Coach and Miss Misty stress the importance of managing your speed on public roads and being a safe and responsible driver.
Coach and Miss Misty stress the importance of managing your speed on public roads and being a safe and responsible driver.
Welcome everybody to another episode of learn to drive better. Episode number six today. And we are going to be talking about speed management, a new topic for us. We've talked about a bunch of things when it comes to safe driving, but today we wanted to cover speed management before we get into that, We want to thank Jake Stutzman and this Jake Stutzman's band for our intro music. and what do you want to talk about today? Let's talk about Saldana. Things are really changing around here. Lots more people. Yes. Yeah. So we're in a Memorial Day weekend. And, we're starting to see an increase of traffic into our community. Yes. Yeah. I think I started noticing probably about three or four weeks ago. Usually around Mother's Day, they come down to open their cabins and things like that. The snowbirders return. Yeah. I think the snowbirds return, you know, in case you're not familiar with that term. In Alaska, we have a term called snowbirds, meaning that we have a population of people that live in Alaska. in the summertime, when it's, warmer weather and when things turn cold, they relocate to a second home in the lower 48. I know my parents do that. they go to Arizona, for the winters. we're starting to work towards that by going to, Oklahoma. And in the winter times, not full time, but at least part time working on getting a home and everything. So I think about three, four weeks ago, I saw the population like traffic was getting a little bit more congested in town. Not that traffic is congested in Saldana with 3000 people, but this weekend it was, I mean, we have Memorial day starting on Thursday. the Anchorage School District let out their, students for the summer. so the staff started wrapping up and I think, they're all starting to flood down to the peninsula. for those that are not aware of the Alaska area, the Kenai Peninsula is considered Alaska's playground. we have a lot of fishing down here. Beautiful sites, beautiful sites, too. Yeah, very beautiful part of Alaska. Very, uh, sparsely, populated. Not a lot of, not a lot of people down here. A lot of campgrounds. A lot of places you can go and just get away from things. Whether you're camping by a lake, camping by a river or a creek, or just camping, you know, in In general. Yeah. Or if you're just looking to get away from everything and, you know, just find a campground kind of in the middle of nowhere. I think we provide all those things here on the peninsula. if you want to go, fishing. This is where to go. You can go fishing in a lake for trout and, other species. you can go fishing in the rivers for steelhead and trout and dollies and some salmon are starting to come through. Uh, the Kings are opening up this weekend, a little further south, like in deep Cretan and no chick area. you can go offshore. fish for halibut, rockfish, all sorts of things, yellow eyes, a lot of fishing down here. so it draws a lot of people in, especially this time of year, because everybody's been kind of cooped up, you know, since September, October, October. Yeah, but things in September, school starts, you know, people start, things start slowing down, and And you start kind of, you know, taking care of the yard and everything for winter and preparing yourselves for, for the wintertime. and then, You know, April things warm up, May, starting to cut the grass and starting to do summertime projects. Home Depot's getting full of people buying flower baskets and getting their yards ready and everything. So, with that increase of traffic here in Saldana, we're seeing a lot of, really crazy driving. We live in a, in kind of a little country town. I mean, we're out in the country. We only have a few stoplights between, Kenai and Seldatna, the two, cities that are, or not even cities were towns, two towns that are, closely, located next to each other between the two towns. We probably have 10 stoplights total. Maybe. Yeah. So, it's just, you know, it's built. for, you know, a population of 3 to 10, 000 people. So when you get You know, 20, 000 extra people a weekend. It really puts a strain on driving down, down here on the peninsula. So we're definitely seeing traffic. We're definitely starting to see, congestion. Yes. We're starting to see impatient drivers. very impatient. Yes. And I think the impatientness comes from, you know, living in the city where things are a little bit more faster paced. in Saldana, there are a lot of, I'm sorry, in Anchorage, there are a lot of roads in Anchorage that have speed limits of 55, 60, 65 miles an hour going through Anchorage. Down here, our fastest speed limit in town 35 miles an hour, 45 on the outskirts of town and 55 on our highways. So the speed limit is definitely much slower. The other day we were coming in Saturday morning and the speed limit drops from 55 to 35 as soon as you get into town. And I got passed by somebody that was driving 55 all the way through town. Yes. definitely to me, not a local. Yes, to me, that's, you know, someone that's either impatient or they're totally not aware of their, environment, and what the speeds are, which kind of ties us into our subject of today, which is speed management. Before we get to that, we want to recognize a new business in town was in Saldana, a good friend of ours named Kimber. has just recently, fulfilled her dream of opening up her own business. And she, had just had a grand opening this week and we want to make sure that we give her a little plug. So this is for Kimber and the sportsman's. Sportsman's hair house, which is located right next to the PETA pit, the PETA pit in town. So if you guys know where the PETA pit is, it's a little off a little frontage road, right off of, uh, the Keene iceberg. They are located in that same complex right there. Again, it's the sportsman's. And their telephone number is 907 260 4897. So give Kimber a call. We are, we have been pretty short with barbers and hairstylists in town. We've had a few clothes lately and I know we used to have one in the mall here for over 30 years and those two gentlemen have just shut that business down. So a lot of people are looking for a new place to, to get a regular haircut. It's always nice to have that person that, knows you and what you want. So. Give Kimber a call. And set an appointment and go get your hair cut. All right. So, good luck to you Kimber and your, and your business venture. We were all rooting for you, hoping that you do well. so speed management. What we want to talk about is the importance of speed management. How do I put this? Speed management has a lot to do with being able to get your vehicle stopped in an appropriate amount of time. Okay, so I think you could easily call it breaking management, right? Yeah. Because, managing your speed has a lot to do with your environment. Road conditions. Road conditions. Yeah. and not just bad weather. like here locally, we're seeing an increase of congestion. So even though the speed limit right outside of, our area right here in the peninsula center mall, when you pull out onto the sterling highway, the speed limit is 35 miles an hour. But I know there's days that I can only drive 20, 25 miles an hour, but yet people force that issue. Right? And when you're looking at that speed limit sign and it says 35 and you feel compelled that you have to go 35, now you're riding on top of other people. Yes. You're part of the problem. You're part of the problem. Yes. And if we're riding on top of other people, we regard that as Tailgating. Tailgating, right? And tailgating causes a lot of issues. Yes. Multiple issues. It puts Both drivers at risk for a collision. It puts the rear driver at risk because they no longer have time to react to a situation in the roadway. Nope. The person up front can't control. The space management behind them, they can't control that. They can do things in front of them to help prevent them from having to slam on their brakes in an emergency situation, but there's no guarantee. So that, that creates a lot of issues, and to me, it creates that. accident or that incident or that collision on the road that's totally preventable. Yeah. Yeah. It's really not needed. You just need to be patient. You'll get there, by riding somebody and trying to compel them to move out of your way or get off the roadway so that you can just, burn rubber through town. it's just absolutely ridiculous. And I'll go back to what you always say. Driving is what? Driving is an act of patience. It really is. It is. Yes. And you're not going to get there any faster by riding on top of somebody and you're going to put your vehicle at risk. A lot of people have a lot of money invested. your vehicle is a family invested investment sometimes, right? And you're putting your investment at risk as well as other people. And it's just not necessary. No. so, yeah. And, we always say that we have to be able to stop within our field of vision. That means as far as I can see forward, I need to be able to spot a hazard and be able to shut the vehicle down before I can see it. And if we're on top of another vehicle, you have now reduced your visual search ability because you're so close to that vehicle in front, you're not able to manage the roadway out ahead of you. Or in front of that vehicle. No, you can't see it. Yeah, you can't see it. So it's really critical that we take into consideration a lot of different factors when we're driving down the road and we're managing our speed. Okay. We also have conditions like, nighttime driving and daytime driving. Obviously at night, our field division is not as good. So a reduction of speed is necessary. Even if the speed limit says that lawfully we can go faster, if. Your vision doesn't dictate that 55 or 35 is safe, then driving slower and managing your field of vision is a responsible thing to do. Yes. Okay, so, lighting conditions are going to do that for you. We've had lighting conditions in Alaska where the sun is in your eyes, and I have to slow down because even though it's daylight, you can't see, yeah, I cannot manage the space in front of me. I cannot see what's happening in front of me effectively to be able to stop my vehicle. So 35 and a 55. in the middle of the summer might be what's needed to make sure that I'm safe with my vehicle. In that situation, we have weather conditions all the time. Yeah. In Alaska, we have, So we have kind of a combination. It could be snowing really hard, right? Which makes visibility really low because it is affecting how much snow is hitting your windshield. Your wipers may not be able to keep up with that effect or you have icing issues. Yes. Right. We have ice building up on your wipers and even though your wipers are able to go as fast as they can, they're smearing water and we just, we can't see, we don't know what's happening in front. But yet we don't slow down as a result. that combination might be the snowfall, the road condition, which is becoming slick and slushy, which is causing the vehicle to get pulled and sliding around, and nighttime. So sometimes we have a combination of things going on. In heavy traffic where everybody's driving really slow trying to get into town. So we have multiple issues going on. And it's not unnormal to drive into town on a bad day, early in the morning, driving 40 miles an hour in a 55 mile an hour zone, and just being patient. Yep, just taking it easy. Going, you know what, I woke up early for this. I'm gonna, yeah, I woke up, I knew it was going to happen. I managed my personal time to make sure I'm still going to arrive to time on work. I arrived to work on time. I kind of screwed that up a little bit, didn't I? I'm going to arrive on time to work. I am going to Drive safely. And if someone wants to go around because they're impatient, I'm going to allow that and I'm not going to allow it to interfere or, compel me to drive differently. I know what safe is for me. Yes. And we also have a lot of young drivers out there who have not been exposed to those conditions. We do have some, yes. Right. A lot of drivers that we see coming in are, they're new drivers. So their parents are kind of controlling. When they drive when they drive the road conditions. Yes, right. So we don't we see a young drivers that don't have a lot of experience driving in darkness. Inclement weather conditions. Yes. Yes. Yeah, most, most kids aren't going to say, Hey, mom, can I drive today? And it's a blizzard. Yeah, it's a, you know, it's a blizzard situation. You know, visibility is minimal. The road conditions are bad, you know, they're icy and, and I think a combination, they can be slick, but when you start building a bunch of snow. The snow can affect how the wheels are getting pulled, right? And that vehicle can be hard to control and maintain in the road. Plus, can you see the lines on the road? No. Right. So, I mean, like I said, that vehicle is family investment, right? So most, most newly new drivers, new students of ours are driving the family car. That family car is an important. transportation tool to get to work and buy groceries and make a living and to get the entire family to school and to work and to do other things. So having a brand new inexperienced driver, behind the wheel is probably not the smartest thing to do. And parents are totally within a right to say, Hey, today's not a good day to drive. Right. Right. But once you obtain that license from us, right now, You are going to, you're going to be driving in those situations. You're going to wake up and you need to get to school or to get to work yourself. And now you have to deal with that situation. So always take the side of caution, always be patient when you're driving. Yes. Right. And just, just, you know, take your time. Don't get in a hurry. Don't force yourself into a situation that you feel uncomfortable with. Reduce your speed. Don't worry what other people think complete situation of you just need to do you Right. Yes. It's a good way of putting it. Yes. Sometimes we worry about what other people think or other people are going to say or other people are going to react to. You don't worry about that. You drive that vehicle the way you need to. Yes. Driving is totally that situation. Right. We were just driving yesterday down the road on the highway and we noticed a vehicle in front of us that as drivers were approaching, they would move over to the right side. They would slow down for turns a little bit. And in my mind, I looked at that and I said, well, you know, it's probably an inexperienced driver, someone that's not real, confident, Yeah. In their abilities, familiar with the vehicle, right? And, they were taking it easy and I backed off. I, you know, Misty noticed I was driving a little bit slower than normal, but I was trying to give them the space because you know, that unpredictability, that inexperience may cause them to do something unexpected and I don't want to be tangled up in that mess. So I gave them a little more space, right? And I managed my speed in that situation, even though the speed limit is 55. Okay. I slowed down, I was driving 51, 52 miles an hour at times, and for me, I could have made some decisions like going around them. But at that point, I wasn't in a hurry. I had managed our time well and where we were going, we were going to get there in plenty of time and we, there was no need for it. There was no need to add risk into the situation. So we just managed our speed at that point. It took us a little longer, but we got there. No, but you exercised your patience. We did. We did. Yep. Driving is an act of patience. See, I even taught you something. There you go. So at this point, in our podcast, we're doing a couple of things new. You notice that at the beginning we gave, the sportsman's hair house a, little, little plug there as one of our local. Businesses. So we're going to do the same right now. We're going to take a short break and talk about, I wear express, which is a business located here in the peninsula center mall, right across from where we're located here, in Saldana. the establishments run by Marty Hanson, who's a good friend of ours. You know, again, a lot of these businesses were, you know, We're all kind of tied in together. Their success is our success. Our success is their success. So Marty's been around for a long time. they have a new doctor that they just got within the last year, moved down from Anchorage. So he has a new doctor that's working over there. They're very pleased, having them over here. so if you go into eyewear express, they can take care of your eye doctor's appointment, and, to get your prescription, with all the top equipment, all the, you know, bells and whistles that any other would have, you know, here in the state. And after you're done with the doctor, you can get your prescription filled with either contacts or. Glasses. Glasses, and Marty has a wide range of eyewear over there, and they can process everything in house, meaning they can cut the lenses, prepare the frames, and have everything ready for you in a very short period of time. So, if you are interested, we're going to give you a telephone number. It is 907 260 9199 and they are Tuesday through Saturday. Tuesday through Saturdays? Yes. Yup. And usually 10 to 6? I want to say yes, 10 to 6 and then on Saturday it's like 10 to 2. Right. Yes. So, if you need, you know, everybody needs to see and it's very important to the driving situation to be able to see correctly. So make sure you get over there. 90 percent of what we do is vision. So make sure that you get over there and get your eyes checked out. Go see the doctor and get your prescription filled and get your eyewear taken care of. Yes. Thank you. I wear express and Marty Hanson. Now back to, speed management. You're going to kind of wrap things up here with speed management. Really? I think speed management. Has everything to do with controlling your emotions when you're on the roadway and being able to, not be affected by other motorists. I think you need to recognize when there's hazards and being able to react to those hazards appropriately. With your speed management or braking management, actually, right? And I think you need to take your ego out of the equation as well Right, you you don't need to be compelled to do things that you don't feel that you're experienced to do, right? Yes, I tell my students all the time you are in control of this vehicle. So you can't let other people dictate How you're gonna drive There you go. So, also managing your space on grades going uphill and downhill. Oh, this got me a few years ago. Yeah. And, you know, we've been to a lot of communities in the lower 48 where there's not much, with grade, in the Midwest, the roads are pretty flat. You don't have too many severe hills or severe grades. Not a lot of incline. No. So here in Alaska, it's quite the opposite of a lot of our roads, not only are, have a lot of curves in them, because of the terrain, it dictates that we don't have very long stretches of highway that are in a straight line that are completely flat. We have a lot of, curves, hills. You know, in our situation, so recognizing that we may need to manage our speed a little bit as we approach a hill, whether it's going up a hill or going down. So as we're going up a hill, we all know that the speed of our vehicle is going to slow down, decrease, right? They're going to slow down. So if you're following other people, recognizing that their vehicle speed is going to naturally start to slow down a little bit, right? Yes. So we don't need to start speeding up to get ready to go up a hill. In fact, a couple of years ago, not to throw Misty under the bus or anything, but she had a situation where she was going up a hill and as the vehicle downshifted, it was an automatic as the vehicle downshifted to give her more power as it was losing RPMs, the vehicle broke traction on her. and that landed up putting the vehicle into a spin and she landed up losing control, went over in the ditch, didn't do much damage to the vehicle. She wasn't going really fast. It was a slick day out anyways, but it just caught her off guard that going up that Hill and applying more acceleration, more throttle, it caused that vehicle to want to downshift in and try to pick up speed in a situation where it was really slick. And she learned from that. She. She understood what, you know, happened and realized that, hey, This is a situation that I got to be more aware of. So every time now when we approach, going up hills, she's very aware of that vehicle downshifting and the possibility of losing traction. So, give other people space in front of you while you're managing your speed and their speed. Cause you got to manage them too, right? Yes. Going on an incline and then we have a decline, we have hills. which we're going to have to go down, right? And managing our speed on those hills. Again, if the speed limit's 55, that doesn't mean we're going to crest the hill at 55 because if it's a pretty severe grade, we're going to be violating the speed limit very quickly. Yes. We're going to find ourselves well above the speed limit in a very short period of time. So we've got to manage that ahead of time, not now. At that time, right? So maybe cresting the hill at 45, knowing that the vehicle naturally will gain speed as we go down the hill. Yes. As we go down. And if there's conditions like driving at night or on bad, bad roads. Mm-Hmm. right? There's weather conditions 55 night even be safe to go down that hill, we may have to go down that hill at 45. So we may have to crest it at, you know. 35 37 to make sure that we can manage 45 going down that hill if the conditions dictate with slick road conditions. there's a lot to managing your speed. And like I said, I really think it has a lot to do. With active patients being patient out there while you're driving. The last thing that I think we should talk about is probably the most common thing we see where people mismanage their speed and that is out on the highway. Especially here in Alaska, we have a lot of two lane highways, meaning we have one lane going one way, one lane going the other. We don't have a meridian between the roads. We have a yellow line, and as we know, solid yellow lines mean No passing. And dashed yellow lines mean Passing on this side that the dash is on. Right. Now, it's legal. But sometimes, is it necessary and are we, doing this procedure legally, right? Right. So, a lot of people, especially young students that we get in class, I talk to them about this, and of course a lot of young people learn a lot of their driving skills by watching who they're driving with on a regular basis, their mom and dad. Right. Way to call out the mom and dads there. Hey, that, well, that's where they're learning. So a lot of, you mom and dads that are listening, just remember this, your kids are watching everything you're doing and you're setting an example to them, whether it's a good example or a bad example. So here's an example of a lot of parents out there that are violating the law and they're teaching their young, their youngins the same thing. Impressionable young drivers coming up. And we see, I see it in class. I ask these simple questions. We're out on the highway and we have a vehicle that's in front of us that's not driving at highway speeds. And I ask them, what's the first thing we're going to do? And they say, pass them. And I go, But why? Why are we passing them? They're driving 50 into 55. Is that inappropriate? And they're like, well, I don't understand the question. I'm like, well, if it's snowing out or it's slick out, just because you think you can drive faster, is it really necessary to pass this person? Five miles an hour is not going to make you much later Getting where you're going than what you already are. True. Yes. Should have left earlier. And most people, most people live within 20 minutes of where they work. That is a statistic that's out there worldwide that most people will locate themselves centrally with their work location and be within 20 minutes of work. Most people don't commute long distances. Some do, but most don't. So if you're managing your time, And you have a vehicle that's traveling just a little bit slower. Why are we being impatient to go around them? There might be a reason why that vehicle is not traveling at highway speeds. So that's the first thing that we have to teach them is that act of patience. Yes. Second is another question that I ask. If we're going to make a pass on the highway, how much faster or the speed limit Can we go? And it's very rare that I have students in class that will look me right in the eye and say, you cannot violate the speed limit. Most of them will say five to 10 miles an hour. Oh, over the speed limit, five to 10 Wow. Is legal. Oh, and I asked them, is this written in the DMV handbook? Is this law? Where are you getting this information? And of course, they're getting it from watching. Their parents. Exactly. They're in a vehicle and that's how they learn how nobody has a book on what red, yellow and green means, right? Nobody has to read a book on that. They understand because they sit in the back seat for years and years and years and they watch their parents navigate these intersections with. These lights. Well, they're watching you when you're making passes on the highway. And they're seeing that you're going 70 in a 55 to make these passes. And generally you're having to go at these speeds because the person you're passing is already going the speed limit. Okay. So, there's a couple of things that we need to consider when it comes to speed management when we're on highways. First is making a pass necessary because anytime we make a pass, it's going to put us at risk. It's going to put that driver that you're driving at risk and it's putting other traffic, especially in the oncoming lane at risk. Is any of this necessary at all? Just so you can get where you're going a few minutes faster. And I'm literally talking two to five minutes faster here. Maybe, yes. Okay. So, again, falling back to driving is a Act of patience. Why do we need to put ourselves at risk? Okay. So, the rule that we teach in class is this, and I want everybody to think about this. If you are going to make a pass, outside of making sure it's legal, we have a dash line. Okay. Bye. Outside of our visual search, knowing that it is safe to do it because there is not traffic approaching. Right. That we should only be passing the vehicle if they're traveling at five miles an hour or more. Below the speed limit. Below the speed limit. Which allows me to travel at the speed limit. Yes. To make this pass safely. Yes. Okay. If you're able to do that, if we're able to do 55 in a 55 because we're passing somebody that's doing 40, 47, 48. Not only can I do it in a place where it's absolutely safe, road conditions dictate that when I'm not putting it's very low risk and my visual search says there's nobody else that's going to be affected by this pass. Those should be the optimal conditions to do these things. But yet we drive home in the summers five days a week. And I would say for these five days a week, we're getting past. when there is, it puts us at a very high risk. People are passing and we see them pass multiple vehicles, pushing the issue, driving 75 80 miles an hour in a 55 mile an hour zone. They're starting to make passes and no passing zones. They're very impatient. All for what you're supposed to be, especially down here. These are the people that are coming down here to be on vacation, to be on holiday, to be relaxing, but yet they come down here and they're driving in a way that puts people at risk. It puts tension in the air. And I don't get that. I really don't get that this weekend alone. We've had two head on collisions in the last two days. We had one yesterday morning on the sterling highway. just passed along mirror lake where we had a head on collision. And then we had one on K beach road saturday at some point. So, And we haven't even seen our worst driving conditions. This is just beginning our tourism season down here on the peninsula. So with that in mind, these things don't happen by accident. Okay. There is. somebody that's increasing risk on the roadway and it is affecting not just them, but other people. So sometimes I always say driving really is about controlling two things. One, are you doing everything you need to do to put risk as low as possible? But beyond that, are you paying attention to other motorists on the road that could possibly put you at risk? And how are you managing them? Okay? So, I think that pretty much covers speed management for us. We talked to, you know, we talked about it at depth and we brought up some compelling situations, but really, we need to slow down. We need to take our time. We need to, manage our lives better. Wake up in enough time to where you can leave. So I always tell, our employees that you should shoot for being 10 minutes early. That way, if there's a, you know, a situation on the roadway that we can't control, like there's a collision or there's a moose out on the road or, a weather condition or even construction, right? Construction's a big one that now I can still manage my speed, right? Because I was shooting for 10 minutes early. And because of this, I'm still three or four minutes early, right? I'm not showing up late, right? And we're not walking in the door with a bunch of excuses about why I'm not here on time. Right. And I'm not putting other people at risk because I'm trying to manage my time by not managing my speed on the roadway. Okay. Yes. So this all kind of works hand in hand on kind of, controlling your personal life a little better. And Like I said, it's not just you, we got other people that are in your vehicle that are affected by it. And we have other motorists out there that are affected by it. So just think about those things. Yes. before we close out today. We wanted to recognize one more business, that we want to give a plug to on our podcast here. A Tasty Business. Yes. A tasty business. I like that. Tasty. Yes, it is. Tasty. Is tasty. Yes. So right here in the Peninsula Center Mall, alongside of Eyewear Express in ourself, we have a restaurant called Ginger's Restaurant. Yes. And it's family cuisine. You know, American cuisine, family restaurant, probably known best for their breakfasts and their lunches. Yes. but they do have dinners as well. Are located right here in the Peninsula Center Mall, right between us and Eyewear Express down at that end of the mall. And they are open, uh, Tuesday through Sunday, Tuesday through Sunday. So it looks like they're only closed on Monday. And do we have hours of operation for them? Okay. 9 to 5, Tuesday through Saturday, and then Sunday 9 to 3. Okay. Yes. And we have a telephone number. We do. It's 907 260 8003. And they do have takeout menus. Yep. They do have takeout. They do have, A delivery service. A delivery service. Yes. And of course you can go in and, eat. It's a very nice family restaurant to eat in. Very kind of quiet atmosphere in there. You're welcome. good people, good food. So I want to make sure that, you guys, if you're looking for somewhere to eat and you haven't taken, the time to go to Ginger's lately, please pop in and give them a try and I'm sure that you will not be disappointed. We're not. We're not. Yes. All right. So, in closing, we want to make sure that we're giving our listeners the opportunity to, give us some feedback. Yes. And thank you guys for the ones that have been providing feedback. We really appreciate it. We do and a couple of things that have been brought up and we're looking at doing a podcast here in the near future to accommodate some of the great input that we're getting. Good ideas. Yes. Good ideas. So, if they need to get ahold of us, what's the best way to get ahold of us? It is email. It is ada. mailbag at gmail. com. There you go. So one more time. ADA. mailbag at gmail. com. So, like I said, if you have any input, if you have any comments, if you have any recommendations on future podcasts, please, let us know. Give us your input on there at that email address. And, One last thing before we leave, I really just want to, express and stress to our listeners that we really appreciate that you're taking the time to listen to these podcasts, to learn as a driver, to get better, which is, the whole purpose of the podcast, which is why it's called learn to drive better, learn to drive better, right? and putting your ego into it. To the side, and to be willing to listen to new techniques and new ideas and, learning to drive as an active patient's patience. But more importantly than you listening is that I really want to stress that you find somebody that you truly care about, that, that means a lot to you and have them listen as well. Yes. Okay. Because there are a lot of people in America that lose their lives on the roadway and we really need to reach out to as many people as we can. even if there's different techniques out there that people want to communicate to us and they want us to try to teach other people, we're going to have our egos in check too. We're not, the absolute, authority on this. We're learning ourselves every day, new, every day, new, driving techniques, mentalities, right? Because we're in a vehicle at least twice a day. Most of us on the average and we want, we just want to make sure people are safe out there. And make sure that we get from point A to point B and not only making sure that they get there safely, but the motoring public that they're sharing the road way with does as well. Yes. So, this wraps up like I said, we really appreciate you guys listening to us. We really appreciate, your input and please, get other people involved in this. Get other listeners, to plug into this. We're going to be putting out some new material here in June, and I'm sure driving, in our community is going to give us a lot of ideas on things that we need to improve on all of us as drivers. So this is coach Chris and this is Miss Misty and we're signing off. We are. Bye. Bye.