When faced with a cancer diagnosis, Nelson took a road less traveled, bravely side-stepping conventional treatments in search of healing's true source. His narrative weaves through the possibilities of what might happen if we dared to question the status quo. In our latest episode, he opens up about his transformation after being diagnosed with cancer, further fueling his quest for a holistic approach to health. Nelson's experiences with active surveillance and lifestyle adjustments offer an alternative perspective on managing life-threatening illnesses and challenge the widespread approach to medical care.
Our conversation dances around the theme of longevity, the power of dietary choices, and the art of clean living. This discussion delves into the shortcomings of a healthcare system that's heavily reliant on pharmaceutical solutions and calls for an urgent revision toward prevention. Listeners, prepare to be enlightened as Nelson critiques the lack of nutritional education in the medical field and proposes a more enlightened path to long-term wellness.
Wrapping up the episode, we venture into the realm of alternative health paths and the significance of informed decision-making for a life of quality and vitality. Nelson reveals the challenges posed by the modern food industry and the importance of understanding what truly nourishes our bodies. For our peers in the financial advisory world, Nelson extends an invitation to consider how personal health influences professional efficacy, offering his insights on balancing wellness with client service. Tune in for an episode that's not only about surviving but thriving in every aspect of life.
When faced with a cancer diagnosis, Nelson took a road less traveled, bravely side-stepping conventional treatments in search of healing's true source. His narrative weaves through the possibilities of what might happen if we dared to question the status quo. In our latest episode, he opens up about his transformation after being diagnosed with cancer, further fueling his quest for a holistic approach to health. Nelson's experiences with active surveillance and lifestyle adjustments offer an alternative perspective on managing life-threatening illnesses and challenge the widespread approach to medical care.
Our conversation dances around the theme of longevity, the power of dietary choices, and the art of clean living. This discussion delves into the shortcomings of a healthcare system that's heavily reliant on pharmaceutical solutions and calls for an urgent revision toward prevention. Listeners, prepare to be enlightened as Nelson critiques the lack of nutritional education in the medical field and proposes a more enlightened path to long-term wellness.
Wrapping up the episode, we venture into the realm of alternative health paths and the significance of informed decision-making for a life of quality and vitality. Nelson reveals the challenges posed by the modern food industry and the importance of understanding what truly nourishes our bodies. For our peers in the financial advisory world, Nelson extends an invitation to consider how personal health influences professional efficacy, offering his insights on balancing wellness with client service. Tune in for an episode that's not only about surviving but thriving in every aspect of life.
Today, nelson's gonna talk about his diagnosis with cancer, all that he went through and what he realized when he got diagnosed that he had a choice. His choice was he could go to traditional path, which was to get surgery and have treatment, or he could go another path, the road best followed, a more alternative path. He's gonna talk about that and we're gonna also tie it into how a mindset really works, not just with health, but with everything in light, and potentially taking the road less followed will get you where you need to go much faster and with better results. So with that, nelson, just tell me what happened with your health a number of years back.
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I was like most Americans. I thought I was in a healthy state. I accepted the fact that every winter I would get these upper respiratory infections that would put me out of commission for a month or so Didn't seem to mind my weight filling up each year a couple pounds like most Americans. The problems really started to hit when I was 50 years old. My first episode was about something called pancreatitis, which is these were undiagnosed goldstones that basically trapped my pancreas from working and ended up there in a week in the hospital. I was advised after that to have my goldbladder removed. Nobody told me about changing my diet to not have the issue. So I listened to the doctors immediately and had my goldbladder removed and was fine for the next 10 years until I took a PSA test to determine if I had prostate cancer and was informed that my PSA score had gone up from two, six to three, nine in one year, even though it was born four. That's considered a technically consideration of PSA velocity, which means the change from one year to next buying one out 50%. I was advised to have a prostate biopsy.
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At this point in my life I've never did any medical research so again I went along with the doctor in the white coat and immediately I got my prostate biopsy and a day or two later I woke up with tremendous, unbelievable shivering, something I'd never experienced before in my entire life. I'm told they're called rigors. Later on I ended up one week in intensive care. I went in. I was doing worse every single hour and the hour. My blood pressure was down to something like 65 over 40. And I was diagnosed with something called sepsis shock, which is blood poisoning which basically, one by one, all of your organs shut down. A lot of people went up dying from sepsis. I was lucky I had to a couple of days at the NEPI. I had a guy tried to confess and after a week I was down in the hospital. But what happened was I asked the urologist, because of what happened to me, to inform me ASAP not the way to doctors visit to review the results of biopsy. I really demanded that he call me as soon as he found out. He called me about a week before our appointment and told me if the test was positive.
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I immediately started doing some research on the internet and I was first looking at terms of what would be the best procedure. But the more I studied the subject. The more people I talked to, the more books I started reading. I decided that it was not my best interest to treat my tumor, but rather to find out the root source of my cancer. That was a game changer for me, and I haven't stopped since. For the last 15 years, I've been researching as much as I can on health in general, specifically on cancer, but all aspects of health and well-being. There's not a week that goes by that I do not read at least two books on health. I set up a website which includes two short books that people could read about my experience. I basically sent out a health blog once or twice a week.
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Nelson, let's go back to the initial diagnosis. There's a medical professional sitting in front of you and telling you to go one way, yet you decide and have the mindset to go a completely different way. How do you do that In America?
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there's so much money and energy and we put it into the fact that we should trust with 100% confidence what our physicians tell us to do. This is going to sound very sick on my part, but cancer is really big business. It's a billion-dollar operation and the big farm is involved and there's a lot of key players involved our government's involved. So I'm sitting in front of my urologist with my wife, harry. He's telling me the best course of action for you is to have your prostate removed. At this point I just started my research, but I at least knew that I didn't want to have my prostate removed. I wanted to deal with all aspects of my health and pain and I informed him that I'm just going to simply change my lifestyle and hold on to my prostate. At that point he got a little defensive. He says I have to tell you I think you're absolutely crazy. You're 60 years old. Why in the world would you want to put your life at risk? So here's the man on the white coat, with 10, 12 years of education behind him, telling me where I was. No medical background, but I'm basically a fool for taking this course of action.
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It's now 15 and a half years later. I feel younger, more vibrant than I did back when I was 60. I play singles tennis once a week. I swim, I walk three to four miles a day. I play pickleball. I have no limitations whatsoever. Thankfully, I never had any of the side effects that many men get from going through radiation and prostate surgery, so I have delighted with my decision. My wife was petrified in the beginning. She had a question Are you sure you know what you're doing? But they all friends and family, 15 and a half years later support what I'm doing and thank God the medical community is starting to come around and much more accepting of people who choose active surveillance. One of the things I found in my research is that only 15% of prostate cancer is lethal. This was done to DNA analysis by Sloan. That are not too many. You're all just reforming their patients about this. They're basically treating everybody the same, and I think that's the case of overtreat.
Speaker 1:
You mentioned in your research the food that we put into our mouth can also be our medicine. How did you start applying this to your actual healing? What were some?
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of the first things you did.
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I completely changed what I was eating the first two years of my new life. I was 100% vegan. I was so careful of what I ate that my weight, in a matter of three months, went from 227 to 175. Just by eating clean food and watching everything that went in my mouth, I think what happens after the initial shock and I'm getting good results and I'm finding that what I'm taking by PSA test every three months that the numbers are going down, so you become a little bit relaxed. You tend to cheat a little bit. In the beginning, I wasn't eating any animal products whatsoever and now, 15 and a half years later, I'll typically have meat once a week and fish once a week, some eggs and so forth. Whatever I put in my mouth, I'm looking at the ingredients. I'm staying away best I can. A processed food, a manufactured food, types of toxins. In there I'm meeting what I call clean food. This is what I advocate to everybody I speak to. Whatever you're putting in your mouth is basically promoting your health or destroying your health.
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And what people don't realize is that everybody uses to speak about cancer in terms of genetics. There are some genetics to cancer. Some people take the broad good gene and what have you are more inclined to have a cancerous tumor. When it comes to somebody like Angelie Jolie, I remember when she chose to have her breast remit she was applauded worldwide. They said, well, what a brave woman, what a great teacher, role model for the rest of us. And I'm saying to myself, into my research, that this woman was an absolute fool. Her broad good genes then that she had pain times greater chance of getting breast cancer than the person who did not have the broad good gene. But what nobody obviously told her is your lifestyle determines whether genes are activated or remain dormant. So if she decided instead to change her lifestyle and have a diet in such a matter not to activate these dangerous, defective genes, she would never, ever develop breast cancer.
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If you say that to the average person, they're going to have a reaction and say Nelson, how in the world can you say something like that? How would you answer that question? What I've found?
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over the years, over my life, is we live in a Western society and we pretty much buy in to everything that the doctors and the hospitals do. If somebody goes to the trouble of analyzing a report card of how we fared in terms of healing people from cancer, the report card would probably be a D or an F. But as the public and they say, thank God for our doctors, thank God for our technology, thank God for our pharmaceutical industry. Of course, this person lived an extra six months or an extra couple of years from their treatment. I don't consider that a success. If you develop cancer and you have some type of procedure such that the cancer never reoccur, then I consider that a success. To have cancer and be put through the mill and die 12 years later of that cancer or another cancer, to me is not a success story.
Speaker 1:
When you go to the doctor years later he sees your results. He sees it's 15 years now. What does he say to you about what he did versus what he suggested that you do?
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Quite frankly, I don't really have much need or years to go see doctors and the incredible health. I do get blood tests every six months to a year to check on the low aspects that you could find out from your blood.
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My PSA gets higher every year when a man is alive. But my PSA is right now at the same level it was when I was first diagnosed with cancer 15 and a half years ago. So I am very happy. But I have no reason to even go to a doctor. A person can tell how they feel.
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I see everybody around me I'm going to be 76 next month saying the result of the Western lifestyle. So I'm seeing my friends and relatives are going to hospitals taking more and more pharmaceuticals, having more and more limitations in their lives, how they live their lives. I tell people I don't want to stop doing anything and mostly, or I want to keep my mind very active. I just want to continue living the same lifestyle. I believe the human body has evolved over millions of years to remain vibrant for 100 years. When I say I have to be able to say if you ever see what people look like at 100, if you have a well-being lifestyle and you're lucky enough to make it to 100, you'll feel terrible. I don't want to stop doing anything, I just want to continue doing what I'm doing every single day. I don't miss a day of walking. If it's raining out, we'll just wait for it to pours in the rain.
Speaker 1:
You're touching on lifestyle now. What were some of those key lifestyle changes that you did make?
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I am a firm believer that to live a long, healthy, vibrant life, you have to eat clean and have plenty of clean filtered water. You have to do daily exercise and some for you don't have to do as much as I do, but you have to do something daily. You have to do something to manage your stress. This is a very stressful society. There's nothing wrong with capitalism and people wanting to make tons of money. That's perfectly fine. It does come with a lot of stress. You have to find ways in which you can deal with your stress that it doesn't overtake your body. When you're in a stressful state, you're basically stopping the good hormones and you're releasing the negative hormones that are going to do a number on you. It's incredible. I firmly believe the body has such a self-healing mechanism built right in. This has evolved over millions of years to create this perfect specimen. But what we're doing in the last hundred years to me is suicide. It's just a slow poisoning For 50, 60 years. I suppose there's something that kills you the next day.
Speaker 1:
Why do you think that doctors have an opinion of either surgery or pharmaceuticals versus looking at the nutritional aspect of healing?
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Again, it's going to sound very cynical, but if you're a medical practitioner and say I was a medical practitioner here and you were coming to see me, you told me about your ailments, your symptoms, and I uncovered some of the root causes and had you do different lifestyle changes, like I did. And now you're healthy, you're well, you have no symptoms. You're not coming back to me and take that 500 fold for all my patients. How long do you think I'll be in practice? That's a great point.
Speaker 1:
How much time do they spend getting educated on nutrition? Do you know? In medical school?
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Yes, it's very simple to hear. It's typically an hour and a half over the four years. It's pathetic. The greatest emphasis of medical school and this was by design started in 1910 with the flexor report is basically associating a symptom with a pharmaceutical solution. You tell me what you have wrong with you and I'll give you XYZ pill to take. The funny thing is when they did surveys, when people left in a doctor's office and they left without a prescription, they somehow felt like they were cheated. There's not a pharmaceutical out there, no matter how great somebody will tell you your pill is. That doesn't have unintended consequences, but ever it's helping. It's doing a number on something else.
Speaker 1:
Maybe it's their first time hearing about this pharmaceutical versus healthy living and eating. What? Would you suggest as a starting point for someone like that?
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I would say most people are totally in the door as how to go about changing their lifestyle. If you go on my website, I sent up a website not selling anything or anything to help people, wwwcancerisnotmyenemyorgwebladecom. You'll see one of the pages there different books that I read, and these were just some from the beginning, some of the ones that really stand out over the years. They can feel free to contact me. I can add them to my blog list. There's so many great resources out there. I must tell you that I feel so, so fortunate. I feel as if I have some of the greatest heirs in the world accessible to me. Everybody else could have these same people accessible to. There's great people out there, but not too many people know about these people.
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Every couple of weeks I'll be invited to a podcast where different professionals will go over the world or speak, and I feel as if I'm learning from the greatest minds in the world. I love when people say well, go in a second. I have a third opinion. If they've all been educated in the state medical school, I'd say professors, what do you expect differently? People should be looking at not just Western medicine, but Eastern medicine, chinese medicine, medicine Aruvita from India. These are the things that have been around, not pharmaceutical medicine, the Soviet bitter round since 1910. These have been around for three, four, five thousand years.
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Are there any doctors out there that believe and are educated in a different way than the traditional doctor?
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Yes, there are American doctors out there. You can see a natural path. You could see anybody who believes in alternative medicine. The problem, big problem, is we like to go to doctors that are covered by our insurance company. A lot of these people that I'm speaking about are not covered, but if you follow what I suggest in my books, you really don't even need these people so much. You can get onto such a healthy track that you do not need anybody. I love it because it constantly reinforces and I constantly get new information I pass on If you could only give two or three tips for someone starting down this path.
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What would those two or three tips be?
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I would tell people you must be educated because what you're hearing, what you're reading in newspapers and you're hearing on television or radio, is not going to help you extend your quality years In the United States. Basically, you have a situation now where people are living on average to about 80. We brag about living to 80 because years ago we didn't live that long. Women in Japan live on average to 91. So I wouldn't be bragging about 80 if you take a million people that are living to 91. But also the late years in Americans' lives are really not over the years, they're really sick years where people are basically very limited at what they can do.
Speaker 1:
Nelson, how do you get the mindset to do this? Because you're taking a path that's very different from the majority of people. Have you found that's helped you in other areas of your life as well?
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My whole life I probably could. Definitely in the crowd. I do my best to research things. I was not a good student at school, but I feel as if I'm learning now like I've never learned when I was 15 and 16 years old. I'm learning every day People in the United States and the life they're living. Is this something that I admire? Is this something that I want to do? When you walk down the street and see people who are morbidly obese, I always tell people watch an old black and white movie and watch the extras, the thousands of people you might see walking on the streets. They're all thin. And now, if you see a current movie, the extra everybody's obese. It's absolutely crazy. They're eating food that has been manufactured in such a manner to hijack your taste buds, to addict you. The mind lights up just the same way it lights up from heroines, how it lights up from sugar, the processed food they were eating. Sugar. It's absolute poison. It's destroying lives. The biggest increase in diabetics now is teenagers. Is that crazy?
Speaker 1:
That's crazy. You mentioned a really great point. There are people that are hired in the food company specifically to put the perfect amount of sugar, salt and fat inside of their food, to make it taste and, most importantly, become addictive. So you want more of it, is that true?
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Yes, there's a company of Philadelphia that deals specifically with this issue to formulate the right ingredients to get that bliss point. It's very sad.
Speaker 1:
When a major company is doing this kind of stuff, does that go against taking care of the people? Isn't it more about greed?
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Look, this is capitalism. I don't fault anybody for coming up with an idea, but people use this smoke cigarettes at much larger numbers than they do now and now it's time for people to come to the realization that food is actually more dangerous than cigarettes.
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It's about taking responsibility for your own actions and your own life.
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Yes, about 13,. 14 years ago I was advised by my son who was going to this Chinese practitioner, qigong specialized, and he advised people to do a four day fast. For the first couple of years I objected to doing it. Then my wife and I went one time about 13 years ago. It's such an incredible feeling.
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A lot of times people think they can't dance for a day. We do it about two or three times a year now and they're really enter the day in the head. They mind is no longer telling you that you have a need to eat. You lose your appetite in eating. It's incredible. You're getting all these toxins out of your body and we just feel great. After we do it Every so often in the course of a year, of course you'll have a little sluggish. We say it's time for a pass. I strongly recommend that to people. Do it with a professional in the beginning till you get the hang of how to do it on your own, but it's very worthwhile to detox the body from all the crabs that we have going on inside our bodies.
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Is there a way that you know that you're actually detoxing? Can you tell that you're detoxing?
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This might be too much information, but if you do see what comes out of you in the toilet in a third day, it looks like it's from outer space. It's like something you've never seen.
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You can drink as much as you want.
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We only drink water. It's technically called a water fast. A lot of health professionals throughout the world strongly advocate water fast. One thing I should mention that when you break the fast you break it with a cup of soup, maybe like a cup of chicken soup, and not with a lot of food, and you don't want to, but you could get sick from that. You have to break it very modestly.
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But you haven't eaten for four days.
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By the way, it's also very effective for people who have cancer, and this is amazing to me. People who are treated for cancer typically lose weight on the poison that's being put in them. So they're being told by their oncologist when they ask what should we eat? Whatever you want, you want to gain weight, but the truth of the matter is the complete opposite is true. Fasting is very effective during cancer treatments. Everybody knows a PET scan. They put dyed sugar into your body and that's how they know where the tumor is, because cancer lulled sugar, so the dye sugar goes right to the tumor. Nobody who has cancer should ever be taking sugar in any form, so anything that turns into sugar.
Speaker 1:
The people, a lot of people that are listening to this podcast are in the insurance or financial advisory field. Why would they need to hear this message today?
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On a self-serving basis. You want to keep your clients alive. Your commission and your income is not adversely affected, but I have found that it helps my sales a lot. When I'm speaking to clients, they have to conversation. I sell life insurance for a living. If the conversation is about their health, I'm always given recommendations. It takes the edge off and Harris says salesman trying to push something on me, and they know that I'm in their corner, which I truly am. I truly believe that God has enabled me to survive these three near-death experiences so that I might be able to be a help to other people and that's what my mission is I sell life insurance for a living, but I truly am passionate about health and being.
Speaker 1:
That's such a beautiful mission. Speaking of that mission, any specific stories about how you helped a client specifically?
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We've had some clients be diagnosed with cancer from just taking an insurance exam. A lot of times people are stormed. We had one story where a person applied for insurance and was declined. The only thing I could find out was that there was something wrong with the blood. And I told the client please go get your blood checked, don't go to just a regular doctor. Go to somebody who specializes in this. He goes to a regular doctor. He tells me a week later his blood is blind. I say, look, this guy doesn't have any money on the line. The insurance company had a half million dollars on the line and they said there's something wrong. Please, for your own sake, go check it further. He goes to a specialist and sure enough, it means confirmed that he had leukemia. I'll link the field with that Bye Pressing him. He's alive today.
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I've had family members that told me thanks, but no thanks. I'm not willing to change my whole life. I had a nephew who sadly died at leukemia in 51, where all creatures of habit hear somebody telling you I want you to change everything in your life. It's tough. It's a tough recommendation. I did it because I had the fear of God and that I had to do something. I couldn't continue on the same path. I honestly believe even if I had my prostate removed and been changed by lifestyle, I believe I would be dead today.
Speaker 1:
Wow, what are some last messages that you'd like to tell anyone?
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I just think life is so precious that you shouldn't do anything to assist in your demise. People say, oh, it's so hard what you do. I think it's so simple. To live a quality of life, you just have to be very selective of what you eat. When you go out to eat in the beginning, just stay away from most restaurants and go to vegetarian restaurants, vegan restaurants or Asian restaurants. They tend to be a lot healthier. When you cook at home, watch the ingredients, try to make things from scratch where you know every single item that's going in what you're making. Every morning I start out with a concoction. I go to concoction. I just throw whatever vegetables and beans I have and put a lot of Indian spices in there, and I try to avoid sugar. The next deadly thing is oil. Try your harness to avoid oil oils Some are better than others, but back. If you can avoid oil, you're much, much better off.
Speaker 1:
For someone just starting down this process. What's a couple steps they could take in that direction?
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Everybody should have a water filter. They shouldn't drink tap water. I have what's called a zero water filter. It comes with a measuring device and people think bottled water is so great for you. When I got the device, the tap water was like 116 units of whatever trap that's in your water. And then I empty that and I started a new class. I put the filter water in and it calls zero water because it measures zero, zero, zero, zero. When you put that measuring device in, so many people drink bottled water and that's supposed to be so good for you and I checked that and that registered high too. The first thing you could do in terms of water is have filter water.
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As far as drinks, sodate is incredibly toxic for people. The best would be just seltzer plate or with the natural flavoring, although seltzer itself is much more acidic than regular water. If you want to be cancer free, you want to have an alkaline diet, as opposed to, most Americans have a highly acidic diet. As far as foods, very simple vegetables, the more colors, the better. Beans all type, preferably dried beans that are soaked and then sprout, which I do and a lot of raw nuts. Nuts are incredible when it's there with the nuts they say outside they are, but nuts are incredibly healthy for you and a lot of great spices. You want a lot of pepper, turmeric, cumin. You want to really put in every one of your meals.
Speaker 1:
Say someone followed all of these rules, what do you think the likelihood of them getting cancer would be?
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Impossible, as real as it is. Even if you have the genes where you're predisposed to it, you have to do something to activate those genes. The toxins in the environment, the personal care products there's so many ways to get toxins in your body.
Speaker 1:
Besides health, since you've been in insurance for a very long time, could someone in the business take the road best followed, which could help them achieve higher and higher goals?
Speaker 2:
First of all, you're in your fifties and sixties and you've been in business for a while and you're in investments or insurance and you're feeling personally wilesy. You're getting up every night with stomach problems, with heartburn. You're taking pills for your heartburn reflux and then you're getting headaches all the time. You're getting dizziness, you're feeling like you can't move that well because you're obese. How can you possibly be that effective with your clients?
Speaker 1:
We're going to put links to your website and they can sign up for your newsletter as well If they want to reach out to you. Is there? Is that a place to do that on the website as well?
Speaker 2:
Yes, email is on the website. Anybody could call me or email me. When any health issue, that's my mission to help people. You can reach me at nelsonorberman-gmailcom. You can call me at 856-424-9494, no matter where we're living in the country.
Speaker 1:
Nelson, thank you so much for taking the time to share your message with everyone. It's a beautiful thing that you're really getting a chance to live your purpose, not only in the financial industry by helping them with their finances, but now helping them live a longer life. Hopefully this inspires someone to take action and help improve their life.
