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EPISODE 9: Trolls, Trump, and Neil's Carnivore Diet: Tackling Online Drama, Trump vs Biden, and Legal Battles

June 24, 2024 Try That Podcast Season 1 Episode 9
EPISODE 9: Trolls, Trump, and Neil's Carnivore Diet: Tackling Online Drama, Trump vs Biden, and Legal Battles
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EPISODE 9: Trolls, Trump, and Neil's Carnivore Diet: Tackling Online Drama, Trump vs Biden, and Legal Battles
Jun 24, 2024 Season 1 Episode 9
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This week, Tully has a new hater, Neil is failing the carnivore diet, and election season gets real with the Trump vs Biden debate coming up. Neil and K-Lo share their legal woes as songwriters and what it's like watching conservative artists try to stick to their guns in today's industry. Finally, the guys talk Caitlin Clark and how K-Lo might be a germaphobe!

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This week, Tully has a new hater, Neil is failing the carnivore diet, and election season gets real with the Trump vs Biden debate coming up. Neil and K-Lo share their legal woes as songwriters and what it's like watching conservative artists try to stick to their guns in today's industry. Finally, the guys talk Caitlin Clark and how K-Lo might be a germaphobe!

Speaker 1:

Exciting news.

Speaker 2:

What Give it to me?

Speaker 3:

I have a new hater. I predict if you stay on this road, you're going to be in a bubble in two years.

Speaker 4:

I don't want to be bubble boy.

Speaker 1:

I've actually been pushed out of a number one picture by a plugger.

Speaker 2:

I have a feeling tonight's going to be spicy. Could be, I do. I feel like it's going to be spicy.

Speaker 3:

There's a little something in the air what makes you say that.

Speaker 2:

Well, I don't know. You've been on a carnivore diet for two days. It's not going very well. It ended tonight, started Sunday and ended today. It was almost 48 hours. I haven't slept.

Speaker 3:

I haven't slept.

Speaker 4:

It's kept me up 48 hours.

Speaker 3:

I haven't slept, I haven't slept. It's kept me up.

Speaker 4:

I'm hungry. Because of the carnivore diet, I'm irritable. Well, thank God, the stress of that's over. Yes, you know.

Speaker 3:

I have to have a carb balance, you know.

Speaker 4:

I have to eat carbs. Why were you all doing that diet anyway? What was the? Didn't you have like a family bet?

Speaker 3:

It's a family bet going on.

Speaker 4:

everybody's putting in a hundred bucks and I think it's like 600 bucks in the pot so you're down a hundred and you bought all the food I don't care, I'll pay the whole 600 if I can have chips and that's true, it's a pretty, it's not a bad trade, yeah well, that's good, we did great.

Speaker 1:

That's a couple days you did great good congrats oh guys well hey, what's good to see you all.

Speaker 4:

You too, I have exciting news.

Speaker 1:

What Give it to me? I have a new hater, which is always fun for me, oh, this would be a great way to start. I mean, we don't have to stay on this very long, but it's been a minute since I've had a good solid hate message. And this guy I'm going to call him out by name because he really aggravated me.

Speaker 2:

You mean his handle or His handle? Okay, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I don't know his name. Yeah, but Stormtrooper 1975. Is that what it is? That's what it is, and it actually makes me sick to my stomach, because that's the year I was born.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, but I like Star Wars Me too. Okay, what?

Speaker 1:

happened? Yeah, but I like Star Wars, Me too. Okay, what happened? Well, he really hit a nerve. We won't have to stay long on this, or we will. So he replied to one of our. Let's see, it was the. You know, Kayla, you were talking to Aldine about when he first heard the song and all that stuff, and this guy chimed in. A couple days ago, Try that in a small town, they did that at your concert. And where were you Running away, dodging the fight like your pal Donald? Or did you get out your gun and put a stop to it? He's talking about Vegas. This guy is.

Speaker 2:

I actually didn't even see that.

Speaker 1:

Whenever this shit goes down, the big-talking Second Amendment, people are running away. You're never there.

Speaker 1:

You called us some songwriting sissy who didn't do shit when the shit was going down. First of all, it is going to get spicy because this guy here, this guy is the problem. This guy is so ignorant to bring up Vegas, like you know what that's like, and disrespectful to the people that lost their lives that night. So usually, like my other hater, I would choose to take the high road, but this guy is a special kind of stupid. So I replied to him Simple really, watch your, your mouth.

Speaker 1:

You don't know shit and people like you are the problem actually well said I think so, yeah, back you on that one, and then again again he, of course he responds well, there was another response. He fired back at me At Tully Kennedy Intelligent people are the problem. Question mark Watch my mouth. Question mark and he goes. What are you going to do? Oh my God, oh yeah, which is again.

Speaker 2:

I mean, you know I hate, I hate.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm going to buzz myself? Because I hate taking part in this.

Speaker 2:

It's hard it is, but when they the.

Speaker 1:

Vegas thing is so sensitive because you know, for one, we had no clue what was going on. Obviously Right, and you know I fired one last item. I said you think you're intelligent? Question mark, you know talking shit about things you don't know. You know, and you crushed him, dude. Well, I really hate even taking part in it.

Speaker 2:

But that is you're right. It does bring up. I think we'll have a an isolated episode where we talk about Vegas a lot and we'll get Jason in and Rich and some of the band, maybe even Brittany, but I tell people this a lot when they ask about it. It's like I can't even tell you because I don't have words to describe what it was like for you to understand and, to your point, you don't know shit.

Speaker 1:

Yeah and not liking our podcast or liking what we're saying. That is completely your right. But you start talking about stuff like that, where you fire at us or Jason about running away and not doing it. It's like, look, none of us are equipped to go through that situation. We're musicians, songwriters, artists, and we didn't know what was going on. Obviously we had no idea. So it is super annoying and, stormtrooper in 1975, you can take a fast track straight to hell. That's my message to you, my friend.

Speaker 4:

Please subscribe for a. Please subscribe, like and subscribe but, there is forgiveness, stormtroopers.

Speaker 2:

I don't know. I told you we were going to get spicy.

Speaker 3:

I don't think I'm not going to don't feel bad about that anyway back to the flat stomach anyway, yeah, it's getting heavy in here I didn't mean for it.

Speaker 1:

No, it's great, it's fantastic it need to be said, but what? You said need to be said. Well, I just you know. Look, come on. I mean, this is the problem social media, though, really is. If you don't look, if you don't like our podcast and don't watch our clips, don't watch it.

Speaker 4:

Well, I don't think they disliked our podcast. I think it was mainly you right. They wasn't our podcast, Right, I mean to be?

Speaker 1:

fair to be fair against all of us? No, to be fair. Your face was the first one on the clip.

Speaker 2:

So you were the cover picture.

Speaker 1:

You, you were the cover picture, you were the cover picture which, but in alphabetical order, it should be Kurt.

Speaker 2:

It should be Kurt, in alphabetical order. Why would it be me, hey guys? So we did the emergency pod.

Speaker 4:

Oh yeah, that was kind of fun.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the weekend review.

Speaker 4:

Any new thoughts on the Trump trial, or I was thinking, you know, we were talking about how this would help Trump and like he'll have a better chance of being elected and things like that, because everybody's going to be so fired up that they're going to go to the polls and vote and everything. I don't know that I feel that way. I know that the people who are going to vote for him are going to vote for him anyway. I'm not sure that something like this I don't see how in the world it could be a positive that would bring other people in.

Speaker 2:

You don't think like independence will?

Speaker 4:

I mean? I don't know If I'm an independent and I'm not. You know, I hadn't made up my mind. I don't know. I don't know if that's going to make me do that or not.

Speaker 3:

I've seen so many people that are on the riding the fence or down the middle and that lean left that know what's going on here now. They're all. They're not stupid yeah and they played them for stupid. But they're not stupid and I've seen so many being interviewed. That says they're definitely voting for trump now because, they the jig's up for the left or for the Biden administration and what they were up to when it came to that. So I think we're in the driver's seat.

Speaker 3:

I think, Trump's in the driver's seat? I really do. I know some people are worried. I know you're a little worried, Tully.

Speaker 1:

I feel good about what you just said, though, and yes, I am worried and was worried, but I do feel good about what you just said, though, and yes, I am worried and was worried, but I do feel good. You brought up a good point. I have to believe people know better. I do have to believe that because, because I talked to you guys before we started the podcast tonight and I was saying I'm worried about the independents that maybe were on the fence, and is this enough to push them off the fence the other way? But, neil, you brought up a good point. I have to believe that everybody sees through this, and I still believe that people are less worried about something that may or may not have happened years and years ago than they are about that they can't afford things. That's it to me.

Speaker 2:

That is it to me, I think that you know.

Speaker 1:

So I brought my kids out to dinner last night just the three of us $120 for basic. It wasn't like we went out to a steakhouse or anything. It was you know basic stuff and I was like you know what this is at a place we go often Right, and just a few years ago it was $30 cheaper.

Speaker 2:

I don't know how people are surviving. I really don't like a middle class or lower middle class family of four. Like how, how are people doing that? I?

Speaker 1:

don't know, it's really. But I think, neil, to your point, I do believe that people see through that and they are more concerned about taking care of their families than they are about smoking mirrors and trying to keep Trump off the election trail and campaign trail, I should say. But anyway, I mean, I feel better now, neil, good, I'm going to have a drink. Good, good, well said, I was better now, neil, good, I'm going to have a drink.

Speaker 2:

Good, so you know. I was asking this and we can go here or not, but do you guys think Biden is going to be the actual nominee?

Speaker 3:

No.

Speaker 2:

You don't. No, because I actually don't think so either.

Speaker 3:

I don't think no, they're going to make up some sickness that he came down with and he's going to disappear supposedly in the hospital and he's out. They can't, he can't run, they can't let him run.

Speaker 4:

That's a popular idea.

Speaker 2:

I guess it's a popular I don't know if it's a conspiracy theory, but I kind of subscribe to it because I just don't see how that wins To your point and all of that. I just don't know how that wins to your point and then all of that. I just don't know how that gets votes.

Speaker 1:

See, I think they're riding that horse all the way and you. You might be right, I hope, I hope they are. I think that's the whole thing about going tooth and nail in with this, with this sham in Manhattan, the whole thing, like you know, pushing that. I just don't see, and maybe I'm naive in that way.

Speaker 2:

I just feel like we're we're into june, yeah, you know well, they're supposed to have the debates, or their first debate, at the end of the month and I don't know. I just see like if he tanks, don't do the old, I don't know who do you guys think shows?

Speaker 4:

up, then I don't I feel like honestly I think I think trump's best uh chance is if biden stays in I think almost if anybody else comes in, almost anyone. They win. They're the shiny new penny? Well, I don't, and it's going to be really difficult for you know. If you just put up a standard, you know guy or girl without a record.

Speaker 3:

You think that many. If they got somebody new in there, you think that many people would change their vote from Trump to Duke.

Speaker 2:

I'll tell you this, if it's.

Speaker 3:

Michelle.

Speaker 4:

Obama, I'd say so, but the independents might lean.

Speaker 3:

I think it's so lopsided.

Speaker 2:

now I think, if it's Michelle Obama, I think people change.

Speaker 4:

I think Trump loses.

Speaker 2:

Yikes is right.

Speaker 1:

I don't want it to happen but yeah, I agree, she said she wasn't going to come in it might not be. Neil, you brought up a great point on the emergency podcast.

Speaker 3:

Teach my wife those words.

Speaker 1:

Neil, you brought up a great point, something we haven't talked about yet, which was interesting. You were talking about Trump and you were saying you know, basically you get that people don't like his personality and, to be fair, I don't like his personality. I met him and it was really awesome, yeah, but I can see why. I personally was hoping he'd be and I know he's not a politician but when he was elected in 2016, I was hoping he'd be a little more presidential in the way he talked, and I certainly didn't like the Twitter war with LeBron James and all that stuff. I don't want to see a president doing that right. Yeah, I like Trump, but more than anything, I like the policies and, neil, you brought up a great point. You don't have to like him, it's the policy. Do you hate him enough to you?

Speaker 3:

know, Is he a winner or is everybody better off? That's the thing. Is everybody better off? People hated Nick Saban. They couldn't stand him. They couldn't stand him when he got behind the thing. Is everybody better off? People hated Nick Saban. They couldn't stand him. They couldn't stand him when he got behind the mic.

Speaker 2:

They just couldn't stand him, but that son of a bitch won. He was a winner. And the thing about Trump, too, is that, yes, he is very transparent. Yeah, he's not a politician. So you get that he's not, and most politicians know how to say what they think the right thing is. Oh, he's very likable. Oh, he's very presidentialist.

Speaker 3:

It's a popularity contest most of the time, but yet I mean, is Joe Biden a good person?

Speaker 2:

Oh no, he's the worst, right. But you know that's on the outside. You know, of course not now, but he's a politician, so it's like it's a popularity contest, to your point.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I'm losing followers.

Speaker 2:

Well, and we might be all losing followers.

Speaker 4:

So on that point, everything. So. So today, and I'm not sure when, this, this podcast may be a couple of weeks behind when it comes out, but but as of today, and and recording, uh, they were selecting the jury, you know, for hunter, biden and uh, and so do we believe. I mean, first off, it's kind of interesting, as you think about, when they pick the jury for you know, for you know, president donald trump 12 crackheads, yes, you can have.

Speaker 1:

You can have hunter's best friend somebody's dealer, somebody good Hunter owes crack to.

Speaker 4:

So, anyway, you're already kind of thinking about that. But if we can kind of agree, do we think that Joe Biden or the Biden family, have they done something or something in the past that you and I would be arrested for, even for a little bit?

Speaker 2:

Is this a rhetorical question?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, it's just a question Like do you think yes, okay, so yes, I'm going to mark yes so we can say that the Biden family somewhere in there, they're criminals, right, of course. Right, yeah. So now Trump, he's convicted, also right, so we're at zero. So now you're voting for a criminal or a criminal, which one do you want? So they're at zero. So to me it's kind of a fair field. But they care about what's on paper.

Speaker 1:

See, they're not going to let that tag go to corn pop. They're going to that tag. They wanted to hang that over. Trump Convicted felon whatever.

Speaker 2:

I 1,000% agree. Those are the words.

Speaker 1:

But to Neil's point, I do think we're saying that a lot.

Speaker 4:

This is an unusual Neil you are rocking this episode.

Speaker 2:

It must be the diet, it's true, I feel way better about it now it must be, the tequila yeah.

Speaker 1:

I think people will see through it. I do think that you have to see through it. You have to.

Speaker 3:

If you paid any attention to it, there's not that many naive people in this country.

Speaker 1:

Now I will say I'm talking about true patriots. There's not.

Speaker 3:

They're not as stupid as the left makes them out to be.

Speaker 1:

But I still know the same people before that hated Trump, and a lot of these are older americans too, and they they're not voting for him this time. They do not like him and there's nothing that will change their mind, and that worries me a little bit. Like we need those people. We need everybody to see what's happening and how far we've we've fallen here.

Speaker 2:

Oh there's. There's a boatload of never Trumpers there, that's for sure. But in an interesting way, I feel like this is kind of flipped. I feel like there were people that didn't want to vote for Trump in 2020 because it was just like oh, I just can't do it anymore. I feel like that's happening with Biden this year. I think people are going to go. I just can't do it, I can't do it.

Speaker 1:

Maybe a lot of people get in there and secretly vote for. Trump, because, I agree, you can't look at it and tell me things are better. No, I mean, that's For your families, or?

Speaker 2:

That's actually indisputable.

Speaker 1:

You know what I mean. And we're not safer. We're way less safe. I'm safer Well and even now he's going to sign an executive order about the border and everything now.

Speaker 4:

And if people would just wake up and realize are you kidding me? You know so. So now, how many million now have been illegally across and for for three, three and a half years just just letting everybody come over? But now he realizes, okay, my numbers are down on the border, we got the election coming, so I'm gonna do an executive order. Yeah, I'm gonna show people that I care about the border and I'm gonna I to put a stop to this. They're already here. People that want to hurt us are already here Not everybody, but they're coming from so many different countries that do not like us.

Speaker 4:

And so why just now? So if you're somewhat of an average thinking person, you would know it is all political. And as far as him being and he can't cognitively be president and I'm not bashing him, I mean I pray that I get to that age but he is not mentally fit to run the greatest country in the world, he's just not. He doesn't know where he is a lot of times and he shakes hands with the air. He doesn't know where to go. He falls down going up to Air Force One multiple times.

Speaker 2:

It's actually not even fun.

Speaker 1:

Not with those new shoes, not with those fancy new shoes he's got.

Speaker 4:

I know, but I'm definitely not making fun of him because he's old, you know, because he's somebody's granddad and he just doesn't need to be running the country, you know.

Speaker 3:

Well, shame on them for parading him out there, because it's gotten to the point too.

Speaker 1:

I'm like it's not even funny anymore, they keep parading him out there. They do. I like it when he tries to run. That's my favorite.

Speaker 4:

No, it's the walk-run, it's like when you trip on a crack in the sidewalk and you kind of run it off to make it look cool.

Speaker 3:

That's what he does all the time, and then you start to feel sorry for him a little bit. Well, you only laugh because it's good for your head and oxygen.

Speaker 4:

You're not really laughing at him. It's just healthy to laugh. They say it's healthy, and that's the only reason we're laughing, come on.

Speaker 3:

But going back to what you asked, it's like there is a chance. I mean, they'll invent some sort of illness and they'll have him step aside. I don't even know if they have to invent it.

Speaker 4:

Yeah well, you got Dr Fauci's back, you don't have to invent one.

Speaker 1:

It's a little way, oh Fauci, I want to know what I want to know is what they give him before he debates or does a State of the Union, because he is oddly sharp. Oh yeah, I mean Caleb's eyes don't blink.

Speaker 4:

I need that before my co-writes.

Speaker 1:

I know it. Imagine how clear we'd be.

Speaker 3:

I would like to know what they're giving him. That's amazing. Because, if we did that before each writing session.

Speaker 2:

That's Adderall on stun.

Speaker 1:

But he's. Yeah, you're right, Neil, they keep rolling him out there.

Speaker 3:

I don't know. Boys, I feel slightly better, but then I have peaks and valleys of emotion. I hate sometimes. I hate talking politics and this shit.

Speaker 4:

I hate it well and we always try to bring it you know, bring it back around, you know, to us and and things that we know.

Speaker 4:

You know because, like we've talked about before, we're not talking heads or political pundits anything like that, far from it, and so I'm just thinking about the legal system and how messed up the whole trump thing is and all the trumped up things. Pardon the pun, but, um, you know, the legal system in america needs a lot of work and tort reform and everything, and neil and I were talking about it today have been caught up in that to where, and it's it's weird that you're in America and that people can sue you for anything Like Neil and I both have been sued in the songwriting community before. There was songwriter insurance before all the infringement claims and things like that, and both of us have paid a hefty price in different circumstances and then, because of me, even though ours has been long gone I can't say anything about it still to this day. That's just part of it. It's part of the thing.

Speaker 2:

Yours may be different, but so you can't tell us a song?

Speaker 4:

No.

Speaker 2:

What I can't, I can't.

Speaker 1:

It's just one of the it's one of the number ones that I've supposed to talk about it.

Speaker 3:

Really, I don't remember. Was that in line? I don't think so. It wasn't tics.

Speaker 4:

It wasn't tics, but the point is so one of 17.

Speaker 2:

The point is one of 17. But the point is Was it? I know it wasn't a small town, one of 16.

Speaker 4:

Guys, let me tell my story. Okay, sorry.

Speaker 2:

Go, let me tell my story.

Speaker 4:

Okay, sorry, go ahead. So, anyway, it's just the thing of the fact that anybody can say anything they want and say you took this from me and there's no evidence or nothing like that, but you have to spend sometimes hundreds of thousands of dollars to prove that you didn't. And it's amazing, I mean, and I know Neil went through the same thing. I'll let you tell your story because I think you can tell a little bit more.

Speaker 3:

I don't want to talk about it anymore.

Speaker 4:

But, both of us thinking about.

Speaker 2:

Did you have to sign an NDA too?

Speaker 3:

No, I'll tell every damn thing I know.

Speaker 4:

Well, tell yours, tell yours, Tell your story.

Speaker 3:

I was just some numbnut, lived in New York, wrote a Pat Benatar song back in the 90s, sued me and Wendell and Jada Marcus for an album cut on Rascal Flatts. Just out of the blue, just with no proof. No, nothing, we just got accused.

Speaker 1:

Maybe it was actually J he actually.

Speaker 4:

And was it was yours, it wasn't even like lyrical or really melodical.

Speaker 3:

No, no, it was the solo right. It was a guitar lick that was like the melody line of that chorus or whatever, which we didn't even write.

Speaker 4:

It wasn't even in their demo. The musicians did it on tracking day.

Speaker 2:

So, because of the on-site guitar player who gets paid through the union, the solo he played you got sued as a songwriter.

Speaker 3:

Yes, yes, wow.

Speaker 4:

And they didn't even write that they got sued for something else.

Speaker 3:

they didn't even write it, it got drug out and it got bad and and we all decided to, you know, use the same attorney and and have this class action settlement thing, and it was just a freaking mess and it it turned into a mess and it got to the point where I thought I was going to have to sell my house. Oh, my gosh, oh yeah, it got bad. Same, I mean they held royalties for me for five years and, unfortunately, I was at the same.

Speaker 4:

I had been at the same company my whole career at the time. So they didn't just hold the royalties of that one song.

Speaker 1:

They withheld all my royalties, yeah, so so that was so.

Speaker 4:

So then you've lost 60 of your family income for five years. Five years. And what's interesting too and we didn't talk about that this morning as songwriters, when you sign your your uh, your deal, uh, you indemnify the publisher, meaning if something like this happened, that they, you hold them harmless right, and that's just in every songwriter agreement. That there is what's kind of interesting about it is, let's say, somebody did take a song right and they were found guilty. The writer has to pay all this money and the writer pays all of the attorney's bills for the publisher also right, whether guilty, innocent or you dismiss it or whatever, but the publisher gets to keep all of the money they earned on the stolen song.

Speaker 2:

Really.

Speaker 4:

They get to keep it all and the writer has to pay everything, but then the publisher, they get to keep everything.

Speaker 1:

That's good to know, isn't it? Get to keep everything, so we lost, no, isn't it?

Speaker 4:

we lost two to we. Well, we lost two to no no, not. Both lost two to three times more than we ever made on the song so it's beyond being penalized.

Speaker 3:

Y'all wouldn't be laughing if you know how much I know no it actually isn't funny at all.

Speaker 1:

It's not funny at all. We were yeah, you know it's, it's, it's not.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I'm kidding, I'm kidding, kidding, no it's not funny, it's gone and it's in the past. I had to do some hard soul-searching and praying and I had to go to the Bible and I had to find out what I'm supposed to do in this situation, because it got down to the wire we're going to sell the house. I'm going to sell all my stuff just for an album cut. It wasn't even a single.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, that's those were the dark years we even offered to give. It affects your whole life.

Speaker 3:

I even offered like we'll give you every penny that we made on this album.

Speaker 2:

Cut, you know, because so you got sued for much more than that song made.

Speaker 4:

Oh, it's the legal expenses. That's what it is.

Speaker 2:

It was an album cut.

Speaker 3:

That's what gets you is the legal expenses All I had was mechanicals.

Speaker 4:

So my share of just trying to get and this was only 30 days in of just trying to get it dismissed, my share, with three writers and three publishers, was $85,000 in 30 days Jeez, it went on for five years.

Speaker 1:

If someone sees an opportunity to take money from it is amazing how low people can go.

Speaker 2:

And that's the problem is that people do that they look for. I mean they find ways to skirt the system. And just how do I make a quick buck?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, and sometimes it's just the matter of people being uneducated. You know like sometimes I mean, if you live in Oklahoma, name one of your big hits just off the top of your head Trouble with Heartbreak. Trouble with Heartbreak. Do you think anybody else in the world has ever written a song called that?

Speaker 1:

I don't know. Our titles are pretty good, they're pretty original. I'm kidding, I'm kidding there, that's what I thought too. That's what I thought too. I'm kidding, I'm kidding, it's a joke.

Speaker 4:

There were writers that had been sued before before me and they said, yeah, I got sued on this. But I was thinking honestly. I was thinking, well, you know what my ideas are so good and so unique? Nobody's ever going to step on mine. Well, there was a song called Don't Forget to Remember Me, which me and Ashley Gourley wrote with Morgan Hayes for ended up being for Carrie Underwood. That was one of her number ones. Anyway, after that went number one, I was just kind of Googling. I thought, man, my ideas are good. I'm going to Google that just to make sure nobody's ever thought of that, because I was so proud of myself and I Googled it and that was a number one for the Everly Brothers back in 1950.

Speaker 1:

Is that right and I?

Speaker 4:

thought well, maybe I'm not so original after all, now that many years too long ago.

Speaker 4:

No, but still. My point is we all kind of think of the same things. Unless you have a song called John Deere Green or something that's super unique, it's very possible somebody else out there has written it. So if somebody would have come to town two to three years or five years before you wrote that song, before it came into your head, and they came through and they pitched their song around and it was called If I Didn't Love you, or if it was called Trouble of the Heartbreak, they would be thoroughly convinced that you somehow got a hold of it and stole it, and they would be really convinced. So they're not really trying to do something, they really firmly believe it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but to win that kind of battle, it's got to be more than a title. No, no, I'm just saying they, the individual.

Speaker 4:

It's not just that a lot of times people, oh, they're just scumbags. No, I'm just saying people honestly sometimes believe it just because they're uneducated. Now here in town we realize that we write all the time and and I pitch you guys an idea and you say, oh, I wrote that last week. And I'm thinking, dang, I've never heard that. And said, said yeah. And somebody else said, yeah, I wrote that some people have integrity, some don't yeah, that's true again that.

Speaker 2:

Hey, there's a lot of people out there that will.

Speaker 3:

There's and there's a lot of attorneys out there that will bring a suit about somebody that has no merit whatsoever but doesn't matter. Once they file it, you have to start defending yourself and then you're screwed.

Speaker 2:

Songwriters can get screwed so easy well, and we're continuing to get screwed and you know, I think we want to go to the spotify issue, but it's, yeah, yeah, it's a tough, it's a tough business but to finish up that it was like when I, when I just did what the lord told me to do, pay for it and get it out of your life.

Speaker 3:

I've got this, I did and it was, and then, six months later, it was like it never happened. I started getting cuts and singles again and I forgot all about it.

Speaker 4:

And another thing, since it's a night that we're all giving Neal accolades for his wise words.

Speaker 3:

Another great point by me, another classic Neal.

Speaker 4:

He did tell me because he had already went through his lawsuit and everything. I called him and talked to him. He goes, well'm gonna tell you, tell you one thing, one thing that's true, and I said, I said what I thought it's gonna be this, you know, it's gonna make me feel great and alleviate all the pressure. He goes ain't nobody gonna give a shit about what you're going through. He goes not your publisher, not your buddies, not your co-writer, nobody's gonna give a shit. And I didn't really believe it. He was 100 right.

Speaker 3:

You were absolutely alone the ones that you were supposed to be your music family and your, you know, your publishing partner and we're all in this together. Bullshit, it's like that went away instantly, but they don't have a problem running up on stage when you get a, get an award at ascap and they don't know. They're sprinting up there and smiling, putting their arm around you. Those same people will disown you the next day when you get sued.

Speaker 1:

I've actually been pushed out of a number one picture by a plugger. Excuse me, do you mind if I get in here?

Speaker 1:

I know you did nothing on the song and didn't write it or pitch it but oh, that's good, you know it's your one night a year, I know. But uh, that's good, that's a true story. Wow, yeah, true story. Uh, who are you? It was. I'll never forget it was. It was, uh, tipping on back song for dirks. Didn't go. One went like two or three or something, but I got my first BMI award as a writer for it. I'm up there and the picture that ended up I'm in the third row behind a line full of publishers. That's a big night for them. Screw the writers. They wanted that night, but it was anyway.

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Speaker 3:

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Speaker 4:

We touched on the emergency session you know about and Neil was talking about this earlier about how they can actually, you know, not just recording that song, you know, try that in small town and standing up for the song and all that and what he believes. He's the only artist that we know of that. Actually, the word Trump comes out of their mouth like period, which is really interesting. And another interesting thing is that, being on the conservative side, which the majority of the country music listeners are on the conservative side, which the majority of the country music listeners are on the conservative side, and why, as an artist, you would be leery of saying something that the majority of your fan base would be in line with. It's interesting. And then, but like we talked about last and Tully said this, or Kurt or both, about a lot of the music industry is leans left and so the artists are not going to generally, they're not going to do that. However, if let's say and this is hypothetical, ok, as we were talking about this a little bit and if an artist wanted to come out and go to a, like a transgender rally, let's say, right, nobody's going to prevent that, they're going to support that. So, yes, yes, definitely go do that, which the majority of the country music fan base probably wouldn't be in line with. That, you know, politically, socially or whatever. However, if you, if they wanted to go to a Trump rally, it says hell, no, no, no, you don't need, don't get caught up in that, don't get caught up in what the whole fan base is caught up in.

Speaker 4:

It's just kind of it's so backward Even for a business-wise. It's odd. So why is that? I don't know. I just think it's odd. So why is that? I don't know. I I just think it's. They're scared of the powers that be. It's, it's that and it's. It's things that I can't understand for a hundred dollars, alex, you know it's, and I've had disagreements with you know, with artists about certain things that they want to go do this thing, and I'm like, well, god, if you do that, everybody knows who you're voting for and, and most of your list, most of your fans, I don't think voted for that person spot because it's it's it's career suicide.

Speaker 3:

Either way, yeah either way you. You go to a pride parade, march in a pride parade and you're a country music artist, your fan base is going to start dropping off the planet. If you go to a trump rally, then the executives and pirates that be that run your career they're going to disown you start dropping off the planet. If you go to a Trump rally, then the executives and pirates that be that, run your career.

Speaker 4:

They're going to disown you, so you're screwed, you're a loser either way. It's just a tough spot For me it's those things that kind of boggle you a little bit is that there are so many people in country music that we're learning as time goes on that you think, I guess, as an excited country music they were learning as time goes on. You know that you think like, I guess, as a excited country music fan. I mean, you're a fan first, then you come and and then you write songs and stuff, but you're still fan of country music and everything. And we think that you know, you're kind of, you know you're all on the same team, so to speak, and we're all, we all kind of think alike and it's really fun. We got this really really big team, but it's interesting that in country music they're just not many of us.

Speaker 3:

It doesn't seem like there's a lot, but actually in the business there's a lot of conservative artists in country music. They're just, they're just, they're, they're of the mind, just shut up and sing, don't say anything. They're not like jason. They're not at all like Jason, he's like man. He walked out on that ledge, buddy, he did and he's out there and he hasn't paid the price for it. They tried to kill him. They tried to kill our song.

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

You know what's funny though.

Speaker 3:

Fan base is strong man.

Speaker 1:

Well, but Jason has the backbone and he's willing to pay the price. Because he has paid a price like since our song came out, like we haven't been on TV, our song didn't get nominated for an award, didn't win awards, oh but we, we did win a big award in my book we did.

Speaker 1:

but I'm saying like we used to play a lot of, you know, tv shows late night shows, early morning shows and it's concerning, or it should be concerning, that we put a song out just how we believe and that they can say it doesn't line up with what we believe in the media and the networks, so we're not going to let you play in these shows anymore.

Speaker 3:

You know what I would ask you and Jason and everybody else. I would go. What's more important, jimmy Kimmel or the fans? That's not even about who's more important.

Speaker 1:

Well, the fans are the most important thing, of course, but that's not even what it's about. It's about the fact that they can play their part in squashing you. We're going to take it to the fans and we're going to win every time, but the fact that they can say, no, we don't like this and we're not going to let you play in these shows anymore, after we played these shows for years and years and years and done really well and always had support, and it's frustrating and, believe me, all we care about is the fans. That's why this song came out. But it's interesting how they can say, uh-uh-uh, you don't line up with what we're trying to do. The narrative we want to spin yeah, and so we're not going to let you play in these shows and it does suck. We used to love playing foul and we'd go up there and have a good time. It is a bummer not to, but it's not. Obviously, we're going to do our thing.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and it works the same with us. There's going to be a lot of corporate gigs that they hire songwriters for that we're not getting hired for. Kalo already had one where he was asked not to sing that song at a corporate gig and we don't have to name who the corporation was. I'd love to.

Speaker 4:

No, no, we don't need to.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, they deserve it. They deserve it Well, but you and I think a little bit differently on this, Because I would have said if I would have been, if I would have showed up at a corporate gig to do a writer's round and the person in charge asked me not to sing that song, I would tell them to go F themselves.

Speaker 4:

I'm going home and if I were with you and we were on that show together. I would say he didn't mean that. What he meant.

Speaker 1:

By F f you.

Speaker 4:

He said friend, yeah, he said, he said he said friend, we would very much like to play that, but if it's offensive to you or your group, we definitely won't do it well, it's because we, we do think a little bit differently and like, like, for me, I, I just feel like in for a corporate thing, they, they've, they've hired you because they they want their people to have, have a good time and all the stuff. I'm not there. If they think I'm there to make a statement, you know, then it just kind of goes against that and you know, I just feel like we're there to please the client, you know. So I don't like that. They won't allow us to play it, mainly because it's the newest hit. So you're taking a big arrow out of your quiver.

Speaker 4:

So it's kind of disappointing Dang. I wanted to play them the new one, so they'll know I'm somewhat relevant and I haven't had a hit in the last few years, so we think a little bit differently on that.

Speaker 1:

They need to do their homework before they hire me I do feel bad for the young artists who do have a backbone, because they're in a tough spot. It's hard to be a young artist You're not making any money, you're losing money to play. I don't think people realize that when you see a new artist play and opening up for someone like us or even when we were opening up for Rascal Flatts and all these people and Toby Jason's not making money, he's losing money. Right, they're out there trying to build a career in a different kind of environment. You know politics are so.

Speaker 1:

It's so polarizing today that it's not just about music anymore. If you want to make a statement as a young artist, it's hard to do that and be smart and be like okay. Well, the industry and the labels, which the fans probably don't realize they're very left-leaning, you know, which is very I think it was kayla when you were talking about this like the crowds are all middle america, where america, but the industry is so far left so they are controlling what the new artists get to put out. It's tough for new artists. It's like you want to have a career but you want to play ball. You want to. You want to support your family, you want to support yourself and pay your band and pay your. It's really challenging.

Speaker 3:

That's what pisses me off so much. It should piss everybody off, Because if you want to just flaunt your left-leaning liberal ideology as an artist, it's quite okay. You're not going to pay a price at all. In fact, they encourage it. That's what pisses me off. If that's the kind of artist that you want to be and that's what you believe in and you want to flaunt it on stage and you want to flaunt it in interviews or whatever, it's never going to hurt you ever. That's what pisses me off.

Speaker 1:

It's because this town a music row and I'll say it, I'm probably going to get ran off the road tonight by someone on the way home, but it's in a bubble. They are completely disconnected, and always have been, from the people that we go play for well, and I think you're 100% right, but this also extends to Hollywood.

Speaker 2:

It's the same kind of thing like if you're a conservative actor in.

Speaker 2:

Hollywood. You can't let your of course you know, you can't let that be known because it's so left and most of these big tech, big media people are left and to your point. It's like if you have a conservative opinion for whatever reason, we feel squashed. Just you know you can't, don't voice your opinion. Just don't rock the boat here because, like you said, I'm like especially for new artists or a new actor it's like you're just trying to put money on the table, you're trying to feed your family yeah yeah, you want to have a career that lasts longer than two strongs.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, two songs on spotify yeah right so so but it is very concerning.

Speaker 1:

I mean, if you think about it, you know why. Try that in a small town works so well and we saw it connect every night. Jason, we said on the first podcast or the second one, I can't remember at this point, but how he's so dialed into his fan base and the response from our fans and from country music is so great. But yet the people that are supposed to be behind us, it's completely opposite. Everybody's trying to squash it. Success. They're trying to squash success and it's building. It's such a crazy thing to think the song's exploding, oh no, the song's exploding, oh no.

Speaker 3:

The song's exploding. What can we do to kill the song?

Speaker 1:

Don't talk about the song. Don't ruffle feathers, don't start your podcast.

Speaker 2:

Don't ruffle feathers, don't bring it back up.

Speaker 1:

It is weird, and it's kind of strange to even talk about it like this, because it's completely unfair, right, but the media is so controlled, the labels, entertainment in general is so left that they're really controlling it and to put it on Jason, that's our guy, that's our secret weapon.

Speaker 3:

He's going to say what he thinks he's a stud.

Speaker 1:

And, believe me, he takes his shots. He's taken to say what he thinks. He's a stud and he, believe me, he takes his shots. He's taken them this week, you know, for supporting Trump and after the verdict, and it's like, look, you know, everybody has a right to think what they want to think, but you can't try to silence people for their opinion. What are we doing?

Speaker 2:

and you know it's weird is that that thought right there, like for some reason it seems like such an obvious thing to say. But why isn't it? It's like? So what he supports trump, why shouldn't he be able to exactly?

Speaker 1:

it's a basic.

Speaker 2:

It's a basic thought yeah, like that's scary to me is that that's become a thing like oh, don't say, don't say don't, don't, don't say that yeah, don't again.

Speaker 4:

Why isn't that weird? It's, it's really weird, your whole fan base it is like you.

Speaker 2:

Actually, it's a very oh, we're talking.

Speaker 1:

We're talking about something that feels so basic and really always has been. It wasn't that long ago where you could talk politics, laugh about it, yeah, I mean, you'd argue but it wasn't this to where you feel shunted.

Speaker 4:

Don't, don't, yeah, don't do it, don't, do it, yeah well, and even like you lose radio, even like, uh, some of the some of the artists you know, like obviously we know where aldine stands some of the artists you don't know where they stand, and that's fine too, it's great, just you know be an artist, do your music and it's fantastic, yeah, do that, but there, but there are some.

Speaker 4:

Um, it's just interesting, like for listeners out there, just over the course of time, or even go back, start listening to some of the lyrics. You know, just just that's all you got to do is start listening and every now and then you'll hear something you'll think, huh, I've let that kind of pass by you know, I'm not.

Speaker 4:

I wonder about that a little bit, and it is kind of funny that you have artists uh, they're, they're also very liberal and but they sing. They sing very right songs, you know, down the middle, middle america, but they actually don't even believe that way. And that's the thing that'd be hard for me. Like if I were, if I didn't identify with my audience, it'd be really hard for me to to make my life about selling that, you know, to people that I don't align with. Wouldn't that be like incredibly tiring and stressful? You know what I mean.

Speaker 4:

No, it wouldn't be Like for example, like if it's different, like if you drive NASCAR, you know we're not selling people cars, we're just selling them that we're a great driver who cares what you're. But some of the artists are actually selling an audience on the fact that, hey, I'm like you, but they're totally not. It just seems like it would be very tiring being just that insincere.

Speaker 1:

Who are you talking about? Who are you talking about Name, somebody Name some artists.

Speaker 4:

Well, I'd like to start by naming. We're going to go to a break right now. We'll be right back.

Speaker 2:

But you're right, I do think. If said artist has a hit on that, I think people tend to see through that, whether it's now or eventually? Yeah, and on the opposite side. That's why Jason has had a very long career. Because you believe him Doesn't even matter if you very long career because you believe him, it doesn't even matter if you agree with him, you believe him. That guy means what he's saying.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, knowing what somebody believes is a huge thing, Like you said. Whether you like it or not, it's like, hey, I like that guy or that girl because at least I know what they believe and they own it. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

And we'll see whose careers last longer too.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, hey, I was going, they believe and they own it. Yeah, well, and we'll see whose careers last longer too. Yeah, hey, I was gonna ask uh kurt, so you, so you're indiana fan, you've?

Speaker 2:

you know, caitlin clark, you know I am a caitlin clark fan fan you know and she is, and I haven't really been watching.

Speaker 4:

I just kind of see the blurbs, you know, and watching the news and stuff and you see it, see all the stuff and you watch the highlights and things like that. Have you been keeping up with it enough? Like she's one of the greatest college players, right, you have all time put up all the historical numbers. Then she goes to the w? Nba and is doing great but is getting pushed around. I mean she's literally yeah and uh, just just almost like a football style. I mean I would never. You don't see things like that oh, are we going there um.

Speaker 2:

So what do you?

Speaker 4:

think as a because the, the, what I saw and I'm not sure, the other, um, the other team, but apparently they've been going back and forth. So you know, and just competitive, you know people are going to get fiery, you know and and kind of check you and she's a rookie, you know. So she, by nature of that, you know you should take a little bit of razzing and a little bit of hey, this is, you know.

Speaker 2:

You know, what bothers me a little bit about it, or upsets me, is that they've man, she's catching a lot of heat and she's caught heat. There's been people that come out and say she's getting attention because she's white and straight no, of course.

Speaker 1:

Okay, here we go. Yeah, it's so, not the, not the fact that she james three is like steph curry.

Speaker 2:

She shoots like steph curry. We have never seen a woman basketball player play like she has she may I?

Speaker 1:

I told you when they were playing for the championship. Yeah, I watched a woman's college basketball game for the first time.

Speaker 2:

That's not anything against women's basketball, it just Well but that's it, because it's something you've never seen before in the women's game and that's why people tuned in Right before in the women's game and that's why people tuned in right. The WNBA was gifted a golden ticket. They'll screw it up. Yeah, they already have. They'll screw it up and they'll be Because, listen, you want to build your league around somebody like her, right? And they Just sells a ticket, just sells a ticket.

Speaker 1:

It's a business right.

Speaker 2:

And they're not. And like for somebody like me that uh appreciates her game, like I turn on the wmba and I I can't watch it. Like to your point. It's like this isn't basketball and they're not allowing they're not allowing it to be marketed like they should you. There's a ton of women's sports I watch and the reason I think people tuned in to women's basketball was because of her and because she was doing something that no woman has ever done before.

Speaker 1:

So what is so crazy? This is again a crazy conversation, why I caught a little bit of what you're talking about, like what happened the day before yesterday or last night. They threw her down, but there's been a lot of that.

Speaker 2:

They've turned in like I forget how many clips of her just getting bully-balled, which okay. Right of passage is one thing.

Speaker 4:

Right.

Speaker 2:

But, I'm sorry, go ahead During the course of play, that's a different thing.

Speaker 4:

But when she's just standing there and they're throwing the ball in and somebody comes from the side or the back and knocks, her down.

Speaker 2:

It's cheap shots. I didn't even call a flagrant foul.

Speaker 3:

Some of that is welcome to the league, rookie. It is.

Speaker 4:

But that one isn't.

Speaker 2:

I agree, magic and Bird came in the league, they catered the NBA to their style of play. That's what they did. If the wmba was smart, they would cater their league to what caitlin clark especially open, making it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, look at the coverage you're getting. The wmba is getting coverage over all this well, but especially after what she did yeah, it will stop.

Speaker 1:

But what caitlin clark did for women's college basketball, You'd think the WNBA who, let's be honest, needs a facelift, that would be it. That would Caitlin Clark, is it Like right?

Speaker 2:

Don't you think that? Well, yes, but it's already. I mean, people are starting to turn it off because of it's just not, it's not good basketball.

Speaker 3:

Caleb, do you have any hand sanitizer on you?

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Can I borrow some? He actually has hand sanitizer. He does. I just want to check the level.

Speaker 4:

But the problem is when I give it to you. Now, I've touched it and it's the dirtiest thing in my pocket.

Speaker 2:

Okay, then keep it. Hold on. Is this a thing?

Speaker 3:

I want to let everybody know. I mean there's germaphobes and then there's germaphobes with a capital G.

Speaker 2:

He's squirting it right now. He's doing that. Let me tell you.

Speaker 3:

I appreciate it. He touched the bottle.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, well, the bottle is the dirtiest thing.

Speaker 3:

If the camera can see this. This is no lie. No, this is what you do.

Speaker 4:

Well, when you grabbed the bottle out of your pocket. The last time you touched it it was because you wanted to get something off your hands, right? Are you being serious?

Speaker 3:

No, it's bad, it's bad, it's bad. I can't even believe he's part of this, but it's bad. Look, this is what he does at home the hand.

Speaker 4:

You have to explain that Open the refrigerator at home.

Speaker 3:

His wife touched it and he's touched it. Grab it, pull the refrigerator open and that's what he does and then hand sanitizer After After the shirt yeah, is this true?

Speaker 4:

What if something's on the outside? I don't know if I'd hand sanitize after that.

Speaker 3:

Maybe I have before. I predict you'll be, but you don't open the refrigerator with your hand.

Speaker 2:

No, he does not.

Speaker 4:

I am starting to do that some Now. When you did see me, that was a few years ago, and I have grown a little bit, but not a lot.

Speaker 3:

It's a problem. I mean, it's a problem. We have to talk again. I predict if you stay on this road, you're going to be in a bubble in two years.

Speaker 4:

I don't want to be bubble boy, you'll be walking around in a bubble.

Speaker 2:

You ever see that movie. I did.

Speaker 4:

Way long ago Actually. I'm referring to a Seinfeld episode yeah, the bubble boy.

Speaker 2:

I'm referring to John Travolta way back in the early 70s.

Speaker 3:

No, I'm talking like bubble rap and stuff.

Speaker 4:

I think I'm getting better. I don't think so. I do appreciate it.

Speaker 1:

I'm the opposite, so but I do appreciate it. I'll give you a break.

Speaker 3:

I'll give you a break If we get a hand sanitizer sponsorship.

Speaker 4:

I'll give you a break.

Speaker 2:

Hey Wade Purell, maybe Does it irritate you that people like me never use hand sanitizer.

Speaker 4:

No, Because, of the hand shaking thing, I'm more of a hugger and people think, oh, what a sweet guy. He's a hugger. It's really mainly because you know you don't have to use the hand sanitizer.

Speaker 2:

How were you during COVID? Was that like a?

Speaker 4:

Oh, I never left the house. It was great, it was fantastic.

Speaker 3:

He's not really a hugger either, though he comes up to you and he kind of semi-hugs and then he pats like you're a dog.

Speaker 4:

Neil hates it when you pat.

Speaker 3:

He doesn't want to touch you long and he figures, if he does that it's not long enough.

Speaker 2:

You know what I'm going to back Neil up the five-second rule.

Speaker 3:

I'm not much of a pat guy either, if I'm going to hug, I'm going to hug I don't know where that came.

Speaker 4:

Going to work on that.

Speaker 1:

I mean, yeah, I'm not fully grown yet. I don't know how we got here by the way Still got some growing to do. There's worse things 100%.

Speaker 3:

I mean, there's a lot of hand sanitizer companies out there.

Speaker 2:

I only know one Purell, is that a hand sanitizer?

Speaker 4:

I think so, or is that just?

Speaker 2:

soap.

Speaker 4:

I don't even know. I, I don't even know, I don't even wash my hands. No, it's a hand sanitizer.

Speaker 2:

I probably don't even wash my hands. My wife right now is horrified. Oh yeah, I don't wash my hands Ever. I do after the bathroom.

Speaker 3:

I guarantee you, his immune system is stronger than all of us put together.

Speaker 2:

Maybe no, I mean Tully's got a good immune system, but I mean it's not bad.

Speaker 4:

Just from the whiskey when it gets to, driving me crazy and Rachel, my wife. Crazy is that let's say, for example, we had takeout like last night, and so I'll open all the containers, right, and all the dressing, all the dips and things like that, lay the lids to the side.

Speaker 2:

Is that so she?

Speaker 4:

doesn't open it. No, okay, the lids to the side, is that? So she doesn't open it? No, I want everything open so I can have access to it without having to ever touch a container again. And so I'll open all the containers and then I'll wash my hands and then everything's free game. I don't have to worry about it. But if I forgot to open one, say queso, for example, then I have to go and she's in the other room and I'm like Rachel, she doesn't hear me. Then I have to open it and I have to wash my hands again.

Speaker 1:

Do you think that's a problem?

Speaker 4:

I do think about it. I don't think it's normal. I feel good about washing my hands after that, because you never know, that's been through a lot of hands.

Speaker 3:

I wonder if our buddy Joey Bro uses hand sanitizer.

Speaker 2:

Oh, big week. I don't know, Joey Bro. You have to explain to people who Joey Bro is.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, because I'm a new fan. You have to explain.

Speaker 3:

Joey Bro is a coon ass that we wrote this song about Language.

Speaker 1:

That's where he's from. Try that in a small town was written for that dude right there.

Speaker 3:

Where he's from where he grew up.

Speaker 2:

So it is. I just looked it up so we could get to correct spelling Joey J-O-E Bro, b-r-e-a-u-x.

Speaker 3:

It's safe to say he's an LSU fan, but he's a fantastic follow it really is you have to go to.

Speaker 1:

Instagram and follow him at JoeyBroOfficial. Please check it out. It's too much good content there to even try to explain it.

Speaker 2:

He's awesome. He's been a friend to us. It's a follow. You won't be disappointed then, right he's killing it, he's killing it. He's killing it. Damn it boys.

Speaker 4:

He's exploding Boys and girls.

Speaker 2:

We love you, Joey.

Speaker 1:

Thank you for all the love. You're amazing. He did a little cover of Try that in a Small.

Speaker 4:

Town man, joey, thank you. Yeah, thank you, it was just a very unique interpretation. It's good.

Speaker 2:

You'll go to his page and you will just scroll, and you will scroll and you will watch.

Speaker 3:

Y'all think we can get him on the show. I hope so. We've got to get him on, if we're lucky. We gotta get them. It'd be a riot if we could. Where's joey? Damn it. Boys and girls, you gotta come on. You gotta come on, damn it's going all right and so.

Speaker 4:

So we did want to mention again and qualify, clarify what have you of the, of the, the rv that we were looking? We're looking for really like, you know, really like a donation, but not a gift. It's not to keep or anything like that, it's just for us to utilize for a little bit, like during this tour, possibly with the Aldine tour coming up and just spend some time out there in an RV. But there is a difference between an RV and a camper and it's not about us and we're not prima donnas at all, we're not. I mean we're not, but we're going to have guests. We're going to have guests come on, that's right. We're going to have guests come on there. And so it needs the basic accoutrements like the minibar, the AC all the things.

Speaker 4:

And if it does extend to where you get a little bit more width in that cabin.

Speaker 3:

You guys could probably swing some passes.

Speaker 2:

Hold on 1,000%.

Speaker 1:

I'll tell you this Whoever comes through with this wonderful donation, we'll be taking care of some Aldine shows. We'll up the ante. Oh, we will.

Speaker 2:

That's right here we go, we'll be taking care of some Aldine shows. Ooh, yeah, and we'll up the ante. Oh, we will. We're going to up the ante.

Speaker 3:

That's right, we will, we will, we will, we will If we get an RV.

Speaker 2:

That all of us think is great. We'll give away a guitar. Oh wow, we'll sign this thing and lyrics We'll give away a guitar.

Speaker 3:

Oh, wow, we'll sign this thing and lyrics We'll write out lyrics.

Speaker 2:

Try that in small Tickets. Tickets to a show. Tickets to the show Yep.

Speaker 1:

We'll even share a nice cold Crown and Seven together, oh wow.

Speaker 3:

And you'll get a case of Original Glory beer.

Speaker 2:

Now that Our sponsor Original Glory, and that's good stuff.

Speaker 4:

It's actually pretty good.

Speaker 1:

Now this what we need, I'm asking for we need, like, a good-sized Winnebago that we can no, no, no, Don't say Winnebago, don't say the word Winnebago.

Speaker 4:

I don't make the Winnebago. What's wrong with you guys?

Speaker 3:

No, no, no it's back to the meth lab stuff.

Speaker 4:

We're not doing a Win. No, no, no. I mean, it's got to be Well.

Speaker 2:

me and Kurt are going to be on our bus.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, oh yeah, See, yeah yeah you guys are with Aldi on your own bus.

Speaker 3:

I'm going to be in my condo bunk. Me and Neil are behind going. Anybody out there with a decked out? Tricked out Prevo.

Speaker 2:

Oh stop.

Speaker 1:

We can take a Winnebago, we can take this work, can't we? For America?

Speaker 4:

Well, when you put it like that we will take it under advisement.

Speaker 1:

We'll check it out.

Speaker 4:

Hey Wade, we'll be looking at that stuff.

Speaker 1:

Anyway, we thank you guys for the responses. On a serious note, though, if anybody has any ideas or access to one, that's attainable word of the night.

Speaker 2:

Word of the night, this is attainable.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we want to take this podcast to you guys on the road, so please let us know.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, and because we talk about it all the time. We're having a great time. We love connecting to all you guys, but we do want to do some good. We want to do some ministry. We want to reach out. We want to do some good. We want to do some ministry. We want to reach out. We want to do some shows for somebody.

Speaker 4:

We'll figure out how we're going to do this at some point, picking a town on the map or somebody with the best story and stuff, and maybe come do a benefit, raise some money to build back Mr Miller's barn or what have you, and just really do some good things.

Speaker 4:

Because, even though we talk about people on the left that we disagree with, try that in a small town is a good message, it's an American message, it's our message, it's Aldine's message, it's a lot of you guys' message, and so we just want to continue to prove that we set out to do right and we want to continue to do right and have fun. And the reason we're talking about a sponsorship for this RVv is because we are self-funding this podcast. So, as fun as it is, there are expenses, you know, and so that's why, as kurt would say, we need you guys to like and subscribe and download and pass it along to your friends so that we can continue uh this movement and have fun with you guys, because we certainly love it and we just want to keep it going.

Speaker 2:

Well said.

Speaker 1:

Well said.

Speaker 2:

Well said.

Speaker 1:

It was a good night. It was a great night.

Speaker 2:

It got a little spicy, it got a little serious. Neil came out hot and strong.

Speaker 4:

He did, I did, but you got a lot of love.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I did A lot of love. We'll edit that out.

Speaker 1:

Thank you guys, that's more love than you've had since your honeymoon.

Speaker 3:

Raise them up Cheers.

Speaker 4:

Cheers cheers, cheers, ding, ding, ding, uh-oh.

Speaker 2:

Hey guys, thanks for listening. Don't forget to follow us on all the social platforms, at Try that Podcast and, of course, if you're watching on YouTube, make sure you like and subscribe and leave a comment. We love interacting with you, thanks.

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