SEC vs Creed songs and Ranking Week 1 Games

Rock anthems meet SEC football! Chris Gordy from Locked On SEC joins the show and we blend the power of college football with iconic tunes. Discover our take on the new SEC on ABC logo, predictions for weeks one to three games, and entertaining studio tales. Experience prime-time tailgating traditions, analyze marquee matchups, challenge stereotypes, and rate early-season games with our unconventional scale. Dive into SEC shake-ups, including Texas A&M's roster, Ole Miss, and Miami gameplans. We discuss NFL controversies and appreciate our amazing listeners. Tune in for the ultimate college football show!

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Speaker 1: 0:01

Oh, there we go.

Speaker 2: 0:02

She said they're backed up, but we are here anyway.

Speaker 1: 0:05

Welcome in to fourth and wrong, the daily college ball podcast. We are here on a Thursday, may 16th, 830. We had a special start times. We have a special episode tonight with a special guest. We'll get to in a second before we get to him. Do me a favor and like and subscribe all that stuff on our YouTube page. It would be super helpful to me and Tyler and the show and all that good stuff.

Speaker 1: 0:29

It's been a really good start in the first month or so. We've got some really good content coming on and the daily show has been fun as well. We are joined now by a very special guest who gets the name of our podcast wrong every time I'm on his show. I won't do that to him. He's on Locked Up and Abroad SEC football on the. No, I'm kidding, Locked On SEC. One of my favorite people, Chris Gordy, how are you?

Speaker 2: 0:54

man. What's up man? Yeah, good to be here. I also like how you said 830, because you just assumed that you know everybody lives in the stupid East Coast and about. You know 70% of the SEC is in the central time zone. So yeah, get with it. It's always funny, though, because when I preview games, typically what I do is I give the time zone that the game is in. So if it's in Athens, I say it's Eastern. If it's in Tuscaloosa, auburn, baton Rouge, wherever what is the breakdown of that now, to be honest? Well, I mean, Texas and Oklahoma are both in the central time zone, so we just added two more centrals.

Speaker 1: 1:28

So Florida, Georgia, South Carolina Is Tennessee in the east.

Speaker 2: 1:33

Tennessee's in the east. I never wait. Hang on, let me check. I always forget.

Speaker 1: 1:37

on Knoxville, I think it's, I know it's not.

Speaker 2: 1:39

I don't know where Lexington is.

Speaker 1: 1:45

Yes, knoxville is eastern, but nashville is central, right, right, right. So knoxville, gainesville, athens, columbia, I don't know where. Lexington is, lexington, central, your wife would have that right. It's eastern, eastern. That's five out of 16. So quick, off the top of my head, that is about 31.8 percent good god, pretty good.

Speaker 2: 2:03

Where'd you go to school? Oh, 31.8% Good God, pretty good. Where'd you go to school?

Speaker 1: 2:07

I was 31.3%. Georgia College State University.

Speaker 2: 2:13

Anyway listen.

Speaker 1: 2:13

this is a special episode. I changed shirts for the first time in like two weeks. I was starting to tell people I was just in my Josh Pate era and I was just only going to wear a couple shirts. I just really honestly, it's hot as hell outside. I've got this lovely Target getup. I've been rocking for quite some time, but you do have some nice files on the shelf. So, what is that?

Speaker 2: 2:35

It's like the scoreboard thing, but it makes me go out of focus. Sometimes it's called a tidbit. It's pretty cool, okay, okay.

Speaker 1: 2:42

Well, tidbit, it's pretty cool. I've already thrown out the idea of the show. Hold on, let me make sure we're getting here, please, and thank you.

Speaker 1: 2:57

The main stake of this show, the heart of it. The majority of what we're going to talk about is pretty much one of our go-to things creed, creed songs. We I am it's the 16th, so I think that I we're at 64 days from media days, which means I am, like, I think, 69 days until creed uh, the creed concert me, my buddy, brian grooms, going, so I'm pretty fun with that. We're going to compare SEC teams, coaches, players, whatever to Creed songs. That should be a lot of fun. Tell us in the comments what we should be some of the comparisons you guys have come up with as well. And then we are going to talk a little bit about renting the week one to week three games. What the hell is this that ESPN released Right off the bat, real quick, gordy, were you as upset or angry about the new logo?

Speaker 2: 3:50

No, I think it's pretty cool. It's like a what a shield with SEC on ABC and it almost with the lighting behind it. It almost looks like it's in the same universe as the Monday Night Football logo. That's fair. So yeah, I thought it was cool. Looks like like it's in the same universe as the monday night football logo, that's fair. So yeah, I thought I thought it was cool. Now I did laugh my ass off when, uh, cbs announced their first big 10 on cbs game is going to be notre dame at purdue and I'm like, yeah, good luck getting people excited for that one. Like gary danielson and brad nestler I haven't heard, I assume they're both back, but they're gonna like you're literally gonna hear the here we are last year.

Speaker 1: 4:29

Just they had, you know, they had ohio state at indiana and like, and it was like it was like they were, they were feeling it out. It was before at sec, I think they did like a triple header or something like that. It was like it was a 12 o'clock game and then the 330 sec game, but it was like, um, and I'm pretty sure gary and brad were on the big30 SEC game, but it was like, and I'm pretty sure Gary and Brad were on the Big Ten one and it was like Ohio State at Indiana, which is god-awful to say the least. But anyway, I didn't think it was as bad as everyone made it out to be. I'll just say that.

Speaker 2: 4:59

People are really upset over the logo. It's a logo. Who cares? It's the internet. People are upset about everything really upset over the look. It's a logo. Who cares the internet? People are upset about everything. Well, I'll say this, though the biggest change and I and I don't think a whole lot of people realize this, but like for the past, whatever 20 plus years, like the game of the week in the sec has always been 230 central 330 eastern on c.

Speaker 2: 5:19

And now that game is going in the 630 central, 730 eastern abc slot, so like we're gonna have way more night game like georgia and bama and all. Now that game is going in the 630 Central, 730 Eastern ABC slot. So like we're going to have way more night games like Georgia and Bama and all these schools that have been so conditioned to have all these damn 230, 330 games every week. You're going to have way more night games. Now you know if you're playing marquee opponents because they want the prime game on ABC, how?

Speaker 1: 5:42

long do you think it takes SEC fans to bitch about that? Because, like I'll give, I'll give you my take on and I'm just using this I'm not saying it's because this fan base, whatever. But georgia fans, they hadn't had a night game in like two years. They had a ton of 12 o'clock starts and it was ridiculous, especially when it was like during their run, where they were like they had won back-to-back natties, um, and they were just begging for night games. I think they got two at least last year and there's like big ones, right, it was like kentucky.

Speaker 1: 6:07

I think they got old miss as well, um, but like I'll say this, and when we were, when I was growing up, we had season tickets to bama and we would go from atlanta to bama and it was always cool to have a night game. It was sick, right, it was like, you know, seven o'clock start, the the lights, you're under the lights, lock the gates, let's fucking go. But then getting out of an SEC stadium not everyone's just walking to downtown or somewhere local Traffic is going to be a nightmare in some of those places. So I think it'll be funny. I think it's just the nature of fans in general. It won like it won't take that long for them to start complaining about it.

Speaker 2: 6:48

Yeah, no doubt. But again it's like, at least you're going to get a full day of tailgating, you're going to get a full day of student sections getting liquored up. And you know what's funny is you say, is somebody going to bitch? Well, we're still like the best SEC game will be at 6 30 at night. The second best game is still going to get that 2 30 time slot. Um, you know, right out of the gates, we know opening weekend, miami florida is getting the 2 30 time slot.

Speaker 2: 7:13

So yeah yeah, like the second best game is going to get that time slot still, so it's just going to be a flip aroo. It used to be like if you were the second best game, you'd be espn or sec network that night. Instead you're going to go to the afternoons. The best game is going to go tonight yeah, well, either way, it should be interesting.

Speaker 1: 7:30

Um, I just had to text my girlfriend who says you are talking about traffic like an old man, so she's not wrong about that. Um, seamless transition. Since she messaged me. I want to get your thoughts on um women's vocations and what they should be doing with their lives from the Harrison Bucker. I'm kidding, we're not going to talk about that at all.

Speaker 2: 7:48

Well, I just want to, as someone whose wife makes way more than I do and gets raises all the time. Look, I chose a life in sports, talk radio and podcasting, so she is definitely the breadwinner and I'm cool with that. I still wear pants. I'm still wearing pants around the house. I'm still the man, but she makes more money. There's nothing wrong with that in the year of our Lord, 2024.

Speaker 1: 8:09

I wear pantsuits, so that's a different story for another time, but anyway, okay, anyway. So here's what we're talking about. Like, real quick, let's talk about the early games that we saw. I just want to like rate your excitement, the early games that we saw. I just want to like rate your excitement. Give me like on a scale out of one, you know what, fuck it, we're not going to do one, We'll do one to 69. You tell me your excitement level for these games that they have just now announced. Let's see here. I'm going to know it's like so that Friday, I believe, is, or Thursday is North Dakota state, colorado. What's your excitement level for that? And we can also go 1-10 if you want.

Speaker 2: 8:45

Well, I mean it's interesting just because it's standalone, right. There's very few games going on that day and it's our first glimpse on if Shador and Travis Hunter are supposed to be first-round picks and all that. This is our first early glimpse of that and this is a stat pattern game. They should put up a bunch of yards and points and all that kind of stuff, and you know we did. I'm sure we'll touch on it later, but the NCAA football video game they revealed the cut, the official cover, today, and it is Travis Hunter front and center and I think a lot of people I think your average college football fan may still not know who he is because he was hurt for most of the last year. Yeah, I think people know Shador, but, like, if you saw a picture of Travis Hunter, could you pick him out of the lineup? Are you that familiar with him? No, I just think a lot of people aren't. The thing is Gordy.

Speaker 1: 9:34

I view it in a different way where I think I don't think you're wrong.

Speaker 1: 9:38

I'm saying I think that there's Travis Hunter was the number one player in the country coming out of high school and if it wasn't even for that, I'm like I wouldn't be able to pick out who was the kid last year that went to Ohio state.

Speaker 1: 9:50

Um, jeremiah Smith, I probably wouldn't be able to pick him out, but number one player in the country coming out of high school, coming out of Collins Hill, same region as where I went to school at Parkview, um, then having the fact that he had this like very viral moment where he chose Jackson state on signing day, I feel like the above average fan probably could tell. But here's the other thing too, with Colorado fans. A majority of Colorado fans are either Dion fans or excited because they like sports and it's like more of the I'll say I'm supposed to put this they're more of the sport fan that loves the ESPN morning show type situation and it's just like you know, they want to have takes, they want to talk about stuff Without doing a ton of research. It's more of a casual thing. But I mean, I don't think you're wrong.

Speaker 2: 10:39

Yeah, I just again it's. If this were a game being played on Saturday afternoon, we'd have no interest in it. It's just fun because it's early and it's our first glimpse at Dion in Colorado.

Speaker 1: 10:51

Yeah, I agree with that. So what's the rating? What did you give?

Speaker 2: 10:55

it, it was out of 69. Yeah, you can do it out of 10. It doesn't matter, 14. Really.

Speaker 1: 11:03

Out of 69. Honestly, I think you're going to end up being more excited for that one, because let me tell you why. It's on a Thursday night. It's also weird that Jackson State plays too Thursday night, 8 pm. That's the start of the first weekend of football. You also get UNC at Minnesota that day, which is so interesting. There's something else on the slate. How about this? Let's go back for a half second. Any interest in Florida State versus Georgia Tech in Dublin?

Speaker 2: 11:31

Yeah, I mean it's funny. I was just in Dublin a year ago at this time and everywhere we went there was Notre Dame stuff everywhere and I'm like oh, the cliche right.

Speaker 2: 11:40

They're like no, no, notre Dame's going to come play here. Who did they play? Was a Boston College or somebody that they opened? Yeah, they played week zero over there and, um, everybody I've talked to by all accounts said it was awesome. And then a story came out today that LSU and Brian Kelly are apparently exploring LSU wanting to go play in Ireland. So it's a, it's a cool deal. I mean, with the time difference it ends up being an early game here. I like that. They've been doing them kind of as the week zero, so yeah, so I think it's a good one, because Georgia Tech's been a little bit like arrow pointed upward, right, like on the come up.

Speaker 1: 12:19

I tried to do this last week and Moscone was like why the fuck are you talking about Georgia Tech? And I was like I like Georgia Tech and he's like no one likes Georgia Tech, it's not. It had hands down the fewest views we've had on any show since we started. But no, I think you're right. And listen, florida State's had a lot they're replacing. They got like six Bama players. For me there's a ton of story. Dju, right, yeah, dju's going to be the quarterback there. How about this Friday night? This one kind of pissed me off. I love that first weekend. You get Thursday through Sunday A lot of good stuff there but on Friday you get TCU and Stanford. It's a 10-30 start that sucks. Getting into the main stuff on Saturday, though right.

Speaker 2: 13:03

Real quick. I just want to say that Thursday we get an early look. Because I'm an SEC hawk, I watch all the SEC games. Arkansas plays Arkansas, pine Bluff, mizzou plays Murray State. I get there's no much interest there, but these are the games. To one, we get our first glimpse of Bobby Petrino and Taylor Green, the new quarterback from Boise, coming over to Arkansas. What does that look like? And two for Mizzou Brady Cook back and Luther Burden. If Luther Burden is going to be the Heisman conversation against Murray State, this is a game where he could easily have 85 yards, two touchdowns and be benched by halftime. And we move forward. So it's two crappy opponents, but they are playing on the Thursday night, starting off the college football weekend and with a crappy slave game. Why not get an early scouting report on a couple of SEC?

Speaker 1: 13:45

No.

Speaker 2: 13:46

Arkansas especially that is.

Speaker 1: 13:47

That is something I watch All right. So going into Saturday we've got. Let's see here, Vandy opens with Virginia tech. That's interesting. How awesome would that be to have Vandy open with a win. I will say I'll tell you this real quick on Vandy we're not going to get, they won't. But Virginia Tech is going to be better this year. It would be awesome, as a flex from the conference, to have your first Power 5 versus Power 5 game of the year between the SEC be a dub against Virginia Tech. Coming from Bandy Clemson, Georgia Tech is at noon, Miami Florida at 3.30.

Speaker 2: 14:19

Wait you said Clemson Georgia Tech, it's Clemson Georgia. Clemson Georgia Tech, it's Clemson Georgia. Yeah, clemson Georgia at noon, I think they you're an Atlanta guy Like it sucks that. It sucks that that game's at 11am. Like you would think you'd want To at least hang out, maybe tailgate, maybe you walk around a little bit Like 11, you leave the hotel, you go right to the game.

Speaker 1: 14:42

Who cares? Are Clemson fans Going to get a while before the game?

Speaker 2: 14:47

No, I mean, George is like a two-touchdown favorite. I'm like, are we really thinking Clemson's going to be that bad?

Speaker 1: 14:55

Yes, I think George is going to whoop their ass dude, I think that is going to be a yeah, evan stole the line for me. I think it's going to be a bloodbath man Because, like, here's the thing, I just I think that Clemson has sat here and Dabo has really, really continued to put himself behind the eight ball and maybe Clemson fans still love him for it, but it's like like what is it? They're not going to win that game, they're not going to beat Georgia?

Speaker 2: 15:21

No, but it could be close. I mean it's a 13-point spread, you know, like let's say 31-21. It could be something like that If Cade Klubnick hits.

Speaker 1: 15:34

He throws a touchdown pass. Who's he throwing that touchdown pass to? Let's see, who do they, If they score on offense and it's not Cade Klubnick running it in who is scoring the touchdown. Don't look it up, don't look it up.

Speaker 2: 15:49

Well, that's the thing. Yeah, they got a new running back. They got new receivers. Yeah, I mean, look, maybe there's not a lot of household names on Clemson. Yeah, hey, look, as Dabo said, brother, we don't need the transfer portal. I mean, we got a whole group of transfers coming in. It's just they're coming from high school to the college ranks. Right, that's our transfer class, the worst thing.

Speaker 1: 16:09

We talked about that last night. I will tell you this the thing that I will never buy into Clemson anymore is I did a deep dive on this before the 2021 Georgia game the lack of recruiting and development at elite level. Development at elite level, um, even, really honestly, even at a, at a good level, um, on the offensive line for clemson is terrible.

Speaker 2: 16:30

Um, I do. I do what you're saying. I want to thank you. I'm like I know my crap through and through with the sec, but you asked me about clemson's roster, who I had barely even looked at this offseason. So why would you?

Speaker 1: 16:41

thanks for that. Um, I did see somebody post a thing with their roster yesterday. I don't care how this sounds, because it's my show and I've already. I think comedy is coming back and maybe canceling is not going to be as big of a deal, but there's 24 whites on that roster and that is just. That is too many whites.

Speaker 1: 16:59

Their roster is like you've done this as a married man. I had to do this one time. But like when you go pick out white paint with the missus and you go in and you're like, hey, here's duck white off, white egg white, eggshell white, like what? What I? I mean? It is that that that entire team is like so the level of white between michelle branch and vanessa carton? I don't know the difference between the two, but it's everywhere.

Speaker 2: 17:26

Well, my wife went to Kentucky and so you know we've been looking at all these players that Mark Pope is bringing into Kentucky and I and I joked with her I said when he said bring back the glory days, I didn't think he meant like the 1920s. Kentucky can't win with all white kids. Like what are you doing? So that's gonna be really interesting now it's, it's balanced out a little bit but like, dude, you, you're gonna try to win the sec with like a bunch of white basketball players.

Speaker 1: 17:50

Good luck well that'll be a conversation, conversation for a different day. I will say this too um, we're rolling through this and let's get to the creed stuff. Uh, I'm excited for a name notre dame a lot. I'm very excited for lsu, usc, because I think lsu going to whip their ass. I wish they would have flipped Florida and Miami. I think that would have been cool. Really good opportunity for Florida to open with a win there. Two coaches that have a very, very good shot to open with a very big win for the season and also for their tenure at A&M with A&M and Mississippi State.

Speaker 2: 18:27

Think of the dominoes there If Cam Ward who ends up at Miami. If Hugh Freeze had opened up the checkbook a little bit, maybe we're talking about Cam Ward at Auburn. Instead he's at Miami, and now a chance to go into the swamp, but that line is right around two and a half Like it's it's almost kind of a pick-em, so you know.

Speaker 2: 18:47

But I'm with you. Like Napier knows, the back end of that Florida schedule is absolutely brutal. And remember what happened last year. They won early, they impressed us, what. They were like six and two. We're like hell, yeah, florida and then or not. Six and two, five and two, but then they fell off. That could very well happen again this year. But this is almost like I don't want to say a must win, but it basically is like kind of yeah, he needs to win this one.

Speaker 1: 19:10

All right, let's get to the good stuff. We've talked about actual football for for quite some time. Um Creed, a hell of a comeback. A hell of a comeback. We were on this bandwagon before, I think, most people, and I'm fired up about it. I asked you before the show let's compare Creed songs to the SEC. You gave me three. Do you want to start, or do you want me to start?

Speaker 2: 19:38

Yeah, so I'll give you my first one. We'll start here. First one, um we'll start.

Speaker 1: 19:48

We'll start here this one's easy um caitlin deborah, are you ready?

Speaker 2: 19:49

are you ready? Because, yeah, look, I mean, this is this, is it? This is what he came to the sec for bama fans? We're not. We're not selling y'all. It's a transition year. We're selling y'all. We're gonna pick this thing right up where Saban left off. Are you ready? Let's go. And really this also goes for Kalen DeBoer. Are you ready? Dude, this is the SEC, this isn't Indiana or the Pac-12. Like, are you ready for this?

Speaker 1: 20:12

Yeah, and I just want to remind everyone again oh, you know what? Seamless transition, seamless transition. I'll give you my first one. What if? What if caitlin deborah is the right hire? What if? What if? Um, what if caitlin deborah is the right hire? Because here's the thing that people seem to always forget about when we talk with caitlin deborah he was coaching in a national championship game four calendar months ago. He was 25 and three in his first two years at washington. He beat sark twice. He beat Lanning three times. He's 5-0 against those two who a lot of people thought should have been the top two targets for Bama when they were replacing Saban.

Speaker 1: 20:54

I have been, admittedly, pessimistic and a little bit hesitant to put all my eggs in that basket. Listen, saturday August 31st, bama kicks off at 7. At 6.50,. I will be fully convinced that Bama's going undefeated and win a national championship. Lock the fucking gates, all of the above, but I will say this Schedule's brutal, schedule's absolutely brutal.

Speaker 1: 21:17

But, dude, what if he comes in? What if he does have the right hires? What if? What if all of college football, twitter and and social media who dogged this hire, like the people that know football, have been like this is a good hire, like. But what if, like? What if all those people, all the fans that were just like, have won this dynasty to die so quickly? Um, what if they're all wrong, because usually the public is on stuff like this so, um, you know what? If ryan williams comes in and it's like you know the the best part of that offense and jaylen milrow takes a step forward? I think everyone also very much assumes that jaylen milrow is the ceiling has been met, but I think the ceiling that people put on him was already too low and they had it on him before the season started.

Speaker 2: 22:05

I go the other way. What if Bama loses at Wisconsin? Feinbaum will be here radio that Monday.

Speaker 1: 22:13

Yeah, I think they're going to have four losses, but we'll get to that another time. What's your next one?

Speaker 2: 22:17

The next one. This one was kind of easy because I was singing it the other day One. Uh, the next one this one was kind of easy because I was singing it the other day one it's kirby. Smart, come on with. With saban gone, you know why? Hold down one to give to another. I mean, this is it. Yeah, like saban's gone, now it's kirby like it's funny.

Speaker 2: 22:37

somebody's doing the other like hey, rank the best college coaches. Like, okay, kirby, uh, uh, you know it's funny. Somebody was doing the other day Like hey, rank the best college coaches. Like okay, kirby, you know, it's like. You know, like Harbaugh's gone, you know, it's like okay, like really this could be with the playoff expanding, it opens the door for more SEC teams. But really, like the door is open here with Saban gone if Bama cannot sustain the success with DeBoer. Like what if Kirby takes this thing and keeps rolling and they you know the whole thing where they were going for the three-peat what if they have another one of those the next three years? Like what would happen? And Kirby and George are one and George is one center.

Speaker 1: 23:14

This could easily be like. I remember watching this SNL skit in like 93. It's the Da Bears, that that's good, and they had michael jordan on and I remember they they panned it chris farley and he goes. I don't think we're attacking a repeat, a three pete or even a four pete, we're attacking a minimum eight pete. And I was like and everyone laughed, it's like a ridiculous thing to say. And then you, you look up at the end of that and it's like, okay, they won three in a row. He played basketball for two years or baseball for two years, and then he came back and they won three more. So the only two years they didn't win, he won six out of eight. That's when he wasn't there. I think that's the kind of thing we're going to look up with Kirby at this thing, because I think I just you know it's going to be tougher with the SEC, but just don't Like it would have to be a massive drop-off.

Speaker 2: 24:00

Doesn't he get a little room for error now, like last year, he loses to Bama and boom, you're out. You're not in the playoff. Yeah, with the expanded playoff, you got room for error here and even if you slip up in an SEC title game, you're still in the playoff and you're still in the title, Jeff Roll?

Speaker 1: 24:16

What if Bama is back to the late 90s glory, which is an interesting comment to make, because in the very last year of the late 90s, in 1999, they went 10-3, beat Florida twice and also won the SEC Championship. So I hope you're right, Jeff. I ain't ever lost anything in my life.

Speaker 2: 24:30

Tyler. Hey, let me ask you this. I had some Oklahoma fans asking me about you know, because they get Alabama before the Iron Bowl and they were saying, like is this the first time Bama's had like it seems like Bama's always got a cupcake before the Iron Bowl Chattanooga, georgia State. Like it's always somebody like that, everyone does. But I forgot, from like 2002 to 2006-ish, lsu played Bama the week before the Iron.

Speaker 1: 24:57

Bowl. It was actually they played. It was LSU, mississippi State and then Auburn. That was the whole schedule. That was when they played 11 games too, but it was always that route and it sucked.

Speaker 2: 25:14

But those years they played LSU, it was Mississippi State. Before that, In 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, Bama and LSU played, and then the Iron Bowl and every one of those years LSU was ranked either top 10 or at least top 15. And those were the years where LSU was winning. They were winning that rivalry with Bama almost all those years.

Speaker 1: 25:31

I think Bama beat the shit out of them in 2002. And then 2005 was 2005,. You actually are right, because that was Georgia-Auburn. I was in Athens for that and LSU played. Bama went to overtime, bama was undefeated and Jamarcus Russell hit somebody for a touchdown, won like 16-13 or something like that.

Speaker 2: 25:50

From 2003 to 2007,. Lsu won five straight against Bama.

Speaker 1: 25:55

Yeah, alright, let's go to the next one. What do you got for your next one, or is it my turn? It's my turn. Let's see here. You know how about that sounds kind of lame. You know what? I'll use the same song One for Florida. And there was a reason why. There's a line in the song One from Creed where he goes I feel angry, I feel helpless. There's nobody in the conference that has those emotions more in tune on a daily basis than Billy Napier. Like nobody feels more angry and more helpless than Billy Napier with that schedule and everything that's happening.

Speaker 2: 26:34

Is he saying don't try to change my mind.

Speaker 1: 26:36

Probably too, because I think he also likes what he has down there. Like I think everyone has shit on Florida for so long I have. I said this this morning on radio I was like I have I've kind of become this like closet Florida fan because I want Billy Napier.

Speaker 2: 26:50

I think he's a good dude.

Speaker 1: 26:50

I think like it's not like Mullen, where Mullen was like not doing the job well, or Harsin, where they were like not doing the parts of the job they need to do and then doing the parts of the job they need to do and then like rubbing it in everyone's face, like Napier's working his ass off. He's, he's like he's doing all the right things. He's just got a fucking uphill battle, man. And also people forget this like it wasn't like Florida ran roughshod through like the SEC in the 2010s, but like Florida I mean sorry, tennessee and Georgia in like in comparison over the last 20-30 years during during that stretch, historically bad, just historically bad. Tennessee had five different coaches. Georgia was Georgian all the time. They couldn't capitalize on it. Now you look at it and it's like oh my God, my head on the table is a turn. Somebody said that's Willie. Gray says Florida should be one because that's probably their win total.

Speaker 2: 27:43

That's really good. I was going to give them one last breath, because this is literally his one last breath. Billy Gator, does this line work? Let's just bench Mertz and put in Lagway Kind of that's not bad.

Speaker 1: 27:57

Anything where you can end with vowels, that's all Creed is.

Speaker 2: 28:02

Give me your third title. I'm excited to see DJ Lagway, though I think that's his saving grace. When Sark had that crappy year two at Texas, the one saving grace was Arches coming in. I think that should be. Billy Napier should be selling that to the Florida fans. Go. You know, if you fire me, dj's gone right. Lagway ain't getting around here, so like that's the one saving grace. Now he's got like five and seven. Can you give me five and seven if not six and six? Dude, here's the deal.

Speaker 1: 28:27

I keep saying this, me and my buddy George are talking about this. He's a diehard Florida fan and I think I'll give you two examples. Bama could be really good and only win nine games. Florida could be really good respective to where their ceiling is and only win four to five games. That's how difficult that schedule is. But I'll tell you this hot take I think Florida starts the season 4-0.

Speaker 2: 28:55

No, they have Again. I keep going back to they have to Because they're not going to win a game later in the year. They have to go 4-0. By the way, shout out Evan Grimes. He said I've got the coldest Twitter profile pic. It's me and Lil Flip. Game over, is that it? Oh yeah, and in that cup is a cup of lean or purple drink. I love the way you said that. My last one is I'm going with my sacrifice and it is Sam Pittman. And why is it my sacrifice? Because he may have hired his successor in bringing in Bobby Petrino. I almost feel like if the offense is good and they still lose games, sam Pittman will be fired, and there is a world where Bobby Petrino could be elevated back to Arkansas head coach. If the offense is really good but they're losing games, that'd be tough.

Speaker 1: 29:51

That'd be really tough. Okay, I'll give you my next one. I already said what if you said are you ready? One we already did. Here's a quick one. What's this life for? Like? What the fuck? Just Vandy, you know what. I will say this I am starting the process of being irrational enough and delulu enough to tell myself that Vandy's going to be better than people think because they got Diego Paella or whatever his name is. Paella Actually, it's a Spanish dish that takes a very long time to eat. So if you ever go to a restaurant and you order it, you better get an appetizer, otherwise you and your significant other are going to get into a very, very big fight about it. Anyway, here's another one. You said Sam Pittman's was my sacrifice. I got my own prison. Because here's the thing, he kind of did all of this to himself. He comes in the first year, he's 3-7. But they knocked off somebody I think it was Mississippi State in week two. They shouldn't have.

Speaker 2: 30:56

They touched early, didn't they? That was a big win, right?

Speaker 1: 31:00

So Mississippi State had just beaten LSU, and then they had Arkansas come in and Arkansas beat them at home and then they win nine games.

Speaker 2: 31:11

Wait, when did Arkansas beat Texas? Was that Pittman's first year, 2021.? Okay, so next year?

Speaker 1: 31:16

Second year, so they win nine games in 2021. By the way, let's not forget, not only beat Texas, but beat the shit out of Texas. They took Bama down to the wire. They beat Penn State in a bowl game, like a New Year's Day bowl. It was a very, very impressive year, but expectations kept getting bigger and if you remember this too this is one thing I think was working against them was in Arkansas.

Speaker 1: 31:40

There's time to pull for everything. Right, like 12 months out of the year, they have something to pull for and there's only one show in the state. It's just them. There's no pro teams. So you have like football season. Then you know, if that doesn't work out, you have basketball. Still, basketball made a couple of Elite 8s.

Speaker 1: 31:55

And then you look at baseball season. They're they're usually in contention, but like I think the ire of the fan base was like, okay, we made it to the Elite Eight and get knocked off. You're the number one overall seed in baseball. Like this is your year for Omaha, you got the player of the year, that pitcher or whatever, and then you lose in the Super Regional. It's like fuck, now we gotta go to football season, our expectations are high and you're only won four games last year and that was when he was returning what people thought was going to be the top you know backfield combo in the SEC. He's done all that. The expectations were super high and now he's got Petrino as his OC. So if it doesn't work, it's going to fall on Pittman. That's why I said my own prison.

Speaker 2: 32:43

And what was he known for? It was offensive line play. He comes over and, dude how was your own line so bad? Like this is your red and butter. So yeah, he created his own prison.

Speaker 1: 32:55

They ranked 10th or worse in all four in the conference in all four major offensive statistical categories last season. It was awful.

Speaker 2: 33:05

Just awful. I have a few honorable mentions, if you want me to throw those in.

Speaker 2: 33:09

Yeah, do that so Higher is the name of the song, but I go with the full horses. Can you take me higher? And to me this is Lane Kiffin Ooh, I was close on that one. You've been great at Ole Miss and I'm going to put Eli Drinkwitz on here too. Y'all both went. You know. Double-digit wins last year yeah, awesome. Can you take us higher? Ole Miss can get to the playoff. Eli Drinkwitz proved to me last year wasn't a fluke. Do it again. So I think both those guys that's the biggest question on both those teams, like Lane Kiffin especially, you've always been the bridesmaid dude. Can you be the bride? Yeah, because you may not get a better chance than this with what you have in your arsenal at Ole Miss.

Speaker 1: 33:50

I took Hugh Freeze and it was kind of a cop-out. It was the last one I picked, to be honest, but it was mainly because you got that recruiting class you brought us, but it was, it was mainly because you got that recruiting class and brought in all the stuff is. I think it's going to be interesting to see what kind of what kind of man and what kind of leader of men hugh freeze is. Because didn't love, don't love his past, really like the idea of like people like bo wallace, like openly calling him a hypocrite, um, and you know bo wallace is an idiot, but like, but you also. You have, you have a checkered pass for sure.

Speaker 1: 34:24

I didn't love what he did in the in the in the bowl game you had a chance to not have a losing season. You were playing a Maryland team that was not great and they didn't have a starting quarterback and you got boat raised. So like, and he's like, oh it. I want to know that if they are going to take the next step for one, and if they don't, is he going to be full of excuses and horseshit or is he going to actually take the program higher? So that's what I have for that one.

Speaker 2: 34:46

I just don't know why you could put your chips all in on Peyton Thorne. You could have brought in another quarterback. Keep in mind, at LSU a couple years ago Brian Kelly had Miles Brennan who was expected to be the guy six You're seeing Carter and he still went and got Jaden Daniels from art from Arizona state. This year he's got Garrett Nussmeyer. Everybody's expecting him to be really good. He's still went and got AJ Swan, who started multiple games in the sec at Vanderbilt. Like, go get somebody who has started elsewhere. Instead he's going to ride with Hank Brown and Holden Garner and these dudes who've never played you know real sec ball. If Peyton Thorne sucks, there is no plan B.

Speaker 1: 35:19

You're going to have to throw any of these experienced kids out. I think he's high on Walker White. It is odd in this day and age of football to watch Auburn, because Auburn is like, and they're like like Hugh Freeze is flat out like I got time, baby, I got nothing but time. It's like Master P's line in Gone in 60 Seconds, like ain't got nothing but time, baby. I don't know if that's true, because he I think he thinks it's like we're going to bring in this young recruiting class. I love the way that he's attacking it because it's different than everyone else and they're not going to go to the portal only. But yeah, I mean that's, that's an odd way to go about it. What's your other honorable mention?

Speaker 2: 35:53

Uh.

Speaker 1: 35:53

I did more.

Speaker 2: 36:00

Yeah, I did uh with arms wide open. And I did it for Mike Elko because he kind of secretly Lane Kevin, brought in all the big headliners in the transfer portal, right, mike Elko and A&M kind of brought in a lot of sneaky under the radar guys. Uh, including that, that defensive end from produce Nick Skorton, I think is going to be awesome. People are going to get to know his name because he's going to be a double-digit sack guy in the SEC this year. But Mike Elko kind of said look, we're rebuilding this thing.

Speaker 2: 36:21

Jimbo's gone, we'll still do NIL, we'll still pay for recruits and all this. But hey, portal's open, arm's wide open, come on in. And I think, a&m it's funny. I'm starting to see some of these early preseason rankings Marler, and I'm seeing A&M pop in there 24, 25. We know game day's already going to College Station. They might be the secret Of every year where we always talk big about A&M and they never live up to it. This might be a year that Elko is the right guy at the right time and they might actually be 8-4 this year.

Speaker 1: 36:50

or maybe, you know, if things go right, nine and three dude, my favorite comment in this entire offseason has been from our buddy, chris phillips from scc unfiltered. He he said this a couple times said on our show a while back and he said it this week as well which is like why don't we just let a and m overachieve for once? Like why don't we just let them? Like why do we put all these expectations on them? And then you know, they fail immediately.

Speaker 1: 37:15

So I'm excited about a and m because, like you and I talked about this off air the other day it's like, like you know, people close to the program think they're ahead of schedule and it's and they're, they're confident going into the year, which I think is different. I I will tell you this, I use the different one for that song. Same exact idea, though, and I use old myths with our episode of it, because I've continued to say this there's two teams, there's two teams in the country that have shown you non-stop that they are all in on on this season, and this season especially, and it's it's old miss and miami, and that schedule for old miss is really, really, really manageable. Um, I think it'll be really interesting. Dude, like dude, here's the other thing too If they can win 10 games, if they can win 10 games.

Speaker 1: 37:58

I think it would probably be best for them to not get to Atlanta. But if they can win 10 games, not get boat raced in their two losses like last year when they lost to Bama 24-10 and they lost to Georgia badly, badly, but if they can do that and just get to the playoff, I don't think that there's a worse nightmarish of a matchup for a lot of teams than Ole Miss and Lane Kiffin, the offense and what he can do and scheming guys over that's going to be awesome.

Speaker 2: 38:30

And I keep saying take their two toughest games, georgia at home and then at LSU. Give them losses in both those. They're 10-2. By manage of tiebreaker, georgia's probably going to Atlanta. And then who else you want to bring there? Maybe it's LSU, maybe it's Alabama, maybe it's Missouri, because remember, there's no East-West anymore.

Speaker 1: 38:47

It's just the two best teams.

Speaker 2: 38:49

Georgia may behoove them to lose those games. Not go to Atlanta, get an extra week of prep time for your playoff. You won't get the buy. You get an extra playoff. But what nobody's talking about is the loser. The freaking SEC championship game doesn't get a buy either. You got to go play the next week of the playoff and there's a scenario I keep throwing this out there that we're going to get multiple 10 and two teams and a team goes to the SEC championship and loses and they're 10 and three. They're going to take 10 and two. Ole Miss is going to jump them, they're going to get in the playoff and 10 and three loser. The SEC championship is out like this. These are real scenarios because we did this stupid, cockamamie, asinine agreement that all four conference champions just moved to the front of the line where we can have a seven and five Big 12 champ this year that jumps ahead of several 10-2 SEC teams.

Speaker 1: 39:34

But isn't that fun in March? Isn't that fun when you get an Ivy League winner and they upset Auburn 14-3 seed no it's not the same thing.

Speaker 2: 39:43

It's so weird. Even the Ivy League team gets a 9 seed, they don't move up to a 1. They don't just automatically jump to the front of the line. What?

Speaker 1: 39:49

are we doing? Jump to the front of the line like what are we doing? Yeah, no, I think, and it's weird. It's so weird to think about how all this could change one year to one year. I'll say it, and evan grimes knows I've said to him before and so, and willie gray too if georgia, if this was last year and it was a 12 team playoff, I think georgia wins the national championship. And I also think that in atlanta, when bama played them, they would have rested all five of those guys that were injured in that game. Just by all means. They would have had more in line.

Speaker 1: 40:15

Either way, I have arms wide open with Ole Miss. They have brought in a ton of portal talent over the last few years. Kiffin has been dubbed portal king. I think that they're going to be a dangerous team. They're going to be a lot of fun to watch. And then my last one this one sucks to end on, but it's my last one. There are more creed songs. Children don't stop dancing, dude. That was when I I finally decided to jump on board like all right, maybe creed kind of sucks. This is terrible, um it's funny real quick.

Speaker 2: 40:49

I was talking with our rock music PD today at our radio stations and he was saying how cool it is how both Creed and Nickelback both went from. They were super cool, had all these hits to oh, you listen to Creed, oh, and they suck to. Now it's like, oh my God, they're selling out on tours again. They've come back around. He said the band to watch that's currently in the middle of this, they're on the downslope. He said give them 10 years and they're going to be cool again.

Speaker 1: 41:17

It's Imagine Dragons, oh yeah, dude, imagine Dragons had some good songs, but it was awesome. They did, they did. I remember telling this to somebody and I wasn't ashamed of it when it happened, but I remember this is like when I was like just starting out at scs and I was like still doing my comedy and and I was like there was that line it was like talking about now I'm, I'm smiling from the stage and you're something from the nosebleeds I was like fuck yeah, dude. Oh yeah, mad dragons, you get it. Um, and then espn kept shoving them down our throats and it was dude, it was because it was that. And then it was what was the one song that was so bad from Fall Out Boy? And it was like like Thanks for the Memories.

Speaker 1: 42:05

No, it wasn't Thanks for the Memories, but I think it was something like Memory it was like oh, for centuries, yeah, remember me for centuries, me for centuries.

Speaker 1: 42:17

I think it's a good call, though I had this one, though it's Don't Stop Dancing, because you know the boas down there at Kyle Station just whoop, whoop. A lot of fun times down there. That is the end of the show, gordy. Before we get out of here, I've got one message after Gord is. That is the end of the show, gordy. Before we get out of here. Um, and I've got one message after gordy leaves to the uh, the rest of the audience listening, but tell them where they can find you. I appreciate you joining us. We'll do this again, obviously, uh, several times. Oh, you're going to meet you this, right?

Speaker 2: 42:44

oh yeah, we're booked in. We were the first, uh, we were the first people in to request a table and all that, so we are uh room, you got got going.

Speaker 1: 42:51

Do you want to possibly?

Speaker 2: 42:51

set up a thing like last year or what, bro. So I think our buddy, dan Matthews, is going to be traveling with us this year. I mean, you know, maybe a cot, maybe we can get you something nice on the floor, something like that. But yeah, locked on SEC. We're talking all things SEC and having some great guests.

Speaker 2: 43:13

We've had a bunch of players on the last few weeks. We had Talon Green, new Arkansas quarterback. We had Chris Brazel, the wide receiver for, transferred over from Tulane. I think he's going to be awesome for them with Squirrel White and all those other guys they have. And just this past week we had Nick Anderson on wide receiver from Oklahoma, who set the freshman record last year for most touchdowns in a season at Oklahoma, with 10. He scored the game winner against Texas, if you remember that one. So he's awesome. I've seen some mock drafts that already have him slated as like the third best wide receiver in next year's draft. So, like Oklahoma, like they're going to score points. I don't know if they'll get stops and their schedule's brutal, but Nick was really cool and so if you guys get a chance, check it out. We've got some more players joining us the next couple weeks as well.

Speaker 2: 43:56

Check that out.

Speaker 1: 43:57

Awesome dude, we appreciate it. I'm going to finish up here without you. Make sure you check that out. What's that?

Speaker 2: 44:04

Before I leave. Are you going to talk about me, Is that?

Speaker 1: 44:07

why I have to jump out of here. No, I'm going to talk about Harrison Butker, oh okay, oh okay, which we love. All right, brother, talk to you soon. All right, listen up guys. That was an awesome episode. We had a lot of fun. It was a very long episode, I don't think we're going to do a Friday morning episode.

Speaker 1: 44:24

Actually, no, we're doing a Friday afternoon happy hour episode as of right now, with Message Board. Geniuses Should have some fun there. We have this idea to do a show where we have like kind of what they already do with the message board stuff and then do, um, uh, like our favorite tweets of the week, uh, which is that that's tentatively scheduled tomorrow, I believe, around 3 PM obviously post about it in the meantime. So, um, be sure you're looking out for that. Last thing I'm going to say, and this is just a, you know, I love you guys. You guys are a fantastic audience. I love that we get to talk about stuff and you guys.

Speaker 1: 45:07

One of the things that has been unique to our show over the past several years is we've always been super, super open and transparent about different stuff and sometimes, admittedly, to like I think what might be, in hindsight, to like a detriment and things like that. But we've always had a open door policy with like discourse and stuff, and I think that's a good thing. I think it's a healthy thing. I saw this all week. People have been losing their minds all week on social media and it seems like for this week more than others recently, which is really saying something I just want to remind everybody. So, like the harrison buck thing, it's always okay to disagree with anyone's opinion. I didn't agree with mostly anything he said, just to be honest. But also he said it in a forum of people where I think that that you know what. I don't agree with what he said. Obviously, a lot of people on social media didn't agree with what he said, but we weren't that out. We were in his audience. I think the intended audience he was talking to was probably the audience that would be in agreeance with some of the things that he said, which is why you didn't have an uproar or see anything of people storming out, leaving having like some massive negative reaction to it, like we've seen with a bunch of other college graduations across the country, for a number of reasons or one in particular that we're not going to get into, but I just want to remind everyone okay, this is a. It's an election year, it's a crazy year. We're five months from it. It's only going to get heated, more heated and worse.

Speaker 1: 46:18

On social media. It's always okay to not hate someone just because of who they vote for. It's always a pay to have different opinions. What sucks is when we stop having discourse about it and can't have any conversations about it. So I just want to remind everyone listen, we're not going to always agree on stuff. You clearly aren't going to always agree with the things that I say. You guys check my Twitter mentions and that's a daily basis thing. But I did want to talk about that just for a second because I think it's like it feels like it's somewhat getting out of hand where people are just like really, really, it's somewhat getting out of hand where people are just like, really, really, add to their throats and just pace yourselves. It's a long year. It's okay to have your own opinion, it's okay to have have other people have their own opinions and it's always okay to accept people for just having different opinions. And then, uh, talking about it and also talking about that, don't change your mind. So there you go. Um, that's my little soapbox. That was unnecessary and all that kind of stuff. And the last thing I'll say is this I, I can't, I can't hold this one.

Speaker 1: 47:19

In the, the nfl decided they were going to make sure they distance themselves from some of the the content in his speech. It's the same organization, same organization that let deshaun watson get a $250 million guaranteed contract. And it's the same organization that saw the footage of Ray Rice knock his fiance out on an elevator, drag her by the hair to the room until she became conscious again. When they saw the tapes and know they were the only ones that saw the tapes decided they would only have a two-game suspension because they were of the impression no one would ever know. That's the organization we're also dealing with. So let's not always paint. Let's not paint them out to be the heroes just yet. Love you guys. This was a great week. This was a really, really great week, so I wanted to say thank you to all you guys. I hope everyone has a fantastic weekend. Evan, best of luck on the lacrosse profits. Hit me up with some. You guys have a fantastic night, a fantastic weekend T.