4th and Wrong
Spring Blitz: Latest News From Inside College Football Spring Games
This episode isn't just about analyzing quarterback competitions or dissecting coaching strategies; it's a narrative quilt patched with everything from Chris' escapades with a private hibachi chef to Joey Chestnut slamming hot dogs at the Ole Miss Spring Game to D.R.I.P OJ Simpson. Join us for a roller coaster of discussions, including a dive into the twists on traditional spring football games where the pigskin takes a backseat to slam dunks and racing golf carts.
Tax season might have you thinking about numbers, but we're crunching more than just financial figures as we explore college football spring practices. We share a laugh over the quirks of filing taxes and then shift to the serious business of quarterback battles. Hear how coaches like Kirby Smart weigh their options between seasoned players and fresh talent. Revel in the insider scoop on spring games, where we give our takes on how teams like LSU and Ohio State showcase their potential and an early look into the Kalen Deboer Era at Alabama.
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This episode isn't just about analyzing quarterback competitions or dissecting coaching strategies; it's a narrative quilt patched with everything from Chris' escapades with a private hibachi chef to Joey Chestnut slamming hot dogs at the Ole Miss Spring Game to D.R.I.P OJ Simpson. Join us for a roller coaster of discussions, including a dive into the twists on traditional spring football games where the pigskin takes a backseat to slam dunks and racing golf carts.
Tax season might have you thinking about numbers, but we're crunching more than just financial figures as we explore college football spring practices. We share a laugh over the quirks of filing taxes and then shift to the serious business of quarterback battles. Hear how coaches like Kirby Smart weigh their options between seasoned players and fresh talent. Revel in the insider scoop on spring games, where we give our takes on how teams like LSU and Ohio State showcase their potential and an early look into the Kalen Deboer Era at Alabama.
4th and Wrong is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, and wherever else you listen to podcasts.
Subscribe to our YouTube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/@FourthAndWrongPod
Follow the guys on X:
Chris Marler: https://twitter.com/VernFunquistCFB
Tyler Huck: https://twitter.com/TylerHuck
Damn it. All right and we're live. Welcome to episode six of Forth and Wrong. Today is April 15th 2024. It's tax day, chris, and in today's episode we talk about spring games how to avoid paying taxes. How to evade taxes.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:We talk about the spring games have already taken place. Standouts from those games. We talk a little bit about what we're looking forward to in the upcoming spring games. Talk some transfer portal. We got another window of transfer portals going on tomorrow, starting for 15 days. Also, talk a little juice. Little OJ Simpson. Yeah, we are finally on Twitter at fourth and wrong pod. That's the number four, fourth and wrong pod and on youtube, if you search fourth and wrong podcast, where we go live in the off season on mondays at 8 pm eastern time. Um, our live audience is certainly building. Uh, this is not a different studio, it's just the same room that I just keep circulating around, and so not in different studios. We had our first was it our first or second podcast when we went to the Forth and Wrong brand, we had over a thousand live viewers on one of our episodes.
Speaker 1:We're at 11 right now which is just a little far from a thousand, but we're getting there. You can also catch replays of the show on youtube and, as always, the podcast version can be found on spotify and apple podcast or wherever you listen to podcasts. Chris, it's been two weeks since we discussed college football. Um, a little bit's changed. There's been a lot of on-field play. I don't know that I would classify some of these spring games as actual games anymore. Why? Because all their starters didn't show up or what.
Speaker 1:More. So we've got dunk contests, we've got golf cart races, we've got sorority tug-of-war events. Wait, golf cart races, yeah, starring Monty Kiffin.
Speaker 2:First off, no part of that is safe at all, For Monty especially. I thought I just misheard you because, I mean, go-kart racing is fun. Golf-kart racing sounds super super white. I mean, listen, we're talking a lot of taxes today. We are brought to you, as always, by our good friends at H&R Block Not the one you're thinking of, it is just the one located next to the Kroger and the Sushi Palace off of Briarcliff Road. If you are looking for a way to get out of your tax liens or your bad credit, h&r Block will help you. Just block the IRS's number. So make sure you go check them out today.
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Speaker 1:Are you excited? Did you go to the game, the A-Day game?
Speaker 2:No, I was at a cabin all weekend Cabin and it was a lot of fun. It was one of Allie's friends' 30th birthday Actually two of their friends' 30th birthdays and since I'm also very young and fun to be around, um, uh, we went to. It was like I guess it's blue ridge. Yes, that is the city, yeah, so I was there. Took us five hours to get to blue ridge from where exactly? Very, very an appropriate and reasonable first follow-up question um, it was from atlanta, so it should have taken an hour and 44 to an hour and 50 minutes.
Speaker 1:Just like my college.
Speaker 2:We managed to get out of there in a shade of their decade and it took five hours do I bother asking why it took five minutes?
Speaker 1:it looks like a string of bad luck.
Speaker 2:It was like a bunch of just different shit that we ran into, like traffic and stuff like that, and then we were trying to go pick up liquor for the house at a liquor store. So I Googled liquor stores in Blue Ridge and there were multiple that were listed but they were all like fancy wine shops. Like too many fancy wine shops, to be honest, in that small of a town, Blue fancy wine shops, Too many fancy wine shops to be honest.
Speaker 1:In that small of a town, Blue Ridge is definitely a fancy wine shop kind of town. There is a great place going out towards Blue Ridge called Appalachian Beverage. It looks like a giant warehouse, that's where we went there you go. Obviously, you landed them as a sponsor that day because they are sponsoring this segment.
Speaker 2:We actually caught a couple. This weekend I went on a sales trip. My favorite part of Blue Ridge is there's multiple business names that it's just like somebody was like, okay, top of your head, just think of a random word, go, we're going to put an ampersand sign in between that and think of another one. I saw drug and guns. There was multiple drug and guns stores. There was multiple Drug and Guns stores. There was one place that was called the Trump Store. It was just Trump stuff yeah, I'm sure it does. Well, up there Probably kills. And then it's right across the street from the indoor firing range. And then there was another one that was called like Pet Adoption Zipline or something. It was like what the fuck is happening in this place?
Speaker 1:It's always that sign. Mckaysville drug and gun.
Speaker 2:It was.
Speaker 1:McKaysville. I want to stop in and see what we can see. Maybe pick a little Allegra up. It's been allergy season. Maybe we pick up a nine.
Speaker 2:If you're confused about how to make meth, make sure you head up to our friends at McKay's Drugstore in McKaysville, Georgia, right across the street from Tennessee. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Call 1-800. I don't get it. A lot of sponsors. We didn't go. Last Monday I was at the Masters.
Speaker 2:Fuck off dude. By the way, this has not been brought up by multiple people, so I feel like I can bring it up, even though it's irrational. You do a lot of stuff, tyler. You do a lot of things and I'm invited to none of them, so why don't you?
Speaker 1:tell the people what's really going on here. Yeah well, you don't live here, so that's tough for most of the stuff. That's not my best start, for sure, and when you do come here, you you inform me the day before you're leaving that you are here and you've been here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I thought we were trying to keep it like fun, spontaneous.
Speaker 1:That's fair. So yeah, I went. Honestly, it was awesome not having a cell phone all day. It's probably been I don't know 20, 25 years since I've not had a cell phone on me all day. It's kind of weird. So that was cool. Got to see Tiger. First thing we saw when we walked in the gates was Tiger warming up on the just the driving range by himself. It was like just the sun was like barely coming up. It was very majestic. Yeah, Ran into a listener. I was. I saw that. That was cool. It was very end of the day. I had that. That was cool. It was very end of the day. I had had some drinks. I had gone to the golf shop twice already. I thought it was a great time to stop by a third time on the way out of the.
Speaker 2:Uh, oh, not the drinks, but for clothes and stuff, yeah, just hats and whatever I could find.
Speaker 1:Really, I bet you had multiple, because you probably got me one. Yeah, of course. Um, so they stopped serving beer at 5 at Augusta National, and beers are $6 now, so I don't know who we want to thank there, but maybe we won't be allowed to yeah but it's still.
Speaker 1:$6 for a beer is pretty incredible. And so when you get there at 7am and you leave at basically like 7pm, it's a long day and it is around 7pm when I ran into one of our listeners. Som, it's a long day, yeah, and it is around 7 pm when I ran into one of our listeners, so it'd been a long day. So, shout out, warren. I was coming out of the bathroom for about the 18th time. Uh, in the last two hours before we left this, the course, I hear t-hawk. I was like, oh god, who is it? Who is it? And it was one of our listeners. He's like listen, he's like he. He claimed that me and you got him back on twitter. Like our show got him back on twitter. He had quit twitter for a while, which is probably a good thing. I actually feel bad for that. They got back on somebody.
Speaker 1:Somebody's saying that that I was a part of getting them back onto social media is the upset of the century yeah, so, uh, so that was cool, man, I and actually he happened to be there with someone that I used to work with, which was totally random, um, so it was cool. But yeah, when you're with there with a group of a bunch of people and you don't have cell phones and people start to wander around, it becomes difficult to find each other on a massive golf course, that's how the first golf was ever played, tyler people forget that that's why they do it at augusta every year, because that's where golf started.
Speaker 1:But seriously, though, the Scotty Scheffler is like kind of a like. I felt like he didn't even play that well and he he, he, like.
Speaker 2:He is the definition of like. When I want to turn it on. If I have turned on, I will.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's a like numbers. Wise. He's about as close to tigers You're going to get like this little stretch he's on. I mean, he won the players and now he's one of the masters. Last year I think he won his second time. He's on the uh, the masters. He won the arnold palmer, I think, for the third time. I mean this dude is incredible. It's weird, though, because it's like he's so boring that it's almost like it like I don't know it kind of break like tiger was so fun to watch at the same time as being prominent that like everyone was drawn to him. Scotty's really not that way, at least yet.
Speaker 2:You would think that in your whatever he's in, he would be less camera shy now, but that has not changed. I will say, one of my favorite parts is when they brought that fucking ogre at the end and just had him sit on the end and not talk and say a word, just be there.
Speaker 2:That was was fun. Also, the picture of jelly roll jelly. Like thursday morning I wake up and there's a picture of jelly roll next to jim nance and svp and I was like that has to be photoshopped, like it has to be just the weirdest, the weirdest thing um, by the way, and golf like why does it just become a normal thing that we say amateur? Like I don't ever say that in my normal life.
Speaker 1:But when we talk about the US amateur it's like why do we do that?
Speaker 2:I feel like that has happened a lot and I feel like British people have really clung on to the letter U because they started putting it in words like honor and shit like that.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, color. You know what?
Speaker 2:I mean, I don't like that at all. So, yeah, that's master's talk.
Speaker 1:Yeah, uh so shout out did you enjoy watching it? I felt like it was.
Speaker 1:I thought it was gonna get good on sunday and then like everyone just started shitting the bed and scotty was just like pretty consistent. I mean, he did birdie a couple you know on the back end, but yeah, just it. I don't know man. And now there's. Did you see the, the, the rumors that rory might be going to live now, after all the shit he's been talking? And like he was the back end. But yeah, just it. I don't know man. And now there's. Did you see the, the, the rumors that rory might be going to live now, after all the shit he's been talking? And like he was the face of the pga, which I don't?
Speaker 1:first of all, I don't blame him because, like they threw him totally under the bus but pga pga they were like he was basically the face of being like we're gonna stand against this and then, without even consulting with any of the players or anything, they made a merger deal with live and he was like, oh cool, so we like live now. I hope you guys don't live.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'd be pissed that was pretty sick I'm gonna get kicked off twitter again yeah, um, but I don't know if you, if you, got a chance to watch the full swing documentary on netflix. It's uh, it's good, it is.
Speaker 2:That's the one thing about the masters is cool, it's like the, the, the family dynamic is like. That is so like I guess like redeeming and endearing for from like most golfers. But it was weird, this year was like but one, so a lot of the golfers didn't finish on Thursday Right, and specifically four of them from the sec didn't. Four of them from the sec didn't, because I was making that graphic and trying to update it by the time I woke up the next morning, like I was like at least I have it in place. So they got to be close to that right. They had all finished their rounds and they had like three of the four players were nine over like on the last eight holes of of the first round what I thought was like I don't necessarily want to see something like we saw in like 97, when like tiger was like what?
Speaker 2:like 24 under or something crazy and just killing everybody, but it started out like six and seven under on on Thursday. And that's where it ended and it's like like it stayed like that until Sunday.
Speaker 1:So it's just like yeah, I think Scotty ended up what like 11 under or something like that, and the next closest guy was like seven under like, was like seven under like just no increase from thursday's round, which was crazy because the wind was a lot worse thursday friday, but I don't know. It's uh, masters is always fun. It's the start to major season, so I think pga is next I don't know. All right, let's talk football, because there's a lot of football, or? Somewhat oh, you want to talk about something else I don't know.
Speaker 2:Um, it's going to be pretty good this year. I've actually heard that and I have not watched any. Oh, you want to talk about something else?
Speaker 1:I don't know I was going through these. American Idol's been pretty good this year.
Speaker 2:I've actually heard that, and I have not watched any of it.
Speaker 1:You think we should do a weekly American Idol power ranking?
Speaker 2:I would love to start doing stuff like that but not tell any of our audience and just being like if we went into, like all right guys, here's our top five teams from week one, instead of getting into Washington and Bama and whoever else that comes up. Phillip Phillips, dude, that kid. He's got a voice, I would say like no other, but it's like a lot of others. It's like a lot of others. He's pretty much exactly.
Speaker 1:Dave Matthews. That's the only we're playing Phillip Phillips here with Dave Matthews. He's like a better version.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's like a Philip Phillips he's actually doing drugs?
Speaker 1:Is Chris Daughtry, number one on the list? Seems like he should be.
Speaker 2:I mean, first off, I got a text the other day. This is all like 30 minutes apart. I got a text from a buddy saying dude, we got 172 days to college football season Almost there. I was like all right, we're not. And then I got a text like seven minutes later from my buddy Brian, who was like 112 days to a creed brother.
Speaker 1:I was like yes, I can get behind that, uh, it is tax day, so that's a beautiful thing that you made there.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Have you paid? Have you filed yet? Uh-huh, good, good. Did you file an extension? At least if you didn't file, do you mean this?
Speaker 2:year. Are you talking about paying?
Speaker 1:this year.
Speaker 2:Oh no, so we haven't filed for 22 yet. Yeah, I actually filed all of my W-2 stuff under Conor O'Gara's name.
Speaker 1:So it's not my problem. Yeah, he's going to owe a lot of taxes and bills then, because your salary was so high.
Speaker 2:I did mine a couple weeks ago. I think I owed like $100 something.
Speaker 1:It's perfect, it's what you want.
Speaker 2:I tried to send it via Apple Pay, but they wouldn't do it.
Speaker 1:I'll figure it out. Shout out to all you that are scrambling to do your taxes. You watch us live here. 112 of you in the chat.
Speaker 2:We appreciate you being here? Um, so you were in. You were in blue ridge all weekend. You said you were in the cabin, so so we got a. We got a hibachi person to come in like to the house like a private chef. That is how you would describe it in most places. That is not how I would describe this gentleman in in blue ridge um the neighbor down the street.
Speaker 1:He was like I think he would. Might have just been like the one that would fit the description to do it, and so they were like all right, this is your job now um, like, obviously he had a beard no, oh, really, I was thinking lots of chefs have beards I don't like I'm thinking like there's a lot of mountain people up there that are pretty strange, and I feel like a guy that comes to people's houses and cooks for them in Blue Ridge would be even stranger, like basically the epitome of a mountain person.
Speaker 2:He was Japanese.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, they don't typically have long beards, so that would be, nice to know before but I guess I said hibachi.
Speaker 2:I don't know why you thought I don't know why you thought it was hibachi.
Speaker 1:I don't assume, all hibachi chefs are Japanese.
Speaker 2:That reminds me to tell you guys, come on down to Hank's Chevron, fill and sip as well as tax and drip.
Speaker 1:Is that you that's typing from our YouTube?
Speaker 2:page. I don't think that's ours. I don't think that's our. Okay, I can't tell if it's like somebody just trolling us or not. No, so like here's that. Uh, I just want, I want you to get the visual of this experience on saturday. Like her, friends are a blast, there's a lot of fun. So we go up there like friday night. Um saturday, we are gonna like hang in the morning. Then we're like gonna go get like brunch, something like that went to some place called uh Sheep. It was really really good. Then I went to this bar so I could see the first part of the game. We would get some drinks from a brewery. We've all been drinking at this point for at least three plus hours, not bad, but we've all had a lot. What were you drinking? Playing Zach Bryan cover songs, and Zach Bryan, bryan cover songs only, and so about sit down white women that were you were with probably loved it.
Speaker 2:They sat two tables away, so, yeah, probably so, um, but we sat there and and like one of them was like dude, this guy's like really good, he's like really good, and so I was like I don't want to say anything. He's like literally the best singer I've ever heard in my life.
Speaker 1:So then, singing at the. Is that brian covers?
Speaker 2:he was. He was good, but he was not. I mean, I think there was some, some things that went into us all thinking that yeah, so somebody then was like hey, you know what we should do.
Speaker 2:We should see if he'll just come perform tonight for the for the hibachi thing. What I didn't do at the hibachi thing was it was a themed dinner, like with denim and diamonds, which Allie told me that I'm sure several times. I only listened to the denim part. I did not know what the diamonds part, so I wore my overalls um, the A&M overalls Um. Everyone else was in like well-thought-out, effeminate costumes.
Speaker 2:Anyway, we're sitting there and I was like how much do you think this guy would make us pay him to come see the house? Somebody said $1,100. I was like, first off, listen, as somebody that did comedy. I guarantee you his price is lower than that, I guarantee you.
Speaker 1:So they go up, that I guarantee you.
Speaker 2:So they go to him like sting dude it was. If it was sting the wrestler I still would have had. So he. He goes up and uh he's like he asked him how, how much it would like cost to be like to come play a set, and he's like I mean, honestly, man, my price is pretty firm, it's 50. And we're like there's 20 of us Like what?
Speaker 1:Jesus, can you play for 11 hours?
Speaker 2:So he somehow convinced them. They get his number, they tell him as soon as he texts him he's going to actually come out there. No part of me thought he was going to come there, but when we got back to the house I realized everybody was going to be dressed, what He'd go back to the house.
Speaker 2:He was already there in the dining room, but he did show up to see a full house of dudes in cut-off denim vests and rhinestone hats that say like bitch and queen and that's to welcome him. This is totally normal man. Go, set up out back. We're going to have ourselves a little concert. We're just going to do some stuff inside first. Honestly, the person I actually felt bad for was the hibachi dude, because that guy's always got to be the center of attention and he's just getting upstaged.
Speaker 1:He's over there, she's doing the choo-choo train and everyone else is singing Wonderwall in the backyard.
Speaker 2:Starts firing shrimp at the guy's face. Oh, yeah, all right, let's talk sports. Wait, all right what?
Speaker 1:happened because he started accusing us of taking the name and I oh, he's a real person yeah, and and uh. Then he said bruv, which I don't know what that means, but I think it's well, like well I will say this I don't know if he's still listening.
Speaker 2:I that was generally not something that we did, so I apologize if it came off that way. I will also tell you if you had the name, which it looks like you did for three or four years, and that's the fucking graphic you chose to go with um you know, you had plenty of time.
Speaker 1:You had plenty of time yeah, so if you want to have competing uh pods and see if we can beat your numbers in our first six episodes that you've ever had, with the numbers. Oh, yeah, yeah, good, all right. So, ole Miss, like I said, they had a hot dog eating contest at their football game. They played seven on seven, in which Jackson dart participated in a backwards hat.
Speaker 2:I like that. That's cool.
Speaker 1:So yeah, you had the hot dog eating contest Featuring Joey Chestnut.
Speaker 2:So you know how that came about.
Speaker 1:Kiffin just DM'd him, right Just.
Speaker 2:DM'd him.
Speaker 1:So should we DM Kiffin? I feel like things go down DM with Kiffin In more ways.
Speaker 2:For sure. I don't know if we should start doing that. What's up, harry LeGay? That's wild, that's wild. That's wild that he even admitted it, by the way. I don't know if he knows this or not, but, lane, you have all the resources at your disposal for somebody to actually get in touch with that guy yeah, but the dm worked um, like I said, golf cart race featuring monty kiffin.
Speaker 1:Um students over 21 were allowed to bring alcohol into the stadium really yeah uh there was a slam dunk contest on the field featuring football players, so I don't think we learned a ton about old miss yeah my question to you, though all jokes aside, do you think this is like kiffin being like? I'm not going to let some of these backups that I want to hold on to get any good tape on film, because they're going to hit the portal.
Speaker 2:So I was like this would be one thing that I was going to ask you about and then shut up for once, because the whole thing is just so confusing to me.
Speaker 2:Because I think it's cool to an extent and like they have a lot of fun things and I'm sure they like the, the fans liked it, I guess, right, but like you only get 15 practices, right, um, I don't think old miss is a place like, look, if this is bam, if this is georgia, if this is like florida, uh, or some places like that, like where the fans are a little bit crazier. The first time you show signs of weakness in the season, they are going to be bringing up the fact that you chose to have a, you know, a field day, like you were in fucking fifth grade, instead of having a spring practice. I think it's cool for, like, like the kids obviously love it and they like want to like participate in it. I would assume, yeah, I, I don't think, like if this was a one-off, that he had done like was a one-off that he had done.
Speaker 2:Like, oh, that's a cool concept, good for him. Like, if, like, like, if it's like a for lack of better example, like, like out of uniform day, or like, like you get to wear something fun to school, or something like that.
Speaker 1:Like, that's one thing right, like you can do the same thing over and over.
Speaker 2:If you surprise the kids, hey, by the way, guess what? No scrimmage today, no pads, let's enjoy ourselves. But that's not what happened. Like they just I feel like they're just fucking around all the time down there, just all the time. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I kind of I think about it in my own situation, like if I drove five hours down to Tallahassee for the spring game because I was like excited to see the players and like Joey Chestnuts out on the field eating hot dogs. I'd be like this is I don't know, and you're way too far from the action for it to be something.
Speaker 2:What are they doing down there on that table? This looks disgusting. That guy is going to town. It looks like he's in 41. Couldn't be Just like the one SEC fan who doesn't have the internet didn't know what was going on that day?
Speaker 1:I'm pretty sure I saw Joey Chestnut out there, let's see Arkansas still in the SEC. Bobby Petrino, era 2.0. Oc there. Their heir apparent, I guess, if you want to say it to KJ Jefferson, is this kid, talon Green from Boise State.
Speaker 1:He seemed to have a pretty good day, jaquan, and Jackson actually looked really, really good. He was the transfer from utah. Um, if you think back to the like the awesome petrino offenses, they've got that power running back and this kid's 62 235. He had three touchdowns on the game, so I think that could be a good pickup.
Speaker 2:I don't know what are you expecting from arkansas this year, like I think the creativity man, I think the creativity on what they're able to do, because it felt like sometimes I feel like Arkansas, the way they were running their offense was like giving the ball. It was like a little league parent type type of thing, like my kid's hitting third, katie Jefferson's pitching and he's playing shortstop like, and he kind of was the whole offense so he kind of had to be at times. But like I think the thing with bob vitrino that he does, and this is what all good ocs do and this is why I love sargis. Well, kiffin, they find creative ways to get their playmakers in space. They find mismatches, they find like lapses in the defense and where your weakest and most vulnerable point is like on the backside of a defense and you know, and they exploit the shit out of that and then they can.
Speaker 2:That's that's just from like. It's a standpoint of like you know having the ability of like when, like you're, you're already kind of faltering right as a defense, like you, like you're kind of already on your heels. That's the kind of like knockout punch he's able to deliver. But he's also been like he's a good enough x's and o's guy where they will just go up and down the field, like on you, and when he was at arkansas at their best, he was doing that with like through the air and on the ground. And so that's what I'm wondering we're going to see this year, because I do think. I think that they could put up better numbers at quarterback even without Katie Jefferson, not just because of Petrino, but because they're not going to have to run everything through him.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, and shout out to Taylin. I mean, I'm sure there's going to be a lot of sorority girls named Taylin around Arkansas's campus that are thrilled to hear their names on Saturdays. Is Taylin a girl's name, like Taylin, you know it sounds like a Southern sorority name.
Speaker 1:I guess that was a bad joke. Taylin Taylin, Ohio State. Will Howard took first team reps Didn't have much to do in the game, really. Did you see any of this? I mean Caleb Downs, Apparently their DB room is going to be elite. Did you see any of this? I mean Caleb Downs, apparently their DB room is going to be elite.
Speaker 2:They are loaded. They are loaded Again. I was away from this this weekend and if I would have I'll be honest, if I would have rewatched one of the games, I probably would have gotten in trouble. Guys, I will try to do that this week. Did I see something about Ohio State having a situation where Julian Sane might play.
Speaker 1:Apparently he's looked very, very good. He's inserted himself into the mix. Apparently. Will Howard really isn't. He took first-team reps but he hasn't really pulled away from anybody. I think this is actually a quarterback competition going into the fall. Yeah good, I'm not sure if Zane's going to win the job, but apparently he's looked really good. I'm sure he's going to do good.
Speaker 2:We haven't seen Ryan Day do anything close to that before. It feels like what we usually see from Ryan Day at Ohio State is you know, you have a loaded quarterback room with a lot of talent at every single age and level, but it's usually who's waiting in the wings. There's a reason why Joe Burrow left right If Sane came out in a year, because this is the hard thing for Ohio State. This is the kind of decision I think you know we talked about. Kirby had to do it a while back. Sane had to do it between Mac Jones and Bryce Young in 2020. It happens every once in a while. Do you run with the freshman that you know is uber-talented all-world is going to be a stud, right or do you go with the safer move of this guy? Might not have as many big plays, he doesn't have the same kind of arm and physical talents, but is he going to turn?
Speaker 1:the ball over in a bad moment because he's 18. Well, I think you're gonna see the same thing, uh, with florida this year, and maybe in a little bit different circumstance.
Speaker 2:But that's right there.
Speaker 1:Ohio state and florida are in the same boat, right uh, graham mertz, obviously it's his job, but but dj lagway is kind of like.
Speaker 1:Obviously he's the number one quarterback coming out last year yeah and if you're napier, it's like, do you play him enough to? You're gonna have a bad season. Let's be honest, because that schedule and you know part of its schedule and part of it's just the talent that you've really lacked in bringing in but either way, do you play lagway a lot to say, look, this is our future, we're. This is the old era and next year we started new. Considering lagway like apparently napier and like lagway and lagway's high school coach, they're all like real tight. So, yeah, maybe that's like napier's saving grace is but what?
Speaker 1:I mean, is like in this portal era too, like you got to play these freshmen.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:At least a decent amount when they're freshman year, they're going to leave, yeah.
Speaker 2:And that might not be the case with with all of them. Actually, like one of the things I did for the new job, yesterday I put together a clip of T-Bob Averitt talking about why he was like, like wanted to redshirt his freshman year. That's what I wanted to do. I wanted to get bigger and stronger and all that kind of stuff and develop. For a year. You don't see it as much anymore. I got into the best shape of my life. Thank you very much. I was way better the next year. It did work. It did work Also, I was probably going to get redshirted either way, but it was nice to me that I got to be delivering the breakup message.
Speaker 2:I think that the thing with with Napier I'm interested to see what he's going to do with Lagway, cause I feel like this is going to sound worse than how I mean it, but Lagway is going to be like a pawn this year for for what do you want for Napier? Because all the fans are going to want to see him. The fans are going to want to see him like immediately. You know there's so much hype around the kid and he stayed in a class where a lot of people are already leaving all like the the negative stuff around. Napier like about, like this is going to be his last year, blah, blah, blah. Like there's a way to win over a fan base, like when a little bit irritable and nervous because they're not where they want to be and it's appeasing to them and this is probably the biggest way to do that, besides winning football games.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it's going to be tough to win football games in Gainesville either way this year, so I throw Lagway out there as much as possible. It's kind of like when Richardson was a freshman he got in there and was electric, but he barely won it.
Speaker 1:So I don't know. Lagway's probably a better version of that, uh, but same with high state. I mean, didn't learn much on offense, uh, didn't see much of travion henderson or quinshot jenkins. Um, their all-world freshman receiver, jeremiah smith, didn't start, but apparently that kid's gonna be a day one difference maker.
Speaker 2:There's two more. We haven't mentioned yet Tyler, which I'm assuming is on purpose, because you're saving the best for last.
Speaker 1:Of course, kentucky.
Speaker 2:I missed the Kentucky thing, but there was a lot of chatter around it, especially because of the quarterback position with Brock Vandergrove.
Speaker 1:That was the other thing. Thanks for the chat mentioning it. But yeah, Ohio State played like two-hand touch what? Yeah, so it wasn't even real. I don't know, Did you spring it? I?
Speaker 2:need everyone to listen up real quick, Not you guys in the chat I'm going to project on you. This is not your fault If you are a college program or coach. I need you to stop doing dumb shit that is, from an optics standpoint, going to feed the lowest hanging fruit jokes possible.
Speaker 1:What are we doing? Two-hand touch, Hot dog eating contest? I don't know.
Speaker 2:Tell your players don't finish the play, which is considering what Ohio State did the last two years in big like, big moments. Not great. Why does this tax day thing still up? I?
Speaker 1:don't know. Uh, thank you to the over 200 people in the live chat here I appreciate you guys stopping by.
Speaker 1:Oh no, but kentucky a lot of really good stuff around. Brock vandegrift um, yeah, also one of the things I didn't know that I was reading today. So vandegrift had three touchdowns in the game. He definitely has running ability too, so he's definitely more in the will levis mold rather than the devon leary mold. Um, so they have a new oc apparently. He runs a really fast paced offense. What I didn't know is that under liam cohen, kentucky had one of the slowest offenses in the country as as far pace is concerned. So it should be a totally different looking offense this year with a better quarterback at the helm. But as most of these games went, a lot of the players were held out of the game. So I think what Kentucky fans can take is you should have a pretty good quarterback and the offense should move at a quicker pace, which is what you need in today's game.
Speaker 2:That's a really interesting team. I still think that the ceiling and the floor are pretty close, like between 7 and 10, at most probably 7 and 9. But that team was hyped going into last season and that's coming out of the year where they were hyped again because of Will Levis. Then you bring in the transfer quarterback, the kid from NC State, and it was like I just was so high on that kid, devin Lear, because he looked so good so early on in his career and it was awful, and they returned their top five pass catchers. So this is kind of a cool thing.
Speaker 2:I think Kentucky is a really prime example this year of what like the portal era can be for certain teams, because we saw last year here's everything you have coming back, here's everything you know you're gonna have in place like go out there with, with a, a team that is like consistent and has been formed for a for several months now. You're not adding guys later like whatever, and they it. It was like they fell on their face like so many times. So now you gotta get a chance to redeem yourself and maybe you got the right guys this year.
Speaker 1:And now you're a football school, because I think they hired like the BYU head coach.
Speaker 2:So they went from big blue ball nation to big blue nation. But I will also say, watching Kentucky, their official basketball account Tweet out a picture of Bud Walton Arena and they're welcoming to Coach Cal the crowd they had there and then doing a side-by-side of their crowd for welcoming their new coach. That is a fall from the top man, that's sad.
Speaker 1:Not that I think Cal Parry was a good hire by Arkansas, but I don't know. I'm sure Kentucky fans were happy that he left on his own accord, but I don't know if I'd be hired, I don't know. I don't know if I'd be happy with the view. I think Kentucky the name should probably garner a little bit Other stops around the sec. Lsu Garrett Nussmeyer seven for seven Looked really good 187 yards, two touchdowns. I mean, one thing you might be concerned about if you're an LSU fan is the DBs got worked 371 yards, three touchdowns, no picks amongst all the quarterbacks. So I don't know what. Obviously portal season opens up tomorrow and we'll see what they do, but they're probably going to need to bring in some TVs, so again.
Speaker 2:So this is for those of you that don't know, and we haven't updated my, my new career on top of this. So I I landed at I said this like I think, in January or February, like when, when the time came, I would like finally be able to announce it, because I've been in the work since like december, um, but I started working at espn baton rouge, uh, with matt moscona and those guys um early last week. So now I'm just all tuned in lsu football man. I did a, I did a several hour deep dive on on the saints and why they don't draft lsu players, which is basically just exactly like the falcons do tga, but um no, so here's the the thing, like Brian Kelly said last week at one of his press conferences, like, like, after after one of the spring practices, which was we're not going after any, any position except for D tackle, like that's it.
Speaker 2:That's the only thing that we are going after. They're already. Also, they're over their their limit for scholarship players. They have 88 right now, so they're going to have to cut 85. What is?
Speaker 1:happening. The fourth and wrong pod is really angry that we have the same name, I think.
Speaker 2:No, we spell ours differently.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's the number four and the 8%.
Speaker 2:We can change it to Stetson Bennett the fourth and wrong if you want us to. We can talk semantics later. Anyway, I think that the thing I was most interested to see from LSU is I don't care about how the defense is going to look in the spring game, especially against that offense, because that offense is going to make a lot of people look stupid and it's wild if you think about it. I've seen several mock drafts where there's three players from LSU's offense from a year ago that are projected to go in the top 10 to 12 picks and they are still going to be loaded on offense this year going into the season. So I think you know I want to see who's going to set up a receiver. A lot of people think it's going to be Kyron Lacey, who's like a super talented recruit. That's just kind of taken a while to get it together.
Speaker 2:And then the thing for me is like where you really, when you see lsu at their like absolute best, it's not just having one guy right, it's like when, when you had jamar chase and you had, uh, justin jefferson like last year you talk about you had malik neighbors and you had um, yeah so it's like okay. Well, we can talk about it afterwards if you want.
Speaker 2:Anyway, but so that's what I was like. I was mainly looking forward to see. And then Kyron Lacey man like because that's the thing with LSU, especially with that offense, is someone's got to be the guy Like it might not be necessarily the right guy, but somebody is going to get the bulk of those, those receptions.
Speaker 2:Keishon Butte was the guy. Like we said, it might not be necessarily the the right guy because somebody's going to get the bulk of those, those receptions. Kayshaun butte was the guy a couple years ago. Obviously new league neighbors was like unguardable at times a year ago. So it seems like they're trying to put that on kyron lacey and how's he gonna respond? He's responded really well so far yeah, and look, I mean they've.
Speaker 1:They've brought in a bunch of five stars over the last couple years that are younger, but maybe one of those guys will step up over the course of the summer. I think Shelton Sampson was a big name that they got last year. But yeah, I think defense obviously is going to be the name of the game for them this year. I think you can trust Nussmeyer in that offense. And don't forget they got Will. What's the kid's name from Ole Miss? Again Will Howard. Or oh, what's the kid's name from Ole Miss? Again oh, will Howard. Or did he transfer from LSU?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's the opposite of that, yeah.
Speaker 1:I can't keep up anymore. It's not Will Howard Will. Howard's from State to Ohio State, anyways, tennessee.
Speaker 2:Will Gates. Will Smith Will I'm not, Will I am All right you've taken way too long to get to the main event here, and let's talk about the two big ones as we get. Also, it was awesome that the Bama game was on ESPN, so I didn't have to jump through hoops, because that's how ESPN gets you to sign up again. Walker Howard.
Speaker 1:Walker.
Speaker 2:Howard. I wish that they would show these. These games should be available somewhere. I know we have the capability to do it. These games should be available somewhere. I know we have the capability to do it.
Speaker 1:If you have ESPN Plus, they have a billion things on a day that are just so random. You should get it for a month. It's like $8.
Speaker 2:Is that on?
Speaker 1:me yeah.
Speaker 2:I have three accounts. The whole point is, I'll get to a situation where I need to see something live and I'll either like forget my passport or something and I just like freak out. So I have to like. It happened at the Georgia game.
Speaker 2:It was the Georgia spring game two years ago because I was trying to watch the game one Georgia, so I didn't get to see most of this, but there's a lot to be excited about with Georgia. I think there's always a lot to be excited about with Georgia. I think there's always a lot to be excited about with Georgia, with the talent they have on that team. What I was mostly looking forward to is how does the offensive line look? By losing two pretty big pieces like Amarius Mims, it started like eight games. He's going to go in the top 15 picks in the draft. That's a pitch that Kirby will have in his pocket for the rest of his career.
Speaker 2:And then, obviously, cedric Van Praan at center. He was both those guys. So how's ETN going to look? And then I feel like we've been waiting for not even just someone, but specifically Dom Lovett, aaron Smith, to be in their breakout era, and it seems like Dom Lovett really finally had that moment. I didn't know Aaron Smith was still in college. I'm not making this up. Tyler, me and Connor did a top five breakout players in 2019, and he was on mine.
Speaker 1:He's still there.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yikes, yeah. So he had seven catches for 100 yards. In the game Carson Beck looked okay, I'm not worried about him.
Speaker 2:There's fans that were talking about controversy.
Speaker 1:I'm sure, but I don't think there's a controversy. But yeah, I think the receiver room they're not like the LSU offense where it's like you have two studs. I think they're just going to have a bunch of guys across the board that are, at any given day, are going to pop off for 100 yards. You've got Anthony Evans, a true freshman, who's really talented. Three catches for 75 yards in this game.
Speaker 1:The kid from Miami, colby young, who's got. He's like a real big body. He's been a highlight in camp. He had a touchdown catch and another third down conversion, um. So Kobe white's a freshman who's caught some buzz in camp. He had a go the go ahead touchdown in the fourth quarter, um. So I think that the receiver room as a whole is going to be good. But, yeah, I'd love to see Rah-Rah Thomas step up. You know he hasn't really been much since he transferred from Mississippi State. Who's the little guy that was always good. Can't think of his name right now. So receiver room should be good. I mean, running back room I think is always going to be good. Defense looks great. I michael williams. They moved to outside linebacker. Uh, he's finally healthy for the first time.
Speaker 1:So I think that linebacker crew is going to be awesome for georgia again.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think they're like physically and from like a just like a blue chip standpoint, like they're like they're recruiting, like they could be up there with not as good as 2021, because that might be unattainable with the dudes they have there, but they are going to be very, very good, very, very good. Bill and Bill yes, that's who I was thinking of.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I will say this I think the thing with Georgia, the one thing that stood out to me, and we haven't seen this in several years, but they really didn't utilize the tight ends at all, which makes me even more excited for the season because, like Oscar Delp is going to be the guy I think, like that seems to be the case he's got the most playing time, even behind um or it's like early in his career and playing behind Bowers, all that kind of stuff, but like dude, lost and lucky, I feel like is going to be a nightmare Like this season or next or both.
Speaker 2:Like we just didn't see Bobo do a lot of that.
Speaker 1:What a name. Lost and Lucky, yeah, yeah, I think George is going to be pretty good this year. Chris, I'm just going to go out on a limb.
Speaker 2:We're going to talk about the new odds to make the college football playoff, and it's hysterical what those are.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah Is odds to make the college football playoff and it's, it's hysterical what theirs are. Yeah, yeah, uh. It's like by the non-shuffler to win the masters and then he's no, it's way worse, it's way worse. Uh, before we get to bama, miami, apparently, cam ward looked really, really good and they're going to be very aggressive in the portal and building some playmakers around him, so I'm interested to see what happens there. Um, they're one of those teams like an Auburn. There's another big NIL team that's got money to throw around these days. There are a couple of key schools. I think Miami is going to be in that, so, but Cam Ward looked awesome, so Miami could be a sleeper this year. Let's get to Miami or to Alabama. I'm sorry. What, what, what stuck out for you? Obviously Milrose, the guy headed into the year. What do you think?
Speaker 2:um, so just the whole thing is weird. The whole thing is weird, man, um, because like, saving, it's like at the masters, like the night before, and then he's coming into the game and it's just it's exciting, I think, because it'll be it'll be obviously very different, um, so I was very confused because, look, the offense was up like 24 nothing in like the second quarter. Um, early on they looked good, like they, but they looked good because they moved right down the field, like with a couple of like chunk plays, like a you know jay miller, off, uh, left tackle, I think on the first play of the game, like 26 yards. Then the next play, um miller hit what I can't remember his name. Now he's a transfer, he's extra for stretcher twice Michigan State to Washington. Now that's like Jeremy, something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the Jeremy.
Speaker 2:Bernard, yeah, but the one takeaway, which is weird have you seen the way he spells it.
Speaker 1:He spells it like germ I-E. I don't like that.
Speaker 2:Jeremy. Sounds like somebody was just calling him that as a kid because he had a sunny nose. He's like you know what?
Speaker 1:Fine, I'll just call that for the rest of my life. His real name is Frank. I stole this shirt from Frank.
Speaker 2:We were talking about that last night. You were in the first day of school. In first or second grade there was always some kid whose family was. Obviously they moved here from somewhere else. This poor teacher would have to read just nothing but like like syllables, just consonants, and it was. It was a tough. A lot of like a lot of H's and K's or something.
Speaker 2:And then they'd be like, oh, actually it's James. It's like, no, fuck, it's not. Oh, it's not All right. So here's the thing that I'm going to allow myself to have as a takeaway and not be an overreaction Something Baymo fans have not seen in a minute. But the first drive and then even the second drive. They did this to a tee where you get chunk plays through the air. You get down inside the five, six-yard lines through big yards after the catch on the second drive and then obviously, like I said, the 50 50 yard bomb on the first drive as well. But when they got inside anything inside the five yard line, they ran the fucking ball and that's something we have not seen consistently. It was better last year, Did they run it effectively?
Speaker 2:Yeah, they scored it they scored a touch on the first play with justice Hayes. I was a little bit bummed that he only got three carries. Didn't love that. But my whole point is, especially with this type of optics and how people perceive what this office is going to be under Kalen DeBoer. They're going to throw the ball 40 times a game right. But when they get to the goal line, play football, run the fucking ball.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was running back last year before he got hurt, before the playoffs, didn't he have a shit ton of touchdowns? Probably yeah. I think it's a classic staple. This is what Norvell does at 4-6. It's spread them out, chunk plays, but then power run game. Right, you got to have the O-line to do it and you should have a pretty decent O-line there. I know it's been down the last few years.
Speaker 2:Any word on the O-line and how that looked. I mean, they were missing like four starters apparently, so it wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be.
Speaker 2:I'd say I watched the first couple of drives and then I went to go be back and hang out with everybody. They've got a lot of talent on the team. I think that it's going to be very interesting to see what they do with the portal, because this is the team that everyone is assuming since January, because they had to sit there and fight with both their hands set behind their back. I'm very interested to see who they go for in the portal.
Speaker 1:Here's the thing.
Speaker 2:I think what.
Speaker 1:But you can't take any from the SEC right.
Speaker 2:No, you can't.
Speaker 1:That kind of scares me a little bit about my roster.
Speaker 2:Well, we lost like a full starting 11 last year to you guys. What I expect is and this is just my assumption, so it doesn't mean like it's what will happen I assume that Kalen DeBoer is going to go get a bunch of dudes he probably has seen film on that are a diamond in the rough type thing Non-household names.
Speaker 1:Yet he needs to go straight to Oregon and Utah.
Speaker 2:I agree, I would love you know where he should go Arizona, yeah, I would love you know where he should go, arizona, yeah. But I would love if they got one big name in the portal, not Caden Proctor, not that one, caleb Bounce. I would do unspeakable things for Caleb Bounce. I would. I don't even care. That would be something I think would be a big win, cause it would also continue to shut down, shut down the um the false error that he can't recruit.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I think it's. Uh, Alabama is going to be one of the most fascinating teams to watch next year. Just to see how it all unfolds in year one with the board Um.
Speaker 2:Is this a transition into the worst thing I've seen in 17 years?
Speaker 1:I don't know the picture I sent you earlier.
Speaker 2:Okay, let me see if I can pull it up. So, guys, I don't not as many people were as shocked by this when they saw it as I was, but I saw this today on Twitter and it's an actual list of betting odds for college football teams to make the playoff Just not to win it, just to make it. On Twitter, and it's an actual list of betting odds for college football teams to make the playoff, not to win it, just to make it. Georgia fans I know Harry LeGuy's in here, a couple other ones in here as well You're going to want to just stick around for a second, because I've never seen this. We've also never seen this playoff before, but I've never seen this.
Speaker 1:And at the stage, but I've never seen this.
Speaker 2:And add to Sage Let me zoom in, Chris Huh.
Speaker 1:I don't know how to zoom in outside of just doing this.
Speaker 2:I sent you just the picture itself. This is the picture. That doesn't make any sense. Okay, all right, so here's the deal.
Speaker 2:These are the odds to make the college football playoff. I don't see what book they're from, but you look at the very top there. The odds to make the playoff, georgia is at minus 900. Yeah, that's what stood out to me most, tyler. And then you want to take a wild guess. What stood out to me, I don't know, three to eight seconds later? Kansas State, no, sure, but keep going down, keep going down.
Speaker 1:Well, I don't see Bama on there. When's the last time you've seen that 2009,.
Speaker 2:Maybe they won the national championship that year.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, but what pre-season they weren't supposed to, were they? I don't know?
Speaker 2:but either way, I'm just like I feel like they probably would have had top 12 odds that year. But either way, it's just I was shocked. I was shocked and also, I will say, a very dirty part of me, kind of like in the next breath, was like that's kind of cool, like it feels everything is more open, even though you look at the like how top heavy those top two are, cause that's, that's who's most likely going to take over the sport of college football. Now, but yeah, man, I mean like I would. I just assumed the social media guy made a mistake. But like that's, that's the state of college, the college football right now. Bama does not have favorable odds to make the playoff and they're not even in the top. What is this 12 to 14 to make it? So this is going to be a really fun year.
Speaker 1:Yeah, considering it's a 14-team playoff, that's pretty shocking. 12. Yeah, sorry, 12. It's pretty shocking that you wouldn't see Bama up there. But at the same time you add Texasxas into the uh sec, so that's another, and they have to play georgia and texas next year in the regular season. So I mean, and then you got old miss there as well.
Speaker 1:That's taking a step up with the roster this year, so I'm not totally shocked that they're not in the top couple teams, considering it's a and this is going to change, by the way, in the next as we move to maybe our next topic with the transfer portal opening up yeah, spring, there's a 15-day window that opens up tomorrow.
Speaker 1:So, as a lot of you are listening to this podcast opening up today, uh, april 16th, and it's open up for 15 days, I believe, and essentially it's just going to be a free-for-all. I mean, if you're a D-tackle, a D-end quarterback, a receiver, I've heard those are kind of the four positions where if you're maybe like second team on a really good team, or maybe you're just on a lower level team in your first team, those guys are going to be commanding a lot of money on the NIL space and you can see a lot of movement If you listen to national shows like Josh Pate or Cover 3, these guys are all saying there are going to be big names, that a lot of people aren't expecting to hit the portal or at least put their name in it and maybe see what they can feel.
Speaker 2:As far as offers even though NIL is not pay-per-play, of course- Side note I didn't put this in there, but multiple reports coming out that two schools having an issue paying their NIL so far USC and Ole Miss.
Speaker 1:Yeah, usc had quite a couple guys hit the portal that just came in early enrolled. They're freshmen and they're already in the portal, not surprising. You've seen USC take a step with a bunch of Southeastern recruits recently in the 2025 class that are from Georgia and stuff like that. There's just no way that those guys are going to end up at USC, I don't think, unless they figure out the NIL stuff. There are teams Miami might be one of them as well. I've heard the NIL check doesn't quite come due every time. So, yeah, portal season. I mean, look, I hate it, but it is what it is. It's going to be a wild next couple weeks. So we'll keep you guys updated on, obviously, any of the big moves that we see happening.
Speaker 2:You know real quick, quick, one of the things that pate said. That is like when he said it, it like my initial reaction was like oh, I didn't think about that. And then like after a couple seconds, like yeah, that of course that's what happened. It makes a ton of sense. He's like that's what this kind of era can breed within il stuff. He said that he's talking to like several coaches like around the country to different places, and a lot of them have the same you know feedback about like what's going on, which was a lot of the guys that are injured in the spring. They aren't injured, right, like it's like that.
Speaker 2:That is also like, to be honest, like the famas quarterback's uh situation with with ty simpson there in the backup, there's a bunch of people that, of course, immediately after the spring game, immediately, were already back on the. Jalen Milrow shouldn't start train and actual media people saying it because he was three of nine in the spring game or whatever. It feels like some of these kids are also going to use this as a, especially at a big school like Bama or a Power 5 school. This is an opportunity where you get to kind of have like a showcase right and and then like stick it out through spring, be a teammate all of those things are positives and then figure out who can, who can sign you and put some money in your pocket and like get to a situation where you could probably start yeah, which I mean this.
Speaker 1:Ultimately, that is a good thing for the players. It's just once they open up this idea of being able to transfer wherever you want as many times as you want. It's just. I don't know. There's got to be limitations, but it seems like the more we bitch about it it just keeps getting worse.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:We follow up with a little drip. Don't rest in peace, oj Simpson.
Speaker 2:Dude, what Dude.
Speaker 1:I thought this was a joke. I made a thing.
Speaker 2:You see, guys, it's funny because he had cancer.
Speaker 1:Cancer is not funny in itself. Cancer is not funny.
Speaker 2:It's not funny. It is very soothing for what he did. Listen, I think I've told you this story before, but one of my most quintessential dad stories of all time is I got a phone call. I'm not making this up. I got a phone call on Thursday night one time from my coach in college. Um, in college, and my dad was like crying because he found out he got cancer. He had he had like stomach aches all year and he found to the doctor they found out he had cancer I don't remember what kind it was so he had surgery like the next day my dramatic 19 year old ass was like I gotta shave my head. I gotta do all these things so people know and he had surgery the next morning and then by like sunday it was gone and never an issue.
Speaker 2:and he had surgery the next morning and then by like Sunday it was gone and never an issue again. So he had like a weekend of cancer and there's like you have like four weeks of a shaved head Right.
Speaker 2:Um no, OJ Simpson died. I didn't know he was sick. Uh, apparently he posted some things on Twitter. This is like I saw a lot of good memes that came out about this A twitter. This is like I saw a lot of good memes that came out about this. A lot of people like were I mean, listen, he murdered two people.
Speaker 1:I didn't know he was approaching 80 years old yeah 76 years old. Um, yeah, he did murder two people. That was crazy, and he didn't even have two people. Yeah, he didn't have to pay any time for it was crazy, um dude hold on one of the things.
Speaker 2:I've watched that doc like a million times and it's so fascinating because all the intricacies of like, what led to that, from like from all the different places, not just with him. What amazes me, and like I will never be in disbelief whenever he's brought up, is that as soon as his name is brought up, there are people that are still actively like man, well, he first off, he didn't murder him, he was acquitted and it was like right, I guess. My main question every single time somebody says it is like if it wasn't him, why have we never had a single suspect at all?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I mean I'd say like most sane people would get accused of murder, get acquitted and then write a book that says I didn't murder her but if I did, here's how I would have done it.
Speaker 2:If I did it and, by the way, you know how the thought for that book came out if you watch the doc they said this he called a writer that was like doing a news story on him from like like newsweek or some shit like that that came out to stay with him for like a week. He called her afterwards and he pitched the idea to her. That wasn't like. Someone was like hey, man, do you need some money? He was like listen, I have an idea. I have an idea like first off.
Speaker 1:I can get away with anything incredible um, how do you think his daughter, chloe, is taking this? Is that his? Daughter that was a rumor, I don't know.
Speaker 1:It's a legend yeah, uh yeah, I, I think the oj thing man, like when I think back to like very memorable events happening, like current events when we were young, like outside of 9-11, I think the oj trial is probably the one I remember the most what you just said is one of the most uncomfortable stringing together of words I've ever heard, but it was completely fair and accurate.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was really concerned where you're going with that.
Speaker 1:No, no this was as serious as nine 11.
Speaker 2:I was we're going to get it Okay. I mean, like I this is, but it is one of those things you remember where you were I was watching hanging with Mr Cooper at at my stepdad's house in the Bronco. Yeah, I was pissed man. I was trying to watch Holly Robinson Peete, but the whole story again. I've watched that doc. I've made Allie watch it, like three weeks ago. It's just so good, it's done so well and it's so fascinating. Where is it found? Netflix, espn. It came out like in 2017. 30 for 30?. It's called Made in America, america, oj simpson. There's another one, good. There's another one called oj simpson, a study in black and white. That's really good. Um, but yeah, like that is. I mean just, and this is.
Speaker 2:This is another event, too, that it would have been so awesome to have twitter when it was happening live you know what the weirdest part about oj simpson's life became, and like out of all the things because besides, the weirdest part about OJ Simpson's life became, and like out of all the things because besides the murder part. Somebody said this and it made a ton of sense to me, for how fucking batshit crazy and insane and narcissistic and sociopathic and horrible he was in real life.
Speaker 2:He was one of the most normal and like sane dudes on Twitter out of any, out of anyone like like you. He would have been my first guest to be like. That guy's going to say something real crazy.
Speaker 1:And he was just like hey friends, how's everyone doing? Oh man, um yeah. So, like I said, drip don't rest in peace. Yeah, he's ours. Um, all right man, we'll don't rest in peace. Yeah, he's the worst. All right man.
Speaker 2:We'll go file your taxes. That's the last thing. We'll look at this and I'm going to throw this out there. We probably won't execute it. We tried to do it last year and it could just be fun and we don't have to do it for the whole time.
Speaker 1:NFL draft is next.
Speaker 2:Thursday we love the NFL draft and I haven't seen the prop bets that have come out yet, but I know they will come out. Me and Tyler still talk about this like once a month, our favorite prop bet maybe ever in any sporting event Will there be at least one cat shown in the first round of the playoff, because everyone was at home in 2020. And I'll never forget Tyler saying I feel like Tristan Wirfs is a big cat guy he sounds like he's a big cat guy Two cats, two cats.
Speaker 1:By the way, he was from Iowa. I just assumed that he was white and he wasn't. That went into my thinking you got a Tristan Wirfs. He's this big ogre white guy from Iowa. He's probably got cats you.
Speaker 2:You made money and broke stereotypes that night yeah, I did um.
Speaker 1:Who else do? We had um something with tua, I can't remember. We want to bet on two.
Speaker 2:I think two also had a cat, maybe oh, he got injured going to the stage probably yeah, yeah, yeah uh so yeah, we'll find our best prop bets and we'll do.
Speaker 1:We'll get it. We'll get another show out. You said the the draft is next Thursday. Right, it's next Thursday.
Speaker 2:We're kind of dumb. I don't think we're going to do another show this week. Maybe I'll get Drew to come on and we can talk about the portal a little bit, because tomorrow could be crazy or it could be nothing. We'll know at midnight. Tyler, it's not like they're going to start negotiating. Stay tuned for that, guys. We appreciate you all tuning in. Like Tyler said, next week we'll do a show on Monday, then Thursday, the day of, or Wednesday night. The night before we'll do a show previewing round one of the draft. I feel this out to Tyler. We don't have to do it for the entire night, but I wouldn't mind doing a stream and having a couple people on and reacting live to some of the stuff. It does take a while. It does take a while for some of the picks.
Speaker 1:What are we going to do with the 15-minute between picks? What do we think we'll talk about? I'll do some stand-up. Maybe we can have some of the listeners in on video I'm totally down for that.
Speaker 2:I'm totally down for that. We can have a free for all. Um, also, I I implore everyone, if you are going to the draft, if there's a way you could sneak in a car horn whoever is picking first, if that pick is not in at the one second mark, like as soon as the clock starts, because there's no reason for it not to be, that is the ultimate lay on your horn, because the light is green in the turn lane, deservingly so.
Speaker 1:Where's the draft this year? I think it's in Detroit. Okay, I don't think that's going to be a popular destination for folks to go to. I could be wrong.
Speaker 1:I've heard that actually, but it still doesn't seem like a place that you would really just want to get to. Absolutely not, no, Everybody. Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Five Stars give us a review. If you've given us a review in the past on our previous named podcast, please do so for Forth and Wrong. We'd really appreciate it. As always, we'll read the best ones on here. Shout out to the other fourth and wrong pod that is somewhat disturbed by us having the same name. Yeah, Please, reach out to us. We'd love to have a little friendly wager about who can outperform who or whatever. We're all friends here. We don't want to fight but again no for Chris, I'm Tyler.