might be it.
Speaker 2:I don't think they do it anymore, but TGI Fries used to have endless apps for $10. $15. I love that place.
Speaker 1:Alright, so tomorrow is Saturday, so yeah, I could do weekend bets. I'll get it in tonight then. Alright, so Kyle.
Speaker 3:I'll go Yankees um win against the rockies tomorrow the straight up yeah, right now money line. Yeah, they're playing right now, but I think they're gonna win tomorrow, I think they lose tonight, when they play tomorrow, I'm sorry the rockies I don't. Are the rockies doing good this year? No but, but they're hot.
Speaker 1:They are 47 and 81. Yeah, but they've been hot lately.
Speaker 3:Dude, the Rockies suck.
Speaker 2:Well, they do suck, but they've been hot lately.
Speaker 1:I mean, the Yankees have been terrible lately, but I don't know, maybe it'll bring them good luck I am going with, and let me double check to make sure I am correct on this one. But I think my men from rexham are playing tomorrow. Let me just go into the foot mob app, since nobody wants to freaking cover them because they're not high enough league yet. Screw you america. Yes, they are playing. They are playing Reading tomorrow. So I'm going to take Wrexham for the W no draw.
Speaker 4:We're going for the win.
Speaker 1:I'm pretty sure Reading is in first place though.
Speaker 2:Oh, no, we have a tied record.
Speaker 1:We're both tied for fourth yeah, some teams have two wins already. Wrexham has a win and a tie, so it's a big, good game. But I'm going with them to win. Okay, that's the best. Hopefully Paul Mullins is back. Finish watching the show please Get my hype level with me.
Speaker 1:I'm on like episode four or five, no remember. We were like 11 or 12. Oh, we're that deep, yeah, dude, On season one. But then they die down, Like it was like 20 episodes and it was 10, 8. So they die, they do die down. Wait, per season. Per season's like 20 episodes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then it's like 10, then it's 8.
Speaker 1:I think I don't even know. I think it, but whatever, All right.
Speaker 2:So we got our vets locked in, Let me put your names next to them too, because I don't want you guys to steal each other's wins. No FSU, I'd never pick the Yankees though.
Speaker 1:All right, so let's stick into the realm of sports. So we're in August, the end of August. Let's talk about fantasy football. Finally, has anybody done any drafts.
Speaker 2:Yet we had the rookie draft. We had the rookie draft.
Speaker 1:Have you done any drafts?
Speaker 3:yet no, I have mine tomorrow.
Speaker 1:How many leagues are we doing?
Speaker 3:Three keepers you done, do one more.
Speaker 2:How many are you in? Two right now. One. Did you drop out of one? Yeah, so right now.
Speaker 1:I'm in a sleeper league.
Speaker 2:That's um has it's been a keeper league, but we just restarted the whole thing, really, yeah, so it's a fresh start. This year you're gonna do one more if we do it for like eight person, ten person keeper or just a single season? We don't know.
Speaker 1:We don't know yet we not make it super expensive what would you want to know?
Speaker 2:we're gonna make like to make like 50 bucks.
Speaker 1:All right, I'm down for that. What do you want to?
Speaker 2:do, though Three keepers One keeper, no keepers.
Speaker 1:Do uh, I don't know Do three.
Speaker 2:But we should make it where the person who comes in last place has to do something embarrassing.
Speaker 3:I don't think I'm going to be in it. I'm in three already. You're in three already.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't want to be I used to do so many and I just I know I can't. I can't do it anymore.
Speaker 1:I'm into I lost last year because I was in too many.
Speaker 2:I should have been in the championship no, I think we were kind of over it no, I was doing really good.
Speaker 1:I know you were, but I'm saying like I think we were over fantasy, maybe at that point, maybe because we I don't know softball took over too that's what it was.
Speaker 2:Softball kind of killed it, because it kind of fucked me too Winning a championship. You know, it kind of fucked me too Lifting a five-foot trophy.
Speaker 1:Kind of took it over. But you know, yeah Too much fun. All right, so let's get into some fantasy players.
Speaker 2:I'm nervous for this year.
Speaker 1:For what? For this year? For what softball? Yeah, I know, but we'll get there, we'll be all right. We got the team. They just gotta, just gotta come together, all right. So fantasy drafts kyle, I know you didn't do any yet I haven't done. I haven't done one yet either you're the rookie draft. Just the rookies who'd you get um, I got. I got xavier wood worthy yeah because I didn't pick him. Thank you, I appreciate you. I got Justin Thomas, justin Thomas, no. Justin Ross, no Thomas.
Speaker 2:Jr Michael Thomas, Michael Thomas oh.
Speaker 1:Brian Thomas Jr. Brian Thomas Jr From the Jags.
Speaker 2:The number one, the.
Speaker 3:Jaguars, Damn, you're pissed. He took him right. No.
Speaker 2:Not fantasy-wise. No.
Speaker 1:Not yet, at least.
Speaker 2:I would have picked him. He's going to be upset soon. Oh yeah, it's good for Dynasty low-key.
Speaker 3:You don't know, maybe now.
Speaker 2:I don't know who I picked for my second pick. How do you?
Speaker 1:not know. Your second pick. My first round, I picked.
Speaker 2:Ladd McConkie over Xavier Worthy. I think that's going to pan out for me.
Speaker 1:I mean it might, but I have Patrick Mahomes throw my guy the ball.
Speaker 2:Well, well, that's my thing. I think that's why I didn't.
Speaker 3:I think I'm okay no, because patrick mahomes just throws it to anyone yeah good, well no, but if not good, you give him the fastest receiver. I don't know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like to ever see the field okay that's. He's like john ross v2 oh, and you know who I picked up, actually in the next round, because he was. You can pick up free agents also yeah I picked up jalen tolbert in the third.
Speaker 2:Because he was in the yeah, but he's going to put on Michael Gallup numbers.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, that's good, because when Michael Gallup was healthy, it was good. Dude, cd is going to get so much freaking double coverage this year. It's unbelievable, brandon.
Speaker 2:Cooks is a good late rounder. This year.
Speaker 1:For anyone who's wondering I get it. I got to see who I pick. Did a keeper. Oh, I got a Donnie.
Speaker 4:Mitchell in the second.
Speaker 3:I don't know he's on the Chargers right no he's on the Colts. Who's the receiver that went to the Chargers?
Speaker 2:Vlad McConkie.
Speaker 3:Oh, right, right, he's the white guy, I think somebody else too, actually. Yeah, that Quinton Johnson from last year. He's a bust. He sucks Mitchell's shaky. I don't know.
Speaker 2:I like Mitchell and I'm a Jags fan.
Speaker 3:That's what's kind of fun, you call it a touchdown in preseason.
Speaker 2:It's not even that I just Kyle.
Speaker 1:everybody makes a touchdown in preseason.
Speaker 2:I hate preseason.
Speaker 3:Not everyone I hate it too.
Speaker 4:I haven't watched one game yet. I should just have private scrimmages. I hate it.
Speaker 1:It's a waste.
Speaker 2:It blue balls you.
Speaker 1:I don't even watch it, but I don't want to watch Other shitty players play.
Speaker 2:I do Not. The shitty one Like once in the first half. It's done, I'm done, oh family topic.
Speaker 1:Right now we don't have Sunday Ticket.
Speaker 2:Oh, we don't.
Speaker 1:No, mom said, nobody watches it. What?
Speaker 2:We literally, every single person.
Speaker 1:We had issues streaming it Because so many of us Were watching it.
Speaker 3:You know what?
Speaker 1:happened. We had to up it to the 4K package so we can get extra things.
Speaker 3:Every Sunday I have Red Zone on the big.
Speaker 2:TV. I had the quad boxes bro how much is the whole package?
Speaker 1:I think it's like $1.99 for the year or something For the best package we can all watch. We already have that package.
Speaker 2:Oh. We just need to add the sunday ticket pack on why?
Speaker 1:because it's every year you have to renew sunday ticket oh yeah, we got to renew that yeah she said no, she says your brothers don't watch it.
Speaker 3:Yeah do we all? I'm the one that asked, you know, I'm the one that asked for it, right like two years ago okay.
Speaker 1:Well, can you ask again? Yeah, because we show. I'll just try when I get back, because I'm gonna be pissed I meant to text you guys, I was dying, I'm gonna be pissed? No, but there's no cheap option. We already have the tv.
Speaker 4:You know the whole youtube subscription set up we all can do it with separate houses are set up, tv is great, it's fantastic.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it's great. But but then the quad boxes, like you watch four different games, like no's not even that.
Speaker 2:I'll just turn on Red Zone. Yeah, I do Red Zone, but I need to watch the Jags play, just like you need to watch the Cavaliers play.
Speaker 3:When they're on, they get the right. But you know what I do? I have Red Zone on one TV and then the Steeler game on the other. I can't even do that.
Speaker 2:I need to. So with me, with football, I like, like to watch each like I like to go really into it like I like.
Speaker 1:I like to see what the offensive coordinator is doing, like, why we're fucking up. I like to learn you're talking about for your team, though, yes, not every team.
Speaker 3:I can't do that my brain, I have red zone for fantasy I know, but I'm I.
Speaker 2:I hear you, you're doing this commercial break, you know no not double box. I have two tvs going oh, I hear you, yeah, doubles down no see me cowboys.
Speaker 1:Get their own tv, no matter what nothing else is on, but when they're not, I have the quad box. But the quad box, the top left box, is red zone, so I can watch red zone and I can watch three other games that I might have players something playing.
Speaker 3:I feel like it's too small, though no Get a bigger TV bro, what inch is that?
Speaker 1:70. I don't have the cha-ching ready.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry I'm making a pause button, but yeah, we need that.
Speaker 1:So can you guys please work this out with mom, please when you guys get back to the house? Please, thank you, because it's almost there and I don't want to cry.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay, thanks, appreciate it next week, what do?
Speaker 1:we got.
Speaker 3:It starts now, uh, two weeks, two weeks dying.
Speaker 2:It's always this time of year. It's so long. Yeah, it sucks. The only good part is college football like it.
Speaker 1:You guys aren't going to the game, so well, not the one, not the first one let's say yes, yeah, rucker's playing the second one.
Speaker 2:One game out of the whole year.
Speaker 3:You gotta get drunk wait, when are they first away?
Speaker 1:third week sean, why don't you just go tailgating with us?
Speaker 2:that's what we do, yeah, no because remember, like the second time we went or whatever, that was fun but one time you passed out and you know that was yeah, that was fun to me that was maryland.
Speaker 4:Yes, but, that was also what I was on my cog career my call of duty career that was.
Speaker 3:That was also what I was on my Cod career, my Call of Duty career. That was fun. I'm over that. I had fun.
Speaker 2:But, that I had. I was.
Speaker 3:That was a great game, I was shot.
Speaker 1:I played like three tournaments. That was the downpour, wasn't the downpour? We all went into the arcade and watched. And then you and Austin came back early.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, some people stayed till I woke up.
Speaker 3:When you guys came back in, I stayed like an extra 15 minutes and then I'm like all right, I'm just going to go.
Speaker 1:No, it was beat the ring sucks.
Speaker 2:No, but there was one game me and you both got when I got the seat cushion.
Speaker 1:Oh, when you acquired, acquired a seat cushion From a store. Yeah, it was more on hammer. That was fun, this guy's hammered we're like we're shopping.
Speaker 4:I was not all right, he was beyond I was because you were hammered.
Speaker 1:I was beyond buzz between buzz and hammered.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, yeah, I would say that I don't know functional, drunk and function. I don't know if he was functional. I was definitely kyle.
Speaker 1:He walks into the store. Should we say this?
Speaker 2:I don't know, I didn't do it. It's the's tipsy and Buzz the same thing, no.
Speaker 1:I don't think so.
Speaker 2:I think, so you were tipsy though no, no, no, I think Buzz is the lowest Buzz is when you start to feel it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You start to feel it Then tipsy is when you start like your motions and pretty in. We were it was pretty, pretty engaged but I got, like most of the people with us, pretty like I was doing tequila, tequila shots. Was that the? Ticklebacks yes, tequila and tickleback.
Speaker 3:Oh man, I was getting everyone a little riled up what I said nickelback it's only fun when everyone else is getting well, that's what it is.
Speaker 1:That's what it is.
Speaker 2:I don't like being the only one riled up because then I'm the only like drunk asshole. Yeah, you're like.
Speaker 3:You're like screaming when everyone's staring at you like what the hell's wrong with this?
Speaker 1:guy, that's the wrong team, yeah yeah wrong team guy sit down, dude it was that I actually no, I was
Speaker 2:drunk. I was drunk. I remember that actually. Yeah, that was fun as fuck. That was the best game I went to.
Speaker 1:That was good wait, what game was that, though? Who was playing? I don't remember.
Speaker 3:But we won, we went to we won.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was my first year working there.
Speaker 2:Chase young right, yeah, yeah it was um dude that was northwestern it was a purple team, right it? Was northwestern.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was a fun game yeah, that was my first records game too wait who.
Speaker 3:They had somebody else. What was their first?
Speaker 1:Rutgers Chase, young. Yeah, cold. Who was the running back? Wait, they had a running back. It wasn't Zeke. He was the year before. It was right after Zeke. Ohio State right Yep oh man, I'm trying to think the quarterback was pretty good too, though.
Speaker 4:Justin Fields no, it wasn't it was Dwayne Haskins right.
Speaker 3:I wasn't at the game, but I'm pretty sure it was Dwayne Haskins. Yeah, no, it was. It was Dwayne Haskins. Damn, it was right before.
Speaker 1:Justin Fields. Wait, there was a running back though too.
Speaker 2:Oh, so when Dwayne Haskins played.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Chase Young.
Speaker 3:That was the class. Yes, you're right, destroyed us. When was that 2021?
Speaker 1:they got drafted. Yeah, it had to be right. Was it 2021? Maybe.
Speaker 2:It was before that. No, it was before COVID, it was before.
Speaker 1:COVID, it was 19.
Speaker 2:18, maybe.
Speaker 1:No, it was 19. It was 19. That's the year it started, I'm. He was pretty solid.
Speaker 2:In the NFL. Yeah, really.
Speaker 3:I don't remember after Zeke.
Speaker 2:I don't remember Zeke.
Speaker 1:JK Dobbins.
Speaker 2:Oh fire, yeah, it was solid.
Speaker 1:Jk Dobbins yeah, he's fire, it was Justin Fields.
Speaker 2:It was Justin JK Dobbins.
Speaker 3:No, dwayne Haskins. Oh yeah, d Dwayne Haskins.
Speaker 2:Says 2019-20 roster I know, but I promise you guys said Dwayne Haskins. I'm pretty sure. Yeah, I thought it was Dwayne Haskins. He could have been on the roster. But who started? Jeff Okuda, Okuda Okuda.
Speaker 1:Justin Fields starting quarterback. Oh, you guys saw Justin Fields.
Speaker 2:Chris Alave, no that wasn't the year 2019.
Speaker 1:I'm looking at it Go 2018-19.
Speaker 2:You're probably in the 2019. Oh, we got to get tickets for the Cowboys game. Oh, 18-19.
Speaker 1:You're probably right, my bad on that one.
Speaker 3:We got to get tickets for the Cowboys game, because that's week five. Oh my God, that's so fast.
Speaker 2:So Chris Olave was still there.
Speaker 1:JK Dobbins, okuda, chase Young. Oh, so you still saw everyone Besides.
Speaker 2:Justin Fields.
Speaker 1:Dwayne Haskins. It was Dwayne Haskins. That's tough, still cool.
Speaker 3:He was on the team, though he was probably Damn two Steelers quarterbacks. It's crazy.
Speaker 2:Dwayne Haskins was a Steeler yeah Before he.
Speaker 1:No, he wasn't on that roster.
Speaker 2:What's his face?
Speaker 1:Nope, they're backup quarterbacks. I can't even pronounce either one of their names.
Speaker 3:Wait, Justin Fields wasn't on Nope.
Speaker 2:Wasn't CJ Stroud also on Ohio.
Speaker 3:State.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for a year yeah.
Speaker 3:That was probably the next year, the year after yeah. He only went for a year. I think, though, oh the year after Something like that, he he went for a year All right.
Speaker 1:So rookie draft wise we were talking yeah. Yeah, so what steals are out there? So running backs, I mean For rookie draft or no, in general. Rookie, running backs, oh rookie running backs. Who's that? I think it's terrible.
Speaker 3:Well wait, there's the one guy.
Speaker 1:Who is it? Blake Corum. The guy from Went to him the guy went to the panthers.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, um jonathan brooks yeah, oh yeah, he's gonna be good. He's the guy's the cowboy.
Speaker 1:I'm so upset no, he's not gonna be good, because he's on terrible dude, I am so upset the cowboys like solidified their line again like they're starting to build up again, and then we don't do they?
Speaker 3:might have the worst record again this year the pan no, I don't think so.
Speaker 2:I don't think it'll be the worst, I think they got a lot of talent now but I think they got worse they have no old line, they have their defense got worse uh their best corner and their best defensive lineman yeah, but they have brian burns they lost, burns and dante jackson.
Speaker 3:They got deontay johnson now, so they got a little better of a receiver no, and they got xavier leggett.
Speaker 4:Who's the?
Speaker 3:number two x, xavier Leggett oh.
Speaker 2:Rookie receiver. He's nice, I don't know man, they definitely got better.
Speaker 3:They got Bingo.
Speaker 1:Jonathan Bingo. Bingo's there again.
Speaker 2:And. Thielen no, thielen's still there. And then they got Miles Sanders and Jonathan Brooks.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but their's going to be a bad side.
Speaker 3:Bryson was getting sacked left and right yeah felt bad for him.
Speaker 2:What's the problem? Well, dude, same thing with all Royals. The best situation for a rookie quarterback to go in ever in NFL history is Caleb Williams.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Even though their O-line isn't the best. Him or no? No, even CJ wasn't bad.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was you think, yeah, it was bad. Cj made something out of nothing and I hate the Texans.
Speaker 3:He surprised everyone, everyone thought he was going to be a bust. Including me Are the Texans a.
Speaker 4:Super Bowl contending team. You think this year they could. Yes, because their team got better.
Speaker 3:Think about it. They got Diggs and Mixon now added on the offense yes, 100% yes. I think they're going to be a huge threat. I hope they beat the Chiefs I don't know about.
Speaker 1:Super Bowl contender, but playoff contender easily. Well, they were last year, technically.
Speaker 2:We're going to win the AFC South.
Speaker 3:They won the wild card right last year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they beat us out because we lost to the Colts. No, they beat the Browns right.
Speaker 1:No, but they beat yeah, oh right, they lost over yeah, that stuff you lost to Minshew.
Speaker 2:Right, we're going to win the division this year To Minshew, you guys.
Speaker 3:Minshew man. Yeah, damn. Now he's on the Raiders, starting. It's official. Yeah, oh, what about o'connell?
Speaker 2:yeah, he's starting now.
Speaker 3:Wow, that's nice was he a rookie last year, o'connell, or the year before? Oh yeah, what route was he like?
Speaker 2:four, if we run through real fast four, five, six.
Speaker 1:Let's see I'm gonna run through where everybody predicts people to be sleepers like braylon edward um edwards throwback.
Speaker 2:Braylon Edwards.
Speaker 1:Braylon Edwards Throwback.
Speaker 2:Braylon Allen Rookie running back for the Jets. If Brees Hall gets injured, he's going to get all the carries. Who's the other? Who'd they get?
Speaker 3:Who the Jets?
Speaker 2:No, I'm saying the running back. Who's the first running back? Or the?
Speaker 3:second running back. What was his name?
Speaker 2:Braylon, edwards or Allen, I keep saying Edwards.
Speaker 3:I think we had something right last year something white or something zamir white or something yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2:He's the third stringer, but then michael carter didn't he do good, yeah, but like all of them had a like a two-game spin where they did good so you want, so you want to know carter's not on the team anymore, is he?
Speaker 3:no, I don't know where he is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's no way he's on the team like three years, for 2024. Everybody has panthers at the bottom yeah, followed by the patriots yeah broncos giants.
Speaker 3:Yeah, commanders I don't think.
Speaker 1:I think the commanders are going to be better I think they're going to be a little better than well, actually, that now they don't have receivers, they don't have a number two.
Speaker 3:now, that was a stupid trade.
Speaker 1:All right. So who else do we have for? Does any of the rookies really stand out?
Speaker 2:Me. Yeah, besides Ladd McConkie Dude, I was going to say besides Wes Welker, think of Justin Herbert's targets. Go Both of you. I don't know who he has anymore.
Speaker 1:He lost Mike Williams Quinn.
Speaker 2:Johnson who sucks.
Speaker 3:TJ.
Speaker 2:Chark, he's on the Chargers. Yeah, oh my.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Ladd-McConkie's getting it. No, they have somebody else, though, I think.
Speaker 2:Ladd-McConkie, no, somebody else. And then you know who I got in the third round. Who's that? Another white slot receiver, ricky Purcell from Florida. Oh God, I'm stacked up the Niners Wow. Brock Purdy's going to do those little two-yard dips to someone, it's true.
Speaker 1:I have Ayuk in our dynasty. Who's the third receiver? Debo Drew, we did that trade, trade and the trade worked out better for you.
Speaker 2:Which one do we get? Remember the Jamar Chase, tyree Kill one.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, dude, Tyree, Kill Savage dude.
Speaker 2:I voted the number one player this year. Who else do you want to give?
Speaker 1:me. We both need a running back, so it's me. We got to find someone to scam.
Speaker 3:You got Najee.
Speaker 1:I got decent. I got Josh Jacobs.
Speaker 2:He's got Najee, I got Chubb, I have Chubb. Chubb killed me. Okay, screw Najee, I have Travis Etienne.
Speaker 3:Well, he splits anyways.
Speaker 1:Travis Etienne shouting he splits now.
Speaker 2:Yeah with Warren. Yeah, God, dude, Dude. They're both really good. My first round pick sucks. That's the problem.
Speaker 4:They're both good.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they're both good. Like Najee sucks I should trade Najee Fantasy wise. Yeah, he's the red zone. Back JK Dobbins, I kept him.
Speaker 1:He's the number two. He's on the Chargers Gus Edwards and JK Dobbins.
Speaker 2:What Gus?
Speaker 1:let's go, are you?
Speaker 2:He's the number one.
Speaker 1:About time we get some respect on his name.
Speaker 3:I just traded actually for Pacheco in my keeper league, Nice. Is that for tomorrow, Smart guy? Well, I needed another keeper Smart guy.
Speaker 2:What did you trade for him? Yeah, that's a good question. A pick, a pick, that's all you can trade really.
Speaker 3:It's like a third round or something, or fourth.
Speaker 2:Fourth yeah, I don't remember it's one or the other.
Speaker 1:Third's a little sketch Now third could be good, depending on who you have.
Speaker 3:Wait, how many can?
Speaker 1:you keep.
Speaker 3:Three. Who are your three? Who are your other two? Ayuk and CJ. You kept Ayuk.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and kept Stroud.
Speaker 3:You kept.
Speaker 4:Ayuk yeah.
Speaker 3:And kept Stroud. I have Pittman, though, too. This is a 10 person. Should I keep Pittman or Ayuk Pittman, you think?
Speaker 1:Can you not keep people like good people? Like you know, some ways you can't get people drafted in the top three rounds. You can't pick them. Yeah, whatever those are your best players in the team.
Speaker 4:Yeah, my team is terrible.
Speaker 3:Okay, all right, just making sure we're on the same page. I did some trades last year. I'm a little confused. Yeah, my team is.
Speaker 2:That's terrible damn so I didn't even finish in last. So are you, pitman and pacheco, or one, two, three?
Speaker 3:yeah, jesus. Well, no, cj shroud too I could keep.
Speaker 1:I mean, I would keep shroud.
Speaker 3:Actually that makes sense because that's a quarterback out of the way, and it's between Ayuk or Pittman.
Speaker 2:Good lord, is Ayuk getting a deal done?
Speaker 3:So now Washington's in trade talks. Now they're saying that's sketch. She goes to Washington, though.
Speaker 2:I don't think Jaden McDaniels is good Dude. What I know. Everyone hates on me for hating on that, but I don't.
Speaker 4:And Washington's known to not have.
Speaker 2:When's the last time they had a good quarterback? Yeah, but they have an offense.
Speaker 1:RG3. They let him get killed Exactly For more than two years. Dwayne Haskins went there.
Speaker 3:Wait, no, they had somebody else. Alex Smith no, that was on the Steelers.
Speaker 2:He broke his leg in half. No, but I'm just saying the players they picked, yeah, he was good until they let the players get beat man. Dude, can we be real?
Speaker 1:What was the last time Kirk Cousins, kirk Cousins came from there?
Speaker 2:Okay, and he left immediately After he found out he could get.
Speaker 1:What did he say? How do you like me now Is Morgan, no, you like that. You like that.
Speaker 3:That's it Morgan Moses.
Speaker 1:He's 40.
Speaker 3:He's retired, he's bad.
Speaker 2:Brandon Scherf.
Speaker 4:He's on the Jags now, trent.
Speaker 3:Williams. He's on the Niners and he's still, he's 40 and he's still one of the best tackles.
Speaker 2:He's the best I know, tristan Werfs, and then I put him at two Tyrone Smith's on the Jets.
Speaker 1:I know why did he not retire? Why did he go to the Jersey? He's still good, though I don't know he's following.
Speaker 3:Isn't he still good, though he's been injured?
Speaker 2:a lot and he's started holding a lot the past couple years. You drop your kid off at school. You see frickin' Tyrone Smith, You're like what Isn't Zach Martin old now?
Speaker 4:Isn't that crazy.
Speaker 3:Who? Zach Martin's old.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but he's been top three guard in the league his whole career.
Speaker 3:But I remember when he was going to be a Hall of Famer. Remember, yeah, dude.
Speaker 1:I remember the Cowboys. Why? Because they can't get the ship right, yeah.
Speaker 3:So messed up. I remember when they first drafted Zeke at O-line.
Speaker 1:Or with DeMarco Murray, demarco.
Speaker 3:Murray, dude, travis, frederick.
Speaker 2:I'll never forget the meme. I can name the whole team. I'll never forget the meme. He was the worst one.
Speaker 1:I hated him. After it was the beginning of the next season and it was all five linemen walking and there's a caption that said let's go make somebody else great, or something like that. Let's go make another one's career and then zeke happened, and then zeke happened, of course, and he got two russian titles with them would have had three, but he got suspended.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but that was like where'd zeke go after, uh, the patriots, right after the cowboys yep, now he's back, now he's back, yeah so for cheap, yeah, no, no, not cheap.
Speaker 1:Cowboys still paying his original salary.
Speaker 2:Oh really, yeah, is he starting what? Yeah, he's number one. Yeah, he's number one.
Speaker 3:Well, yeah and dowdle dude, I think, I think he's gonna get a thousand yards, that was not meant to start, he might I don't know why not tp's on the titans. Now right, yeah, tp titans, yeah the.
Speaker 2:Titans have a good team. They have Dehop and Calvin Ridley. Wait, who's their quarterback? Will Levis People hate?
Speaker 1:him.
Speaker 2:No, I'm telling you, I'm telling you.
Speaker 1:I mean, he's got weapons. Now Will Levis has a freaking arm.
Speaker 2:Now there's no excuse. I think there really, but I'm telling you, Will Levis is not to be fucked around. We'll see, wow, all right. Well, I'm telling you, we'll find out soon you will Couple weeks.
Speaker 3:I hate two weeks.
Speaker 1:Tennessee.
Speaker 3:Football coming sooner man.
Speaker 4:It could I know.
Speaker 1:It could. It's called preseason and you can watch a bunch of nobodies that are going to make the team Run around like a bunch of idiots yeah.
Speaker 3:I don't want to see freaking.
Speaker 2:I can't stand it, your fourth stringers.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't want to see Quez Watkins catch a four-yard pass.
Speaker 2:Why Is?
Speaker 3:he on your team? Yeah, he's like our fourth receiver. He is your fourth, wow, yeah. And Van Jefferson is our second receiver. I used to like Jaquiz Rogers. You, I heard. I'm sorry for you. What team was he in?
Speaker 1:I think it was the Chiefs.
Speaker 2:No, yeah, he's running back for the Chiefs. Wait, who Could be right?
Speaker 1:Jaquiz Rogers. I drafted one of my leagues.
Speaker 2:I don't even know who. That is the worst thing ever.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:I don't even know who that is In one of my dynasty leagues.
Speaker 1:I'm like, dude, you name your kid, ja, it's your quiz. Yeah, um, what else? So something we've been putting off and we have 20 minutes to make this shit in our show labels in sports. Okay, because this gets heated and I love it. So we've been going back and forth for a while now about different names. So generational talent uh, what's a goat and what's the definition of washed? And rinsed well rinsed sean made up oh, so now you're in.
Speaker 2:Now he's in on rinsed dude, there needs to be a term I think everyone in the world can agree. I agree that's in sports needs like well. No, you know what the issue is. Everyone has a different label for washed try to my definition of washed is the.
Speaker 3:The best years are behind you, but you could still play not at that level, yeah, but like lebron, james isn't washed though. No, he is how so this is the problem, because he's not doing what he did when he won mvp.
Speaker 2:He just won the mvp of the olympics. How does that?
Speaker 1:not MVP of the Olympics? How does that not count?
Speaker 2:Well, that should have been Steph Curry.
Speaker 1:Not one game. Steph Curry single-handedly won the whole thing. Yeah, but he did the whole tournament.
Speaker 3:That's easy for him, because no one's his size, yeah, but they took a vote.
Speaker 4:It's LeBron. He's the best player of all time.
Speaker 3:They took a vote on the— I 14 lebron play than now yeah I agree with that too, but but still top everyone, obviously but for his standard, for the goat he's, you can't it's not washed everyone on the olympic, he's watered down everyone on the olympic team.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'd agree with that, yeah but, all we have is washed, and that's my term of wash. I hear you, but wash has to go. You you're not doing what you did in previous years, but you're still good to the'm not putting him through the cycle.
Speaker 3:Everyone on the Olympic team voted that he was the best player at that time. I'm just saying I'm just throwing it out there, okay, yeah, you have to freaking meet Succle. Brown, james, he's not washed.
Speaker 2:He's not spot on the team no he's not washed, derek. White got on the damn team dude.
Speaker 3:The olympics is kind of like I'm just the reserve players are a joke, I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 1:Well, look at halliburton. He never he got a gold medal never. Guess who he voted for look at, tatum didn't play.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that has to be the sickest thing tatum didn't play in one of the biggest games. Get to watch everyone play. You get to watch, you get to see lebron and curry and you get a gold medal.
Speaker 3:But tatum just won a championship and then didn't play in the second to last game. Okay, that's another thing too.
Speaker 1:I mean it's a lot of talent. But yeah, I understand you got to go with vibes.
Speaker 2:The fact that we didn't blow out every team by like 100 is insane.
Speaker 3:Personally, yeah, there's a couple close calls too. Yeah, but like you got to like think, like every team is coming to like play.
Speaker 1:Like you know what? Yeah, of course they're going to play their best ball they've ever played, ever in their life.
Speaker 3:Great, but we have the best team ever assembled on one team. They're the dream team. Every year, every four years, yeah, but it's just so many stars on one team. No, they haven't been.
Speaker 1:Well, they haven't been showing up but I don't know how.
Speaker 2:Now, since LeBron said he's playing.
Speaker 3:But it's so many stars on one team that it's hard to work together.
Speaker 2:Yeah, of course, because it's the game of basketball at the end of the day. But back to football.
Speaker 1:Oh no, watch, no, just in general Watch. Okay, so when?
Speaker 2:Peyton Manning won on the Broncos. He was watched.
Speaker 1:I would agree, yeah, no, yeah, yeah he won a Super. Bowl, though I agree.
Speaker 3:His defense won the Super.
Speaker 1:Bowl Come up essentially.
Speaker 2:I was like, not his come up but his cherry on the top.
Speaker 3:No, they had the best team in that season.
Speaker 1:He didn't have to be old school gunslinging Peyton, but he still had to do what he had to do to get to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2:No, he did, I'm pretty sure he put up over 31 points in one of the playoff games 31 points to 31 points.
Speaker 1:No, but that was definitely.
Speaker 2:Who's games?
Speaker 4:31 points to 31 points. No, but that was definitely running back definitely he should not.
Speaker 1:Cj Anderson. Oh yeah, cj Anderson, I don't think. No, sean was on it for that one. It was two names Anderson and somebody else. Oh yeah, royce Freeman. No, he was after. I don't remember, but I agree with that because he literally retired. Ronnie retired the next day.
Speaker 1:Yes, that's he legit retired. That was it because he was done. He literally was done. He knew it. Patrick, who pisses me off was Tom Brady. When he won, he just won with the Patriots and then you leave and you win with the Buccaneers. Dude, he should have been done, yeah, but he was washed.
Speaker 3:After he won with the Buccaneers.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't give him total wash 31 with the Buccaneers.
Speaker 4:I wouldn't give him total wash, no, but you can't say that though.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't give him full wash After coming off of any.
Speaker 1:I had him in my fantasy.
Speaker 2:He was still a top fantasy quarterback.
Speaker 1:Yeah Was he, yes I had him.
Speaker 2:That's pretty crazy, but any Yo that's fantasy though.
Speaker 1:But that's his personal stats.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying essentially yeah, it's his stats given, given value that's all.
Speaker 1:But I don't know, bro, because I'm just saying so to my definition of washed is someone that's just they're still playing, but they shouldn't be at all.
Speaker 4:Yeah no, no, they just shouldn't be playing.
Speaker 1:That's what I agree like you're playing but, like you're still good. But you.
Speaker 3:Like Vince Carter when he was 40 years old.
Speaker 1:Odell.
Speaker 2:Beckham right now is washed.
Speaker 4:Well, maybe I would say maybe no, he's washed, he's just injured. I don't know, I can't.
Speaker 3:His injury's caught up to him.
Speaker 1:He's a hard player to judge because of how non-playing he's played. That's tough, but yeah, probably. But that's my thing. Walsh, to me, is someone that's still playing. Maybe they shouldn't be, or maybe they're still good, they're not at the bottom of the barrel.
Speaker 2:What about Keenan Allen?
Speaker 3:Calais Campbell is Walsh, I don't even think he's in the league.
Speaker 4:No, he is. Yeah, he should be retired?
Speaker 3:He's not even.
Speaker 1:Walsh.
Speaker 4:He should be retired.
Speaker 1:But that's Walsh, great player, and now he's nothing. Wash, you can still play well, yeah. So I'm saying, but now he's nothing like he can still play, but he's not.
Speaker 2:Oh, no, no, no, there's a difference between you should be retired and like you could still play. Like colias campbell cannot still play, let's be like he can well if he's on the team.
Speaker 3:I'm trying to think I'm trying to think of somebody okay, but like he shouldn't.
Speaker 2:Be all right, he's washed.
Speaker 1:Nah, that's like you're done that's my definition of wash, though, too, that's what I'm saying you're pretty much done. You're on your way out like this is it for you?
Speaker 2:so what do you call someone that's not putting up their numbers, and why?
Speaker 1:see this the problem.
Speaker 3:Like lebron, I don't think he's washed like kobe his last two years, no, but like okay let's talk about players now but lebron, right okay, he's been the top player, top two, three players for years.
Speaker 1:Right okay, now he's like the top nine, ten, let's.
Speaker 3:Let's say I think he's top five.
Speaker 2:Personally, I don't think five, I don't think five I I'll give him a second number one player a good amount okay, so what is he now?
Speaker 1:not as good as he, but he's still a top 10 player.
Speaker 2:That's amazing. He's been around the cycle. He's out of his prime?
Speaker 1:No, he's around the cycle.
Speaker 2:He's still at the top. No, he's out of his prime. He's not at the peak. You're the best of all time, though we're saying LeBron James.
Speaker 1:He's the greatest player of all time. But I'm saying with everybody else lebron james.
Speaker 2:But what about a player who's average and then goes to being not good at all?
Speaker 1:they're called.
Speaker 2:Never was no you gotta have those players that were there has to be other names.
Speaker 1:I'm telling you I don't know sports world needs to figure out another name, like water down, someone that just they're still playing but they're not where they used to be there's just no good name to me washed is just you've, you're done you're.
Speaker 4:You're on your way out, you're on the decline.
Speaker 1:You're not top of your game anymore, like other players are surpassing you I agree with wash being on the decline. Yeah, yeah, but like not like you could still, but not a gradual, not like a gradual, like a slow decline, like lebron is still at the top of his game, like not his personal game but he's five but he's still in the top 10. At least some people argue less dude I'm trying to mba like you can't be washed if you're a top 10 player.
Speaker 3:All right, joe flack was washed, yeah he's washed yeah he's, but he could still play, but like he's he's a backup quarterback right that's washed yeah, that's why.
Speaker 4:So let's, that's a wash.
Speaker 2:Let's get lebron out of the conversation okay, talk about a goat.
Speaker 3:We need to to think of a good example, right now, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's hard.
Speaker 2:No, not Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 1:No, he does weird things.
Speaker 2:I'm trying to think.
Speaker 1:Aaron Rodgers, that's a tough one, he's not washed. See, I a tough one, he's not washed. No see, that's why I said it.
Speaker 4:I don't think he's washed. Yes, I found one, he's not he's gonna win an mvp?
Speaker 2:no, obviously he's not as good as what he used to be, but he could still play at a high level, though, because it's aaron rogers, the hall of famer, right, but he's not.
Speaker 3:Washed dude washes he's just out of his prime.
Speaker 1:It's what he is he's wise when you're out of your prime, you're washed. What do you call it? Aged?
Speaker 4:he could still ball out he could still ball, but he's not gonna do what he did on the back
Speaker 1:like trash, but that's what I'm saying. That's my definition yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but it's not. But he's not trash they're not trash, you're just trash.
Speaker 2:You're not washed, you're just trash, wash. Is you guys get what I'm saying?
Speaker 3:No, I know what you mean, but I don't like it that people use. I don't know.
Speaker 1:So definition of washed yeah. Washed up From the Merriam-Webster Dictionary. Okay, it says someone that is no longer successful, popular or needed.
Speaker 3:Or has been. Yeah, that's another word for it.
Speaker 1:Mm. It can also mean that someone has no chance of being successful in the future. For example, you might describe an athlete, actor or singer as washed up if they are no longer skillful or popular. That's very interesting. That's the way I felt, this is the way I see it. They're no longer successful and you can't put that with these people. If you're a starting quarterback in the NFL, russell Wilson, washed that's quarterback in the NFL, russell Wilson.
Speaker 3:Washed, that's a good one. He's washed, that's a good one.
Speaker 2:He could still play on the bottom tier teams, but he's not going to go out and win you a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1:Correct. I agree with that. That's a good one.
Speaker 3:So we're agreeing with me. No, I agree with Russell Wilson. I agree.
Speaker 2:So we're agreeing with me Aaron Rodgers is washed. It's Aaron Rodgers level of washed, though.
Speaker 1:Aaron Rodgers can still be a top ten quarterback, though, dude.
Speaker 2:Okay, but he used to be top three every year.
Speaker 1:He's not performing at that level. So he's washed, yeah, but he's still at a high level. You guys are just trying to defend what I'm doing. No, but he's still at a high level.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because it's Aaron Rodgers I'm talking about in general who it is.
Speaker 1:It's him. Okay, russell Wilson, he's not going to be top 10. I agree with you he's going to be, in the 25 and under category. I agree with you.
Speaker 2:You guys are saying, if you're in top 10, regardless of if you were one for earlier in your career, you're washed you're not as good as you once was right okay, that's it yeah that's what washed is no. A t-shirt fresh out of the pack, brand new.
Speaker 1:If you wash it a few times, it's still good fuck the dictionary no, you can't. Someone is no longer successful. That's not a sports dictionary. It says an athlete. It it actually says athlete.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God.
Speaker 1:If they're no longer skillful or popular. They're still skillful, though correct.
Speaker 2:It says no longer skillful or popular, but bro, washed is not used, washed is your foot's out the door, bro, I'm telling you right now.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I agree, you're on your way of retiring Russell.
Speaker 2:Wilson is done. He, you're on your way of retiring Russell Wilson is done.
Speaker 1:He's done. This is definitely his last year in the NFL. Yeah, A hundred percent no.
Speaker 3:I wouldn't say his last year.
Speaker 1:Oh God, I think he played one more. Okay, he'll be back up for Justin.
Speaker 2:Fields no maybe one or two.
Speaker 1:He will not complete this season, he'll retire once it's over, Like once he's not starting he could.
Speaker 4:They're not going to sit on, justin.
Speaker 1:Fields more than a year.
Speaker 2:I think he's going to play this season.
Speaker 3:No, but I'm saying Russell.
Speaker 1:He's going behind Dak, who has been a top quarterback every year.
Speaker 3:Russell Wilson could be a backup, though for a team the following season. He could be a backup, yes, but I don't think he's going to be he's not going to be a Joe Flacco.
Speaker 1:Russell Wilson is involved in a lot of stuff. He wants to be the star. He's married to a celebrity.
Speaker 2:They like traveling, they have kids. He's not washed, watson's washed.
Speaker 1:No, he's not washed. That dude just is in trouble.
Speaker 2:He hasn't been in trouble in a minute.
Speaker 1:Dude, he's a mess I don't want to say he's washed yet I don't want to rule him out yet. Yeah, he's washed, yet I don't want to rule him out yet he's washed, I don't know. Yet I need one more season with him.
Speaker 3:They had a full season with him.
Speaker 1:He's a full season. They had a chance to build around him.
Speaker 4:He wasn't in training camp last year. He missed the first six games.
Speaker 1:I will give him a shot because what he did with Texans and he was so good, but he needs a shot.
Speaker 3:He didn't have Nick Chubb too, last year too.
Speaker 1:That's true too, yeah.
Speaker 3:Solid running back makes a big difference.
Speaker 1:Absolutely All right, let's do another player then, DeMarco Murray. Was he washed when he left the Cowboys and went to the Eagles?
Speaker 2:He went to the Eagles, but he still wasn't as good, though, because of the system, you can't put that on a player.
Speaker 3:You go from a downhill running. What did he do after he did good on the Titans? The one?
Speaker 2:season he was washed. Yeah, he had over a thousand. All right, that's when Derek.
Speaker 1:Henry was the two. What world was there?
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying here's the two. Here's the second round pick from Alabama. That's crazy.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, yeah, the king.
Speaker 3:Well, because DeMarco Murray was a top dog, and now you put Lamar Jackson and DeMarco Murray on the same team.
Speaker 1:I mean Lamar's washed right.
Speaker 2:He just won MVP. Oh, he did.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he won his second MVP. I was just trying to be a jerk.
Speaker 2:I knew he was going to be good coming out of louisville I don't know.
Speaker 1:There has to be another word, that's, that's, I don't know what it is. I agree, but there's got to be that in between, where a player just isn't performing their best des bryant they're not as good as they used to be, but they're still highly productive, like what does that have to?
Speaker 2:do like his last few years, like before, that's with any player.
Speaker 1:you could say though I mean, that's just a gradual decline.
Speaker 2:You've got to have a good.
Speaker 3:AB.
Speaker 2:No, you can't say that either. No, he was mentally washed.
Speaker 1:His mental health destroyed him.
Speaker 3:Let's be real. Washed him away.
Speaker 4:Yeah washed him away, jesus.
Speaker 1:I know right, there's got to be other people.
Speaker 3:Ooh, now he got old.
Speaker 2:I was going to say Brandon Marshall, no, aging is another factor.
Speaker 3:It is what it is. No, dude, you're just naming randos now. I'm thinking of players that got bad. I don't know, dude.
Speaker 2:Everyone gets bad eventually.
Speaker 3:Out of their prime.
Speaker 1:No, I'm trying to think who's young? You're out of their prime, but no, I'm trying to think like who's?
Speaker 2:young. You're out of your prime, you're washed.
Speaker 3:That's what I think it is good like one or two seasons you're out of your prime, you're like a one-hit wonder.
Speaker 2:That's what aj green had like three good years in his career, josh gordon never, was? I think he was always a beast yeah, just what's the I'm?
Speaker 3:getting suspended. Go to screw you.
Speaker 1:You know who who was. I wouldn't call him wash the cooper cup.
Speaker 2:You can't say that because of injuries. Yeah injuries.
Speaker 1:Injuries ruined the whole conversation in my book yeah, because I just it's not fair.
Speaker 2:I can't really say it's not fair to me. I just feel like they I mean megatron was still at the top of his game and he retired and smart guy, yeah, yeah smart guy.
Speaker 1:He's gonna be in the Hall of Fame, you know who's going to be in the Hall of Fame, and it's going to be the worst day ever, eli, such a terrible quarterback.
Speaker 3:We can't say that.
Speaker 1:Dude, he did nothing. He doesn't even have a winning record, does he not? He's actually 500 In his career. He's not good. How many seasons, 12, who cares? I can't stand him. I just can't stand him. It's just his face, it's just his face and every time an interception is good. No, yeah, it was his face.
Speaker 4:He always mangled his face.
Speaker 2:It was with his helmet. I never liked Eli. No, he always looked confused. Dude, I think his coming into the league. Like I said, you know what, I'm not playing for any other team but the Giants.
Speaker 1:What kind of dick shit is that? You would have went to the Chargers you had.
Speaker 2:LaDainian Tomlinson, antonio Gates.
Speaker 3:Phillip Rivers never won right.
Speaker 1:No, that was the big. Thing. You know who they had before.
Speaker 2:You know who they drafted in the second round. After LaDainian Tomlinson in the first.
Speaker 3:Drew Brees. They drafted in the second round after ladanian thompson. The first drew breeze yeah, they could have had a crazy team and then, they up dude, yeah, dude, antonio gates drew breeze.
Speaker 2:Ladanian thompson dude, could you imagine?
Speaker 1:drew breezes career wasn't, oh my god, I love jubilee's chargers. Yeah, he was.
Speaker 2:He was a good guy, just a great guy man and he won a bowl for them when they just had a hurricane yeah, yeah, they needed it.
Speaker 3:Reggie Bush Injury, damn it. I was going to say David Johnson.
Speaker 1:He's getting excited.
Speaker 3:David Johnson, all right, I thought, but then he got that injury.
Speaker 1:There's definitely more running backs out there, because running backs I feel like.
Speaker 3:Well, look at Zeke now More washed, washed.
Speaker 2:Injury levy on stuff. When he went to the, jessie was washed, yeah when he went to the jets washed I agree with that one, that's a good one.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'm on for that one. Running backs, I think, is so much easier because you can have one hit wonder running backs where they have one season and they're good and then people get high in them, they get their contract extension, they get traded like something big happens you know what a really good one is.
Speaker 2:I don't know if you guys guys are going to remember, though, tyron Matthew when he was on the Cardinals compared to when he went to the Chiefs.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he was a top 5. D-back on the Cardinals Everywhere. What's his name? Marcus Peters.
Speaker 2:He was a beast on the Chiefs.
Speaker 3:He's a beast on Baltimore and on the Chiefs. That's kind of his uprising.
Speaker 1:When he got really good, the Chiefs was where he was starting to gain. No, what team was?
Speaker 2:he on first the Chiefs. Are you sure it wasn't Baltimore? No, he went to Baltimore, yeah, after.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he started the Chiefs. He got drafted by the Chiefs. I'm pretty sure. But I remember him on the Chiefs the most. Yeah, same.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 3:Wasn't he the number two corner too? They had somebody else back in the day. No, I don't remember.
Speaker 2:Now you're just. Saying shit, now you're just killing me.
Speaker 1:Now, kyle, you're just throwing names out there for fun now.
Speaker 2:I don't know. Oh, sean Jeffery, we all agree that there does need to be another word. There has to be another word.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like one hit wonder is good for a running back that has one good year, or there's players that can make one season good, but then they can't do shit.
Speaker 2:I just feel like wash and then you're done if you're done.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I feel like wash is like you're almost done, but there's got to be one more.
Speaker 2:Oh, I hear you Do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:There's the top players. You're at the top, you're goat, status generational, whatever frig you want to call it yeah, and then there's got to be something else where maybe you're not the best player, you're not mvp anymore, but you're still performing at a high level. And then it's like average, I'll be, he's average, he's basic, you know, and then from there it's washed yeah because you were at the top. Now you're no longer at the top and you're just kind of on your way out right, and then there's like retired, or should be fucking retired, no or just trash
Speaker 3:or just trash wash is bad wash, no wash.
Speaker 2:You gotta stick to the player wash is on the d clock no that's what this is you guys are thinking of. Wash is just as a term by itself wash you gotta stick to that player I agree with every player's in their own category I agree with you so aaron rogers, now is washed. Now do you understand more what I'm saying? No, I was, he's not on his way out.
Speaker 1:Yes, he is he?
Speaker 3:got at least he got three more years you got three more years. I get that, but he's still playing at a high level. But I would take him on the cowboys right now but not what he was.
Speaker 2:But who cares If teams would?
Speaker 1:still want him. Why would they not? He's still a top quarterback in the league. I'm just saying I want him still.
Speaker 2:I'm comparing him to his own standards.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, he's washed.
Speaker 2:If you're out of your prime, you're washed.
Speaker 1:Washed means you're no longer useful.
Speaker 2:No, this is what the dictionary said when you wash a t-shirt, it's still useful.
Speaker 1:It's clean now. Okay, so he's clean. He's clean, I want him yeah that's for Aaron Rodgers, of course.
Speaker 2:Alright, so you want to wash Aaron Rodgers, right? Do you want to wash Russell Wilson?
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:No, okay.
Speaker 2:So compare it to the player. It makes perfect sense If they're done, they're done.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't buy it either.
Speaker 1:I think Russell Wilson is washed because.
Speaker 3:I think he's on his way out. No, because he's trashed.
Speaker 1:I think he's on his way out. I think he's done.
Speaker 2:I don't think he's washed, I think he's done. He's done. Midway through the season, justin Fields will take over that seat.
Speaker 1:That's what I think too. No, he can't I agree with that, though I don't think that's why he can't?
Speaker 2:Sean Payton came into the Broncos, built that whole offense around him.
Speaker 3:I just never thought that was every play. I agree, everything really have much help, though.
Speaker 2:Corlin Sutton Jerry.
Speaker 3:Judy.
Speaker 2:That's it.
Speaker 3:I don't like those receiver. I don't think they're that good though I don't think son. I don't think son's a good. Did they train him? Did he go somewhere? Yeah, he's on the browns. I don't think that's right. That's david. I think son's the number two.
Speaker 4:I'm gonna be honest, all these teams are good. It's all going off.
Speaker 2:See, you know the worst rated team in madden was this year. By the way, was that the giants?
Speaker 3:yeah, that makes me feel good you know the panthers were four ratings higher than the giants dude.
Speaker 2:That's crazy, that's crazy actually it shouldn't be that bad. No, that's like a terrible rating because, dude, the giants have good like they have the best d tackle in football, they have dexter lawrence.
Speaker 3:He's the best. Well, you know why their rating was so low.
Speaker 1:Daniel jones was a 71, yeah well, because daniel jones is daniel jones, they decided to pay him over saquon. Guess what?
Speaker 3:you know he's the same overall as Kenny Pickett, or Kenny Pickett might be one higher.
Speaker 2:They could have had such a match. They need to make me a GM for one of these teams.
Speaker 1:Dude, they need to make anybody a GM.
Speaker 2:Imagine building around Malik Navers and Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 1:Dude, it would be over. It would be over.
Speaker 3:I don't think they needed Saquon Barkley, though he's a generational talent. No, he is. Who's not going to?
Speaker 2:put up the stats to claim he's a generational talent. I don't think they need him, though is what I'm saying? He's the athletic they need to build generational talent.
Speaker 1:But he went to the wrong team. Yeah, yeah, yep, the Giants killed him.
Speaker 4:Now he's on the right team actually. Well now, now it's not fair.
Speaker 2:He's going to be the leading rusher. He's the smartest guy ever.
Speaker 1:Howie Rosen is the smartest Dude. That's the smartest. That's the GM you want on your team.
Speaker 3:I feel like just going to a division rival is so he's the best GM.
Speaker 1:But if you're going to a team that's been so hot the past couple of years it's like you, put me on that team. I'd be like dude, I will get you over Well like, give me the ball.
Speaker 2:How are you going to go in the Hall of Fame with GMs? He's the best GM ever. He has to, and whoever the GM of the Chiefs is, andy Reid, essentially.
Speaker 1:Technically right, isn't he like two roles or something? He makes the call. He makes the calls. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but he's in his own category.
Speaker 4:I'd say the Niners GM too Andy Reid, John Lynch.
Speaker 2:What 49ers? Yeah, Good too. Yeah, he's great, he used to play yeah.
Speaker 1:I remember that actually. Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 2:I don't know Andy Reid's, a better head coach than Bill Belichick.
Speaker 3:I would take that that's an argument. It is of course.
Speaker 2:I don't know if I agree with that, it's okay, not to.
Speaker 1:It's okay not to Wait, didn't Andy?
Speaker 3:Reid win on the Eagles too. No.
Speaker 1:No, he went to the Super.
Speaker 3:Bowl.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he never actually won.
Speaker 3:Damn yeah.
Speaker 2:And then he revived Michael Vick's career. That's why I respect him so much. Who?
Speaker 1:was the coach when they won with Foles Doug Peterson.
Speaker 2:Oh, oh, that's right.
Speaker 1:Dougie P.
Speaker 2:I love that guy. And then Chip Kelly came in. I think he's great. Chip Kelly came in before Chip Kelly ruined that franchise, set them back five years he got rid of LaShawn McCoy.
Speaker 3:Remember when he was still good?
Speaker 2:And Deshawn Jackson.
Speaker 1:He was not washed. Oh yeah, that was crazy. That was crazy when he got rid of them.
Speaker 3:And.
Speaker 2:DeSantis when he went to the Bills.
Speaker 3:He was still playing at a very high level.
Speaker 2:He's the best running back statistically in the snow.
Speaker 3:That's wild. Wait, who's the quarterback? Tyrod Taylor.
Speaker 2:For the Bills. Yeah, team mobile Dude, he actually used to be decent Team mobile. That's a throwback.
Speaker 4:That's a good.
Speaker 2:He was solid Tyrod man he floated bro.
Speaker 4:He used to be the most mobile quarterback.
Speaker 3:Hey, teddy hey.
Speaker 1:Teddy, hey, teddy, come to my birthday.
Speaker 3:Where do you go after the Vikings? Who Teddy Bridgewater? Saints, saints, I think the Giants I think he was on Damn I'd suck sometimes.
Speaker 1:I haven't signed a rookie card. That sucks. What do you? He got hurt every year. I felt bad for that guy. He always went to a shit team To get destroyed Tyrod Taylor.
Speaker 3:injuries ruined his career too.
Speaker 1:He's wanted better backups though.
Speaker 2:He's on the Giants. He should be starting, didn't he win?
Speaker 3:them two games last year.
Speaker 2:He will be. He probably had more wins than four. As long as they keep.
Speaker 1:Daniel Jones, I'm the happiest cowboys fan.
Speaker 2:That's what doesn't make sense. It's all good and he's getting paid. Yeah, he's robbing them blind. He already robbed them. Yeah, that's what I'm saying every every season. This is fantastic. I love it, keep, keep playing him, please, unreal, you could just tell when someone got in he threw two picks in preseason. Yeah, four straight, four from fifth. What are we?
Speaker 3:doing One including a pick six. I was in their like on like the 20 yard line.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that was a terrible throw.
Speaker 3:I've seen that. I love him.
Speaker 1:I just don't understand the beard's, not it either.
Speaker 3:The beard does not, I just don't understand gms.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because to me it's like so simple it's so obvious, though, like some of the things are so obvious, but maybe they're just getting overlooked by, because a lot of they probably have to deal with so much shit, not even that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they paid him, they paid him.
Speaker 1:That's the problem.
Speaker 3:I never but like oh my god it wasn't dude, it was literally the coaching.
Speaker 2:For what Saquon's getting paid. I would have paid him, but he's getting paid, the same as DeAndre Swift.
Speaker 3:I think Well, wait who Saquon and Swift.
Speaker 2:You know Derek Henry's getting paid nothing to be on.
Speaker 3:Baltimore.
Speaker 4:Eight mil Eight mil a year, that's a good market, though.
Speaker 1:That's good though. I thought he was getting paid like seven or six Is let's go on market though that's good though Running back is getting paid like seven or six Is he starting?
Speaker 3:Is he starting Derrick Henry? Yeah, oh, okay. Who's going to start over? Jk Dahmer's got trade. What's the charges? Oh, they just got a rookie, like last year. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Keaton Mitchell.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, that's who it is.
Speaker 1:I know, but I'm still Derek Henry, he's washed Run. Pass option with Lamar.
Speaker 2:Jackson, Sean Bateman, Zay Flowers who's the number one? Mark Andrews.
Speaker 3:Wait, who's the other receiver? They have.
Speaker 1:Zay Flowers. I think he's got suspended.
Speaker 3:Zay Flowers, and who? Zay Flowers and Bateman, he's good too, he's quick.
Speaker 2:I'm taking him over Van Jefferson, yeah, but that's not a Like come on really. Well, come on, guy, that's most of the Bateman's, not a number two. Yeah, he is.
Speaker 3:Is he better than Judy?
Speaker 2:That's arguable, that's a good.
Speaker 1:That's a hard one. That's a hard one. What has Jared?
Speaker 3:Judy done Nothing, dubbed nothing.
Speaker 2:Okay, they're still progressing, they're young, he's Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 3:as his quarterback he had Russell.
Speaker 1:Wilson.
Speaker 3:Somebody who's washed and somebody that's not washed.
Speaker 2:Is he washed or can't?
Speaker 3:play anymore or somebody that's in their prime actually.
Speaker 2:Same shit, dude, it's a cycle.
Speaker 3:No, but he can. What time are?
Speaker 4:we at we're over bro.
Speaker 3:Oh shit, we're over, we're not getting under the rug.
Speaker 1:We're over. We can debate more. It's hard. We'll try to find some other cool stuff to do. All right, well, that's episode three. We'll see everybody in like three months, yeah, by the time I get these two back here to do something.
Speaker 2:All right, I'm not even going to say it.
Speaker 1:Don't even say it from his fucking bed last week that was one week man Every other week was him, do you?
Speaker 2:work next Thursday? No, it's the football game, it's a Rutgers home opener. Should we do a podcast outside of the RV.
Speaker 1:We could do it in the.
Speaker 2:RV.
Speaker 3:Well, I'm not going though. What time do you get out of work? Eight maybe, Game's at six. I don't get home until six. 8 maybe Game's at 6.
Speaker 2:I don't get home until 6.
Speaker 3:You guys are washed.
Speaker 2:I am washed.
Speaker 1:I'm hitting the outro button boys Peace.
Speaker 4:See you, guys, thank you.