Table Topics Episode #1: Moon Landing, Rudy, and Taking Zyns

Remember the rush of your first victory or the taste of that unexpected win? That's the energy we're channeling in our latest banter, where we kick back, try out Zyns , and swap tales that'll take you right back to the bleachers. From the gritty inspiration of "Rudy" to the tension in sports movies that's as thick as the final minutes of overtime, we're uncovering what makes these flicks more than just game tapes. 

Conspiracies and cosmos collide as we step from the locker room into the vast expanse of space. Fired up by a recent hot take on the Joe Rogan show, we examine the moon landing debate through a lens of healthy skepticism and wonder. We've roped in Landon, our astrophysicist buddy, to navigate us through the stars and separate science fiction from space fact. And while we're looking skyward, we're also keeping it real with a dive into the intricacies of raising kids in a world where the internet is always on and the city lights never dim.

Finally, we're dishing out a slice of life from both sides of the tracks—how does one keep the heart of a small-town kid while hustling in the big leagues? We share chuckles over the 'big city' label and the quirks of our social media memories. Plus, there's a bonus chuckle on embracing the 'dad bod' life. So, tune in for a session that's as varied as your favorite playlist and just as entertaining.

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Transcript

Favorite Sports Movies and Nicotine Experience

Speaker 1 0:00

What are your feelings on Zenz? I haven't tried it yet. Do you want one?

Speaker 2 0:03

Yeah, fuck, yeah, let's go.

Speaker 1 0:06

It's only three milligrams, so I go bottom and then I don't go top because it goes straight to your head quick Okay. All right, I got a trash can if you need to spit it out. Have you done?

Speaker 2 0:17

have you ever? I'm putting that trash can over this way a little bit In case. I'm just like ah.

Speaker 1 0:21

You're not going to get sick. It's not like tobacco. I threw up one time with a pouch of tobacco Did you put it under your lip. Yeah, no, right here. Okay, not under your tongue.

Speaker 1 0:36

I feel, like it was going to fall out of my mouth. No, you just put it. You put it and you tuck it in your lip. There you go. Perfect, my wife's tried them and she hates them. That's funny. She's like she wanted to know why I like them and I was like, well, why don't you just try one? It keeps me up, it makes me like, give me the pop. Yeah, and it's not like, as Tucker Carlson says, zen is not a sin.

Speaker 2 0:59

He actually said that. The tucker episode with joe rogan, oh my god honestly, it was like when I watched him.

Speaker 1 1:04

I usually don't watch him from beginning to end, but it was like the best dude, I was like addicted to it thanks for watching and listening. Sorry, this is dad bods and dumbbells we're excited. You're here and dumbbells subscribe comment wherever you listen or watch podcasts.

Speaker 2 1:19

Thanks for listening, yeah oh so hey, today a little bit of a different format. We're gonna do this once in a while. This is kind of a spin the bottle throwback to the 90s, except nobody will be kissing. Uh, we're going to have. We have a little uh pen here. We've got several topics written down already. We're gonna spin the pen when it lands on a topic. We'll read it out and then we'll kind of take a couple minutes each to answer them. We're gonna do this for the next 30 minutes let's do it.

Speaker 1 1:45

Let's have fun. I love it. We'll give it a spinzy all right, let's go spinzies.

Speaker 2 1:49

All right, we got right here. We got favorite sports team or sports movie of all time, favorite sports movie all the time I should probably read all these before, so I'd have some idea what's yours oh, I mean because that was your I think it's got to be Rudy. Rudy, first of all, it is a true story, but, like I mean, it's so well done.

Speaker 1 2:10

Quotes True story, you know, based on a true story, based on a true story.

Speaker 2 2:16

Yeah, it was. I mean, it just gets me every time. I remember seeing it in the movie theater.

Speaker 1 2:21

Oh, that's cool, was on a date it was my um, you're keeping that in it was on I was like does it not feel? What are you feeling? I just hate seven.

Speaker 2 2:30

So we had a. We had a. What's?

Speaker 1 2:32

it called zens. We popped the zen under our lip. My dad bought show and I got a straight and uh, no.

Speaker 2 2:39

So I was on this date with this you know girl from the dorms and we went and saw rudy and I'm on the date with her and I start crying at the end like straight crying, like not like weeping, but like are you a bad crier?

Speaker 1 2:52

oh, I'm an ugly cry, I'm a great crier, just like one single tear.

Speaker 2 2:57

Yeah, I was like that was like a tough cry oh, my goodness, and I honestly I think she appreciated it, even though she was like uh, did you marry her?

Speaker 1 3:04

No, well then I think you failed. We hooked up that night. Oh, that's nice. It wasn't meant to be Good for you.

Speaker 2 3:12

So yeah, I don't think it was. I didn't lose.

Speaker 1 3:13

You didn't have to go to a movie Because I wasn't about to have a relationship.

Speaker 2 3:16

I was just on a date, that's true. I've watched that movie several times, even as a director with Camp Gladiator. I used the ending of that movie when they started chanting. Rudy Rudy and I played it as like an inspirational moment to like talk about, like how important this moment in our, in our company's business was, and so I've just it's been such a part and I've we showed our son it's, you know, the movie and all. So it's one of those things that just stands the test of time.

Speaker 1 3:42

You know, I grew up in South Bend area.

Speaker 2 3:44

I know.

Speaker 1 3:45

So we had a family friend that was head of maintenance and so when they were filming Rudy at Notre Dame they're head of maintenance of Notre Dame he was there the entire time helping him and being a part of it. I was like that's so cool, that's awesome. But so here's what I've been thinking, trying to figure out like the my favorite I I want to go with like uh rocky or like uh, I don't know, like uh field of dreams. But I hate sports movies like I for some reason, and the reason is, I'll tell you, because a lot of them are like boxing movies and they stress me out because typically it's like million dollar baby style, like oh, you are down and out, you are like I feel their families are falling apart and it's so like it's always a true story and it's like they have nothing and all they have are just fights, and so they, you know, make ten thousand dollars and it's going to change their life and they get beat to shred or whatever.

Speaker 1 4:41

So I always feel like that underdog story.

Speaker 2 4:43

I hate because it stresses me out Like, yeah, I really don't like watching you empathize too much. I was going to say Seabiscuit. That's a sports movie.

Speaker 1 4:50

There you go. You know, I went to Seabiscuit with a bunch of my friends and uh about how it was packed.

Speaker 2 4:57

But halfway through, I took my shirt off. I don't know why. I don't know why. It's a statement definitely like a burt kreischer moment.

Speaker 1 5:09

It was the four burt kreischer, you know I was like but uh, it crushed, but I also got kicked out of the theater, so that's awesome.

Speaker 2 5:14

Yeah, I mean, if you really think about the various sports movies, I mean that's, you know, it's one of the great genres, uh, you know sports movies and all that kind of stuff because they're usually a lot of times they're historical, so it's like whether it's like an old boxy movie or I honestly feel like I'm not a huge fan of football, like to watch it on a Sunday, but I think football often makes the best sports movies because the drama of like a team has to come together and like the kind of battle of it all is so easy to portray on the screen because so you just like a.

Speaker 2 5:47

Like a friday night lights tv show yeah, filmed here in austin.

Speaker 1 5:50

It's a good point.

Speaker 2 5:51

Like you, know, just it makes for great drama and it really, like, highlights the character of the individual, because it's such a hard sport to be good at and to, like you know, have that kind of toughness I do like the team ones. That is true so the individual ones.

Speaker 1 6:06

they stress me out. So Rudy was okay. I mean it was a classic one, but I mean Jon Favreau making his debut crushing it, but I think for me the team's probably good. So if I was going to pick one, Dude.

Speaker 2 6:19

Vince Vaughn was in that as the third string quarterback. Yeah, you're right, you know, the pouty quarterback is like. You just summed up your entire career in that one statement.

Speaker 1 6:31

Dude man, I got to watch it. I got to watch it again. I guess I don't watch it, by the way, I'm so buzzed.

Speaker 2 6:36

right now from that, I'm so buzzed.

Speaker 1 6:40

Dude, you're such a weak. Your body's a temple, baby.

Speaker 2 6:43

I haven't put nicotine in my body. In I mean 20 years.

Speaker 1 6:47

Really, that's your first nicotine. You're buzzing pretty good. Well, I mean I and it's gone. You spit it out.

Speaker 2 6:53

I mean when I lived in New York City, I literally had smoked cigarettes. You know American Spirits.

Speaker 1 6:58

I don't know, american Spirits don't count as cigarettes. When we count cigarettes, they're awesome, yeah, but anyway.

Speaker 2 7:02

I haven't put nicotine in my body for like 20 years, brother.

Speaker 1 7:06

I used to love to smoke cloves. Oh wow, cloves cigarettes. Before Obama changed the law, you can't get them in America. They're cloves cigars they're harsh now. But if you go to Europe they still sell them.

Speaker 2 7:23

So, when I went to.

Speaker 1 7:23

Europe with my wife. We bought a pack and smoked them nonstop. It was the best, I mean, I did. She didn't, she did not.

Speaker 2 7:29

Alright, moving on. Hey, good start. I like this, our camera went off, I think.

Speaker 1 7:35

Was it still going? I don't know if that thing does anything. Oh yeah, it does. There you go, wasn't filming. All right, we're back, let's do a spinzy.

Speaker 2 7:51

My turn. Spin it up, buddy.

Speaker 1 7:53

All right, oh, go-to cheat meal. I like that one. I'm excited about it. What's yours? What?

Speaker 2 7:58

is your go-to cheat meal, mine, I would say, just like a meat lover's lasagna.

Speaker 1 8:05

Do you have like a place or like a recipe, like what's your place to go get it?

Speaker 2 8:09

I love going to Italian restaurants and just like saying, give me your best lasagna. And just like I feel like Garfield in that way. I just like you know like I mean, I grew up reading Garfield comics and I just always so. I think lasagna always had this, like it's the special dish you eat when you're a king. Right Garfield, the king of his domain, is eating lasagna, but yeah, I love a super deep, cheese-filled meat, lots of meat. That's a good point. You know ground turkey, or chicken or beef or whatever.

Speaker 1 8:41

Yeah, ground turkey's healthy, whatever they put in there.

Speaker 2 8:44

I don't even ask. I don't like, I want sauce, I don't want everything. It's you know, just putting it down, that's the best.

Speaker 1 8:50

That's awesome. What about you, lasagna? But lots of like French bread dipping you know, oh yeah, because you've got to like clean up the sauce, I could eat pizza every day of the week. Yeah, and that's how I've gotten this dad bod.

Speaker 2 9:05

So like I would go there's, there's.

Speaker 1 9:07

This place, I mean Yagi's is close to it, Like being New York style kind of like foldable all cheese. I like that. I like a cheese pizza, so I'll go like I don't know Um you know or like you know, you go to Mandola's or whatever. They have the of brick oven ones.

Speaker 1 9:24

And, uh, I could just fold them up and just I could pound a whole pizza in very quick time, you know, and so for me it's always been pizza. But there was this place that kind of got me like, really got me into pizza in, uh, in Goshen, indiana, where I grew up I don't know it was an L cart.

Speaker 1 9:40

Well, where I grew up I don't know if it was an Elkhart, we had to drive for it, but it was a nice place. I used to take our first dates there all the time because I loved their pizza so much, you're like I've got to find out how much you like pizza.

Speaker 2 9:48

I would order the pizza Because it's a deal breaker.

Speaker 1 9:50

Every time at this place and it was Abuelos Abuelos, I'll remember restaurant. I knew the guy because I was a part of the bni at the business network group yeah and he was the president of the group, and so I'd go and it was just like he'd always treat me like a king, and then I'd always get the big pizza.

Speaker 2 10:09

Oh man, they just want to have pizza, good I mean, I think pizza could always be the answer to that question I think you're right you know you're talking about bread. You got pizza sauce, you got cheese.

Moon Landing Conspiracy Debate

Speaker 1 10:20

I mean it's I Italian food in general, I think is a good cheat meal. There's just something about the carbs that just make me feel so good yeah. Or or a beer. It was a good cheat meal for me, but I don't.

Speaker 2 10:32

Cheat drink.

Speaker 1 10:32

Cheat drink all day.

Speaker 2 10:34

All right.

Speaker 1 10:34

Spinzies, I hope we get to mine. Yes, all right, this one, this one I wanted to put, and I don't think Bart was super excited. Uh, what do you?

Speaker 2 10:46

feel about uh faking of the moon landing, yes or no? So this is in reference to a recent uh Rogan episode where he had like uh guy named Bart yeah, you guys know each other no, we don't, interestingly enough. Um so you know I don't know that much about it. You know you hear just like every, there's flat earthers and there's this and that.

Speaker 2 11:03

So as I was listening to, I didn't listen to the whole three hours you didn't, I did not, I listened the whole thing I believe you did, but you know you started talking about like the radiation um the challenge of getting getting through the radiation belt and I said I did not, I didn't know about that, and so, like that, that made me think I need to do more research there did nasa but this is the thing that always like kind of boggles my mind is like you, you find these obscure references to like something that sees it seems like impenetrable.

Speaker 2 11:34

Yeah, but if that was the case, you know, I mean not that neil degrasse, tyson or someone like that is like you know the end all be be-all. But like there's scientists, they're they're not propagandists like they're out there to like solve the questions of the universe. I'm not saying, I'm not saying they're like they're part of the cover-up, but it just seems the idea that every like astrophysicist is in cahoots to like not everyone.

Speaker 1 12:03

See, that's the thing. Oh sorry, I I I don't think they were so compartmentalized. It's similar to area 51 yeah it's just like the bob lazar thing he had one specific role he didn't know what anybody else was doing. He just happened upon seeing some stuff that he shouldn't have. Yeah, so, like I think they were so compartmentalized, they were focused on one goal there was and they were trying to make it happen and they had enough things go right, ish that ultimately they had to. They had to have a backup. So this is what happened.

Speaker 1 12:33

This is what I think. All right, let's tell so. And I'm not going off a bar. I did not like that guy, by the way I thought he was. He sounded like a doofus, he sounded like a crazy person and he's like I was a big moon landing fan. Now I'm not, you know, I was like. It just seemed weird.

Speaker 2 12:45

Yeah, because it's like anytime he was obsessed about one about the moon landing and then he was obsessed about disproving the moon, like, yeah, he just seems like a little bit off.

Speaker 1 12:55

And here's the thing. I think anything that needs to anytime you define a word and use the word that you're defining in the definition, that's bs and that's similar to what he's doing in his like science stuff is the way he's describing, is he's using? Yeah, there's a few things that make sense, but ultimately I think the radiation bomb is the biggest sign. Here's right. They've said multiple times they do not have the technology to be able to bring anybody in and out of that safely. They didn't know that in 1969. And so who would have thought that technology would be so advanced right now and people would be continually trying to get into the moon and then discovering that ultimately you can't get to the moon because we don't have the technology to do it? Now, all the camera stuff which I do, I do see, I know, but Neil deGrasse Tyson says it did happen, but he, I know, but Neil deGrasse Tyson says it did happen, but he, I mean science, come on, come on, we can do better than that. Science, science and stuff.

Speaker 2 13:50

Anyway, I just don't trust scientists anymore. You know, I don't, I don't. I would need to go down a rabbit hole. I would need to call some people that I, that I feel like Do you know somebody knows?

Speaker 1 13:57

Like do you know somebody in no?

Speaker 2 13:59

not that we'd know that it was. I would just want to talk to somebody who's an astrophysicist and have them explain.

Speaker 1 14:07

I'll call my boy Landon, let's go. Landon Ashworth, I think we need to have him we should have him on the podcast.

Speaker 2 14:12

I'm down with having him on the podcast because, even if it kind of differs, it kind of goes a little bit outside of our fatherhood fitness and guy stuff Dude, he's an awesome dude. It's in the guy stuff realm, so we need to.

Speaker 1 14:22

He wrote a book. It's so good I can't wait to sell it. Let's get him on. So he is an astrophysicist. He was joining NASA. He wanted to go to space. They stopped the space program the moment that he tried to apply and they just shut it down. So he went through the whole process to do I would trust land.

Speaker 2 14:39

Okay, here's the other thing. I would. Here's the other thing. So, elon, you know, in his like trips to Mars, like he's never brought up this issue, Now it may be the that the radiation belt is between us and the moon and therefore it doesn't affect going to Mars.

Speaker 1 14:59

There is a way around it, but it's like you have to be precise.

Speaker 2 15:02

But but in his, in his immense research to figure out how to go to Mars, which he's basing an entire company, which is a on space X which is publicly traded, do you think that he would not run into?

Speaker 1 15:16

he wouldn't say anything, because then this whole, the whole premise of going to Mars is null and void, man.

Speaker 2 15:22

But and the whole premise of going to Mars is null and void, man. But why? There's a little bit To me. Elon doesn't even put out the idea of going to Mars if it's not obviously possible. And then, if it is possible, but because of a variable that they couldn't get around with going to the moon, then it just you know what I mean. Like, elon doesn't have any reason to not like mention.

Speaker 1 15:48

Oh, by the way, he's going to, going to mars would be billions of dollars. He does, he says anything, he loses, everything like.

Speaker 2 15:56

But here's the thing here's the thing, about, about all this stuff is. Everybody involved in the moon landing or faking the moon landing is dead, just like everyone involved in buzz aldrin's not well, but it's like everyone involved in in jfk's assassination is dead right everyone that was. We can do that forever allegedly allegedly.

Speaker 2 16:18

My point is like is is the same, it's not the same people running the same governmental organization that is stopping, like you know what I mean. It's just there's so much that has to happen, like to keep this all, like you know, packaged up and sold to the public forever. I don't know. That's where I get a little like. I mean, I'm a big fan of the conspiracies behind like oh, let's, let's question everything. But I mean, in order for something like this to be like public domain, like and and and, if it wasn't true, wouldn't like every other country like china, and and russia and all the other countries that are like in competition with us to be the best, that wouldn't? They just be like completely like trying to like I don't again.

Speaker 1 17:05

Okay, you bring it up. Did you hear this part of the?

Speaker 2 17:06

bar.

Speaker 1 17:06

No, I didn't okay so he says they do know. Yeah, china and russia know that we did not go to the moon. Yeah, and that is why we share all of our, all of our technology with china china gets all.

Speaker 2 17:18

Just don't tell it that's over, like we'll share everything they're pulling over our heads.

Speaker 1 17:21

They have like all of the. That's why they are at the same level as we, because we just basically so that that's that was brought up.

Speaker 2 17:29

That was brought up, yeah um, that's, we don't have to talk about it. I can seriously talk about this forever the biggest con, I mean, you know, I mean like if, if they had too much at stake to not be the first. I know, I know, I understand the other side of it is a positive lie, right, positive outcome lie.

Speaker 1 17:46

So it makes us feel good, it makes us feel nationally, it makes us feel all those things, and the other side of it, too, is like people don't want to believe it's not true, right?

Speaker 2 17:54

So you start getting to that point where it's like what?

Speaker 1 17:56

person in our office watched it as a kid. So it's like I mentioned that in staff meeting one day and it's like, uh, well, I saw it. It's like, well, did you see it, or did you see a studio shot?

Speaker 2 18:07

it's kind of like the positive lie that jordan's the goat.

Speaker 1 18:11

I'm kidding, I'm gonna put that one in there dude, I don't know no, no, there's some great basketball being played, though in the playoffs all right, let's spin it.

Speaker 2 18:21

We've got four more here. Oh, here we go. Another movie, movie that makes you cry. Movie that makes you cry.

Speaker 1 18:33

What makes me cry consistently, remember the movie Crash. It was that story of that.

Speaker 2 18:41

Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 18:41

Yeah, with the blanks and the gun. I don't want to give a spoiler alert.

Speaker 2 18:46

Was it Matt Damon? Were you like?

Speaker 1 18:48

drags drags a girl, matt Dillon.

Speaker 2 18:50

Matt Dillon Sorry yeah, but drags drags a girl out of the car, the burning car. He's like kind of a racist cop, yep, but then he saves the girl. Like it super connected. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 19:00

And then this little girl man, I'm going to cry thinking about it. There's a little girl, her dad, like they were in a bad neighborhood and you know, it was like there was drive-bys and stuff, and so he gave his dad. She gave his dad, gave her a little cape and said this cape is bulletproof, you'll be, safe this guy who did the door thing. You know you have to watch the movie, but that basically was had a gun pointed at him, yeah, and the little girl came running and jumped in to his arms and said I'll, I'll protect you, daddy.

Speaker 1 19:30

It was like that guy shoots the gun. It's a blank, because the daughter didn't want his dad to have a gun. Crazy gets me, gets choked up all the time. That was even before I had kids. Now it's just like anything with kids. Bluey, I watched a blue episode and like oh, just the worst.

Speaker 2 19:45

I, you know, I always think it's like it's interesting what makes you cry, because when I was in acting school, they talk about like you're like the emotional cord, that like really, that when you, when you play a role that has like a specific emotional like scene, it just triggers basically like a like a just a primal response, like and that's one of the reasons why people can cry on demand is they like they tap into something, like they think of their mother, their grandmother, somebody important to them and their passing or something?

Speaker 2 20:13

like that and it and triggers that immediate emotional response. And so a lot of times when a movie makes you cry uh, it's you, it's based on, there's a theme behind it. So like when you, when you start seeing, you know, oh I cry when that girl jumps in front of her dad and saves her and kind of saves her dad even though we know it's a blank, yeah like there's uh, we didn't know it at the time, I thought she was dead.

Speaker 1 20:34

Yeah, yeah, you think, you think, oh my god, she's.

Speaker 2 20:37

She did like the horror of this guy telling her to wear this cape and then he's going to keep her bulletproof or whatever.

Speaker 1 20:44

But we didn't even talk about how dumb that girl must have been. A bulletproof cape.

Speaker 2 20:48

I mean come on.

Speaker 1 20:49

Anyway.

Speaker 2 20:50

Let's not go there, jesus, it's a movie, dude, sorry go ahead, but you know the.

Speaker 2 20:58

For me it's, it's so much of. It is like loyalty and like friendship and like, and like the recognition of like, when somebody's finally recognized for the, for, like the, the, you know the work, the effort, the, the, the um, you know the, the hard, whatever they've done to like you know show themselves as a true friend or as a, as a, you know, like a good human being. I could it's kind of a redemption, I think, for me. I get a lot of, I cry with like kind of redemption type movies.

Speaker 1 21:27

Yeah, when was the last movie?

Speaker 2 21:28

you cried at Uh, good one, um, I can't remember specifically, but uh, I always cry like Shawshank, you know, towards the end of Shawshank, when, when, like not when he stands gets out of the sewer and and like screams freedom or whatever, but like, but like that ending part where he where, where what's his name? Morgan?

Speaker 1 21:51

Morgan. Friedman, like kind of walks towards the beach and it's like that, like you know that they weird, that that's the spot, because I thought like I got emotional when he realized Tim Robbins realized that there's no way he's going to get out Like it's against.

Speaker 2 22:08

Like because that guy gets killed or whatever. Right, right, he realizes.

Speaker 1 22:11

And then when we think Morgan Freeman's going to kill himself, like remember that scene with the gun or whatever, it was crazy.

Speaker 2 22:23

So anyway, that crazy. So anyway, that's good. Well, let's hit it. What else we got? All right, three more. I will just say oh, oh, I love this, so why was? Ricky stinicki. So damn funny. Now, caveat here not everybody likes this movie. I was like who?

Speaker 1 22:33

okay, so let me tell you a little backstory.

Speaker 2 22:34

I know so after I saw the movie I went to my. I was running my boot camp at 5.30 am and I'm like all right, everybody movie you got to see this weekend Ricky Snicky it's on Amazon Prime. And then on Monday I show up and one guy walks up. He's like I'd like 90 minutes of my life back.

Speaker 1 22:55

And I'm like you got to be in the right movie.

Speaker 2 22:56

No, and I realized I sold it a little bit like as a good movie and not just as like this is like the hangover type humor Like I needed to like hey, this is a movie you have a beer and like laugh at and because you have nothing else to do and you're not like invested in, like the amount of time you're putting in, but you're, you want to just like laugh until your face hurts Like cause. I laughed until like literally the muscles in the back of my skull.

Speaker 2 23:21

We're so tired of laughing like losing my hangover, like that was the last time I've ever really laughed at a movie the whole time well, and you know you hear a lot of uh comedians talk about kind of like comedy movies are dead, uh, and you know like you go back to like something about mary and some of those like yeah, you know that just went all the way because no Tropic Thunder.

Speaker 1 23:41

Yeah, oh yeah, one of the best movies of all time.

Speaker 2 23:44

You know, the best part of Tropic Thunder is listening, like when the DVD had like the um commentary commentary and and uh and, robert Downey Jr played his character through the entire comedy and then, right at the end, right at the end, he finally dropped out of character. So it was like he delivered the role all the way until the very end of the commentary and then finally at the very end, when the credits were rolling, he went into his own voice and it was like I haven't listened to a commentary in a while.

Speaker 2 24:11

You can't do that anymore, because you would buy the DVD and then you'd get the commentary it's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 24:19

That's a cool way to see a movie.

Movie Review and Career Inspiration

Speaker 2 24:20

Yeah, so let's go to Ricky Sinicki. So, ricky.

Speaker 1 24:22

Sinicki. I think the humor behind it was it was such a, it was like these guys, it was a combination of things. I think it was genuinely funny in the sense that there's this big guy and he's a big F up, like he's the worst of the worst and everybody hates him, and then he, in this moment, takes it so seriously.

Speaker 1 24:43

He's like I'm gonna perform the way that I need to perform yeah and then it wasn't, like it was never a disaster, like it seemed like it would be something where it's like oh, he's gonna mess up or he's not it was actually he was like really successful in this new space and everyone's like what is going on, and I think his interaction with each individual person and I mean the cast was incredible yeah I think it was. I think it was awesome.

Speaker 2 25:04

I like zach efron so much better now yeah, and I think I think the writers did a good job at like not being cliche with, like the jokes yes you know, when they were like trying to give uh, was they kind of roofy like the um uh, you know they were trying to get r yeah, and then it ended up like the rabbi. I don't know if it was ecstasy or something you know it was. It was some sort of like, but all, all just the you know.

Speaker 2 25:29

And then, and Ricky actually like circumcises the kid and just, and you know it, points out that the boss has hair implants and all that Just. I mean they just did a lot of really funny twists and turns because you knew how it was going to go. You knew he was going to get found out. You knew that you were in on the joke, but they were good enough in the writing to like take you, zig you and zag you so that you never like kind of saw it coming.

Speaker 1 25:54

And I didn't know how they were going to end it. And I was happy with how they ended it, Like how it all kind of came full circle. But I think they ended it like how it all kind of came full circle, yeah, but I think the reason probably a woman wouldn't like it is I mean, there's a lot of lying. It's a pretty heavy lie oh it's.

Speaker 2 26:05

You know the whole movie's based on a lie.

Speaker 1 26:07

I mean you have to kind of forgive them for that think about like the fact, if I did that to my wife, I'd be like there's no way, there's no coming back from right, like you, you've made up a story your entire life.

Speaker 2 26:20

yeah, like, come on, that's a character flaw.

Speaker 1 26:23

But the only way it comes full circle is Ricky Stinicki actually like is a good guy Like he?

Speaker 2 26:29

just needed a shot, you know he just needed that opportunity. Well, I think there's two movies in it really. You have the first half of the movie is like them their lie and then introducing Ricky and how he kind of infiltrates the family, and then the second half of the movie is like when he gets hired by the boss that is so great so it's like you almost kind of feel like how are they going to continue this story?

Speaker 2 26:50

it kind of had an ending halfway through the movie and then there's this other half of the movie which kind of culminates in such a, I mean just, you know I just, I love when movies recommend it without the kids.

Speaker 1 27:02

Yeah, I I it just.

Speaker 2 27:04

It went all the places that you know. You just have to go along for the roller coaster, right, you know?

Speaker 1 27:08

yeah and realize it's not real life you can get it yeah, well, it's funny. I I listened to uh john cena. He was on uh armchair expert with the deck um shepherd, jack shepherd yeah. And just explaining like his career and how he got where he's at. I mean, he's just a driver man. Yeah, he's just pull up by his bootstraps. He's a nobody, that shouldn't be anywhere and he just did it. You know, it's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 27:33

Well, I mean, you always like people like. Oh. I wonder how he got successful. One of the things that he did early on he moved to LA.

Speaker 2 27:41

He got a job at Gold's Gym Venice which is the bodybuilding mecca he was working behind the counter which gave him a free membership so he could work out. He knew he wanted to become kind of an Arnold. He needed to get jacked. He wanted to get and that introduced him wwe and all those types of things like it's like sometimes, that like humbly move of like I'm not going to become a, you know, overnight success. I need to go put myself in a place where I can, you know, afford the membership and eat for free or just be around the right people you know and do that for several years before yeah it's.

Speaker 1 28:19

I think it goes back to what we talked about uh a while back was just going through that door, like, yeah, he had a vision, but he probably didn't even envision where he'd be at based on those steps, but it was like he's just gonna go through this door because this is his passion yeah this is what he's not based on feedback, just like. This is what I want to do yeah, um I think that's pretty cool yeah it's a pretty cool story.

Parenting and Technology

Speaker 2 28:40

I'm a john cena fan now me too yeah all right, let's see it we've got two more, so we're just going with the one that's closest. Yeah, let's just pick this one, all right did I write that one? That was me uh, how old should kids wait to get a smartphone?

Speaker 1 28:55

oh never, they're my kids are never getting smartphones.

Speaker 2 28:59

18 when they leave the house, they can get one, right Maybe? I mean I have so much responsibility.

Speaker 1 29:04

There's no way it messes with the kids' brains, man.

Speaker 2 29:08

The longer I can keep my kid off any kind of social media, because they're already so. My son is already like he's such an addictive personality In a really good way, but also in the exact way that would make social media and that kind of stuff just like a total train wreck for him. Um, and so yeah, I mean it's like I don't see any point.

Speaker 1 29:28

Yeah, every study shows it's negative effects on kids and I just I mean definitely not social media, but I think, but you?

Speaker 2 29:36

can't, like. You can't disconnect a smartphone with not oh, but you can't be on social media. They'll figure out a way.

Speaker 1 29:42

I'm going to get a. Yeah, my daughter found YouTube. We have a house cell phone and I deleted everything. So it's just like, hey, if you need us, you can call us from here. And sure enough, I was looking at because my YouTube is connected to everything so I can see what the kids are watching if they get on YouTube. They're not allowed to YouTube Kids is even like sketchy. So I was like don't ever do this Like you can find stuff you shouldn't find.

Speaker 2 30:04

Right yeah.

Speaker 1 30:05

Um, I told him a reason. It was like don't just listen to me. I was like I, this is why. And uh, sure enough man. I see these things pop up, but you recently watched and I was like, well, wow, I was not expecting that. I mean, I was even expecting more of that. But I think, smartphones, here's what I think you should do. This is what I'm going to do.

Speaker 2 30:29

Go for it.

Speaker 1 30:29

Flip phones.

Speaker 1 30:31

I think they just need to have one function and that's the call. And so even texting, I don't want to do the text thing. It's like let's just go back to call me. If you want to do the text thing, it's like let's just go back to call me if you need me. Here's your phone. This is an emergency. Keep it as simple as possible. They're going to be the less cool kids. I had to borrow my dad's work flip phone when I was a junior in high school to go Cause I was going to Fort Wayne, Indiana, with some friends you know and I think the other side of it I agree with you completely.

Speaker 2 30:55

The other side of it is you got to keep them scheduled in activities that are more important to them than getting on a phone and texting their friends, so, like if your kid has a whole bunch of downtime like you, you don't expect them to be happy with not having like what they're all their friends have, which is a you know apple, iphone or whatever you know if, if. But if they're like going to music and they got you know football or basketball, and then they got this in the weekends and you're creating a schedule that is busy and is full.

Speaker 1 31:27

I think that's a good one.

Speaker 2 31:29

Yeah, you can't just expect them to toe the line if you're not.

Speaker 1 31:33

They need to go out and play too. I mean, they need to just be able to do it. I love what you do with your son and you allow him to walk from school. That's cool, it's scary.

Speaker 2 31:47

I don what you do with your son and you allow him to walk and to walk from school. Yeah, that's cool, it's scary, I don't like it, but uh, but I mean, if my son had to walk down the the main highway, we wouldn't let that happen. So then it's always so much. That is proximity and what the neighborhood looks like.

Speaker 1 31:52

Cool man yeah, I'm afraid my kids will get lost immediately.

Speaker 2 31:55

All right, last one last one how are we doing on time?

Speaker 1 31:58

we're about 30 minutes minutes. We're good. All right, I'll make this one quick. It's a long question.

Speaker 2 32:03

This is kind of a. This is giving kids more freedom to fail. Ooh.

Speaker 1 32:07

I like that, or just kind of going that, like walking home on their own. Yeah, that's a good one. I mean, what does that look like to you?

Speaker 2 32:24

You know, I think this is one and the ways that kids get hurt or bullied. It's so easy to just helicopter, helicopter and just keep a safety net over your or a parachute over your kid's development. But one of the things that they're seeing more and more with child psychology is that the more kids have that you know, in fact the more kids have like mental health, like professional, like working with them if they're on medications or they're being looked after, the less resilient they're actually becoming as adults, the more likely they're going to stay home and live at home and just like, maybe work, but come back, come back to the house, is we're not?

Speaker 2 33:04

we're not giving them those opportunities to find confidence. Where dad's not around, mom's not around, like, oh, it's me, and it's part of the reason why walking home from school, it's, it's my son walking home from school. You know when, when, when, when he doesn't have an afterschool activity, you know it's, it's, it's my son walking home from school. You know when, when, when, when he doesn't have an afterschool activity, you know it's. It's, it's a little bit of confidence that he's building doing something on his own where we're not like leading him through it and that kind of stuff. And I think that if we, if we forget how important teaching a kid to be independent is, they're never going to want it because they're always going to be afraid of it.

Speaker 1 33:39

Yeah, and I mean we project a lot on our kids right, at least I do. It seems like where I think I don't want them to fail, I want them to succeed. I don't want them to have the experiences I had in high school or middle school or junior high. I want them to feel free to do what they feel passionate about and be good at it. So, like I think this is the heart of it, my son seems like he's good at everything. He's a very good looking kid, so it's like he's not gonna have any problems. I feel like I should probably, like you know, take him down a few notches.

Speaker 1 34:09

You know, like start getting things in his head like gaslight him a little bit.

Speaker 2 34:12

Pump the brakes, buddy.

Speaker 1 34:13

Yeah, but my daughter, you know, being a girl in this world is tough, and so when she started sixth grade, which was middle school, I was dropping her off the first day and you know it's overwhelming. There's so many kids at this school and it's a great school. It's just like packed full of middle school and she's the lowest rung First day. There's seventh graders, eighth graders. It's a different element and, yeah, she has friends, she has a group. But it overwhelmed her to the point where she just started crying. She's like Dad, don't let me get in there, don't let me go in there. It just breaks your heart.

Speaker 1 34:46

I was like why don't we just park and we wait and we can talk about it? So we parked and I talked to her for a good 20 minutes Because she's like I don't want to be crying when I go in. It's like that. I said you know you're going to have to go in, but I'll be here as long as you need me to be here. You know, you don't have to rush it, you don't have to worry about that, and that for me it was probably as close as I'll go to. Hey, I want to protect you, but also like hey this is you can't just quit school.

Speaker 2 35:22

And you can't walk into school with her and walk her to class. Yeah, so you, you had to like kind of take a moment to like connect and make her feel like loved and listened to and and like validate her emotions. Yeah, but still with the expectations that, hey, we're gonna get out and deal with this I never had that.

Speaker 1 35:32

You know, like I, we change schools a lot and I I'm thankful for the ability to be able to go into any situation and be okay, yeah, but like I didn't have the luxury of crying, like I don't want to leave this school or I don't, I'm going to have to make all new friends, like I was just told this is what we're doing, and so to be able to, to be able to have somebody probably, and just say like hey, it's okay, you're going to have to do this, but you're going to be fine and we're going to be able to look at the next phase and the next phase and be able to go back to that. Like I just got a notification email from a teacher at the school that said Fiona won an award and they don't give out participation trophies like they did in elementary school. Like she actually got this award, and so it's like so I can be able to go to it and say look at what you've accomplished.

Speaker 1 36:17

Like to it and say, look at what you've accomplished, like, look at how much you've done, to go from. I don't want to go, I want to quit school, like just take me home to winning an award for whatever it is, I don't know, but that means that I have to go to the school now and watch it which I'm okay with it's just it's very hard to get in and out of those stupid schools but I guess I'll get through it.

Speaker 2 36:35

I'll get through it. You know the thing about dripping springs where you live live too is there's a small town kind of high school vibe of if you live in Dripping and who you know and you're going to bump into a lot of people that you're from the church or from this or that.

Speaker 1 36:50

I love that part of it, except when last weekend was Founders Day, where everybody's drinking a ton of beer. And it's like I hope I don't see anybody. I know and it's everybody, but we're all in the same boat, I guess you know.

Speaker 2 37:01

No, it is, it's funny like at Lifetime Fitness, because that's also like a big high school.

Speaker 1 37:06

Yeah, the gym.

Speaker 2 37:07

I mean literally. There's like 15,000 members At that Lifetime really.

Speaker 1 37:11

I mean it's insane, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 37:26

It's the third country is what they? Uh, yeah, there's not much else out there, like as far as gyms go, well, it's just it's there are, but like, it's just, it's kind of well, it's well put together in terms of, like, the demographic in that area. But anyway, like, and I just people will come up to me all the time because I'm you know as tall as I am, I think people just like, oh, there's that guy, and so like a lot of like dads or people that I, I guess I supposed to know, I don't know who they are they walk up and they're like hey, You're like the mayor of Lifetime.

Speaker 2 37:41

They're like, hey, I know you're from Home Corridor because I'm a coach at one of the basketball leagues and so you get this kind of social thing that's going on there. But yeah, it doesn't. But drip bean is different, because I train out in drip bean from once in a while. I love it.

Speaker 1 38:00

It's a great. It reminds me of growing up in a small town without being small-minded, like I felt like growing up, everybody was going to stay there. Yeah, my small high school which most of them did.

Speaker 1 38:11

Yeah, shout out. Napanee, indiana. You know like everybody stayed and I was the one that got out. But I always felt like I don't mind knowing everybody. The problem is I felt like everybody was very much like I'm gonna work at jaco and I'm gonna build rvs and that's our jane and stone, all my buddies work there and it's like that's what we're gonna do. Right, because that's what you do and you marry your high school sweetheart, which there's nothing wrong with that. But at the same time, I was like this is it? I feel like something bigger out there. Yeah, dripping's like a combo of those things. Everybody's very, it's different and it's only getting bigger. So it's like pretty soon we're not going to have fun. I know the elementary school is going to have. We have seven elementary schools all around.

Speaker 2 38:50

Yeah.

Speaker 1 38:50

But the actual Dripping Springs one is going to be 1,100 kids there next year. It's like it's just wild. It's like a high school had to do that. Like well, we're gonna get three portables. I'm like great man, that's awesome.

Small Town Mentality vs Big City

Speaker 2 39:02

So but they, they do a good job, but I love it. But I think it's a cool thing to have, like you know, that smaller town feel, but also with a mentality that like isn't just like small town, because I think that you're talking about that like kind of mindset of like, oh, there's nothing else, oh, look at the big city whenever I go back. Oh, look at the big city boy you know it's, it's like I'm going to come back. You just roll your eyes.

Speaker 1 39:19

Yeah, like give me a break here. Oh, look at Mitch. Oh, are you going to be like? Big time man People used to always yeah, they were like oh, I didn't think you were going to ever talk to us again. You know, like give me a break.

Speaker 2 39:31

People project so much I hate.

Speaker 1 39:32

Facebook for I was getting up in high school. Oh, that's funny. All right, that was fun, man, we hit some. It was a good target.

Speaker 2 39:43

I think this will be something we'll do every every five or six episodes.

Speaker 1 39:45

I love it.

Speaker 2 39:46

Kind of a popcorn topics and things like that.

Speaker 1 39:49

Yeah, we fake the moon landing people. That's what we did.

Speaker 2 39:51

That's what I learned. Thanks for enjoying our silliness and enjoying dad bod.