Jenee:
Hi, hi, Ima.
Ima:
Hello, dear.
Jenee:
I have my dear friend, Ima Kamel, joining me today on this beautiful day, May 6th. And I'm just so grateful to have you. Ima is an amazing mind, an amazing heart, a very interesting human. She's a filmmaker, a cultural diplomat, an Egyptian shaman, a teacher. She's the creator of the Holographic Being Accelerator and now she's evolving into a whole new series of work. So hi.
Ima:
What a beautiful introduction. Thank you.
Jenee:
So I want to talk about your shift away from like filmmaking and into being an Egyptian shaman in your work with the Holographic Being, which is your body of work, and how this is all rooted in Egyptian cosmology. You're Egyptian, you were born where? Born and raised where?
Ima:
I was born in Cairo. I'm not called Egyptian anymore. But yes, this is my roots. This is the river where I come from.
And yes, you know, like it's really interesting because this body, this new body of work came to me. I was in Egypt, I was in a sabbatical in a little village on the west bank of Luxor writing my previous book. And everybody was saying, hey, you have to go to the Dendara temple. And I was saying, but there are so many temples around me here in Luxor why should I go to the Dendara temple? But it kept coming and coming. So on my last day I went into that temple, it was very quiet, it was almost empty, and suddenly I got into a celestial meeting. And I was prepared actually for such an encounter, because a few years ago I was visiting the sanctuary of Sehmet, of the goddess, of the lioness goddess, and she did something also very, very deep with me. She moved all of my fear frequencies out of my system in a deep encounter with her. And then from there, actually, the inquiry started. I started to understand that I have another phase in my life. And so when this celestial meeting happened, it happened very quietly. I was just by the lake outside. There were no guards. It was very quiet. And they were giving actually instructions about my new phase of work inside of the pandemic. And I didn't understand a word because I didn't even imagine what will come, what would come a week later. So actually just a week later, everything started, but I was prepared because I got instructions and I got that tool of the Akashic records into my system. And I didn't know anything about it. Magically enough, the next day I met an Akashic reader and she opened my Akash and she said the whole Pantheon is around me and they want to work with me and I can open the Akashic records myself. So I started actually with friends with colleagues, I was back to Cairo, then I was back to Germany, then I was traveling of course like always. So it started like that, it's actually opened itself up to me. And then the Holographic Being came into place when I understood that all of my bodies of work, all of my disciplines, they all belong together - the filmmaker, the cultural diplomat, the keynote speaker, the healer, you know, and then I got this idea that actually the most power is when I bring it all into this new body of work. So that's why I brought it into the world. Also the term, the Holographic Being, is bringing it all together, all your talents, all your experiences. All of your lifelines because the Akash they don't really see our lives in a linear time. They don't have past, present and future. They actually work always in the now and this holographic time being or this holographic living and working and acting inside of this world was mirrored in that term. So I used it as my brand for this whole new operation. And then I birthed this program, the Holographic Being Accelerator into the world.
Jenee:
Let's go, let's explain a little bit to people in case they don't understand like what the Akashic records are. So the Akashic records are basically a universal library, a library that holds the records of every thought you've ever made, every action in all time space continuum. Is that a good, I think that's a good way to describe it.
Ama:
It's a beautiful way to say it. You know, like I am actually since that work has been birthed, I'm actually inquiring into it because there is science behind it. Erwin Laszlo has really put us in front of a body of work.
Jenee:
Who is that?
Ima:
Erwin Laszlo is a Physicist. Oh, wow. Yes. And then what is happening here is that we have Seshat in our Egyptian pantheon.
Jenee:
What is that?
Ima:
She is the female counter to Thoth. He is the one who wrote the Emerald Tablets and many, many, many other books. He's the one who is actually entering this world helping a lot of newcomers, of energy workers, of light workers to bring their work forth and their visions forth. So Seshat has come and entered the field from the beginning. She's now on my logo as she is the keeper of the records in the Egyptian lineage. What is happening here is that actually everybody can access the Akash. What is happening here is that the Akashic Lords, they transmit through me a vision. So you don't come to me with specific questions and then you get an answer. It's not divinatory at all. It's actually transmitting a whole blueprint of your lifelines into one that is most eminent for you now. Even from the future, even from the past. So this grand vision, I take that grand vision and make it as a kind of foundation for my programs. I was talking about the holographic being accelerator where I designed a three weeks online program. It was in the time where we were all in retreat. I call it global retreat and we designed that field, I call it almost like a CERN in Switzerland. It's like a potent field where multidisciplinary, multidimensional professionals from across this globe come together in an emergent, in a process to break through barriers, to cross the threshold and look into all of their hidden talents and bring it all together into one vision.
Jenee:
Yeah, I did one of your accelerators in 2020.
Ima:
And... You were the foundation accelerator.
Jenee:
Oh really? Okay. Yes. So it was amazing. And I think there was 12 people or 16 people?
Ima:
We have the mandala of 12 people. Yeah. Sometimes it goes until 16, but because I would like to craft the virtual circle, it's a very intimate space to design. So yes, it goes into 12, 14, sometimes 16 into this deep process. And from there, from these editions and from these experiences, I had the urge because it's three weeks and you enter that accelerator. It's intense. And then you are on your own.
Jenee:
It's so intense. It was so amazing, so life-changing. I mean, I think it really pivoted like how I'm now working in the world and what I want to do. Because what it did was it really got me in touch with sound frequency. And that's when I started, like through your accelerator program, that's when I started to channel sound. And I gave myself permission. And I was always into sound and understanding sound, but something about the accelerator, it dropped me into understanding sound in the healing frequency and the healing vibration and what I could actually do with sound through my body. And it also got me dancing and getting in touch with my body again. It just totally changed and pivoted my whole trajectory in my life. So yeah, it was a profound program.
Ima:
Yeah, it's really interesting that you are sharing because I had always this urge to bring that work into another level of operation. So you know about this, that last year I had this very debilitating illness and going into the Netherlands, going into the darkness. It's beautiful when you brought in the Blue Lotos because last year I was on a pilgrimage with 12 amazing women in Egypt on a beautiful boat traveling across the Nile and visiting the temples that I never have visited before. And the Blue Lotus was an essential being, an encounter, because it almost disappeared from Egypt. And then with a lot of work and guardians and even me as a homeopath about five years ago, I did a homeopathic medicine out of the Blue Lotus. So something really magical happened. The Blue Lotus entered into the Egyptian space again and this encounter with that medicine is very deep. I got very sick, it was very tough for us to travel every day. But it was so deep and when I went into my illness, I went into the duet, I went actually like a lotus, I went into the mud, I went into this fertile space, it's almost like this divine womb space. Okay, I had a lot of pain and it was a very, very hard time, but from this perspective now, I can understand and I can grasp that this is an initiation. Yes. Because then the power surge, you know, like as soon as I had the operations, it was an odyssey, of course, first. So it took months and months where I wasn't even able to speak or swallow or smile or move even without a pain. So what happened is that I had a surgery, a very, very fine surgery. And after that, everything started to come towards the light, coming forth by day in our language. And I felt the surge of energy and I felt it's almost like the thrust of this lotus coming to the surface. And I understood that there are processes of the Blue Lotus that I loved. I was in the primal mud. Then the seeking of the light is the second phase. And the third phase is the luminous ascent. So you come out and you start to feel the light and then you come into a blossoming, a sudden blossoming, you know, it's always unpredictable when a lotus flower will blossom. And then the fifth phase is you get into a sacred seeding. You want, it's an urge, it's a yearning to bring your work into this world. Wow.
So what happened is I was very sick actually, still very, very, very weak. So I actually started to work on this book to write these phases to work with these emergence, you know, like almost like meditations or shamanic journeying or you can call it whatever you want to call it. For the beginner, it would be almost only just listening and daydreaming for advanced people. They would really journey with these emergence like I did. Because this process has actually helped me. I was the very first tester of this process. And I'm very, very lucky because this book will be released by the end of this year. Out of that book, we immersed the program, the three months' program, the Alchemist Leadership Program, because I felt many entrepreneurs, many artists, many leaders, t hey feel so stuck. They feel like they're doing great work. They are very successful. There's something missing, Jenee. There's something, there's an inner calling. There is an inner yearning to align with this inner, exactly like what happened with me. I was in the middle of writing a book, filmmaking, and suddenly this whole body of work came to me and I accepted it and I opened myself to it. So I designed that program to help beyond the three weeks accelerator and immersion to help these people to realize their vision and their unique frequency. And what does that like when you say unique frequency, what does that mean? It's someone's soul blueprint, but beyond that, like, it's a culmination of everything, all their skills, their passions. Yeah, you know, like I have been seeing this again and again and again, that most people would say, this is my hobby, this is my work, this is my business. Yeah. This is my role as a mother. And then it fragments the energy. Just imagine like a river and then it splits up in many streams. So what happens here is that I feel like it's a feeling, it's a mission, it's a vision of me that when you bring it all together, there is your unique vision, your unique frequency. What I mean by that is that there is a lot of hidden properties across your lifelines. Yes. There are some neglected so-called hobbies. There is a business that brings you money, but you don't know how to bring it into your passion and alignment. Yeah. So these are the questions and also stuck into the boardrooms and to-do lists. So I brought in, and this is the power of this new phase of the operation I brought in playfulness. I actually…healed myself and brought this whole new body of work through playfulness. I started to play with the strategies. I started to question the strategies of the Holographic Being Accelerator. I started to find new ways of entry. I started to work with these entrepreneurs and they don't really have time. So I started to find ways to implant five minutes exercises or strategies. for their continuous writing, for example, if they want to write a book or they want to birth a new vision or a new business. So I started to bring in all of my fields of expertise, like healing, branding, storytelling, imagining, of course mentoring. I started to bring it all into that power of playfulness. Very creative just see children how they play. It's very creative it's very disruptive and it crosses the threshold very easily effortlessly. This is a notion this is the modus I have to work effortlessly in this new phase. I have understood that this body can shut down very easily.
So effortlessly, playfully, we actually brought in the acronym H.O.P.E because I was birthed again. I was very near to cross on the other side, but I was birthed again. I brought back. So the determination and the power of the vision is even stronger now. And the holographic opportunities for playful entrepreneurship is bringing it all together. So we can work through the Egyptian material. So they are powers, they are energies, they are presences in our life. If you know it or not, it doesn't really matter.
Jenee:
How does, can I ask, how does one access for me, like it's always something I wanted to learn about the Egyptian cosmology, but I felt like it was so far from me. you know, just being like a white girl in America, you know, it's like how how do we, you know, access the Egyptian cosmology in a way that like is relatable? And is it something we all we all can have access to? These are living energies.
Ima:
Actually, it's like a lover coming into your life. It happens very spontaneously. If you open yourself to it and I have developed and unfolded many strategies of how to bring these energies, these living vibrant beings, they are eager to help you. They are eager to go through you, to permeate your life, to empower your vision, to empower your creativity. So actually there is nothing to do. It's not a system, it's not a method. It's actually the sensitivity, the yearning for it.
Jenee:
So, but do you need to invite them in? How does that work?
Ima:
Yeah. So, it's actually no work. That's the new work. No work is the new work. At all. Actually, it's, I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding. It's not work, because in this new time that we have here, the veils are very thin. And there are so many ways of how to open oneself, to open yourself to the Akash, to the Akashic realm, to these beings. I love to work with many, many levels, as you know, about the holographic being, of course. So I engage every aspect of it, the analytical aspect, the imaginative aspect, the power aspect, the energy aspect, the strategic aspect, because every ethero, like Thoth or Tehuti, is different than Isis. Isis is for healing. Hathor is for accessing the sound and the music and the joy. Anubis is the guide when you want to go into the underworld and you want to express. You don't want to dive and drown in the underworld. I don't really advocate shadow work because then you are on that side and you can live your whole life in shadow work. But of course Anubis can bring you down into this underworld to understand and grasp some energies of you to come back into your life, to come back into your vision. So there are so many ways we have brought this program into a five phase exactly like these five phases of the Lotus. We start with the Akashic reading, it's the blueprint, it's your vision. And then we start to unravel it. The first phase is breaking through limits, burning old stuff old beliefs and then it goes into the phases of starting to really bring all of your talents and skills and dreams and visions together and then it will go from one phase to the other in a strategically way ending with the manifestation. I love to manifest, I love to bring it into this world because we are living into this world, we want this world to be different, we want heaven on Earth. It's real. It's my mission. So we work of course on strategies and concepts how to bring it forth.
Jenee Halstead
And as far as working with some of the beings like Hathor, is this part of the program or is it just purely working with the Blue Lotus?
Ima:
No, no, no, no, no. We adapt, so to speak. So there are many ways of how to do this. You will find your own being that you are working with. But of course, every phase has its own power and its own vibrance. For example, when we go into manifestation, Ptah, the architect, and the opener of the mouth, the opener of your vision, expressing it, will come in. Sekhmet is beautiful in the beginning because she can burn out beliefs, old systems, you know, residuals. So we bring in the ethero as living powers inside of the program. But then of course at one point and of course I'm working a lot with guided meditations, so very spontaneously if some being is eminent for you now, I will be able to channel this, but you will too. You know, you will be opening yourself to receive the power. We are in an age, there are no mediators or priests, we don't need gurus. Yes, we can be inspired by teachers or guides or inspired by me as a passionate pusher or passionate companion or like that. But actually you are a sovereign being that is able to do all of that on your own once we have ignited that process.
Jenee:
So as far as like the five stages of the Blue Lotus, was this like something that was brought to you during your initiation and your kind of dark night of the soul, these five steps? Or was this, has this always been the five steps of the Blue Lotus? Like the seeding and is this like a universal knowledge or is this something that was delivered to you?
Ima:
Okay, so it's actually not steps, because it can happen in one day, you know, these five things can happen in one day, can go across all of your lifetime. So there is no time or there is no method or there is no linearity in my work at all, exactly like the Akash is teaching me, I am in always in this holographic perception of it. So why the five steps? When I was working with my book and with all of these emergence flooding into my being, into my field, I tried to structure it. So I structured it by observing the lotus. I had been, when I was living in Berlin, of course I would always observe lotuses everywhere in this world. But when I was living in Berlin, I was living by a pond of lotuses. So I would stay for days and hours and hours just watching the lotus, just watching it blossoming or sinking down. So when I started to structure my book, I brought in these five phases, but they are very much permeating each other, very much flowing into each other. They are cyclic.
So you can start somewhere in that phase. It doesn't start like step one, step two, step three. So you can start somewhere and then you will discover, ah, now it's the time to go to the mud, to the fruit, fertile, fruitful space of retreat. Then you go into the primal mud. But then maybe you will not go through all of these four phases. Maybe you will go into sacred seeding as I have been doing now. You know, like I'm coming out now because the energy is too strong. You know, like it wants to share. It wants, it's almost like a mother with filled breasts of milk, you know, Hathor with her sacred milk. Yeah, it just wants to share. It wants to give after such a long time of absence. So it's not rigid at all. Nothing is rigid in the holographic being space. That's where playfulness can come in, the creativity can come in. What is happening here with these five phases is that you have an orientation what you need. Where would you need help? Where is it stuck? Why is it stuck? How can we bring it into that other phase, either into the primal mode, because then you can regenerate the planet, or maybe you are in the blossoming and you want to seed out into this world. So then we birth your project, your book, your artwork, whatever it is. So it's actually also a very, very, not only unique way, but also a very creative way for me to work with people.
Jenee:
Do you work with the blue lotus, um, ingesting it as far as that goes? Cause I know that's a very like liminal plant that people often work within the dream space that really brings a lot of visions.
Ima:
So I, I would say, yes, I do take, um, sometimes the Lotus, but as you know, I actually love that the body, that the system from the inside out is empowering itself. So I don't really advocate outer agents. Even if I am a homeopath and a healer, and of course, sometimes you will be needing a remedy or a medicine like I did. What I love is the oil. I put one drop on my forehead, but I am very, very sensitive to outer agencies. So I cannot do it on a daily basis. I'm very, very respectful. reverently aware of the power of the Blue Lotus, also across the cultures. This question is really interesting because the surge, the emerging of the plant medicines and the crossings of thresholds and the unfoldings that are coming from here, it's very interesting. But I do believe, deeply believe that you have everything you need here in that being, in that body. It's like the Kundalini Yoga says it's 10 bodies. There are so many different systems, but everything is in there. And I didn't know anything about the Akash. I didn't know anything about shamanism. In Egypt, nobody really knows even that term. But I learned that through these teachings, you know, like I would be woken up in the nights to learn from my celestial teachers and teams. And I would be guided. So what I would say is guide yourself. Open yourself. Be open, be receptive, be receiving. Then you will decide, absolutely decide for yourself if you need the remedy or if you need the oil or if you need just the encounter with it. In homeopathy, I have given many, many mental remedies because there was no way to send anything during the pandemic or whatever. So you can also connect in so many ways and in playful ways, exactly like a child.
Jenee:
So sending a mental remedy would be like emitting the frequency.
Ima:
A poem or a mantra or I will send an image cross, you know, like I will, you know, like I will think about it very deeply. I will think about the properties that we need from that remedy because homeopathic remedies are also holographic. They have so many, so many ways how they act on which level they act emotionally or physically or mentally. So yes, there are so many ways of how to act upon a remedy. So if you understand or grasp this vision of the Akash, of the unifying field, and then you start to grasp theories or concepts like the entanglement, the epigenetic, you know, like there are so many ways of actually how to connect through the unified field and then send through the unified field and then receive through the unified field.
Jenee:
I love the idea of the emanation, of sending the emanation or just working with the emanation of something. Even holding it to our eyes and the power of that, you know, bringing it in through the eyes.
Ima:
It's interesting because you are a sound being and then you are talking about the eyes. So the multi-sensory, the kinesthetic, you know, like the Akash, they don't really think or talk in six senses. For them, there are hundreds of senses. They are, it's almost like, you know, like you have the ground colors and then the artist can create hundreds and thousands of colors out of these six colors. And we actually started to understand this in the 50s when they were working on the Chaos Theory and they were so stunned by projects where the laboratories were far, far out from each other. And then they would discover that the apes would do exactly the same resolution and the same solution exactly at the same time across all laboratories. Yeah. So the way of how we scientifically, experientially trying to really feel into that potent field, there are so many ways of how to work with the uniting field, how to work with the Akash, how to work with the Egyptian ethero and all other beings that want to work with you. So it's almost like when I talk about children is children want to play. They would just knock on your shoulder in a playground and they want to play. They just want to play. The pantheon is very similar. They are eager to move through you because they are eager for the whole humanity, the whole human being, the holographic being to unfold, to bring in this heaven on earth, to bring in that potency. To leave behind all of this epigenetic, traumatic, ancestry, ages and ages and ages of trauma, of sensations, of pain, of imprints. We are able to transmute all of that inside of this unifying field.
Jenee:
That's beautiful. And when like, when you were in the temple of Dendera and the celestial beings came to you, like how did you know? I mean, I'm sure just the temple in and of itself is so high vibration. Like my question is, how do we enter this field and work with these energies on this playground and make sure that we're working with energies that are, you know, of our highest good? You know, if we look at these higher beings as actually aspects of us, but you know, for you, like, how do you know that who you're working with is, you know, a high caliber being?
Ima:
Hmm. Very interesting question. First of all, I always feel very protected. So I, you know, like it's almost like an electric field, electromagnetic field. So you guard that field. And then with this initiation, it was like, just imagine yourself in a boardroom. It was the whole meeting. There were many of them around me. And each of them had something to say, had something to transmit. It was very long as well, so I started to ask questions, really questions, because I didn't even understand the word pandemic. I didn't really grasp it, why are they talking and seeking pandemic in humanity? And like, so I started to ask questions, very clear questions, and then get very clear answers. So when, and also, as I told you a few years back, I had this encounter with Sekhmet and there I was thinking I'm hallucinating because she started to come out of her status. And the sanctuary is very small and very dark and I was there alone. And I was like, there was a moment where I was thinking, oh, it's too hot, I'm hallucinating. But then a few minutes later, I grasped the power and the magic of it. So I stamped my body, my feet into the ground because it was such a… it was such a power. So I just grounded myself and grounded myself and grounded myself and let her do the work. Because she was almost like a scientific science fiction being. She had an instrument, she was scanning my body up to down, horizontal and vertical, and she eliminated literally every frequency of shame, of fear, of ancestral trauma. She just... did it in a few seconds or a few minutes. I don't even know how long it was. And then from there, when you have this freedom in your body, you start to ask other questions. You start to inquire deeper into things. You start to be more fearless. You start to be, you know, so you're like, then I started exactly like a child. I started to understand things. I started to ask questions that I never asked before. I started to see things that I never saw before. So when that celestial meeting with all of them happened in Dendera by the lake, like why I was just sitting by the lake, it was very clear it is a meeting. It's just a meeting, you know, and if you give yourself to that meeting, so of course there is this choice or this, this when, when you say, yes, you have a choice, uh, it is your choice. Actually, there is no choice because they are giving you power for this world. They are giving you your own unique mission and vision into this world. So it's a gift. So you could say no, of course of course you could, it's still your choice, but grappling with such a power, you know, it's futile. I believe that when something like this comes to you, it's like the sun permeating the lotus and the lotus petals open up. What a magical moment.
So coming back to your question, because I can see this everywhere, I actually closed up my clairvoyance for decades because I was thinking about the feather in the wind. I was always describing it as a feather in the wind, like very, very fragile and then prone to so many other energies. Of course you can go that way, but if you guard your field, if you are centered inside of yourself, you're very much being with yourself then your field is so strong.
Jenee:
I'm curious how looking back now after you've gone through this initiation this dark night of the soul do you feel like this is something your soul called forth? Do you think this was a necessary evolution of your life?
Ima:
No. I don't. And it was not dark night of the soul. It was a dark night of the body. And I don't believe that you have to go through this to arrive at. I don't. What is happening here is a forging process. It's like crafting the Katana sword. So you want to bring that sword to this highest level of function and beauty and power. So I can see it like this. I can see that this forging forth, the burning of old stuff, I see that it is like a forging, like crafting the diamond. The last phases of crafting the diamond but I don't believe that you need this. I don't even believe that suffering is absolutely, it's not necessary at all. I do feel that the joy is our natural frequency and it will always panel back exactly as it is now. And I do feel that this is a hard, it's almost like a hardware in the background of humanity. You have to suffer to arrive to this. You have to be working hard to arrive to that. I don't see it like this. I went through that and I opened myself to a new phase of operation, a new phase of healing. Of course, my healing powers are much stronger. My perceptions are much stronger, but also my madness is much stronger. Like I want to break through all barriers now. You know, I want to break through all realms now. I can travel far, but I'm very grounded to this earth because I know now that this earth is very precious. And I want also, and that's why we brought hope inside of this field, I want to cement playfulness and creativity inside of the field. I want to cement the strategies of playfulness. I want to cement the disruptive energy of a child just storming into the room. You're like, that's the power. That's the energy. And of course you can cross boundaries or of course you can go into
something that is not made for you, but with your GPS, inner GPS, very fast, you will go back to your North Star, to your direction, exactly like every river. They want to move towards the sea.
Jenee:
I love that the river is such a profound archetypal image for you, a living a living symbol. And I believe that the Nile is probably a huge part of that. How would you work with someone that comes to you that maybe they're like a high level CEO and they have no access or they think they don't have access to their inner child?
Ima:
So many people close the door on that child. All of us are doing this. Me included. This is something that is hammered into us throughout the ages. And what I do is I start to find entries. You see when a cat, there's just a tiny little opening in the door maybe one millimeter or something. And then the cat will try everything, make herself small, permeate herself, like makers or whatever, and just open up that millimeter space to enter the room. This is how I work. And I, like, for example, I am working with high level CEOs, so they don't really have time or space or even energy. And then I start to implement three minutes exercises or, um, you know, like, or, or playful between meetings, playful practices between meetings or whatever, you know, like it's the toolbox is full. So, so I'm just giving you some examples. So you have to pick up somebody there where they are. I can be on a, you know, like on a, on a call, I can be with a stressed mother. I mean, just 20 minutes, you know, to pick up something or to go to somewhere in these 20 minutes, I can implant something in her, a seed in her that can, you know, go in there and then start to, to do the work. So it's, you know, it's part of planting the, the magic. When you say magic and playfulness, it looks like that. It looks like, you know, it's, it's, it's not really, um, it's not strategy, it's not concept, it's not work. No, it is. It is very structured. It's very made for you to really come to a power, to really come to a manifestation, to really come into a space where you feel your power. So magic is a good word, but I would say beyond. I would say. It is essential. It is essential for every human being, every sentient being, not only human being, because we are all together in that unifying field, in that holographic being. Every sentient being, like how we behave to our cats and dogs and animals, how do behave to our trees and waters, how do behave, you know, like this is, you know, these beings are also unfolding and wants to work with us, wants to be inspired by us, ignited by us. So it is a very much interconnected, very much interwoven tapestry of work, so to speak. It's your, it's actually a duty. I don't want to use that word because it's not really a resonant with the field, but it is our duty to unfold like a lotus, to blossom our thousand petals. You know, it's our duty. It's our nature. It's our yearning. It's our deepest, deepest design.
Jenee:
Yeah. Well, maybe whether we're conscious of it or not, you know, as above, so below. I really believe that everything in nature is if you look at all the spirals, all the fractals, it's like it's everywhere. The eye is the iris and then you take that out and the sun and it's the same shape. I mean, you know.
Ima:
Yes, and you are a sound explorer. You know, the sound as well, like you just one sound is permeate. It's like a stone in a pond it will permeate the whole being the whole existence the whole multiverse it will have impact because the main question that the people will come to me is oh, but you know what? I am just one person and you know, like I just you know, like I'm just wanting my business to thrive and my kids to be okay. Yeah, and like I don't really have impact you do We have seen this in the resort in in the U.S. we have seen when just a few wolves were introduced inside of this bio ecosphere. What happened? This whole nature regenerated in just 15 years. So don't underestimate your potency, don't underestimate your power, don't underestimate your vision. I would say overestimated. Like children, you're like they just come into the room and they are the kings of the kings. They are the Superman of the Superman. You know, it's exactly like that. You play with it. You uncover it. You create it. You co-create it. You are in this field. You are dancing exactly like the electrons and the protons and the the minor atoms, the quantum atoms, you know, it's always in the playing, the movement, in the impacting, influencing, inspiring, igniting. I love it. It's powerful.
Jenee:
I would love to have you on again. We can talk another time about even go into even more depth into this work and we can go into more depth about Egyptian cosmology. And I think that this was a great interview. And I got to know you in ways that like there's so much behind the scenes about your work that I don't know about. And it was really nice to get to peek into it and have you explain and share. And I just feel like there's this such a huge wealth of knowledge. And I really appreciate how careful, not careful, but how your language is constructed around life and growth and expansion and beauty and just being aware of like how we speak and what we're sort of bringing into the field through our language. I learned a lot from you today just in that. Thank you so much.
Ima:
Such a great being to be with you and to ponder about these revelations. I don't really call it knowledge as much. That's why I'm actually working with this childlike being. It’s…it's more living than knowing. It's more being than doing. It's more creating than pushing. It's more unfolding than developing. It's an unfolding process. But everywhere where we look at the seas, the waters, the skies, the trees, there is always this searching of of energy, of movement, of yearning, of desire towards the light. So although I don't like this word light worker or energy worker, because I stopped you to use it. Why? I can tell you why, because I don't like to put it into the box of spirituality or only the people who are interested in this and that and woo-woo stuff. And you're like, no, it's...very essential to be in that space and to pick up the people where they are. And then try to put it into a language that they can understand, that they can resonate with. And as you know, as a musician, when you tune the fork and there is one fork that is dominant, she can permeate the whole frequency.
Jenee:
Totally.
Ima:
Thank you so much. It's such a...a joy, a deep joy to see your podcast of, you know, thriving and blossoming. It's time. It's time.
Jenee:
Love you.
