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FALCONS GOT THAT BIG PENIX ENERGY - NFL Draft Live Preview and Recap
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T Huck and Marler start the pod previewing what they think could happen in the first round of the 2024 NFL draft. The draft board is set, and the stakes are sky-high. Dive into our the preview where we dissect receiver values, scrutinize the impact of salary caps on trading scenarios, and place our bets on the most intriguing prospects. We deep dive into JJ McCarthy’s shifting draft position and Xavier Worthy's combine performance that turned heads. Will the Giants snag a receiver? Can the Rams pull off a Cooper Kupp trade? We're peeling back the layers on these draft day bets and predictions, offering insights that just might give you the edge in your own draft debates.
(0:25:37) As the draft dust settles, we’re not shy about tackling the shockers – the unexpected twists with the Falcons selecting a QB, Kool-Aid McKinstry's stock, the quarterback grab that dominated the top picks, and the trade strategies that left us reeling. From Georgia's draft dominance to LSU's continued legacy of talent, we're dissecting the moves that left jaws on the floor and fans buzzing with excitement. Don't forget to tune in to our post-draft analysis, where we’ll react to the most jaw-dropping outcomes and celebrate the triumphs of this year’s picks. The NFL landscape has shifted, and we're here to map out the new terrain.
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2024 NFL Draft Preview and Predictions
Speaker 1Oh no , what's up guys . Welcome in to the 2024 NFL Draft Preview . Very excited , very excited . Year 9 since this specific thing happened with Emory Tunsil Still funny , still funny . Anyway , very excited to start the show . Hope everyone's having a fantastic day .
Speaker 1I'm going to bring in a special guest . You guys might've seen him before . Get in here , look at , look at who it is . What's that ? I want to wear the gas mask . I don't know how to do that . That was that took a lot , all right . So , for those of you joining us , we did this . Wear the gas mask . I don't know how to do that . That was that took a lot of yeah , um , all right . So , for those of you joining us , we did this . Uh , we started this yesterday and we'll continue it .
Speaker 1Um , just a daily version of the podcast . Fourth and wrong daily , as you can see from the uh , what do you call it ? If you guys have suggestions on what we should be doing for the background colors and branding , I , I've overthought it , I'll admit it . It doesn't really matter , but that's where we are . All right , let's get into it . We've got Tyler Huck and yours truly , chris Marler . We're watching live . We're an hour to go , less than an hour to go until the NFL draft starts round one of the 2024 NFL draft . This is like our favorite content of the year . Man . What's up ? Jeff Williams or at least for me Like I love the prop bets that we do for the Super Bowl stuff , but this is so much fun , like we talk about it a bunch , we're going to talk about it again . What's your favorite prop bet you've ever made ?
Speaker 2Because it's one of my favorite ones that's ever happened . So the year of COVID , when everyone was getting drafted from home , which now it kind of feels like it's kind of weird Some of these guys like prefer to just stay at home when they get drafted . You know they're going to be a first round pick , but yeah , it was how many cats it was like over over under one and a half cats shown on TV . When someone was drafted , I went over and we nailed it . Tristan works had like three cats . We nailed it with one draft pick .
Speaker 1Yeah , that was one of my favorites as well . As you can hear in the background , guys Pepper's here , hold on , take us away for a second .
Speaker 2Okay , yeah , excited for tonight . I know the Falcons will probably screw it up somehow . Been seeing some pretty interesting rumors about the Falcons will probably screw it up somehow . Been seeing some pretty interesting rumors about the Falcons potentially trading with the Rams and the Rams trading Cooper Cup to the Falcons . Don't know if that's true . All these Twitter rumors you get at the final hour before the draft are insane . But I think the theme for the draft that I've seen is a lot of trades are expected . A lot of people want to move up for wide receivers , offensive linemen and QBs . So , with that being said , even though you didn't put it on our graphic , I love the over five and a half QBs selected in the first round .
Speaker 1Well , so I was going to put the numbers at four and a half . I couldn't find the odds . I was using Bovada , but I couldn't find the odds on five and a half .
Speaker 1I don't because I don't think Bo Nix goes in the first round . But I will say this when I made the graphic , that was my thought was that Bo Nix is not going to go in the first round . I feel like we've seen him mocked all over the place . Is he a first-round talent ? I don't know . I don't know . But then , like about 30 minutes ago , our buddy , graham Coffey , posted today that within the last hour his odds to go in the first round had plummeted , or maybe skyrocketed , however you want to phrase it , to minus 180 . So he might be right 180 .
Speaker 1So , oh yeah , penix going or penix going , wow , penix going to the first round . Um is kind of surprising to me , I , just because he's so old . But this , you know , this isn't baseball . We've we've seen like there's not as much of a uh , an issue or a red flag with guys that are older just because they're older . Um , you know how old is he ? 23 ? He's going to be 24 . He's a six-year COVID kid .
Speaker 2Oh yeah , you could get 10 , 12 years out of him . I mean I wouldn't Like Kirk Cousins . The Falcons just gave him how many millions of dollars and he's 35 , and he can't move at all .
Speaker 1Let's talk about that for a second , because this is one of my favorite things about doing this show now is that before the main show that we do once a week in the offseason , twice a week in the regular season , every Monday night , you guys tune in the live show 8 to 8.30 on YouTube and all good stuff . But one of my favorite things about doing this is that we can talk about whatever we want to . Both of us have been whatever . The opposite of blessed is to be lifelong Falcons fans . And I will just tell you this I have a prop bet with them that they are going to draft Dallas Turner first . I fully believe it . In my heart of hearts . They are not going to do the wrong thing . If they took Latu from UCLA , I would be fine with that . I would be fine with that . I think he's a great prospect . You could make the case . He's better from a production standpoint , despite the injuries , than Dallas Turner .
Speaker 2I actually like Byron Murphy better than both , but I'd be fine with all three . I think you get a lot to later . I think you're going to be right , though I think they're going to draft Turner unless they trade down .
Speaker 1If they take a g5 corner , cornerback me . You and our old producer , dan matthews , have joked about this forever . The falcons , the most falcons thing they can do every single fucking year is you're in a position to go get a dude from georgia , a dude from the sec , a dude from the SEC , a dude from the ACC , some big-name prospect from a very good , tradition-rich school , and they go out and get some shit from Pacific Northwest and if they go up and get Quinion Mitchell , I will yeet myself into traffic . He's currently . Here are the current odds on the number eight overall pick Dallas Turner is plus 200 . Latu plus 230 . So it does feel like they're going to go edge rusher there . Brock Bowers has the third best odds at plus 400 . I would be ecstatic over that .
Speaker 2I mean , don't get me wrong , it would be awesome to have Bowers on the team , but I mean you go Pitts , drake , lemon , b , john Robinson and then another tight end in the first round . That'd be crazy . I'd rather like , if they're going to do that , I'd rather them go , because it seems like one of the top three receivers is going to drop . My hope of all hopes is that neighbors , somehow people start drafting up and neighbors fall to the Falcons . I would love for that to happen and I would go after a receiver , because they have Drake , london and then they've got . They signed Daryl Mooney as their number two , which is fine , but I think it's a better three . So if you can plug in neighbors and then if neighbors isn't there , I prefer they draft Murphy or trade back , because to me I think there's not a huge difference between Turner , verse and Latu .
Speaker 2If you could trade back and get one of them , I'd rather have Latu or Turner . Don't get me wrong , but I'd be totally fine to pick up more picks and get Verse at like 20 . If he's there .
Speaker 1For some reason my internet is of course shit Anyway welcome to the chat Jeff Williams , dakota , eddie Booza .
Speaker 1We appreciate you guys joining us . All right , so we made a graphic earlier today about our favorite bets . Now listen again , we're less than an hour away , so some of this needs to be updated . I put this in a couple days ago as jg mccarthy to go fourth overall I . I thought it was a good bet . Those numbers have changed a bunch . Um , your , your slotted picks right here is from what you have hold on a second . Uh , here , I put that up . Yeah , why does it look like that ?
Speaker 2I don't know how to make it not look like that . Okay , that's fine .
Speaker 1It's very blurry , but so Tyler has Trey Benson Now , to be clear , he does not think it's going to happen tonight . Byron Murphy , the first defensive player drafted at Oklahoma 70 . Jc Latham is an interesting one , because JC Latham is . I think I could be wrong Bama fans , don't come after me , because I am one I don't think he's that great . I don't think he's a top 15 pick .
Speaker 1But if you look at the numbers again from this and this is Vegas always knows right Jaden Daniels , for instance , he was minus 300 yesterday to go number two , he's at minus 6,000 . Jaden Daniels is a done deal to go to Washington . You keep scrolling down here and you go to five , and that's where the Chargers have a pick , their best odds of who they're going to take JC Latham at plus 225 and JJ McCarthy at plus 250 . Yowzers , because I've heard nothing but Joe Alt being the guy at tackle . So JC Latham , though , having the best odds there is very surprising , because all I've seen mocked so far is him at around like 14 to 18 . And now we're talking about him being a top five .
Speaker 2Yeah . So a couple guys that I like following for this stuff obviously your main ones like Jeremiah and McShay and all those guys . But Josh Norris on underdog usually does a really good job too . A lot of them have JC Latham going to the chargers at five . Right , they don't trade out as the first . So you know , right now is the ads .
Speaker 2I took my odds from draft Kings . They had Latham as the second best odds to go first overall , obviously Joe Alt being number one . So I thought that was good value because it sounds like a lot of people are hearing that Harbaugh really likes Latham . Got to go up against him last year so he got firsthand knowledge . Turner is the first defensive player as far as best odds off the board , but I've been hearing a lot about Byron Murphy moving up a ton over the last couple weeks Difference maker on the interior , which I don't think . There's a lot of great interior players in this draft . So I thought that was a pretty . I've heard the Falcons may be interested in taking him at eight . So I don't think any defensive player is going to go ahead of that before the Falcons pick . That's fair . It's kind of a good year to need defense , you know , because it seems like the whole first round is basically offensive players .
Speaker 1Well , and you we talked about this in the last episode of like the main show and you brought it up that like there's a little bit of a shift in terms of what's most important . Like in the past we've seen quarterbacks left tackle and an edge rusher Right , and now you talk about , like the most important , important parts of our things draft receiver most important important parts of our things draft receiver . There's 21 first round receivers taking the last four drafts , which was the most , I believe , for any non-quarterback um position in in the uh , in the entire draft . So there's a lot of them here I I'm excited to see because the last four picks are very , very interesting . You talk about like the chiefs . I believe the eagles are back there . I don't have it in front of me ,
NFL Draft Strategy and Player Predictions
Speaker 1the Niners .
Speaker 2Apparently they're looking because of the way that their capital or their cap is structured . They may have to trade one of Iuke or Debo Right , and so there's thought that they may take a receiver back at the back end of the draft .
Speaker 2Yeah , I'm interested to see . We know in some sort of order it would probably be marvin harrison , adunze and neighbors , but then that second tier which is like ad mitchell , xavier worthy , lad mcconkey , keon coleman , like that tier , that second tier , I'll be interested to see . Because of it , if we're always surprised slash , not surprised when there's more quarterbacks taking them in the first round than we thought , maybe the receiver is becoming that position where people draft up to get a receiver , because these guys , you know , when you get drafted in the first round , the team gets that extra year to get your contract on that rookie contract . These receivers are getting paid so much damn money when they get off their rookie contract . So you may see some of these receivers get traded up for in the back half of the first round . Yeah , I'd like to see a . Does the Vada have a ? Uh , first round receivers ? Yeah , they do .
Speaker 1Um , also again , and I am keyed into this one thing , tyler , and it's jj mccarthy , and it's partially because now , now I'm , now I'm I'm having to to double down on everything I yesterday I had it plus 350 , put down something small on that and that is a . You know that , like , like plus 350 is not bad and I posted the graphic yesterday . We don't have it in here , of course , but like it was just fascinating to me because if you look at his numbers okay , if you look at his numbers , it's from a single day ago . It was plus like 6 000 to go first , and then you looked like two , it was like plus 550 , and then three through , it was between plus 350 and like plus 475 or something like that , right , anything over six , anything over six was , I think it started at plus 2,000 . Anything over six .
Speaker 1And now you look at it right now , the current update on it has JJ McCarthy over under five and a half is under . That is , plus 185 . But him to go in the top 10 is minus 1200 . So I don't know , it's a trade-off situation . You brought up the receivers thing . Let's get back to that and I'll stop talking about the one thing that I have bet on here .
Speaker 2There is rumors that the Giants have interest in McCarthy at six , like no trade , just take him straight up . There's rumors , obviously , that the Dude I could easily see I don't have a good feel on McCarthy stuff because I could easily see McCarthy being the guy that we always see that shows up for the draft and has to sit through the entire first round and not get drafted . I don't know if he'll be that , but I could see him going later than like even on Jeremiah's latest mock draft he hasn't gone . The Vikings taking him at 11 straight up , like not having to trade up for him .
Speaker 1So back to what you said . You brought the receivers and that may be like the thing that happens the most . Ben , he just goes directly where he's slotted because no one needs to trade up and there's no panic involved . In this year it seems like for the top five picks everyone is kind of slated or slotted to where it's like we know what we need , what we need is available . We're just going to go from there . And there's also some generational like guys , the Cardinals . There's no reason for them to really trade and not get Marvin Harrison at four . You know what I mean . So , um , all right . So total receivers we can do this position by position by position . This is again um from Bovada and it's positioned by position for total blank selected in the first round you brought up receivers . Right now it's it's over six and a half Um . It's plus 300 for over , minus 500 for under . I don't think there's a bad idea to take a flyer there because of the fact what's the number ?
Speaker 2six and a half . Okay , so you got the top three . Then you've got brian thomas , you've got ad mitchell , you've got uh , xavier worthy , xavier worthy and you've got AD Mitchell . You've got uh , xavier Worthy , xavier Worthy and you've got lad . I think those are probably the eight that have the chance . Yeah , I don't think lad will go in the first , but you could see the others , cause there's been some late talk on worthy . You know he set the record at the combine for the fastest speed ever Got . You know got to look at the combine for the fastest speed ever got . You know gotta look at the Raiders at 12 for yeah , I think .
Speaker 1I think after he ran that I put out the video that McGruber remember McGruber the movie , when he's like fucking the corpse at the , at the what do you call it ? At the cemetery . I was like this is Al Davis , the moment like he sees this . No so wide receivers like under 6.5 , that seems like it's pretty solid there . Quarterbacks is over 4.5 . It's minus . I'd go over Hammer that .
Speaker 2Oh yeah , minus 500 .
Speaker 1The juice is pretty bad , so total offensive players .
Speaker 2Do you have the ability to do outline on that , because I'd go over five and a half . You can't , I don't see it at least .
Speaker 1Let's see here First defensive player taken , dallas Turner is now what do you call it ? The juice is now on him at minus 135 . He's the only player with that let's see . Total cornerbackbacks in the first round over 5.5 . The under is at minus 520 . Total defensive linemen the number is at 6.5 . Kind of good betting on both sides here . You've got over plus 175 , under minus 250 . Total defensive players in the first round over 10.5 . Is it minus 175 , under ? Is it plus 135 ? I kind of like that .
Speaker 2Um total offensive line yeah , yeah , it's supposed to be . What's the o-line number ? Like nine and a half nine and a half yeah , I know I've heard at least eight are going in the first round . That's insane . Yeah , then you got the kid , the center center from Oregon . That might sneak in late , but yeah you've got . I think O-line receiver and quarterback will probably have the most .
Speaker 1Yeah , in the total office of players over 21 and a half . That's , I mean , kind of shocking . Are there any ? They have matchups here as well . Is there anything you like there ? I will say that one of the things , where do they have ?
Speaker 2Latu in the matchups . Let me pull it up here .
Speaker 1I think Latu the position they will get picked . I'm going to see if I they have . Latu versus Byron Murphy Latu is plus 155 . Murphy minus 220 .
Speaker 2Yeah , I think Murphy will go first .
Speaker 1Yeah , I think that makes a lot of sense . I'll tell you what this one's interesting to me AD Mitchell or Xavier Worthy . I like AD Mitchell to go ahead of him , but it's plus money on it , plus 200 . Really , xavier Worthy is minus 300 . I think it's probably not like that big of a difference in the order of neighbors is minus 350 , adunze is plus 225 .
Speaker 2um pennington , bo nicks , uh , quinn mitchell , troy fontenot actually , if we go back to that , I I think so from what I've read from a lot of people is that the the giants prefer a dunes a over neighbors . Okay , so if it gets to their pick , I think they're gonna go dunes a . So that might be a . That might be a decent pay . Well , is that ? That was pretty good odds , right ? Yeah , um it was .
Speaker 1It was hold on neighbors .
Speaker 2Yeah , that is a lot of value there , plus 225 added to t-hawks big board a dunes , a over neighbors plus 225 .
Speaker 1Let's do that I like that top five pick .
Speaker 2Yeah , real quick while you're going through that , david fox says there's four qbs , two wide receivers and one o-line and go in the seven . Don't the Falcons have to take the third receiver ? I think they do . I think if you can get one of those receivers I know it's crazy to go four straight drafts drafting a skill player but their receiver room . If you're going to have Kirk Cousins for two or three years , you need to build a team around him . The cheapest way to do it is to get top-tier receiver talent . I mean , I get they don't have a pass rush still , but I think you could get like a decent enough . You may be able to trade up in the back half of the first round if you have enough draft capital , or you could get a pretty decent player at two , although I will say you know there , although I will say , you know there's going to be some decent receivers on the board at the top of the second round .
Speaker 1Yeah , this is a deep receiver draft . Another question for our buddy , Jeff Williams what SEC team has the most player draft tonight ? I will say this I think this will be a year where it's much closer than it has been in years past . I do think it will be Alabama , I think , and the reason why is like Dallas Turner is probably going to be top 10 . Jc Latham we've seen now projected anywhere between 5 and 15 , and he has very good odds of going to the top 10 . And then Terry Arnold will be a top 15 pick .
Speaker 1And here's the thing the one that was , I thought , the surefire lock going into the season and have been shocked that the number has dropped and his stock has dropped , is Kool-Aid McKinstry . He comes out and he runs a 4-4-40 . I mean , that's like you just turn on the tape . Just turn on the tape , like that kid is . He has been absolutely shut down for the several years that he's there , makes big plays when he needs them . His number has come down to . Will he be over under the 28-and-a-half pick ? And the juice is on the under .
Speaker 1So I do think they will have four . Georgia should have two or three . They could sneak in late in the first , obviously , marius , mims Brock Bowers and the other one LSU , which is , you know , that's an interesting three for sure , probably two in the top ten . That's an interesting three for sure . Um , probably two in the top 10 . That's an interesting thing to look at later on because it's you know , I see it bickered about between Bama and Georgia fans a lot Like if you're and we see it in the sec as well but like are you , are you doing less with more ? When you have all these draft picks ? And like LSU man , you just it's . It's hard for some of those . I think it's hard for some of those fans pepper says hey to swallow that like in the future of if that team had a defense , they probably could have competed for a national championship . Because you're talking about don't start , don't start If you , if you had a defense . You're talking about three first round guys , two receivers and a quarterback , like that's insane .
Speaker 2Yeah , I mean obviously offense wasn't a problem and those three guys put up a ton of numbers . But I'm trying to think , and I don't necessarily know , along the O-line and D-line , but like what other players they'd even have drafted this year . For who LSU , LSU Like if players they'd even have drafted this year for who ? Lsu , lsu . It's like if those three guys are going the first round and then they might have another player drafted .
Speaker 1No , they'll have another play drafted . Mason smith will probably go around the third round . He'll be a top 100 guy and a couple other guys , but , um , yeah , it's . It's surprising because they will have it's a very top heavy year for uh , for lsu . Um , all right , so the plan is most likely right . We'll . We'll come back at the end of the the first round . Um , take through some of our , our picks , see what , see what um , where those landed , and then also have our reaction . But you got anything else for for the preview um , no , what's .
Speaker 2what do you think is going to be the biggest shocking move ? Do you think someone's going to trade up for McCarthy or do you think somebody I don't know ? Do you think anything shocking will happen ? Because remember , last year , like AJ Brown just got– or two years ago , aj Brown just got traded to the Eagles in the middle of that it's the NFL draft .
Speaker 1I think this is the year we've heard the least . Round just got traded to the eagles in the middle . Yeah , I , it's . It's the nfl draft , like we had it's . I think this is the year we've heard the least like . There's been so few things we've heard about . It's like like where anything bad could happen . I would be . I would be shocked if , um if , if there wasn't something that we're talking about on the post post first round show . Because , like because , because at some point somebody's gonna going to get trigger happy jump up , wait , they're going to overreach . It happens every fucking year , every fucking year .
Speaker 2I wouldn't be surprised to see some sort of high-level talent be traded . Like I mentioned earlier , there was a rumor that the Rams could trade Cooper Cup as part of a package to move up . The Niners are looking at possibly trading Debo . I think that's yeah . Yeah , I think someone is going to . I think someone is going to trade . I think what ultimately I think will happen is the Broncos might trade down and take Knicks later in the first Because apparently they're in love with him . I don't know why he kind of looks like he'd fit in in denver . That's actually a really good point . Uh , I don't know why . I think he just kind of looks like I don't know a guy from denver yeah .
Speaker 1So I think blake bowers makes a good point about next thing . I'll tell you what like blake bowers dangerously close to brock bowers . There a good point with the Bo Nix thing . I'll tell you what like Blake Bowers dangerously close to Brock Bowers . There are rumors that the Rams are going to trade up and possibly take him . And here's the other thing too Tyler Like one thing that I think is going to be super interesting . It happens seemingly every year , as of late . There are certain franchises that are in love with certain schools . You see the Eagles that love to take Georgia players .
Speaker 2A lot of Bama players . The Patriots used to go to the Bama a lot .
Speaker 1Right . So I wonder if that will be something that we see again . And also we saw that the Eagles have been very active on the first two days the last two years . Anyway , we appreciate you guys joining in . We're going to call it . I'm going to go put some chicken nuggets in the oven . Get ready for round one . I appreciate you joining me . We're going to say this a bunch just because we're trying to build this channel and all that good stuff . But please like and subscribe All that good stuff . We love you guys and we will see you a little bit later . Peace . This is so much . Fucking .
NFL Draft Recap and Analysis with Marler
Speaker 1What's up guys ? Welcome in to the Second half of this Podcast Show , whatever you want to call it . I apologize , I'm not sure why the . Hopefully the stream is not messed up , but Hold on , I'm just gathering my spirit .
Speaker 1First round of the NFL draft recap show . It is over . The first round concluded tonight . Not that crazy , but then also pretty crazy . Just some very odd moves . We'll get into all of them . I appreciate you guys joining . Hopefully you guys watched the pre-show . I think we got like one pick right .
Speaker 1It was a very chalky start to the draft . We'll get into some of the numbers and the full takeaways as well . So , first and foremost , like and subscribe to the channel if you guys don't mind . Appreciate it Trying to get this thing off the ground . Hope everyone had a fantastic evening and all right , let's get into it . So first round is over , right off the bat .
Speaker 1Just looking at the numbers , conference by conference , the SEC finished with the most picks , I believe for the 17th straight year in the first round , or at least like 12 out of the last 13 or something like that . And what's up , evan Grimes , we'll get to your questions in a minute . Make sure you put some questions in the comments section as well and we'll go from there . It'll be a very uh , um , nonchalant is the best way I can phrase it show . I'm sorry I'm out of celsius , I've had so much today , um , and it was a lot of fun . But so back to the sec finishes with the most picks .
Speaker 1In the draft they finished . Or in the first round of the draft , again , they finished with 11 . Kind of a late , a little bit of a fury at the end with a couple of picks there Ricky Pearsall going to the 49ers , okay , from Florida , and then you saw the Panthers trade up to get the last pick of the first round . They actually I thought this was pretty cool . The Panthers flat out told Xavier Leguette , if he was there when they had their first pick , they would go get him . And they did , which is in an age of of smoke screens and kids being told different stuff , um than what is actually . Uh , true , I thought it was pretty awesome that the Panthers kept their word and they got a kid from their backyard . Um , if you haven't heard his accent , there's no better way to phrase it . Um , it was pretty awesome .
Speaker 1So , uh , that is the numbers from the first round you had . Let me pull up one of the mini graphics that I've made . Had a blast tonight . Had a blast tonight . So the numbers from the first round you had the SEC with 11 , the Pac-12 finishing with eight . Second most , the Big Ten , the ACC both finishing with four and then the Big 12 finishing with three . You also had a couple picks from G5 schools and then also Notre Dame , so that's why the numbers are up 32 . But the SEC finishing with the most .
Speaker 1Again , all right , just kind of going through the picks . Obviously , caleb Williams goes one . I said it was very chalky at the start . Not a lot of craziness until pick eight . I wanted to come on here and do an instant reaction to this with Tyler immediately , as two lifelong Falcons fans the Falcons , if you did not watch , good for you . That's emotionally healthy and stable .
Speaker 1The Falcons took Michael Penix with the eighth overall pick . Why is that a surprise ? Well , if you pay attention to the offseason , they paid the most milquetoast quarterback possible $180 million with Kirk Cousins , which I actually like that and then drafted Michael Penix at eight . Let's just get into why this is infuriating . If you're a Falcons fan , michael Penix would have been available later . His actual draft um spot , uh on draft kings , fando , all that kind of stuff . It was at 32 and a half . He was a fringe first rounder even though everyone thought he would go in the first round , but it was much later .
Speaker 1If you're the falcons , you could have traded back . Could have traded back , probably got enough like a defensive end . Everyone thought they were going to go defense , especially with the new hires or he more um and the fact that you finished dead last in the in the nfl in the last three years with total sacks with only 81 , it seemed like it would make a lot of sense to go get latu or dallas turner . You could have gotten both those guys if you traded back . You didn't . You wouldn't get michael penix .
Speaker 1The weird part about this , on top of all the things I just said , is the fact that they didn't tell kurt cousins until they were on the clock . I fully understand you want to , you know anonymity or or secrecy or what the fuck ever , but not telling cousins until until you're on the clock . If you spend 180 million , just very weird , very weird . Didn't love it . Um , that that was . That was my first big takeaway . Obviously that was just bizarre , very bizarre um .
Speaker 1After that you saw some of the more notable picks . Uh , coming out of there you had jg mccarthy , um going 10th overall . Um to the vikings . You had six quarterbacks taken in the first 12 overall picks . It was the most , I think , in that many picks in the history of the draft , which is nuts .
Speaker 1Other notable things that we talked about beforehand kind of shocking , I think they went 23 overall or 23 total picks , I'm sorry , 21 total picks in the first round without a cornerback being taken . That is the most , I believe , since 1995 , which is very bizarre because it's a very , very good class of cornerbacks . I mean you had terry on arnold who I think a lot of people thought would go number one . He ends up going , um , I believe , second from the dbs . Uh , queen and mitchell goes first to philly . Um , kind of surprised by that move because philly has been very , very adamant and consistent with getting SEC guys specifically from Alabama and Georgia . But they still go get a good one .
Speaker 1The kid showed out at the Senior Bowl , so it's not like it's a bad pick or anything , just kind of odd . What else , yeah . So then you didn't have a ton of cornerbacks . Taken , you , the Chiefs trade up . What else , yeah . So then you didn't have a ton of quarterbacks . Taken , you , the chiefs trade up to get Xavier worthy . I felt like the moment Xavier worthy ran a four to one that he was destined to go to Kansas city . You know , like it's not , like they're still replacing Tyree kill because they they've obviously won a Superbowl without them . But that's , you can't teach speed , which I thought was really awesome .
Speaker 1Going back to some of the SEC stuff I know a lot of our listeners are more SEC . Brian Harsin is in shambles . Going back to more of the SEC stuff you had three LSU players drafted in the first round . You also had two receivers drafted in the first round . I thought it was funny . Their wide receiver . You is definitely , I think , between them Ohio State and Bama . You could probably make an argument for any of them . But LSU coming with their fifth receiver that was drafted in the first two rounds in the last five years Five different receivers drafted in the first two rounds over the last five years Really really impressive . It's the second time they've had two first-rounders as well in the last five years .
Speaker 1What's up , mike , can't believe the Bills did this to me . Yeah , so the Bills just kept weirdly trading back , but trading back in a way that was like , eh , it wasn't like they were trading to get a ton of picks , it was just like , yeah , we'll move back like one or two spots . Like what , what are we doing here ? Um , how about darius robinson from mizzou going ? Uh , in the first round ? Thought that was really great .
Speaker 1Um , georgia , brock bowers goes 13 . I , I listen . Brock bowers could have been a top five pick from a talent standpoint and he goes 13 . I think if you're Georgia and Kirby smart , you have some really cool selling points here . One , brock Bowers is one of the most decorated tight ends in SEC and maybe cultural history , especially over the last five years , been really , really good .
Speaker 1You know , there's a part of it was hoping the Falcons would go up and get them , even though they have pits , but he goes to the raiders . Um , hopefully that works out well . Uh , I don't even know who the quarterback is for the raiders right now . I think it's the ziggurabalos though . Um , but he , he seems like the one guy that that everyone agrees on is gonna . It's like I can't miss prospect .
Speaker 1Um , the other thing is a marius mims . Marius mims goes 18 overall to the Bengals , which is a lot of people had JC Latham slotted there . Amarius Mims , who's a physical freak just like , probably the biggest freak from an offensive line standpoint in this entire draft . Hey , listen , this kid had eight career starts and he was a first-round draft pick and arguably the second most important position on the entire fucking field . What an incredible thing to have in your back pocket when you go to recruit some . That is phenomenal , phenomenal . So just another example of Kirby being able to just a tremendous job , of him being a developed talent . I believe that is their 17th um first round pick under kirby since he's been there um in in just eight short years , which is really , really impressive . Uh , let's see what else bama has . Three guys go .
Speaker 1Very surprised that kool-aid mckintry didn't go . I I don't know if it's a big deal or anything like that , I just like cooper dejean didn't , or deijon or whatever his name is , he didn't go either . I was kind of surprised by that , just because I think both were . You saw them anywhere between 18 to the end of the first round . Neither of them went , which is kind of shocking . Let's see what else . I mean , what were y'all's takeaways here ? I know we talked about the pills . Jared Verst is a cool story . I was wondering if the Rams would try to go get him , the Dolphins getting Chop Robinson from Penn State , I'd say . One storyline that's pretty impressive is the fact that I know we talked about Brian Harsin here for a second .
Speaker 1Kayla DeBoer , you want to talk about some ammo to have on the recruiting trail . You had three players drafted from this last year's team in the first 20 picks of the draft . Now , not all those kids were recruited by him , but they . You know that's not always the most important thing when it comes to recruiting pitches and stuff like that . So three kids in the top 20 of last year's Washington team . Love that you had four different SEC schools with at least one draft pick oh .
Speaker 1I'm sorry , I'm wrong . You had six . You had six different SEC schools with at least one draft pick Florida getting in there with Ricky Pearsall , which was just again . Like I don't Fuck it , I'll say it . If you were going to draft a white receiver in the first round , I thought it would have been Ladd McConkie . But that's just me , let's see . What else do we have here ? Here's a fun fact . So Saban is on his first . Saban finished his first I don't know His new job . How about that ? His first night at his new job . And on college game day , apparently he dropped a GD on a hot mic , which is very on brand . So we'd love to see that .
Speaker 1Also , you had three players from Alabama drafted closing out his career at Alabama , which means he had a total of 52 first-round picks while being the head coach at the University of Alabama . He had 52 first-round picks in 17 years . To put that in perspective , that is more than 11 different SEC schools . It's as many or more as 12 different SEC schools . So 12 of the other 13 possible schools in your conference , that's more than they've had first-round picks all time in program history . Saban did that just during his time in alabama . Um , it was more than every team not named florida or alabama . That is insane , just insane also means that since the merger , uh , and in the nfl merger in I don't remember what year it was things like 67 maybe . Um , that 67 , maybe . That means Alabama has had more first-round picks since 2019 than Auburn has had in program history with 20 . So that is going to be a lot of fun to say on Twitter .
Speaker 1Anyway , evan Grimes , I know you're here in the chat . You're active . What's going on with you ? What are we thinking Tomorrow ? I don't see . I think you'll see a heavy again . I keep using the word fury or flurry too much , but I think that the top half , the first 10 picks of the second round , all feel like they're guys that could have easily been first-round picks .
Speaker 1Other surprises Bo Nix going 12 . Bo Nix going 12 was kind of shocking . Like they can make up , make it up for tonight . They move up and get lad . I guess I don't . I mean , but yeah , bo Nix going 12 overall . I mean , honestly , a cool story . I always love when people do the best thing for them , especially from a mental health standpoint . It seemed like getting out of Auburn was probably the best move for him , probably the best move for both parties . To be honest , just because it had gotten to a toxic point , he goes to Oregon . Obviously he's in a much different offense . I wouldn't even say that , not in a negative , about Dan Lanning . I don't think Lanning , a defensive guy , is the one that developed Bo Nix into a first-round quarterback , but it's cool to see him have success there . Still a guy that had tremendous success at Auburn early on as well as a true freshman starter . But he goes 12 overall to Denver .
Speaker 1And again you had six quarterbacks taken in the first round , some names that are still on the board . Ad Mitchell is a guy that I was kind of shocked at Because , listen , I love Xavier Worthy , I love . Ad Mitchell is a guy that I was kind of shocked at because , I listen , I love Xavier Worthy , I love the fact that he ran a four to one . You can't teach that , like I said , but AD Mitchell at six , two , two , oh , five . You talk about 40 pounds heavier than Xavier Worthy and to do that ran a four , three , five . I mean , my God , like I just . Ad Mitchell checks every box for me . On being a first round pick , I was kind of shocked that he did not go first round overall .
Speaker 1Transfer QBs getting drafted in the first round ? Yeah , I mean , which just seems to be the thing . I tell you , what's cool about that ? The transfer quarterback situation of them getting drafted . Evan says here in the chat four out of the six QBs drafted in the first round were transfer QBs . Right , caleb Williams ? Obviously , I think it's . I mean Jaden Daniels and then Bo Nix and then Michael Penix . Why I think that's really cool is because we're seeing so many stories now of these kids that you know like the best example and the one that really felt like it started , all I know Baker Mayfield did his whole thing , but like and Kyler Murray as well , but I mean Joe Burrow was an afterthought . Like Joe Burrow was an afterthought at Ohio state . You heard some of the stuff that that urban Meyer even said to him about . Like you know it's probably motivational more than anything , but how he wasn't good enough to play there and he was probably just no better , no better than a D2 quarterback . And then he goes and has arguably the greatest single season in college football history at LSU . That's tremendous and I love the fact that some of these kids are getting , I mean , life-changing opportunities , which sounds cliche , but it's not . I mean , that's just , that's insane . So four out of the six total quarterbacks , the only two that did not transfer were JJ McCarthy and Drake May . Really really cool stuff out of that as well . I appreciate that . That's a good point .
Speaker 1Ghost Mike says enjoyed saving on the broadcast , laughing . He casually said he wanted to tamper with the Toledo kid . See , I didn't see that . I feel like I missed out on some of the broadcasts that I should have been watching . Like Tyler was watching the NFL Network , I heard that might have been a better broadcast as well . I was just watching regular ESPN . I'm not sure if the college game day crew was on ESPN 2 or what , but , like I said , I missed the saving hot mic dropping the GD , all that good stuff . But yeah , that's pretty hysterical .
Speaker 1Let's see what else we got here . We'll wrap it up here and then we will , I guess , be back on Monday with a full recap as well . That'll be with Drew Butler and me . So the end of the first round , like I said , by the numbers , again you had the sec finishing with the most picks for like the I don't know 14th , 15th straight year in the first round .
Speaker 1Really really impressive . Again , the fact that it was from six different schools is also still really really impressive as well , because for a while there you had eight picks and it was only from three different schools . So having 11 picks from six different schools kind of speaks volumes about what we already knew and the sec being so good , and not just that one specific top heavy school or one or two . I guess um , nick savin ending his career , I guess really finally here , uh , with some of the last stats you'll see , and him having what was it ? Um 52 first round draft picks , while at alabama again , more than 12 of the other 13 schools in the SEC have had all-time Really tremendous stuff there . A kid from .
Speaker 1Duke getting drafted in the first round . Another Clemson DB getting drafted in the first round . A lot of cool stories . Texas back in the first round again , which is great . They had two guys go and I'll tell you what . Just the last thing . We'll close on it Mizzou having more first-round picks than Oklahoma and Tennessee . You'll love to see it . I see them fight on Twitter every single day . Good for Mizzou having a little feather in the cap and a notch on your belt . All right , that is all . Tyler should get this up tomorrow . I hope you guys have a fantastic weekend . Enjoy the draft , enjoy whatever else you're doing . We will be back , like I said , on monday night uh , at 8 30 for the live show . It will be most likely with drew butler , and you'll have tremendous evening . Thanks , guys .
