E25 with Georgia Homsany. Rewriting Self-Talk: Overcoming Burnout and Embracing Wellness

In this inspiring episode of the Everlasting Podcast, host Nico von Novena sits down with Georgia Homsany, the dynamic founder and CEO of Daily Dose Wellness. Join us as Georgia shares her journey from a high-pressure corporate career in marketing and brand management to founding her own wellness company dedicated to combating burnout and promoting mental health in the workplace.

Discover how Georgia's personal experiences and struggles with self-doubt and burnout fueled her passion for wellness. She reveals the pivotal moments that led her to leave a successful corporate job and start her own venture, Daily Dose Wellness. Georgia dives deep into the importance of self-talk and how reframing our inner dialogue can transform our confidence and mental health. Her recently published book, "You're Not Lazy," provides practical insights into building confidence through positive self-talk.

Listen in as Georgia and Nico discuss the challenges of maintaining a work-life balance, the power of small, consistent changes in habits, and the critical role of self-awareness in achieving personal and professional fulfillment. Whether you’re an entrepreneur, a corporate professional, or simply looking to improve your mental wellness, this episode offers valuable lessons and actionable strategies to enhance your life.

Tune in for a conversation that is both enlightening and empowering, and learn how you too can rewrite your narrative and find lasting fulfillment.

Listen to the full episode to:

• Explore the journey from corporate burnout to wellness entrepreneurship.
• Understand the significance of self-talk and how to reframe negative thoughts.
• Gain insights into balancing professional demands with personal well-being.
• Learn about practical steps to integrate wellness into daily life and work.

Guest Links:

• Connect with Georgia Homsany on LinkedIn
• Follow Daily Dose Wellness on Instagram
• Visit Georgia’s website and check out her book: https://dailydose-wellness.com/

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

Let me invite you to sit back, drop your jaw, tongue and shoulders, take a deep breath and, if you wish, close your eyes for a moment and feel the beat within. In a few seconds, you just jumped from your head to your heart and felt the beat within, opening up to receive even more value and fulfillment out of your business and life. And today's episode, I'm your host, nico van de Venne, confidant to successful CEOs, founders and entrepreneurs striving to achieve everlasting fulfillment. Welcome to the Everlasting Podcast with our next guest, georgia Hamzani. Georgia is a founder and CEO of Daily Dose Wellness, began her career in marketing and brand management before creating her own corporate wellness company. After spending over 15 years in corporate America, georgia started Daily Dose to provide virtual wellness breaks to give employees the time needed to prevent burnout and promote positive mental health, and I support that 100%. She's a self-taught wellness guru with a business background and complete courses on managing your mental health during COVID, digesting nutrition and yoga psychology. She recently published her first book. You're Not Crazy? Oh no, sorry.

Speaker 2: 1:29

You're not lazy.

Speaker 1: 1:31

Even better.

Speaker 2: 1:33

You're not crazy either. You're not crazy either.

Speaker 1: 1:36

Oh, a little bit crazy is fine. You know, changing your words to change your worth, to help people build their confidence through the power of self-talk, that is wow. I'm always amazed when people bring out books. I am not a writer, I'm a talker. I'm, you know, this is my thing. So what brought you to bring? I love the title. Like I said earlier, you're Not Lazy, I always think I am.

Speaker 2: 2:10

But you're telling me I'm not Go right ahead?

Speaker 1: 2:12

What's the story there?

Speaker 2: 2:14

We're our worst critics. That's why, Nico, so I am a writer, I love to write, so you know. To answer your first question, going back to when I was a child, my family used to take road trips a lot because both my parents were teachers, so in the summertime we had off, they would load us in the car and we would usually drive to Florida, sometimes cross country, and I would usually just listen to music and sit there and write poems and stare out the window and look at the scenery. So I've always liked to write, but I never really had this idea to write a book until the last couple of years and I've been doing a lot of work around psychology and understanding human behavior and it was frustrating me to hear a lot of people in my life talk negatively about themselves, whether it's calling themselves lazy or other things.

Speaker 2: 3:08

Oh, I'm so bad at whatever it is, insert anything there. And so that was really the inspiration for the book, because I kept saying you're not lazy, You're just taking the day off and enjoying your Sunday, right? So these are people that would work all week long and then be like, oh, I'm so lazy, I haven't gotten out of bed today or I didn't go to the gym this weekend and for me I feel like that's just our bodies telling us we need rest, but we guilt ourselves for taking that rest. Especially, I know that you're based in Belgium you said right, Nico, and the culture there I'm not sure if it's as bad as it is in the US where we are just workaholics and we guilt ourselves for taking the much needed time off.

Speaker 2: 4:00

Is it like that by you, or is?

Speaker 1: 4:01

that an American thing Very very recognizable absolutely. I am the definition of a workaholic, but not to me. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 4:10

You're juggling full time and then doing all the podcasting at night. That seems intense.

Speaker 1: 4:16

Yeah, I got the Monday, tuesday, thursdays are booked almost every evening with one interview and then on Wednesdays I usually have a one-on-one half an hour talk with some people in the evening as well, and during the day I'm a competence and training manager in a nuclear power plant really close by, so it's a challenging story even during the day. It's a very high profile, very demanding environment, but I enjoy it and especially these conversations. They're very fulfilling and filling. You know the educational and all those beautiful things. But I understand what you're saying about feeling guilt for being lazy between brackets, because we're actually not lazy. We're taking a moment of respite or it's just a break.

Speaker 2: 5:04

Right, right. And the other thing, too I I ask people to think about is what is it that you're guilting yourself into doing? That's making you feel lazy because it may just be something you don't want to do, but you feel like it's something you're supposed to do and so I talk about in the book. You know, we we need to stop shooting ourselves and basically telling ourselves I should really do this, I should really do that and look deeper into that to see if it's something you actually want to do, because if you hate going to the gym, then don't go to the gym. Find another way to stay healthy or stay active. Um, you know, I was talking to someone the other day and they're like I hate cardio, but then they played hockey and I was like hockey is cardio, that is a way to. So that is your way of staying physically healthy. You don't have to do that and go to the gym. Just find something that you actually enjoy doing.

Speaker 1: 6:01

Yeah, I can. It's kind of funny because last year I think it was last year I hired um, a yoga teacher another yoga tai chi teacher, yeah, and actually we did it in in this room. So he was standing right next to the door and I was standing on this side and, you know, doing the flow stuff, and I always loved the movements and so on, and he always started off with this exercises to get the body loose. Because since COVID, I started my business like 2019. And then 2020, february I really launched, and then March COVID came in and that's the moment.

Speaker 1: 6:36

From then on I was hooked to the desk, hooked to the computer, so my body was not exercising at all. Luckily, I didn't gain like 100 pounds or something like that, but in any case, I started doing those exercises. And the Tai Chi in itself was not my thing. It's a little bit too complicated, too many balance points and so on, so I didn't feel like it. But what I do still do and I'm quite a little bit proud of myself that I still do it. I get up in the morning and the only thing that I do is those warming up exercises. So I'm like at least I do something of exercises and I go for walks and so on. So it's not that I don't do anything.

Speaker 2: 7:18

Right and it sounds like that is ticking off something around your mental health too to just kind of starting your day with those exercises, and clearly that was something that you connected with, even though you didn't love Tai Chi, doing long sessions. You were able to just take away a couple little things that then you're able to implement each day, and that's when I feel like we really start to make changes. When you just take one simple thing like that and start doing it. It doesn't have to be an hour of Tai Chi, but you're just doing a couple of things to start your day and I'm sure you've noticed an impact, probably on your, your mindset, going into the day, just starting that way.

Speaker 1: 7:59

Yeah, absolutely it's. It's kind of it's. It's it's not a boost or it's nothing major or bombastic or whatever. It's something that you kind of it becomes a habit and when I've skipped it, sometimes I skip it in the morning and I'm like I'm uneasy, so I kind of sneak in a couple of exercises before I go to the job, to work or anything like that. But indeed and it's not the first day, it's not the second day, it's like a month later you start realizing, wow, those back aches are kind of residing and my elbows are not hurting anymore. So it's kind of these little things that indeed compile to a good, a good solution in the end. Yeah, yeah so what?

Speaker 1: 8:47

what's? What's the story about the yoga psychology? Because that's something that I I know yoga. There's a lot of stuff going on about yoga and the movements and so on, but you're talking about yoga. Psychology sounds like a completely different story there.

Speaker 2: 9:04

Yeah, so that was a course I took I didn't name it, but it was a yoga teacher and the course itself was more about understanding our behaviors and it went into things like perfectionism, imposter syndrome, shadow work if anyone's familiar with that and kind of going back to things that happened in childhood and reworking some of that, things that happened to us in the past and how we are basically still enacting a lot of those behaviors as business owners and kind of how we work through some of that. So yeah, it is interesting, I get asked that a lot. What is yoga psychology? And it was a course I took so, like I said, I didn't come up with the name, just the name of the course, then yeah, right, but the teacher did work in, like I said, a an instructor, so she would do yoga classes as well.

Speaker 2: 10:07

So it was kind of um, almost part it felt like a therapy session where people would be on and kind of she would go through the lesson and then kind of give us exercises to do. But then I think, when you pair it with the yoga which is that physical movement and it's just helping you release and work through maybe some of those feelings, and that, you know, I don't want to say baggage, but history, We'll call it history.

Speaker 1: 10:37

It's a nice word for it, yeah. Yeah, go ahead Go ahead, the oh, go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 2: 10:41

I was just going to say, because I think a lot of times you know, especially people when we go to therapy and it's like, oh, these are my issues or my baggage, and if you think about it, we wouldn't be the people we are today if we didn't have that. So it's just part of our story and I think you know that's what I really believe in is trying to help people reframe things, because I think we have a way of just going to the negative or putting ourselves down and there's usually a more positive way to say it. So that's what I really try and challenge people. So. But I catch myself right. So my mind went to baggage and I changed that to part of our story or our history.

Speaker 1: 11:24

Absolutely, absolutely. I always enjoy the question on. I was a guest on a couple of podcasts and I think one or two of them asked me so if you could go back when you were 18 years old, what would you tell yourself? And I'm one of those guys that just said nothing. I wouldn't tell myself anything because I would not be the person if I hadn't gone through all the struggles and the challenges that I've had in my past to sit right here at this point enjoying this conversation, and it's so important to understand that the baggage is good. Baggage is something that has created who you are, and even the things that are in there that you would rather take out and put aside or ignore are even things that you can be grateful for. At some point I even look grateful for my depression, so it's like this gave me the opportunity to become a resilient, strong person in mind and go through.

Speaker 2: 12:20

Yeah, exactly I feel the same way and you know I talk about my story in my childhood in the book which I had a good upbringing but you know I constantly felt in trouble as a child. I was upset a lot, crying like in my room, wondering why I couldn't do anything right quote, unquote issues or things we need to work through. But I look back and I think I'm feels like such a strong person as an adult and I don't think I would be that way if I was, you know, sheltered or didn't have to go through a lot of that strife that I did as a child. That was hurtful at the time. But I think if you can get past that, understand your, you know your parents are doing the best they can, but without that I wouldn't have this resilience that I have as an adult and it sounds like that's that's exactly where you're coming from as well.

Speaker 1: 13:17

Yeah, indeed yeah, and one of the things that I've learned in in all the knowledge and wisdom that I was able to acquire in the past couple of years was the, the work that you can do with your own child, the inner child. A lot of people say the inner child. I'd rather call it myself in the past because it's not in me, it's a part of me and is surrounding me, and it could be eight years old, can be 10 years old. I still got a picture of myself. I think I was six years old and I have this bunny. This is my. We called it Piet Conan, which was the name of the bunny, and I remember my dad.

Speaker 1: 13:52

We went to Bruges and one of the churches you could go to the top and then see the whole city and I was standing there, I was crying and my dad was like what's going on? Why are you crying? This is a beautiful view. Why don't you enjoy it? Pete Conant is not here. He's not here. My dad went all the way back down, got him, got back up and then gave it to me and that was like such a big gift as a small child being recognized as this is a bear and normally for men or for little boys, like that, is well usually the dad might say well, grow up or be a man or something right, and he didn't do that.

Speaker 1: 14:34

He was. I had a wonderful, very loving father. He was strict, absolutely there, was, there, was. He had lines and you did not cross them. That was very clear. Um, my mom was the same. She was very caring, very strict, and I had a beautiful upbringing. In essence, I had my challenges because of teenage years You're looking for yourself in the world and all that. So I learned to work with all those different personalities, in all those, from as young as I could think or remember, let's say, to the age where I came to the point that I I removed all the masks and I was I think that was like 26 years old at the time, which is, wow, that's 20 years ago. Oh, I'm getting older, yay, but yeah, I, I understand what you mean and sometimes the whole self-talk story. It's so strong within. How do you explain to people how to transform that?

Speaker 2: 15:37

Well, I start by explaining how we got here, because for me it really helps to understand why our behavior is the way we are. And once you have the awareness around that, that's kind of the first step before you can make change. Because a lot of times I think we don't even hear ourselves saying these negative things, because it's just innate or it's. Maybe it's something subconsciously we're thinking, but we're not conscious that these thoughts are running through our head all day long. When I was doing research for the book, I mean, this stat just blew my mind. But the average person has between 60,000 and 80,000 thoughts per day and if you think how many thoughts that are, and 80% of those thoughts, nico, are negative. Now if I asked you, do you think you have, you know, 50,000 thoughts a day running through your head that are negative, you're probably thinking no, that can't be possible. So I mean this. But clearly this is going on and even if it's half of that, it's, that's still a lot of negativity right, that's pumping through us. So I don't even think most of us realize this is going on behind the scenes, but it's affecting our confidence and how we show up in the world. So I think the first step is understanding that and having the awareness and then wanting to change. So if you, you know, still want to call yourself lazy, okay I can't really help you. But if you are recognizing, yeah, I am feeling kind of off and I feel like my self-esteem is kind of in the dumps or, you know, it's been declining let's take a deeper look at that and identify what are the things you're saying most regularly, on a daily basis, that are negative, and then we kind of work through how to get to that positive point. But there may need to be stepping stones in between. So, for example, I go through this whole process in the book, but the first step is identify your ROR I call it which is your record on repeat. So maybe it's not I'm so lazy, but maybe it's oh, I wish I was a better mom or I wish I was a better parent, or whatever it is.

Speaker 2: 18:05

It's first figuring out what are you saying most often, most regularly, and then step two, I call catch and release. So it's really just being aware when you are saying that and just stopping yourself from completing the thought. Okay, and then and that's that's difficult to do, right, cause we're just it keeps coming up and so. But once you could start recognizing it and stopping yourself in your tracks and just releasing that thought back out and just not completing it in your mind, then we can move into a position of either changing the words to make it more neutral so instead of saying I'm a bad parent, maybe just saying I'm a parent, and then it doesn't have any positive or negativity attached to it. And then, once you start becoming comfortable with that neutral phrase, you can move into something positive, like I'm a caring parent, or I'm great at teaching my kids lessons, or coming up with something that feels comfortable, that you do believe, but that's positive instead of focusing on the negative.

Speaker 1: 19:15

But awareness is the first key, because without that there's no starting point yeah, exactly yeah, but you kind of remind me of a conversation, uh, that I had with samantha amid about mindfulness and detecting those um thoughts. So is, is this kind of a form of mindfulness that you're talking about, just the detection of the thought? And then, well, the transformation of a thought is indeed. It does cost you a lot of, it needs a lot of energy, let's say in the beginning.

Speaker 1: 19:48

I think after a while. I have this inner conversation, sometimes with myself, where, as an entrepreneur, you have customers and sometimes you make an image of your customers like, oh, they're not happy, I'm not doing my job right, blah, blah, blah, and then really going through the whole shebang of doubt and oh no, I need to leave this customer. And I've, I've learned to embrace a specific word, uh called, and it's pronoia and it's's the opposite of paranoia. So where you think the world is against you, pronoia brings you into the world, is with me and will help me. And that's what I try to do, especially when I have these conversations in my head where I have self-doubt about somebody who might think that I'm not doing a good job. It's my image. The person themselves have never told me that I'm doing a bad job. It's so. Image the person themselves have never told me that I'm doing a bad job. It's so classic that you do that. And I switch over to saying no pronoun. It's one trigger word that I usually use for those cases.

Speaker 1: 20:46

I have other words for other cases, but it works really well, as long as you kind of train yourself on it.

Speaker 2: 20:52

Exactly, and the more that you start to do things, then it does become second nature. So, you know, you never hopefully never forget to brush your teeth in the morning, because that's just what you do. So if you can find ways and I, you know, one of the books that inspires me is Atomic Habits and I love the, the, the way that James Clear breaks it down and all the ways to incorporate new habits, and I try to adopt a lot of that into what I teach. For Daily Dose, as my business, you know, we'll do 30 day challenges and I really try and break it down so that we're giving people just one thing to do each week, because I think a lot of times we set these lofty goals and then it's hard to make change because we're really setting ourselves up, you know, for this mountain of movement instead of these micro doses.

Speaker 2: 21:48

So I think, in your case, just using that one word, I love that because now you have basically trained yourself. Okay, when I'm feeling X, I replace it with Y and that's what this is all about. But it does take a lot of work to train and it takes a lot of mental stamina and repetition. But if we could just start with one thing. You know what's one record on repeat that you say and then can you replace that with something, and then over time that negative phrase will just kind of dissipate and fall away and you won't have to try so hard to replace it.

Speaker 1: 22:29

Yeah, indeed, one of the things that I've also found to to the one word to transform is start asking questions, and it kind of breaks down the original energy, the negative energy that's related to what you're thinking. Like you said earlier, you might say I'm lazy, but you're not lazy, you're actually taking time, et cetera, and then like, actually, what you're saying is a bit the same, where you start asking, where does this come from? And I've learned to do that in my head. This was one of the therapists. I think it was the first person who ever taught me to meditate my first meditation. It was such a beautiful experience meditate my first meditation. It was such a beautiful experience.

Speaker 1: 23:21

I I've done years of meditation in in the meanwhile and I'd never came back to that point. I think it's like, I don't know, losing your virginity, I know, but it was something really really intense and special. But what she taught me at that point was as well as start asking questions and not go into the feeling, but start asking questions what's this, what the feeling? But start asking questions what's this, what's going on with me and where am I feeling this? And you're transforming the whole energy block Instead of you know, coming down on you.

Speaker 1: 23:49

You're kind of pushing it away and saying, hey, what are you doing here? Why are you talking to me or what are you doing here? And those are little things that can help you so much with with all these beautiful instances that help in happening in life, because I've never liked the idea that that there are are so many negative things about it. It's, it's true, it's not positive and it's sometimes heavy, and I know I've been there. Um, but once you think about it and you start learning these little tricks, they're all little gifts that you give yourself in becoming better each day. You know, 1% better each day cumulates to millions of percentages.

Speaker 2: 24:35

Right, exactly, exactly. But a lot of times that feels uncomfortable because we feel like we should be doing more and bigger, better, you know. And so 1%, I think a lot of us are like, oh, it would take too long, let's, let's do 20% right out of the gate. And you know, that's why a lot of times people fail at New Year's resolutions. Right, because it's like, oh, I want to lose 20 pounds in the next 10 days and it's just like that's difficult to do. Or I'm going to run a marathon, but they've never even ran a mile. You know, not saying it can't be done, but, you know, can you start with something that is a smaller goal and build yourself up? That way you're not just going from zero to a hundred.

Speaker 1: 25:24

Cool. So what? What are you? Are you prepared to tell us about some challenges that you personally were involved with in your past as an entrepreneur or within corporate America, or anything like that?

Speaker 2: 25:41

Sure, yeah, so I. I mean I never planned on being an entrepreneur or starting a wellness business, so I could talk about that, but I was at a job that I loved. I started my career working for different ad agencies and then eventually went internally working in brand management for a beverage importer, and I loved my job. I thought I would be there my whole career and eventually I had reached a point of burnout, just with some dynamics going on at the company and not feeling like I was getting the support I needed, and it drove me to the point of just up and quitting without knowing what I wanted to do next.

Speaker 2: 26:28

And I like talking about burnout now because I've learned a lot about burnout at the time. I've learned a lot about burnout At the time. I was just frustrated and quit my job, but now I realize that I was burnt out and it wasn't necessarily because I was working long hours. And this is one thing I learned about burnout and what I try to teach people now that it's not just about the length of time we're working, because I think a lot of times people think working long hours is what causes burnout, and that is something that can cause burnout, but it's not the only thing. So if you don't know how your work's contributing to the organization, or maybe you don't feel supported by management, these are all things that can kind of chip away at you know your goodwill at the company and that could start to make you feel a certain way that could lead to you burning out. So it's not just working long hours. So for me it had more to do with me asking for support on certain things and not feeling like I was getting that from my manager. So understanding that I try to help people in organizations, especially managers, know that. Because if you are not giving your employees the recognition they want, if you aren't letting them know how their work is contributing to the company as a whole and they feel like they're actually making an impact, these are all things that could play a role in burnout.

Speaker 2: 28:08

So after I left my job I didn't know what I was going to do next, because I had worked in marketing for 15 years and I had went and lived abroad for a bit and when I was abroad I was trying to figure it out and I was kind of doing a side project with this yoga instructor. I'm trying to help her bring retreats that she was doing to the corporate space, cause I was like, oh, this is great. I started doing yoga retreats. I was like you should offer this in the workplace. Started doing yoga retreats, I was like you should offer this in the workplace. So that was the connection of what helped me pair my corporate background with wellness, but it was always going to be something I did on the side.

Speaker 2: 28:48

Then the pandemic happened and my trip abroad was cut short and I had to fly back. And then I had this moment of panic where I was like, oh my gosh, I just quit my job. Now what am I going to do? This trip got cut short and I have to figure it out soon what I'm going to do for income. And I started applying just for regular marketing jobs and I was just like my whole body was like no, no, no. Like the flags were going off, like you do not want to just get another marketing job. And I had.

Speaker 2: 29:22

So I reached out to the yoga teacher and I was like what if we kind of try and office and make it more of a full-time thing? And she was like I actually have to take a step back because I've got other things I'm working on. And so at that point I thought, should I just try and do it on my own? And I remember filing the LLC papers. And then they came back in a couple weeks and I was like, oh, I think I just started a business and so it wasn't really this pre-planned thing. Um, but my thought was okay, I just spent my you know the bulk of my career in corporate, loved what I did, worked long hours and didn't mind, but I reached a point of burnout.

Speaker 2: 30:07

What can I do to help provide more resources to employees in the workplace who might be going through the same thing? Because I can relate to that and I think the corporate world does get a bad rap. But I love business. I was a business major in college. I took all the hard courses, whereas a lot of my friends would joke around because they were like accounting economics I'm out of here, I'm switching the communications major and I was like no, I want to do it, I want to be a business major, and so I'm proud of myself for that. But I do love corporate America. I know a lot of people leave it, but for me I felt passionate about staying in that space, just kind of moving over to the other side of it.

Speaker 1: 30:55

So you've been, you've been there, you've been in the burnout space. Let's say, say, for instance, you've, you've stayed within corporate America and just continue on the road. What would have happened? Do you think Because there's a lot of people who do stay in that business or in that position and don't take the action of what you just did which is enormously brave, by the way to leave a good you know platinum golden chair?

Speaker 2: 31:23

Yeah, yeah, you know, I think this is why people have mental breakdowns. I do, because I mean, I felt myself being a very angry, stressed out, frustrated person and you just don't like the person that you are, you don't you? You're recognizing that your environment is not where you want to be. Another thing that was going on was and I actually made this move before I left the company, but I was living in New York city, which is very energetic, vibrant, but high stress, um, high competition, and I loved my friends, my family, my apartment, I had this great job and I just felt like, even though I had everything and I was living comfortably, I just didn't feel joy and I commend myself that I was able to recognize that. And I thought I never wanted to end up in the New York area, even though I grew up in New Jersey, I knew I wanted to be somewhere where the weather was better year round, better cost of living, and so I told myself, okay, where are we going to move? Because, you know, I was single and I was like, oh, I'll meet someone, figure out where to move together. And that wasn't happening. I hadn't met my person yet. So I was like, okay, I'm just going to go alone.

Speaker 2: 32:51

And so I made the decision to move to North Carolina and I didn't know if my job was going to let me stay and it would have been a lot harder finding a job doing what I was doing in North Carolina versus New York City. So it was definitely a risk and luckily, when I went in and had that conversation with my boss he said you've been here long enough, we're okay with you going remote. So I actually was still with the company when I pulled myself out of New York. But I noticed that my mental state improved greatly when I moved to North Carolina because my work-life balance I finally had that, because when I was living in New York I was commuting almost some days three hours a day, two and a half three hours a day round trip because I was working in Connecticut and I didn't mind it. At certain times, you know, it was my alone time or my time to catch up on on work stuff. You basically don't have much free time. Oh, okay, it cut out for a minute.

Speaker 2: 34:04

Um pretty much I would get home and it would be. It would be okay. You have time to either eat dinner or go work out and shovel something down after, and then that's pretty much it. Then it's time for bed. So when I, when I moved to North Carolina, that definitely helped me find a place of I felt more joy in my day to day. Um, when I moved to North Carolina, that definitely helped me find a place of I felt more joy in my day to day.

Speaker 2: 34:26

So I think, if you recognize that you're feeling a certain way, once again I tell people the first thing is awareness, so doing a daily check-in like how am I feeling? And if you're noticing that you've been feeling stressed out or depressed for weeks at a time, months at a time, hopefully, not years hopefully we're doing something before it gets to that point. But take a look at what is causing this, what are the factors going on, and then what's one or two things I can start to change, just to see if that's making the impact. So for me, it was first my environment.

Speaker 2: 35:05

I knew I had to get out of New York because the culture there, even though I loved it. You're constantly comparing yourself to others. Oh, my roommate's making this much more than me, or I haven't gotten promoted in this amount of time and I want to get to that next level and you're constantly striving and chasing after the next thing and I just knew that that wasn't healthy for me and I wanted to just be happy with what I had. So that was kind of the first part is having the awareness. Then, after I was down here in North Carolina, there were still issues going on at the company or where I wasn't feeling that support, and that's when I decided to. Then I had to leave my company, which I never thought when I started there I would would be leaving.

Speaker 2: 35:53

Yeah, that's why I said because and I mean I have conversations with myself all the time and it's like OK, okay, what's the game plan here? Because I can't keep doing this. So sometimes we have to set a timeframe, maybe, or if there's something going on in your company, have a conversation with your manager, but then if action isn't taken and that's kind of what I said to myself all right, I'm going to literally go in and say I was having conversations with my boss where I said I need you to step in, I need your help. And that was responded to by you can figure this out with so-and-so, and I was just like I can't, like I could figure out a lot on my own. But if I say I need your help, I need your help. And so I knew we're no longer matched up and it was sad. I I still keep in touch with my whole boss.

Speaker 2: 36:49

I'm hoping he's not listening to this, getting mad at me, but uh, but that's that's the reality that's the reality it's great if you're still in contact with that person.

Speaker 1: 36:59

That means you've still got some beautiful form of respect that's still there. That the history you have together.

Speaker 2: 37:06

Interesting that it worked out where I quit my job and then the pandemic happened and that almost pushed me into starting Daily Dose, which never would have happened. I mean, I literally was having my exit interview with my boss in November and I said what do you think? Because we were friends. And I said what do you think I should do next? And he was like I think you should start your own business. And I was like, no, I definitely don't want to do that. But in my head I was still thinking marketing. So I was like, oh, there's too many marketing agencies, the world doesn't need another one. And then I, you, and I'm still figuring it out. So but yeah, it's just funny, that conversation took place in November and then Daily Dose started in April. So less than six months later I literally was a business owner, but doing something different than I thought originally.

Speaker 1: 38:19

Yeah, kudos, kudos, Really it's. It's something that's. It takes a lot of courage to, you know, resign from from a good position. I know what you're talking about, because it's pretty funny. Actually, I resigned in November 19, as well, so, but I did plan to start a business right after. Yeah, the wonderful time that COVID came in. It kind of changed a lot of things. But what you were saying is what I was hearing as well is the difference of a path that a path can take you when you at first think, yeah, but I'll have to stay in this corner of the universe, because this is what I know and this is the story that I've been telling myself for so long. And then, eventually, you know, events happen and bring you to a totally different thing and I can, I might be filling in, but I feel that you are much more fulfilled in what you do these days.

Speaker 2: 39:17

Yeah, I mean, listen, when I started my last company I loved, loved, loved is work and you know most people are miserable at their job. That makes me sad because I actually feel very grateful I've had a career where I've loved every company I've been at and I really did like the work I was doing. It's just you have to recognize that maybe a time comes where the culture at a company is no longer conducive to your growth. And it doesn't mean that it was a bad company, it's just time to move on. And you know, maybe my path will cross with that company again in the future.

Speaker 2: 40:16

I don't know, but I was very fulfilled there until I wasn't. And yes, now the work that I'm doing is fulfilling. But you know, maybe something will change with Daily Dose and then we'll transition and be targeting something new. So I think you just have to be OK with things being fluid and I believe a lot in signs and the universe and kind of what's being handed to me, because sometimes I think, oh my gosh, I wish I just stayed in that job another two years and got through the hard part of COVID, you know, financially stable. But I know that that wasn't the plan for me because I don't think it would have happened if it wasn't supposed to happen.

Speaker 1: 40:57

Yeah, I agree. I understand what you mean by the flow of the universe, and when you're in there it kind of flows in that way, absolutely.

Speaker 2: 41:05

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 41:07

So if I look at what you're doing these days, there's a lot of stuff that you're doing remotely on.

Speaker 2: 41:18

Yeah well, if I understand, you're doing everything virtually yeah, well, if I understand you're doing everything virtually, so right now we are. We can service businesses in the raleigh, north carolina area, but we haven't had requests for in person yet other than speaking events okay, so yeah everything's been virtual okay.

Speaker 1: 41:37

so if we, if, if somebody is listening right now and they're saying, wow, this sounds great, I really, really would love to have some sessions planned within my company. Where would they go?

Speaker 2: 41:53

What would they do to reach out for you? They can find Daily Dose Wellness on LinkedIn. Otherwise, my name Georgia Hobsony. So for those listening, not watching, it's Georgia, just like the state. My last name is H-O-M-S-A-N-Y, so I live on LinkedIn, but I'm also on Instagram and then, if anyone's interested in the book, the website is my name, georgiahomsanycom. But yeah, we do all sorts of corporate workshops addressing mental health burnout. We do financial wellness workshops, nutrition classes, so we try to cover a lot. That way, we're a one-stop shop for companies looking to incorporate these breaks in the work day to help prevent their employees from reaching a point of burnout.

Speaker 1: 42:44

That's beautiful, but yeah, I.

Speaker 2: 42:46

I would love to connect with people and just hear any part of your story or anything that we talked about today that resonated with you.

Speaker 1: 42:55

Yeah, absolutely, because I think the things that you're doing are are needed. Especially I see that a lot in in the customer environments that I I also worked in in the past and and do these days a lot of people are still a bit stressed out after the, the pandemic. Even if we're like two years later, people still have that influence somewhere of course.

Speaker 2: 43:16

So yeah, yeah absolutely.

Speaker 1: 43:19

thank you very much for your time, Georgia Of course.

Speaker 2: 43:22

Thank you. Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1: 43:25

It's been a pleasure. It's been a pleasure, absolutely so. Thank you very much. Thank you and thank you very much to the listeners. Yes, check out our new e-book on the just launched new website. I just launched my newest version of the website. So, wow, I hear a horn.

Speaker 2: 43:45

Sorry, I'll mute myself here. This is a train going by.

Speaker 1: 43:48

You have the train in the back, so it's kind of the background music that's happening, it's like a wrap-up music here. Yeah, yeah, you couldn't have planned it better. That was scripted people. That was scripted couldn't have planned it better. That was, that was, that was scripted people.

Speaker 2: 44:03

That was scripted.

Speaker 1: 44:07

I've gotten in with the train conductor. Yeah, it's fun. It's fun, so, no, thank you very much, george, for your time and thank you very much, listeners, for joining us today to listen to thank you for listening to the everlasting podcast.

Speaker 1: 44:21

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