Maritime Mysteries of the Flathead is a new podcast hosted by Jeremy Weber. He and his crew will adventure on some deep sea diving escapades to uncover some of the great mysteries lying on the bottom of the lakes and rivers in the Flathead Valley. In this podcast's premiere episode, Jeremy and his crew discuss their plans for the podcast and their recent underwater dive.
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Maritime Mysteries of the Flathead is a new podcast hosted by Jeremy Weber. He and his crew will adventure on some deep sea diving escapades to uncover some of the great mysteries lying on the bottom of the lakes and rivers in the Flathead Valley. In this podcast's premiere episode, Jeremy and his crew discuss their plans for the podcast and their recent underwater dive.
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0:00 - For nearly a decade, she made her way across Flathead Lake as the largest and most opulent boat to sail its waters.
0:07 - With four bedrooms, a kitchen, and a cost of more than two hundred thousand dollars in today's currency.
0:13 - Kee-O-Mee was a sight to behold in the late 1920s and into the 1930s.
0:19 - One fateful afternoon in May of 1937, a fire sent her to the bottom of Summers Bay in less than an hour, where she still sits today, 86 years later.
0:30 - After decades of searches and speculation, the resting place of the Kee-O-Mee was found beneath nearly 50 feet of water in Summers Bay by Jody Baker and Jay Barth of the Northwest Dive and Recovery Service in 2016.
0:45 - Today, the Flathead Maritime Archaeology Project is in a race to document and map the site before it has changed forever.
0:56 - As recorded in the Daily Inter Lake in March of 1928, the boat was built at the JW Swanson Boatworks east of town during that winter.
1:03 - For Kalispell business partners John Sherman and Bert Salling, the owners of Kalispell's Buick dealership, Kalispell Motor Sales, oddly enough, the boat was not purchased using profits from their car dealership.
1:15 - Sherman and Salling had profited from an unusual trade to acquire her, a stock promoter swapping an automobile for shares of stock in Kalispell Kevin Oilfields.
1:28 - The dividends were well beyond all speculation, and the partnership invested their gains to build their new pleasure boat.
1:35 - The Kee-O-Mee featured a large lounge, dining room, kitchen, four staterooms, and was the first houseboat on Flathead Lake.
1:49 - At 54 feet in length with an 18-foot beam, the Kee-O-Mee is cited as the largest boat on Flathead Lake at the time.
2:00 - It was launched into the Flathead River near the Still Bridge east of Kalispell for a crowd of more than a thousand onlookers in May of 1928.
2:08 - The top deck of the Kee-O-Mee included an 18 by 40-foot general lounging space that would go on to host countless parties on the lake over the next nine years.
2:15 - With power furnished by twin 80 horsepower Buick Master Six engines, the Inter Lake reported that the boat was not intended as a fast boat but was easily able to make 10 to 12 miles per hour, comparable to the speeds of the Klondike and other passenger craft on the lake at the time.
2:35 - What the newspaper described as a handsome and comfortable little ship would make its way into the Inter Lake's pages several times over the next decade, each time reporting some lavish party featuring a variety of guests from the Copper Kings of Anaconda to local lawyers, school teachers, and more.
2:54 - The windy afternoon of Wednesday, May 12, 1937, was warmer than usual at 63 degrees, 13 degrees above average, when Sherman and Salling decided to take the newly refurbished Kee-O-Mee out for its first cruise of the season.
3:01 - It had been an interesting week news-wise; just six days earlier, the German passenger airship Hindenburg had caught fire while attempting to dock at Lakehurst Naval Air Station in New Jersey, killing 36 people.
3:07 - Earlier on the day of May 12th, the coronation of King George VI had been held at Westminster Abbey in London.
3:27 - For Sherman and Salling, the afternoon was to include a routine shakedown cruise of their houseboat to kick off the season, but that plan would soon turn to disaster.
3:40 - According to a Daily Inter Lake article the following day, it was shortly after 5 PM when Sherman first noticed smoke coming up from beneath the floor in several places and called out to Salling, the only other person on the boat.
3:53 - When the pair opened the engine room, they found a fire so hot that they instantly knew that any hopes of saving their boat were futile. Within three minutes of opening that door, the entire boat was ablaze.
4:06 - The men made their escape with the use of a small lifeboat and could only watch as the Kee-O-Mee burned to the waterline.
4:12 - In 20 minutes, the Summers Lumber Company Tugboat Paul Bunyan rescued the two men from their lifeboat and towed the burning Kee-O-Mee away from the docks and into the bay, where she sank less than 30 minutes later.
4:24 - Luckily, the boat's 300-gallon main gas tank failed to explode before the ship sank, but three smaller emergency tanks did erupt, sending flames out more than 100 feet from the burning ship. Another stroke of luck, the blaze happened with just two men aboard. The event would have been much more disastrous a week later when Sherman's daughter Betty was scheduled to take a group of her college sorority sisters on an outing aboard the boat.
4:53 - Today, several artifacts have been recovered from the Kee-O-Mee's wreck and now reside in the Northwest Montana History Museum in Kalispell. From the ship's anchor, which is on display, to numerous recently cataloged smaller artifacts currently in storage, the history of the Kee-O-Mee is being recorded. As items from the wreck, such as the boat's propeller, have already gone missing, with multiple dives on the Kee-O-Mee already this season, the Flathead Maritime Archaeology Project is working hard to preserve the boat's history while it still can.
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5:47 - Alright, hello everyone, and welcome to another episode of "Maritime Mysteries of the Flathead," where we team up with the Flathead Maritime Archaeology Project to take a look at the mysteries lying beneath the lakes and rivers of Northwest Montana. I am once again joined by project leader Kyron Zimmerman, and as you could probably tell from our intro, this time we'll be talking about the Kee-O-Mee, the luxury houseboat that roamed Flathead Lake during the Great Depression era and sank to the bottom of Summer's Bay in a fiery disaster in May of 1937.
6:11 - How are you doing, Kai?
6:17 - I'm doing great. How about yourself?
6:23 - Doing awesome. So tell me, you've been involved with the Kee-O-Mee for quite a while now. How did that happen? Can you tell us a little bit about how you got involved in this?
6:31 - Absolutely. The first time I dove on the Kee-O-Mee was with another archaeological project back in 2016. I had come from New Zealand, doing a bunch of underwater film work there, and I was contacted by a fellow by the name of Jody Baker. They were working on a film project, trying to put together a little documentary, not really a documentary series, but an underwater salvage kind of like the beginnings of this project that we're working on today. They had done some survey work, located a couple of sites, but they needed a cameraman to really complete this project. So I was one of the first in. I was onboard for that, and one of the episodes that we had started was diving on the Kee-O-Mee, and I was the lead cameraman for that project.
8:01 - Awesome. So you guys were the first people to see this wreck after it went down. What was that like?
8:08 - That was a phenomenal experience. Up until that point, I had been doing a lot of biological or environmental documentation, filming fisheries and filming how humans have that interaction with marine ecosystems. But this was one of the first documentary projects that I had done where it was really history-focused. Diving on history, you really sense there's a sense of gravity around these sites, and that gravity doesn't let you go too easily. The day that I first dove on the Kee-O-Mee, it was later in the season, I think it was September or October. There wasn't a lot of boat traffic, the water was quite clear, and I remember getting out on the boat over the site, and Jody was like, "Alright, Kai, we want you to go down and film it first so we can get an uncluttered shot before the other divers had come down." So I hooked onto the line and just dropped down, and I had my camera ready. I'm looking at my depth gauge, 10 feet, 20 feet, 30 feet, 40 feet, and then right around 52-56 feet, you just see the shadow kind of emerge out of the darkness, and we were right at the bow or right at the front of the Kee-O-Mee. Seeing how the boat was tipped upside down, the anchor was there, the front of the bow was there, and it just kind of opened up.
9:19 - In front of me, and it was just, it was one of those moments that you're just never gonna forget, you know? It really solidified my passion, my interest. It just sparked this wonder inside of me that this piece of history is right here, and I'm one of the first people to see it since it sank in 1937. And that just really cemented my passion for underwater film, at least in this historical context. So I swam nice and slow around that, around the boat, just filming and taking pictures. And every stroke I made with my fins, it's just like more of it opened out. You got to see the starboard side where the fire had burned away the decking. I'm panning all the way down to where the propeller was and the rudder and the railing and some of the debris field on the stern of the boat. Making a full circuit around it was just... It just captured me as much as I was capturing that wreck.
10:24 - So, at that point, I mean, obviously, the boat had burned, you know, so the amount of structure that remained was very well-preserved. Flathead Lake does a good job not deteriorating wrecks very well. Any metal structures, obviously, there's going to be rust. Rust will grow, kind of form, and then, you know, currents or coming in contact with the wreck or altering it too much, that rust can deteriorate and then exposing the layer of metal underneath for new rust development. So that's a little bit of a factor that we gotta be mindful of when we're on the wreck, not to alter it, not to come in contact with it as much as possible. Now, what really is interesting is that it's upside down, right? Right, so you can see the bottom of the hull where it hadn't been burned. That's in miraculous condition. Penetrating into the wreck, wondering what's underneath there, we haven't really been able to access that very effectively. Earlier this season, I did put my ROV in there. However, that ROV is quite large, so we can't penetrate into the wreck very far at all with that particular one. My smaller yellow ROV is much better designed for filming work. You can get much better angles of imaging, and it's much smaller, so we can penetrate deeper into the wreck without altering it or disturbing it so much. With the blue ROV, we were able to get in there and take our first look inside the wreck, to really get an idea of what it's like, what condition is it in, what can still be left or what can still be seen associated with that site. But right now, it is in miraculous condition, and it's pretty amazing to be able to document it in this state.
12:10 - Well, the Kee-O-Mee, as we've seen earlier, it was a pleasure yacht, you know, it was a houseboat, so it had a lot of modern conveniences of the time. Silverware, indoor plumbing. Indoor plumbing, now that was something. You know, did it have hot water and cold water? That's pretty cool. Alright, um, so, you know, a lot of things that we would associate with a houseboat. Yeah, it had, you know, it had living accommodations, silverware, plates, ceramic sinks, and all that. But yeah, you know, just being able to have that stuff on a boat at the time was pretty significant for the 1930s.
12:55 - Yeah, Dorothy, so part of that production that we were working on back in 2016, we had the opportunity to interview Dorothy. Dorothy was 11 years old at the time of that boat sinking. Dorothy McGlynn, correct. Dorothy McGlynn, that's right. And she had an amazing account of living memory associated with that boat, and her family's history with the Kee-O-Mee. And being able to document that interview as well, again, was just... It really made that whole story come full circle, from her experiences with the boat, actually being on that ship at the time, documenting how her father came back after the event. That we filmed in the interview, he was covered in soot, and he just came in the house, and he was just very, very distraught. And she just said one of the first things that he said when he came in was, "The Kee-O-Mee was gone." And just the weight of that statement, you know, kind of she carried with her for the rest of her life. So being able to document the Kee-O-Mee and show her the footage back in 2016 just really opened up so many memories for her. Well, this was their summer home for nearly a decade. Another house burning down, oh yeah, absolutely. It was definitely a pretty significant event for her. And listening to her retell those events was really impactful for me too.
14:28 - We were one of the first people on the scene, and now you've been back several years later. How has it changed over those years?
14:34 - The biggest thing that we've noticed is some of the structure of the Kee-O-Mee has been removed. My first diving on it, the propeller was there. Since diving on it, the propeller has been removed. We really don't know where that is today. It's still in good condition, I would say. There hasn't been a lot of deterioration, hasn't been a lot of impact from other divers on that site. But we haven't been able to really document the entirety of that site. So that's what we're aiming to do with this 2023 survey, is to re-dive on it, create a full 360-degree photogrammetric model, so we'll have a 3D replica of that site. We're going to extend our survey to include some of the debris field that wasn't documented back in 2016. So as the Kee-O-Mee caught fire, there were explosions associated with the gas tanks igniting. How much of that material was actually broadcasted farther away from the existing Kee-O-Mee site that might not be documented? We also have the capabilities with our smaller ROV to document what's inside the wreck that really hasn't been done even in that 2016 survey. So getting our smaller ROV in there, documenting what material could be inside the hole or underneath the boat, and really capturing that and preserving that. And she obviously flipped upside down as she was going down. So, I mean, I've been out there with you, and there's that debris trail of just the railing falling off. So that's going to be part of the survey as well.
16:18 - Oh, absolutely. With our sophisticated side-scan sonar, we can capture in much higher detail the extent of the debris field around the wreck. So we can capture that railing, we can capture some of the fuel tanks that we documented, and we can scan a bigger area around where the Kee-O-Mee sits now to really capture that whole site and everything associated with it.
16:44 - Uh, it was harrowing, you know, whenever you pull something... Now, we did have permission from Dorothy to extract the artifacts for her identification. One of the big things that whenever we do dive on a wreck is, what is it? How do we find out? Is this the wreck that we're looking for? Could this have been a totally different boat? Aside from collecting measurements, okay, we know that the Kee-O-Mee was 54 feet long, is that correct? That's yeah, close, yes. Yep, 52-54 feet long. In the podcast, we know our dimensions. So we know the dimensions of a wreck, we can compare that to other documents. But having the opportunity to interview Dorothy directly was a miraculous, a very fortuitous opportunity because we were able to pull up handles for cupboard doors, and she remembered stories associated with those cupboard handles. She remembered opening them up and playing with them as a child. Another significant thing was the ice tongs. They're like these big, big hooks that you use to grab onto ice and transfer them to an icebox. When we presented that to her, she remembered those ice tongs and had personal stories and personal memories associated with that tool. She loved it when the ice wagon came, and she'd be able to see the ice workers pull up the ice, put them in the icebox, and they'd lay it with food and pies and fruits and things. She was just like, it was so exciting because when the Iceman came, she knew that they were going to go out on the lake, and she just remembered seeing those ice tongs and they were just so cool.
18:34 - We pulled up chunks of ceramic, and she was able to identify those pieces of ceramic that were large enough for her to identify as the sink in the kitchen or lavatory. So she was able to identify those pieces of ceramic that were associated with her memories of playing in the water.
19:00 - It's amazing that she could remember all that, considering she was only two years old when the boat was built and went down. Hey, you know, I mean, it was a pretty impactful event, you know, so yeah, she had a lot of experiences on that boat, and it was amazing to be able to hear those stories as she was able to tell them.
19:17 - Well, right now, we're planning on going back and doing a much more comprehensive survey of the Kee-O-Mee, re-documenting it with our higher resolution cameras, and doing a full photogrammetry model. We're also preparing the ROV to penetrate inside the wreck for an interior documentation of the site. So our next step is planning and getting that survey underway.
19:43 - So, here we can see the propeller or the stern of the boat, the back of the boat, the rudder. Oops, we just saw a little bit of the bottom right corner, possibly one of the fuel tanks. Navigating along the top or the bottom of the Kee-O-Mee, heading towards the bow or the front of the boat. It looks like it's in pretty good shape. The environmental conditions of Flathead Lake are ideal for preserving wooden material, low oxygen content, cool water, and no direct exposure to sunlight.
22:01 - Now, in the event of zebra mussels or quagga mussels being introduced, all of this structure is going to be completely encrusted with a thick layer of those mussels, and we wouldn't be able to see the boat as it is. That's why it's important to document it now. There are so many reasons why it's important to document it now. The mussels are just one of the biggest threats that could pose a threat to this site. Also, the ability to interview people who have living memories of these wrecks is invaluable. We're losing them on a daily basis, potentially. Being able to connect with the wreck and tell that story is something we'll never have again.
23:16 - Being able to have that connection with that wreck will never have it again. Losing that story means losing some of our culture, losing some of ourselves in it. So here, we're taking the ROV and doing a rudimentary scan along the starboard side, or the port side since the boat is upside down. We're panning along the side. The Kee-O-Mee was a pleasure yacht, made to transport and have big old pot parties on it. That looks like a gas tank, likely. There were two main tanks and a couple of auxiliary tanks or emergency fuel tanks. One large 300-gallon tank and three emergency tanks.
24:24 - Here you can see it a little bit. Let's see if we can't get a better shot of it here. I think you were piloting the ROV at that time, right?
24:42 - Yeah, looking around. Yeah, that clip's almost over, so yeah, I think on this particular video survey, the main objective was just to document the wreck. It wasn't for full documentation purposes. It was mostly to show you guys the wreck because you were on the surface boat, and we didn't have you geared up in scuba ready. So we used the ROV to just show you what it looked like.
25:00 - Oh, this is good. This is actually a really nice shot. This must have been 2022. This was another trip I made out to it, so I have made several other dives on the Kee-O-Mee since that 2016 survey. So this is the first time we were able to get accurate GPS documentation or records of this site.
25:12 - Here you can see the railing extending beyond the stern of the boat, a major entanglement hazard if you're running an ROV. It looks like there's a large tank, likely one of those fuel tanks.
25:45 - So, what part of the boat are we looking at here?
25:50 - This is the stern or the back of the boat. Since it's upside down, it would be the port side, but here you can see it's the right side since it's upside down.
25:58 - And there you can see a little bit of the keel with the tether obscuring the view a little bit. Now we're navigating towards the front of the boat or the bow. 39 meters, so just under 60 feet.
26:23 - So, this was taken in 2022. It must have been kind of a fuller pool flooded lake, a little bit deeper. So all of these depth measurements vary depending on the depth or the volume of the lake. One year it's 54 feet, another year it might be 62 feet, about a 10-foot difference.
26:49 - What are we looking at here?
26:50 - This is the front of the boat. So, here, the front port side, the left side of the boat. This is where they had the most fire damage. This represents our main access point to get inside the wreck.
27:11 - Here we're actually getting inside a little bit. Welcome to your first view inside this boat since 1937. Since it sank, wow, look at that.
27:17 - So the blue ROV is a little heavy, it's a little negatively buoyant, so it tends to sink. It makes it really good for recovery operations but not the best for video documentation because it settles down. We can get a really stable view from static shots, but if we try to navigate deeper into the wreck, the thrusters are going to churn up a lot of sediments. So, I intentionally didn't want to go too far into the wreck using this equipment. Having scuba divers go in poses a really high risk because you'll see that there's a lot of pipes, there's a lot of stray pieces of timber, creating a really high entanglement risk. You'll also see the fine sediment that does get turned up. You'll lose visibility extremely quickly. So it's likely to be very high risk to send in divers into this site to document it because it's really small and really hard to navigate around in there. The ROV is going to be the best tool to use to document this site.
28:34 - When swimming around the outside of this wreck, there is still some sunlight that penetrates down, but it's far less intense than at shallower depths like six or eight feet. The lack of vegetation around the wreck is noticeable compared to shallower wrecks where new growth of weeds lay down as they die back, building up layers of vegetation. The Kee-O-Mee's depth helps preserve the site better.
29:32 - Inside the wreck, you can see the decking and some of the main structure on the keel. There is also a piece of piping or possibly a pipe, which poses a high risk for divers. Getting regulator hoses caught on it or facing difficulties turning around in an emergency is a concern. Brick penetration or wreck diving requires specialized training.
30:05 - Here, you can see an example of what it would be like if someone were panicking in a wreck, unable to see or easily get out. Diving in overhead environments like the Kee-O-Mee, where there is no direct access to the surface, requires special precautions. Preserving the integrity of the wreck is essential as a stray fin kick could disrupt important documentation or damage fragile artifacts.
31:10 - The main objective of the work is not recovery, but rather documenting the site with sophisticated technology like photogrammetry modeling to preserve it to the best of their abilities. Collaboration with leading maritime archaeology experts, such as Woods Hole Institute, provides valuable guidance on advanced preservation techniques. However, better equipment is needed to advance the project further.
32:02 - Undertaking such projects is expensive as ROVs and underwater camera equipment come at a high cost. While financial support is appreciated, more funding would allow for higher-quality work. From an underwater photographer's perspective, taking pictures and documenting the sites in a compelling way is one skill, but artifact preservation requires precise preservation techniques and proper drying, cataloging, and preservation when bringing artifacts to the surface.
33:33 - The approach taken is to document the wrecks as they are presently, which is significantly easier. Proper lighting, equipment, and skills are essential to do the documentation to the best of their abilities. It is a skill that takes time, experience, and knowledge of the site. Diving in the external survey area around the Kee-O-Mee has been done multiple times, but penetrating inside the wreck is a more challenging task that requires specialized training and equipment.
30:05 - Oops! There we're coming around. Here you can see a real-world example of what it would look like if you were panicking in a wreck, not being able to see or easily get out. [Laughter]
30:17 - Whenever you're diving in overhead environments like the Kee-O-Mee, which serves as an overhead environment, you don't have direct access to the surface. So, if we were in the wreck and ran out of air, had an equipment malfunction, or needed to evacuate the wreck quickly due to an injury, the environment inside wouldn't allow us to do so. Therefore, we must take special precautions to preserve the integrity of the wreck. A stray fin kick could disrupt important documentation or damage fragile glassware or other artifacts that we want to preserve.
31:10 - The main objective of my work is not recovery. My goal is not to take pieces away from the site. Instead, my objective is to document the site using the most sophisticated technology available. I aim to use photogrammetry modeling to document and preserve the site to the best of our abilities. We have reached out to leading maritime archaeology experts at Woods Hole Institute and established a good contact. They will provide guidance on proper wreck preservation techniques and more advanced methods.
31:54 - It's the best approach we have with the resources available to us. If we want to see this project move forward, we need better equipment. The ROV I currently use is a kit that I built myself. The reality is that these projects are costly. ROVs and underwater camera equipment are expensive. While we appreciate any financial support we receive, the more funding we can secure, the higher the quality of our work. As an underwater photographer, I have experience capturing compelling and informative images of these sites. However, when it comes to artifact preservation, removing a piece of equipment involves a complex process. To ensure artifacts can be viewed by the public, they need to be properly dried, cataloged, and preserved. It's not as simple as pulling out a piece of lumber and placing it on a museum shelf.
33:41 - Therefore, my approach is to document the wrecks in their current locations. It is significantly easier to dive down and document them where they lie. However, it still requires the right lighting, writing, and equipment to achieve the best results. It's a skill that takes time, experience, and knowledge of the site to document it to the best of our abilities. Regarding the external survey area around the Kee-O-Mee, I have dived on it approximately 20 times, if not more. I'm familiar with the wreck, the extent of the debris field, and what we can document through diving. Penetrating inside the wreck is a whole different challenge altogether.
34:29 - That first dive we saw on the ROV, looking at the interior and seeing how much debris is scattered underneath the deck, is fascinating. In some frames, we can see pieces of metal, pottery, and diningware covered in sediment. It's still a mystery to me. There are still loads of mysteries to solve here. What else can we find? What else is still preserved after that fire? Solving these mysteries is the whole point of this project. There are still stories to be told in all of these sites. There's still something that's calling out to be discovered. These types of projects require a lot of support, and every amount of support is valued.
35:36 - The Northwest Montana History Museum was a leading part of our 2016 survey, and it sounds like they continue to be an amazing support in this 2023 survey. Getting access to the artifacts last week and going through the archives to find the footage from Dorothy in 1928 was amazing. Thank you to the Northwest Montana History Museum for providing and preserving that footage. This episode would not be what it was without their help.
36:22 - Another special thanks to the Underwater Soldiers, the dive shop in Flathead, Montana. We did a couple of other dive surveys and used some of the divers to help document another site in Woods Bay, where we have located a large steamboat that is yet to be identified. It's comparable, if not slightly larger, than the Kee-O-Mee, measuring about 50-56 feet long. The back end of the boat is covered in an underwater landslide, making it difficult to measure. There's still more to determine about that site.
37:28 - Join us next time as we dive into more maritime mysteries and unravel another mystery here in the Flathead. Thank you for being here, and we're excited to share what we can find. See you next time!
37:42 - Thank you, take it easy.
37:48 - Thank you. [Music]