From Pre-Workout Hype to Parenting Strife: 90's Supplements, Cyberbullying, & Kids Birthdays

Remember the days when getting jacked meant a quick stop at the drugstore for some ephedrine? We're throwing it back to the old school pre-workout days, charting the rise and fall of this controversial substance. From its bronchodilator benefits to its shady links to meth labs, join us as we pump up the past and compare it to the likes of clenbuterol and albuterol. But it's not all about the gains; I'm also laying bare my own battle with dyslexia and the homeschooling path that veered wildly from my brother's academic feats.

Parenthood is no walk in the park, and we're not shying away from the tough talks, like the digital era's bullying battlegrounds. I'm opening up about my son's brush with cyberbully and how it launched us into a debate on freedom of speech and the pressing need to shield the vulnerable. And for all you parents on the pursuit of happiness, we're exploring the luxurious lives of my medic friends and questioning if career success truly equals joy. It's a raw look at the challenges of raising kids in a world where likes can sometimes feel more important than love.

Wrap up your resistance bands and tune in for the birthday party planning saga that's got us all questioning our sanity and savings. We're comparing notes on the extravaganzas that leave our wallets lighter—like my daughter's laser tag blowout—and swapping tips for keeping the celebrations joyful without breaking the bank. Plus, I'll dish on the evolving etiquette of kid drop-offs at parties, our undying affection for weddings, and the comradery found in the 'dad bods and dumbbells' community. Get ready for a heart-to-heart on the balancing act of parenting, festivities, and finding that sweet spot of memorable moments.

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Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

This is Dadbods and Dumbbells.

Speaker 2: 0:01

We're excited, you're here. Dadbods and Dumbbells.

Speaker 1: 0:03

Subscribe, comment wherever you listen or watch podcasts. Thanks for listening. Do you do pre-workouts or no? I'll do this or a pre-workout. Oh okay, right, so I wouldn't do both. Your heart would explode.

Speaker 2: 0:15

Oh yeah, well, I mean I'm from the era that, like when I was in in high school, my buddy and I would take you know, two ephedrine, two caffeine tablets and two aspirin.

Speaker 1: 0:31

It's a fedrin, it's not like it I mean, that's like the new york mets in the 86. Yeah, yeah, I mean back in the 80s and early 90s.

Speaker 2: 0:37

Like ephedrine, and you know it's so ephedrine can be utilized in it, probably to make meth, so that's why it actually became illegal. But basically it was a bronchodilator. So back in the day you could just go to CVS or the equivalent of your local drugstore and get just like 200,.

Speaker 1: 1:01

I don't know what. The other 25. Like ephedrine pills?

Speaker 2: 1:03

Yeah, just little red ephedrine pills and you just pop a couple Ohofeds, yeah, basically, yeah, pseudofeds before workout, but it's not pseudofed, it's, it's, it's a derivative of pseudofed, like. So pseudofed is really is a bronchial dilator or like a type of like uh, for for people who have like congestion. Yeah, and ephedrine is like just, I mean, it would would be if you had like asthma and you were like going and you felt like you have asthma, so yeah, maybe you can get some prescribed.

Speaker 2: 1:32

And then, if you, want to be real, like going to the drug world. There's an illegal form of that called clenbuterol. You've heard of albuterol, which is kind of like the inhaler. So clenbuter like has never been illegal in the united states. You can get in mexico, but it's like a. It's basically like a bronchodilator, like ephedrine, but has some sort of like anabolic effect to it.

Speaker 1: 1:55

There's, there's some sort of reason why it it actually like helps with like fat burning and like muscle growth so my brother is, uh, is a doctor now but uh, he was a chemist, chemistry genius and so he went to. He was, uh, I was the dumb kid and he was like the super smart kid and so he graduated early. So we were, we were I. My mom took us into, she's a teacher, so she homeschooled us. But the reason she homeschooled me at third grade on was because I was so dumb, they were going to hold me back and they didn't really have like proper terms for dyslexia. They didn't talk about it at the time so it was like, yeah, I was pretty dyslexic.

Speaker 1: 2:37

I had like I did this thing where I figured out that I could get out of class if I wet my pants, and so I'd wet my pants like every afternoon so I could get out of school, wow, and I get a lot of attention, so I like that. Yeah, we can break that down a little deeper later. But the reason so my mom quit her job and she took us to homeschool and my brother was like in fourth grade I was in second grade at the time and my brother was so smart he would just get through all his work and then be a distraction and he started kind of becoming I don't know if it's a bully's a right word, he just was a goofball. You know I was trying to get. You know, he just didn't have anything to do, he was just bored.

Speaker 1: 3:11

And so basically my mom took us to homeschool so I could like I could barely read at the time I was in third grade and so she was trying to get me to where I could, and my brother was basically just like blazing through school and so what? And really it was just based on like well, we'd work until 11. We'd do all our work and that's the day. That's how homeschool is, kind of it was, before it was. It seems like it's cool now to be homeschooled, but at the time it was not.

Speaker 2: 3:38

It's almost like a protest against the school. I don't agree with the politics. And I don't agree with the politics and they're all weird.

Speaker 3: 3:46

I shouldn't say that it used to be the connotation was you're homeschooled.

Speaker 1: 3:49

You must be a weird kid, but I was really just. The only reason they did is because they were going to put me back in first grade, because that's kind of where the level I was at.

Speaker 1: 3:58

I was really dumb, so I would have been like a great athlete, I would have been 20 as a senior in high school type thing. So a great athlete, I would have been 20 as a senior in high school type thing. So anyway, my mom homeschooled us and my brother like blew through school and so in sixth grade, so it was fifth grade going to sixth grade. My mom went back to work and so my brother would have been going into eighth grade. I was going into sixth grade because we're only two years apart. Well, we tested the school because you got like an assessment and I tested barely into sixth grade so I was like success and so I get into sixth grade and my brother tested out of college, I mean just certified genius, yeah.

Speaker 1: 4:32

And so my brother at the time, I think, was 13, 12 or something like that. And uh, the there were, we were walking around the school and the principal was with us and he's like, uh, you know, so basically your son could probably just go to college if he wanted. Yeah, uh, but what? And they're like man, he's young, like my dad didn't want to have to commute, you know, do the whole commute thing. And so he goes, uh, what you know. So I guess you just picked the grade he wants to go into. And my dad's like, walking around, like what grade is that kid? You know? I was looking around, oh he's in 10th grade. He's like, ah, that looks about right.

Speaker 2: 5:03

And so my brother started into sophomore. Such perfect parenting, I love it.

Speaker 1: 5:09

And so he graduates at like 15. He can't even drive yet, and so that was like the big caveat. I was like, well, he has to be able to drive and so he gets his senior year.

Speaker 1: 5:17

Of course is just valedictorian of his class all that stuff and, uh, he goes to the local indiana university because we're in indiana, yeah and uh in bloomington or no, no, there's one in south bend we were up north and so we call iusb, and so he went there as a 16 year old and my brother I'm a tall, I'm much taller than my brother, um, I mean much taller, probably like four or five inches if I was really, you know, standing up straight you got the brawn and the?

Speaker 2: 5:43

yeah, I got.

Speaker 1: 5:44

And he got the handsomeness man he looked. He looked like the when Prince William was 16, you know, like all he was swinging.

Speaker 2: 5:50

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 5:52

He had the Prince William. Look, he was a good, he's a good looking dude, and so he. So he basically just was like, well, I'm going to wait, pre-med, I guess, because that's what you do if you're smart. And so it was all chemistry, all biology, all organic chemistry, and he, uh, he basically just got, uh, was blowing through college, got a 4.0 in chemistry, double major in biology, pre-med, uh was full honors, all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1: 6:20

And the last year he had like a symposium or something where he talks about all his research he's been doing Because he also got a research grant. So he was in the chemistry lab all the time and the last year we go, the senior year, we didn't even know he was like in these things. But it's like an award ceremony. We're looking at the little thing and it shows my brother has won it all four years. We didn't know Biology award, chemistry award, all that stuff. All four years we didn't know biology award, chemistry award, all that stuff. So we had friends, uh, that were, you know, kind of church friends, whatever. But they they asked my brother, it was like, so like, could you like cook meth? Could you like? You could probably figure out, cause you're a chemist, right, like you can probably figure that out.

Speaker 1: 6:57

It's like, well, I mean, yeah, that'd be pretty easy. And he starts like talking through the process of like how you would do it before breaking bad Right, and it's like, well, this is just basic chemistry. He goes, it's very simple actually. Yeah and uh. Now, looking back on it, I realized just how smart my brother was and like for the like, he could have easily chosen the evil right, Like he could have easily chose this route, but instead he chose like hey, I'm going to help people, I'm going, I wanted to do things and I decided just to get into like communications. You know, PR, that's the easiest. I was always. It was me and the basketball players in my class.

Speaker 2: 7:28

So in college. So I'm just happy I graduated there you go so full circle back to Fen-Fen.

Speaker 1: 7:35

Well, it was about the infederate.

Speaker 2: 7:36

Yes, the Fen-Fens.

Speaker 1: 7:37

Yeah, so like that was the whole thing was ultimately, it was like, yeah, well, you just take the basic agreement and you break it down, and he was like, going through all this stuff, I was like, holy crap, my brother could be an evil genius right now if he wanted.

Speaker 2: 7:47

But there you go. So you know you think about some people. They're just trying to like be valuable in society and other people have such an intellect or such like a skill set or talent like you know, just level that you know they could literally go evil or you know, or helpful, and you thank you, thank your parents, for that one. Cause they probably steered him towards the right path.

Speaker 1: 8:13

Yeah, it's kind of crazy though when you think about it, because you know I don't know if it's too overwhelming or not, but to be that smart like that's a lot of pressure to go like what do you want to? You can literally do anything. Yeah. So what is it?

Speaker 1: 8:27

And so you make these decisions at 18, 19 going well, I guess I'll do this route and I'll be here Not realizing the impact of those things. And then you know, 10 years down the road, it's like, yeah, you might be a doctor, you might be a lawyer, you might be those things, but ultimately it it's like does it really bring happiness? I kind of am thankful for the years of just kind of figuring it out. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 8:46

Even though, like, yeah, of course I wish I was. You know, I had one of those things. But now I'm in a place where I'm happy. So it was the first time where I'm like, oh, I found my way, and a lot of it was the entrepreneurial thing. I didn't realize what it was, I didn't realize the business side it was, but ultimately I think, being able to choose your path and not feel the pressure, honestly it's better to be dumb. So I kind of I like yeah, I mean.

Speaker 2: 9:08

I mean I think you you're, when you go through life and you fail a lot, like it just changes the way that you've like experience the world and I think it for people who have either been super smart and like in school just came easy for them and so they could always lean into. My best friend is a doctor Similar.

Speaker 1: 9:29

I'm not a doctor. That's weird.

Speaker 2: 9:32

My San Diego best friend, but yeah, so he was just great at school and he worked hard and he had discipline and so he just went all the way and he's a pediatrician and all that kind of stuff, but he's, you know, I mean away and he's a pediatrician and all that kind of stuff, but he's, uh, you know I mean, but it doesn't guarantee that he's the happiest guy. No, in fact he's not. Um, you know, both him and his wife are high level, like she's a physician's assistant, he's a doctor, but it's high stress and and and and again with everything you know.

Speaker 2: 9:58

Rogan was just saying this is like once you get that, that thing, whether it's your house or like you, you know the beachfront or whatever it's like, three weeks into it you're like it's home.

Speaker 1: 10:08

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 10:08

Right and so, like you know, whatever motivates us to strive for that certain diploma or that certain thing, it's like we got to be careful. When we get there, we're like, oh now this is just life, and am I actually happy? I wanted to, since we're talking about kids and all that kind of stuff. My son I picked him up yesterday from school and I'm just driving him home and out of the blue in the back he says something like Twitter's bad Dad and I'm like what? And the first time I said you mean X, get it right, kid, get with it, buddy.

Speaker 1: 10:42

I said you mean X, Get it right kid. Get with it, buddy, I said oh, I said why.

Speaker 2: 10:46

And he said well, you know, there's so much cyberbullying and Elon's not doing anything about it. And I'm like wait a second, my kid is not even 10 years old. I'm like what?

Speaker 1: 10:56

And so this is your son's. So woke, it's cool man.

Speaker 2: 11:00

It's cool and this is Austin, texas, so I mean it's Austin, but it's still Texas. But anyway, it was just funny. I'm like, well, you know, and I just I tried not to make it like a, you know, just this is what I think I just said. Hey, you know, think about this sometimes when, in order to get rid of things that are bad, like cyberbullying, you got to take away some freedoms, like the ability to say whatever you want, uh, which is a part of what makes us free and and and what makes america great. I didn't say that because that felt a little.

Speaker 1: 11:34

Trumpy, but I mean, you know I just want to.

Speaker 2: 11:37

and he said he was like, but bullying is bad, and I said you're right, you're right, you know. So it's a conundrum.

Speaker 1: 11:44

It's interesting, you know, I didn't really, I just kind of left it From the mouth of babes man, I know. I think what I've started to notice is bullying gets thrown around a lot Like hey, oh, I was being bullied, it's like no. I talked to my daughter about this all the time. I was like I mean, I don't want to minimize the feeling that you, how, you felt right, like yeah, you felt like oh, I felt put down, I felt those things. But like bullying, in the nature of bullying, was like it's an abusive piece. It's not a hey, hey, what's wrong with your hair, it's yeah, that can be positioned as bullying. But really in in reality, just because someone says something you don't necessarily agree with, right, because that's sometimes what it is, or you're just you're offended by yeah you're triggered by or yeah, like we're so worried about everybody, just like having happy feelings all the time and and and.

Speaker 2: 12:33

the reality is, you go around if I wear a ridiculous shirt. I remember one day at high school I wore white pants and a yellow polo shirt. I would look like and I'm not a very tan guy, so I looked like the sun and someone would be like. Someone came up to me like dude, you look like an idiot. And I was like, oh yeah to me. Like dude, you look like an idiot. And you know I was like, oh yeah, but like I never wore that outfit again. Yeah, and you know what? Good for good for him for saying that, for having the guts to come up to me and just like dude, you look like an idiot.

Speaker 1: 13:04

You were such a bully.

Speaker 2: 13:10

And I just kind of part of the deal, but it's almost like how you learned it, like I mean, and somebody is like bullied to the point of, like, you know, wanting to have self, you know, self-harm, or something like that, like that. But there's something about, you know, just the the general meanness of your peers that allows you to kind, of course, correct in in ways that we're trying to like not you, yeah, this isn't like, hey, this is bad.

Speaker 1: 13:33

In a lot of ways it's like immature ways of saying, hey, I know who you are and this is not you. But here's what is interesting and I heard this the other day too was that the world of, like, the cyber world, actually is pretty detrimental to kids. In the sense that there is like we used to have bullies.

Speaker 2: 13:55

Yeah, we used to have people that could beat us up, that would put us down and do those things.

Speaker 1: 13:58

Yeah, that are in face to face and if there's like, you can deal with those things. But now it's just such an anonymous world where you can say whatever you want, you can, you can attack whoever you want and you can also post false falsehoods about those people to the rest of the friend groups. Now I don't understand Snapchat. I I've tried to do that. It seems like too much work. So like, stick to Instagram for me and I don't like nobody really comments on my stuff anyway. So like I don't feel that as an adult but I do get, you know, made fun of by my friends Like, dude, what are you doing? Why are you doing those things? I don't, I wouldn't say I was bullied, but I think what, what's changed is the side. I think your son's right Is the the problem with the social media piece, especially at a young age, they're still developing their brains and to be able to give them a whole other Avenue to be able to ruin, ruin someone's life, I think it's pretty, pretty scary.

Speaker 1: 14:51

That's why I don't want my daughter to have a cell phone. I mean she just turned 12, kids birthday, you know. Like just turned 12. There's no way I'm giving her a phone, especially not a smartphone. These things are little computers in our pockets, like it's just amazing to me.

Speaker 1: 15:04

So my son has a watch yeah it's called a gizmo oh, I've heard about those yeah, and he can text.

Speaker 2: 15:10

He can turn it on like it turns on when he gets out of school and he can walk home and he can text us and he can send it to my wife and I or his grandparents. Yeah, so there's like people that he can specifically communicate with and we can call him or text him can you track it? Is it?

Speaker 1: 15:24

yeah, yeah, you have an app and you know exactly where he's at.

Speaker 2: 15:28

So it's a yeah, it's very like big brother effort, but it's great as a parent because it's like we can like kind of let him have the freedom of like he walks home. It takes him 20 minutes to walk home from school. You know he's navigating that on his own.

Speaker 1: 15:40

He'll be 10 on Saturday. You guys let him do that.

Speaker 2: 15:43

That's terrifying to me and he comes home with like a sense of confidence. He'll come home and he's like sometimes he runs part of it.

Speaker 1: 15:50

Was that hard for you?

Speaker 2: 15:51

No, not for me. How about Val Val a little harder? Yeah?

Speaker 1: 15:55

Like at first. So like I'm picturing it happening right the first couple days. Val gets in her car Kind of follows him, kind of follows him, so we had it.

Speaker 2: 16:05

He has a friend who they wanted to walk to school together, and his friend's mom and dad didn't want his friend Aristotle to walk by himself, and so we came up with once a week we would drop jack at aristotle's house and they would walk together to school. So that became kind of like a weekly thing. So that was, that was a little bit of practice that helped us kind of like okay yeah, I mean my son's.

Speaker 1: 16:30

Like my son goes. I want to ride my bike to school and we live about a mile from the school. Yeah, but it's, it's all highway. Yeah, I'm like absolutely not. But I also, if there was a sidewalk, I'd be like, yeah, no problem, I mean, you're my son.

Speaker 2: 16:41

That's also the thing, like you have to look at, like whether I mean it's not right for everybody. You know he's just going through neighborhood streets and then when he? Pops. That's where the crosswalk lady is and all the things and it's. You know it's very manageable for him to like do it with confidence. It's kind of awesome, yeah.

Speaker 1: 16:58

I'm afraid to let my daughter ride the bus. She's in sixth grade.

Speaker 2: 17:02

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 17:02

They run, they ride with high schoolers. Oh God, it's just like this big like cause. Dripping Springs is still a small town with big city problems. You heard the horror stories of all these like middle school girls in the high school bus and I just can't handle it. So I'm I will, for till the day I die, drive my daughter to school. It's kind of how I feel, even though I know I should probably let it.

Speaker 2: 17:23

I think these are. I mean, you know there's this part of you is like, okay, I need to give my daughter experiences where they learn to be like, taught, like stand up for themselves. But I think, like things like the bus or things like you know, locker rooms, you know, there's just certain places at school where, like it's not a great environment, like you know, bullying happens there, just stuff that you maybe don't want your kid to see too early, or that kind of stuff. It's just like if my kid, you, if he has to like change in the locker room in sixth grade, like, or something like that. Like that to me that's like you know that that's where a lot of that stuff happens. Or riding a bus I mean, he's going to have to ride the bus, go to school, but it is for middle schoolers, like you know, and so I don't know, I mean, I think that's always a discussion, you know, and a decision the parents got to make.

Speaker 2: 18:19

And, if you can, you know, if you can drop your kid off at school. That's quality time too, which you're going to get less and less of from your teenage daughter.

Speaker 1: 18:26

She just wants to listen to Shawn Mendes all the time.

Speaker 2: 18:31

It, yeah. So let's finish this episode. Let's talk about birthdays, because you're, you're, oh yeah, my kid just had a birthday party, okay so the the wildness of the birthday party is the kids the kids birthday culture.

Speaker 1: 18:41

So what do you want to do for your birthday? Hey, you're 12, all that stuff. It's like, oh, I want to this friend and this friend and this, and it's like the month of birthday. So we've been to like four birthday parties. We back to back to back to back, yeah and uh. So it was like what do you want to do? Oh, I want all of these friends to come to high five, which is the lakeway.

Speaker 1: 18:58

You know, bowling you know, yeah, laser tag and the bs and all that stuff. And so it was like, okay, well, yeah, we could do that for a couple hours. We'll pick the kids up, we'll drop them off, make it easy on the parents, because that, I mean, it was founders day in dripping springs was basically shuts down, the city, yeah. So it was like we'll just do it that way and we pick all these kids up, which was a terrible idea, first of all, because it's just all over the place. We go to the spot and then so they have birthday party packages. I was like that's BS, I'm not going to do that. Let's just get a laser tag, let's get a bowling alley, let's get some food, whatever. $626 later, jesus Dude, I mean, and that's just that party.

Speaker 1: 19:38

It doesn't include the fact that, oh, grandparents are coming and they're going to do this and we still got to get our gifts. You know, of course, you got to get the girl gifts. So, anyway, it is the most stressful time of year. I don't think my wife and I used to fight about like the normal stuff. You'd fight about Like, oh, normal stuff. You'd fight about like, oh, you're not doing enough around the house, you're not whatever. Now it's like I, I don't want to do this anymore, I don't want to have birthday parties anymore, and that's kind of what it's. It's almost the worst of the worst that comes out in me. Yeah and uh, there's a lot of factors, but I'm so happy, my daughter turned 12 and I'm so happy for her and I'm excited and I want it to be fun. But now my son's birthday's next month yeah, the end of the month. So how are you going to top that? Like you have to take out a second mortgage just to cover all of the childhood stuff.

Speaker 2: 20:21

It's nuts. I think there should be a rule that, like every other birthday, can be like a big birthday. And then the other one is like a, like a sleepover with two friends. Like it should just be like okay, even years you can have a bash odd years.

Speaker 1: 20:34

Yeah, it's pick your two friends. Next time it'll probably be a little bigger, yeah, but I mean, you know, however, you work it out, but I feel like this should be a thing.

Speaker 2: 20:41

It's not yet, I haven't. I got it, but so with my son, whose birthday is this weekend, so we were looking at like lifetime fitness, because I got the pool and the slides and we're looking at various classic.

Speaker 1: 20:52

He's done. Yeah, go to the gym.

Speaker 2: 20:57

But we're I mean we've done and we've done like the altitude, trampoline parks and stuff like that, and so we're just looking for something a little different. But Jack's always been pretty chill about the birth. We literally had birthday parties at Craig goes pizza, yeah.

Speaker 2: 21:09

Yeah, and we hired like it was at Craig goes and we just hired a guy who was an acrobat who dressed up in a Spider-Man outfit and we didn't tell the kids and then he came to the window this was like five years ago when he was five and he pressed on the glass and everyone was like oh my God, it's Spider-Man. And then he ran and then all the kids were like go, go, go, and we went over to the Sam's Club parking lot and he did like acrobatic, like backflips and all this.

Speaker 1: 21:37

That's wild.

Speaker 2: 21:38

And, of course, you know what the kids are trying to figure out. It's like is this really Spider-Man, right? They're like look at his shoes. Those aren't Spider-Man shoes. I'm like come on Dude.

Speaker 1: 21:46

Why'd you wear those Vans? You know, so did you have. That's kind of awesome.

Speaker 2: 21:53

But this year we're doing it at. We decided to just do it at the house, which sounds like a good idea, and tell you like when you factor in all the stressful? Yeah, there's just so many kids 10

Speaker 2: 22:03

because you know you got the boys, all boys well, there's a couple girls coming, like you know, uh, siblings and stuff like that, so 10 or 11 plus jack um. But we were looking, we were actually looking for a magician, which is harder to hire a magician than I thought. A little bit harder, did you find one. No, we ended up paying. We're going to have a big truck come and it has a whole air-conditioned video game set up.

Speaker 1: 22:27

Dude, that's cool, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 22:28

They're coming from Killeen or somewhere.

Speaker 1: 22:29

Oh yeah, there's a video game on or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so they had. When we were, when I lived in phoenix, I owned a bounce house rental company. Yeah, no, I know the birthday parties. I go to all these birthday parties and every birthday party my kids had, I just bring a bounce house over.

Speaker 1: 22:43

Yeah, so it was like easy, yeah, but uh, there was a I almost got into the industry because it just had started. It was like, uh, well, they got these video game trucks. They're pretty big deal. You can go inside. You can have some tvs outside as well, yeah, um, it just was like I just don't see this lasting. It was like my thought, and now it's like still happening, like, come on, I mean, and it is, it's big money for an hour like you know, I mean and you can four or five hundred bucks, isn't it yeah?

Speaker 2: 23:07

I mean it's, it's up there um a little less for this, but just you know, because we actually we called one of the places that's like notable and they were like we've been booked for months. But he said there's a new guy that just started. I've been sending people to him. People have been really happy with him. Let me give you his number. And that guy had availability.

Speaker 1: 23:28

I used to get to know those guys, because what would happen is a lot of the schools functions and stuff that would hire me. They'd be like, oh, we want this, and so I started like that's how I got event space.

Speaker 2: 23:34

Yeah, you get the network.

Speaker 1: 23:34

Yeah, just take me, I'll do it all.

Speaker 2: 23:36

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 23:37

And you know, upcharge 20% or whatever. It was a big mistake.

Speaker 2: 23:40

I should have never done it, just stick to the bounce house. That's what I knew, man.

Speaker 1: 23:44

Well, that's cool man. Well, happy birthday to him. We can, you know, hang out. Thanks for the invite, by the way, to his birthday party. Thanks for not inviting me. I should say I'm just trying to keep my His birthday's at weddings.

Speaker 2: 24:04

The other goal, besides having a great birthday for my son, is keep my wife's stress level down. Oh yeah, so I have invited no other people other than like friends and their parents.

Speaker 1: 24:21

What I don't understand too, is like it used to be. The parents would stay, yeah.

Speaker 2: 24:23

Now it's like a drop and well, yeah, I think it's the age once they're like nine or ten, you have to tell them hey, it's a drop, or I think, I think that's good, good, good vibes to like, be like hey, y'all, you can drop your kid if you weren't, but don't do it.

Speaker 1: 24:30

If there's beer, I stay yeah, if not, I don't.

Speaker 2: 24:33

Yeah, hey, open, open.

Speaker 1: 24:34

Okay, let's go I think kids' birthdays and weddings. I'll send a gift. Just please don't make me go. Yeah. Like no expectations, I don't, I'll send, I'll be generous even.

Speaker 2: 24:44

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 24:44

I just do not want to go to weddings.

Speaker 2: 24:48

It's the weirdest thing ever.

Speaker 1: 24:50

I love weddings. This guy there, everyone's like oh, look at bart I know it's my wife and I like.

Speaker 2: 24:55

We're like if we could be wedding crashers. It's the dress up it's the day like dancing, to like live music, it's just all those things.

Speaker 1: 25:02

We just love it I was yeah, I don't know, not too much, I don't like fun, fun and me that type of fun. Well, thanks for hanging.

Speaker 2: 25:12

This is great yeah all right, uh hey, dad bods and dumbbells, man rocking, dad bods and dumbbells.

Speaker 1: 25:16

Let's do this, man. It's been a lot of time Brought to you by. Ghost Some crazy energy in a can Open next man. That's great. Thanks, dude.