Use Your Passions to DRIVE YOU - EP 8

Use Your Passions to DRIVE YOU - EP 8
In this episode of, Let Us Be Honest, we dive deep into the question, "What sets your heart on fire?" Join us as we explore the passions that drive us, from the peace of fishing in nature to the adrenaline rush of a fish on the line. We discuss how reconnecting with the natural world can bring a sense of fulfillment and joy that transcends the typical nine-to-five grind. Whether it's the quiet of the wilderness, the thrill of travel, or the emotional response to music, we believe everyone has something that makes their heart race. Tune in as we challenge you to discover what truly ignites your spirit and why it's worth chasing with all you've got.

Transcript

 Because all they want to do is just catch, catch, catch, catch, catch, and then they don't get to experience the actual point of fishing. Yeah. You know what I mean? 

Well, like they're kind of looking just for like that instant gratification. Exactly. That so many, so many of us have gotten used to these days.

I 

guess the aspect of being outdoors, fishing, hiking, camping, all of it. Yeah. You know what I mean? I guess it's something that really sets my heart on fire. You know what I mean? Because of obviously everything that we've talked about before and what you just said. 

I was reading a study the other day.

Question for you. What's up? When you listen to music, do you ever have moments where you get full body chills from it?  Okay. Three, two  Hey guys. What's up? How's it going? Welcome back to Howdy. Let us be honest. Yeah. The podcast Where we hopefully motivationally talk about, you know, things in life and stuff, and Yeah, things in life and 

stuff, and 

And bring 

more joy and happiness into the world.

Yeah, you know, if you've tuned in, you know what we're about, and what we're trying to do, and if you haven't, well, get to it. Yeah, I'm just kidding, you know. Yeah, no, for real. We've talked about a lot of things. Oh, for real. 

Get to it. Yeah, we were kind of thinking and talking about it the other day, and it's like, what, what drives us? 

I guess in a way, what we're really asking ourselves is, a question you asked me a couple months ago, like, What sets your heart on fire? Mmm. Cause clearly, I remember that. Yeah, I remember that too, and I've been thinking about it. Because it's like, yeah, clearly, if you don't want to follow a typical career path or something like that, there has to be something driving you.

There's gotta be. Yeah. There's gotta be. Yeah. That's out of, yeah, that's out of the normal corporate structure, I guess you could call it. Yeah. So today that's what we're going to talk about. What 

sets your heart on fire? Yeah. Have you guys ever really thought about that? Yeah. You know what I mean? Have you ever really sat down and took a moment to think about what you're truly passionate about?

What? Excites you like nothing else. Yeah, you know what I mean? What really gets that adrenaline flowing  every time you think about it just spot on. Oh, yeah, you're like it's happening Exactly. Yeah, you know what I mean? What sets your heart on fire Cale?  What sets my heart on fire? Yep. I mentioned it before I think a few times probably One of my passions slash hobbies that gets me going like nothing else You know, you know where I'm going here.

I think I do. Fishing. Fishing. Fishing is something that sets my heart on fire. Yeah. I love it. You know, some people might think there and be like, what do you mean? There's nothing to it. You just sit there and wait for the fish. You know what I mean? Let's guilty. Let's think bigger 

picture 

here. Okay. 

As someone.

Who has never been fishing from your viewpoint. Like, what about that sets your heart on fire? Like, help me understand what about it just like gets you amped 

up. Right. Right. Well, I think in order to truly understand this, you need to have a sense of, I guess, being able to, for lack of a better term, connect with nature.

Okay. You know what I mean? I think that has a really big part in it. Um, but also. Think about where you are when you fish, you know what I mean? You're by the water, or you're on a lake, or on a river, or a pond, you know, whether you're on shore or in a boat. More often than not, it's pretty damn quiet. That's fair.

You know what I mean? You're just sitting on the lake, quiet as can be, and if you enjoy the quiet, that's heaven. So the peace and tranquility, I guess, of fishing, you know, hearing the water hit the shore, Listening to the loons go off, you know, seeing the odd deer, moose, just doing their thing, living their life, not having to worry about bills and this and that and whatever, and you just sit there in awe.

You know what I mean? Yeah, I get that. But, uh, yeah, the peace and tranquility, and I mean, I guess you can't really understand what it really feels like to have a fish on the line, unless you have a fish on the line. Not even that I guess unless you really I guess share the passion and the excitement for it I guess you know what I mean, because when you say there's a saying in the fishing community It's called the tug is the drug.

Oh, so like the tug on the line When that happens the people that get excited about it their adrenaline just starts get going, you know You know what's on the end of my line? How big is this bitch? And it's just like  Shit  Yeah, so that that excitement that adrenaline of actually having a fish Fish on the end of your line, not knowing what kind of fish it is, not knowing how it is, how big it is, um, just the total surprise effect of that.

Um, again, the adrenaline flowing of having an actual fish on the line, which I don't expect a lot of you to understand. So it's okay. But, um,  and the peace and tranquility that I experience being able to just be alone and think through. My next steps in life, you know what I mean? And really focus on what I'm going to do to continue to grow and just become a better person.

And I feel like fishing really allows me the time to do  

that. Actually makes a lot of sense. And I don't think I've ever  thought I'm glad. Yeah, I don't know if I've ever thought about it like that. Like, there's a lot that, there's actually a lot that goes into that. Because I mean, we've talked about it before.

We live in a world where it's cell phones and like you have that immediate like gratification in your face. And like so many people are just focused on, you know, their social media and like how many likes they get. We've, we've almost forgotten a great deal of patience and I think, I don't know if we've ever really dove into having patience and like what the reward benefit of that can be. 

So actually, I think I kind of get that. More now from a psychological standpoint, to be honest, because you have to go out. There's a sense of patience. You're in complete silence with just nature around you. So it kind of makes it makes you reconnect with where you are. It makes you think of where you are.

It gives you an appreciation. And then, yeah, there's a massive amount of patience from what I would assume waiting for a fish to bite the line. Most of the time, yes. Sometimes you get really lucky and it's just like fish every cast. But I mean, even, even the excitement that you're talking about, like leading up to like, not knowing what's on the end of your line, like what's happening, like what you're going to pull in.

Yeah. Um, That actually all plays in quite a bit to like the reward centers in your brain. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. You know what? I've never even thought of it that way. 

I can't even explain that feeling, man, because you just feel 

so good. I think I just see fishing in a whole new light now. Good. I'm glad, man.

Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. There's a lot psychologically that 

goes into that. That's honestly really healthy. And I mean, don't get me wrong. Some guys, don't fish unless they know there's fish there. Like they, they call themselves fishermen or whatever, but unless they know there's fish, they, they don't fish.

They won't try. They won't experiment because all they want to do is just catch, catch, catch, catch, catch. And then they don't get to experience the actual point of fishing. You know what I 

mean? Well, like they're kind of looking just for like that instant gratification. Exactly. So many of us have gotten used to these days.

Like. Oh, yeah, you post a video and you get three likes, like right away. You're like, yeah, people like this. Whereas something like fishing,  who would imagine that what sets your heart on fire? We'd be talking about the analogy between fishing and instant gratification, but here we are, um,  yeah, people can get so used to that.

I can see how people will only go if there's a guarantee, which again, I think. Reinforces like why it's so important to spend time in your natural world. 

Yeah. So I mean, I guess really what we're trying to say with that after all that big tangent on fishing and , I mean, it wasn't really tangent 'cause we've related the two, but, um,  yeah.

So what are your passions? What are your hobbies? Mm-Hmm. . You know what I mean? Have a sit down. Think about it.  Um, what makes you feel  like nothing else does? Yeah. You know? And yeah,  when you find that.  And it might take some time, if you don't already know. But when you find that, chase it. Chase it. You'll feel it, right here.

And, in here, it'll be like this unrelenting  It'll give you little butterflies. Yeah, exactly. And you'll be 

like, oh, what's that? 

Unrelenting butterflies of excitement. You know what I mean? So just chase that. Chase, do whatever you can to chase that. Because, 

I mean, that's what life's about. It's so true, and I had someone send me a video the other day on Instagram. 

And it was this video and it's just this guy. He's like, in 150 years, everyone, you know, will be dead.  You'll be dead.  Everything you own will be owned by someone else. Everything you have will be had by someone else. 

Yeah.  I was actually thinking about death today. I'm not,  I'm not going to lie, but yeah, I was, for some reason I was driving home from work and it popped in my head.

And I was like, holy shit, one day, that's it. Yeah. And there's a possibility of it being an eternity of nothingness. Yeah. But you know what? That's even more reason for you to fight for what sets your heart on fire. Exactly. You know what I mean? Yep. You never, you don't know the date, so yeah, you don't know when, you don't know how old, you don't know how, you don't know where.

One day, everything stops. That's all you know you have no idea 

what's 

going 

to happen 

next. 

Well, even going back to what I was saying, like, you and your friends in 150 years, they're gonna be gone. Yep. Everything you own and have will be owned and had by someone else. Someone else, yep.  Or underground. Yeah.

So like, why, why worry? We worry so much about like, acquiring and obtaining things, which we've talked about on this podcast. Like that, that's neither of our goals. No. Obviously, we want the typical things, like a nice place to live, a house, you know, the usual. But I think that comes with certain necessities.

Like wanting a house,  I think, you know, it's shelter. It's, it's what everybody wants. You need, you need a place to live. Yeah, exactly. I think when you think about what sets your heart on fire, I don't think like digital things or video games should be part of that answer. Like, I think for your heart to be set on fire, you need to find something within the natural world to like get that going for you.

I think there's a difference between  things that. Make you happy, bring you joy. 

Yep. 

And what sets your heart on fire. Yep. You know what I mean? Oh, 100 percent because there's these, you know, things you do for yourself throughout your life that,  you know, you do to make yourself happy. Yep. But it's only temporary.

It's true. You know what I mean? And I find that when you chase what truly sets your heart on fire, it doesn't really fade. Yep. That happiness or excitement doesn't really fade. It's constantly comes back because it's, it's that important 

to you, 

I guess. 

And you don't need, I guess, the same volume of, I guess it'd be a dopamine rush the next time.

Like you can keep it pretty consistent. Like video games are a pretty good example, um, of those small things that make you happy. Like, you know, you play a game, You beat it. Um, you get past a hard part that you couldn't quite get past before. Like, yeah, you get that dopamine rush. You feel good. Right. Right.

I find thinking about my own experiences, it goes up, it goes down, like you get really happy and then you're like, okay, back in it. Yeah. But, um, even for myself when out in nature and I think spending time in nature, camping a little more homesteading, I guess, and that kind of feeling of like growing your own things and like, Cultivating your own stuff and being out in nature.

Like that's kind of what's setting my heart on fire these days. I feel like every little success, even when we go out camping and we discover a new little thing or, you know, just being out in nature, I find you get that rush of dopamine that you look for. And I think it feels like it sustains longer and it feels the same each time you go back.

Oh, a hundred percent. You don't need more. You don't need to beat more levels to feel the same thing. Like it's, it's not a repeat thing. Cause almost every single time I know when we're out in nature, um, it's a different experience and a different feeling. Yep. You still get the same things. Yeah. Just that.

Natural connection feels  fulfilling every single time,  I would say. Yeah. 

Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, I agree. Like,  being in the mountains, going to the mountains, gives me the exact same feeling. Actually, just being in the mountains, the bush,  being outdoors, in the woods, in general. In a body of water. Yeah. Gives me the same feeling fishing does, you know what I mean?

So, I mean, it all, I guess, The aspect of being outdoors, fishing, hiking, camping, all of it. You know what I mean? I guess it's something that really sets my heart on fire. You know what I mean? Because of obviously everything that we've talked about before and what you just said. And so I totally get it, 

man.

Yep. And even from you just talking about fishing, just like the psychology side that goes into it. I'm like, yeah, actually there's, there's a lot of anticipation and reward. Um, and it's a lot of, it's a lot of human skills that you have to go through. Yeah. To get those rewards. Mm hmm. And at the end of the day like it's it's the climb.

It's the clock.  It's the cloud  I think for myself just having the time to dive into music. I find I can Get into one of my best flow states where I can just tune the world out around me is when I'm playing music  

Yeah, no, I can totally relate to the music side of things. Yep. I love music Uh, I wouldn't say not necessarily playing it, but I mean like listening to it and you know Singing every now and then 

I like music man.

I was reading a study the other day question for you What's up when you listen to music? Do you ever have moments? Where you get full body chills from it, like goosebumps. Oh yeah. Yeah? Yeah. Did you know I feel that shit hard. Did you know that's rare? What? Not everybody feels that. Get out. Yeah. Are you serious? 

I think this study said only about 33 percent of the population and don't quote me. I could be completely wrong. It could be 50, but not everybody has that emotional response with music. Wow. Yeah, and they think it's  elevated  amount of neuropaths. And synapses that happen between your emotion side and like your visual and auditory sides.

Yeah, we have more connections. So you tend to be a little more emotional, but things around you within your environment also spark those emotions. And music apparently is a big indicator of that. Whoa. I know. Yeah. Okay. I know. I was sent that study the other day and I was like, wow. And then yeah, talking to other people about it.

And there  I have now asked people that are like, no, I've never had a song. Make me feel that way. I'm like, what? Hmm. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. So maybe this is why we talk about reconnecting and connecting with nature so much. 

Yeah. Yeah. No, that really like hit me because like I'm somewhat of an emotional guy, you know, I wear my heart on my sleeve.

Me too. You know what I mean? As soon as you said the word emotional, I was like, Oh,  

Right here. 

That music gets me.  

Yeah. But yeah, not, not everybody feels that way. So maybe the reason that certain things set our hearts on fire the way they do, whether it's being out in nature or listening to music, um, or even some of the passions for hobbies we have, like maybe it's because we're just emotionally heightened.

Right. 

I think another thing that, uh, sets my heart on fire really is just getting out of this career life. Right. Yeah, I mean starting to work for myself just the idea  of not having to work for someone else not having to live that Nine to five day to day. It really gets me going like fishing Yeah, and and getting your 

your hours in your time back exactly 

knowing that you can truly take control of your 

own life Yep, and do what you want to do and I'm really just thinking about like all the things we've talked about So far and maybe  maybe on this episode we have discovered why we have a drive for that because we've met people Perfectly happy doing what they're doing.

Uh huh. They love their careers. They went to school for them. They're proud of them happy for you great Awesome, keep going love it live the dream Yeah, you keep living your dream and and I don't understand that  because that is not How I feel that 

I feel like that's not how we're wired. Yeah. So we just can't comprehend it.

Exactly. And that happens. It does. You know what I mean? It's just like the people that can't comprehend where we're coming from. Exactly. It's the 

same situation, but now I'm thinking about just what you said about like how fishing makes you feel. Um, and even going through some of the psychology for the reward centers in your brain for that.

Right. And then, what we just kind of discussed about just being a little more emotionally in tune with certain things. Maybe that's, maybe this is why. Maybe, man. Maybe there's just a group of people out there, like ourselves, maybe like the people listening to this podcast, that just have a little more emotional in tunement.

To the natural world around us. And maybe that's why this whole career path, career, typical career life just doesn't fit well with some of us and it doesn't sit well with some of us. 

Yeah. Oh, a hundred percent, man. I've, I've met a few piece, a few people personally I've been able to connect with solely based on how we feel when we're in nature, how we're able to absorb that energy for lack of better term and really use it to.

Better ourselves. You know what I mean? Yeah. And yeah, it's nice because those people are hard to find. Like you were saying earlier, a lot, a lot of people, you know, they just don't have the respect or the want, I guess, to truly get back to nature in a way that reconnects them to the spirit of being a human, you know what I mean?

Yep. 

Um, yeah. I totally get where that's coming from. And I mean, we.  We wrote down to discuss this episode, like, how do you find what sets your heart on fire, and like, what does it feel like, um,  And I think honestly just talking through this, um,  with the emotional side of things and just that, I think, I honestly think how do you find it is whether or not, like, how you feel about your natural environment. 

Because I, I mean, I've met people, city life, they love it. They love to be here. They don't go out of the city much when they're out in nature, the woods, they're like, It's okay, but like, I don't know. It's too much. Whereas I go out into nature. Um, we actually just went to Mount Robson a couple weeks ago  and just to stand there with this massive mountain in the background.

It's just like the feeling is just unfathomable. Literally and you just I get it, man. I just feel completely different. And I think and I I mean, I even feel that when we go on camping trips or like get out of the city Um, it just like you said a little bit earlier like Watching animals and the deer and whatnot just being in awe of the natural world around you Yeah, what sets your heart on fire?

I think is very an emotional based thing. Mm hmm, which I think it is for us Yeah, so we might not fully be able to describe like how you find it Mm hmm, but I think we can kind of hinge on like what it feels like Yeah, and this is what I love about being out in nature and especially the mountains is like it's almost humbling Yeah, cuz you're reminded of how small we are.

Yeah, 

people have done some amazing things and we continue to do incredible things on this planet. Nothing makes you feel smaller than being in the middle of this massive rock. That's just like so much bigger than you. And you're like, what? 

Yeah. And I mean, if you, if you don't know what sets your heart on fire, you know, you, you might have to open your mind a little bit.

True. To new opportunities. Yep. And new experiences, you know, to truly find what makes you feel on fire. Yep. You know what I mean? In a good way. 

Totally.  I'm burning. Um, apparently that's one of the most painful ways to go. Um, I can see that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what? Even talking about it and. And we're going to continue to talk about it.

Like cell phones, social media, they've done some detrimental damage to this planet.  So maybe finding the feeling of what sets your heart on fire is just as simple as going out somewhere and leaving your phone at home for a little while.  Cause maybe you'll stumble upon something. Exactly. Yeah. Maybe you have friends who like to go canoeing or paddle boarding or.

Um, yeah, like you said, maybe just opening your mind to new experiences, because how many people do you think live day in, day out, day in, day out, like, repeating their life day in, day out, day in, day out, and they never, like, they never take time for themselves. I even think traveling the world could be like, what sets your heart on fire.

Oh, a hundred percent, 

man. A hundred percent. Yeah. No, I want to see the world. You already know that. Yeah. I want to travel the world, you know. Uh, when I think about actually leaving this country, I get the feeling that I get when I go fishing, you know what I mean? I want to call it, I guess, a sense of wanderlust.

Right. You know, just to see everything and experience  different cultures and different foods and just the way they do things, you know, on the other side of the world. Mm hmm. Chasing the feeling that you get from traveling the world, you're going to experience new things. A lot of new things. You're going to get new opportunities.

You're going to Yep. You're going to find something. I guarantee you that makes you feel like nothing else. 

And you know what, honestly, to reinforce the point of maybe you just need to let your cell phone go, um, and experience some new things or try different avenues to experience things. Yeah. Um, I think.

Normal career life is kind of maybe holding some people back just like cell phone absolutely because I can be honest The first time it ever came up in this podcast when you're like, yeah, I want to travel the world and see it My first thought was yeah, like that's nice But you can pretty much find the same landscape here in Canada that you can anywhere else in the world because we got a pretty diverse We have yeah eco system in this country and I always thought traveling the world was like, you know, it's fine but That's because I've always looked at it through the lens of, if I travel the world, currently, working in the career I am, I get two, maybe three weeks of vacation a year, which means I'd literally be saving up all year, spend this whole two weeks or three weeks of vacation in one go, to go to a place, spend a whole bunch of money to be there, try and cram in as much as you can, to just come back, 

and 

that's how I've always looked at traveling the world, but if that was removed, I'd be like, I actually think I'd look at traveling the world very different  and I've really been thinking on that and I'm like I think it's because I'm stuck in one frame of thinking.

Mm hmm when I want to be doing something else, right? 

Yeah Yeah, no, I'm already in non career mindset, man  I'm just like I want to travel fuck it. I'm gonna tell him I'm leaving we can't let our careers control our lives You know what? I mean? 

I think that's where a little bit of difference is in us Mmm because a lot of these episodes So far where we've talked about reconnecting with the nature and all that good stuff.

We're very much on the same page. Yeah But we've had very different career paths,  mostly because I went into, I think it's cause I went into management at a pretty young age, that it's always been like, you get this much time a year, you have to do this. You have to be responsible for these things and not saying you're not responsible, but.

Not being or putting yourself in a leadership position. You do have more flex like I even see it for the people Oh 

a hundred percent. Yeah, you know what I mean? There's obviously a few a few more obstacles that you have to overcome currently, 

you know in order to be able to do that So 

I I get that part.

Yeah, I think that's one of the things where There's someone like me. I love being out. I love being in nature, but I could not fathom taking all my vacation and crunching it down into one two week spot where I just blow it all to see a part of the world. So to me, traveling made no sense. Whereas if you don't have those restrictions much easier.

Yeah. 

Yeah. 

So I actually think I've I've been trying to look at it. That a little different like if I didn't have the normal barriers that I've become accustomed to and this is the important thing about Like really figuring out what sets your heart on fire Even if it's something as simple as being out in nature, it can help you reframe your mindset Mm hmm, which I think I am now I thought I had like a reframed mindset But I'm actually realizing that there's still a little more I need to like Reframe yeah to fully fit within the vision of what I want for my future Same.

I get it, man. I think what sets my heart on fire has changed a little bit recently. I would love to see the world. 

If 

I didn't have the restriction of a normal, like, Ah, I gotta cram it into three weeks. That was always my biggest dread. It's so hard to go to other countries and experience other things in a condensed timeline.

Because you're just always doing something to experience as much as you can. And when you cram that much, you tend to forget a lot of it, where I think it'd be cool to like take time and go to a place and spend a few weeks where you don't feel rushed. And if you're there for two weeks, like, I think New Zealand would be really cool to visit.

I've heard amazing things about New Zealand, Japan. Oh, yes. And like, if you plan a two week trip. Norway, Iceland. Yeah. Sweden. Keep on going. Yeah. Iceland. Heard so many good things about Iceland. And I think it'd be amazing that if you go there for two weeks and you're like, Oh, yeah. Yeah. I think there's some more I want to experience.

You can extend it like another week or two, without needing to have to get back to something.  

Yeah. Yeah.  Like we were saying earlier,  when you die, that's it. None of it matters. N n n none of it. None of it matters, man. None of it. Not the money you made, not the hours you spent working, not the people you worked for, not the things you had.

Yadda, yadda, yadda. Exactly. Et cetera. You know what I mean? And I mean, don't get me wrong, these memories of living the good life aren't gonna last either. No, they'll be gone as soon as you die. But, I think the feelings that you get are worth it.  

Yeah, when it comes to what sets your heart on fire, like,  please don't let it be your in and out everyday job.

That's the same as sitting in a spaceship for a number of years waiting to get to somewhere else. Yeah.  You may as well just die. Yeah. But why, why not get out and reconnect with the world around you?  Like we've said multiple times, put the phone down. Mm hmm. Like, 

re like I can't express it enough. Just, yeah, put down the social media and the electronics and go experience life, man. 

Go experience 

life. We're on a very active living planet that I think not a lot of people  connect with.  That's what sets my heart on fire. There you go. It's driving people to reconnect with each other and the planet we live on. Perfect. 

Yeah. So, I mean, fishing, um, Really fighting for myself to work for myself and really take control of my life, 

creating great friendships, 

creating great friendships, meeting great people.

Um, yeah, those are the kinds of things that really get me going. You know what I mean? 

And it is a feeling 

in 

here and here. Exactly. You feel it all through here, man. So yeah. What, what sets your heart on fire? What gets you going? Yeah. 

What 

gets you right jacked up? 

Yeah. And if you don't know,  Well, now, you know, no, I'm just kidding.

If 

you don't know now, you know, um, and yeah, like, like you said, it's a feeling that you'll feel it. You'll have it every time. It might be slightly different, but there's always an excitement behind, you know, what you're really passionate about. Yeah, it could be art. It could be music. It could be, it could be so many things that I do not think is confined or contained within video games, cell phones or anything digital.

Yeah. So, um, I mean, even forms of art, um, pottery, whatever it may be, sculpting, like, it's all physical form and it's all physical forms, and it's all All I think a connection to the real world around us because even art, painting, sculpting, like it's, it's all how you feel as a person and the way you want to,  um, have others interpret what you've created.

So yeah, there's multiple things that could set your heart on fire. Oh, a hundred percent. We're not limited to nature here. No, that's just the thing that sets our hearts on fire and that connection. So yeah. What are some of the things that set your heart on fire? What makes you feel flush with emotion? I guess you could say.

Yeah, I guess that's just kind of the 

point of this episode. You know what I mean? It takes time. It takes time. It takes steps. Yeah. We're on that journey. You can be on that journey  and, and it will take time,  but I think. I mean, we've talked about values. Those help guide your decisions. Um, now with what sets your heart on fire and even other things we've talked about, like, you know, redefining success.

What is it to you? I feel like all these kinds of just culminate  in this big, happy pot that will kind of guide you in a direction, you know, or a vehicle, I guess you could say a happy pot, happy pot. It's more like a vehicle drive you in a direction. And that's. That's what, let us be honest. That is what we're here for.

And what we're all about. Yeah man. Is just talking about these things. Engaging these kind of conversations. Go, think about it again. Go, we release you. Yes. Goodbye. To find your true passions.  Bye. Goodbye.