Can creatine truly enhance both your workout performance and your brainpower? Join us on Dad Bods and Dumbbells as Mitch and Bart shed light on the myriad benefits of creatine supplementation. We'll jump into the science behind creatine, debunk common myths, and discuss its specific advantages for muscle energy storage and cognitive functions. Whether you're a strength trainer or a vegetarian looking to boost your mental acuity, this segment has valuable insights on proper dosages and potential side effects to keep you informed.
Are you maximizing your workouts? Discover the often-overlooked importance of full range of motion exercises in strength training. We bring expert insights from Dr. Mike Israetel and techniques from Ben Patrick, the "knees over toes guy" to explain how these practices can lead to optimal muscle growth and joint health. As we age, maintaining flexibility and strength becomes crucial. Learn how to adapt your fitness routines to stay active and healthy, with practical advice on exercises that ensure long-term mobility and muscle activation.
Parenting challenges meet personal development in our final discussion. Mitch shares heartfelt stories about raising his demanding daughter, emphasizing the parallels between consistent discipline in parenting and maintaining personal routines for health. Hear about creative reward systems, the importance of leading by example, and the impact of small, consistent changes in both family life and personal well-being. From enforcing consequences without physical punishment to finding balance in daily routines, this episode offers valuable strategies for juggling family responsibilities and self-improvement goals. Tune in, get inspired, and transform your approach to both parenting and personal health!
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Can creatine truly enhance both your workout performance and your brainpower? Join us on Dad Bods and Dumbbells as Mitch and Bart shed light on the myriad benefits of creatine supplementation. We'll jump into the science behind creatine, debunk common myths, and discuss its specific advantages for muscle energy storage and cognitive functions. Whether you're a strength trainer or a vegetarian looking to boost your mental acuity, this segment has valuable insights on proper dosages and potential side effects to keep you informed.
Are you maximizing your workouts? Discover the often-overlooked importance of full range of motion exercises in strength training. We bring expert insights from Dr. Mike Israetel and techniques from Ben Patrick, the "knees over toes guy" to explain how these practices can lead to optimal muscle growth and joint health. As we age, maintaining flexibility and strength becomes crucial. Learn how to adapt your fitness routines to stay active and healthy, with practical advice on exercises that ensure long-term mobility and muscle activation.
Parenting challenges meet personal development in our final discussion. Mitch shares heartfelt stories about raising his demanding daughter, emphasizing the parallels between consistent discipline in parenting and maintaining personal routines for health. Hear about creative reward systems, the importance of leading by example, and the impact of small, consistent changes in both family life and personal well-being. From enforcing consequences without physical punishment to finding balance in daily routines, this episode offers valuable strategies for juggling family responsibilities and self-improvement goals. Tune in, get inspired, and transform your approach to both parenting and personal health!
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Speaker 2:Today we're going to talk creatine, hair loss, turning 50, and just some tough conversations about raising kids.
Speaker 1:Sounds good. Enjoy the show. So, creatine, is it actually helpful, like does it do much of anything, cause I've never taken it.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, it's one of those really interesting things, cause it's one of the most studied supplements on the market and you know, I think it got some bad press early on. There was some funny, some weird study where this guy or this person was taking a ton of creatine and had liver issues, and so they like said, well, creatine is bad on your liver, and then it turned out that the guy had liver stuff that had nothing to do with creatine.
Speaker 1:He was an alcoholic Cirrhosis of the kidney or something, but anyway so.
Speaker 2:so it's very, very well studied. There's very little side effects other than like if you take too much you can get some like gastrointestinal, just like discomfort so what's a good amount to take every day?
Speaker 1:you know the um. Do you take the basic?
Speaker 2:amount is is five grams, which is a scoop, right, or you know, depending if it comes in pill form, but generally people get it in just a powder form and it's five grams.
Speaker 2:Now they say okay, bigger guys, you know, we're both in like the 220 range so we you know I, sometimes we will do kind of a heaping scoop or a scoop and a half, maybe even two scoops, but the the basic idea behind it is it's a you know the? It's energy that you can store in your muscles if you supplement it every day. It is not a free workout, it doesn't. It doesn't do anything to your workout that day. You just have to build up a little bit of creatine in your muscles, which becomes an energy source. It's like putting little tiny batteries in your muscles that you can tap into when you strength train, specifically with strength training.
Speaker 2:So so it doesn't have a ton of value for endurance athletes, um, even for, like power lifters, one rep max type things not not that valuable, but for somebody who's working out with like six to 12 reps and kind of doing that bodybuilding type workout, it seems to have the most benefit. What's also cool is they've found similar to like people who don't eat meat and so they need to supplement B12, is because you're not eating meat. The only natural source of creatine that you can get is from meat muscle meat and so if somebody is vegetarian or vegan and they supplement creatine, they can actually get some pretty significant brain benefits to having creatine in their blood and in their muscles and their brain.
Speaker 2:It can actually do even more to help somebody cognitively and for the muscle strength.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so what do you put it in, like how do you?
Speaker 2:it doesn't matter how you ingest it. I actually put it in yogurt with some with some really good snickerdoodle protein powder and I make a really great little concoction and and I eat it that way, but I can. I don't like to put it in a shake because sometimes, you know, you don't know if you got all of it. So I usually just, if I'm going to take it, I put a scoop in yogurt, or I'll just put a scoop in my mouth and drink water.
Speaker 1:So you take it daily? Yeah, is that what you recommend?
Speaker 2:I forget every once in a while, but it's not one of those things where it's like you miss a day and you got to start over.
Speaker 1:How about like peptides, too Is? Is that a part of creatine, or how does that work exactly?
Speaker 2:They're all kind of, you know, amino acid bundles in a sense that, like, we utilize in our muscles or in different cellular functions. So there, but it's not the same. Like your muscle basically holds glycogen, creatine and ATP for energy, right, and so we, based on the type of workout we're doing, the type of exercise we're doing, we're tapping into different energy sources, and so creatine is just one of those. So I think, for the workout enthusiast, somebody who wants to just get a little bit more out of your workout and let's be clear, it's not an anabolic steroid. It doesn't do anything that steroids do.
Speaker 2:All it does is it allows you to maybe have a little bit more endurance in your reps as you get closer to failure yeah so, whereas if you weren't on creatine you might kind of burn out at seven or eight reps, you get on creatine for a couple weeks and all of a sudden you just have a little bit more left in the tank because your muscles don't fatigue so quickly and therefore you're able to get an extra rep in which then, in turn, over the course of a month or two, allows you to maybe build a little bit more muscle or gain a little bit more strength, so I definitely recommend it to again, I would recommend it to somebody who's actually exercising with weight and strength training.
Speaker 2:Don't recommend it really for somebody who just wants to be healthier. I don't think it's that. I mean, you're spending 30 bucks a month on a supplement that you're not really utilizing.
Speaker 1:So what about old? As we get old, I'm worried about my joints, my knees. You know, from all the running, those things you can't get back Does does create, unless you stem cell, but some people think that's not it, you know that type of thing. So is creatine going to be one of those things that's going to fight against osteoporosis or stuff like that that's going to affect me longterm, or is that just kind of a I'm asking too much of a five gram scoop?
Speaker 2:Well, you got to think about what. So the best way, you know they, for a long time it was like, oh, supplement calcium for osteoporosis, or like, I don't want to have, I want to have good bone density. So for those people who are worried about bone density or who have low bone density, then you, you know, besides kind of supplementing calcium, the other best thing to do is strength training, specifically loading your bones with weight, so like squatting and leg press and and bench press, where you're doing we're putting a lot of weight in your body is having to hold it. That's actually naturally slowly creating more bone density. So you could there's a, you could infer that if I'm on creatine, that's going to help me, like you know, move heavier weights.
Speaker 2:That's going to like indirectly help with bone density, but nothing like that the thing about joints is like they're all going to wear out at some point. So if you're jumping every day like when you're young, great go for it, it's like NBA athletes are like they got springs in their legs.
Speaker 2:But at some point around 40, you know, if you've been doing that your whole life, your knees start to wear out, your joints start to wear out. A lot of former athletes have bad backs, bad knees, bad ankles, that type of stuff. And so you know you, just as we're getting older, if you don't have that stuff you just want to be thoughtful about, like, what can I do to not overdo specific movement patterns?
Speaker 2:so, like people that, just like I believe that back squats are the end all be, all like, yeah, I mean, back squats are great, but there is a cost, there is a risk, reward, um that you have to always factor in, and so that I think that's always going to be a discussion that you should have a with. If you have a trainer, trainer, coach, or just with you know, with yourself, or you know, like, how can I create a program that's giving me the best results, keeping me strong and helping me keep or build muscle without, without jeopardizing long-term, like pain?
Speaker 2:yeah you know and joint health and that kind of stuff there are a few supplements out there that do help with like kind of joint recovery, um, but you know again the, the. I think the best, best way to do that is create a program that's not like so heavy into. Like you know, I'm going to squat heavy or deadlift heavy or lunge heavy all the time maybe once in a while. But you're also throwing in some calisthenic work, some yoga, some other things to keep from mobility and practice other movements.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so mobility is a big piece. I know there's a former NFL punter who was two-time fittest man in the world or fittest football player in the world, by Health Magazine.
Speaker 2:A punter who was the fittest football player.
Speaker 1:Yes, you've never heard of Steve Weatherford, oh man.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I know Steveve weatherford. I didn't realize he was a punter. He's the guy dude, so he what.
Speaker 1:I watched this, this clip on instagram, and it was, uh, one of these guys. His name's pierce howe and he's an endurance athlete, but he was like I spent three weeks working out with steve and this is what I've learned, and it was basically like he stretches and warms up the majority of his workout, like his. The heaviest part of what he does is mobility making sure deep lunges, making sure he's got all of the, the everything kind of stretched and warmed up before he even goes into it, and that kind of blew my mind a little bit, cause I don't do any of it. We grew up, grew up in. When I was in high school it was like the first mile was warm up, like that's why you do it, you know.
Speaker 2:That's why you're running. I can stretch after, you know.
Speaker 1:That was always the philosophy, so mobility seems to be a big one. Like you talk about yoga and that type of thing.
Speaker 2:But let me and this is some of the newer evidence-based science around strength training and mobility right, like some people are like, well, I do too much strength training, so I don't have good mobility, and the if you look at like olympic lifters who are lifting very heavy with full mobility, like they're actually not doing a lot of stretching before at like what they're doing is they're warming up the movement at full mobility. So if you are somebody that is in your 40s or 50s and your mobility is bad, then yes, mobile mobility exercises stretching that can help you get that back. But what we should really be looking at is what are some exercises we can do at the fullest range of motion. So, if I can't back squat, butt to ground or ass to grass or like at full depth, but I can get on a hack squat with the right angle at my feet and I can drop all the way into where I need my basically my hamstrings are touching my calves and my knee.
Speaker 2:That's a proper squat, yeah, like where you're getting all the way down. Think about like an Olympiclympic lifter, like catching you know a snatch and their butts like basically on the ground, and then they just stand up from there like that.
Speaker 2:That is the strength and range of motion that you want to have. Yeah, if you don't have that, you got to work on it, but you sometimes it's good to find exercises where by doing it, you're also increasing your range of motion. Perfect example bench press. The bar stops at your chest right, so your range of motion can can only be to the point in which the bar touches your chest. And if your broad chest didn't have a big rib cage and not very long arms, that's not very deep, yeah.
Speaker 2:But if you take dumbbells and you go past your your rib cage and out slightly to stretch all the way into your armpit, you're not going to be able to do nearly the type of weight. But the range of motion you can get and the activation of your chest and muscles that you get from that is fantastic. And what they're finding is that the more you can stretch the muscle muscle at the end range while you're doing strength training, you're actually going to get about 10 percent more muscle growth. And if you don't believe me, check out renaissance periodization um, dr mike, israel, something like that, and it's not quite his last name, but it's israel, he, this is, this is his big thing, and it's all science fact. He's a doctor of sports, uh, or science, or fitness science, whatever.
Speaker 2:I'm not sure what the yeah the phd is, but it he's all. All this stuff is science back and it's all about building muscle strength, training around full range of motion, and so I think it's a really beneficial thing. And, you know, maybe we can't do it with like, with squats and with a bar on our back, but we can sure find a way, whether it's raising our heels up at a slight angle so that we can drop all the way down, and the knees over toe guy is it Ben? What's his name? I don't remember, but anyway, the guy knees over toes guy really was probably the first to start saying like hey, we are not even close to putting our knee flexion at that point where we're at full range of motion.
Speaker 2:Let's do these lunges, let's do these movements, and that's helping to strengthen those joints, to make us kind of bulletproof, which is kind of the buzzword, the buzzword let's be bulletproof, but what bulletproof really means is like you don't have a weak spot, you can move all the way into full range of motion and out of it without weakness, without pain, without discomfort.
Speaker 2:And you know people that are in the virginian jiu-jitsu world like that's super important, because if you're getting twisted and you're got to get in all the positions, you can't have a weak spot. Yeah, you have to be able to, to have strength at all ranges of motion. And so, anyway, taking that all the way back to strength training, I think it's a really important thought because, first of all, our ego is always in the way when we're talking about. Like I went to the gym, you know, and I put two plates, three plates, I just, you're just seeing these guys just throw the weight up and it's impressive.
Speaker 2:I mean, I don't even try to do that stuff anymore and I can't.
Speaker 1:And I still want to be.
Speaker 2:I'm short, stubby arms, it's a lot easier. I still want to be able to put three plates on and bench it. I'll never do it. I've never done it in my life. I've never benched three plates um you could totally bench, no, no. I think I could do 250, but I'm not there. But anyway, long arms, I I'm going. I got 90s on on on dumbbell, I'm stretching all the way down. I I'm getting like 11 reps, three sets on nineties with nineties, you could do 300, but that's.
Speaker 2:That's like after two or three months of starting at like 65 again, I like drop the weight way back and I'm like I'm going full stretch till I can build back up, cause you know, a year ago I was doing 110s, you know, and it was just stupid. I mean, it was like at some point my shoulders are going to tear off you know, it's like you know.
Speaker 2:But it was like I was chasing the weight Right and now it's like, oh, okay, I pull it way back, I get that stretch and I'm enjoying the strength training. I'm enjoying just that mobility and my shoulder blades and all that kind of stuff. So anyway, without going down too much of a rabbit hole, I think that is a way that you can incorporate mobility within the context of strength training.
Speaker 1:Well, I like that. I think, uh, as I get older, I'm going to turn 40 in December.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And so I'm thinking more of cause. I think I wasted my twenties in a lot of ways Like I didn't really work out that much, and now, into my late thirties, it's like this is a high priority and so I'm trying to figure out how to, as I turn 40 into my forties, how do I have the best life so that I'm not limited by you know, I don't. I mean, my kids are going to be teenagers and I want to be able to still kick the soccer ball around and be still have a beat my son in arm wrestling stuff like that, obviously. So, thinking through what that has to take, despite the feeling of there's a lot of stuff changing in our bodies.
Speaker 1:Like I just started Rogaine. My hair's getting so thin it actually the last haircut I had, it was like genuinely I thought where did it go? Like where's my? Just all of a sudden. And so I started panicked and my wife was like Mrs Royer was like hey, why don't you do something about it? And so I got this. It's generic Rogaine, but it's the same ingredients. It's just way cheaper. So I go to HEB and I get the serum and I put it in my hair crowns and and I've been doing it for like a week and I've seen no change, and so similar to the workout side is as a 40 year old man. Now everything's different and it's very frustrating and I don't know how to feel about it.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, look, I'm there with you. I mean I was blessed with, I mean I've got a big forehead, but I've had full head of hair for a while and I'm 49, about to turn 50 next March, so you know about eight, nine months from being 50. And all of a sudden, I've been noticing that there is like I've got that little monkey butt top is thinning out, and so it's been one of those like ooh, like that's, because that's obviously a sign of aging for men, and all that kind of stuff and I've kind of not had to deal with it until now.
Speaker 2:And so I'm right there with you, Like every time I go into the dermatologist. You know, of course he's checking on me and I've had some basal cell skin carcinomas. So he's very thorough with like yeah everywhere in my body and and he's like, hey, we could do something about that top, that top I'm like and I'm like what would you do?
Speaker 1:what would?
Speaker 2:that well. So so there's like I mean, he mentioned two different like there's a pill you take daily and then there's a like a topical you put on and I've always I said I'm interested, and then I've never done it I have keep. Like you know, I'm still in that place where I'm like avoiding.
Speaker 1:Do you bald, gracefully, or do you? Say hey, I'm willing. It's just. I think it's similar to a lot of the stuff that we do to make ourselves look good right. The glamour muscles, the you know, what we put on, what we wear, all those different things. I mean, if I'm you know I'm, if I'm you know I'm, in a place where I'm taking Ozempic just so I can lose weight, so that I look better, what's the difference between that and going?
Speaker 1:yeah, I want some serum on my head, so hopefully I hold my hair for a little bit longer.
Speaker 2:but yeah, slow the process down.
Speaker 1:It's like I'm okay with that, but also like is it really going to do anything? Should I just be like you know what I am, who I am, and it's okay, but at the same time I'm like I hate it so much.
Speaker 2:And here's the other thing. We're married. We've got wives who are also aging. My wife and I are the same age. She's going through perimenopause. I'm going through just midlife guy stuff it and you know it's different, but it's. You know there's so many of the same things going through and so if I'm struggling with it or rejecting like I got to do all this stuff like, and if I'm, you know that's where that kind of A midlife crisis happens. But also, what are you telling your spouse?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like that they should be worried about the way they look because you're not willing to judge. Like you're judging yourself so harshly because of your natural aging process and this is the whole thing that I think we all go through between 40 and 50 is like what am I okay with? You know, I'll see people who are so clearly you know, either tanning and going to tanning beds or getting spray tans, and I'm still going like God. They look great, it's a great tan.
Speaker 1:I know it's fake.
Speaker 2:I can tell they're shaving. They've shaved their body, they're tanning, that you know, but it's still aesthetically looks good and there's parts of me it's like.
Speaker 2:Hmm like you know. And then I'm like Bart, stop, you've had skin cancer, stop thinking about it, like you know. But I still like going to the pool and all that and like laying out, and sure I put sunscreen on, but I'm still like trying to get a little bit of a tan, because I know that having a tan looks better and that's an aesthetic thing. So it is this interesting man, it is a, and it kind of well, it's nice to know you feel that, oh man I'm like man, I can't wait to be 50 like bart, or 49 so I can look like him.
Speaker 1:I know that's not how it works, but that's what I make in my mind. I'm like man, I can't wait to look like a bodybuilder like bart when I'm 49. But I think the the struggle. So I'm a ginger, you know. So I'm pale as can be.
Speaker 2:You have red hair, yeah, and freckles, yeah.
Speaker 1:I have red hair, um, and our SPF is like 70, yeah, so I put it on and I look like a ghost, because it's still, you can't rub in SPF 70.
Speaker 1:I think there might be an SPF 100 so it's called paint yeah, that's exactly what it is, and the funniest thing is having people like that. We go places with that and you need sunscreen. Like, oh, can we have some? Sure, and they try to. They put too much on cause it's like, and then it's just their whole face is white and pale and their arms are all white and pale cause they put too much on and you can't get that off.
Speaker 2:You know it's. I'm with you, man, I'm with you.
Speaker 1:Uh, I, I think, uh, a big part of that comes to like how to? I'm trying to, I guess I'm trying to really think of how do I set a good example for my kids too. Uh, how do you make them feel, hey, I'm good with who I am, but also like, hey, you need to exercise, or hey, you need to do these things, things, or, you know, I think, with our daughter especially, I think there's a lot of things going on. Obviously she's getting older, going through a lot of changes, just kind of like us, you know. But the reality is she's struggling with telling the truth. There are a lot of lies, and that's hard for me. And then, you know, just being uh, uh, not athletic, but being active. You know, right now there's so many opportunities to not do anything more than we ever had grown up, where it's like just go out and play or just like, so, let's go play tennis, let's, but it includes it makes me have to do that too, so it's not like I can just be like go out and play, it's like I have to be the one to go, let's go play. And so that's been tough.
Speaker 1:And I think one thing I've realized is, with my kids especially is, you know, especially when it comes to like consequences or wanting my kids to set a good example for them, especially in times of change. As they get older, they're continually like changing. We have to change the way that we parent. It seems like you know my daughter especially. We've always had trouble with her not trouble she was just a hard kid to deal with, very active, like, just always into something you couldn't let. She's not like a chill kid where you could just let her hang out, play by herself. She wants you to be involved, and so we were always like every 16 months it seemed like we were trying to find new ways that we're going to have to figure out how to parent. I remember one time sitting in a car Stacy, crying, going how do we do this? You know, it's like our daughter's 18 months or something. It's like we can't do this and I said, you know, I sit there, we take a deep breath and I say we are going to win. We are the adults. We can do this, you know.
Speaker 1:And what I found was the main issue especially when I look at other parents and not in a judgmental way, but just seeing how their style of parenting is. It has a lot to do with consistency. Just like in the workout space is, if you are not consistent with your kids, whether it's saying, hey, let's go do something, let's be active, including them in stuff that's mundane A lot of the times. My wife and I we work out all the time and so, but I like to work out by myself. I don't like to be like all right kids here do five pushups and I'm gonna try to run my eight miles on the treadmill. You know like that's not fun for me, and so it's almost like figuring out how to be less selfish and more consistent. And the bigger thing that I think I've struggled with is also building that example. Early on I didn't. I was very inactive, I was very overweight, and so now it's like what do I want my kids to be doing? What do I want my kids to be seeing in me and hoping that those things are consistent enough to get them there.
Speaker 1:And same thing with punishments. You know we I I don't love corporate punishment in the sense of like spank. You know, spanking is like a bad word, now you can't, so we've never done that. But how do you cause? That's how we were raised. You get spanked, you do something wrong, right, but how do you do it? Without doing the physical stuff, but teaching them and giving them consequences for their actions, and it just doesn't end. And the only way to do it well is to do it consistently is what I've found and to follow through.
Speaker 1:I remember one time this is actually kind of funny and you never want to tell a story before and say this is kind of funny. But what? Never want to tell a story before and say this is kind of funny. But what happened was my daughter would move her bed. So this is probably four or five years old. She had little, you know, an Ikea bed, but she had, like this cool thing and she would push it against the wall every night.
Speaker 1:And Stacy said no, you can't do that. If you want to, this is where their bed's going to be. If you try to move it on your own, you're going to break the legs off, which realistically would happen. And you know, she said you know she keeps doing it, keeps doing this every same time. Don't do this, don't do this. Finally, she says listen, if you can't do this, we are taking your bed away. If you, if you move your bed again. We're going to take your bed out of here now. I didn't know any of this was going on. I knew that she was having trouble with whatever Cause she. I'd hear her get all upset after she talks to her. It's like I can't believe she keeps doing that anyway, she uh. So one day I come home from work, I walk up she's getting ready for bed and, uh, you can see Fiona's like this girl.
Speaker 2:I can't like why doesn't she listen?
Speaker 1:Uh, she had moved the bed and it's like, and I and Stacey's like Stacey's, like uh, and I told her that we're going to have to follow through with the consequences and I was like, what are the consequences? And she goes, uh, we're going to take her bed out. And I look at her with these wide eyes what? And this isn't a bed you could just like, hey, let's carry it out together. I had to take the whole thing apart.
Speaker 2:Oh, wow.
Speaker 1:So I had to take every inch of this thing off headboard right before bed, put her mattress on the floor and she's just, of course, crying. What I found out later is she thought she'd get lost forever, Right.
Speaker 1:You know, and it was like it was literally a day, you know, like hey, if you can't do this right, and the next morning I wake up and like crap, now I gotta put the stupid bed back together with the bed back in, and it was one of those things that it never happened again. Yeah, but if you don't, if you don't follow through with that really unrealistic consequence.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I told I, as, as I was taking apart Stacy, was in the hallway and I was like, hey, let's like think about our consequences a little like, let's get together on this one. I mean, I'm going to back you up no matter what. But this is a, this is a lot of work. And so, ultimately, what we found is, even in now, to our older age, is, as stupid as it seems, some of the consequences that we give her, or even the issue of what she did to do something wrong. Yeah, seems small, it's like if you just look at it from that perspective, it's not a big deal. But the big deal is the action, the purposeful action of either whether it's deceiving, telling lies which is very, very important to teach them now or just trying to get away with something they know they're not supposed to do. It's a hard issue, right, trying to get away with something they know they're not supposed to do, it's a hard issue. And and it's you know, as you talk to him and figure it out and say, hey, this is, these are things, but it just they continue to happen.
Speaker 1:And I was like, listen, we got to fall through these consequences, otherwise the consistency she's not going to think anything's going to happen to her.
Speaker 1:Oh, she might get a you know, a little harsh talking to here and there, but like nothing's going to happen, and so that's the one thing. I mean. It kind of goes through your whole life right, disciplined equals freedom, the Jocko move, but the consistency in your life is going to be what defines you in the future, and that's kind of what I've realized in parenting and in fitness and in all the things that come, especially even the guy stuff. You know, like I'm going to have to every day for the rest of my life or until I decide my hair is gone, I'm going to have to put that stupid serum in the morning and in the evening in my hair so I don't lose my hair. It's the same kind of ideas, like consistency in what we do is ultimately going to give us the best action, and you even said it to. The creatine side is there's two things you have to do you have to take it every day and you consistently, consistently, and you have to work out right, like if you just take creatine with nothing.
Speaker 1:it does nothing, and so understanding the consistency that comes with that is is huge, and so I appreciate you talking about getting older and what that looks like to you, because you know, sometimes I feel like you have it all together and I'm the one like trying to catch up like Bart, take me with you, I want to be, I want to be like you.
Speaker 2:so that's a cool, that's cool to hear and I appreciate you and I always wanted you know five years ago, you know, when I was 243 pounds or whatever and I and you know I was probably having a lot of the same feelings that you had before you started getting into better shape, you know and just all of a sudden, these little life choices like having a beer after work or going out to you know, swinging by Jack in the Box For whatever reason, jack in the Box was like my favorite fast food joint as a kid.
Speaker 2:Like ultimate cheeseburger jumbo fries and a shake, and so I mean that's got to be 3 000 calories but. I would put that down as a kid and I was a chubby kid, but I but I, um, but I just so. I mean we always go through these phases of like you know, I mean I maybe some people are just like their entire life, are completely disciplined, but for the most part, you know, people have this kind of ebbs and flows.
Speaker 2:Ebbs and flows of like strong discipline and and habits, and then we get a little lax and I think when kids show up, and especially when they're younger, and it's like you're getting so much joy from just being around them and being at home and all that kind of stuff, it can, just it can kind of end up you're like, hey, purpose life, being home, being with my kid, like showing up for him.
Speaker 2:You know, working hard to make money, like those feel much better than when you're single or whatever but you know you can fall into bad habits and so I just I don't I don't ever judge people with it that that are in that space and are trying to get out of it. It really comes down to finding the why behind what you know. Doing it like and if, if it's all because you're super negative about yourself, like I think I'm bad or I think I'm ugly or I'm balding, and that's horrible like you know, it is horrible.
Speaker 2:I mean I, I'm like and I'll tell you, being six, four, like almost nobody can I know I wish I was, but I know it's there, dude, it's horrible but anyway, like it's, it's just one of those things where you know, somewhere in that process of getting stronger, getting healthier, getting um, you know what you want, self-love has to also show up in there, because if it's not there, you're just gonna it's, it's gonna fall apart at some point yeah, that's good but I love what you're saying about I mean kid, I mean just having a son.
Speaker 2:Like you know, we're dealing with the same type of stuff and it's all. And my wife is much better than me at like. Just reminding you know, reminding me we've got to be consistent. We can't say you lost TV and then it's easier.
Speaker 1:It's easier when they're watching.
Speaker 2:It's easier to get them iPads and be like.
Speaker 1:I could take this away, but it's not Right.
Speaker 2:But yeah, you're right. They learn when they see that there is a rule and if they broke it they lose something or some consequence happens. And at the other side of the coin, we got some help on this idea of just surprise them with rewards too. Oh, that's like hey dude if you turn the tv off right now, you're gonna get a reward. And he's like what?
Speaker 2:I'm like, yeah, I can't tell you what it is, but it's out and he's like turned it off and I like brought him a little like little car, like a dollar from yeah, but he's like oh, dude, that's awesome. So it's like and the point that this lady made was like you want them to understand that, like by doing the right thing, good things happen, as opposed to just like by by doing the right things, bad things don't happen.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Like good things happen, is very motivating yeah, rather than like if I don't do this, I'm going to I'm going to receive this negative thing.
Speaker 2:Right, that's, that's a really good point. Right, that's a really good point.
Speaker 1:And I don't think you can do it all the time, because then you're just like basically paying, paying them to turn off the TV.
Speaker 2:I had a client this morning. Literally I said what are you doing to keep your kids doing stuff during the holiday or during the summer? And he's like I'm paying them.
Speaker 1:So he's like if they do two hours of basketball or whatever the sport they want, I'm paying them to do it, but they have to write out a program and they have to do it like at the house so that I know it's done.
Speaker 2:But if they do it, yeah, Like it's like if they do two hours of that sport, then he like basically pays them a salary.
Speaker 1:I was like good, that's going all in on like the like you know rewards I was, we. We used to do these rewards where, hey, if you earn enough points from doing these things, you get like five bucks at the end of the week. First week it went great. The second week it was like oh. I got to get cash now, Kid when are you getting Venmo?
Speaker 2:That's cool. This has been a great conversation, thanks so much, bart, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1:Thanks for listening everybody. I hope you enjoy dad, bods and dumbbells. We'll see you next Thursday. Thanks for listening.