The Most Dope
Unraveling DJ Stereotypes & Building a Successful Career
Ever wondered why DJs often get labeled as insecure divas? Join us as we unravel this stereotype, diving deep into the insecurities that haunt many in the industry. From the pressures of staying in shape to the financial stress of relying solely on DJing, we share candid anecdotes and insightful analysis that highlight the significance of understanding individual circumstances. Whether you're new to the DJ scene or a seasoned pro, you'll gain a fresh perspective on the complex dynamics that shape the DJ community.
Experience the adrenaline rush of DJ competitions and the camaraderie that binds the DJ community together. We take you behind the scenes of friendly jam sessions and high-stakes gigs, showcasing the support and growth fostered by institutions like the Beat Junkie Institute of Sound. Learn about the preparations and pressures involved in living up to past performances, and hear firsthand stories that underscore the universal desire for recognition and validation within the world of DJing.
Lastly, we delve into the practical aspects of building a successful DJ career, from strategic promotion and networking to the nuances of working with clubs and venues. Discover the keys to creating successful events through passion, consistency, and strategic marketing. We also share personal experiences that emphasize the importance of genuine support within the DJ community and the balance between personal and professional commitments. Tune in for a comprehensive exploration of the challenges, thrills, and strategies that define the DJ world, and get ready to be inspired by the dedication and passion of those who live and breathe music.
Thank you for listening to this episode of The Most Dope Podcast! We hope you enjoyed the ride and found some inspiration along the way. Make sure to subscribe, rate, and review our podcast on your preferred platform. Stay in touch with us on social media for the latest updates, behind-the-scenes moments, and more dope content. Until next time, stay dope and keep the good vibes rolling.
Ever wondered why DJs often get labeled as insecure divas? Join us as we unravel this stereotype, diving deep into the insecurities that haunt many in the industry. From the pressures of staying in shape to the financial stress of relying solely on DJing, we share candid anecdotes and insightful analysis that highlight the significance of understanding individual circumstances. Whether you're new to the DJ scene or a seasoned pro, you'll gain a fresh perspective on the complex dynamics that shape the DJ community.
Experience the adrenaline rush of DJ competitions and the camaraderie that binds the DJ community together. We take you behind the scenes of friendly jam sessions and high-stakes gigs, showcasing the support and growth fostered by institutions like the Beat Junkie Institute of Sound. Learn about the preparations and pressures involved in living up to past performances, and hear firsthand stories that underscore the universal desire for recognition and validation within the world of DJing.
Lastly, we delve into the practical aspects of building a successful DJ career, from strategic promotion and networking to the nuances of working with clubs and venues. Discover the keys to creating successful events through passion, consistency, and strategic marketing. We also share personal experiences that emphasize the importance of genuine support within the DJ community and the balance between personal and professional commitments. Tune in for a comprehensive exploration of the challenges, thrills, and strategies that define the DJ world, and get ready to be inspired by the dedication and passion of those who live and breathe music.
Thank you for listening to this episode of The Most Dope Podcast! We hope you enjoyed the ride and found some inspiration along the way. Make sure to subscribe, rate, and review our podcast on your preferred platform. Stay in touch with us on social media for the latest updates, behind-the-scenes moments, and more dope content. Until next time, stay dope and keep the good vibes rolling.
all right, y'all most dope. Next episode we got ill flow here joining us again. Yeah, thanks, grandma. Thanks for coming out. My, my brother. No doubt we got Queen B over here. Hello, marion.
Speaker 1:Hello.
Speaker 2:Marion. You can't say Marion and you can't even call her Marion. I have to call her babe. You start calling people by name and that's like a I hear you. It's like when your mom gets you in trouble and she includes your middle name, gordon Lee Baldridge.
Speaker 3:Call you the whole thing, yeah, yeah, your whole government ID man First, middle and last.
Speaker 2:It's because it's about to be on your death certificate.
Speaker 1:That's right. He knows not to call me Mariana. She hates it. I hate it.
Speaker 2:It's like you're in trouble when we're fighting or something.
Speaker 1:Like Marion.
Speaker 2:And then automatically either the confusion of the hurt or the anger starts coming out like how dare you? All right, so I think we're on episode four, season one, episode four, that's right. Made some adjustments to the roadcaster, all the different educational settings that I had to go in and change like gate and attack, and try to get them levels right yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And then I got the magic mastering. So when I do upload it, it it adds an extra layer. They call it an instagram filter for audio, and that's what this buzzsprout additional layer does is it cleans it up. Supposed to make everything good. We'll find out when we upload this thing tonight. That's right, all right. We got a sensitive topic today for a lot of people, I suppose, or a lot of insecure little little little little people questionable energy people.
Speaker 2:Why are djs such insecure divas? So have we ever wondered why djs have a reputation for being insecure divas? I definitely have. I mean, I've only been in the game for a year and a half and I already have. I'm like hey, what's your problem, dude?
Speaker 2:yeah it's like hey, if I'm a threat to you at a year and a half in, I don't think I'm the problem man. You might have to get a little better. Yeah, you might have to up, get up your game or something, I don't you know. And I'm not. I'm not ill flow, I'm not dose, I'm not fucking og redeem, I'm not any of these people, right, I'm coming up under all of these people. So, uh, yeah, I don't get it. Um, we'll dive into it though. So what fuels insecurities with, with DJs? What do you think?
Speaker 3:Not being in the gym. Yeah, yeah, if you go like you know it's, it's I think it's the equivalent to it's a lot of things, man, but one of them would be not being in the gym, like if you ain't in the gym you know what I mean and then gym, you know what I mean, and then you go pull up to the pool party you're gonna be insecure about taking your shirt off?
Speaker 2:yeah, for sure, yeah, yeah, you know, man, you haven't been minding your p's and q's, your diet, putting in work, watching everything.
Speaker 3:Yeah yeah, you're gonna be a little, you know, and then when you see someone else take their shirt off, then you might be a little jealous you know, what I mean. There's that, you know, and then and then, and then, and then. There's people that there's, there's people that are that are actually working and relying on this bread to, to survive.
Speaker 2:I'm glad you brought that up because I've been thinking about that a lot and I was like, ok, we're not all the same. I don't know ill flow's life. People don't know my shoes, my life, I don't know johnny and marcy's, linus, roberts, you know, anybody else's I have no idea, absolutely. So a lot of the times, you know, I see these posts by you know several people. I won't call anybody out by name, but I see these posts about uh, we all gotta stick together, got to all charge the same, we got to do all of this thing and it's like well, you know what, for me and I'll let everybody into my life For me I do this because I enjoy it, right, it's a hobby, it's a passion, it's a love for music. I don't do it as my sole income, right, it's not my sole income. So I can't expect the next guy to do what I do. I can't expect the next guy to charge 2500 for a wedding. If he charges 1200 a I don't know what bills that dude has. He's trying to support his family. I have no idea. That's none of my business. Um, and the other thing is is you know, you, you see these posts and and people will be like you know, again complaining about other people quote-unquote, undercutting or taking too low, or you know, I think I don't know what.
Speaker 2:The average is like 250, 350 for a club night or something. I don't know what people are charging right now. Right, that's another thing. I don't ask, I don't care how much you make my guy, I don't. I don't care. If you make 500 for a night a, I'm with you, man. Right, if you make 200 for a night, I'm also with you, whatever you have to do to take care of yourself and your family and everything else you know. And then, if you're worried about the 200 dj, quote, unquote, taking your gig, then at some point I feel like we have to look ourselves in the mirror and ask ourselves, okay, what exactly has gone into this decision? Right, is the club just cheap as hell? Right, trying to change, trying to save money, not trying to commit to the, the quote unquote, better DJ or whatever it may be? Um, a lot of factors go in?
Speaker 3:Absolutely. There's a lot of factors that go in. You know I base my pricing off supply and demand. You know, if I'm in demand and I got two months booked out, my price might change a little bit. Sure, yeah, because I'm two months booked out and you know people are still banging my line so I could probably charge a little bit. Sure, yeah, because I'm two months booked out and um you, know people are still banging my line, so I could probably charge a little more.
Speaker 3:Yeah, um, I try not to burn myself out when it comes to the gigs. You don't want to be out there every weekend. I don't want to be out there every weekend no I don't want to take every gig either. Not every gig ain't for me, no, so there's a lot of things that go into it. Um, I I'm I'm not solely basing my income off of just the DJing, so I don't rely on it so I can turn gigs away. You know what I mean. I don't want to do Quintinietas every weekend.
Speaker 3:And I especially don't want to do the low-balling ones that want to keep me there eight hours. I don't even like going over four hours. To be honest, it's tiring man. Yeah, Not for just me. I would rather take no money and jam out with like four homies and us just play music that we like and have fun and knock it out bingo.
Speaker 2:I feel like when you get to four hours, five hours, six hours and this is just me personally and I have a, I have a pretty good music library, but I feel like I start running out of music man, like I'm running out of ideas, like I don't got enough for this particular crowd. Like five hours in, am I gonna? Am I gonna play a song for a second time, like it'll definitely happen.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, as time goes on, and like, as long as you keep your library, you know I mean growing, it keeps growing and growing you'll be like five hours is nothing. You run through five hours. Yeah, you can go anywhere and you'll be you. So you start surprising yourself whenever you get to that point, because you're like, oh dang, I just ran through that whole thing, no problem. And you're digging deep and it's just because the time has passed by. Where you have, you know, because it's like writing a song, each folder that you put together, like if it's a certain type, that's a song. Like you writ that song, you put like 20 songs in there, you know that this is a certain pocket, and then, bam, you store that thing and then now it's there forever. Yeah, and like you keep storing them and storing them and you keep DJing every weekend. It and you keep DJing every weekend. It's like compound interest. So when you step out, sheesh, you go any pocket. You know what I mean. And people are like who is?
Speaker 2:this guy.
Speaker 3:Because you know you're seasoned and you spend some time on it and your library has grown and that's when it's like you become to this mature stage where you can go into any pocket and rock any crowd and it's fun. Yeah, it gets super fun when you get to that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Open format, true open format. For sure, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 3:Being able to jump from like Latin and then go into rock and then jump back to reggaeton and they want some country or they want some funk and you and you're up to date and you're current on all the classics and the new stuff hitting some disco hitting some oldies yeah if you could jump around like that man and just keep a party cracking bro like you're golden.
Speaker 2:You know, and I was watching I think it was one of the road podcasts, man. I was watching it and they were talking about um hating. Do weddings, man, like? Weddings are the most difficult thing because you have all the age ranges, right From five years old to 80 years old, 90 years old. You have all the different possible music genres that they went through. You know the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, everything else, and it's very, very difficult to keep everyone's attention or keep everyone entertained, which comes into the whole open format thing and bouncing between country salsa, rock, merengue, pop, hip hop, rap and just keeping that all over the place to try to keep everybody happy. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:You know, in the beginning, when it comes to doing weddings, bro, like I remember I was, I felt the same way. I was frustrated, like it's, it's, it's, uh, it's, it can be. Like anything, bro, when you start something, you're not gonna be as good. Yeah, you know, you might have been a good dj, but you you're, you know you, you didn't have that many weddings under your belt, so you, you're not familiar with the process and it could become nerve-wracking because you know your wedding's gonna have 200 people off the top, off the rip like guarantee in there. So everybody's staring at you and you're the center of attention and it's an important day.
Speaker 2:It's important, it's a big day to screw up on somebody, right? So?
Speaker 3:in the beginning, when you first starting off and you're doing weddings or let's say you've been djing for a while and then you go start doing djing, you start djing weddings, you know, um you get you're not gonna be good. In the beginning it's nerve-wracking, you know. I remember not wanting to do them ever again yeah, never again.
Speaker 3:I had a brightzilla, you know the words, know, and it was just like man, I'm never doing any weddings again. But, um, now, you know, with the technology and all these apps and all these platforms and all these DSPs and like these playlists and man, it is so easy, man, like I could do a wedding. Man, it's so easy and they and they pretty, they pretty much. You know, if you do a proper consultation with your clients, you know they're gonna give you everything you need. Yeah, you know they're gonna give you everything you need. And if you, if you do prior proper preparation, you know you're gonna be prepared and you're gonna see what, what type of music that they like and you'd be like, oh, I know exactly what pocket they're in.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know, I know where to go.
Speaker 3:They like this then they like this, then they're going like this, you know, and you just slide in and then when you go, when you go pull up, you realize it's cake, yeah, like all. Like, once you're prepared and you got your confidence up, there's nothing they can tell you. It's like again. You've been in the gym, my beer belly gut is gone and the six pack is flexing. Y'all gonna wait, just wait, wait till I take my shirt off, y'all gonna love it you know what I mean and that's what it is.
Speaker 3:It's just being prepared and being on your, on your stuff what's that?
Speaker 2:uh, you, you have this saying, and I think you've said it every podcast that we've had and I don't even know if you've noticed that you've said it, but it's, you know, it's always some inspirational shit practice makes, makes. What Progress? Oh, yeah, for sure, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:You're never going to be perfect. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. No, no one's perfect. You know, whether you're you as a human being or personality, but you know, um, this practice, you know, when it comes to life, you know there's a lot of stuff that we can't control. You know life throws stuff at us. You know, whatever cards you were dealt, and there's things you can't control.
Speaker 3:But if there is something you can control, you know, to make yourself better or whether, when it comes to your craft, you know it's up to you to really want to do that, and so, um, with my craft, I decide to practice because that's one thing that I can control. You can control that and it's a form of self-discipline. Yeah, so, like I'm not people be like, you ain't gonna be cutting it up like, why do I need to learn how to cut it up? Or why do I gotta learn how to juggle and this and this, and that I'm never gonna use that? I rock parties, I rock, do I do these big shows and this and this and that I don't need? Yeah, and they're right.
Speaker 3:Even me, man, I do hella big shows and you know, and sometimes I'm not cutting it up, but you know it's, it's the sprinkles on top of the sundae, you know it's the syrup on top of the cake. You know it's the extra topping, it's the spice on top of it and on top of that, you know it's self-discipline, if you can commit to, to, to, to being better. And it's a, it's a challenge. You know how far can you go? Yeah, you know. Only you know, or only you can push it, and whether, if you believe you can or you can't, you're right. You are right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah you have decided it already decided already, you're gonna go along that path so it's up to you and what you want to do. See, I, I like to pride myself in trying to do everything, man. Trying to, to learn all of it, trying to do all of it. You know, I started out with a rev, one right controller. Why the fuck did I need to go to turntables and and everything else? Because I want to learn all the way back. I want to go all the way back through the history. I don't want to just get on a controller and then move forward. I want a foundation. I want that base foundation. I want to be able to, like you said, I want to be able to go in any setup turntables, 1200s, cdjs, controller, whatever. I want to be able to go to anything and and get on it and and go. I don't want that to be a limiting factor, right, yeah, and then I don't want to pigeonhole myself in anything like I only do clubs, I only do weddings, I only do parties, because then you're limiting your business as well. Right, I'm like I'm the white boy and I'm doing, you know, quince's and and you know a whole, a whole lot of latin and spanish and hispanic parties. I have no business doing other than the fact that I put myself out there, I study the music, I prepare, like you said, the things that you can control, I control absolutely. Yeah, yeah, that's it right there.
Speaker 2:What do you think about the competition, man, between DJs? The competition, like, for instance, you did the Meechay battle recently, right, and you won it. You're proud of it, right, oh yeah, and you went up against some other people. Now, if we lost, we might feel a certain way, right, if we win, we feel a certain way, and is there a certain level of animosity? Is there a certain level of of anything else? Um, and I won't say by you necessarily, man, because I feel like you're just overall, just a chill, good, you know, like I won, I won, I lost, I lost and I'm gonna go back into the you know the warehouse and work it out, work it out, figure it out, come back, try again, right, I?
Speaker 2:don't got I ain't got nothing against xyz, that beat me right. But that's not universal, that's not for everybody. Some people start disliking somebody because they're that good right yeah, man, um, I've lost a bunch of times already.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean and, uh, it just comes with it when you, once you understand, like, if you're talking about, when you say competition, like if you're talking about battles, yeah, you're gonna lose. But if you're talking about competition as far as like just djs trying to compete with gigs, that's another thing. And then you got competitions with, like you know, I'm saying when, when dj homies come together, like whenever we do, uh like whenever we have, uh like little jam sessions, like you'll see, like every holiday we have, like when the holidays come around, like we'll throw jam sessions and and everybody's in there like and everybody's waiting for the turn, and whenever they come on, everybody's. It's not a competition but everybody's like, okay, cool. You know, I remember one year we do it was dos muchos party and we had a dj up in there.
Speaker 3:A dj from from bakersfield was up in there and ace, we couldn't get nobody it was. It was a full-ass crowd up in there and it was, like you know, supposed to be some funk and some old school type vibes, but ace was the one that ace. Ace cracked him, he got him on the floor. All of us was trying, was going hard in there, like we were all in there and he. He played la chona and it was a rap.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, you know what I'm saying, hey know your audience man and sometimes it just be like that man like. So, when it comes to like djs, yeah, man, like you just got, you know, like when it comes to the competition, like everybody, everybody's a gladiator, warrior, you know, and we all, we all shot, you know. You keep each other sharp. Yeah, and and and and. Yeah, there's some, um, there's some emotions that fly around for sure, because, um, you know, everybody's got some type of passion for this. You know, if you, if you, if you're in this, there's some type of passion, you wouldn't spent that two racks on that freaking laptop. That's just the start.
Speaker 1:That's just the start.
Speaker 3:And now we're collecting music, we're collecting equipment and now you got to go outside and perform in front of people and with your peers Shoot. I remember when I first started, man, when DJ Miff was one of the uh, you know uh, he still is one of the guys that was out there running around doing hella gigs, super nice on the turntables, and he just happened to be one of my homies and I was starting up and I was nervous DJing around him in front of him because these guys are so good.
Speaker 3:You're just like god damn, you're inconfident about your current, your current um ability and that's why I like about, uh, you know, the beat junkie institute of sound is that when you go out there, um, that's the first thing that they crush is like hey, everybody in here is in a different path in their journey. Do not let somebody who's further ahead in their path, you know, distract you from where you're at. Yeah, and we're all gonna help each other, and so there's different levels of skill sets and we're all under there trying to sharpen our skills and we just sharpen each other up. It's not there to like let nobody down. Or it's not there to like, uh, we're not there to like, like, show off and burn, burn the next djs. Nah, we're working on routines and this is the. This is. This is this. It might be a little small baby scratch and some dj might be like crazy with the scratch, but nah, we're doing small baby scratches today you know we're not going crazy.
Speaker 3:You know, and and that's what I love about being out there, bro is that it doesn't matter what you know, skill set level, you're at everybody. You know everybody comes together and, uh, we train together yeah, yeah, what, um?
Speaker 2:what kind of pressure do you feel, man? What kind of pressure do you feel? So when you're at uh, you're like you're at a high profile event, high profile venue, what's the pressure, man?
Speaker 3:uh, living up to your moment on the stage for sure, like you know, I mean like, uh, as your status grows, and then you get to, you know, or or like somebody like gets big eyes when they see you and you've killed it and they go to book see you and you've killed it and they go to book you again and you're like fuck, I hope I can recreate that, yeah.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:That's pressure, that is a lot of pressure. Or you being somewhere that everybody knows you're a good DJ or you're a dope DJ. Right, and this ain't a um. I prefer to go rock a crowd that nobody knows me and I just surprise everybody because they be like yo, this guy is dope, yo they're excited.
Speaker 2:You're fresh, you're new. You're new blood, you're fresh. But then when?
Speaker 3:you step up into that room and everybody knows who you are, and then you go to jump on and they pull them phones out. Oh, that's pressure, bro, that is pressure you don't want no shoes in the dryer man not only that, like what if you didn't prepare a set and you were just at the homie's house on the wind, free flown? For just you know you gotta come with it you know I'm saying so.
Speaker 2:We have, uh, in sports sports they call it being on fire right there they, they find their, they're just they can't miss right kobe hitting, you know 80 points or whatever you know. Do you ever feel like you get to that, that zone, if you will, to where everything just gets shut out? You don't hear anything, you don't really see anything. You're just in this zone and you're just rocking, just flowing.
Speaker 3:You know just hell, yeah, hell yeah. For sure it happens a lot, does it? For sure you know it happens a lot, a lot, a lot. And you know, and and even when you think you're not, you're like you're not sure if you are, because there'll be times where you be locked in and maybe you might not have a big crowd or maybe you might be, you know, a little far away from the crowd to where you can't feel the energy. So you're just like I just got to go, and then they'll show you.
Speaker 3:They'll jump out of their skin. You know, and you're just like, oh, I got them. And then you just can't. You know, just keep it going yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm not, I don't know that I'm super there yet, man, but yeah, we've all had moments. We've, you know, at all the events that we've done, we've had moments where you hear the scream, right.
Speaker 1:Like oh shit, that's my. You know, that's my song.
Speaker 2:People start jumping, people start picking people up, throwing people in the air and shit starts getting real wild man Crazy. Yeah, mm-hmm, yeah, that's a beautiful feeling. It's a beautiful feeling.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's almost addictive because once you get it, you're forever chasing it. You're chasing that, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:What is it called Chasing the dragon?
Speaker 3:Yeah, chasing the dragon man.
Speaker 2:I ride motorcycles too, right, so it's called hitting the apex. Okay, right, and it's. It's that that sweet corner, it's that sweet spot that you come in and you hit, and you just hit it at the perfect angle to where you hit that apex and you, you start rolling into the throttle and the bike just just perfectly goes on track where it's supposed.
Speaker 3:It's like you're on rails, man, and hitting the apex, yeah is that when those cross rockets, like where they're like leaning and they're like damn near, like their knees are hitting damn. Okay, I got you.
Speaker 2:I love it, man I love it I'm gonna have to, I'm gonna hey. I'm gonna tell you right now, I'll never get rid of my crotch rocket. It's, it's locked up.
Speaker 3:Okay, I thought you're pointing to it, like it used to be in the room we used to keep it in the room but I moved it off.
Speaker 2:I'll never get rid of it. I love it. It's the most uncomfortable fucking thing in the world, though. Your body will hurt your back, your hips, your knees.
Speaker 3:So it's not made for riding back and forth to LA. No, don't do it.
Speaker 2:Don't do it, man. No, so I'm, eventually, we, eventually we're going to get a cruiser, so we can just, you know, get on the motorbike sofa, if you will, and just head out somewhere, that's right I would love to just go over to uh eagle mountain right, but a hour drive on that thing how long?
Speaker 3:how long is a? How long is a drive? Until it gets uncomfortable?
Speaker 2:what like 20 minutes yeah well, I mean, I'm, I'm good with it. You know, I I'll tell you what. Man driving from here to the coast and that's a two hour, two and a half hour 215, 145, depending on how fucking fast you're flying um motorcycles a, we got to stop in quiama, new quiama or whatever. We gotta get gas, right, you own, you're like a four gallon tank on the fucking bike. You fill up here in bakersfield, you take off. Quiama is like the halfway point. Put gas in, then get out to napomo or central coast, right, you know, you're familiar with the coast.
Speaker 3:Shout out my boy chumpy he be, he be right he be riding his bike back and forth. I know that fool riding his bike back and forth from the central coast of bakersfield. I love right, right, oh man. It hurts bike, oh man.
Speaker 2:It hurts, man, it hurts and I don't know. You know I'm 44 now. I don't know if it's just my body, but my uncles have all told me the same thing. They said you're going to have to get rid of that thing eventually. You know, your back is going to just hate you. Your body's going to Cruisers. They don't do what you said, man. They don't lean over towards the damn ground, man, and basically rub elbows and knees with the ground, the asphalt, cruisers. You know they just mosey around, right, right. But I like that apex, I like hitting that apex, I like entering the corner and I like exiting the corner and when it's just flawless and you roll off the throttle and back onto the throttle, it's just beautiful, man, when you don't have to sit there and readjust the throttle and you're kind of herky-jerky going around the corner thrill, yeah, yeah, nice I've almost died on one man.
Speaker 2:That's the big left helmet up there. I keep that thing up there as a reminder.
Speaker 3:Uh, I see the scrapes on that thing whoo, that was 166.
Speaker 2:Man, that was, uh, right off of the 101 speed demon. Huh nah, man, that was, uh, that was about 11 o'clock at night. A group of riders, mix of riders, man, harley's regular motorcycles, oh you know we're talking about the 166 freeway.
Speaker 3:Yeah, gotcha, oh well I have been up there.
Speaker 1:Man, I was gonna say yo 16, what's 66 yo?
Speaker 2:crazy, these bikes, man. They're crazy man. They weigh 300 pounds and they have 200 horsepower. Right, the horsepower to weight ratio is insane. And sometimes it's the bike, but most of the times it's other drivers, man, sometimes it's the new rider. You know, it's the, the kid with all kinds of testosterone and shit and messing around, doing shit you're not supposed to do, and then some, most of the time it's just other people distracted on their phone.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you know the competitive nature, the pressure to deliver validation of skills, right, I think a lot of DJs want their skills validated by their peers. Possibly. You know other DJs. You know, of course, you know the regular average listener. They don't know what they're listening to, necessarily, man, they don't know the intricacies, the blends, the counting, everything else. You know the social media post that goes around. You know DJing is like playing Tetris on level nine for four hours. Right, Shit's coming at you fast. You got to think ahead of time. You got to be four steps ahead, five steps ahead, whatever it may be. But the validation of skills, man, how important is that to? I guess some.
Speaker 3:DJs man Shit, that shit's important. I think it's important to everybody, anybody and everybody. You know what I mean. I think, no matter what it is, you do like we can say that I don't need nobody, you know, to validate me, but in reality, we're human beings and and we all want love. We want some love, man. Yeah, we all want love man, everybody wants some love.
Speaker 2:it was funny, man. You had me and Dose go over to Jerry's right. Uh-huh, that one night we went over there, two Tuesdays ago or whatever we went over there Taco Tuesday. Taco Tuesday Went to Jerry's man and I've never played in front of you and I've never played in front of Dose. I don't really play in front of y'all man because, like you said, you playing in front of other people kind of intimidating man, especially when you're on the lower end. You know, I don't got the chirps and I don't got the transformers and I don't got all this other. You know all the toolbox that you guys have. Yet I can blend, I can transition, I can make it sweet, I can make it smooth you can party rock yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So I'm over there and I get on them finally, and I I've never been on his reins or anything. So I'm looking at him, man, I'm having to make sure that I know where everything's at. You know pretty much, a mixer is a mixer is a mixer man, but with little differences, right, little layout differences, pad differences, whatever he has mapped, differences, all kinds of shit. So I get on man. He's like hey man, what did he call me? Light skin?
Speaker 3:He said I got a new name for you man, you DJ Light Skin. He did tell me that shit, because he's not a white boy, he's light skin yeah.
Speaker 2:DJ Light Skin man. He hit me up a couple times throughout the night night and it was all love man, and I needed it. I needed it. You know, I don't see the same thing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he was like hey, homie know what he's doing bro that's what he told me. You ain't got nothing to worry about anytime we need him.
Speaker 2:He good but I was like word.
Speaker 3:That's what's up yeah, because I ain't heard you play either. So yeah, I'll get.
Speaker 2:I'll jump on one night and night and we'll all switch through and mess around.
Speaker 2:Man. Subjective feedback. Man, djing success in a DJing world can be subjective, absolutely Like it's to the eye, beholder, audience, reception, right. It can fluctuate Doubts. It leaves doubts, man, you have doubts.
Speaker 2:So for me, going into a club not to be mentioned, whatever it may be, I may have three people there, man, and it used to bug me out a little bit, and it still does to a certain extent. Man Like, yeah, I want 50 people, I want a hundred people, I want 300 people, I want to, I want to play and I want, I want to make people's nights, make people have fun. I don't have the, the name behind me, like myth, like like noctcturnal, like ill flow, like dose, like you know, all of these other djs in bakersfield, noe, everybody, danny, all of these guys, man, I don't have the name behind me, I don't. I don't work in radio. I haven't worked in radio, I haven't, haven't done any of that. And I'm a year and a half, two years in, man, and I'm, you know this is called paying your dues kind of thing. Right, right, but but who are we paying dues to? Right, and I'm, you know this is called paying your dues kind of thing. Right, right, but but who are we paying dues to right?
Speaker 3:absolutely. I hear you. Yeah, yeah, um, I think. I think it's just, um, I think it's just a matter of, of, of, of, just keep you know, because it's a, it's a. You know, if you were to, like, promote yourself and put ads out there, I'm sure you would get some leads and then you would be rocking in front of crowds, but when? But? But then, like you know, you know, like, let's say that you're on, you're on the rise, right, and you start rising and you start getting you know to certain clubs, or or you, you get to la, and then you're like I want to get to the big club. And you get there and you're like, man, this shit ain't shit. You know, I'm behind this. I wanted to be in this booth this whole time. I get back here, raggedy ass mixer.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Just like this shit ain't shit, Tape on it.
Speaker 3:They're trying to tax me for drinks. I couldn't, didn't even offer me water. You know what I mean. The pay shit. You know what I mean. Wanted to get here this whole time and now that I'm here, it's like this, ain't nothing. So it's never what you think it is. Yeah, you know, I mean that's one thing. It's never what you think it is. And then, um, you know, if you want to, you want to, uh, you know, jump in front of more crowds, then you, you know, target them, target the crowds, and then, and then figure out how to market it how to get in?
Speaker 3:yeah, because you know, or or or throw your own party in and create your own crowd if the spot is not, if these people are paying you and they're not doing you justice by doing promotion, because a lot of venues they're looking for a DJ who can do a bunch of stuff for free and the free stuff is the flyers and the promotion.
Speaker 3:You know, I mean there's this uns, this is unsaid line that no one talks about you know and and you'll know it, when they tell you, hey, uh, when you, when you are booked at a venue, yeah, and, and you you're like cool and you just don't do a flyer, uh-huh, and they'll be like, hey, can you do?
Speaker 1:a flyer and then you'll be like, hey, can you do?
Speaker 3:a flyer and then you'd be like well, I, actually I charge a hundred dollars per flyer and I charge for posting too.
Speaker 3:So, you know, if you pay me extra 200, I'll make sure that this flyer gets into all the major groups with the big people in there, and I'll make sure I get some people to repost it, to repost it. Uh, you know, get your bartenders involved and get them to repost it. Yeah, you know, and then I will. I will market it. You know what. I might even use a small portion of the budget that you're giving me to pay for some boosting ads, since you're not boosting it. You know, and these things right here are, you know, are are things that we don't speak about when it comes to negotiations. And when you're in negotiations, it's a war, because what's good for you is not good for me and what's good for me is not good for you. So, until we come to an agreement and we have mutual business and we're getting bread together, then this is negotiation. Yeah, you know, and sometimes these, these venues don't lock in with you. They don't lock in with you because they want you, they want to be free, they want to be able to, uh, free, landscape and book whoever they want. Yeah, you know, if you, if you're not working out and I get it, it's business. You know, we're all trying to get to the business, so it just depends on what you're trying to do. So, a person like you, if you like, man, I don't want to be rocking on empty clubs and don't rock the empty club, bro. Go find the, go find the club that is cracking, or go find a bar who has potential and they're just opening up and they need help. Yeah, you know, I mean, and they're willing, they're more receptive to ideas and they're willing to uh, to um, invest in the night. You know, I mean, because a lot of times it takes a plan of action first. First, you got to make a plan of action correct. How are you gonna go going to go about it? Yeah, you know, like, how are we going to promote this? And then you got to find out who your demographic is. Yeah, you got to dial in. Who are we targeting? Are we targeting 40 and up? Are we targeting the OGs, like you know, 50 and up? Or are we trying to get the youngsters? Yeah, you know, or are. What are we selling? Are we selling bottles? Are we just a bar and we're selling entertainment? Are we selling a good time? If we're selling a good time, let's figure out a way to how many tables do we got? We got 10?. Let's fill each five per table. All right, it's a number. Let's go for these numbers. You know what I mean. Let's dial in and let's put some work in. Are you going to holler at other DJs to come be guests and have them repost the flyer? It's a whole.
Speaker 3:That's one thing that I think that Bakersfield lacks these days is a promoter. There's no promoter out there. What promoter do you know? That is known, a known promoter. The only one I recently came across because I won that battle is the Michi events. All right, he has become a promoter and he's throwing promoters, promoting shows every week and they're big shows and they're filled with people. He's got a following. He understands his niche, so he's targeting that niche and he's understanding what type of venues he wants. So he's hopping to the venues that he's like and, bam, they're rocking with him because he's bringing a whole crowd. Yeah, he's the only promoter. What promoter do you know, bro? Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2:No promoter I don't know promoters there's throwing shows. Well, maybe one or two, but you know, I know a bunch of promoters and they're named djs here in this town.
Speaker 1:The first name is dj, yeah, dj promoter.
Speaker 2:First name DJ. Last name promoter.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So you know.
Speaker 3:I think. I think what's missing is promotion and and and. When it comes into promotion, it comes to advertising, advertising and marketing. And when it comes to, you know, nowadays people Are just posting. You know what I mean. No one's advertising. No one's actually paying for ads On Online Paying Online Radio ads, paying advertising. No one's actually paying for ads on online paying online uh, radio ads, paying for tv ads, paying for posters to put up. You know it's a whole process.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's work so and I'm sure you've been there, we talk all the time, my guy, um, you can't make other people care more than you do. How do you feel about that statement? You can't make a club or a venue care more than you do. How do you feel about that statement? You can't make a club or a venue care more about their event or their whatever it may be? Then you do. You can't make them care more.
Speaker 3:No, I don't think you can. I mean um, I mean shoot you. You, you will be able to. You will be able to identify how much they care by just checking out their online stuff. You know what I mean. You could tell by how they move before you even get there. You know what I mean. You could tell. You could tell, and the ones that do care, it's going to be harder to get in. Of course, they've got it figured out. They've invested.
Speaker 2:And they're very particular about their demographic, about what they've built, about what they've set up. And hey, hip Hop Saturday, latin Friday, and getting that out there. But when you have a, when you combine I'm going to put this out there when you combine somebody not caring as much as you with a possible identity crisis, who are we, what are we offering? What are we doing? What are we about? And consistency in that. So people not caring more than you do, you can't make somebody care more than you do. If there's an identity crisis, who are we? What are we doing? What are we offering? Who's our demographic, everything else, and you combine those man, it it seems messy, it seems set up for failure I hear you.
Speaker 3:I hear you. Um, yeah, man, you just got to be on your stuff. Yeah, yeah, you can't speak. You know each venue is different, man. You know everybody gots their, uh, their venue, like every venue gots their um, their thing. You know what I mean. Um, I got this one lady downtown on baker and she, uh, you know she has a smaller venue, um and uh, it doesn't cost that much but to rent it out. But she stays consistent. She stays consistent and she doesn't feel like throwing parties and she doesn't want to open the doors up for regular patrons. Anybody riff-raff.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like a bar. You know what I mean. Yeah.
Speaker 3:So she would rather just have somebody book out her venue and she's probably in a situation financially where she don't have to throw parties and she's probably in a situation financially where she don't have to like throw parties and she's not chasing the bag. You know, there's people that are trying to survive and do business and do well, and then there's people who have invested and it's and, and, and and they and they're doing this shit for their passion. You know I mean and, and they're going to continue to grow and build it because they love it and they care for it. You know what I mean. And it's not just another asset in their portfolio. You know they're actually going to just go ahead and like, come up with something and they're going to keep fine tuning the approach until it works.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know what I mean and that's what it takes, man. It takes passion, love and caring. Like you said, I care, man, it takes passion, love and one and karen, like you said, I care. You know, and when you find you fine-tune your approach and you figure it out, then then you got something and you hold dear to it and then you know, you try to block anybody from messing that up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. So her, our havana night man, has been I won't say wildly successful. It's been successful, it's been great man you know, bro, 200 people congrats a pop. We're shooting for three, we're shooting for four and, quite frankly, I'd like to sell the joint out. Man, I would like to hit capacity. I would like to be able to turn people away Like, hey, we're full man.
Speaker 3:Lying outside. Exactly you got to get in.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, that's a whole big tables, yeah, and we're doing everything, man, we, uh, we've grown consistently over the last three havana night events. This next one, man, we're bringing in more talent, we're, we're, we're putting more technology in. We're uh, man, what are we? We got all kinds of crazy stuff going on. We're gonna have photographers, videographers that's another thing.
Speaker 3:That's like, yeah, that's another thing that I don't you know, um, I don't see very many, uh, that I would do if I own a venue, like I would definitely have. Like how I have security guards and djs and bartenders every night, like for sure, I'm booking a videographer and a photographer for at least one hour to come through and capture some reels and use those reels for the social media market going forward.
Speaker 3:Because you know this whole social media thing is an algorithm and if you're not posting three times a day, no one's going to see your posts. Yeah, so you're just wasting your own time and breath and money if you're paying for the flyer, um, because you ain't going to get nowhere.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:You know you got to post three times a day in order for them to open that algorithm up, because they want content creators who are creating content that is entertaining, because we don't want you on YouTube, we want you on our platform. So if you're playing, if you're creating cool content that keeps people on our platform, then I'm going to open up your profile a little bit more so more people can see your content. Because you're keeping people here, you ain't sending them to YouTube. Yeah, they're engaged here.
Speaker 3:That's our job is to keep people here. Don't post no YouTube link. You post that YouTube link, I'm burying it.
Speaker 2:You ain't going to get no likes, do not redirect away from us. No.
Speaker 3:This is real business. You know what I'm saying. So if you want to see some traction online and get people to your business that's actually out there you got to post more.
Speaker 2:So we're major investing man. The first two, first three, you should just open up your own bar.
Speaker 3:I would love to Figure out what it takes to get that liquor license, because that's the only thing that really stops stopping any of us DJs is that liquor license. Yeah, and it's a lottery, it's expensive, you got your credit right and if you don't hit the lottery you're gonna pay a premium price. So you know from somebody who owns it, but that's the ultimate goal, like what will happen is is that you know these djs get smart, you know, I mean, you know. I mean they end up opening. They realize that all they need is four walls and we can cut out middle classes.
Speaker 2:We can cut out two and three middle men, bingo, yeah, all kinds of stuff. Yep, yeah, we're, we're, we're doing everything we can with that thing. Man, like I said, we've I wouldn't say we've lost money during the first three, um, but we had no cover, it was free, everything was completely free and in the amount that we put in might have been mitigated by what we were getting paid. Right, we were breaking even. So now we're, but. But that's vision for me, right? I?
Speaker 3:feel like long term.
Speaker 2:That's, long term, that's not me trying to grab the bag right now exactly that's me seeing the bigger picture, understanding that we're growing to 200, 300, 400. We're boosting posts, we're posting. That's what.
Speaker 3:That's what you're supposed to do right there yeah, so we're yeah yeah, we're there yeah, and and that's another thing, like understand like you know, understanding like, uh, where you're at, you know if you, if you ain't got, you know, if you're not bringing, like you know, let's say, you got five, ten people in every friday like you know. You got to know how, if you ain't got you know, if you're not bringing, like you know, let's say, you got five, ten people in every Friday, like you know, you got to know if you're growing or not. You know what I mean the number, what's the number? You know what's the average last three months. Okay, the last three months, we've averaged, you know, 150 people a night. Okay, we got to figure out how to get to 100.
Speaker 2:Yeah, figure out how to get to 100. Yeah, and once you get to 100, we gotta figure out how to get to 200 there can't be no complacency, man, you can't be complacent. Yeah, yeah, you can't okay. We have work, we got 50 people, cool, whatever. I don't want that. I don't want that. I don't want the bare minimum, I don't want getting by. I want great, I expect greatness, I want great and that's what's crazy.
Speaker 3:Like you know, like when I I I'm getting on my, getting on my health, getting on my um, you know eating well and then and then, and then you know, with the whole practice practicing so much, you know I'm saying like once you start, once you get into that, to that pocket, in that lane of trying to be your best and doing your best possible, you realize that you don't want to be around any slouches. Yeah, you're like I don't want to be around.
Speaker 2:That shit might rub off on me, it'll bring you down. No, for real.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it'll drag you down, you want people who who are operating at a high level as well. Yeah, because that's how we're only gonna get somewhere. Yep, gotta push I ain't gonna carry you all in my bag. You gotta carry your own weight oh man, you've been quiet again.
Speaker 1:I don't really appreciate this.
Speaker 2:She's just chilling. It might as well just be me and Ilflow right here. You need to get involved. What questions do you have for Ilflow or for me? On the DJ game, on the business, on on different aspects.
Speaker 1:Okay, my question is like how do you guys, um, like, when you guys are doing a wedding, how do you guys like, cope with you don't have a good dancing crowd.
Speaker 3:Yeah, uh you I understand what you're saying. So all you could do, all you could, all you could do is just keep trying. Um, all you could do is keep trying, and and, and and. When you ain't got them, keep trying, keep trying to figure out where they're at. You know, sometimes you why not? You, right you, you might not get a crowd that just ain't into dancing. You might get a elderly couple wedding where these people are elderly and all their people are out.
Speaker 3:They want to hear sinatra and they just want to chill. Yeah, you know, or you, you, they might be dancing. You just can't tell because they're dancing in their seat.
Speaker 2:You know because they're ogs and they're like you know you got to watch body movement, you got to watch facial expressions, you got to watch people engaging. For me, yeah, there's a whole lot to it and those that's my consolation prize, if you will. First and foremost, I want the fucking dance floor. I want the dance floor. I want 20 at least on the dance floor, minimum, and I don't want to have to require a line dance to get that right.
Speaker 2:I want organic, I want music and I want because anybody can throw a fucking line dance on get that shit out there and then snap a picture, right, right, but your other four hours of that event was dead as hell. You know like who. What facade are we putting up behind the dj facade, right? Um, yeah, for me it's definitely that. And in in, the consolation prize for me is seeing people smiling, seeing people happy, seeing people tap their feet trying to find anything that says, hey, they love the music, they just aren't dancers. We've also had a dry wedding, and that's a challenge.
Speaker 1:No way, yeah, that's a challenge.
Speaker 3:I don't think I've ever had. I think I had a wedding where it was like it wasn't dry but it wasn't like Open bar. It was like, alright, we got the bar Open, who wanna buy?
Speaker 2:and people weren't Getting drunk yeah, we had a dry Wedding and, surprisingly, we rocked it. That's what's up surprisingly. And that kind of Validate. It kind of validates you right, I don't require alcohol To get people to have a good time. I can get on the mic.
Speaker 3:You know who don't need alcohol to have a good time. Teenagers, oh yeah, yeah, bro, I did a sweet 16 last year. I'll never forget it. Man, them kids wild out and it started raining and they know it started hailing and they jumped in the pool.
Speaker 3:In the pool, in the pool, they were wilding out they made you feel like a kid again man, it just made me feel like, you know, because they gave and I love that crate, that they gave me too, because, like the crate validated me as to knowing my stuff. Yeah, because, like everything that they had and they're like I got it, it's all good, like I know their music, yeah you mentioned that.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna ask you, man, how do you personally feel about requests? I love them, I do too, and I I I see so much hate social media, whatever about requests or twenty dollars and this and that and that and this is like, look, man, for me I take it as they are helping me. They're helping me. At least I know that this person's going to enjoy that song, and as long as it it doesn't stray too far away. You know, I'm playing some hip-hop and then now they want some death metal or something. I'm not playing that shit right. I haven't been to a death metal party or wedding or anything else, and I don't even think I have a crate for that shit man. I haven't been to a death metal party or wedding or anything else, and I don't even think I have a crate for that shit man. I would have to try to stream everything over title or something real on the on the go man I got some.
Speaker 3:I got a heavy metal crate with intros on those songs. Do you really like all intro?
Speaker 2:oh man, on these heavy metal crates yeah yeah, so I like, I like requests personally, um it gives me an idea of where they might be.
Speaker 3:Yeah and you and you learn stuff too, like you know. You learn new music, for sure, like you know they. And then you be like damn, like damn, you want that one. Like fuck, no, no, you know, I don't know, just gonna struggle with it like do I do it do? I're like do I do it, do I not?
Speaker 2:do it, do, I do it.
Speaker 3:You just got to realize that you are. If you're being paid to be there, right, if someone invited you to their house or their wedding, you know, and you just got to know where you're providing a service and people are not there to see you and what you play, correct.
Speaker 1:But you also have that one cousin or whatever. That's super odd, or maybe not to them being odd, but they request this song that you just know.
Speaker 2:It's going to bomb.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, play it. And the reason why I say play it is because you're going to make that person's day.
Speaker 1:Yes, exactly.
Speaker 3:That one person like you know what I mean. Yeah, sometimes you know, yeah, there might be some stuff you might have to turn away and it might be a bum. But then you know if you're being hired and they say, yeah, you know, if my people come and ask for a request, yeah, it's cool, then just I guess I try to play them right away. Yeah, I try to pay them right away, get them out the way. Get them out the way. But if it's a good one and I know it's going to, I'm like oh, this one right here is going to fit over here.
Speaker 2:I'm heading there. I'm going to weigh out.
Speaker 3:It's in the prepare'm ready once I get up those 15 bpms where I need to be. I'm dropping that motherfucker. Yeah, yeah. And then you know, you learn stuff too. You know, learn, learn. You know I learned a lot from requests. Yeah, yeah, I've learned a lot of music from requests like slide that one into the crate because I was a banger yeah, yeah, absolutely yeah.
Speaker 2:I love learning new music from people and look, man, like you said, the appreciation that you get from somebody, that they were quote-unquote important enough for you to play their song, for them it means the world to some people. Man, like, like, why not make somebody feel good if he, if you can, if you can make it fit in, why not? Why not? Why not make somebody's day, why not? And that got that person's day that you're making might make five other people's day out there too, because there's times.
Speaker 3:There's times when you're you're gonna be uh. There will be a time where you're not gonna take requests. You know there's gonna be times where you're somewhere and you're rocking this type of party, like, for instance, one time I did uh. I did uh shout out to the homie Cheeto. I did Cheeto's Rectified right, and Cheeto's Rectified is all vinyl. That's at the Mint, right at the Mint, all vinyl party he played, it's all vinyl. If you're a DJ and you get invited there, he's gonna ask you to play vinyl. And I went up in there with a 45 set and this chick was like asking for Bad Bunny Right.
Speaker 2:Obviously you got Bad Bunny on vinyl, right? I don't.
Speaker 3:But you know, Cheeto does. But, yeah, cheeto is crazy, bro, he's current Like you'd be like you got any Taylor Swift. You're coming right up Like on vinyl. I'm like yo, like he is current on his vinyl. Yeah, that's what he do. But, um, I was like, yeah, yeah, I'm not playing. No bad bunny, tonight it's vinyl night, yada, yada, yada. And she grabbed my cradle freaking 45s and started digging through. It was crazy.
Speaker 3:Those caught the, uh caught the little video online matter of fact uh, re broke podcast reposted it like, oh really, yeah, it was crazy. But yeah, like there's gonna be times where you, you know where you could, you, you, you're getting invited to be the selector you know, and this is your set you know people are here for you you've been invited to come, do you?
Speaker 3:you know what I mean? Like these people may not be here for you, but this is a jam session, and like, nah, you don't gotta take no requests, we just want you to get off. So there'll be moments like that and those moments are the fun, you know, because you get to display your style, you know your selection and what you think is dope.
Speaker 1:You get to be you.
Speaker 3:You get to be you and that's where you know those are the funnest.
Speaker 2:Those are the ones, those are the ones, those are the gigs bro, and they don't play that much, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 3:They don't play that much, I ain't gonna lie. No, but when you love this music and you love the turntable shit or this dj shit, whatever it is that you do, you know, um, those are the fun gigs. You know, I, I would, I would rather just rock out with four homies and all of us take turns, you know I'm gonna.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna hit you on cheeto right now. I've been messaging him. Over the last couple weeks we've been liking each other shit here and there.
Speaker 2:Whatever, he's been cool man he's been cool, supportive, and I'll detract from what I'm about to say right now. I have gotten more love from OG DJs, og, the vinyl guys. You know a lot of love from a lot of people that have been doing this shit a very long time and doing it on vinyl or whatever else, as opposed to the controller djs. You know some of the newer djs not a whole lot of love a lot of times, man, but for some reason the old heads man, they, they're cool, they're cool as fuck. So I've been talking to cheeto man. I was like hey, man, I I really like your, your digital art man oh, you like how uh he puts.
Speaker 3:Uh, yeah, that shit is dope. All them projectors, yeah, projectors, yeah that shit is.
Speaker 2:So I've been talking to him and I want to get involved in it eventually myself, for for my gigs, my uh, you are, uh, you talking about, uh, a projection.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, oh yeah man yeah me too, man, he, he inspired me too. Man, like um, being that I do a lot of streaming, I do a lot of, uh, visuals too, but I've never had it to where, like I, I don't got it to where I got, like, for instance, another homie, out there is a dj and he, anywhere he goes like he does big, big, like a little bit more bigger production, right, okay, he does the trust scene and everything right. But he always busts out tvs and he likes the dj videos, yeah, you know. So he'll, he has, he has his trust scene, he'll put two tvs up and then he'll he'll stream his, his videos to that. So you know.
Speaker 3:And then you got cheeto over here, he's, he's busting out, doing the same thing, except for he's um, it's his graphics, he's projecting, yeah, digital graphics, that's all he's doing is doing projection. Yeah, digital graphics, yeah, and he, but it's the same concept. But what was cool about it is that with cheeto, he understood the wireless part. So he figured out a way to like wirelessly, wirelessly send signal from this part for his thing, all the way to everything. Yeah, right, yeah, and I thought that was cool and I I'm trying to get my streaming in real life. So instead of me just doing it at the house, I was. I was doing when I would do that, 1933. I'll bam, hit all the screens and I'll make it look crazy, yeah and the same thing with a couple other venues.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean. And when you could do that, it just sets you apart, makes you look a little bit more professional. I'll do it at elements. Elements. You know he got tvs everywhere and big old screens, so that's a manual right. Yep, all right, and you know you could. You could hook up with your hdmi cord, but I thought it was cool how cheeto could do it wirelessly so he could virtually do it from any corner of the room.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, I mean, I'm like yo you ill for that one.
Speaker 3:But this is a couple little pieces. You know, you're just learning the game.
Speaker 2:So yeah, yeah, he's been cool as hell man.
Speaker 3:He said he was gonna help me out with it he said to come down, check it out, do everything else if you ain't checked out rectify, go check out rectify man. Rectify is dope man, like in that little patio in the back. Bro, yeah, you can cheat back there, you can just grab a few beers. I'll man, a lot of times I'll be gigged up and I'll be coming home from the, from a gig, and I'll just pop in and just burn one and you know and listen to these fools and orange dj, okay, so it's, it's fucking cheeto and orange.
Speaker 3:And then, uh, the homie, uh, estas Bien, has been popping up lately, but Orange gets down too, really, yeah, and I'm not like the type of music that he plays, like I'm not very like knowledgeable and know it very much, and it's not something that I listen to, I ain't gonna lie. But I can tell how dope he is from his style. He's playing all this stuff on vinyl and it's some crazy like remixes and stuff that you ain't never heard before and it's just like yo he's. He got a big ass beard, like you too, bro.
Speaker 2:He got a big old beard, like you bro.
Speaker 3:He's cool people too, man. I love Orange, orange and Cheeto, bro, both cool ass people man, Like it's been love ever since I since I met them guys. So I that's one party in beggarsville that I love because, um, you go down there, bro, and and cheetos playing everything and he's always gonna have like a guest so you never know what the guest is gonna play. Yeah, and then you know you gotta stop being popping up now. And then you know orange is always coming correct with what he got. You know, and you you might hear some like, um, some jungle or some drum and bass from orange, but then he might go into some raw underground hip-hop like super raw, so like real underground, so like, yeah, man, it's cool man, uh, um, then then you got the visuals and just you know that little back patio gets packed out, so it's a little vibe yeah it's a vibe so I don't like to be out too much, but I definitely pop in on fridays and and kick it for a good hour, are they?
Speaker 3:are they there every friday? No, it's the third friday of every month, third friday of every month, so I might be coming up this friday, matter of fact yeah, I might.
Speaker 2:We'll block that off ahead over there check it out, oh, next friday next friday.
Speaker 3:This friday, next friday yeah, hell yeah next friday is gonna be a cool one, though, too. I just saw the flyer it's gonna be. So they're not doing vinyl this next Friday, but it's Richard Duvall's birthday. I've seen that Duvall project, right, well, yeah, he's part of it, but he's also a DJ. Okay, yeah, they play a lot of house music. So it's Richard Duvall and Josex Josex. They got a whole. Their crew is the basement.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:And the basement is like whole sex. You know Richard Duvall, cheeto um orange. I'm sure he got somebody else with them and uh, yeah, they're doing that for Richard's birthday, so they're probably gonna bust out the CDJs and go crazy.
Speaker 2:I think I put interested on it, I think I seen the event and I think I marked myself interested and I think I think Cheeto invites me all the time. He's like hey man, you know just in case you want to come out, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's been cool, he's been cool.
Speaker 2:But that's. That's the difference, man is, some of these old heads, some of these older DJs, some of the aficionados, are the people that do it for the love of the music. You can definitely tell the difference between people who are doing it for money clout strictly money clout social media I want to be popular, whatever else and then the other group that does it for the love of the music and for the art and everything else absolutely. And for me I'm on that other end. Right again not to judge anybody else, who. I don't know anybody else's life, I don't know anybody else's money situations, but my belief in life, in everything that I do, is money comes as a byproduct. If I love what I'm doing, it's gonna come if I'm passionate, if I work hard at it.
Speaker 3:It'll come, it's gonna come, it'll come on its own it's gonna come.
Speaker 2:That's why I don't sweat things, man, like I always, I always try to look at the vision. A year down the road, three years down the road, look man, we get 400 people into Havana night. Those 400 people, they're going to remember Gordie B. They're going to remember, you know, ill Flow. They're going to remember whoever it is. And who do you think they're going to hit up when they have an?
Speaker 3:event For sure, and that's another thing, like how you were talking about. You know how you're talking about. You know, man, I don't like djing in front of zero crowds and I hear you, no one does, bro, but like you know those you never know who's in that crowd, even if one person pulls up, because that, like I'm trying to tell you, like I was in a bar and nobody was in there yeah, one guy walked in there and I still work with that guy to this day and and that's part of the reason why I DJ on the central coast so much Shout out my boy Tim modern symphony.
Speaker 3:It's cause he walked in, he saw me getting down and I was just in there having fun by myself and now we got. We got a you know, five year five year business working relationship.
Speaker 3:I'm doing three, four gigs a month with him. Sometimes, you know I mean and booking up, booking me a year out in advance. You know I mean like it's crazy. Yeah, you know, I mean we got, we got a really good working relationship. He throws me, throws me lives all the time, brings me out all the time. I appreciate him, he appreciates what I do for the company, yeah, and we just keep working.
Speaker 2:That's a mutual just just took one person walking in, yeah.
Speaker 3:So, uh, you know, uh, you know, learning from dose, dose, dose's approach. You know I should let him tell it, but I don't know if it's really, I don't know if it's his approach, but what I peeped is that you know, um, slow motion is gonna come around. So you know, slow motion is better than no motion. But when you ain't got no motion, you get out there and you make it. You get out there, yeah, and you make it happen. So, like um, you ain't got no motion, you get out there and you make it. You get out there and you make it happen. So, like you know, he'll just go out there and go bop around and go perform wherever and then someone will be like yo, you dope, and then he'll get a gig.
Speaker 3:He does that shit all the time and he just goes and just goes, showcases himself. That's you know what I mean. He pulls up where's the jam at? Who's over here? Okay, you jamming over here, I'm gonna pull up on you and you might just, he just pulling up showing love, and you might be like yo, hop on. I'm like all right, hell yeah, and he hops on. I remember one time I was DJing at Manuel G's for a Sunday Cowboy, cowboy games, cowboy games.
Speaker 3:Yeah, cracking, and I was like yo, dose come through, come through. He came through and I was like yo, close it out for me. You want Jabbar, like, because it's cracking in there. There's a hell of people in there. He's like hell. Yeah, I was like all starts to rocking and he's rocking the walkout. Because you know you got the walk-in and then you know DJing between commercials, a little bit of halftime, and then the walkout, we'll jam and keep partying until everybody leaves, you know. And I was like go ahead, jam the walkout. He's like I bet. And so, as he's DJing, sure enough some people come up to him and they're like you know, manuel G's a DJ too, right, and he still gots a lot of DJ business, you know, and people come book with him all the time and he hands them out or he'll do them whatever you know, and we're at Manuel G's business so they come up to him.
Speaker 3:They come up to Dose asking him for his business card, and he's like and then he goes. He's like hey, hey, dose, he's all like. You know, I'm gonna need Half an hour. I'm on my cut.
Speaker 1:Booking gigs in my place. Bro, what's wrong with you? It?
Speaker 3:was all he was. Just you know Messing around, but yeah, of course you know Stepping outside, just you know bopping around. That's another way of like, you know jumping in front of the crowd and and somebody seeing you and then leading. You know, leading to you to bigger gigs and bigger crowds, you know what I mean. Or just pulling up to you know showing love to other djs. You know that boy might need a bathroom break.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah man, you know what I'm saying he'd be like yeah, jump on, play three records, four records. You know what I mean, bet, and that opens up a relationship. And a lot of times they'd be like, how do I get in here, how do I get in here? And they'd pull up to the venue try to holler at them. The main way you get into a spot is through the other DJ. Bro, yeah, that's how you get in. Yeah, the other DJ is a dj. You got rapport with him. He gonna rock with you and then he'll he'll bring you on and when he brings you on, he'll introduce you to the owner and then after that, now you're trusted, yeah, and they see that you can get down. Now they know you. He said it was cool, so he's not breaking the business relationship with his main dj so he can fuck with you.
Speaker 3:Now you're on the side and it's all love. Now, yeah, you know, I mean everybody's cool, that's how get in. You don't get in by just trying to jump in, go knock on the door and holler at the manager. I mean you can and you might be able to get in that way.
Speaker 2:You might get in that way too. It's harder.
Speaker 3:You know, establishing rapport and networking with people.
Speaker 2:And see, I'm always respectful man Like.
Speaker 2:I'm not trying to invade on anybody's, I'm not trying to take anybody's business anything else, if I go in there, it's with the purest of intentions, bingo, I just want to listen to your set, show you some love and show up and leave right. Absolutely. I'm not looking to do a guest set. I'm not looking to drop anything, I'm not looking for anything like that, and I think what you said, that's the right way to go about it is through the resident dj, who is there but if you don't show up or show, does it look like you're hating.
Speaker 3:If you don't pull up to the event, does it see, do you see? Do you see what I'm saying? Yeah, it's a double-edged sword, it is. But if you, if you intentionally are just jump, jumping out and going, you're going and showing love and checking out djs, just to learn and just genuinely showing love. Like you gotta do it now, because once you get booked you ain.
Speaker 3:Like you got to do it now because once you get booked, you ain't going to be able to do it because you're booked. Yeah, once you start getting booked, you ain't got time to be pulling up to everybody's gig or showing love because you're gigging. Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah, you're gigging. You're just like bro. I just got done doing this gig. It's about 1 o'clock or 12 o'clock. I still got all this equipment in the ride. I'm not trying to pull over to your spot right now. Go check you out and have my shit out there. Plus, I'm tired.
Speaker 2:Hey, but this last weekend I tried to my dude, did you Remember? Hey, I was over there on Fairfax and Brundage at the Grange Hall or whatever Grange.
Speaker 3:Hall. Oh okay, I know what you're talking about. It's a cat corner, 7-eleven. I know exactly what you're talking about grimey old G shit oh man, weird shit.
Speaker 2:Man it was old, I hadn't been there.
Speaker 2:Man my dad got married there, like his his third marriage, I think and I hate to say that you know it sounds bad my pops got married the last time that he got married before he passed away and so it was a little, you know, a little sentimental or whatnot. But I wrapped up and that was a Mexican baby shower man, that was cumbias and banda and corridos and, you know, maybe towards the end of the night for the younger kids, we started. You know, I started playing some Megan Thee Stallion for the girls and shit, sexy red, oh my God, you know I started playing some megan the stallion for the girls and shit.
Speaker 2:You know, sexy red, oh my god man, there's some of that I'm, I'm knowing, bro, you ain't gotta tell me, I already know so, as I was leaving, I texted ilflo and I was like hey, man, I know you're over there, you know, I know you're mixing and everything else. I know you don't have your fucking phone on you, you know. But just, I mean, I'm wearing this, basically shorts and a t-shirt, you know, because it's hot as hell and that Grange building was hot as hell too. I was in there sweating like I won't even say man, but I was sweating. So I hit you up and I hit Jackie up and I was like hey, you think, you know, is it cool if I swing by? I'm in shorts, right, I just want to swing by, say hi, you know, show some support. And I didn't hear back from either one of you for a little while, right. And I got home and I was like hey, man, I'm already home, it's cool man. But you know, I was going to stop by and say what's up, man?
Speaker 3:And it was 12 o'clock, it was you know. Oh, man, you's been. It's pretty busy man, it's a busy night and I think if the DJ can keep them there, like I feel like in the beginning it starts off slow but then it'll pick up, but if it's not jamming, I feel like they'll dip. You know what I mean? I feel like like eh, On to the next one.
Speaker 3:Let's try to find out where it's cracking, yeah, like you know, and that's how that's the young mentality of, like you know, we're gonna step out and we're gonna go where it's cracking and like. And if it ain't cracking up in there, you know, and that that spot right there is like it's like 50, 50. You know it's 50, 50 young, 50, 50 ogs, like you know. I mean like it's here or mess, but it was cracking these last couple weekends I've been there man so one of the things I I've I've thought about, wondered, noticed is location, location, location, location.
Speaker 2:Right downtown seems pretty easy. I don't say that, bro, because that's where the crowd is right, that's where everybody's mingling between the three or four places to go jump between.
Speaker 3:I don't know, bro. I mean because you got to think, you know, the Mint was right there and Riley's been there for years, right, they got that little triangle effect, right, and then they shut down. You know, they shut down, syndicate, syndicate turned into Roosters or whatever.
Speaker 3:So there's no hip-hop going on? Yeah, right, so the only spot they really had was um, there was this mexican spot right there in between. It was lamina or la, something okay, and now it's. And they were trying to get that popping, bro, and they couldn't get it popping. But they, you know, I had a guy up in there. He was doing like latins and and hip-hop, but it just wasn't. You know, yeah, it wasn't translating, is it?
Speaker 2:I just feel like when you talk about the hideout, you talk about 1933. You actually have to make a plan to go to that place. That has to be in the plan, right? That it's, it's out of the way.
Speaker 3:Yeah, if you're in the area, because if you think of rosedale, like you know, like what spots do you got? Yep, you know, I'm not a nightlife guy like that. I pay attention to what's in my you know immediate vicinity. But, like I know, there's, like I know, there's gotta be like two more spots. There's like two more like Latin spots. They're like restaurants. Well, what's this one right over here, el Partar, is it El Partar?
Speaker 1:El Partar Ritmo.
Speaker 3:Ritmo, ritmo, ritmo is right here, nuestro is right down the street from Ritmo, so there's a bunch of little spots there, but it's all.
Speaker 2:Latin based. Huh, it's all reggaeton, latin. It's regulators crowd, if you will right, it's the Monopoly. They're all trying it to Monopoly. They have it figured out. They have their market. They have like we were talking about they have their demograph, they know exactly who they are, what they're doing, what they're offering and they are honed in on it. Regulator, who's the other DJ that goes over there? He does pretty big shit too, man. He has all the truss and everything.
Speaker 2:Oh, technique, yeah, technique yeah trust and everything oh uh technique, yeah, technique, yeah, him and regulator, I think, are kind of teaming it, yeah, nice. And then they even, I think they're up farmerville or porterville or something up there. They're up there too doing a, a club up there, man dope, same kind of monopoly theme all of it, man, yeah, all right. Hey, we're a minute 12 in queen. What are you closing thoughts? I'll put you on the spot.
Speaker 1:What are you closing thoughts.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, okay, thanks. Thanks for having me we're good Bye.
Speaker 1:That was good, everything was good. It was knowledgeable, learned a lot.
Speaker 2:How do you feel about some of it?
Speaker 1:It's a little all over the place. Djs are a little bit all over the place. For sure I mean they need to learn to be more supportive. Yeah, more supportive. I mean there's enough for everybody.
Speaker 2:Absolutely.
Speaker 1:There's enough for everybody.
Speaker 2:I support everybody. I share everybody's shit. I don't Everybody's story Nah.
Speaker 3:Nah, I'm more of like a. You know, I'm coming into this point where it's like I just want to be my natural self, and I noticed that about other people too. Like you could tell. You know, when somebody like you could tell, even with me, like you could tell, like, and it's just natural, like, or like when the artist plays me their music, you know what I mean. And it's not good, it's not like good to where you like it. Oh man, it's dope bro. It's dope bro, for sure I see you doing your thing.
Speaker 3:But then you know someone, he plays you something that's slapping. You're like, yeah, your reaction is just different yes and I want to keep that natural reaction genuine bingo I want to keep my authenticity, bro. I don't want to fucking be liking your shit just because we're friends. Yeah, you know, I mean like I, I that's my, like I if that's my choice you got to keep something for yourself yeah, I gotta.
Speaker 3:You know I get to choose who's in my circle. Yep, you know I mean you don't get. You don't get to choose who's in my circle. I get to choose who. I get to choose what I wanted to share.
Speaker 2:It's my channel, yeah it's my page, my channel, everything don't be mad when I'm not making it.
Speaker 3:Your channel, yeah, you know, I mean like I will support your stuff when I like stuff. Yeah, and it's natural. You know, if I see, you know I mean if I want to support it or if I got time. You know, I mean like if you got an event going on, like if I can pull up, I'll pull up. You know, I mean I'll show some love, but I got stuff going on too yeah I don't get mad when people don't show up, you know, I understand, I understand. Like everybody got life, be life.
Speaker 2:But um this last weekend right, that's the other words of wisdom he always uses life be life, oh, life be like I got that from Babu.
Speaker 3:Babu told us that in class. You know like man life be life and we understand because they constantly have events every weekend, you know what I mean, and it's like I'm way over here in Bakersfield so hopping on that freeway every weekend. It's not always.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's not ideal.
Speaker 3:So, when I can, I can, um, and I I went this last weekend you know what I mean and, um, I got to link up with a bunch of a bunch of uh, my peoples and it was dope to relink back up with them because we miss each other, yeah. So how could I miss you if I'm here every weekend? Yeah, how could I miss you? So one of my homegirls was like yo, I got a gig next week. I'm like I'm pulling up. I'm pulling up, ma I'm pulling up because every time you know, and then there goes into that, there goes, there's that too. You know what I mean. Like there's people that are more let's just keep it real. There's people that are more special in your life, bro, I'll let you know. You know, I mean, they're not that special in your life.
Speaker 3:Maybe they might be your friend, but they ain't special like, but they're your partner you're like you're how you know you're my dog man hold me down, like you know. He asked you like I gotta pull up right so you know, as much as we want to, we can't show up for everything and we can't show so you can't. So you try to like, pick and choose. You know, I'm saying like my homegirl howled down for me a lot when I was going through it and she always shows up for me, so I'm making it a point to reciprocate that energy and that's what I try to do man?
Speaker 3:I just try to reciprocate energy if I can you know what I mean. And it doesn't mean that you don't want them to be successful bingo right, just cause I'm not resharing your shit or I'm not popping up to your shit doesn't mean I'm hating or I wish bad on you. No, I just got my own thing going too. We don't have time.
Speaker 2:No, we don't have time to hate on people to do any of this. We're busy. We're busy. There's no hate. There's 16-hour days, there's 18-hour days. We're planning, we're we're life, be life, and we're dealing with real life, personal stuff as well, in between those 18 hour work days. We, you know we're doing the best we can, but I wish I could show up every time I ain't. Oh, yeah, yeah, I wish I could be there. Yeah, yeah, all right, ill flow man. Closing thoughts.
Speaker 3:My dude shit man, uh, uh, stay in the gym. Yeah, keep working.
Speaker 2:Yeah, practice, keep working it's that kobe mentality man, that mamba mentality. He was showing up at the gym at 3 am before practice started at 5 am. He did his 3 am gig, did his 5 am, went home, ate breakfast, did whatever, went back to practice again at 12 o'clock, went home, went back to practice at 3 o'clock, went home, went and did his own end workout without nobody at the end. Right, and he talks about how that compounds, right? You know you compound interest. Same thing is how bad do you want it? Yeah, some people.
Speaker 3:Some people want it worse than you know, want it bad than others that you know, you become obsessed. And when you become that level of obsessed, that's how you get to the kobe bryan great, that's how you become mayweather great, because nothing else matters yeah you know, and I, I, you know, I saw that.
Speaker 3:That, uh, you know, I was that guy who was like, because before I was djing, I was the dj, I was the mc, I was the producer, I was doing the graphics, I was audio engineering, I was the dj, I was the mc, I was the producer, I was doing the graphics, I was audio engineering, I was freaking marketing, promoting, I was pressing up the t-shirts. I bought me a t-shirt press. Yeah, I was doing everything, trying to learn everything. But then I saw that interview where, um, you know, mayweather was getting heckled by some sports announcer and he was like look bro, I can't even take you seriously. He's like, why not? He's all because you're a man of many hats, bro. Like what do you mean? He's all man you be reporting on basketball basketball baseball tennis yeah, everything talk to me about boxing, bro.
Speaker 3:Like I am a master at boxing, you're a master of none and a man, a man of many hats jack of all trades, master of none, and I was like yeah, ever since then, I chose djing and I'm not even doing anything else.
Speaker 2:Like it's the bruce lee mentality, man, practice one kick a thousand times, not a thousand kicks one time. Measure nine times, cut once. A lot, a lot of wisdom there, you know, absolutely, yeah, man, I, I guess I I would say. My closing thoughts are is the DJ community, especially here in town, has got to come together. Right, there's got to get all this silliness, all this high school drama, all this other stuff.
Speaker 2:Understand that we're all doing the same thing. Understand that we have love for the music. Understand that we're all in different phases of our lives and we're all at different places in our lives where, hey, we may have to take a 200 gig, right, sometimes, yeah, I don't, I don't know your money situation and I have more respect for you taking a 200 gig to support your family than I do, worried about you undercutting somebody or anything else, and you know those people are just not your people. Then, right, you know some people drive Hyundais, some people drive Ferraris. Right, I don't hate the Hyundai owner, I don't hate the Ferrari owner. You know it's a personal preference and they're not for everybody.
Speaker 2:Right, we're all going to have our different, our different demographs, right, and you know, I just want everybody to chill. You know support, you know love each other, take care of each other and get rid of the silliness man. The silliness is just man. I'm 44 years old man. I don't. You know this, this, this drama and hidden beef and all this other stuff. Man, it's real immature, it's real little kid-like man.
Speaker 2:I hear you. And again, man, we're all at different places. I don't hate the guy that takes $200. I don't hate the guy that takes $500. I do it out of passion, out of love, out of yeah, of course we have to make some money, right? Like you said, we spent spent two thousand dollars on a laptop. We spent another three or four thousand dollars on turntables controllers mixers speakers, man.
Speaker 2:Hey, we're not even talking about fucking speakers, man. And then here's yeah, you know what I'm gonna close out. I'll close out on this. Man, I don't care if you have qscs, I don't care if you have QSCs, I don't care if you have Altos, I don't care if you have Mackies. And you know what Rev one yeah, my old rev one is sitting over there somewhere. It's right here, man, a little black case, right there, it's my rev one. I love that little thing, man, I loved it. Man, johnny and Marcy are the ones that told me to get that one man.
Speaker 2:I was like I was looking at some. My very first I was looking at like Hercules or something like their real budget 200 or something you know like. Don't do it, don't do it. And look, I even say a. You could jump on a Hercules 200 and do just fine too, right, you could jump on the little starlight, the little mini controller. You could DJ on an iPad. You can. You know and that's one of the posts that I did recently is is the dj isn't defined by the equipment. Equipment is defined by the dj. Like, I'm confident that you can get on a starlight controller and do better than man, you should have seen what I had before.
Speaker 3:Man, yeah sure I was. I was busted and disgusted, throwing little uh backyard jams and having every trying to get everybody come over and they all came too.
Speaker 2:They all came, and got on my load, you know, yeah, but yeah, and a lot of these listeners, man, a lot, of, a lot of the people you're playing for, they don't know djing, right, like we're talking.
Speaker 2:They don't know transitions, they don't know beat matching, they don't know effects, they don't know you know bpms and you know, you know people come up to you with a, with a request, and you're in the 110s and it's a 80, right, like, okay, well, I'm going to have to, you know, go back down. I'm going to have to transition out, I'm going to have to fade out, echo down whatever it may reverb, whatever it may be, to make that transition and to do it. And a lot of times they don't even care, man, they want to hear the song, they want to hear the song, they want to hear the song. They don't care how magic you are on the turntables, everything else, man, they don't. Until you go to Rectify, right, until you go to, you know some of these I would call them connoisseur events, right, yeah, where it's DJing, it's all about DJing, it's not?
Speaker 2:about the venue. It's not about the bar, it's not about the out. I don't care what you want to listen to. This is my set, you know, and you're gonna get an education today. Absolutely, I'm gonna. I'm gonna introduce you to some new shit. You're gonna listen to some old shit. You're gonna hear some shit you don't like, right? Um, that's where I'm at with all of it, man. Yes, sir, and I love this podcast, I love you coming out showing love and support.
Speaker 3:Man, dope that you. Uh, you know I'm saying yeah, putting yeah.
Speaker 2:All right. Well, we're at about an hour and a half man, so we're going to wrap it up.
Speaker 1:It's a long one today, brother. It was good, it was good.
Speaker 2:Hate, jealousy, animosity, insecurity all the things that we DJs have to deal with with either ourselves, psychology.