one Yo, yo. What's good, fellas, we are back. We are back. Sunday brunch Sunday brunch today Got a lot to unpack, a lot to unpack. We sat back, we waited patiently till all this thing kind of come to fruition, and we're still getting into the creases of everything. So we're here now, fellas, how y'all doing on this Sunday afternoon. So we're here now, fellas, how y'all doing on this Sunday afternoon, that's brunch on Sunday.
Speaker 2:Brunch on Sunday, yeah, feels good. Yes, sir, here's how I want to start things off. I just want to let everybody know that all this weekend has proven is that I was right about Kendrick all along, and all of y'all were all wrong. For the last two, three, four years, I've been getting blasted for my Kendrick takes because I've been saying that his music has been trash, that that album isn't it and that I don't know what happened to him, but that he needed to get his shit together. For everybody thinks that I hate him. That's not true, since it's Sunday. Long, long time ago, when I was trapped in another podcast in the wilderness, kind of like Moses and the people, when I was lost in the wilderness on another podcast yeah, fuck all that. When I was lost in the wilderness before I found the hip hop talks land of milk and honey, I wrote an article about Kendrick Lamar after damn, stating, yeah, that's right, I said it.
Speaker 1:We didn't talk about this.
Speaker 2:I wrote an article after damn stating that we needed to give Kendrick top 10 all-time consideration if he proceeded on the trajectory that he was on after damn. Now I know I wrote that article when I was in the wilderness. Now, now that I'm in the land of milk and honey with hip hop talks, what I'm here to say is is that the last three songs that you've heard from this man is better than anything that he's done since Damn, which was exactly my problem, because I knew that he was more than capable of it. That's what I'm talking about. He got wrapped too much up in his own hype and, quite frankly, somebody that has anxiety and is bipolar. I don't need his fucking album making me depressed. I need him to make some shit that makes me want to crip crip walk while I wait for my double double with cheese outside of in and out burger.
Speaker 2:That's what these last three records have been and that's what I've been saying about him. Well, he's not operating the way that he was operating until now, and so what people really need to understand, no matter how you feel about Drake? Drake bought that backup out of him when that shit had died inside of him, because this sounds nothing like that Mr Morale shit, now does it. Because this sounds nothing like that Mr Morale shit, now does it. This last record he is on his West Compton, west Coast, la, gangster boogie shit and that's all I've been saying is like where's that guy? Right, right, right, all right.
Speaker 1:So now that we're in the land of milk and honey, guys go ahead.
Speaker 2:We didn't talk about that off screen, you know. You know the Lord made Moses' ass watch the land of milk and honey while he sent his brother Aaron in there. He's like, hold on, you can pause, Like you're not going there. You're going to stay right here, Going to let all the other homies in Proceed.
Speaker 3:Happy Sunday to everybody, yeah, so happy Cinco de Mayo to everyone.
Speaker 2:Is it?
Speaker 3:Cinco de Mayo too. Oh, we about to have a gangster party and yesterday was May the 4th. So you know, happy, belated May the 4th To all my Star Wars people these two white guys on the left and right of me, they don't get that reference, but you know, May the 4th we had some Star Wars at hand, Like the old Nas song Star Wars. That's what we got going on right now With Kendrick and Drake.
Speaker 2:So AG the going on right now with kendrick and drake so ag. The only star that I know from may 4th is my grandfather, because that was his birthday. He would have been 95 yesterday had he lived well, god rest your grandfather's soul.
Speaker 3:You know I'm saying, but yeah, yesterday was uh star wars for real so I didn't know that I don't watch star wars.
Speaker 1:I'm a gangster. I don't watch stuff like that. I watch real stuff like belly into deep stuff like that. Gangsters don't watch stuff like that. I watch real stuff like Belly Into Deep, stuff, like that.
Speaker 2:Gangsters don't dance with Boogie AG.
Speaker 3:Actually, sean is, like Drake said about K-Dot, he a fake black activist. He came on the last show with the fake Malcolm X glasses, but we won't do that right now.
Speaker 1:We're not here for that. But yeah, it's a dope weekend.
Speaker 3:We're not here for that we're not here for that. But yeah, you know what I'm saying. It's a dope weekend for hip hop, potentially what I think is one of the greatest moments of all time, just for the buzz that it created and shout out to everybody in podcast world because we got a you know what I'm saying little stimulus package from Drake and Kendrick Lamar. So you know what I'm saying. Little stimulus package from Drake and Kendrick Lamar. So you know, gives us something to talk about on a weekend, on a good Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 1:No doubt.
Speaker 3:No doubt, no doubt. I'm excited.
Speaker 1:I'm excited. I think we all. We talked about this on Friday after the show, like we knew some stuff was going to drop. We just didn't know when. And it's always when you get information like this you have an option Either you jump out there and be one of the first to report or you sit back and kind of see how things play out. And I know we contemplated on doing something on Saturday and we just didn't know if we really wanted to go that route or if we wanted to wait until today. And I'm glad we waited until today because you know we saw some good stuff out there. I think the one that stood out to me I saw snippets of it Shout out to Mace out of on that roundtable.
Speaker 1:He stood his ground, you know, especially at a time when Drake was getting manhandled out there, boss, and Mace held his ground. I was going to actually message the homie, like yo, and Mace held his ground. I was going to actually message the homie, like yo. I appreciate you still holding down that fork, because a lot of fans are going back and forth on where they stand and you have one fan base that are the Drakes, and they're going to hold tight to Drake as long as they can. And you have the Kendrick fan base that's going to hold tight to Kendrick as much as they can. And you got those that in the middle you got some that want to see Drake demise. So they're going to go along with whatever Kendrick says. Whatever he do, they're going to go along with it. And you got those who are just going to ride the wave on. However it looks, however it feels.
Speaker 1:You know we're here to separate all of that we're here to separate every single thing that we have heard over the past what 42, 48, 72 hours? So I want to make sure that we get that on press today and really parse everything out today Fast. John Nas should have got an Oscar for Belly, so let's be clear about that.
Speaker 4:That's a comment he should have got an Oscar.
Speaker 1:Bring the Oscar back to Queens.
Speaker 2:Look here my goal like you know the scene where they're, you know the start of Belly where they're walking in the club. That was me in my prime. That was me in my prime.
Speaker 1:That's me in my prime Slow motion. I had the white Abra Ritz jacket walking slow motion with the fake glasses on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I still got a white leather. I keep a white leather now because of that movie you got to.
Speaker 1:You got to you don't have that, but you got to.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, he got his Star Wars jacket. He got his Star Wars jacket. He got the May the 4th be with you jacket, like a big Ava Rex.
Speaker 3:I was sneaking the lightsaber in the club instead of the blicky Jar salute.
Speaker 1:What up Jar. Let's get with this shit, fellas. Let's get it on. Let's get it on. Pause, so cool, kick us off, man. I know you kicked us off with the milk and honey stuff and all of that, man, but let's go ahead and get into the battle, man. Let's start from the beginning. Man to get are today.
Speaker 2:I think the first thing that we need to do is we need to separate the truth from the facts, from the conjecture. So I think the first thing that we need to cover is the fact that, well, it's clear that Drake knew that there was a mole in his camp and created another mole because the cover for which one was that Euphoria, or 616? 616. The16? 616. With the Maybach gloves it's been taken down because, well, drake set Kendrick up for the okey-doke. That bottle of pills belongs to Rick Ross, so do those gloves. The receipt on there is the receipt from the jewelry store where he copped the ring that looked like Whitney's ring. So, while everybody is sitting up here acting like Kendrick is tap dancing on him, in a lot of ways he is. Well, he's not totally winning the psychological battle because he just had to put a blank cover on that because he got got, and nobody's talking about how he got got.
Speaker 2:In that regard, that means Drake actually out fought him and out moved him. That means Drake also knew that there was a mole in his camp and he actually gave a visual aid on the video To show that he knew.
Speaker 4:Right.
Speaker 3:And so a little correction. The pills did have Drake's name on them, but we all know it was to poke fun at Rick Ross. That's no coincidence with the Maybach gloves and those Zempic pills that he had just mentioned in the previous disc. So all that was planted evidence to poke fun at Rick Ross. The shorty collection was a shot at Kendrick being short. You know you had the receipt for the ring. All that was planted evidence.
Speaker 1:You know, let me get to a quick super chat fellas. Um, what is it? Kl? I hope I said that right. Kl007, kyle, kyle.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's my man double o double o yo yo, john double o is who took me through queens and took me through the bridge.
Speaker 4:That's the one you were telling me about, that's the homie yeah that's that's the one that picked me up from the airport and took me through the bridge.
Speaker 2:That's the one you were telling me about. That's the homie. Yeah, that's the one that picked me up from the airport and took me to the bridge. That's who I went to the bridge with.
Speaker 1:No doubt, Salute to the homie. Double O, double O. Appreciate you pulling it up, homie. Every battle record needs some stuff, but I'll give you three things.
Speaker 2:A feeling, a memorable line and a moment I can call in and explain. We need to put a double up on him. We got you. I can put him on speakerphone right now if you want to. He queens like you. He queens, get the money. Like you, let's get him in.
Speaker 1:Let's get him in. Let AG answer that, and then let's get him in.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think to break down a diss record what it needs to have. Those are all key elements of a disc record. But I think where I personally have Kendrick ahead slightly is on the caveat that he's doing, to quote Coop, all the things, well, at this point, all the things well, at this point, he's covering his fan base by doing the conceptual records like the meet, the grams and the the six 16, where it's like you know, entendres, super lyrical breakdowns and what have you, right? But then he's also swerving into Drake's lane and doing Drake's thing. Well, right.
Speaker 3:So Drake is supposed to be the hit guy, but Kendrick, in one of these disses, came out with some bangers. You look at even those future songs like that is still out of here. It's the most played out of anything that's dropped. You're going to hear it in every setting, right. And also, when he dropped that Not Like Us, like us, uh, last night, I mean crazy, like you know, the hyphy bay area sound. You got to take care of home first, right? So if you in a battle and you're engaging with someone else, you got to look at it from the objective standpoint that kendrick attacked this man's character from west coast, the perspective of west. God rest Pac's soul. He's not here anymore. Right, snoop is still alive and well, but Drake conceptually attacked Kendrick like yo, you're supposed to be our savior man, what you going to do, come outside.
Speaker 3:And Kendrick is outside and he's releasing hits and bangers that would otherwise, you know, be Drake's lane and, to Sean's point, that can sway the casual faith, the people in the middle that you spoke about, because you got the Kendrick stans on the side of things that you know we talked about, like you know, coop said the Cowboy fans, and then Drake has his set of stans. But let's be honest, drake, being the pop star that he is, is holding on to more casual fans. They ain't breaking down lyrics, you know, they just want to. You know, go to the clubs here a vibe, here, a bop, and then you got the guy. That's this you putting out better bops than you when you're the bop guy. So that's, in that respect, is where you know.
Speaker 3:I think kendrick is winning a little bit because he's in his own bag and he's in dra's bag too, a little bit better than Drake himself. And, let's not forget, drake is a troll with the memes and all that stuff. Kendrick with the artwork, even though this other artwork was capped because it was planted evidence on the, not like us having the embassy with all the sex offender icons on there. I mean, come on now, you know what I'm saying. He's taking on there. I mean, come on now, you know what I'm saying. He's taking it there. He's doing what Drake would do actually better at this point.
Speaker 2:Right, okay, see. But so some of the things that he's doing, drake has been knocked for in battle. And so if we this is what I mean about being fair and unbiased Well, we have to look at it through the lens that if Drake was calling Kendrick the P word, hold on that's my man 007 calling. Give me one second, hold on 007. Give me one second, I'm going to let you in. So we have to look at it from the perspective that, well, if Drake were to release a cover like that, with all the little pedophile markers on it, it'd be like oh there he go doing that corny shit again. Kendrick does it and it's thoughtful and it's the art of war and it's insightful. But here's one I want to read. It's funny, I'm going to let my man 007 on. We're getting some West Coast and some East Coast information for me, my, and some East Coast information for me.
Speaker 2:So my man, sneakerhead23 on Twitter, hit me up this morning Cali nigga Now. So this is what he said to me. He said yo, I know you were once LA adjacent during the early game area, so you were familiar with the vibes Went to snatch up some breakfast and you would swear it was a rap holiday. It's been a minute since the song hit LA like a bomb. But this shit got gang members united. Wild times indeed have a blessed one. So we started rapping. He was like yes, sir. He said I got a partner in Denver of all places. He said that shit went up in a Latino spot last night three times in a row. Shit is a banger. He said LA hasn't had a banger in a minute. So that only magnifies the impact. It's been decades since they fucking bought the entire city together. Even the essays are bumping this shit. So this is where I want to stop and say because this is where I know Cali very well oh, when the essays and the brothers get together on one accord, even if it's about a song, that changes the entire dynamics of the city.
Speaker 2:But this is what I'm talking about. This man is capable of. He is literally capable of uniting the entire gang culture and the essays and the VLs and the Crips and the Bloods through music. Guys Like he is highly capable of this and we haven't gotten that and that's been my complaint, that I'm trying to get people to understand. And so it's up in la right now. He said niggas was hopping out of their whips and crip. Walking passes granted, crap passes granted across the city on some we all in the same gang type shit. The old easy e posse cut song to help stop violence. Those are the vibes today. These are the vibes that he is capable of creating, so I don't want to hear no shit about. I can't save everybody, like nobody wants to hear that from him when you're capable of doing this. This has been my point all along. I'm gonna let my man, 007, in right. Quick Hold on 007, you there.
Speaker 4:Yes, yes, I'm here on 007.
Speaker 2:You there, yes, yes, I'm here what's up can y'all hear 007.
Speaker 4:Yes, yeah, go go ahead, speak on it. This queen's in the house. Yo, yo, gentlemen, I love what y'all are doing. Uh, salute, I'm a friend of coop and uh, I respect the show. I'll be quick with my uh comments, so I just wanted to chime in regarding this love the battle. Full disclosure. I'm a j cole guy, so it hurts my heart that it's not cole actually winning in all this, but it is what it is. We're here now.
Speaker 4:In reference to my comments regarding a beef record, there's a list of things that you need to accomplish, but I'll keep it short with with with three things you need to accomplish just for this phone call. Number one when you make a beef track, you got to establish a feeling. This last track that Kendrick just released gave me that feeling. It could be a party feeling while you talk your ish. It could be a grimy, gritty feeling like a Havoc beat. There's multiple feelings you can go for, but you got to establish a feeling. That's number one. Number two you got to have a line that everyone's going to walk away remembering.
Speaker 4:With this last track Kendrick just released. It's the A minor line.
Speaker 2:It's the strike, a chord line, yep.
Speaker 4:Why are you trolling like a female dog? I don't know if you can curse on your show. Ain't you tired trying to strike a chord? And it's probably a minor. That's a line everybody's gonna, you know, just remember. I mean, that's just like it is what it is.
Speaker 4:The third thing that you need to accomplish with the beef record is creating a moment and for. For me, when I sat down and I analyzed this last track, it came in the second verse with the second reference with Tupac, and I got to tip my hat to Kendrick because, while simultaneously taking a swing at his enemy, he also unified people, or I should say a coast. Right, because he opens the verse saying hey, you know, you think the Bay's going to allow you to disrespect Tupac. I mean, you know, if you know your history, tupac is actually from New York but yeah, when he first went out to the West Coast, he's from the Bay, so he's talking on behalf of basically a coast, so he's unifying people. But the second time he mentioned Tupac, I think he said something along the lines of I lean on you, negroes, like another line. Here it is. I lean on you, negroes, like another line of walk. Yeah, it's all eyes on me and I'm gonna send it up to Pac.
Speaker 4:At that, as soon as he said that, I said oh my gosh, that's a moment right there. He created, he caught the feeling, he caught the one-liner and he created a moment. So right now I got Kendrick up. Salute to y'all. I'm going to hang up and listen and chime into the show. Hopefully I get to meet y'all one day and take care.
Speaker 1:Salute, Appreciate you Double.
Speaker 3:O.
Speaker 1:Appreciate you bro.
Speaker 3:Yo, just piggybacking real quick off of what 007 said. Um the the line this this goes back to my point that I was making about kendrick doing drake better than drake is doing drake. Right, the a minor line is right because drake tried to recreate.
Speaker 3:Drake tried to create that moment with the day free and lingered that out. And then kendrick took that same approach with the a minor and then, you know, did it better. So if somebody's beating you at your own game, then you can't do nothing with that. And, like I said, you got to take care of home court first. In any series you got to take care of your home court. Kendrick did this one for the Bay Area. He shot. You know we all know the history of Drake and Serena. He shouted out Serena Compton, you shout out pot. You know you unite the whole coast to get to where it was looking shaky before.
Speaker 2:So and and the flow that that's that West Coast flow. That's the beginning.
Speaker 3:It is, but in the beginning he had a Tee Grizzly flow in the beginning.
Speaker 2:I feel like but he got on his West Coast Gangsters Don't Dance, we Boogie flow.
Speaker 4:You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:That's what I mean. When I listened to how he was flowing I was like, yeah, them niggas out there is loving this right now eating this up. It's a different vibration. He don't boogie like that on records anymore.
Speaker 1:That's what I've been saying. Let me get these two super chats. We got Kaivo. Akivo, the fake non thing withstand fiction. Appreciate the super chat. Tracy G said Drake won with Family Matters. The woke disses is a miss for me. I couldn't stand the yelling and screaming like a kid about things already said, literally literally nothing new. Um, then kivo came back and said uh, I mean, male, I mean, but yeah, that shit been debunked, we got it.
Speaker 2:We got it here's another thing, and this is what I mean. Okay, so it's obvious, and this is part of the conversation where we want to take this conversation.
Speaker 3:First, I feel like we need to talk about I'm going to address that one super chat for a second. First, like the whole stan fiction thing, it's obviously debunking the stuff that kendrick used for his previous artwork, because if you go on your streaming dsps, kendrick changed his artwork for 660. Like coop alluded to, it was either 616 or um the meet the grams. He took it off. Once you find out that it's fake planet evidence, you want to move on. So y'all can stop saying it's fan fiction and made up, because you know it's real. Like that evidence was planted. A lot of what kendrick was saying was running with that narrative. It's already been debunked by the girl herself that Drake doesn't have another daughter. So y'all can leave that theory alone. Drake is pretty diabolical for doing that. Like on some Art of War stuff, let's give it credit. You know what I mean For planting evidence or giving fake information to a mold that you think you can use. That's some art of war stuff.
Speaker 3:But what I don't like about this whole situation and we'll move on, we'll backtrack to Friday night, I guess. But like we've talked about the unbalanced skills what I'm seeing a lot of is that Drake has to come clean and debunk everything that's been said about him, whether it's the pedoo allegations or you know just anything versus and I don't like all the slanderous stuff, we'll get to that later but Kendrick had allegations on him too. You know he put hands on his woman. You know he might have a child that's not his or whatever. I don't like it from either side. So I'm just taking it at face value, like it's fake until proven otherwise. But I don't like people acting like drake's side of things has to be debunked and then nobody's acknowledging what was said about kendrick and you just taking it for face value.
Speaker 3:That is like oh, that's not true. Not, kendrick, you know what I mean and that's. That's real, real quick coop. That's drake's whole point of his this. He's said to Kendrick you're a dog just like me, like you know what I mean. You're in the mud too. So my point is when two people are in the mud getting dirty, you can't tell who's the dirtiest.
Speaker 3:Which the hip hop fan base has? Kendrick as the pure hip hop artists and Drake is the antithesis of that. So that's where Drake kind of has an uphill battle, because he has to deal with that image. Granted, he leans into that image, but what he's saying in the kid saying to Kendrick is. You're not who the people think you are. You know what I mean. You're not that Messiah. You're not that um. You know black activists or whatever he's. You know he's telling people that he's no different than me At least I embrace my stuff he's no different than me. So people got to give Drake, you know, at least give him some credit for what he's trying to reveal he's trying to reveal Okay, so let's piggyback up off that right quick.
Speaker 2:A G. So we already know for a fact, and I don't care what people say, because it's like somebody just said they could have just blurred out the prescription bottle of taking it down is about the prescription bottle. That's not true. It got taken down because he realized he had got set up for the Okie dope. Okay, so he got Okie doke by drake. Nobody's acknowledging that and nobody's actually actually acknowledging the fact that it's like okay, you're bringing up this 11 year old daughter thing. Well, that's already been debunked.
Speaker 2:What I'm about to say is very, very serious. Look at what's going on with diddy right now. Now, a lot of people may not be willing to admit this in our culture, but diddy is not the relevant figure that he used to be by today's standard. In our culture, he is more of a legacy brand ambassador. At this point, do you understand what I'm saying when I say that it's like what he does right now really isn't a current thing. It's a legacy. He's a legend. He's our biggest brand ambassador in a lot of ways, type of thing.
Speaker 2:Now, look at what's happening to him and how he's being torn down. So you're going to tell me our biggest star and our biggest spear is doing sex trafficking and being a pedophile, and the motherfucking feds don't know, the police don't know. If this shit was going on, really, the police would be involved. Tell me that I'm wrong. Think about how big drake is. If this is going on, the police would be involved. Tell me that I'm wrong. Think about how big drake is. If this is going on, the police would be involved.
Speaker 2:What he's really saying is is that your, your late 30s ass likes 18 to 21 year old girls. I hate to be the one to break it to the messiah kendrick. So do most of these other rapping ass rappers that you rap with, and so does your ass. And so the hypocrisy that he's saying by calling him a pedophile. If Drake was really doing this stuff, I don't know there wouldn't be no battle to be had, because that nigga would be in cuffs and under investigation, because that's how big he is currently in this space. But when all these rappers who are in their 30s and 40s and 50s are walking around and dating girls that are young enough to be their daughter, we don't say shit. It's only a problem when it's Drake, and so the hypocrisy is real too. Go ahead, aj.
Speaker 3:Let me get that super chat.
Speaker 1:I don't want to get too far away. Goj or Garge, I'm sorry if I'm chopping your name up. Great Convoy, as always, kdot has the inner city right now and that's the key. Tracy G States and thanks for the super chat as well. Tracy G states nope, we are not saying meet the gram is a banger, it is better help therapy commercial. One hundred LP says that stuff is Stan. That stuff is Stan fiction started by a Drake Stan account who even said it was a theory. That stuff is Stan fiction started by a Drake Stan account who even said it was a theory.
Speaker 2:There are community notes on X on why they can't use the pic. How y'all speak, stan culture, but use it. And the last one he got an okie doke, ain't nobody, ain't nobody, because the video alludes to the fact that he okie doke them. That's, that's what I'm saying. This is like no, I'm not buying that, because he literally made a whole video around it showing that he set them up.
Speaker 3:Yeah, kendrick is cool with Kodak, like LP said. That's all we need to say, that's some hypocrisy.
Speaker 1:I have noticed that there is a bias on both sides, but I have to say that Kendrick's not like us and Drake's Family Matters are both masterful.
Speaker 3:Yes, they are. That's what I'm trying to do is call it right down the middle and call out inconsistencies. What I read somebody say is that Kendrick talked about you know that on his albums that he's, you know, not a perfect person or what have you, but it's the fans that got the wool pulled over their eyes. Nobody's saying Kendrick is necessarily the one doing it. Even if he did address it himself, it's his fan base that holds him in that regard, because he's saying he's not a perfect person or what have you, but nobody's calling out certain things. Me and my girl was having a conversation this morning about our imitating life. When we Cry together came out, I don't remember anybody speculating that he had a real domestic issue with his wife. So and I don't want to, you know, speak to that, cause it hasn't been proven. But you know if, if that's being said now, then do we have to look at that song like differently, cause there was people vibing to that song.
Speaker 2:You look at that song like differently because there was people vibing to that song. You know what I mean. And then yo let me ask you all both something well, let me prove it.
Speaker 3:Let me say this one more thing, coop, real quick, just real quick. And the thing I'm talking about the Kendrick fan base and the inconsistency and the hypocrisy about how he does things. Look at the little nuances on the 616 I don't know if it was 616 or Euphoria. It was Euphoria where he was talking about. Rap is not my life. I have time for that. I'm teaching my son how to pray. I'm teaching him how to do this.
Speaker 3:That you don't know nothing about that because you're a deadbeat dad, I don't have time to dig up dirt on you. I'm paraphrasing. But then the next dick of this record comes all the dirt digging. So which one is it? Are you digging dirt or you don't have time to dig dirt because you're being a good father? You know what I mean. So it's like I'm just trying to point out inconsistencies where the fans ain't being objective on some point and I don't, like you know where it's at with a lot of the, the slander back and forth. One of my homies said yo, this is like Biden and Trump, this is going to a crazy place right now. You know what I mean. So go ahead, coop, with what you was going to say.
Speaker 2:No, we're going to have some real life conversation. Right quick, you come home, your girl finds out that you've been cheating on her. How peaceful that conversation about to be. Really, fellas, it's real tough. How peaceful the conversation about to be, is she going to sit down and be all calm, be like so her? You've been swinging that dick around town, but she going to be at your ass.
Speaker 2:So the fact that he won't address Drake's biggest point that he keeps reiterating is which is now, you don't put your hands on your girl. You know what I'm saying and, to be honest with you, it's like I mean, we're all familiar with NDAs, right, it's been a lot of NDA talk behind the scenes lately. You know what I'm saying and the reality of the matter is that, well, you done made what four or five diss records and you're supposed to be this messiah or whatever, and not in one of these records have you addressed a serious allegation of domestic violence, while you're calling this man a pedophile. A serious allegation of domestic violence, while you're calling this man a pedophile. And so it's like it's hard for the weight of it to really carry when you have an address like drake is addressing the stuff that you say like if you go back and listen to push-up push-ups, he's addressing what kendrick is saying. On like that, like every time drake comes out, he's addressing something that kendrick is saying.
Speaker 2:Kendrick has yet to address his allegations, which makes me take a few things. First of all, you know what the first thing I think is Is that when you do something and you don't want anybody to know that you did it, silence is your best friend. Second is that these songs are pre-recorded and he's just adding stuff in as he goes, as the content gets updated. For the moment, he is the type of artist and the type of writer that will record five songs in a night and then go back and rework those songs. That's what I'm saying. Jack, a grown-ass man that's being a pedophile that's as big as Drake, doesn't need to address the allegations because, trust me, if they're real, the police are coming to get his ass. They're going to come and get him. That's not. People need to stop looking at sex trafficking like it's some sort of minor misdemeanor where you get 30 days in jail and a $2,000 fine. Your ass is going to prison for a long time if you're doing that stuff.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but why does he gotta be OBO Coop just because he's pointing out some inconsistencies? Man, we gotta stop with that.
Speaker 2:This is where people need to start being realistic. It's like this man's making all these diss records and the records are good, but you haven't addressed your elephant in the room either. Like, while you got everybody in LA Gangsta boogieing right now. That's fine. I actually love it for you. But the reality of the matter is is is that this man said that she was hitting on your girl and you didn't say nothing about it? And for what your reputation is in this community, which is why people love him so much because he's looked at as some sort of messiah or some sort of leader. How much damage would that do to him if it comes out that he's been putting his hands on his wife and cheating on her? Doesn't sound very messiah like now, does it? Doesn't sound very leader like does it?
Speaker 3:but this is and I'm not knocking for his own this is the thing that I that I hate about this current situation. Right, because we're in a place where fan bases are arguing what's the worst or most egregious offense Like you know, is the pedophile allegations worse, or is the spousal abuse allegations the worst, and I think that and I'm going to say this a lot of people might not agree with me, but I think Story of Adidon might have affected hip hop for the worse than that, because we're at a stage where the winner is not determined by who's rapping better, who's putting out the better songs lyrics, what have you? It's who can dig up the most dirt and say the most scathing, salacious thing about the other person, whether it be true or not, and then you get into a smear campaign. You know what I mean. So I think story added on like is pretty much the start of that, because when Jay-Z and Nas was going at it and we keep referencing that Jay-Z came out with some pretty salacious information, but did it win him the battle? It didn't. He still lost the battle.
Speaker 3:But now everything is predicated on who could find the most dirt on the other person. You know what I'm saying. I think that I said it the last show. I don't think we'll ever get a clear victor in this battle, one because of both of the fan bases. Neither one is going to be objective and say, okay, you know, he got him. You know what I mean, because I think that's when you really win a battle, when you can win over the other fan base and they tip their hat and say, yo, you know what I mean, I give it to you. You won that. But now it's going to a place, ugly, where it's like you determining the winner by who had the worst offense. You know what I mean, and that's that's a different place that we are right now.
Speaker 2:Well, here's the reality of the matter, and this is why I don't appreciate people like See, here's the thing. If you criticize kendrick one time, people forget all the positive things you just said. I just said he's just had the best three record run that he's had in seven years.
Speaker 3:Yeah but you said but you're still ovio coop.
Speaker 2:Right, I said, I said that he's winning this battle. You said that. But then I bring up the fact that there are domestic abuse allegations about him being touted around and now, all of a sudden, I'm team drake. It's like no, I'm actually being a real journalist. I'm actually saying it's like no, musically, you're winning this fight. You've just made three great records. I just shouted out my homie sneakerhead 23 from cali, giving me a timeline of what he's making la look like right now, and this is why I've been on his ass about what he's capable of. But part of being a journalist and being unbiased is actually addressing the fact that the other man said you were beating on his wife and you got a song on your last album about domestic violence well, let's, let's transition off of uh kendrick songs was he keeping it what I'm saying?
Speaker 2:was he keeping it real when he was doing the domestic abuse song, or was that just art?
Speaker 3:The art imitates life sometimes, but we don't know. I'm just, I'm judging these songs. I'm judging these songs on the songs themselves not the salacious stuff, you know.
Speaker 2:Hold on, AG, and not to be funny, especially when you're a woman bigger than you.
Speaker 3:But that was a Drake, that was a Drake line.
Speaker 2:No, I mean, it's not a drake line though. It's a reality. It's like we this is what I'm saying like sometimes we need to step back and look at the real life situations about it. It's like so you've admitted to cheating. She's bigger than you, she a sister, right? Oh yeah, nigga, that wasn't a peaceful conversation. It's not a peaceful conversation. I don't know why people are stunting because it's kendrick and acting like it was. I'm not saying that he did it, because we don't have evidence, but what I'm saying is is for who he is, for how he likes to give this black commentary and talk about all these social issues and social injustices and things done to our people and make songs like Black or the Berry. If he is who y'all think that he is and who he said he is, don't you think that would have been the first thing that he addressed, not the shit that he's been avoiding through all these songs? We have to ask these questions as journalists. He's winning the battle. Did you beat your woman, though?
Speaker 3:but I think sean covered this earlier. Right, it's not that you know, kendrick has a fat, a big fan base, but the people rocking with him right now might not even rock with Kendrick like that on a real level. Some of these people that might be saying, oh, you're taping for OVO or what have you? How many of y'all done paid money to go to a Kendrick show or purchase his music or what have you? I think a lot of people might hate Drake so much. That's why they want Kendrick to win. It's not that they rock with Kendrick like that. Like what did Kanye say? We're energized for the elimination of Drake, and I think a lot of people are on that same thought process. They want Drake up out of here, even if you know whoever is at the hands of, and Kendrick just so happens to be that guy. So I think it's a lot of unjust scales that like come with that.
Speaker 2:Look, listen, listen to what I'm saying. People. Y'all really sound foolish. The police are the biggest gang in the world. They got way more Intel and resources and money than Kendrick could ever pray to have. And what y'all niggas is telling me is that y'all believe Kendrick knows more than the biggest gang in the world. You sound fucking stupid. That's just straight up how it is. The police are the biggest gang in the world. They know what you're doing. Look, here I'm going to tell you a true story. I got pulled over with my man one time that I used to cop from. You understand what I'm saying. Apd pulled us over. When they stopped us, they looked at both me and him and they said we know what you're both doing, so we're just gonna take that out the trunk and y'all gonna go to work, got it. We was like got it. The police know before people know. Stop acting like kent. This is what I mean about him being deified. People literally think he has access to some type of information like that.
Speaker 3:That would literally get motherfuckers locked up and get them time straight like that well, let's, let's get off the speculation and stuff and let let's talk about the bars.
Speaker 2:And there's been no smoke about this in Drake's 15-year career, has there? Is this the first time we're hearing this in 15 years?
Speaker 3:Well, yeah, but let's talk about actual bars. We haven't really highlighted Drake's diss and what he's been doing, because we're actually going backwards.
Speaker 1:Let me go to Super Chats. Before we get into that, before we transition there, no doubt. We got ill sunset. R Kelly married a teen, had a video peeing on a girl and got away with it for another decade. How long did Diddy get away with?
Speaker 2:it. Nothing's been proven about Diddy yet. While y'all saying all that, yeah, nothing but proven. If they had enough proof on Diddy to lock him up, you know where Diddy would be right now?
Speaker 1:Yeah, under the jail. The girl in the video is Andy Kern, who's daughter, and he made that in 2020 has nothing to do with this beef. All right, no doubt.
Speaker 3:So working backwards, Sean, like going to the Family Matters track. Just speaking about bars, right, you know I'm done talking with all the salacious stuff because I don't want to go too deep down that rabbit hole, but just the bars itself. What I found clever about Drake's diss Family Matters is he's aware of his position in this game, right, Because people are automatically going to write him off because he's not the quote-unquote lyric guy. You know, Kendrick, it's never been a debate who's the better MC? Okay, let's just be real.
Speaker 3:Nobody's ever said you'll never see any of the three of us fix our face to say that Drake is a better MC than Kendrick. But just because you're the better MC doesn't mean you can't take an L in the battle. It doesn't mean you can't take an L in the battle, it doesn't absolve you of that. So everything is fair game. And Drake put out a hell of a diss with Family Matters and I think he realizes his position because he had a lot of Easter eggs in that video visually. But one thing I liked about it is he put the lyrics up on the screen because he knows that a lot of people's ears are going to be turned off to what he's saying because he's the not lyric. He's not the lyric guy, so they're just going to dismiss it like oh, drake ain't saying nothing, but you can't dismiss something that's right in front of you a lot of times. So I think that was a nice touch him putting the lyrics on the screen to the video, having easter eggs in the video of what was going on, and I think it was a solid disc. To be honest, I think a lot of people were holding the fact against him that he addressed so many other people, like Ross and A$AP Rocky got it pretty bad or whatever, but I mean, all these people took shots at him. What do you expect them to do? I think he covered all the bases pretty masterfully, but at the end of the day, you do got to focus on the main event. I still to this day, I say Jay, not dedicating three verses to Nas on takeover and one to Prodigy in retrospect was his biggest fallacy. So now that that's out of the way, I think Drake needs to focus solely on Kendrick.
Speaker 3:But I don't see how you can hold it against Drake how he massively went through everybody on his diss track and pretty much addressed everything and everybody. You know, and he was spitting on there. So you know, go ahead, sean, you've been pretty quiet man. What you got.
Speaker 1:Y'all get it off. No, I think I don't like that, because the battle right now is between Drake and Kendrick. Kendrick is smoking your boots right now. Don't focus on no one else. Don't focus on Metro, don't go back to Ross, don't go back to no one. Keep your focus on Kendrick, because he's the one throwing everything at you at this point. He's smoking your boots in every category lyrically, metaphorically, realistically, whatever you want to put out there, he's smoking your boots right now. He has taken the lead. Keep your focus on him, because the other focus I said this in the very beginning don't get involved in the other stuff. Don't get involved into the distractions, involved in the other stuff. Don't get involved into the distractions. When Nas and Jay was going at it, he focused directly on Jay. Jay had to focus back on Nas. It wasn't nobody, it wasn't Jay, your felony. It wasn't Mase, it wasn't these other guys. You had to keep the focus on the person that is smoking you right now. And I say that respectfully, because we have to keep it a bug across the board.
Speaker 1:Right now, kendrick is doing what for years, we predicted that he could do. We said that he was the boogeyman. We never seen it, we never thought that he could do this until he actually started doing it, when Drake dropped Family Matters. And then shortly after, here comes Kendrick with another response. If I'm Drake, I'm looking at that like I got to get back into the booth right now because I can't let him continue to compound what I'm putting out, because what Kendrick put out back to back it compounded Family Matters. It's hard to even talk about Family Matters, which was a stellar record, because now we're talking about what Kendrick is doing, I'm going to say I'm going to move on the other piece to. That is not the only thing. He actually shitted on Family Matters. He circled the block again and dropped a joint that you can dance to, a joint that everyone in Kelly is dancing to right now.
Speaker 2:That's where he got them.
Speaker 1:That's where it's getting them, because now you have a movement, when you have a movement in a diss record, no one is really listening to what you're saying. They're feeling the vibe. It's the vibration energy Hold on.
Speaker 3:This is the third time he's done that, like that, the Al Green record and this.
Speaker 2:Well, what he's doing with this last record is where I give him the real advantage, because Drake is the one that's supposed to be making bangers in this, this battle, not.
Speaker 3:Kendrick, that's what I said, yeah.
Speaker 2:So, so, so. So this is where we have a real problem.
Speaker 3:Kendrick, you know the dance on there. You put the dance at the end, like you know like we did the little dance at the end.
Speaker 2:We did the little dance call out at the end of the record. That's what I mean. He's doing a lot of different things and some of it does have the feeling like, oh well, let's throw this at the dartboard and see what's going to hit the bullseye. But when you officially do what the person you're against does extremely well, and you still keep your style and you still make it for your hood, it's like, oh no, that's going three for three. You know what I'm saying? Right, so he's up. But that's what I keep trying to tell everybody. It's not that I don't think Kendrick is up, it's. Are we being fair?
Speaker 3:right, right, we definitely think Kendrick is up, but the other side ain't being fair, right.
Speaker 2:Right, right, right we. We definitely think Kendrick is up, but the other side ain't being fair, right.
Speaker 3:So everybody gets 1,000%, so everybody in the chat.
Speaker 2:So everybody in the chat that would never talk this shit to me in person, cause I'd slap the shit out of them and stop doing that Right, cause I will come to your neighborhood, I don't care.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying. When you're a wave rider, it's easy to hop on a wave. When you're already, you know, when you're a part of you're a jockey from the culture. You pull it from the culture if you will. And I say that because you think about Jay. When Jay was riding those waves, he did it at the highest clip than those who created the wave Right, which made him universal. Drake was able to do the same thing. Drake became more universal because he was able to ride the wave at a higher clip. So now you have to ask yourself, drake, are you the wave starter? Can you start your own motion? Because right now, what's kendrick is doing? He's walking your boots.
Speaker 3:I got an answer for that, sean. Even if he's starting it, kendrick is just doing it better at this point. Don't forget Taylor made freestyle. Taylor made freestyle. He had a Dr Dre S beat which was very West Coast talking about him from a West Coast legends perspective. And then Kendrick comes back later on with the Not Like Us and it's even more West Coast than the Taylor made freestyle joint and it's more of a specific West Coast bounce and a West Coast bop. Even though that and it's more of a specific West Coast bounce and a West Coast bop, even though that was a Dr Dre as beat, it still doesn't have the same impact when you put it on as the Not Like Us record. So he's just doing everything a little bit better than Drake at this point. But even with that said like do y'all feel like that Drake is on the mat at this point?
Speaker 2:here's, here's how I feel, even with that said, like, do y'all feel like that Drake is on the mat at this point? Here's, here's how I feel. So for me, the Meet the Grams record is a dope record, but I think it's the best beat of all the songs that we've gotten out of this series. That's my favorite. Beat that I've heard just for me, like on some rap shit, you know what I'm saying. Beat that I've heard just for me, like on some rap shit, you know what I'm saying. But I don't necessarily think that it's a better record than a family matters, because here's why most of what he's doing on meet the grams is conjecture that he can't prove, and so it sounds like he's just hold on. Let me finish. So it sounds like he's just talking shit, and so I would call that a draw Like.
Speaker 2:For me, it's been virtually a draw up to this point, until the last record drop in the last record, where I was like, oh no, now, now he need to do something, because think about it, he's using his style like he's using Kendrick style. He's on his West Compton, la, hyphy, oakland, cali, shit. But he's made a banger out of it, which is what you're supposed to be doing, and so he's beating him at his game and at his own game at the same damn time. That's hard to pull off in a battle, but here's the last thing that I have to say about it. If all these kendrick records were these classic and these ether-like records that people are talking about, he wouldn't have to keep on, keep releasing these records.
Speaker 2:When Nas faded Jay, there was Stillmatic Freestyle, which was the setup, and then there was Ether, which was the uppercut. You know what I'm saying? There wasn't nothing after that. And so all this talk this is what I mean about it being overstated by the fan base. These are not kill shot records. The last record is the closest thing to a kill shot record. Now, that's damn close, and so if you had to tell me, when I heard that record last night, I was like, oh, like I was at work and the only break that I took I had the phone to my ear and I was like y'all see me text. I was like he needs to respond tonight.
Speaker 3:Well, to your point, coop tonight.
Speaker 2:I think, now he's getting smoked.
Speaker 3:Not even considering what happened last night with the Not Like Us record. If you go back to Friday night when it was the back-to-back and that was a genius chess move, dropping it right after family matters because nobody had the time to practically dissect or, you know, let the Drake record marinate. So I don't care if I, like you know, meet the grams is between the two. I actually like family matters better, but meet the meet the grams can be trash. Like Family Matters better, but Meet the Grams can be trash. It can be trash. It don't even matter what he said on the record, it's just how he released it, strategically. That steps on Drake's release Because it took all the oomph out of Drake's release that night. You know what I mean. So Drake didn't have a chance to gain any traction. So that record is arguably more pivotal than any record that Kendrick has dropped, not in quality wise, but just how he did it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it stopped the momentum. It stopped Drake's momentum. Correct, absolutely.
Speaker 1:Let me get this. I got a couple of more. I don't want to miss these guys. Tracy G says thanks, guys, for your unbiased views. Real talk. Drake's songs were bumped in the whip, k-dot were not, and Cole is the GOAT.
Speaker 2:Now here's what I will tell you, between Jake Cole's apology and what he's doing to Drake right now. Now you're smoking on somebody's top five nigga. Now you're smoking on somebody's top five nigga. Now you're smoking on somebody's top five Congratulations.
Speaker 3:And I see the vision Cole, I ain't as mad as what I once was, bro. I see the vision Cole, Me neither.
Speaker 1:Hold on. No, no, we can't do that.
Speaker 2:Let me get a super chat.
Speaker 1:Let me get a super chat real quick.
Speaker 3:We'll let Sean read the super chat and explain himself.
Speaker 1:All KDOT disses have more views than Family Matters, even though Drake dropped a whole video for it. Kdot beating the numbers guy at his own game that's a great point.
Speaker 3:But a lot of those numbers are tied to who he's talking about.
Speaker 2:Correct, correct. So people have to understand something and this is why all these dudes ganging up on Drake is hilarious to me. It's like man, half these niggas shit would have even went platinum the last 10 years if Drake didn't jump on it. All right, including Kendrick. What's the second single off his debut rap album? Who he used to help Garner fans and to get accolades? Who? Who Rick Ross used, who Future used, who 21 used, who Metro used, like all these guys are talking shit.
Speaker 2:It's like oh, that's been your go-to guy when you need to get some notoriety, when you need to get some traction, when you need to get some numbers. Because, best believe that if Cole was involved in this and Kendrick was talking about Cole, there wouldn't be, no, 9 million views. No, there wouldn't. It's 9 million views because it's about Drake and the fact that people don't understand the numbers game, and understand that clearly, because it's like, in terms of numbers, kendrick's not in Drake's stratosphere when it comes to doing numbers. So when you're looking at the numbers Kendrick is doing right now, that is in direct relationship to who he is talking about and who he's embattled with. Stop making it seem like that if Kendrick were to drop a diss about Cole that it would have 9 million views in two days. No, it would not, not a chance.
Speaker 3:Sean, can I piggyback off something Coop said real quick? Yeah, yeah, yeah. About the ether thing. Like I'm in that belief too, like I had this be pretty even until Kendrick dropped Not Like Us, right, and I agree with you 1,000. Every Kendrick people are so eager to get Drake up out of here. Every Kendrick record since Euphoria has been. This is the one, this is Ether level Like this is the one you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is Ether level three times.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so, kendrick. That's why Jay-Z lost the battle, because Ether knocked him off his square. Jay-z's the cool guy, too cool for school. Whatever, drake at this point still seems unbothered. So this could go for a while and we might have to go to the scorecards. And if I'm going to the scorecards now, kendrick is winning you know these rounds and by decision, not by knockout. So we need to stop acting out, you know online, acting like Kendrick came with the knockout punch each and every time, because it's not that these are dope disses, but it's not finishing off the thing now. Granted, drake still has to respond. I'm with you, um, coop, the ball's in Drake's court now he has to do that. But the main point that I wanted to get to, something that I realized during this battle, and I don't you know if we you want to debate for a quick two minutes, coop, we, we can. We had our discussion about what was the greatest diss record of all time. You went with no Vaseline, I went with Ether right.
Speaker 2:I was doing that to do some contrarian stuff too. I had to give you some smoke because I knew you was going to pick Ether.
Speaker 3:OK, but to that point, to that point, like I said, ether knocked the top dog off his square, made him uncomfortable. You know, on the radio, all that stuff, drake is still unbothered and every song is supposedly an Ether level type song. So when I talk to people who compare LeBron to Jordan, even if you throw all the stats out the window if you throw all the stats out the window, right, you look at Anthony Edwards everybody comes in the league that's a dope player. They say what he's the the window. If you throw all the stats out the window, right. You look at Anthony Edwards, everybody comes in the league. That's a dope player. They say what he's the next Jordan. Nobody says he's the next LeBron or whatever. Jordan is still the standard bearer of basketball when you're comparing somebody and what I learned today is well, you know, over the weekend is either still the standard bearer of a hip-hop diss because everybody references oh, this is going to be ether level, even though it's not, they're capping, it's still the standard. Better, nobody references no vaseline in that same regard.
Speaker 2:so with that I say cool, you lost no, I'm going to give you some pushback and here's what I will tell you. First of all, ether is 10 years, uh, ahead of no vaseline. So a lot of people that are familiar with ether being a verb in our culture to describe a battle or to describe what happens to a rapper, think about the time that ether came along. Ether came along in a time where it's like the internet had started to explode, and so ether is an adjective and a verb that we use to describe winning a battle, what happens to a rapper he got ethered. You know what I'm saying when no Vaseline came out. That's 1991. We don't have the same type of access and resources. I say that no Vaseline is ether level and possibly greater, because Nas may have taken down a Prime J, ice Cube took down a Prime, nwa has in a whole crew, as in. We do not get Dr Dre and Death Row records, probably without that record.
Speaker 4:Because he got up in Dre.
Speaker 2:Shit, easy shit, wren shit, jerry, ruthless, whoever. How about this? No, vaseline is what opened the door for Suge to walk in and get Dre, because they rep was so bad in the streets in their own neighborhood, claiming Compton, but you moved to Riverside. So historically it changed the landscape of things very much, in the same way that Ether did.
Speaker 3:It's just the internet wasn't involved well, true, but to piggyback off that, then we can move on. And you want to talk about massively going through multiple people and breaking them down and dissing them. He did that with no Vaseline and dismantled the whole crew, but what I'll tell you is this he was the main writer for that crew, so we're moving himself out of the situation. All you really got left is Ren to go head to head with.
Speaker 2:I would tell you this though, even though he had left the crew and I do think Straight Outta Compton is better than Niggas for Life and 100 Miles and Runnin' those albums are still classics without.
Speaker 4:Ice Cube they are.
Speaker 2:I think if Ice Cube is on Niggas for Life, I think we have a top five rap album conversation. That's how good that album is.
Speaker 3:Ren is good with the pay. He doesn't get mentioned enough, but it comes down to Cube versus. Ren.
Speaker 2:And Eazy's a star, and Dre upped his level on the beats for niggas for life. So they were doing just fine and going multi-platinum until no Vaseline popped up and then we ain't here for the nigga six. All we heard was the chronic and easy real motherfucking G's and like all that it was a whole crew breakdown. No crew that great has ever been broken down like that and that's why I say no Vaseline.
Speaker 3:It's because it's more of a one-on-one record. You told them the paper wasn't right. That's all they had to do is tell them that paper wasn't right. Jerry Heller got it the worst.
Speaker 2:Let me get the super chat real quick. I think Wren caught it the worst, but that's speculative.
Speaker 1:Wren caught a battle. I'm not even going to mess your name up, homie. Just taking a walk from the studio here in NYC and I just walked by two white girls with British accents talking about how Dot slaughtered Drake. This is really that big, Absolutely. Phantom O's find cool. A lot of Drake's streaming numbers are juked by streaming farms Cool. All right, that's the whole conversation we're not going to get into.
Speaker 2:Okay, but this is where people want to move Drake out the way. So streaming farms exist, but it only benefits Drake, right? It doesn't benefit all these other artists that weren't selling like Drake before streaming farms existed. This is the part of it that kind of feels like. It's like okay, is this about a battle? Or is this about Drake having a 15 year run and people being tired of Drake because if streaming farms work for everybody. Like I know some Atlanta artists like stop playing them. Numbers ain't real without inflation.
Speaker 3:People feel like Drake is anti hip hop. Drake can't win because if Doc wins, that's better for hip hop culture moving forward that's just how people feel that's how people feel.
Speaker 1:Hold up. Talk on that. Peter Park said culture moving forward that's just how people feel. That's how people feel, hold on. Talk on that. Peter Park said Drake needs a timestamp song to win and Kendrick is up, but only slightly.
Speaker 2:He can't do that now it's more than slightly.
Speaker 3:No, he can't do the timestamp song now, because Kendrick already did it. You can't come with a timestamp song after Kendrick hit you with your own.
Speaker 1:I think you still can. They got to be a hot clip. I think you can.
Speaker 2:Word on the street is that Kendrick dropping tomorrow too.
Speaker 1:Right, you got to be D1. Stephon Young says I like Family Matters the most. Ariana says I know Vansley hands down the best. K Nicole says Ether made people not care about Jay's response. Disses to it. If Drake's response doesn't get more buzz, it's over and we just need a new Kendrick album.
Speaker 3:We gonna get an album when this is.
Speaker 1:This is the album guys, I don't think he'll do that. Mad Max said the bridge is over. The best diss is shut and burrowed down so bad that G-Rap, who wasn't dissed, couldn't save them. They had to wait to Nas and Jen later and had to bring Queens back. I don't even want to talk about the bridges over. Let's get off of that. Yo can I say one?
Speaker 3:thing real quick, cause the way my brain be working.
Speaker 3:I'm a light lose. This joint Right. Do y'all remember when uh Drake released the Taylor made freestyle backestyle back-to-back, and people said that he was spiraling out of control because he was asking for Kendrick to come outside and he released two joints? Kendrick even said that he was spiraling right. But when Kendrick released five straight joints in less than a week's time, that's different. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:These are the inconsistencies from the fan bases that we're pointing out. You call in one dude that he's spiraling. The other dude is like doing what he's supposed to do. But in that same regard, kendrick asked Drake to come outside, and he is very much outside. But if I'm Joe Budden right now, I'm somewhere pissed off because this is exactly what Joe did to Drake. But people felt like Joe Budden was punching up and Drake didn't have to respond because of who he was. Now Kendrick is somebody that's in Drake's weight class and he's releasing a slew of diss tracks a whole EP's worth, and then everybody's like going crazy about it. But this has been done before, ladies and gentlemen, but now we want to pay attention to it because, like I said on the last show, it's about the messenger, not necessarily who. The message? The message is what the message is, because joe button has did this before and nobody wanted to hear it.
Speaker 2:I was telling everybody years ago that button killed drake, but everybody was like nobody cares what joe button gotta say look, here I was telling people that the story of Adidon might be one of the weaker Pusha T diss records in terms of actual records, actual song quality.
Speaker 3:You've been dissing him for years. I think Dumpy's actually better.
Speaker 2:I think Infrared's better than all of them, and so is Exodus.
Speaker 3:Exodus is the best. Exodus is the best.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying. People don't even know that Exodus exists in this battle. Climate.
Speaker 3:Push the one based off the information he had. But record for record, I prefer Dupie. But there's no denying that Drake lost that battle.
Speaker 2:The only thing about the story of Adidon is the fact that he revealed something that we didn't know. Facts, yeah.
Speaker 3:I don't really care about all of that.
Speaker 1:I don't care about the rumors and the gossip, I want hip-hop. I want hip-hop. You can be as disrespectful as you wish, I want to hear the hip-hop piece. I want to hear it going back and forth. Remember when Jadakiss and Styles did Sorry, miss Jackson when they were literally rapping to 50's Dead Mother and they was telling us that was very disrespectful.
Speaker 2:No mercy.
Speaker 1:It was probably one of the most scathing things I've heard in my life. At that time they're rapping to his dead mother and calling him or her calling 50. During that time it was wartime. They weren't stopping the momentum is what broke 50 and G-Unit as a whole, because you had game jumping in there. He didn't stop the momentum.
Speaker 1:What Kendrick is doing right now is he's generating a lot of momentum. That's why I was saying drake, you gotta get in front of this because if you don't, you're going to get rolled over, because now that momentum is starting to build up. When jada kiss and styles p dropped sergeant jackson and they were rapping to 50s dead mother and calling 50 her, they were saying and she thinks she's big now because she has so much in the club, I'm sitting here like I'm 23, 24 at this time. I'm sitting here like yo. This is crazy, but the way he did it it was so tasteful in a way that you had to appreciate the angle. So now you get back what? 20 plus years later? And Kendrick did very similar acts when he was, you know, talking to Drake's, you know, estranged daughter, his son and Drake's father. The bloodline is there, the connective tissue is there.
Speaker 3:Once again he upped the ante on Drake's approach, because Drake was talking to him from Pop's perspective and Snoop's perspective. Then Kendrick flipped it and said OK, I'm going to talk to your family from a perspective. Conceptually, he will not win against Kendrick at all.
Speaker 3:He will lose that. But can I ask you this, sean, because you've been real quiet this whole show Based on that. Approach him releasing all these diss tracks right? Do you think that momentum is good for kendrick and he's keeping his foot on drake's neck right now or do you think that if you release too much and oversaturate, you're lessening the the punching power of the previous track that you release? Because I think it's some of that going on too, because we're just digesting these things and letting it marinate and then he comes with another one, so I don't think it gets his full. I'm talking about his objective dude, not from the kendrick fan base that says everyone is ether or whatever. Is it getting this just due by one after the other, day after day, or would you rather see him apply pressure foot on drake's neck and keep releasing?
Speaker 1:I thought about this a lot back and forth last night going into today, and I'm going to be honest with you. The way we consume music, the way we consume information, is different today than it was back then. Of course, right, and the fact that he's continuing to put out records, as long as the records have some quality to it, it's going to be okay regardless. Now, when you start losing that quality, because now you can think about quality versus quantity, and if you think about the times that we had when the game was going at the whole GU, not campaign, it was quality and quantity at that time because it was very direct missiles going at 50. At the time, 50 was the biggest thing in hip hop. Same thing with Drake. Right now, drake is still the biggest thing in hip hop that you know Kendrick is going after and he's continuing to drop back to back, back to back, back to back.
Speaker 1:Now it may lose a little bit of his fighting power or punching power, but again, we consume music and information different because we're not just focusing on what Kendrick is really saying or the music itself. We focus on all the storylines attached to it. We focused on everything around it, everything that's going on with it. So now it's not, you know, it's not like compartmentalized, if you will, because we're not talking about song for song. We're adding other flavors into it. We're not just focusing on like that or, you know, not like us, or whatever. We're focusing on everything around. Focus on the dancing, we're focusing on how to be on TikTok we focus on all the things at this point.
Speaker 2:See. But here's the thing about that, and this is where the fans have to, like, really stop being biased and be objective, because I can tell you who I pick in the battle, but my job is to tell you who's winning. So Kendrick's winning, but this is what I'm saying, because I said I was worried about his performance when Euphoria came out and I was like it's good, but it's just good. The two records that have followed have proven me that it's like. Yeah, I told you that record was just good, has it not great? Has it not a kill shot, no doubt?
Speaker 3:Because when you really understand we got killed for that, bro. We got killed for that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we got killed for saying Euphoria was just good.
Speaker 3:And Euphoria is the bottom of the barrel of everything he's released to me.
Speaker 2:Thank you, and so that's all I'm saying. Is that, well, you have to be keeping real with yourself first and ask yourself are you saying what you're saying Because Kendrick is your guy? Are you saying what you're saying Because you want to get Drake up out of here? That got nothing to do with the quality of the music, fam.
Speaker 3:You gotta be able to objectively say that, because even the biggest J stands, a lot of them will tell you that super ugly is not it it's not as a hip-hop fan.
Speaker 2:It's not. It, though, and that's what I'm saying is it's like the objectivity is being lost, I feel like because the core quote-unquote hip-hop fan and head wants kendrick to be their representation more than they want drake to be their representation, and that's not how the choices are supposed to get made. Like when, when common dropped the bitch in you. It's like nobody wanted common to fade ice cube, but he did like. It's about who does the better record, it's about who really wins, and that's what's getting lost in this. It doesn't matter if I pick Drake or not. It matters who's actually doing better. That's's why it's like I've literally been saying for the last day and a half well, kendrick's winning, but everybody's like I fucking hate you, coop. I'm like I told you the nigga was winning. What would you like? Would you like to? To quote Nas, would you like to take it in blood? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Speaking of Common. We didn't want Drake to fade Common, but he did.
Speaker 2:He did. He won that battle with Common. That Common diss track was sweet. That wasn't like that. The record suite was sweet.
Speaker 3:But that's what I hate about us as hip-hop heads and I'm not speaking about us, but some people won't even give Drake credit for coming outside every battle. He's not scared to get in the ring, win, lose or draw. Drake is hip-hop, battle tested. People got to give him that credit and then he might find out that he barked up the wrong tree with Kendrick.
Speaker 2:We have to see and here's also the reality of the matter Stop acting like. These dudes are in year number five of their career. These dudes been around since what? When I first hear Drake? 2006?, 2007? I hear.
Speaker 3:Kend Drake 2006?, 2007?. When I heard Kendrick 2006-ish, yeah 2009.
Speaker 2:For Kendrick, this is a final run. That's why I'm telling people hip-hop is winning, because it's like, oh no, this is forcing both of them later in their careers to make quality music late. That's what we should be happy about. At the end of the day, real hip-hop fans we should be happy that both of them later in their careers to make quality music late that's what we should be happy about at the end of the day is like real hip hop fans. We should be happy that both of these dudes right now for their legacies and for what they've already meant to this hip hop community are going at it at this stage. It's a beautiful thing. When Nas and Jay got into it, nas is like in year number seven. Jay was like in year number five. They were still relatively young. It was just the way that we used to police rap politics back then. If a rapper was great more than 5 years, they were iconic, because we had never really seen anybody other than KRS-One at the time be great more than 5 to 7 years no doubt.
Speaker 1:Let me get a super chat real quick. Fellas. Mad Max stated I'll free you my mans. I don't care for the new dot song like that. But OV Ho, the, a minor bar, can't lie. Those was tough dot. But when NYC added the sax to Not Like, us made the song way better than NYC still runs this. When you get the money, nyc still run it.
Speaker 2:Two seconds.
Speaker 1:Mad Max said, drake, if you want to win, you got the G-unit chain. Get out the South, get some modern boom-bap beats and boom-bap to death, absolutely. Mad Max also said, drake, you're the vulnerable guy, so go study Nas, create that I promise narrative with Switch and Brown Hawk. Thank you for the super chat.
Speaker 3:That's a real, good point. That's a good, real point that that super chat was. That might be the angle you need to take.
Speaker 2:What Did Mad Max make? A good point, yeah.
Speaker 1:No, he didn't.
Speaker 2:Y'all don't know Mad Max like I do. He didn't make a good point.
Speaker 1:Nah, go in the vulnerable route. Go in the vulnerable route. Here's the thing. I said this before. Drake should have went to the spot of I'm the big homie. You don't know the homie Like I'm before you, I'm the guy. And he didn't. He didn't pull that card. I think what Drake did, I think he got too cute. He did, he did, and I think he underestimated Kendrick because, let's be honest, a lot of people underestimated Kendrick, underestimated Kendrick Because, let's be honest, a lot of people underestimated Kendrick. We knew what he had in his possession as far as what he can do, but we haven't seen it in a long time. Mr Morale came out and we all was like what was that? What was that? Think about it. No different than Nas. When Nas dropped Nostradamus, god bless. When he dropped Nostradamus, we were like he said God bless, like somebody died.
Speaker 1:Right, because we were on the ropes. You are as good as your last output.
Speaker 3:Because we could be objective as fans. We thought Nas was done when TakeOver came out.
Speaker 1:Right, you are as good as your last output. Kendrick's last output didn't really shake the table, if you will, so it makes him look a little vulnerable, so Jake probably undervalued him in a sense, we didn't undervalue him.
Speaker 2:We valued him properly. This is what I've been saying about this album. The only all-time great rapper to drop an album worse than Mr Morale is Snoop Dogg's the Dogfather when Mr Morale came out.
Speaker 4:I had to stop.
Speaker 2:I would, as far as all-time great rapper. Yes, there hasn't been an all-time great rapper that's made an album that shitty. Yes, it's true, a Mobularity, a Mobularity.
Speaker 3:A Mob huh a mobilarity.
Speaker 2:Mobilarity is better than Mr Morale. It's got sneakers by Pete Rock. It's got live from New York. It's got yay, yo on it. No, there are records that you can actually play on a mobilarity. That's my whole point about this last album.
Speaker 4:It's the worst album next to the dog father, but this is what I'm saying, like that you know.
Speaker 2:Speaking of Nostradamus, that album is so bad. I didn't start stop talking shit about Nostradamus. That album is so bad. I didn't stop talking shit about Nostradamus and 444 and Magna Carter and the nigga album until he dropped Mr Morale. I was like you want to know what. I'm being way too hard on those albums, because those albums are ten times better than this piece of shit.
Speaker 3:But it's level school, because when you're all-time great, you're just on different scales, mr Morale, by an average rapper would be their stellar work. But you're saying based on Kendrick's previous output.
Speaker 1:Who.
Speaker 4:Based on the average rapper.
Speaker 2:All you need to know about how terrible that album is is that these last three diss records are far superior to everything that he did on that album. That album is not any good. Like I'm still understanding what I said. He can win this battle all that he wants and I'll give it to him if he wins. Album still fucking sucks. I'm not changing that shit. Album still sucks. The only album worse by a great rapper all time is the Dogfather. And what's that Prince of Darkness? Shit that Kane did that's.
Speaker 3:Coop State. That's not the views of Hip Hop Talk. That's Coop State. It's definitely that's not the views of Hip Hop Talk. That's Coop's take. It's definitely Kendrick's worst album, yes, but that bad, come on Coop. Nah, we ain't doing that. It's bad.
Speaker 2:Name one song. You play off that album.
Speaker 3:I haven't played the whole album in a while. I'm going to be straight up.
Speaker 2:The Defense Rest album ain't no good. At least Nostradamus got last words.
Speaker 3:I played the song that was added to the album, the most Hard, part 5.
Speaker 2:That don't count. Add-ons don't count. Hold on. Do you want to know how the Hard Part 5 got added? Oh nah Trust me, I know, I know Because that shit was trash and everybody knew it was fucking trash. The album still sucks, he can be all the way up the day which he is.
Speaker 3:Those songs play better live. I will say that.
Speaker 1:Yo crazy, yo super chat real quick. Can I assume that you guys are not fans of the rap vengeance jumping Drake, just asking. Also, wish you guys good mental and physical. Coop knows what it is. What up, cj? Yo, I'm not a fan. Look, I get it. I get it. I get it. They're going to all attack but Drake doesn't have to respond to all of them. Is what I'm saying? Like, even with Rick Ross, he didn't want to sit, man, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3:Go ahead, go ahead. Let's give Shaw the ISO he got to go with his Rick Ross bet. Talk about the plane.
Speaker 1:Go on the ramp. Rick Ross actually went on live, probably had like a near-death experience. He went on live and said yo, I just got shot at the sky by a fighter jet, I think it was Drake. Like, what are you talking about? Like yo shut up. It bothers me because Rick Ross is easy to distract. I said it before. He's an instructor and he won't shut up. He won't be attentive.
Speaker 2:So let's talk briefly about the weakness and what Drake has done, though, because, next to Not Like that, I think Family Matters is actually the best diss record in the series, but, much like the Takeover, he spent too much time focusing on the wrong targets instead of honing in on Kendrick. Like because, sean, you're right. Like it's. Like why ain't he sunning Kendrick and being like yo, I got the biggest hit on your biggest best album. Like, why is shit like that not being said? Be like hey, remember when you used to open for me, little nigga? Like why it's stuff. Like like he's not going into his bag about the advantages that he has over Kendrick and it all. And it does make me feel like and this was an ego thing with Jay too it's like oh, you think you can spray everybody and then spray K-Dot. It's like no.
Speaker 2:Trashy album or no trashy album. The talent is there.
Speaker 3:The talent, you have to respect the talent.
Speaker 1:You have to respect the talent. Think about the lineage of battles that we've seen.
Speaker 2:Almost every battle he could be taking Kendrick shit from him and be like what top five are you smoking on nigga? You know what I'm saying when you smoke somebody. While I was out here really battling niggas, he's not using any of this material.
Speaker 3:But Family Matters.
Speaker 2:I'll write the next diss record for him.
Speaker 3:Family Matters is arguably better than Back to Back, but Back to Back did more damage. I think Family Matters is pretty good, better than Back to Back, but Back to Back did more damage. I think Family Matters is pretty good. I think it's better than Duffy for sure.
Speaker 2:If we're talking on some rap shit, it's better, but it's like 007 said, it's like you kind of got to have the iconic lines on Back to Back is what put it over the top. When I heard the you Get Embodied by a Singing Nig nigga I was like this is over.
Speaker 3:Is your girl tour awards to that, the girl tour world tour that's. That was one of the quotables, so this ain't what she meant.
Speaker 2:When she told you to open up more, I was like yeah.
Speaker 3:I might be tripping saying it's better than a back to back. I retract that statement. But you know, going off, 007 said all the components and shout out to 007, all the components that need to be in a dope diss record. Sometimes and this is a segue into you know, if y'all want to do this now sometimes a diss record can be dope as a diss but as a record it's not as good, and vice versa. Sometimes a record could be a dope record how it plays, but the disses are kind of watered down. You know what I mean. The best ones are the all-encompassing. It's a good record and the disses land All the punches land. So, with that said, how are we going to rank these? Because you Coop said other than like, like that you said Family Matters was second team yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:So like that is only one of these records that belongs on an album. That's what I'm saying. So that's how I look at it. Is your diss record good enough as a song to find placement on an album? Like for me, I hope. Like I hold something like Drop A Gym On Em High, because that's a great diss record about a great rapper on a classic rap album. Yeah, ether Takeover, no Vaseline these are on classic rap albums, guys. Yeah, they add to the lore of classic rap albums because of the quality of the record, and so if we're talking about that highest level in terms of it being quality enough to be a great disc record and go on an album too, the Last Kendrick record is the only one of the ones, and that's why I'm saying this is like well, that ain't no kill shot, because even with that being said and I know niggas in LA boogieing is probably going to be mad at me right now- oh, that's not that level of the records that I just named.
Speaker 3:It's not for me. For me, 616 is the second best behind, like that. I, I love uh 616 in la and just everything. You know all the entendres and the meanings of the title and all that stuff it was. It was crazy and the record was good because and then coming off of euphoria, because if you watch the show, friend of the show, you know we didn't really rock with euphoria at all, at least me and coop didn't and sean was on here capping like he liked it, but you know, behind the scenes he said he didn't like it, you know but anyway, let me get to the super chat, brown hall.
Speaker 1:Oh, they'll put me in y'all mess. Oh, now, now we are in the window. Winds of lyrics in hip-hop drake. Need to study. Drop A Gym On Em, study Prodigy, because that diss is in my top five, absolutely.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Prodigy Go ahead.
Speaker 1:Coop.
Speaker 2:Mobb Deep went at Pac in 96. Yeah, Like successfully.
Speaker 1:Yeah, successfully. Yeah, ill Magic said morale would have been better if he had more songs like Savior on there. That's fair. K Nicole said what are your thoughts on Drake's Parody to Lie parody on his IG page.
Speaker 2:I think, that nigga needs to stop posting on IG and get his ass in the fucking booth.
Speaker 3:Nah, that got overlooked. To your point, Sean, that one actually addressed some of the angle of Son and Kendrick. You know what I mean as far as, like you know, it was just too short. You know what I mean Because he did it as a parody of the Buried Alive, but a lot of the bars refers to him Son and Kendrick, you know.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. Mad Max says Drake going to fire back on everyone because he viewed as soft. This is his ego and his insecurities. Drake responds to everyone. He, oscar De La Hoya, that's true, that's very true. Tracy G said Drake son him on, buried. A lot of remix, just point that out. Y'all need to go listen. Family matters part two. And thank you, hunch, point that out. Y'all need to go listen to Family Matters Part 2. And thank you, huncho, for the super chat as well. Thank you all for the super chat. We're trying to get to the super chats and keep the conversation going, so I apologize if we're not catching your super chats in live time. We're trying to navigate everything. A lot of great conversation and emotions going on right now. We appreciate all of it. So, fellas, where do we go from here? Where do we go from here? Because right now Drake is. Where do we go?
Speaker 2:We're going to continue to audit these circumstances unbiasedly and properly, because Drake is clearly losing and Kendrick is clearly in the lead. But I'm going to tell you, like one of my homies used to tell me, one dope-ass record will change your whole life, one. It only takes one real actual kill shot to really kill shit, you know. So we haven't, we haven't got that yet. No, we haven't, we haven't got that yet. But I would like to think that this time that drake is taking that, if he doesn't come like, how about this? Never before in this battle, at any stage, have I felt like somebody needed something ether level or take over, or no vaseline or drop a gem, like to sustain, and it's. He does need something of that level, in my opinion.
Speaker 2:And and he might have the record, because you know there are some politics going on behind the scenes, like you know, when you say some of the stuff that Kendrick said and that Drake has said, well, it does stop being about rap to some people. Even if it's about rap between the two of y'all, you got people around you it's like, yeah, we're gonna have to go see about that. You feel what I'm saying and so I imagine that some of the hold up on drake's camp, especially seeing how that's where the quote-unquote leak is coming from. Well, that makes you put a real pause, not pause on your shit for real. You know what I'm saying? Because it's like no, if you got, you got squares up in your circle. You gotta, you gotta handle that biz first. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:No, because you can't have that. I will say this and you can quote me on this. I might be wrong, but I said it before I don't think Drake can win this battle. I said it before. I don't think Drake can win this battle. I said it on like episode episode one or 1.5, because we've never seen this in hip hop history where the top dog also be the underdog. He's the underdog because too many people are rooting for him to lose. They got to move you at some point. Shout out to Taj, that's what you know. To quote her, I don't think, from the position he's at now, he can win, and I said it on the last show.
Speaker 3:You really start to win a battle when you can sway the other person's audience. If Kendrick keeps, you know, coming out with these bops and these records, these hit records that's usually Drake's lane and swaying the casuals that just want to dance and hear good vibes, then you're going to see the tide really shift and then Drake is going to lose. So that's one thing. The other thing is everything ain't got to be a knockout blow. We might be wrong in waiting for the ether level disc from either camp. I agree with you, cooper, your take that Drake needs that, but from Kanye um, kanye shit um. From Kendrick side of things, I don't think he needs a ether knockout level disc at this juncture, because every fight hasn't necessarily been won on a knockout power punch.
Speaker 3:If Kendrick keeps releasing records at this level quality that he's at right now, I just look at that as like a slick combo. I done seen many people get knocked out by a slick combo. You know three, four or five hit joint you on the mat. Well, none of them are power punch, but it was all about the combo and I think Kendrick's in position now to win off the mat. Well, none of them are power punch, but it was all about the combo and I think Kendrick's in position now to win off the combo. Drake is the one who needs the knockout punch if he's going to win this thing. But I don't think he can win because one, too many people want him to lose and two, kendrick is making these bops. That's really Drake's forte and he's going to sway the fans over in his direction with that so that's my take.
Speaker 2:I mean, you have to give it up to kendrick, because my main thing that I've been questioning is does he have this in him? And the reality of matter is is that he still? So kudos to him. That's what I'm saying. I'm going to give it up where it's due.
Speaker 2:The reality of the matter is that, until these last three records, we had no evidence the last seven years that this was still in you. You know what I'm saying. I don't go off what a nigga did. If you go off what? Think about this. Think about who you were in 2017, guys, you going off that rep now you going off of who you was in 2017? That's all I've been saying about Kendrick. It's like, oh no, all y'all talking about this dude, y'all talking about 2017, kendrick, show me Now. He has shown and proven and I'm going to give him his credit for that and he's winning this battle. But if there was a real kill shot, battle would be over already and there's still too much stuff floating around and too many things that haven't been addressed on both sides to say that this is over. But Kendrick's definitely up in the situation with leverage, without a doubt.
Speaker 1:No doubt. Let me get this through a chat real quick, cool. Um, I think AG lost some service. I'll get them back. There you go. Uh, thanks for the super chat, cj said. Justin Hunt said this may be a rollout for a new K-Dot album and all these discs will be on it, and the theme for this album would be how a man with fame falls from grace, making it the first on this album thoughts that's not true.
Speaker 3:See Drake Scorpion. See Drake Scorpion. See Drake Scorpion. That was a whole diss album to Kanye.
Speaker 1:We've seen several all-diss albums. I mean, ja Rule did it when he did the Bloody my Eye joint. Every record on there was a diss record aimed at everybody who was getting at him at that time. I think for me, guys, I look at it like this we are definitely in a different era of hip hop. You know, I try not to compare too much with the era that we came through. You know, we were blessed with the opportunity to see, you know, hip hop since its inception. We were all the three of us were alive when everything was happening, so we saw the variations and the variables and things that happened.
Speaker 1:I think with this one, I'm glad it's happening now because the stakes are high. You know, before the stakes probably wasn't as high. Because if Drake loses this, the question would be is this a chink in his armor or does this take him out the game? We don't know that just yet. We don't know that because he is a huge. He has a huge impact on hip hop. You take Drake out the game. You remove a lot of money from different areas that we're getting money Right, Real talk.
Speaker 2:We have to be honest about that. That's the other side of that coin. Okay, so Sean go ahead.
Speaker 1:No, no, go ahead, go ahead. I want to hear what you have to say.
Speaker 2:Let me piggyback off that you know how many great records and collabs we're not about to get now because this beef has happened yes, dj Khaled is sick right now. Bro and Quavo and Chris Brown, it's over it's over, because here's the reality of the matter, especially what Kendrick did with this last one, with the whole Atlanta colonizer rundown. Oh, that was a crazy scheme right there. That was dope. It was a crazy scheme. No, I loved it. I loved it. It's the best part of this battle to me on some rap shit.
Speaker 3:You're not a colleague, you're a colonizer. That was wild.
Speaker 2:And then how he ran it down to all the Atlanta artists that he had flooded himself to the best. Believe and listen what I'm about to say, as I wear my brave shirt and my brave hat. Oh, all of them niggas down here welcome him with open arms, cause they knew it was good business for them, good for their album, good for their monies, good for their sales, good for their notoriety and all that shit is over. And so a lot of these dudes that quote unquote got a problem with Drake. Like how about this?
Speaker 2:I never questioned where Kendrick, if Kendrick had the capability to stand without Drake, because most of his great stuff don't involve Drake at all. These other niggas talking shit can't say that A lot of your great shit involves Drake. What are you going to do now? How interested are people going to be? What are your numbers going to look like now? Because if I'm Drake, I'm fading on everybody. It's like nope, you can't get a hook. You can't get a verse. You can't get shit. You can't get shit. Just like Oprah gave everybody a car, he taking shit back, you can't get a hook. You can't get a hook. You can't get a hook. You can't get a song. It's changing the landscape Just off of some of the stuff that Kendrick has said.
Speaker 1:Ross can suffer the most from that. I mean, Ross might be done rapping though. Yeah, I think he's done. I think Ross is done rapping. He might be done rapping though. Yeah, A lot of these guys are in the back half of their careers anyhow, so some of them might as well go all out and see what happens.
Speaker 2:But here's the thing about it While those guys are fading, you know who's still gonna be here? Drake like that's what people need to understand in all of this. He's too much of a money maker and a hit maker for this business, which is really where all this hate is coming from. It's coming from a place that he is literally like short of eminem. Yeah, who gets, you know, obviously, a different set of rules because of his whiteness. To be, quite frankly, like nobody ain, nobody did no numbers like this in hip hop like Drake has consistently done the last 15 years. When he's talking about I'm getting close to Michael Jackson's number ones, a dude who raps getting close to Michael Jackson records. So he is leveled up in certain levels, so far above his peers. The hate just going to be there, guys, and that's what people don't understand is they don't even really personally hate Drake. He's just been wildly more successful than all of them.
Speaker 2:Some of the guys that Kendrick was naming. It's like, yeah, but Drake is more successful than all those guys combined, except for Future. You know what I'm saying. You can combine the rest of those guys and they're not as successful as Drake. You know what I'm saying? Like you can combine the rest of those guys and they're not as successful as Drake, like their careers, the numbers, the albums, the sales, the hits. You could put all the niggas that Kendrick bought up and all these niggas coming against them. You could put all of their shit together and it wouldn't equal to what Drake has done. You understand that Correct? You telling me that in a game where money, power and ego run it, that them niggas' ego's not involved, when they see that that nigga got more money, got more power, can pretty much pull up. I mean and this is what I'm talking about can pretty much pull up and fuck your bitch. Yeah. You telling me these dudes like that? Hell, no, they don't like that.
Speaker 3:That shit don't play well on any block in any neighborhood, and hip-hop neighborhood and block is no different, and so it's coming from a place, but that place is hate, hate, hate. Real quick, I want to get y'all's thoughts of uh on the Metro booming like sweepstakes of uh. But now we'll make it a beat and having people freestyle over it, and whoever wins the freestyle over the BBL Drizzy they get a free Metro beat. I mean, I'm not mad at it because Metro don't rap, so this is the only thing he can do. But I thought that was hilarious, man, I thought that was great.
Speaker 1:I thought about rap. I don't like messy stuff. I don't Look, man, yo, you was going to rap to it.
Speaker 2:I thought about it for a second. I thought about it for a second. I was like a Metro beat.
Speaker 3:I was like all the fans would come for you. Coop, like yo you supposed to be OVO Coop how dare you?
Speaker 2:I mean, see, I can't lose. See, what the fans don't understand is that I can't lose in this battle because if Kendrick wins, it just proves me right about all the shit that I've been talking the last three, four years. There are no losses for me. Because if Kendrick wins, it just proves me right about all the shit that I've been talking the last three, four years. There are no losses for me, because if Kendrick wins, I can go back and be like see, told you that shit was whack, look at what he's doing now.
Speaker 3:But you're a gaslighter too, coop, you, the one that be saying like, even when I'm wrong, I'm right Because I got the real right At the, because I could have been right at the end.
Speaker 2:It evens out for me damn right what the dude say on get rich or die.
Speaker 3:Try a movie, you know, it's the Terrace Howard. He say even when I'm wrong, I'm right because I could have been right, but I'm wrong, but I'm right it was crazy.
Speaker 2:I'd rather be wrong about one Drake take than wrong about the four years of Kendrick takes, if we're just putting it in a vacuum. That's what I'm saying. I've been talking shit about how this music ain't been no good for years and the quality of records that he's doing is proving me right. Go compare it.
Speaker 1:Let me get the super chat real quick. We got a couple more that we can get up out of here who it is. Peter Park said Greg needs a Havoc and Conductor beat pack and just get busy with it. Hey look, he needs something, but don't mess that up. You can't go in there and mess that up.
Speaker 3:He needs the release of scary hours like about four or five joints at this point.
Speaker 1:Don't mess that one up. You get a Havoc beat and mess that up we on.
Speaker 2:You See, that's what I mean. Like like he needs to get on his like. For me, it's like, since kendrick's beating you at your game right now, you need to beat him at his game, but that's why I'm acting like he still ain't pushed the red button.
Speaker 3:What is?
Speaker 2:that. That's what I mean when I'm saying it's like no. Bring up the fact that this is the first time kendrick has come out to battle and you've been in here in the trenches battling for years. Bring up the fact that he used to open up for you. Bring up Mike he needs to start off a rap song with the actual Kendrick footage of Kendrick talking about how much he loves Drake. There is footage of that.
Speaker 3:See, that's what I said earlier. That's an old school approach because, since added on, Drake is trying to learn from his mistakes and say okay, I lost the battle from salacious information, so I got to do the same thing to win this battle.
Speaker 1:That's me. He's stumbling because he's overthinking Right, go forward.
Speaker 3:It's all about the salaciousness. Now, exactly.
Speaker 1:Ed or. Ed says Kendrick disses Drake from a position of a moral high ground. Women empowerment is whack because he had Kodak all over the last album.
Speaker 2:And he complained about R Kelly getting taken off streaming services. Kendrick complained about R Kelly being taken off streaming services, but he's running around calling Drake a pedophile.
Speaker 1:People won't talk about that. Shout out to Scott, did we?
Speaker 2:miss that? Did we miss that? Did he not go on the radio like a couple years ago and talk about how R Kelly shit still needed to be up on streaming platforms? But now he's calling Drake a pedophile. It's like you just tried to keep a pedophile, like somebody we know who was a pedophile. You just said something about him not being on radio anymore, and we're okay with it. The best song on your last, and we're okay with it. You just had the best song on your last album had Kodak on it.
Speaker 3:In 2024, we're in an era of fake outrage. People pick a, choose one they want to be upset and outraged about.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. Matt Max said laugh my ass off. I don't know why Drake can't use them. Angles on Dot GoFlo says-Dot won by saying he would mince or Adonis. That was tough, Mad, mad, that was tough. That was hilarious. Dot idolized him who said the N-word and colonized hip-hop culture. And Dot would never come master like that with Drake.
Speaker 3:Speaking of the N-word real quick. I think it was petty and hilarious how drake doubled down on using the n-word after every bar on the second verse of family matters. Did y'all catch that no?
Speaker 2:no, that's what. That's part of why I thought it was the second best diss in this, because it's like he's like I'm doubling down nigga, nigga, niggas, nigga.
Speaker 1:Niggas, I love these comments, I love all the comments, man, all the crazy stuff.
Speaker 2:Think about this. Hold on one second. Who uses the word bitch more, drake or Kendrick?
Speaker 3:Oh, wow.
Speaker 1:Dude man.
Speaker 2:I'm just asking questions.
Speaker 3:This is why I mess with Coop, because he don't care about the victory he do not care.
Speaker 2:I'd be, joking. I'd be like man Kendrick would be out here calling these hoes bitches more than any other rapper. I can appreciate that we got another comment.
Speaker 1:Drake has to dig deep in those dv allegations. Um, yeah, yeah, it's all fair game. At this point, everything is. Everything is out there, you gotta. I just don't want it to get marred in gossip and rumor mill stuff. Yeah, if you're going to go that route, go that route completely. Don't half-step it, just take the gloves off and finish it off. If you're going to go that route Again, there's so much going on. I like gossip rap. I don't like that stuff.
Speaker 1:If you're going to take it there, take it there and move on to the next step.
Speaker 2:Do you remember when people thought that the stuff Nas was saying in Ether wasn't true and that was their way of saying that J1, they're like, but what he's saying not true? Yeah, charlamagne started that narrative, but anyway we found out it was. But then we found out about 95 percent of it was true.
Speaker 1:Years later.
Speaker 2:You're right years later, but but but in the moment people that were taking up for jay was like but that's not true and so that hurts the quality of the record. These, do these same rules not apply now?
Speaker 1:no, someone said drake needs a tevin campbell feature. No, please don't do that.
Speaker 3:That's crazy uh, somebody, somebody said in the comment they have nothing new to offer. Me and Sean had that conversation on the phone earlier today and I think Kendrick is still coming from an angle, even if he's not offering any new information. He's doubling down on stuff he said before. He's still doing it in ways and finding angles, coming up with different bops to still sell you the same narrative. So I think that's where he's coming out ahead in this matter.
Speaker 2:But, um, you remember and nobody.
Speaker 3:He's always been more creative than drake, even though create drake does. Drake is a creative guy. But um, on the uh, on the first person shooter, when uh cole said the spider man meme is me looking at drake, well, I Cole said the Spider-Man meme is me looking at Drake, well, I think now the current Spider-Man meme is Drake and Kendrick both pointing at each other trying to sell an Inquirer headline. You know, salacious headline.
Speaker 1:That's a great, I love that point. And let's not again, let's not give Cole a way out of this. We can't say, oh, Cole, we got you, we understand you moved away from it. No, this is hip hop, cole, because right now, all right, I'm about to get you tight. Because right now, what we're hearing from these two guys, what we're hearing from Kendra, what we're hearing from Drake, cole has the ability to do just as much, if not more, daily, but he bowed out, out and we're saying, oh we glad that Cole bowed out. If you had nothing to hide, keep on moving. He thought he was just doing a rap.
Speaker 2:See, here's the thing the stuff that Drake is being accusatory to Kendrick about, and vice versa. Kendrick can't do that to Cole, and that's where it would change the dynamics of this battle. Kendrick would actually have to come outside and rap-rap, because the stuff that's floating around Drake, the stuff that's floating around Kendrick Cole doesn't have any of that floating around him, so you niggas would have to rap-rap.
Speaker 3:And that's why you're going to stay in it. That's why you're going to stay in it. You niggas can't come up with salacious topics to try to dust me. You just gonna have to dust me, and Cole is mixed as well. So when he take that approach, like yo, we don't like you saying the N word Cole. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:That's the battle we deserve. Honestly, we don't deserve this battle. We don't need this battle. Drake and Kanye that's the battle we probably want to see, because both of them are sassy with it and they're petty with it, so we kind of want to see Kanye and Drake over here somewhere. The real battle is someone like a Kendrick, someone like a Cole, because that will give us I'll put it like this Kendrick fans don't shit on me, if you do, I don't care. I don't play those games, I'm not a podcaster, but here's what I would say I think J Cole has the ability to open up a different book for Kendrick. I think that Kendrick slapping around Drake right now, it doesn't elevate Kendrick's ability to go where he can possibly go, because, right, now what Kendrick's?
Speaker 1:doing is posting. You know what I mean. You are as strong as your opponent. If your opponent is strong, you're going to have to amp up a little bit more. You're going to have to really elevate yourself. We know that Drake is only big in stature, big in name. His brand is bigger than what his output is. Let's keep it what it is. Drake's brand is bigger than what the output is. Right, cole's brand is smaller than I mean. Cole's output is larger than his brand. If Cole had a larger brand matching his output, cole would be able to go toe-to-toe with anybody in hip-hop, no matter what.
Speaker 3:Cole would still lose. Sean, and I'll tell you why Cole is my favorite out of the three. No, he wouldn't Tone. We talked about tone last episode. Tone matters. We heard 7-Minute Drill and a lot of the stuff Cole had to say about Dot. He didn't say it with his chest If Kendrick had to take it there with Cole everything. If Kendrick had to take it there with Cole, everything he said would say about him he would say it with his chest and Cole left that situation feeling conflicted. So even if it was a battle of bars and no salacious stuff, the way Cole talks on tracks, just generally on features like yo, he opened the phone and seen the face of the ask for a feature, see the face of death and all that. He don't say it with the same bravado when he was talking directly to Kendrick on seven minute drill. Kendrick would do that to Cole.
Speaker 2:So you might have a valid point there, but here's what I'll tell you All my points are valid.
Speaker 3:Cool Every time, but go ahead. I don't know about that, I'm not sure about that.
Speaker 2:We're going to go back and do some fact checking after the show Check the tape. We're going to have to check the tape. Here's the disappointing part about Cole. Cole stood the most to gain from this battle. That's why he should have been invested Absolutely.
Speaker 3:He could have went from number three to number one.
Speaker 2:This could have elevated his brand, his status, his legacy, his legend, everything. It's like, yeah, it's like he took Kendrick down. It's like, yep, like he sure did Be, like he's the best. Because really you have to understand for core hip-hop heads, part of the reason why people are hating on Drake so much is that Drake was never in their conversation to begin with. That's what I like to call a public mass conversation when the three of them get put together. Because in those quote unquote true hip hop head circles it's been a colon K dot thing and if you bring Drake up into it, niggas will say we talk about that real rap shit, not about what Drake do. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3:Here's the thing with Cole and I like to cite my sources. Like my girl, she a hip hop head and we was having a conversation one day and I was like I was real frustrated with Cole. I was like so mad when he apologized because I was like yo on every feature. He's saying like you on the best, I mean you know. Then when it comes time to get at somebody, he bows out and weighs the white flag like if he was the best, like you've been popping off for the last three years. Then you need to stand on that. And then she hit me with the like well, maybe he was trying to convince himself All those raps, you know what I'm saying. Maybe he was playing a character. He was trying to convince himself he was number one, because if you listen, he says y'all threw the bronze at me talking about the fans, lebron's at me talking about the fans. You know what I mean. So he's trying to convince himself in a way. I think I'm number one. I feel like I'm number one.
Speaker 2:AG's girl with the psychoanalysis we bought it and she's a Cole fan too.
Speaker 3:Cole's one of her favorites. But I'm like pissed Like yo. You know Cole need to stand on business what he been saying, because when Kendrick step outside he apologized and she was like maybe Cole was just trying to convince himself and he don't really believe it. And that's another thing to add to that boogeyman persona, because Kendrick didn't even have to reply back and Cole was waving the white flag.
Speaker 2:There had to have been some sort of conversation. That happened between them, I agree.
Speaker 1:Yo man, sit this one out. Too much is going on. Sit this one out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, be like that.
Speaker 1:MJ said, a lot of men are showing their insecurities deep down inside. They just don't like Drake. Even if Drake gives you an ether, the fake woke fans will stay safe. That ain't enough. That's whacking, etc.
Speaker 2:Hey look here I told you, man, these niggas in dashikis burning incense and shit, listening to Erykah Badu and Kendrick, you in trouble. You cannot get them niggas to pivot off of anything. Nigga, they are like Hakeem in the post.
Speaker 3:They will not lift it. Sean was doing that earlier today he's crazy man.
Speaker 1:I hear you man wearing beanies, smoking beaties.
Speaker 2:You can't change them, niggas. Don't try to change them, niggas. Shot at all them. Essential oils.
Speaker 1:Yo man, it's not about me right now, man, he could have yo LP said he could have done that, though he could have easily say I rap better, I don't got a muscling and I don't have nothing you can call me out of. He didn't. That's a great point.
Speaker 3:That could have been his angle A great point.
Speaker 1:That's the purity point of hip-hop. Because Cole would be able to come from that purity of hip-hop where he don't have to mudsling or go deep into the water with them.
Speaker 2:He could have forced them to rap-rap. He could have been like nah nigga we doing. He could have been like nah nigga we doing. Like he could have done in battle what Kiss did at the Garden.
Speaker 4:Be like niggas is what Niggas is playing their recorded shit?
Speaker 2:He's like oh, you playing your voice. He's like no, this is the Garden, this is hip hop. We doing these vocals live, right?
Speaker 3:now what up Right?
Speaker 2:He could have pulled that off in the battle.
Speaker 3:But Cole is really Mr Morale if we think about it. He has the best moral compass. He's really a nice guy.
Speaker 2:He's what people think Kendrick is.
Speaker 3:Cole is really a nice guy. I think he's sleeping better these days seeing these two go at it like that.
Speaker 1:He don't have to be involved in it. That bothers me.
Speaker 2:The competitive spirit of it it's like no, get you some insomnia and bring your ass outside Fuck all that, sleeping well.
Speaker 3:He does need to spar with somebody else just to get that out of his system. Who? Yeah, okay, that's an interesting question Okay, if Kendrick does beat Drake, right. Let's just say, kendrick got this W in the back. Does Cole come back outside?
Speaker 1:Come back outside and do what.
Speaker 2:To battle Kendrick. To battle Kendrick. He apologized in front of 50,000 people.
Speaker 1:He looks crazy now.
Speaker 2:He apologized.
Speaker 3:But do you think he could play the angle like yo? I didn't want to get involved in that salacious stuff. Y'all get involved in it, that's just me and you rap.
Speaker 2:Here's the reality of the matter. Because of the behind the scenes stuff and because it's hip hop, people are going to look at him and be like, yeah, but you really wasn't down to be in the streets with it like that, so we ain't fucking with it.
Speaker 3:That's true. And another thing too when Cole was popping off on all them features, I don't think he was literally talking about battling somebody, I think he was. The caveat was if I get on a track with you, I'm going to murder you. I don't think he wanted to smoke in a battle per se, it's not enough.
Speaker 1:It's not enough.
Speaker 3:I agree, but I think that's the perspective he was writing from, Not from. I'll get in the ring with somebody.
Speaker 2:So this is where I'm going to be unbiased. I done got on Kendrick for years for kicking that smoking on your top five shit. No, I don't want to hear that smoking you on your feature shit. You either smoking niggas or you not. What are we doing, anyway? Either way, what you want to do, fam, you want a verse, you want a song, you want an album, I'm going to smoke you. Anyway.
Speaker 1:You need to be smoked, I'm going to roll you up, I'm going to roll you up, I'm going to light you.
Speaker 3:Burn you down. Cole got on the fall off. Cole got to release some kind of conceptual record like Last Real In A Life, breaking down this whole thing, the thought process behind it and where he stands with it now, because he hasn't even did an interview from the apology. So I just really want to know where his whole thought process was with it.
Speaker 1:I don't want to hear his thought process. You know what he needs right now. You say what you said.
Speaker 2:We keep talking about this. Nancy Bass, I'm bringing him up again. You know what he needs. You know the reason R Kelly got away with that shit for so long? Right, because he made Chocolate Factory. Right after that tape came out, that nigga made a banging ass album. That album was crazy. I was like this nigga is singing like his freedom is on the line. It's because his freedom was on the line. This nigga needs a reasonable doubt. Do you understand what I'm saying? He needs a. It's dark and hell is hot. He needs a get rich or die trying. There is no coming off of this. He needs a purple tape.
Speaker 3:I hate to say it, cooper, but people are going crazy over that. Trapped in the closet. People are going crazy over it. He's a liquor store right now.
Speaker 1:Yo trapped in the closet lost me when the midget came out. That's when I was like yeah, I'm checking out of this one, he needs Ignition.
Speaker 2:Ignition Remix Step in the Name of Love. He need all that shit right now. He need to rap in the name of love.
Speaker 1:When the midget came out of the closet, I'm like I don't know.
Speaker 3:if you can say that, so you might need to edit that part.
Speaker 1:I can't say that, right, the little person, the little person came out the closet home. I was like I'm out, are we done here?
Speaker 2:I think Sean made sure we're done here.
Speaker 3:Yo the bars that Drake had about like yo? Is it self-defense if she bigger than you, man?
Speaker 2:Since we're talking about little people.
Speaker 3:that was kind of crazy and he said every bar would be over his head.
Speaker 2:still, that was disrespectful, is what it was. That's what I'm saying Drake's been saying some disrespectful stuff and people like you know he really ain't no lyricist like that.
Speaker 4:It's like oh, you didn't like that.
Speaker 3:Because if Kendrick were to say something like that you would like it yeah and he said no matter what he say, every bar be over his head. That was it.
Speaker 1:I do want to apologize to that community. I didn't mean no harm to the little people. My homeboy is actually a little person and he a good guy All right, we're done.
Speaker 3:Cut the stream. Cut the stream Y'all. Thanks for pulling up. I can't wait for the email from YouTube. We just started getting monetized and Sean will kill it already.
Speaker 2:You're taking your money back.
Speaker 1:Let me get the last couple of super chats. My bad Real talk. He did an audition for the little people in Atlanta. Read the super chats. All right, Don the.
Speaker 3:Super Chats All right boy.
Speaker 2:Don't finish the story. One of my homies was actually on the show because he was dating one of the little girls that was on the show, real talk. No, real talk. I worked with him.
Speaker 3:Stop Y'all doing too much. You said little girls while we're talking about somebody who's getting fetal allegations. Y'all are wilding. Read the Super Chats. We ending the show. You mean physically little, but you said little girls. That sound wild. Coop, All right. We need to read the Super Chats and get up out of here.
Speaker 2:What's the name of the show? Never mind, I'm out.
Speaker 3:Y'all are wild man.
Speaker 1:Y'all are crazy, yeah, but real talk. Pissed him, my man, because he didn't get the part, because he didn't qualify. Why do you All right.
Speaker 2:Hold on, I got a half. Why didn't he qualify? Is he too tall?
Speaker 3:I'm about to log off. I'm about to log off. Yo Don't finish the story, yo, I'm logging off of you, we'll cut that.
Speaker 1:His arms were a little bit longer than what the diameters were, so that's why he didn't get it. But shout out to my man, so he did a good job, though Yo just All right, hold up, hold up, make this last one super fast, we'll get out of here. John's going to get us canceled. Man, my bad man, my bad man, it's all on me.
Speaker 2:Nah, we're just going to take our money. They're just not going to do no ads on this show. That's all.
Speaker 1:I meant that with all respect man, it's all good.
Speaker 2:Definitely going to get Andrew and Stack's got to cut that shit, though, because YouTube is going to fucking.
Speaker 1:Art by Nobody. Says what dot stands. I'm sorry. What dot stands need to realize that there can be a Trojan horse coming from Drake. Drake been wanting smoke. Do you really believe he's done? Hell, no, that's a good point. Ed says let Cole collab with Kendrick. He would have bodied him. His battle is about who's the best, it's more of who can throw the most gossip. That's nasty, but I still might agree with that. Yeah. Yeah, I think we're done. I think we've edited that part. I do want to apologize.
Speaker 1:My man should have got that part real talk he should have got that part.
Speaker 3:Listen. You opened the last show with an apology for being cool. You're going to have to do a legit apology next episode. Go grab them fake glasses, put them joints back on and apologize to the fan base that we might have.
Speaker 1:I'm going to ask my man to pull up and I'm going to ask you to do the apology beside him. We're probably going to see just this part. Let me chill out, yo, but let's get out of here man, thank you for locking up today on this Sunday afternoon, sunday brunch.
Speaker 1:We appreciate y'all. We appreciate all the comments. Thank you for flaming Coop and AG this entire episode. Please keep doing it. Do some more Like, dm them, tell them how you really feel, dm them and let's make sure you show them some love as well on Twitter. Go after their heads on Twitter and if y'all want to battle these guys in a debate, please send me the DM and we can get that set up so you guys can come on camera and debate and not be Twitter fingers or Facebook or YouTube fingers. Come and battle these guys straight up.
Speaker 2:I'm going to tell you guys right now don't listen to Sean and get your ass embarrassed on YouTube. I want to undress you niggas and embarrass you. Don't do that to yourself. Don't fuck around with me. You don't want no part of this, in no debate. Keep on clicking them fingers. That's what's best for you. It's what's best for your reputation. I don't want to embarrass you with your girl watching the show and shit like that. It's all bad. It's not going to be good.
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Speaker 2:Milk and honey, and you don't hop off, neither man.