07 | Navigating the Path to Self-Discovery with Steve Knox

Here we go, legends. We hear from the other half (we're uncertain if he's better or not...) Steve Knox, the man, the myth, the legend. Half man-half amazing, in a candid episode of Uplift You. Sharing stories from Waimati to Brisbane, Steve's path from a mechanic with a dream of travel to becoming the cornerstone of his family in Australia is both relatable and inspiring.

We laugh, reminisce, and uncover the deep, dark secrets of our lives, revealing how a strong sense of community ties and the spirit of resilience have shaped Knox's journey together.

Today's Takeaways:

• Why facing past insecurities and learning to forgive is critical to personal growth
•  The impact of our mindset on our relationships
• How Steve's natural 'fixer' instinct both helped and hindered the early days of his relationship with Leanne

Rounding out our heart-to-heart, we share the profound effects that sobriety has brought into our lives. Steve offers pearls of wisdom on the ripple effect of change and the pivotal role of mindset coaching. 

Tune in for an authentic mix of heartfelt revelations and nuggets of wisdom that will leave you feeling *a little bit* more uplifted.

Follow Leanne on Instagram @lkstrengthcoach

Join the Strength Seekers community and score big with a vibrant tribe of like-minded individuals, invaluable resources, coaching services tailored to your needs, special guest coaches and workshops and so much more. Click here to join today with our special listener's offer!

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:01

Welcome to Uplift you, creating strong bodies and mind. Get ready to power up your day with practical strength training tools, inspiring stories and build resilience of body and mind. It's time to Uplift you, together with your host, leanne Knox. Hello, and welcome back to Uplift you. Today is an exciting day in my podcasting journey because this is my first time. Number one, that I've been able to use my Starlink and sit in my own room, and number two, I get to listen to someone else's voice other than my own. So you might be wondering who is this other person? And it's none other than my fellow Bogan and my best friend, my husband, steve Knox.

Speaker 1: 0:52

Steve is a kid from country New Zealand. He grew up in Waimati, a big farming community with plenty of sheep, wallabies believe it or not rabbits, wallabies believe it or not rabbits and the odd goat and deer. Now you might be wondering why I decided to have Steve on as my very first guest and before I get into that, I just want to let you know a little bit about Steve before he came to Australia. So he came to Australia when he was 21 and his first job in Brisbane, queensland, was working as a mechanic. So he travelled the coast the east coast of Queensland and in those 10 years of travelling up and down the east coast, he settled in a place called Bundaberg, which is where we met. So, without further ado, I'm going to get Steve to introduce himself and say g'day yeah g'day.

Speaker 2: 1:57

How are you going?

Speaker 1: 1:59

I'm great. How are you?

Speaker 2: 2:00

You're a bit nervous, aren't you?

Speaker 1: 2:01

I'm not nervous. I'm just wondering what's going to come out of your mouth next.

Speaker 2: 2:04

Makes both of us so we're on a field, aren't we?

Speaker 1: 2:09

So, steve, the first question I'm going to ask you, because I can't resist, is what was your first impression of moving to Australia, into what you call dingo land?

Speaker 2: 2:21

Well, firstly, I'm going to try and constrain my narrative because I don't want Mike going. I told you so I'm beeping out too much. So it was daunting, incredibly daunting. I came from a small town of three and a half or 3,258 people. A little place down in South Canterbury, moved to the big city of Brisbane back in 1993, so probably a long time ago. I'll never forget driving into the city the first time. Here's this bloody, you know larrikin kid from the country with his head out the window looking up, going oh bloody hell, look at those and put your head back in the window, you fool. Whoa, they're big buildings and we hadn't even made it into the city yet. It was about three storeys.

Speaker 1: 3:10

You know, maybe that's why we got together, because I come from a small town in North Queensland and I used to go to Brisbane too and stick my head out the window and go, whoa, look at those buildings.

Speaker 2: 3:18

Yeah, no, it was definitely interesting, the first being from Waimati those that don't really know the area. It is a lovely little town. Once you move away as a kid it was a little bit trying at times, but having been back just recently about 12 months ago I actually saw it, for the beauty of it is it's a beautiful, beautiful place, very similar to Prosserpine here up in North Queensland Good farming background, community feel. Everyone knows everyone. Hence, being a 21 year old lad, you don't really embrace that. However, it had it's shortfalls as a 21 year old and that was me off to rule the world. I was going to come and take as much Australian money as I could and get the hell out of there and head to England and around the world will root my boot. 31 years later, I'm still in bloody Australia. I was going to come and take as much.

Speaker 1: 4:10

Australian money as I could and get the hell out of there and head to England and around the world. Well, root my boot. 31 years later, I'm still in bloody. Australia so yeah, you sure are, and not only are you in. Australia. You're in Australia, deep mate, because you've got six kids, three dogs even a cat to boot.

Speaker 2: 4:19

Yeah, I can't play the banjo.

Speaker 1: 4:21

And no goats.

Speaker 2: 4:24

Oh shit, I'm in trouble.

Speaker 1: 4:28

So if you're wondering, as I said before, why I actually chose Steve to be my first guest, well, firstly, why not?

Speaker 2: 4:35

because he's my best friend, right A little pressure of me putting it on you. Who's going to be first? Who's going to be first? It's got to be me, it's got to be me.

Speaker 1: 4:42

I would have taken a bit of offence if I didn't, so you know.

Speaker 2: 4:45

One ruid springs to mind Ruby.

Speaker 1: 4:48

Yeah, Ruby, actually she got in first. Ruby got in first, but that's because state titles came before I had Star Lincoln stalled.

Speaker 2: 4:57

All right, All I can say she's got to keep checking her left-hand front wheel. That's all I say.

Speaker 1: 5:08

Yeah. So back to that. As I said before, steve is a mechanic and back to the reason why I chose Steve besides being my best friend and probably getting taken out if I didn't have him as my first guest, was the fact that the people that have known Steve for the past, since he's been in my life, which is 21 years or so I'm not good on details you remember, if you didn't just notice, steve actually knew how many people lived in his town that he grew up in and what year he came to Australia.

Speaker 2: 5:35

I'm flat out remembering when we got married, or my kids' names. Okay, they're just minor details. Work on that one Minor. The reason I remembered 3,258 was I could never get over the fact that I'd go back year after year and they hadn't changed it to 3,257. I was devastated, but I really did. I matter. You know, one person left hand and yeah, they hadn't changed that sign. I was actually quite. I was traumatised there for a while.

Speaker 1: 6:02

Yeah Well, we'll revisit that story later. All right, that's a story in your head. You know that. So for those of you who are listening, who know Steve and they've known him for quite some time Steve was always, or most often, known as a bit of a rough, gruff, tough, tough love dad, and one of his favourite sayings was small children and animals are scared of me. Okay, so I'm painting a picture here of a mechanic, very skilled, talented mechanic, loved his beers and had a favourite saying which I'll allow you to tell the audience.

Speaker 2: 6:41

Just one more.

Speaker 1: 6:42

Just one more.

Speaker 2: 6:43

I even had a number plate printed and put it on my beer fridge. I loved it. Yeah, just one more, just one more. I even had a number plate printed and put it on my beer fridge. I loved it, just one more. Even my kids go. Oh, not just one more, dad, because you know, one more means 10.

Speaker 1: 6:55

Yeah, steve doesn't understand what just one means. Just one is often translated into just 10. Okay, and that doesn't just include beers. That includes beers. That includes cars, cars I don't even know how many cars. Steve can tell you later how many cars we're up to.

Speaker 1: 7:10

However, this is, this is how steve um, people got to know steve over the years, got to know and love steve and some, yeah. Well, also, he was known as someone that you wouldn't really want to mess with, right? So over the past couple of years, steve's gone through quite a transformation and this is the reason why I think he would, why I know he's going to be a fantastic first guest on my show about, which is focused on uplifting yourself and uplifting others, which is focused on uplifting yourself and uplifting others, because Steve always has uplifted people in his own fashion over the years. Okay, and he was a fixer and still is a fixer. He loved fixing cars and now he loves helping fix people's minds and hearts.

Speaker 1: 8:02

So, steve, what I'd like to ask you is how did you start that transformation, or that journey, from being rough, tough, tough, love dad, rough and gruff? One of his names was Grumps. In fact, our granddaughter calls him Grumps. Okay, how did you go from that approach to where you are now? So let's rewind a little bit and go back over the past few years and give us some of your experiences that you've been through.

Speaker 2: 8:35

Yeah, well, where it started, probably two years ago for my major transformation was two years ago, when Leanne had seeked some inspiration or some change for herself, for her lifting, and she'd got onto and she'd found a guy called Mark England. She found him quite funny. I dare say Mark's going to listen to this, mate. You're not as funny as I am. However, you go all right For a yank, you're okay. So she had great delight in a lot of Mark's posts, et cetera, and then accidentally stumbled upon the Unlifted.

Speaker 2: 9:13

We had gone to Magnetic Island for a holiday and Mark had gone off Instagram or something, and then this Unlifted had popped up and Lee's going wow, look at this, mate, what do you think of this? And I went I don't know, just look, give it a go. That's pretty much been our whole whole bloody life, uh, together really, um. So I had a look and again, yeah, I was a rough, tough, bloody she'll be right sort of bloke. But you know I knew that I actually had emotion and feelings as well, and a lot of those could see it, you know. But I always took what lee, uh, when she explored something or researched something with, you know, 100 um commitment, because lee is a is a borderline stalker in my joking side networker yeah, well, there you go.

Speaker 2: 10:00

But leo always give it 100 with what she does and with her weightlifting and powerlifting and all that stuff, her being a mum, her being a wife, her being a friend, you know, mum, she's just a bloody legend. So I went oh, I'm going to have a look at this. And actually she really enjoyed it. I listened to a few podcasts and I went oh, interesting, yeah, hmm, she'll be right back. I went oh, that was a little bit close to home, or, hmm, that's interesting. So now Lee comes home after this holiday and she goes mate, I'm signing up, I'm going to do it. I went no, give it a go, why not? So we both signed up and started out. I remember the very first Zoom meeting. That was a feet and a half. If there was any ever photo footage that anyone would want to see, it's lean. I'm trying to work out to zoom meetings because there's looks on our faces like stale bottle of pisses and surprised deer in the headlights, and here we are trying to work out how the zoom thing.

Speaker 1: 10:56

Little did we know we were being recorded and then I just like to let the audience know I actually do have photos of that process and I have the original video of Steve and I trying to work out how to use Zoom. And here we are, two years later, creating a podcast together.

Speaker 2: 11:14

Banana one, banana two. That's already been taken, so we'll take tech-tard one and tech-tard two because, yeah, technology is not our greatest. So we worked it out and we jumped on the podcast with Mark England and I think six or seven others and I'll be honest, what the hell is this? What have I done? You mean the course.

Speaker 1: 11:33

Yeah, the level one course. Level one course, yes, yeah.

Speaker 2: 11:36

So I'm like, oh God, bloody hell, alarm hold about third episode in or third weekend, because it was every um every tuesday at nine o'clock or eight o'clock and I went holy heck, this has got some grunt. And then I sat there and the biggest thing I looked at wasn't the screen anymore. I actually started looking at myself, and that was. That was when the the transition became very obvious to me that of all these years of insecurities, blaming everyone else, I've got some really good one-liners, you know, over my years of listening and learning, but I've always, you know, I'll show you how you sleep when you're dead, and you know that's just how I am. You know, don't come to me for sympathy.

Speaker 2: 12:25

All of a sudden it was well, what, billy, it's actually? This is doing more damage than it is actually for the good. There's only so many years you can keep this appearance up. Didn't mean I rolled over and started painting me bloody nails, pink and, you know, wearing dresses. It just meant that it was time for me to actually have a good long hard. Look at me, because the old me was pretty damn awesome, but I'll tell you what the new me is even better. So it was quite an interesting few weeks. Then, lo and behold, we get further and deeper and further and deeper and all this hate and, I guess, lost. I was very lost, little did I know. All of a sudden it turned around and it bit me on the ass and I went wow, that's quite interesting.

Speaker 1: 13:20

When you say it bit you on your ass, what exactly do you mean by that? How did it bite you on the ass?

Speaker 2: 13:27

I hated my mother. For those that don't know me, my mother was. I hadn't spoken to mum for probably 15 years before she died, soon after my father died. My dad died when he was well, I was 25. The old man died quite young and mum was a raving alcoholic which we weren't really aware of. The old man did a great job of keeping that quiet. Well, he didn't keep it quiet. They just, you know, you just didn't look at those things. They're mum and dad's.

Speaker 2: 13:56

So after the old man died, some shit went down. I ended up with an old brother and so I'm sort of actually, if you actually got the banjo I need playing now because I've got an uncle brother and I've got all this shit going down in my family. And here I am growing up thinking this is pretty cool, but yeah, little did I know. It's all these things that molded me into what I became years later. I've got this hate and absolute.

Speaker 2: 14:20

You know mum lost everything that mum and dad had worked for. Um drank herself to the ground, smoked every day. She was alive and then just decided that oh shit, I've got cancer. Well, no shit, sherlock, you know you didn't think you were going to get out of this one, did you so? Anyway, when mum died, I took pride in jumping on a grove. I put her ashes in the ground and I jumped on it and made sure that bass was not coming back. And then, halfway through my inlifter level one, I had my one-on-one session with Mark England and we broke it down to the hate that I had for mum. It wasn't the hate that I had for mum, it was I actually hated a part of me, and carrying that for all those years was actually quite damaging and quite cumbersome and incredibly it was yeah, it just wasn't healthy.

Speaker 1: 15:14

So when you say that you carried that hate and it damaged you and in thinking about not just you but the relationships around you how do you think that came out, that hate? Where did that come out? Because, remember, at the start I talked about small children and animals being scared of you. It was rough.

Speaker 2: 15:34

Like you know, I'd like to think a lot of my friends do listen to this. But yeah, blunt Bob was very Blunt Bob. You know that was my name. You know you want a straight answer. Answer. You go see him or leave your feelings at the front door, because I was very blunt and very harsh, thinking that that was the right way to be, etc.

Speaker 2: 15:52

Um, one story, little side story, that brought me to tears one night tough guys, don't cry, that's bullshit. I can blow that theory out the door right now was when my own best mates that next to me right now came to me and well, we were sitting on the couch and she said I feel like I'm walking on eggshells around you. I don't know what to say. I don't know what to do. And here I am thinking well, piss off, mate, you're my best mate. And little did I know that this harsh me at times it wasn't all the time was actually hurting those that I loved the most. So I'm thinking that I'm doing the right thing by being this tough guy and providing and nothing gets to me. And yet the ones that I dearly loved was my wife and my kids and my friends. They were the ones that were actually paying the price. Little did I know.

Speaker 1: 16:44

And so in saying that, like that, your people closest to you were paying the price, how do you think at that time you thought you were doing at that time did you think you were doing the best you could do? Like was that approach, what you thought was what people around you needed?

Speaker 2: 16:59

absolutely, yeah, I was the fixer. I've been a fixer since I was. I've always been a fixer. I fix everything and then I'd get angry when I couldn't fix it and I'd get angry when people didn't agree with my opinion, even though my opinion was right. Fools, you know, I'd get angry, you know, and this anger was coming out more and more and more. You know, it's been my life. I remember a. I was bought a key ring from a dear friend when I first got my license at 15, and this key ring read, and I'll never forget it those of you that think you know everything are annoying to those of us that do so. Here I am, my, you know, doing the best I could. Well, little did I know.

Speaker 1: 17:50

So that desire to fix? Okay. So we know you love fixing cars and motorbikes and lawnmowers.

Speaker 2: 17:53

I'm really good at that.

Speaker 1: 17:54

Lawnmowers that break every single time you use them, especially when your son drives them. We know you love fixing mechanical things and you also love fixing people's problems. So from your best mate's point of view over the past 20 years, I used to call Steve the stray catcher. Now, what I mean by that is he used to meet a lot of people in his workshop and those people were often women who didn't know much about cars and came to him as a mechanic and they didn't have much money and they were stuck or younger girls or younger people, often girls, um that came, that came to steve and said you know, we don't have like because we live in a backpacker town, we don't have much money. We don't have like cause we live in a backpacker town, we don't have much money, we don't have a job. Do you have any work for me? So there were many instances where Steve brought these ladies home and and we gave them a bed. A couple of backpackers lived with us for six months or more.

Speaker 1: 18:56

I think there were a couple of ladies that you know you're fixing their cars. But my question to you is what was behind that need to to want to help or fix those people?

Speaker 2: 19:09

I think, um, so my fixing, I, I did a, I did a landmark forum years and years and years ago. Lan calls it the sorry course. They, they put you totally at wit's end, um, by keeping you up all hours Like they break you down so that you can actually, emotionally, you've got to go back to your start. So it's a reset. When I finally reached my breaking point, I was four years old. I was walking down the hall at Eaton Street where we were living. I couldn't sleep and I walked into the lounge room and mom and dad are standing in front of the fire arguing. And now man's got a hold of mom. Um, and night it was game on donkey kong. I was there. You know, this is this is quite some time ago and I remember looking at it and they looked at me and they yelled at me and I ran back to my room. So what have I done? Like for dad to be that angry at me, to have grabbed mum and yell and scream what the hell have I done? So that was, I think, and I remember at that course being there. So move on, I don't know how many years.

Speaker 2: 20:18

And then you're a fixer and you're a mechanic and you're bloody Batman without a cape, pretty much some days. And then I go through and I meet Leanne and Leanne at that stage was a little bit broken a couple of kids, so I've got this single mum that hey, don't get me wrong, it wasn't all about I'm going to fix Leanne or whatever, but the situation. So I'm just clearing the air with this. He only brings home straight women. They wear a straight. I was one of them. Yeah, just so that people don't think, yeah, this weirdo's stalking Sheila's, but it was the fact.

Speaker 2: 20:56

I think, because I had this thing from such a young age is protect the women, like look after women, because you know they are important and you know. Then, when I met Leanne with the story, you know our story and our journey, it was look after you know, and then these people would come in. I just, I had this. I'm a fixer, I'm a fixer, I know how to fix things and you know, and it was a bloody, it was a broken record, and then in the end it goes winning and a stop and I went yeah, I suppose you know what Once a fixer, always a fixer, and that's okay.

Speaker 1: 21:34

Going back to that situation with your mum and dad in the lounge room, what did you think to yourself at that moment, when your dad was yelling at your mum?

Speaker 2: 21:45

He had her, he grabbed her. Well, he had a hold of her and they were yelling and it was quite boisterous and quite animated. I don't know whether any punches or hands were thrown, but I dare say yes, um, purely because of the way I what happened to me later in life, that's you know, I was flogged reasonably heavily over a number of times. What did I do? I ran back to my room wondering what have I done? Straight into victim mentality, four years of age, not understanding what a victim was, couldn't even spell it, but I went straight into that. I've got to fix this.

Speaker 1: 22:16

I've got to fix this, I've got to, I've got to, I've got to. So you wanted to fix your mum and dad. Yeah, and do you believe that? That's the moment where you thought it's my job to fix either? Not necessarily people, but the situations that they're in so that you needed to fix the situation?

Speaker 2: 22:32

Yeah, because it was my fault, because here I am, up at whatever hour of the night and I've upset them and I've walked in and they're now yelling at me and it's my fault and I've got to fix this, you know.

Speaker 1: 22:42

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 22:43

And that you know, especially through the landmark forum and now having a bit of a loose end there, when you come out of that one you go what the hell was that? But at least within Lifted, there's been some solution offered as far as you actually get to answer your own questions. So yeah, unbeknownst to me, with a really long roundabout over there back to here and through there, my fixing days, I believe, came from there and hence the reason mechanicing, hence the reason backpacks with no rooms, bloody pie ladies that don't have generators, that go, and I felt sorry for them. I felt one of my most hated words. I felt sympathy. I was sympathetic, oh, sympathetic. I jumped in. Oh my God, I feel for them. It wasn't empathy, it was sympathy.

Speaker 2: 23:33

So all of a sudden I've got this symmetrical pathetic going on. I didn't know the story and now, looking back, a lot of people create their problem because that's what they know. So here I am helping them. These people that I was fixing, I think had a bit of a. You know, they had a bit of a serial ongoing.

Speaker 1: 23:52

You know, this is what they did and there was always another Steve around the corner to help them fix something you know, and while we're on this subject of fixing and bringing home stray women for the people, for the listeners, just to give a bit of context on actually how we met, because that's very it's an interesting, interesting story. So you know, steve and I both were in a period of our lives. So, steve, going back to the start of the podcast, I said Steve moved to Bundaberg, so Steve was living in Bundaberg and I was living in Brisbane, which is about a four-hour drive.

Speaker 2: 24:28

Yeah, about four hours away, I suppose yeah.

Speaker 1: 24:30

Details Four-hour drive, close enough for me 20 minutes, depending if it's weekend. And of course I was driving a busted-ass car that needed a lot of work.

Speaker 2: 24:39

And one headlight.

Speaker 1: 24:40

I had no money. I was at university studying, teaching, and I was a single mum of two children. And I met Steve on a dating app, which one of my friends decided was a great idea, and I consequently told her she was going to get murdered if she went on those things.

Speaker 2: 24:58

It's funny because I only went on because one of my mates at the time goes are you finding any nice women in Bundaboo? Nah, mate, I'm not a fifth generation farmer or a frigging bornie mate. They're a bloody different breed up here. And unless you can drink a 750 a rum a night, you're respected as nothing. You know, holy shit.

Speaker 1: 25:16

So Steve and I were reluctantly on this dating app. Do you remember what it was called?

Speaker 2: 25:20

RSVP.

Speaker 1: 25:21

RSVP. Okay, so we were both on the app me convinced that I was going to meet someone that was going to stalk me and kill me, to the point where I used to go and meet some men for coffee in the biggest shopping centre I could find, and I wouldn't go directly back to my car, I'd do loops, I'd do like big laps around the shopping centre, looking over my shoulder to make sure they weren't following me. So I was very distrustful of this whole process and Steve started chatting to me on this RSVP site.

Speaker 2: 25:50

I had to pay money, mate. Yeah, he had to pay to talk to me.

Speaker 1: 25:53

Now I'm paying him to be on this podcast.

Speaker 2: 25:57

It's a bit of a loop when you look at it. It was quite funny because, again, I don't know, there's no visual going out this because there could be, maybe We'll see. I, um, I'd started losing my hair at 21, so by the stage I was 30, so I was reasonably I could grow a damn mean hedge around the top of my ears and had a bit of a fried egg, and you know doing my best to you know, with die, with dignity when it come to a haircut. So my profile picture is when I'm about 23, with all these, you know, but it was a bit foofy, but blonde hair and I'm holding our bloody pet, cat Snow. That's jet black. So here I am with hair and a cat and there's nowhere. It's not even warm to what I am now. But yeah, and then Leanne's all dollied up at her cousin's wedding and it was actually your writing, don't get me wrong. You're not a bad looking sort but, it was actually your writing.

Speaker 2: 26:50

It was. I want someone to details, I want someone to make me feel at home and camping and all that sort of stuff.

Speaker 1: 26:58

And that was what sort of I won him over with my words.

Speaker 2: 27:03

Yeah, the words, bloody words. Oh, mar Summers would have a heart attack if she knew she was my English teacher at school. I used to get bashed over the head by a handbag full of five-cent pieces the old bitty for playing up in her class. If only she knew the words and the language and all the vocabulary that we use nowadays, she'd be horrified. She finally made it into my life. So, yeah, it was actually Leanne's words, and so I remember one Saturday details pouring with her own. I had no customers, I was working a Saturday morning and, for those that knew MSN, you'd jump on a computer none of this bloody texting or all that bullshit and you'd open it up and then it would go to the bottom of the taskbar and you'd get this if someone was online that you knew or you were friends with and you know, know, I think I'd invested eight dollars fifty to talk to you.

Speaker 1: 27:52

So big spender, I'm totally worth it I was hoping like hell that this eight dollars.

Speaker 2: 27:56

You know I actually it was a stage where she's busy chatting to all these other blokes. Whatever, I don't blame her. I'm in bundy, I'm bloody holding a cat and she's she's in brisbane I didn't like cats at that stage either.

Speaker 2: 28:07

No, so anyway. So this one Saturday morning there's bling and then, anyway, leanne's online, so I had nothing better to do. I was just doing accounts or something in the back office. So I'm busy on the computer. Hey mate, how you going? Not expecting her to reply, because that was actually. I'd take that back. You always reply, but then you'd just go missing in action. It was, hey mate.

Speaker 1: 28:28

Because he might be stalking me.

Speaker 2: 28:29

Right that was my story Four hours and 20 minutes away. So then I got a hi, how are you? And I said, yeah, good mate, how's your day going? And she goes bloody terrible. I went oh heck, she's written more than four words I'm in love. No, I went, oh, what's going on? She goes, oh, bloody.

Speaker 2: 28:51

I ran out of petrol and I was doing an assignment last night and my computer turns off and this and that and that and she was carrying on and I've got a sneaking suspicion she was a tad hungover. If I remember right as well at that stage I think she'd been out with Jamie, one of her mates from uni, and had a couple of drinks, so she might have been just feeling a little bit puffed. So anyway, I said you ran out of fuel. She said, yeah, every time I've got to come home I'm trying to get to work and I've contacted RACQ, and every time I've got to walk home to see if the kids are all right and I've come to my car because you've got to be at your car with RACQ for them to bring you fuel. And I'm laughing by this stage I had to check the front of the counter in case someone had walked in, because all you'd be able to hear is this just belly laughter from out the back.

Speaker 2: 29:31

So, anyway, she's typing away because you've got to remember, you're not actually physically talking. So I said look, mate, just go and get a bloody fuel container, go down to the servo, go and get 10 litres or 20 litres of fuel, get the assistant to ring me and I'll just give him a credit card over the phone. So, ryan, you'll appreciate this. Oh, piss off has come across the screen. I went oh, you can't do that. Oh, I can. You know, I'm just off to do it. Anyway, just if anyone knows, leanne with her very open-minded, stubborn, digs her heels and no, I'm not doing it. She didn't do it. So she ended up going to work and ever since then after that, we just chatted away and chatted away, and chatted away, um, and every night we'd chat on the computer just typing. So this went on, actually, and I'm am I jumping the gun about the relationship side of things, or?

Speaker 2: 30:25

you just just take it away all right, okay, yeah, over this way, please. Um, I, as leanne said back at the start, we've been married for 20 years, been together for 21, and I actually honestly believe this is why, because of our how we met each other and how, um, we struck a friendship. So there wasn't much. I didn't get to know about her, so we'd chat away just via typing in a computer and read a screen. So there's very little emotion, but you could roughly work out what was going on, hadn't even heard her voice. So every day was another adventure with Leanne because, holy shit, she'd been through a shit ton of, um, exciting stuff. So then, I reckon about six, seven weeks, she finally gave me her phone number and I went holy shit, she gave me her phone number, okay. So I rang her straight away and her first words to me well, you, dag, I didn't mean. Now.

Speaker 1: 31:21

No, he rang me straight away Like he could have waited at least like two minutes, so you didn't appear so desperate.

Speaker 2: 31:26

I wasn't desperate, I was that bloody nervous. It wasn't funny, holy heck. So after getting her phone number, we'd chat every night and there were times where, if you don't know Leanne, she's a 7 o'clock sort of girl. I'd be talking to her until 10 o'clock and I'd ask are you still awake, mate? You could hear her sucking up the dribble yeah, yep, yep, yep, yep. I was listening. No, she'd fallen asleep.

Speaker 2: 31:51

So three months we courted, if you want to call it the old age, you know, like Nana and Grandad did back in the day. So, no, ducking out to the pub getting full of piss, picking up a root and then getting to know them. This is, we got to know each other. And every night it was what happened next, because we got to know each other. And every night it was what happened next Because, like I said, one day, if you've got about four hours, sit down with Leanne, because it was a rather exciting time of my life. So I was what happened next? What happened next? And then pretty much the friendship came from the fact that there were no secrets, there was no hidden agenda, there was no. I got to know the woman. Little did she know that I didn't have blonde hair and a black cap, but I kept that one almost to the end. You know I was a bit sneaky with it. I told her straight away that was an older photo. I don't have anything new.

Speaker 1: 32:38

But he did say he had a hump in his back and he dragged his wooden leg.

Speaker 2: 32:41

Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I was a pirate. I didn't want to hurry me arties. All the time I was was a pirate. You know, I didn't worry me hearties all the time I was living in rumbland. So holy shit, right. You know, the only thing missing at the time was a parrot. So, yeah, we um, that's what I put our a lot. Well, I put part of our success, of our relationship down is the fact that we got to know each other and we got to to the depth of the personality of the person, not the physical or the, you know, sexual or anything aside. We got to know each other. And that's where, when I finally did pluck up the courage to go to Brisbane to meet her, she was down at a touch footy final and I sort of worked out roughly where she was playing. And I had another couple of photos by then of newer photos, and it was karen's 12th birthday that day and I'd gone down and that's that's how I'll just that's the eldest one, um, eldest daughter, sorry, karen.

Speaker 2: 33:39

so anyway, I'd gone down and strategically, I sat next to a family watching the same game. We were up on a bit of a hill so I thought I don't want to stick out, um, because you know, with my hunchback and my wooden leg I might give it away. So I sat next to this family and you could see her constantly looking around and she had another little mate with her from gymnastics, bethany. She was looking around, looking for me, and then you go, is she here? You know, you run to the side and is she here? She's looking around and I can't see him. Now, I've worked out who you are. So then I finally walked up to her and she'd finished playing this game. So here we've got our mate. She's sweaty, here is a bloody mess and grass all over. And I said G'day, how are you going? She goes oh, you're still here. I went yeah, mate, do you want to go have a beer? It was love at first sight. It really was Nothing.

Speaker 1: 34:24

Nothing much has changed either. I'm still sweaty with chalk all over me from training.

Speaker 2: 34:30

It's gone from grass to chalk yeah it's.

Speaker 1: 34:31

you know, I was running around on the grass sweaty. Now I'm running around the gym sweaty, so at least I'm authentic in terms to that.

Speaker 2: 34:39

So that's the saving one of the very many stray dogs that I believe I've saved it's been. My quest is to save all these women. Little did I know from being the age of four or five. So yeah, move on Back to our story of anger and hate. So I've jumped on my mother's grave and I've gone right. That's it. Goodbye, yahoo, no more. No more, you can't hurt me anymore. You bitch Blah, blah, blah, sitting there with Mark doing my one-on-one and he goes. Who hurt who, mate? I went that there and he goes. Who hurt who? It was me. I was hurting me. Hacking someone from the other side in a grave Hurt me. It was me hurting me, it was my feelings, it was my thoughts, it was my hate. So, after a few word changes of you know what we do is four step, etc. And we write our stories out, we slow our stories down and we learn to breathe through them.

Speaker 2: 35:37

I forgave my mother and at that instant it was like those big, tall buildings when I was driving into brisbane for the very first time at 21. That was the weight that was lifted from me. I didn't hate my mum anymore. I didn't know my mum all that well, I didn't know her life, I didn't know what she'd been through, I didn't understand her, you know, like her journey with her eldest son prior to meeting my dad, and all that. Like, all of a sudden, there was all this clarity. So I'm going oh, my goodness, I don't hate my mum, I actually forgive my mum and I feel sorry for my mum. And with that, the I changed. I changed dramatically because my mum wasn't hurting me anymore. I'd stopped hurting myself. It was how I was reacting and how I was dealing with it. And all of a sudden, all these other little changes, like I remember coming home to Lee one day and saying oh, they've turned a new leaf. And Lee just looked at me and she goes they've turned a new leaf. And I went oh, I can talk.

Speaker 1: 36:36

Oh yeah, Steve often came home and said, gee, that person's changed a lot. They're just all of a sudden changed. And I said, have they changed? So, Steve, you can explain.

Speaker 2: 36:57

Yeah, so it came from, you know, looking at the stories, the stories that were rattling around in my head. So I'd stopped looking as the victim and I'd written out a lot of the trauma that I'd had in my life. You know my floggings and my journey growing up, my journey with my sister, my journey with my mum and dad, and I actually saw it for what it actually was. It was a journey. It didn't make me, it just was a part of me and I let it control me and I was not becoming the person I thought I was. I was becoming this. You know the person I thought I was. I was becoming this. You know, angry, resentful. Honesty is the best policy, you know. Blah, blah, blah. Well, okay, honesty is, but it's how you deliver it Without that anger and without that tone of voice and without that unsurety. You know, because I was beating myself up. It was that bad, don't get me wrong.

Speaker 2: 37:50

The kids have had a bloody good life. So the six kids Karen, maddie, jess, georgia, cooper and Ben, and all the other bloody kids that they've brought into our lives as well, and we also have a beautiful little granddaughter, ava Marie. I had to when I was trying to call my kids in the yard. But I had to. When I was trying to call my kids in the yard, I had to at one stage because of my anger and my frustration in my voice because no one understood me.

Speaker 2: 38:17

If I was calling especially Kufa, one of my twins, I'd have to put my thumb up because every time I called him I had such a tone in my voice he was shit scared of me. They had a good life, don't get me wrong. Well, they've got a great life, but of that time there was just those times when I'd have to put my thumb up. So he thought I wasn't yelling at him and I did not see or hear this. So I'd put my thumb up, call his name and he'd look at me and then he'd come up and he'd put his thumb up and I went. Oh my God, what have I become?

Speaker 1: 38:47

what have I become? Actually, when you say that, what have I become, and think of that very situation.

Speaker 2: 38:56

It's not what you say. No, it's how I'm saying it.

Speaker 1: 38:58

It's how you are saying it. And that's a really important point that we've both learnt through our mindset journey in the way we use our voices. It's the tone of our voice that often speaks to people more than actually what we're saying. And slowing our speech down, keeping our breath low instead of breathing into our chest, softens your tone and with a softer tone people find you easier to converse with and listen to your, to what you're saying to them better and approachable.

Speaker 2: 39:36

You know, the approachability of me was, um, at some days you don't want to come near me, hence the uh, small children and dogs are scared of me. Well, you know what? It's actually actually not a really good name to have. Looking back, so, yeah, back to the unlifted journey. All of a sudden, my life changed. I actually looked at me. I stopped being a victim. I actually looked at where I was going instead of just bumbling along. I looked at the relationships I had with my wife and my children and my workmates and I stopped blaming everyone. I stopped with my wife and my children and my workmates and I stopped blaming everyone. I stopped with my insecurities. I actually had a redirection change and I actually looked at me. Yeah, I've been a mechanic all this time. I've been a fixer. I've also been in business for 20 years, so I must be not a bad mechanic. I must be not a bad business person.

Speaker 2: 40:26

All of a sudden, you start to celebrate your wins, mate. You know it's, we keep looking at you know they have those cliched as you cut half full. Is it half empty? Well, I keep looking at it as half empty. Um, do I have my health? Yes, I do. Do I have these people that love me? Yes, I do, and quite often we take our anger and frustrate on those closest to us. Walk down a street and bump into a complete stranger. You say sorry, walk into your household, walk into one of your small children in the way They've come to say g'day, dad, how was your day, or whatever, walk in to see one of your kids and you bump into them and get out of the bloody way. You know, like how does that work? So, yeah, these changes started to happen. So work. So yeah, well, this, these changes started to happen.

Speaker 2: 41:13

So I started to look at my past, and I actually had to. I looked at how I was brought up and I could see the pattern that was happening. I was becoming my parents. Well, I'd become my parents. So mum, being the alcoholic, she was my old man, not knowing how to talk and converse and his emotions, you know, I think I heard it was proud of me three times in my life and he loved me four. So, man, I was winning by the age of 25. So then I went no, that's not for me. And that's where the change came and mate the change in our relationship and the change with my children. It's just 10 to 20-fold, if not 100-fold, because Lee and I have always said this, you know, since our start, with our journeys. We don't bring our children up, we bring our children's children's children up because we are our parents, we become our parents. So I was becoming that.

Speaker 2: 42:02

I wasn't drunk by any means, but I'd have the beers and I thought I was funny. And just one more. I thought it was great it was. I even got them to recite it and all this stuff. You know the kids would. I still am funny, but I just thought I was hilarious. But I think I was quite offensive, I was quite abrupt, I was quite bloody annoying, to be quite honest.

Speaker 1: 42:24

And, reflecting back on that, how you were talking about your tone of voice and your emotion. One of our favourite sayings if you will, if that's what you want to call it that we've picked up from Mark England was you don't pick up on your parents' emotions, you pick up. And so, with Steve, how do you feel that? You know, the last two years have been a real eye-opener for you and for me, and you have talked about how you've changed your approach and your words, your stories, your tone of voice, your approach to your relationships. But how do you feel those first 10 years of bringing up well longer than that 15 years of bringing up your children with the emotion that you did have? How do you feel that would be not affecting if we want to use the word effect, you can. But do you think that that has an effect on where the people around you are right now?

Speaker 2: 43:31

Absolutely what happens and it's a bit of a it's not a. It doesn't now, doesn't take 15 years to fix. That's one of the greatest things I've noticed is and bear in mind, it was not this bloody menace, mate. We had some wonderful times. We had some fantastic times, but when it was rough it was rough. You know you've got the amygdala hijack, you know it's all of. Oh, you look at the bad times. Well, shit, look at all the good times we had as well. We had a hell of a lot of good times and goes from a flat line to a very steep curve very fast.

Speaker 2: 44:09

So for my two years of my change and my approach to my children, my relationships have healed and my relationship where there was that small gap of anger and frustration and hostility, it's all gone. So in two years I've been able to correct the 10, 12, 15 years of damage. So it doesn't take another 15 years for it to come good. So if you start now, it's like it's it's. It's my age old saying and I was trying not to use this one, but I'm going to use it when's the best time to plant a fruit tree?

Speaker 1: 44:41

oh yeah, um in 10 years, 10 years ago.

Speaker 2: 44:47

So you know it's not in autumn, it's not in winter, it's not summer. It's plant a fruit tree 10 years ago and we're eating fruit now. So for every little bit of change I've done in the last two years, it's making a difference. The change is there.

Speaker 1: 45:03

It certainly is making a difference, and can you give us an example of how some of the relationships around you have changed, how your relationship with other people have changed, how they've responded to you? Can you think of an example? It can be a friend, family.

Speaker 2: 45:18

It's interesting Doors closed, doors open. It's actually quite a funny situation I think, looking at. Probably the best place to start is my. Just one more is just no more. I don't drink. I've given drink up 10 months now. It was just part of my. Oh God, I'm sick of bloody, waking up a bit fuzzy, oh shit, I can't drive. Oh, I'm a bit tired. I'm hardly drinking. I gave up drinking. I'm an ex-drinker, I'm a non-drinker, I do not drink. That was a big change of my. It's probably been the biggest stick out. Unless you're living at home with me, I just don't drink anymore.

Speaker 2: 46:02

That has changed some of my friend circles. Some people have taken it as a positive, some people have taken it as a negative and when I say doors open, doors close, they do. I was warned by this by another friend of mine who didn't. She goes, mate, you watch, friends change. I went ah, piss off, mate. Sure as shit it did. So thanks, spesh.

Speaker 2: 46:21

Yeah, and my change with my friends, my good friends, have become better. The ones that were fringe dwellers or whatever, the ones that liked the. It's funny, a lot of friends liked my honesty until it was directed at them. Then they'd run a mile. No, you're fucking rude. No, hang on a minute. You just wanted to be honest, didn't you? But yeah, the doors have closed, but my doors have opened to a lot of different new people and like-minded. You know it's.

Speaker 2: 46:49

One thing I wanted to talk about was the ripple effect. My change in my life has created a lot of change in a lot of other people's lives. A lot of our friends don't drink around us anymore or drink less, because they oh we don't have to drink with you guys. You know it's a very social habit here in Australia, new Zealand, america, wherever you are listening, because they're very sad. You want a beer, do you want a whatever? It's very social. You know, I've got my drink of water in front of me now and I've got a mate that turns up on a Sunday. We usually debrief the world in the shed and solve all the problems over a beer. Well, we drink zero beer now. And guess what he drinks?

Speaker 1: 47:28

Zero beer.

Speaker 2: 47:29

Yeah, because he actually, oh, I've got to get off the piss. Well, mate, now's the time, you know. You can get off it with me, you know.

Speaker 1: 47:36

So that ripple effect that you're talking about and the relationships changes that you've had and some people have left, some people have come in and the relationships in your direct family have obviously improved your communication with your kids and with me and with other family members Massive.

Speaker 1: 47:56

So, thinking about that, how do you feel that the changes that you've made have helped you continue the role of being able to in the old language we call it fix. Okay, but how has this allowed you to help uplift the people that I just spoke about around you, so your friends, your family and the people that you've worked with in the enlifted world as a mindset coach?

Speaker 2: 48:24

Well, I'm not fixing as many believe it or not. As a mindset coach, well, I'm not fixing as many believe it or not. If you want to say uplifted hence, it's your. You know, this is the. I've been lifting up, you know I've been. I'm not, I was never above anyone, but now I want more to be with me. So I'm trying to teach. I'm not trying, I am teaching. I'm teaching those with what I've learnt and I want them to teach. I'm not trying, I am teaching. I'm teaching those with what I've learned and I want them to be an equal with me, because if anyone gets 20% of what I've learned so far, their life will change dramatically. So I'm trying to bring them up.

Speaker 2: 48:58

You know anyone that's down, you put a hand out. You don't, you know, leave them where they are, give them a hand and if you can't pull them up, you get behind the bastards and you push them up, just like a car. That's right, right, you know. You know the the. You think about my journey as a mechanic and now think about this everyone that's listening. Do you wait to be broken down on the side of the road in your car before you call a mechanic? No, you take it in every 10. Well, some of you, some of you do, my wife doesn't, but anyway, that's another story. That's why I don't put service stickers on your car. You don't bloody, look at them anyway.

Speaker 1: 49:35

Details.

Speaker 2: 49:35

Yeah, exactly. So you service your car every 10,000 K. You take your car in to a reputable mechanic. Maybe that's why she doesn't service, she hasn't found one. But you get your car constantly serviced. You get your tyres checked, your water checked, your brakes checked. So it's all very good going forward. But you've got to be able to stop. You get your. You know we do computer analysis nowadays with all these new cars. We've got all these scan tools that we plug in and do a health check on the car and see if there's anything up and coming. But as the driver, what do we do? We wait until we broke and then we go. Oh, it's all too hard.

Speaker 1: 50:09

And you see that in your daily life. Where, where do you see that Daily?

Speaker 2: 50:14

at work.

Speaker 1: 50:15

Where people? Where the driver is broken.

Speaker 2: 50:17

The driver, yeah, at work. Now that I've been taught the tools to, you know, I'm no know it all, but now that I've actually taught the signs to look for, it's huge, it's everywhere.

Speaker 1: 50:29

All right. So, for the audience that are listening, what is your top three takeaways if someone is feeling broken down, whether that's in mind, body, spirit? What would be your top three go-tos for someone that is feeling stuck and broken?

Speaker 2: 50:49

The first one is to I'm not a great, I don't like all, and if you've listened to any of my other podcasts, you'll hear me bang on about it, are you okay? Well, what date was that? You know what about? Every day, you know you ask the question hey mate, what's going on? And if they don't know what to say and I've come up with this one myself now, what, mate? Just keep asking questions and then sit there in silence and listen, see what they've got to say, because too many people listen with the intent of um replying, not with the um, not not to understand. It's actually just sitting there and listening to people. Again, it's like a car. I've got a rattle in the back end. You take the car for a drive and you listen to the car. So listen to the person.

Speaker 2: 51:30

Listen to what they've got to say.

Speaker 1: 51:31

Okay, so the first thing would be just to listen.

Speaker 2: 51:34

Be someone to listen.

Speaker 1: 51:36

In silence, absolutely.

Speaker 2: 51:36

To listen in silence.

Speaker 1: 51:38

Yep, and then what other strategies have you found that really help people to, you know? Put some more fuel in their car, put some more fuel in themselves.

Speaker 2: 51:49

Ask questions, don't give answers. Ask questions, everyone's entitled to an opinion, but when someone's trying to talk and someone's basically pouring their life, they don't want answers. What are my answers? You know my answers are mine. Just ask questions, question more so that they can start questioning themselves, because the only person that can fix them is them. So there's no point in offering an answer, because quite often that answer, you know, I might not have heard the story quite correctly and I'm off on a different tangent. So, yeah, ask more questions.

Speaker 1: 52:22

Okay. So we're listening in silence with the intent of understanding the person, what they're saying, and we're asking lots of questions. And what else would you? What else do you do? What else do you do when you've got that? I've heard many stories of Steve having men turn up at his front counter with a broken down car and a broken down heart, for example. So Steve's encountered this quite a few times. What else? What would be your go-to next?

Speaker 2: 52:55

Well, what I've learned, mate? Bloody old pen and paper, start writing shit down, get it out of your head. Get the story written down, because whilst that story is circling in your head, mate, it's still there. You've got to be able to break the story down. See it for what it is. Go back to my mother hated her. She was drunk. Hang on a minute. All these years later she was actually really misunderstood and she had no direction of her own. So you actually see the story for what it is. So once you've written it down, you can actually read it. You can written it down, you can actually read it, you can slow it down.

Speaker 2: 53:24

You can breathe through it. Then you give it some distance. With distance comes clarity. Once that story is written down, you can then put it away. You don't have to look at that story anymore. It's now not running around in your head.

Speaker 1: 53:39

So those are my three things. Well, that's fantastic. So, in wrapping up, because I told, gave Steve very strict instructions that I like my podcast to be under an hour and we're at 53 minutes, so go us celebrate the wind wow and I do have to apologize. If you've heard a little bit of barking and growling, it's because the other. We have six children, but we also have another three and they're called dogs and they've decided that today's a great day to bark and growl they're wonderful, they're wonderful door alarms, they really are um, and one thing that you're really well known for is your one-liners.

Speaker 1: 54:18

Okay so, um, I know that we were, when we were on our level one and two uh course, with mark england would wait, I think, with baited hooks on what was going to come out of Steve's mouth next. So one thing that one really strong foundation Steve and I have in our relationship, being married for 21 years is the fact that we get to laugh together a lot. Okay, so laugh at the devil and he'll run away. Steve's very good at making me laugh, okay, so if you can leave the audience with one of your favourite one-liners, what would that be? Can you think of any, you know?

Speaker 2: 55:02

great ones. Do we need Mike involved, or am I all on my own here?

Speaker 1: 55:08

Mike. Well, he'll probably delete a lot of what I'm about to say, that's okay, mike is not only the producer of this show, but one of our very good friends.

Speaker 2: 55:16

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 55:17

And he has the power to delete some expletives, so let's go for it.

Speaker 2: 55:23

So my advice to men to stay married for a long, long time and be with their best mate and actually, you know, have a journey that works is if you keep them laughing, their undies fall off eventually.

Speaker 1: 55:35

Fantastic, let me see. No, my undies are still on. It's all good. It's all good, everyone Not enough laughing, no.

Speaker 2: 55:41

But to finish on a reasonably you know upright note that Mike doesn't have to delete anything. We see it constantly in today's society parents living their life through their children. It's a. It's so wrong, like how about you live your life with your children because I'm gonna give them what I didn't have growing up? Why don't you give them what you've got while they're growing up? Give them you. They don't want technology, they want you know. They want mum, they want dad. In today's broken society. They want to be accepted by their parents because, believe it or not, you know that age old saying I created you, I can take you out as well. Just be with them, be with your children, be a part of their life.

Speaker 1: 56:25

So spend time. What they want is your time. They want to be seen by you.

Speaker 2: 56:29

They want to be heard by you and they want your time. Yeah, so after school they go in their room and they're on their technology. They don't come out of the kitchen and see me Go into their bedrooms. Hey mate, what are you doing? Sit with them.

Speaker 1: 56:41

And employ some of the strategies that you used before with your children. Ask the questions.

Speaker 2: 56:46

Yeah, questions.

Speaker 1: 56:48

Sit in their room in silence if you need to, just because I think a lot of children feel disconnected from their parents. So if you go into their space you can create a physical connection and even if you're just sitting in their room in silence, right, and then you can start asking some questions.

Speaker 2: 57:06

Ask questions, don't give answers because, remember, you know, I didn't have that when I was a kid. No shit, sherlock. We grew up in the 70s and 80s. You know, oh, bloody phones. You know we got it. You know that we, we have to learn to adapt. We have to learn to change.

Speaker 2: 57:21

Well, we get to learn to adapt and change we get to change, because if we don't change exactly, your hair can drop, because it's. You know. Change is everything you know. If you want another one-liner, there's nothing more certain in this life than change.

Speaker 1: 57:35

Well, that's a great one to finish off on and thank you so much for being part of, for being my very first guest. Can that just go down on record please? Very first official guest. Sorry, ruby Ruby, you were just a minor guest. This is a major guest and no doubt we'll have some follow-ups coming up soon.

Speaker 2: 57:55

Oh man, I've got that much to talk about. You haven't seen the back of me yet, buddy.

Speaker 1: 58:00

For those of you that can't really see you can't see the video here, but we have notes and I'm very, very proud of you, steve. You stuck to the notes, we stuck to the time and we're just, we're not high-fiving. Steve hates that stuff.

Speaker 2: 58:15

My bad.

Speaker 1: 58:16

Hear that. So that's it. That's it Over and out.

Speaker 2: 58:21

Good luck with it, Mike.

Speaker 1: 58:23

You have a bloody good journey on this one. Thanks for listening Yep and looking forward to some more episodes with my best mate here, me cobber.

Speaker 2: 58:32

Yeah, old mate.

Speaker 1: 58:33

See you later, guys. See you, see you, see you, see you.