Have you ever stumbled upon an unplanned adventure that turned out to be one of the best days of your life? That's what happened to me as I set out for a 10K training session and ended up having a blast at a golf course with a chance meeting with Lance Armstrong. This episode isn't just about those serendipitous life moments though; it's a heart-to-heart on the juggling act of fitness and fatherhood, and a cheeky peek into 'guy stuff' like participation trophies and the peculiar stress of shorter races versus marathons.
Life throws us curveballs, and how we swing can lead to new passions and challenges. Join me as I recount the thrill of chasing a quirky world record, the pivot from ministry to event planning with Go Wheels Up Texas, and the rollercoaster journey of entrepreneurship with Camp Gladiator. We'll explore the community bonds formed through shared experiences and the personal victories that come from competitive fitness. It's a candid look at how the phases of our lives shape our professional and personal narratives, and the importance of embracing the wild ride.
To wrap things up, a shared chuckle is in order as we discuss our fitness hobbies that, let's just say, have become somewhat of an acquired taste at home. I'll regale you with stories of marathon pursuits that have lost their luster with my wife and bodybuilding escapades still championed by my son. Together, we'll explore the amusing family dynamics behind our passions, all while finding camaraderie in our commitment to the pursuits that light our fires, regardless of the eyebrow raises we might receive from our loved ones. Strap in for an episode filled with laughter, relatable tales, and a genuine celebration of the unique blend of fitness, fatherhood, and the unabashed pursuit of our interests.
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Have you ever stumbled upon an unplanned adventure that turned out to be one of the best days of your life? That's what happened to me as I set out for a 10K training session and ended up having a blast at a golf course with a chance meeting with Lance Armstrong. This episode isn't just about those serendipitous life moments though; it's a heart-to-heart on the juggling act of fitness and fatherhood, and a cheeky peek into 'guy stuff' like participation trophies and the peculiar stress of shorter races versus marathons.
Life throws us curveballs, and how we swing can lead to new passions and challenges. Join me as I recount the thrill of chasing a quirky world record, the pivot from ministry to event planning with Go Wheels Up Texas, and the rollercoaster journey of entrepreneurship with Camp Gladiator. We'll explore the community bonds formed through shared experiences and the personal victories that come from competitive fitness. It's a candid look at how the phases of our lives shape our professional and personal narratives, and the importance of embracing the wild ride.
To wrap things up, a shared chuckle is in order as we discuss our fitness hobbies that, let's just say, have become somewhat of an acquired taste at home. I'll regale you with stories of marathon pursuits that have lost their luster with my wife and bodybuilding escapades still championed by my son. Together, we'll explore the amusing family dynamics behind our passions, all while finding camaraderie in our commitment to the pursuits that light our fires, regardless of the eyebrow raises we might receive from our loved ones. Strap in for an episode filled with laughter, relatable tales, and a genuine celebration of the unique blend of fitness, fatherhood, and the unabashed pursuit of our interests.
Follow Mitch @ http://instagram.com/go_for_mitch
Follow Bart @ http://instagram.com/bartonguybryan
Welcome to Dad, Bods and Dumbbells, where we're talking about fitness, fatherhood and just guy stuff in general, practical advice and thoughts that really have been a part of our lives right now, hopefully valuable to y'all listening and watching out there.
Speaker 2:What we'd like to do is have an open forum of transparency and being able to learn from each other and the world around us. Yeah, thanks for joining us. We're glad to have you.
Speaker 2:Let's get started. Okay, thanks for joining us. We're glad to have you. Let's get started, okay. So, yes, monday I was doing like I have a 10K coming up with Cam Haynes. It's the lift run shoot 10K that we're doing up in Manor at Shadow Glen Golf Course, and so the owner and the event guy out there are graciously letting us use their golf course. They have this big acreage spot 10K loop that they can put together.
Speaker 2:Well, I wanted to go there and just make a few site run, because it's coming up in a couple of weeks, may the 5th and ultimately I was like why is it so busy? It's like a Monday, it's a Monday afternoon, it was like late morning, I should say and turns out there was a golf tourney in a high school golf tourney and my boss, esther fedorich of the fed agency uh, her son was playing in the tournament, and so I was like ask my, uh, my buddy, can I borrow a golf cart? And I drove out to the hole and I ended up watching six holes of golf with them, which was actually quite entertaining and fun. On the way out, though, I see this guy talking on his phone speakerphone, which was kind of weird. I assumed it was you know older guy like god talking like this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was weird, it was weird but it was also like here, you know it's like this.
Speaker 2:Anyway. He's like salt and pepper, like five o'clock shadow, and I look at this guy as I'm driving my car down. I was like that's freaking lance armstrong. And I go, lance armstrong. I point he's like, hey, buddy, how you doing? I was like this is amazing. I looked up to you know. It's like what do you even say in that moment, Because he was on the phone too and I've heard he can be kind of an asshole. So I was like well, maybe I should have talked to him. But anyway, that's, I talked to Lance Armstrong. We became friends.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're friends now Speed dial.
Speaker 2:I think the cool part for me was I was doing something I needed to be doing. I didn't want to have to drive up to Manor it's actually quite a long trip but if you just allow the day to kind of just happen, how much fun you can have. Because I could have easily just stayed on a whole one, watched a couple shots, been like all right, see you guys. But instead I decided to stay and just say hey, might as well, uh, enjoy the time then and get it to meet Lance Armstrong. And so it was like the first time in a long time I've felt um, I felt like relaxed in what I'm doing, not really like, oh, stressed about what I got to do next or I have this urgent matter to go to. I was like I have plenty of time, I'm just going to enjoy the time here, even though I'm not golfing. It made me want to golf, but ultimately it was the first time in a long time that I felt like I'm just enjoying where I'm at right now. It was kind of crazy.
Speaker 1:Well, I love it too, because you have this event with Cam right, and it's not you running around being the gopher of this thing. You're out there to like, site check, make sure things are set up, once everything kind of like you didn't have any fires to put out you're like I'm going to hang out and watch some golf.
Speaker 2:It was kind of cool and I think that's what I like about the event too. Well, I work when I do stuff with Cam. What I like is just he allows me to do my thing. Like hey, just he allows me to do my thing. Yeah, like hey, I trust you to do this event, I trust you to do these things. No one's asked me a ton of questions. They're just like mitch has got his micromanaging yeah, which is super awesome.
Speaker 2:He knows that I'm going to put quality stuff together and uh, and it'll be fun too. I mean, we're gonna have like 500 runners. It's gonna be, it's gonna be wild, and then I won't even run it. That's even crazier thing so all problem problems.
Speaker 1:You don't run 10Ks, you run marathons, marathons, yeah, marathons only. So it's a little below your.
Speaker 2:Actually, what I find is actually one of the harder races are 10Ks. Yeah, because you're expected to do like a 5K pace, which is significantly faster than your marathon pace, for me at least.
Speaker 1:Sure.
Speaker 2:And so, like I feel the stress of like well, I want to get under, not I want to get sub nines, I want to like be able to break 55 minutes that's kind of always the goal in my mind, and so 10k is actually stress me out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, marathons do not. Marathons are easy. This is what I tell everybody. If I can do it, anybody can do it. It's just you gotta. Basically what you do is you look at your running watch in about an hour and you're like, well, let's just buckle in. It's going to be a long day.
Speaker 1:It's going to be a long day today.
Speaker 2:And that's usually what it is Just enjoying where you're at at the time. That's good. The funny thing I thought I'd do with all the medals from the marathons, because it's a participation trophy is what?
Speaker 1:it is. I don't win anything.
Speaker 2:I thought I'd display them. They're in a shoebox like under my bed. I don't even care. It's like, oh yeah, that was a cool one. I do the austin marathons that I've done a couple times. They're belt buckles, so those are kind of cool. I wear those around but I don't like show them off because I'm like really proud.
Speaker 1:I'm like it was miserable and I look terrible doing it to be fair, mitch wanted to hang all the medals up here.
Speaker 2:I shut it down. I did what. I do it like we need some quality stuff up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, look at this, we got the capital.
Speaker 2:I know, I know what's what's funny about each of these things. They represent a lot of different phases in my life yeah, we'll talk about it.
Speaker 2:This was uh, this was taken by a lady, by Lynn Lindy. Her husband used to be the worship leader at Austin Ridge, southwest, eddie, eddie Willis. So she took this picture and it was in my office and I took it when I left and she signed it for me. She's like to the Royers, you know, because I was like I love this. It like what it represents to me is like the old Austin, like this is where we love. And then, of course, uh, that was my life, austin, I'm, I'm. I broke a Guinness world record largest gathering of rabbits dressed people dressed up like rabbits. Um, and then that was like the phase of my life where I was ready to kind of transition out of ministry and then that was the first event I ever really like did.
Speaker 1:Go Wheels Up Texas.
Speaker 2:It was a huge event, million dollar event that got me into events in the first place. Right credibility and then this was our final fundraiser for Salvation Army.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:And last year ACL Live. So it was the last one I knew we were going to produce, because I knew they weren't going to hire us because they're going to do smaller events rather than the big. Like hey, rent out ACL Live, do this thing. But so that is kind of the different phases of my life. But even now I think about the next phase.
Speaker 2:I've always kind of pictured my life in almost like're, almost like decades increments, mm-hmm. For a while there it seemed like every two years I was changing big. But it's like the first time in my life where I feel pretty comfortable where I'm at, yeah, like I love dripping springs, I love living out there. I saw somebody I knew and I basically was like talking to him right 15, 20 minutes, just kind of like how I did when I went to the conference room, when I got lost. When I went to the conference room, when I got lost, when I went to go to the bathroom, I just started talking to the people. Oh man, it's been so long. It's just like reminds me of the Midwest.
Speaker 1:Well, I think that's your superpower too, man. It's like no, it's seriously like people who struggle, like have anxiety around, like meeting people and like starting up conversation, like it makes it very hard for that type of person to be an entrepreneur, yeah, or be in in a field where you're like setting up events. It's like you know, because you're kind of throwing parties. Yeah, you know, like I mean. You know, I mean like that's events are like really well organized parties yeah and yeah, it is fun you have to have that social element.
Speaker 2:You have to have that, that comfort around people what I always appreciated about you, like when we first met it it was around Camp Gladiator, so you had to get me to sign up, so you couldn't make it too horrible and you wanted me to see the community. But you're also like you have to close me still, and it's not like it's a huge close, Like you're not making you know, tens of thousands of dollars. It's like this is just one to the many people I have to sell to do this Like for you. Was there any stress Cause? That to me sounds like torture. I don't mind going around, building relationships, talking to people, but being like hey, you should come out for our camp this four weeks and it's going to cost you $199 or whatever, I don't even remember.
Speaker 1:But like what, was that a hard switch for you? Like what is even that, like that feeling? Yeah, I mean, if you think about you know, just in the world of training you have kind of different tiers. You've got like the high-end personal training or somebody might be paying, you know a couple thousand dollars a month to work with, with a client or with a trainer, and then you have the like group fitness or like gym memberships you know as low as like 10 bucks a month you're like, and then there's somewhere in the middle is kind of like the, the orange theory.
Speaker 1:The crossfit box camp gladiator kind of fits in that, which is usually about 70 to 199 dollars in that range.
Speaker 1:And so if you're trying to make a business off, you know growing memberships for a program like that, you have to. Your goal should be hundreds of clients, yeah, right. And so you know it really becomes a numbers game at like, hey, I've just got to get as many people out there. You know when I went to, so I moved my location to Austin Ridge, southwest, and the best thing I did was I got in contact with Mark Adams right, and him and his wife signed up.
Speaker 2:And then they posted on like the Facebook group and said hey, we just signed up for camp Glad to either.
Speaker 1:they're out there, you know, out on our grass. Come out and join us, and like 40, it was crazy signed up.
Speaker 2:That was wild Cause. Normally our group was like 10, 15. Yeah it was, we had like over 50.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was, it was bonkers and that was also our birthday deal and so that was like five bucks to try out the camp for four weeks, and so it was a super crazy deal. So it just made it super easy for all these people to show up. And then it was just about creating. I had to go from training 10 people to training 50. So I got there an hour early and I'd set up all my cones and kind of map out where everything was going to be.
Speaker 1:It was always fun, man, and it had to be fun. It had to be for all fitness levels, because there was people like you who you would tell me that you're not in shape and all that kind of stuff. But you were an athlete from growing up, so you had this expectation. This guy bear crawling across the grass was like unleashing a pit bull into the wild.
Speaker 2:I think that was the first time I realized I was really strong. It was when we'd started doing the, we'd take those big sandbags and we'd throw them in front of us and then you'd have to sprint after it, throw it and sprint it. Mine was like twice as big Like I could throw it twice as far as literally anybody else and you're like bro, you might have a gift.
Speaker 1:It was like I talked to you into doing CG games. Yeah, dude, and I made it to the finals. I mean on technicality, but I'll take it.
Speaker 2:I uh, you know the crazy part about that story was uh, it was. I was fully unprepared I'd been sick the week before. We ran a two miler right to start.
Speaker 1:Like I, I just like camp.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it was like the worst parts of it and the, the, the bear crawl, 100 yard bear crawl with a hundred yard bear crawl, the, and then the, the jumping burpees, 100, like. I just didn't know it would be like this yeah, but when you talk about, like the thought I did the, the turn, you turn the, the, the tire and jump over, jump in it and then the one where you pull the you run. Yeah, like I broke one of the sleds because I hit it too hard, because I was pulling too fast.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like I knew I could like if I just finished, because I just finished my two miler.
Speaker 1:You had to kind of max out your strength.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like that's how I did it, that's how I got in, was like my mile time was like 7 45. Yeah, I'm not gonna get points that way, I'm gonna get points by doing the uh bear crawl, pulling a hundred pound bag behind you. That's what, just brute strength and so like. When I got that, the problem was my wife worked night shifts, my daughter was young, and so like I got picked for the finals because somebody bowed out. I was pretty close. I mean I was like 50 in the 50s and they did the top 50. But now it's like huge competition, like there's no way I could ever get in now. So I was pretty happy I got my t-shirt. I still wear it.
Speaker 2:My my finalist t-shirt um, it's a pretty big deal, but my so my wife had to get and get the kid and I had to race over to this place in north austin or whatever to be able to compete and I almost wasn't going to. You're the only reason I did, because you were like, come on, that's a great opportunity, you're gonna regret it if you don't do it. And then when I got there, I was like this is hell. Yeah, it was the worst. And I it was the first time I'd ever seen like real elite, where you start comparing yourself and realizing oh yeah, this is different.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then that obstacle course they had us do yeah, you had to do it four times and like time or whatever. After the monkey bars.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was like exhausting.
Speaker 2:I did the first one really fast and I did the second one just like twice as like, probably about half as fast, yeah. And it gets to the point where I start looking around. I'm like, oh, people are dropping out like people aren't finishing. Yeah, it's like if I just get one more lap in, I might be able to be in a good position. Ended up at 33rd place of the 50 people. I beat 8 17 people that's not bad, bro, yeah I was the 33rd place, like like 33rd best.
Speaker 1:CG-er and you coached me. That's what's cool about you is you're not the typical Camp Gladiators. If you don't know what Camp Gladiators is, it's boot camp, but the typical athletes who do really well in CG games. Finals are going to be lighter athletes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, quick agility.
Speaker 1:strength to body weight ratio is going to be, you know, pretty good and much like a, like a american ninja warrior type athlete is going to be better suited for cg games versus someone like yourself who's over 200 pounds. You're carrying a lot of weight, you got. You got some strength which works for you on certain things.
Speaker 2:But um, but yeah, but it was a wild experience, you worked your butt off.
Speaker 1:You went for it. I think that's awesome and I think that's yeah, I'm glad I did there's so many people that are overthinking fitness and overthinking, you know, like marathon. You're like I'm gonna do a marathon a month for a year. I mean that's and you completed that, like that's yeah those types of ballsy decisions are. You know, some people say well, that's a stupid idea. You know, like, like the grumbly, like assholes who aren't ever going to do anything.
Speaker 2:Call them haters. I use it as a hate.
Speaker 1:But you know, like those are types of things that make the define who you are yeah. And I think that's important. I think it's important to kind of say, hey, this is who I am, I'm going to do this.
Speaker 2:I think this is what I didn't think and people don't realize. This is when you do something that's different maybe not like different, more extraordinary than normal, like most people don't do that Was. It's super lonely, like that's. The first thing I realized is like, wow, this is a really lonely experience Because basically, yeah, I'd meet people while I was running, I'd find pacers that I'd stick with, but like I'd get in my car and I'd drive home and I just basically was gone half a day from my family and they expect me to be fully formed and I'd be hobbling around like I had to figure out how to do it without getting divorced. And my wife didn't show up for any of them. Even the Austin Marathon she was. Do I have to come? I've already seen you do this. It's like no, this is my thing. And I realized just how stinking lonely doing something like that was. It's like no one cares.
Speaker 1:And your spouse didn't sign up for you to be a marathon runner.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right. My spouse didn't sign up for me to be a bodybuilder. I mean for me to be a bodybuilder.
Speaker 1:You're talking about almost getting divorced, my wife is walking on eggshells the last month because I was so depleted.
Speaker 2:I can't imagine dude.
Speaker 1:I'm doing cardio twice a day and going to the gym.
Speaker 2:You still have to make money and train.
Speaker 1:Any energy I have I was giving to my clients.
Speaker 2:You were a little bit of a grump. I was so short, you were a little grumpy.
Speaker 1:The joke is you know, you show me a lead athlete, I'll show you a bad marriage. That is true, man, but I mean I think you know if you're, if someone's going to prioritize an, you know, extremely disciplined athletic. You know achievements like that aren't just like a one-off every once in a while, like it's constant, like you're putting that pretty much over like your other.
Speaker 2:You know responsibilities like family, well they they say, of the like fitness, like health, family, friends, work, um, what I figured? Forget the other one kids. What fatherhood there's? Like all these things, you only can pick three. Like, if you try to add, you're only going to do three things. Well, of all the things that you prioritize, so if you're like, well, I'm going to be a good father, I'm going to be a good spouse and I'm going to be healthy, well, you don't have any friends and your job sucks because you're trying to like deal with the fact that you gotta wake up at 2 am to get your workouts in.
Speaker 2:Like it's. It's hard to imagine, like how you could. I will never do it again. Yeah, you know, I'll never do something like that again. Maybe I'll. It'll be a little different, but I think ultimately, what I learned from it was that you can pretty well do anything if you set your mind to it.
Speaker 2:Really, like it wasn't pretty. Yeah, don't get me wrong, it was miserable, but it was like I realized and I talked to a lot of my friends. I talked to my wife. She's like I I I've never lost faith that you could do it. I just I just couldn't believe that somebody would do that. Yeah, like it's like I didn't think you would fail, but I didn't also think you'd succeed, if that makes sense Because logistically it's a nightmare.
Speaker 2:You got not only to find a marathon Every month, every month you also have to figure out well, I have to travel for it or I have to like it's cost a lot of money to do these things. A lot of times, not just entry fees, but like I was going through shoes every month too Like Like I was going through shoes every month too, like I was, I was crushing through it. The issue was like how do I do this and not affect my family? And there was multiple times where I cause I went to Leadville 100 with my boy, nate Boyer, our boy Nate Boyer, and just a crew form, and I didn't run a marathon. I didn't have a marathon to run that month, so I ended up doing a treadmill marathon. I was like what can I do? That's special.
Speaker 1:It's like I'm going to do a marathon on a treadmill. I started like 4am, oh dude it was crazy. I mean, I started at 4am, I had just the boredom factor, oh yeah, well, I mean I had TV too.
Speaker 2:I watched sports center most, but you know sports center repeat, just put my headphones in and I I pounded it out, man, but like other than that. It was like everything was in texas. Yeah, so like I had to do one in june, july, and then the august was a treadmill I was hot too, but and then september yeah and the september one it was like 110 degrees.
Speaker 2:I mean it was miserable where people were like passing out on the trail. Yeah, because there were trail, like the ones in the summer, all trail trail marathons, cause people are nuts.
Speaker 1:What's the? What's the like, dirty little secret of like you know, with these elite, like ultra marathons or something like that, what's the thing that people don't even realize? It's like maybe the craziest thing about it, or like the stuff that people don't cause you know, you hear about like leadville 100 or like the moab, yeah, like 240. I mean all these things are awesome stories about goggins doing it and all that kind of stuff. But but what, what is, what's the underbelly?
Speaker 2:I mean you can't. So the the real issue is, even with a marathon, you got to think about the mile you're in. If you think I'm only two miles in, I'm only 12 miles in, I still got 16 miles. Like if you think you're in, if you think I'm only two miles in, I'm only 12 miles in, I still got 16 miles. Like if you think you're going to lose. Like you have to be present, and I never wear headphones when I'm out there. I'm always focused on being like present, because this is a like.
Speaker 2:I don't take marathons for granted, or even just being able to finish for granted anymore, because you are the opportunity to see who you are at mile 18, mile 20 and go. This is why people don't do this, because you can feel great at mile 16 and your body shuts down, and that's the same thing with the ultras. So a lot of these people. It's like you don't really know how to train and if you're not fueling for the first month beforehand to be prepared for 100 hundred miles in high altitude or even just the amount of elevation change, your body goes through so much changes that sometimes, no matter how hard you train, you just can't do it. Like your body says nope, and I don't think people realize that it's like you're not. I don't care if you can run a hundred miles or 200 miles. There are elite ultra marathoners that will that fail, that dnf, these big races, even though they're elite, and so a lot of people just don't realize that. I think the main issue is getting your mindset to be this is no big deal, like 26.2, I'm running 26.2 today. I'm running 50 today. I'm not. I'll probably never do an ultra. Like really. I've done an ultra accidentally, but like I'll probably never get into the 50s and 100s, just because I know what it takes to do marathon, which I, by the way, I said I would never run a marathon.
Speaker 2:When I lost the weight and started running, I was like that's silly, I'm never doing that. And now I'm obsessed with it like I. Now I'm thinking like I'm jones in for the next race. I'm going. Man, I want to feel that feeling again. I want to. It's addictive. But the problem with me was I carry so much weight, um, that I can never really be fast. I got short little stubby legs. I may be six foot but, like my, I have an inseam of 28. I mean, my torso is huge dude, and so for me, I'll never be fast, even if I go. Hey, I'm going to qualify for Boston, which, at my age you have to do a 303.
Speaker 1:I'm not even freaking close.
Speaker 2:I'll be happy when I break four hours. And that's like four hours is 9, 15s for 26.2 miles. And when you start talking about that number, you start cramping. You start like if you're not fueling way ahead of time and if you're not taking care of yourself during the race, where you're like I feel good, I don't need anything for four miles, you're going to be screwed. And I mean I did Austin because I love doing the Austin Marathon and that's going to be my staple race. Like if I'm in town, I'm doing Austin. It's just such a cool vibe. If I hadn't said I'm going to drink everything that they passed to me. So like it's a big party atmosphere, you've been there. But like when you hit mile 10 to like the rest of the race, people will hand you full beers. And so I said I'm just gonna take everything.
Speaker 1:yeah, I'm gonna drink if you offer it I'm taking it and so by.
Speaker 2:So I did this video and it was like mile 10. Uh, you know, dosa keys, I drink the whole beer. What happened was everybody was like stacked together, so it was like I had a beer, then I had a beer, then I had a few shots, then I had a mimosa, then I had, then I had whiskey, and then I mean it. Just, you know, back to back, within the first 11, 10 and 11, I had eight stops and then nothing, you know, until mile 15 or mile 13, it, it was wild, and so you don't start feeling it until mile 16. And I was sitting there going, I was, I wasn't sitting there, thankfully, because you don't stop.
Speaker 1:Like you can't stop.
Speaker 2:I was sitting there going I need a sandwich, I just need something. And I see the sandwich shop on the left it's open and there's nobody around. Like we're just like in that weird spot where there were no fan base, like it wasn't mile 20 when you get to east austin, where people start like showing up again.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and uh, I was like man, I didn't have my wallet.
Speaker 2:I was like maybe I can get a free sandwich, maybe. I just asked him like hey, man, I'm starving, I'm drunk I'll come back. I'm pretty drunk too like it's all that stuff where it's like, okay, this is real life, and so there's been a couple times like that. But you know I don't need to bore you with all the details of every marathon. My wife hates it. Did the guy give you a sandwich? Oh, the next stop there was somebody giving out pb and j's okay I mean, it was like truly like manna from heaven it was like I prayed.
Speaker 2:Lord, I know I drank too much during the first half of the race. Can you please give? Me a sandwich, and sure enough, like I turned the corner, there's this guy with a bunch of. They were terrible, but at least he gave me Dry.
Speaker 1:Awesome.
Speaker 2:Oh, dry Almost like they had sweat on them.
Speaker 1:You know how it gets like that. I didn't care, that's the other thing.
Speaker 2:It's like racing like this is super gross. The stuff you eat. Most people have digestive issues, so they're having Most people. You have diarrhea at some point. It's just one of those things I just imagine.
Speaker 2:Oh, my nipples bleed so bad, that was the other thing too, like I can't run more than four miles without my nipples starting to bleed. It's like an instinct. It's like how they say like crying babies make women lactate, or something like that. It's like I run more than four miles, my body goes time to produce blood so I can't wear. I can only wear black things because otherwise it just shows through.
Speaker 1:I, I saw it is the best part of the story I forgot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that is the worst part, it was just like my nipples will bleed constantly and you get to a point where you don't feel it anymore. You don't realize until, like you're like drenched in sweat and you like to wring out your thing and it's all blood. Oh dude, that's weird so they had. Uh, the reason I don't wear anything other than black is obviously my nipples, and I do cover them.
Speaker 1:Everybody's that's yeah, but like these big old boobies.
Speaker 2:Like I put this on and I strap it in and I put now that you're on epic, maybe that's gonna go hopefully, because he's. My wife said why don't you wear a sports bra? Now, that's humbling, oh shit when your wife's like just wear a sports bra.
Speaker 1:There's a whole half a society that has solved this problem.
Speaker 2:It's called a training bra I go, maybe I just need to lose weight. Yeah, she's like, why don't you just wear a sports bra? I was like I'm not wearing a sports bra and I'm not going shirtless because I'm a tub of a tubster. And she, uh, so yeah, the nipples because I. So my first marathon of the month, the january one, was like January 29th. I pushed it to the last minute and it stormed all morning, so it was like this thing's going to get canceled and then my whole marathon of months over cause there's not anything else. And so I. But it eventually happened that we got, you know, sent and it just basically rained the entire time downpour, but there was breaks in it. I remember seeing it was an out and back loop, so there was like a 13.1 and then he did the loop again. Those suck. There was this guy in a white dry fit and he just had these tears of heaven. Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2:Like all the way down I was like that's why you wear black son. That's why you wear black. That's why you wear black. Oh, dude, yeah, the chafing's pretty bad. It's gross, dude, it just is.
Speaker 1:That'd be a funny promotional poster of you just in a white wife beater with this red tears from your nipples all the time. Cover your nips.
Speaker 2:That would be a great nipple cover thing. I've tried them all dude, they just don't. I sweat too much, I don't know like, and I'm hairy too, so I shit. That's the thing you said. Ew about, come on ew hairy ew are you hairless?
Speaker 1:oh, so I do shave my chest yeah, I like.
Speaker 2:I like shaving my chest too. It feels otherwise. It gets mine, gets too bushy. Yeah, have I told you that I got? I'm getting laser hair treatment too. No, let's go, let go, let's go there. I'm sorry. Let's talk about hair loss and laser hair and all that stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, here's the thing, what happens with I think guys 30, 40, you're probably thinking about this stuff.
Speaker 2:My dad said that basically the joke is in the Royer family that you lose it up here and it migrates to your back. It's crazy. It's like to the point where it gets hot, yeah, where it's like it's a real sweater you have like a thick. Oh, thick, like almost hair, you know where, and I being, even though I have thinner hair, like my red hair is thin. Yeah, the back is like almost straight black. Yeah, it's the weirdest, though, on your back yes talking about my back, so I did some waxing.
Speaker 2:I've done waxing and it's miserable I bet um it. My wife did it once. She got a wax kit. She did it. I got it professionally done twice. I was like this is not working. So then I got one of those like you can do. They have, like they have so many products for back man they have like this back thing.
Speaker 2:It worked great for a while, but then the next one I got just didn't do it right and it looks patchy and I don't have mobility in my shoulders really well, because all I do is bench press, so my shoulders suck.
Speaker 2:You can only really shave the traps, yeah so you're just kind of throwing a razor back there. So finally, I was like Stacy my wife's name, stacy like Stacy, I need you to shave it, like I can't reach it, and there is nothing that turns a woman on than shaving her man's back. I tell you what? There's nothing.
Speaker 1:It was like, it was like the absolute.
Speaker 2:It was like the absolute worst turn on. You know, it's like she was like. I was right before bed. She's like getting a shower. There's hair and you just see the piles around my feet.
Speaker 1:So I was like do you use an electric? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:But I have colleagues in my back too, so it's like, so it's like a swirl dude, Okay. So so I was like I got to deal with this.
Speaker 1:We're going to have to post in the show notes some sort of a photo of your back. I don't take photos of it, dude, you don't take photos of your back. No Post shave.
Speaker 2:No, dude, I'm not that guy, and I got freckles everywhere, so I don't look great with my shirt on, I bet you do so my I don't look great with my shirt on, so they so. Basically, I was like Stacy when we got a little bit of money finally because, we've been broke for forever.
Speaker 2:We finally got some money. She got LASIK. I was like awesome, well, what do I get? She's like why don't you get your? She kept mentioning why don't you get your back hair lasered. Yeah, I was like why? She's like I don't know, just because and it's barry. And then she's like she started mentioning enough. It's like do you want me to get my hair laser to stop shaving?
Speaker 2:she's like yeah, that'd be nice, so I've started to do uh, I do back hair treatments every six weeks and they laser it and it's like almost instantly has helped wow where it's like less thick, it's thinner, like it's. This has been like three or four weeks and I don't have any growth. Yeah, I've only done four sessions. I'm gonna do my fifth. I got like eight total because the massness of my back.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, I I'm getting a laser hair removal. Yeah, it's so awesome. Yeah, I mean it's actually pretty uncomfortable, cause you do have to like you have to shave it, shave it like with a thing for the razor. Yeah, yeah, I'll tell you another story about it, what happened one time, but that's another episode.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's another episode, so no, I think it's funny, Like just you know cause. You just think we're losing hair on certain parts of the right and we're growing hair else. It's horrible and you're kind of like you know, you are what your DNA tells you. You are. Yeah, if you have the DNA to lose hair up here.
Speaker 2:Genetics is genetics. It's happening.
Speaker 1:And we can go out there and get the like you know, put the different products in her hair and try to thicken it up or do the like implants that people do and all that kind of stuff. But in the end you're kind of you're ahead of that direction, if you're, if your parents just you know, the dna says you're going that way.
Speaker 2:Enjoy the ride.
Speaker 1:And if you're, somebody who's going to have a hairy back. I mean there's, you know, at in the locker room at lifetime. There's there. Everyone says this guy. It is literally like like a wild animal's back like where he wears the tank top.
Speaker 2:Oh no, it's like the tank top doesn't touch skin, it is literally and I just thought to myself.
Speaker 1:I'm like what do you do?
Speaker 2:did they not realize it? Or do they just not care?
Speaker 1:I just think he what is he gonna do? Shave it? No, get laser hair treatment so thick yeah, that's how thick mine was like get a, get a friend here get married or have bart, my trainer, super happily married and that's dude.
Speaker 2:I don't, I don't get that and it's like in in the 80s you know, like tom selleck yeah he had hair hairy back, like that just wasn't a thing. But now I'm like I couldn't get out of my head so I had to do something. It was just like I can't like I hate going swimming because if I'm not like fully freshly shaved, yeah you know, and I don't know why I care about that, I don't care about my love handles I don't know.
Speaker 1:I don't know, it's kind of you got to pick your insecurity. Yeah, you can't be insecure about everything.
Speaker 2:Well, pretty soon. Yeah, it's true, my hair loss. The hair loss has been tough like it's, but when I look back at pictures, my hair has looked the same in the last 10 years. Yeah, I still have the same hairdo. I don't have a faux hawk anymore, though well you have.
Speaker 1:You wear a lot of hats too yeah, because I'm metaphorically and and yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, no, I think it's.
Speaker 1:It's. Yeah, you know, it's interesting. I'm, you know, as my hair gets a little thinner and got a little bit of thinness up here oh yeah, I y'all. I'm just you know being 6'4" it's really hard for people to see it unless I'm like on the bench for us and you can like you're like oh, look at that little ring.
Speaker 2:That's awesome Ring of fire up there. You can always get like what do they call them menorahs?
Speaker 1:You can convert Jewish right up here just cover the bald spot.
Speaker 2:They're like oh he's, he's spiritual, wow, he's. No, he's bald, he's hardened, he's just, he's just tired of it.
Speaker 1:I but my dad was like bald, bald at like 18 oh, really like yeah, full-on like he's always. He always had hair here yeah but like that full-on, like massive cranium, like bald head, and so I just, I just assume, you know, and I I mean I know that like it's.
Speaker 2:It comes from the mom's side, or whatever but, but.
Speaker 1:And my mom's brothers have no hair loss, almost none like. They're both in their 50s and, well, one of them's in their 70s and he's got a full head of hair my brother.
Speaker 2:My brother had always, always had great hair, always like really thick and full, and I could never like like. I tried growing it long. It's just my hair is just too fine.
Speaker 1:Um, but I could grow a beard before him you know I can do that, so you got to play to your strengths. So it's all about you got to play.
Speaker 2:It is true, and I mean I've been married. We've both been married like 17 years.
Speaker 1:So, like at this point it's like I'm going to do my best to look good, but at some point you're just gonna get old yeah, and like my, my wife is like she, you know, and I'm probably similar with you, like she loves me, not my six-pack or my biceps like so, say so.
Speaker 2:It's easy for her to say because you got both of those things, but like but she'll never say oh my god, you look ripped.
Speaker 1:Like, oh, you look hot. Like you know what I mean. Like she doesn't say she'll, she'll if I dress up or going out and wearing like a sports coat or something like that. She'll say I look nice like, I like, I look that outfit like, but she's not like. She's not somebody who's gonna give me props for like yeah, oh, your arms look so sexy.
Speaker 2:I was like, why haven't she, why hasn't she complimented me yet? It's not like, she's just not.
Speaker 1:I don, she's not about validating the superficial Whether.
Speaker 2:I'm pale or tan. She loves me for me, not my biceps or six-pack.
Speaker 1:If my veins are popping out or not.
Speaker 2:I seem flexible, there it is. Oh, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:It's really just about me. It's just about what am I into right now. Do I want to be super lean or do I want to, like try to build muscle and, like you know, fluff up a little bit, because you really can't be 10% body fat and like put on muscle unless you're doing shit, unless you're doing steroids or something that's like allowing that to happen. You have to kind of fluff up a little bit because you got to eat more than you're you know burning in order to actually like put muscle tissue.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so anyway, like it's. Uh, that's interesting. So what you need to do for your wife to appreciate you is let yourself go, you know, get some lovies, get a little to the point where she notices. You know where she's like huh, you have put on a little. What I realized when I was? When I got too fat, I realized my wife had stopped complimenting me. She was like oh, you look good. She never said that. I was like wait a second. I haven't heard that in a while. Oh, I think I need to lose weight. That's kind of how I feel.
Speaker 2:Just let her see what the normal man bod looks like dad bod and then go back to it.
Speaker 1:I did that. It was five years ago. I never want to get back to it. Did she know it? Like during the time, was she like you know? I think she I overplay. Like, I'll look up, I'll find a photo of me from, like that era.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you weren't fat.
Speaker 1:And I'm like I got a real chubby face Because I really fill out my face almost first, because I'm so tall that it like the body fat kind of stretches and I'm soft, but I don't look like I don't have a big belly. That's the way my fat kind of layers on top of me, but you see it in my cheeks and my neck, and so I go back and see photos of me in that time when I was about 250, and I'm like, wow, there, you notice it. Yeah, yeah, okay, that is not.
Speaker 2:What are you weighing now?
Speaker 1:218 to 92 you still weigh yourself every day? Is that like, yeah, that's kind of my. I wake up, use the restroom, weigh myself, write it down. I have a google, I give a google nice, so just I just you know because I think it.
Speaker 1:I think you know, just not that I like react to anything, but I see trends. It's funny when, like I was just telling, my neighbor and I went out, we went to the Mark Norman show down at the Paramount like three, four weeks ago fucking great show yeah, he was hilarious I wish I would.
Speaker 1:We went down to like the JW and had dinner, had a couple of martinis and just let it knock and just and just. You know the night was like that. We hit me to get bars after hit bars after our drinks you know, ate and drank a lot. Came home Next morning I weighed myself. I was like five pounds heavier, yeah, and it took me an entire week.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm telling you.
Speaker 1:I told you that Getting back on track to get to the body fat or not the body fat, To get to the number on the scale that I was, you know, before that night and I was like God, that's not worth it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like the extra weight. This is what happens to me too. It's like you have one bad day and everyone's like, oh, you're done, it doesn't stop. No, it does, like legitimately. Then I work the rest of the week to get myself where. It's crazy.
Speaker 1:And, to be fair, like you didn't, I didn't gain five pounds of body fat. Yeah, but your body takes all that sugar and carbohydrates and it stores it and it's like carbohydrate hydration. It binds with water, and so when you eat a lot of carbohydrates you actually get heavier because you're carrying more water, you're kind of bloated, you're holding a lot more in your gut too, and so it just kind of slows the system down.
Speaker 1:So it makes it harder, so that weight eventually falls off and it's not necessarily increased body fat, but it definitely is harder to just get back so anyway, I know you got yeah, we got it going. This is kind of a good good. Good, you know, just talk about what you've been up to in the running yeah, yeah, around it.
Speaker 2:I appreciate you letting me talk about all of my marathons. I don't. My wife doesn't like hearing about it anymore, so it's a it's nice to talk about it.
Speaker 1:I'm telling you talking about bodybuilding at my house my son's still young enough to be like. Oh, bart, who won the show. And it's kind of odd Like. But it's kind of odd like because I'm always I'll like check YouTube and watch like a like a update video on like who won the Arnold Classic yeah, oh what are you watching?
Speaker 2:oh, bart guys, in like really small bikinis flexing, leaving nothing to the imagination like okay but it's very masculine right that's right.
Speaker 1:Well, thanks man it's good, good hanging. Thanks for listening.