How To Create Your Own Version of Wild Serenity

Ever wondered how your upbringing shapes your relationships and beliefs? Discover the emotional journey behind launching this podcast, where inspiration and gut feelings have guided every step. I share a poignant story of reconnecting with my cousin through a Marco Polo message, prompting a reflection on my LDS upbringing and its impact on family dynamics. You’ll hear about the emotional support from my husband, who is moved to tears by my passion for this work, and how different beliefs can unintentionally create divides among loved ones.

Hear about my own battles with family criticism and the journey to emotional resilience through positive thinking, and journey with me from a victim mentality to empowered self-acceptance, as I share deeply personal anecdotes that illustrate the transformative power of self-love and control over one's destiny.

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Speaker 1: 2:00

I just first have to say thank you. Thank you so much to everyone who has listened, who has followed my journey, who has left a review, who has commented on a post, who has texted me, who has messaged me, who has stopped me on the sidewalk to ask me about my show. I had to really decide what this episode was going to be about and I've waited until, let's see, eight hours before I'm supposed to have it published and ready to drop. And I waited and waited, and waited, because I'm working so hard on getting in tune with my gut and not being like analytical and strategic about stuff, but instead like letting the inspiration come to me and feeling it, and so that means that these days I'm really living kind of on the fly and I'm out of my head and I'm really really trying so hard to focus in on my body and kind of waiting for the idea to come to me. And surprisingly, it's coming to me, it's all coming to me, like even the start of this project, which I shared in my very first episode, which this episode is kind of like a, an afterthought, like a sequel to. That kind of the project started from a place of complete inspiration and gut feeling without knowing what it was going to look like, without knowing what it was going to mean for me and, to be honest, I'm still in creation mode. That way I don't know how this is going to bring me financial gain, and that's okay, because I'm having so much fun doing it. Oh my God, so much fun.

Speaker 1: 3:29

Yesterday a Marco Polo notification had popped up for my cousin who is much older than me and I I like kind of knew her growing up, but she was so much like eight years older than me enough that as a little kid like I have just such very vague memories of that. But later in life, and just especially the last few years, we've reconnected. But she had Marco pulled me yesterday kind of out of the blue, like we'd Marco pull it a little bit and maybe a month or two ago, but I hadn't heard from her in a little while and I knew I wanted to wait until I could really listen to her message with some time and so it's been over 24 hours and finally I was sitting on the porch with my husband and it's like summertime and beautiful here and we're sitting in the shade talking and my toddler's out riding his bike and my girls are kind of flitting around laughing, and I just had this moment of inspiration where I looked at my phone because I was pondering what episode am I going to drop? What am I going to talk about today? There's so many things I want to talk about, but what should it be today? And her notification popped up and I was like I'm going to listen to this Marco Polo and I just have this feeling it's going to give me an idea. So I did, and while I'm listening to it, my cousin is so cool and she's like gushing about how she's listened to my podcast and likes it so much and so proud of me, which is just so amazing to hear. Also, side note, like I'm sitting there playing this Marco Polo and my husband, pat, is sitting in a bench across from me and I look up after listening to her gush and being so complimentary and he's full on crying, because that's what my husband does every time he sees excitement from me and, like I'm feeling so inspired and confident, he starts crying because he loves me so much and gets like so emotional and proud of who I am and loves seeing me on fire. So that was kind of great and funny, but anyways, she's one of those people who's been a huge supporter of mine.

Speaker 1: 5:16

As I was talking in my very first episode about what it was like for me growing up and the dynamic in my family and the impact of the culture I grew up in and the religion I grew up in, she was sharing with me her experience in relation to my family and visiting us in the summers, because she grew up not in the same religion Both my parents were converts to the LDS religion that I grew up in and my cousin and everyone else in my extended family is not. None of them are even like religious. She was telling me her experience and I thought I really need to like reflect on all of this and kind of reflect on all the feedback I got from my first episode and not set the record straight, but I'd love to explain, I guess, a little bit more. She shared with me that when she, when she was growing up, she and her older brother would come like with my grandparents and come stay with us for a week or two in the summers and I was so little that I have like very tiny memories of this, but I do remember them coming and she said eventually they stopped coming and I knew that, but I guess I never put two and two together or even thought to think why did they stop coming?

Speaker 1: 6:18

But she mentioned that for her as a kind of a religious outsider, that it started to become kind of apparently uncomfortable for her and her brother when they would come. You know, they would come to church with us when they were here and you know, she kind of always felt a little bit probably like I did, like she felt uncomfortable because she wanted to wear clothing and, like you know, her cute bikinis that we were not allowed to wear, that we very strongly were advised against. I think she probably was picking up on just kind of the general uptightness that we all felt. And again, my parents were really not like big perpetrators of this, they were not like overly zealous, they were not overly critical, but they were definitely trying to do what the church told them to do and what they thought would be the best for us. She was saying that she felt like maybe we didn't want her to come and maybe we weren't comfortable associating kind of with her and her brother because they weren't our same religion. And I look back and I think there was no intention of that behind me, certainly, or my siblings or my parents, and I think what she was actually picking up on was just that general divide that we all felt in ourselves, based on our upbringing and the culture we were immersed in.

Speaker 1: 7:44

That feeling of you can only be good enough if you're one way and so, kind of by default, it makes it feel like anyone who doesn't think the same way as you, who doesn't live the same way as you and doesn't fit all the external checkboxes, is not as good enough. And you know, shouldn't put your holy vessel in unclean places. Have you heard that saying? I was reflecting on how that's changed for me. How sad it is that once upon a time I really did feel that way. I was trying so desperately to fit into these boxes and be perceived as such a righteous, amazing person that when my oldest child was really little, I was living in small town, spanish Fork, utah Church was everything to me. It was my whole world and I was really running like the patriarchal, good, righteous daughter. Rat race is what I call it.

Speaker 1: 8:35

How good can you be, how good can you prove yourself to be? How modest are you? How spiritual are you? How pious are you? Do you keep yourself away from PG-13 movies that might have an F-bomb in it? Or do you go in the water on Sundays and all these crazy things that we as a culture have put as expectations of if you're good enough or not. And I had said to my sister that I was worried about Allie, my oldest daughter, associating and being friends with people who were not LDS someday, for fear that she would maybe be corrupted or not as happy. And I cannot believe I said something like that. I can't believe I even thought something like that. It's horrible Because I look back now. You know, 10 years later, the most amazing people I know have nothing to do with what religion they are. That's not what makes a person amazing. I hope it's not what makes me amazing, because I flip flopped on my religion. Now, you know, for all the people who I love who are members of the LDS church, for all the people I love who are members of no church, for all the people I love who are members of no church, for all the people I love who are atheists, for all the people I love who want to be members of the LDS church and kind of live in the gray fringes because there's so many things that don't sit right with them, but so many things that they love and they feel conflicted like. Wherever you're at it holds no weight. For me, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 1: 10:05

My first episode I talked a lot about how I felt like I couldn't fit in anywhere. I couldn't fit in with my church friends. I was never good enough for them, and I couldn't fit in with my school friends because it was almost like they thought I was too good for them and I had so many people from my upbringing, church and school who reached out to me and listened to that episode like which again so touching, that they would take the time to do that. I felt bad that I had framed it and phrased it as friends who were doing that to me, because it actually wasn't, it wasn't really them. Right, like I look back and I'm thinking like, just like my cousin thought that she was the problem or we didn't want to be around her because she wasn't good enough for us, none of that was true.

Speaker 1: 10:53

I think again, what she was picking up on was the general feeling of conflict and divide and uncomfortability that we all had with ourselves, and so that made it hard for us to show up and be totally present with other people and same thing. I look back and like, did people say hurtful comments? Yeah, did I have insane church leaders who made me feel, you know, so tiny and like the only thing that mattered was how much my body I showed or not showed. But did I also have amazing people in my life who I have such wonderful memories of at church and at school? Absolutely, and I'm all about taking accountability for our lives and owning our truth and expressing it, and I think that a lot of the problem was because of the circumstances, because of the upbringing, because of my culture, because of, honestly, what was modeled for me and what I had inherited generationally.

Speaker 1: 11:46

It was me, it was the divide was in me, it was me feeling uncomfortable because I wasn't comfortable with myself and I was still floundering, trying to find validation and authority in all these external places, whether it was my friends or my church leaders or my parents. And you know, we know now that we can't do that. We're the only ones who can give ourselves validation and that's the only thing that matters. I think that my friends did the best they could with whatever they were going through and and, honestly, it wasn't even that my friends did anything, the people who I actually were close to and were my friends, they were really nice. It was like people kind of on the fringes who I knew but weren't necessarily my friends, who would make those comments or say things that were uncomfortable for me to hear. So questions for listeners when in your life do you feel unease with relationships or, like you, you don't belong, and why is that those? Those are actually deep questions.

Speaker 1: 12:51

So it used to be for me that I felt a lot of unease being around church members, especially when I left the church. I had like so many major moments of insecurity and fear that people weren't going to like me anymore, that the fun girls in my neighborhood, who were still all LDS, wouldn't want their kids to play with mine, that I'd be judged for that or ridiculed. I was desperately afraid that I was going to be gossiped about, because I know the nature of people and women especially, especially having been one of them who used to judge and gossip. And then I I looked at that and I thought, why am I so worried about this? Why am I so worried about this? Why am I feeling so much unease? It was me. It was me feeling unease with myself and not being able to completely accept where I was at and be okay with it. And it took me several months to really own that about myself and to stop worrying and caring.

Speaker 1: 13:56

I was to the point once I kind of moved through all that where I was like not upset but I was very aware of where I thought people were judging me or criticizing me or noticing my clothing or whatever it was. And then I've moved through that and I just realized that I'm so settled where I'm at and it's been long enough that this is just my life and I haven't changed any of those relationships, like I still go to my neighborhood activities and love all the women around me who are members of the church or not members of the church or a foot in, foot out, that I actually forget that there's like a religious divide between us because it doesn't register, because I'm so at peace with my choices and what I believe it just doesn't matter. And so like, if you look at your relationships in life or places or groups where you feel like you don't belong or it triggers something inside of you, why, what's that actually telling you about yourself? Use that as a point of learning, a point of reflection and I bet you'd be amazed at the changes that will come. And it doesn't mean that you have to keep spending time with people that don't make you feel good or that are like actually judging you and ridiculing you and make you feel uneasy. I don't mean that you shouldn't feel uneasy around people. It's more like what is this unease telling me about myself? What boundaries do I need to set for myself and what changes do I need to make in myself so that, if ever I am circumstantially put around these people, I'm not feeling so uncomfortable and I'm not necessarily leaving them the instance in tears or feeling like, oh, I can never see them again. So the changes will actually come inside of you and then your circumstances will kind of adapt to reflect what you're feeling about yourself. I've actually felt that many, many times with family members that have a difficult time with me and my religious choices I shared in the last part of a workshop that I offer, which is free for you If you want access to it.

Speaker 1: 16:10

I have a link to it in my show notes. It's like a three-part workshop where we talk all about discovering what the truth is for you, owning your voice inside and then having the courage to express it on the outside. And then I did spend the last part of that workshop talking about my personal experiences, particularly related to being able to dress the way I want, confidently, regardless of other people's viewpoints on that. And in that specific one I talked about the backlash I'd gotten, like from family members and, you know, leaving family functions just in tears because the criticism and ostracism that I faced was so great. And none of that has really changed.

Speaker 1: 16:47

From the people who who are perpetuating that I can still see, you know, in their faces, in their body language, like how uncomfortable I make them and honestly, it's not even actually about how I dress. Like I can be in, you know, full blown jeans and a big sweatshirt and I can still feel how uncomfortable they are around me. And whereas before it used to really trigger me and upset me, I can be in, you know, full-blown jeans and a big sweatshirt and I can still feel how uncomfortable they are around me and whereas before it used to really trigger me and upset me and leave me feeling very upset, now I'm kind of like okay, and it just kind of like bounces off of me because of the changes I've been able to make in myself because of how much inner work I've done, and a lot of that is because I took a lot of responsibility in making the changes for my own life. You know there's a lot of freedom in knowing your part in things. So I'm a big believer in the law of attraction, like big believer Pat and I my husband we were kind of introduced to this concept six years ago. For those of you who don't know what the law of attraction is, you should Google it and get a lot more information out there than I'm going to be able to regurgitate for you. But basically it's the concept that we attract. What we put out has nothing to do with good or bad, has nothing to do with righteousness or wickedness, has nothing to do with good or bad, has nothing to do with righteousness or wickedness, has nothing to do with deserving, none of that. It's as simple as whatever thought you put out into the universe is what you will get back, and the universe doesn't speak in negative. So if you're saying I want money, I want money, I want money, I want money, I want money, I want money, I want money, and you're saying it because you're thinking I have no money and I really want more, but I have no money and I need money for this. I need money for that, can you? Can you like hear and feel the tone of that, the emotion behind it? What you're actually saying to the universe is I don't have any money and I need more. I don't have any money and I want more. I don't have any money and I'm upset about it, so I need more. I don't have any money and I feel a lack. I don't have any money and that's what the universe is hearing. And so if that's what you're putting out is I don't have any money, that's what you're going to get back, you're not going to have any money.

Speaker 1: 19:39

First is someone who says I want so much money so I can buy all these really cool things. I love the idea of going on a vacation with my family. I am so excited to check my Wells Fargo checking account and see a hundred grand in there every day. I am so excited about all the different things I could do with this money. It is so fun to have so much money. I am so excited about all the different things I could do with this money. It is so fun to have so much money. I'm so grateful that my bank account right now has $300 in it because I can go buy dinner for my family tonight. I am so grateful for all the things that all this money has brought me.

Speaker 1: 20:12

Do you hear the difference? What you're actually saying to the universe there is I have some money and I can't wait to have more of it because it does so many great things for me. Can you feel the difference? So that's basically what the law of attraction is, but please Google it, because you need much more information. It's it's more complicated than that and I don't know that. Using money is a great example of that, because people will start getting really angry and defensive and saying, oh no, but I can't have this much money because my job only pays me this and I have this many bills, and they'll come up with all the, all the reasons why, which you know, validation in that. However, I encourage you to please Google and also, if you're looking for, like more specific gurus, I actually have a resource and that's free, also linked in the show notes where you can download like a PDF that has all the different people I love that I've learned from, and on that sheet are things like Jerry and Esther Hicks. So the Abraham Hicks books. That's where Pat and I learned about the law of attraction. They explain things so much better and I really really suggest everyone reading about those. There's also people like Gabby Bernstein, deepak Chopra, wayne Dyer. Those are some of the huge names, but look up any of those people and read about this concept. It's very powerful.

Speaker 1: 21:24

So a lot of people will hear this concept and they start getting really angry about it. It triggers so much defensiveness in them and they start arguing with why that can't possibly be real. So if you tell someone, according to the law of attraction, you create everything about your reality. Again, it's not based on you deserving something. It's not based on goodness or wickedness. It's not even based on wrong or right None of that. It's based on creator co-creator. You are your own creator and everyone around you is co-creating at the same time and we actually have the power to change our lives, to make our lives what we want it to be. If you apply that to relationships, if you apply it to where you are right now, it's at one time, so incredibly freeing and liberating to give you all that control and know that well, I can change anything because I'm solely in charge of my experience. And then here's why people get defensive and they get so mad is because it's so terrifying. It's so terrifying, it's so much responsibility it feels, or can feel, overwhelming, it can feel daunting and honestly, I felt all those things. And so people will start arguing with me or you and start saying things like no, no, no, I was just born into shitty circumstances. No, no, no, like, none of this is my fault. This person did that and this person did that and my parents did this, and she said this and I was raised this way and I like, and all that is true.

Speaker 1: 23:03

But do you feel the difference in emotion between those two thoughts? One is a victim mentality it's giving all your power and all your control away to another person. And one is a very powerful feeling. It might give you butterflies, but it's powerful, is a very powerful feeling. It might give you butterflies, but it's powerful. Your emotions are always such a good tool to look at and help you analyze what's true and what feels right.

Speaker 1: 23:28

The idea of being a victim where you give all your power away. Think about that thought. I can't help it, I can't change anything because of so-and-so or because of this. If you think that thought, how does that feel? It feels insanely shitty, so crappy. No one wants to feel that way. No one wants to be a victim. People just generally become one because it seems easier than taking responsibility or accountability for what you actually want to do and what you want to change. So now sit with a thought I'm in full control, I can change my reality. My life is mine to make it. And how does that feel in your body? Like, release it and think about it. Because that thought is so radically different from the victim one.

Speaker 1: 24:12

And if you start getting in tune with your body, paying attention to where tension lies in your body the first one being a victim you might feel like a tightening in your chest. You might feel your shoulders tense up. You might even feel yourself like kind of contracting and getting smaller. It's almost like bracing yourself for this bludgeon of life that's going to come at you. You probably don't even know you're doing it. None of that is good, none of that is healthy or happy feeling. But the thought I'm in full control of my reality, you'll notice like an opening. You'll notice that maybe you kind of start to sit up straighter and you let your shoulders kind of broaden and relax, your breathing might slow down because it's so empowering, and so that's such a good indication of what you actually believe. Pay attention to what your body is feeling.

Speaker 1: 25:04

If you listen to my first episode, I wasn't in my body at all. We were not taught to be in our bodies. We were actually taught to ignore what was the feeling in our bodies, which is funny because in the church that I grew up in they talk so much about paying attention to the Holy Spirit and you're supposed to kind of pay attention to how it feels. But then there's like a weird conundrum because at the same time, if your body is telling you no to certain things that go against what the prophet or the doctrine say, we're supposed to ignore that. So you can see how there's such disconnect there, and that's what it was for me. You know, I actually listened to my first episode back and I kind of felt like, oh, my poor parents. I hope they didn't think I was like raking them across the coals or criticizing all of their efforts, because my parents were amazing and I think a lot of people have amazing parents and yet we all still struggle with what was modeled for us and generational trauma and all the things that they were working through that they weren't really aware of and how that affected us.

Speaker 1: 26:08

I feel like my parents did so good and did the absolute best they could. My dad was so committed, like so committed. He worked so many hours a week trying to provide for our family and make a great living and he did. And he also managed to like coach all of our soccer games and be at all of my cross country meets and come to every play and cry when I would play the piano because he was so proud of me and take me and my sister on father-daughter camping trips every summer and take our family on vacation and plan time Like they were committed.

Speaker 1: 26:39

And my mom, you know, she worked tirelessly to please us, kind of at the expense of herself. It was all about you know, what could she do for us kids? And we were not easy kids. Oh my gosh, we were the hardest kids, me and my brother specifically. We were really really terrible kids and much later in life I sit and I talk to my mom and we reflect on things that happened or just kind of the general dynamic in our family at the time of my upbringing and both of us look back and we're like, why did we do things like that? What were we thinking? And it's been really cool to be able to kind of air, literally air experiences, feelings I had, and to be able to share that with my parents and with my family and my friends around me and I hope that it's been inspiring to them and it's been very healing actually.

Speaker 1: 27:31

And I noticed that I keep thinking I'm I'm evolving so fast and I've really stepped into who I am. And then occasionally I'll hit kind of a roadblock and I'll feel another deep rooted onion layer kind of bubble up in me and it's another layer that I have to peel back and there's more under there. And then I have to work through the trauma. But the thing is I'm getting so much better at working through it. I'm getting so much better at self-love and self-acceptance. Even simple things Like I was sitting on my porch, I was meditating and I was thinking about how grateful I am to be able to be outside this time of year and breathe fresh air every morning and feel the sunshine on me and the breeze.

Speaker 1: 28:12

And I look down and I'm like, you know, I'm sitting down, so my thighs are like squished out, and my legs they're not as toned as they used to be, because I took a big long pause from weightlifting and exercise actually in general, and so I'm a little softer these days. The first thing I noticed when I looked down was on my legs that were all squished out. I was wearing like short pajama, shorts, and I have so many stretch marks on my inner thighs from pregnancy, so many stretch marks, and they're very noticeable and they're even a little darker. They're not like. A lot of stretch marks will get white and lighten up and you can just kind of see like the texture of your skin. But mine are still kind of dark and there's so many of them and for the first time I actually looked down at them and I like ran my finger across the feel of them and I liked it.

Speaker 1: 29:00

It didn't bring up any negative emotion. It didn't bring up any oh, I wish they would just go away. It didn't bring up any. I really need to be weightlifting again? None of that. It was like any. I really need to be weightlifting again. None of that. It was like, oh, I have these stretch marks and I actually I'm kind of liking feeling them on my skin. They're kind of cool Right and that was such a big moment for me and I think part of the the way I've been able to get there is by owning my stuff and being really real about it. You know, I had a tummy tuck almost two years ago and got rid of the extra giant layer of fanny packs extra skin I had from childbearing. They sewed my ab muscles back together and took off all that extra skin and move my belly button. It was amazing. It was insane. I can do a whole episode on that process one day if you want me to. Amazing, it was insane. I can do a whole episode on that process one day if you want me to. It was crazy.

Speaker 1: 29:58

But I met someone at a podcast summit I was at and I was talking about my flat stomach, which I love, and this girl who I was talking to. I could see her tensing and getting kind of uncomfortable. Um, cause we were talking about like the different clothing we'd like to wear and I hear a lot of women say I can never wear that because of my stomach and I'm like I used to think that. I used to think that way and I'm like, girl, if you've got stretch marks. It's fine to show them. But I pulled out my I kind of giggled and I was like, oh honey, I have not, like I've not always looked like this. Like I pulled out my phone and showed her my before and after shots and she almost started crying and she was like I'm so glad you showed me that, because my stomach looks like that and there's nothing I can do about it. And I could see that she felt like all the shame over it. Oh, and that just was heartbreaking. I'm like I'm an open book about everything I've done, like, yeah, I had surgery. It's not like my flat stomach is. I wasn't born this way. And then she remarked several hours later, she just kind of leaned over and she was like I'm so glad that you showed me that picture. I was like, oh, this girl just needs to be seen. She needs to know that, like, other people are in it with her and that it's okay. It's like how do we get to the point where we love everything about ourselves?

Speaker 1: 31:07

Before I had my tummy tuck, I actually waited quite a while get a handle on my emotions about my body, because I didn't want to be chasing this endless dream, because I knew that if I wasn't in a good place with my body at the time of my surgery, that having the surgery wouldn't make a difference, and I would still be looking in the mirror and it might not be my stomach that day that I was upset over, but it'd be something else. I don't know my big arms or whatever it would be and I didn't want to do that, and so I waited until I was really okay with where I was at and then I was like, ah, I'm so excited to have all this extra skin cut off. I really am. I'm not in denial about that. It was so awesome.

Speaker 1: 31:42

So this episode has been all over the place. It's like a stream of consciousness thought I've had today, but I wanted to thank all my listeners. I also really wanted to get your feedback on what you'd like to hear about. I like I was going through the gamut of what I should talk about. I'm like do I talk about my affair? Do I talk about my divorce? Do I talk about my remarriage? Do I talk about blending families? Do I talk about sex, which I'm going to talk about? Not this episode, but the next episode. I interviewed this really cool girl who's a sex and intimacy coach. We had a really awesome conversation.

Speaker 1: 32:15

The church Do I talk about me leaving my religion? Do I talk about raising kids? Talk more about getting comfortable and wearing the clothing I want to, and facing judgment and ridicule, and none of that was coming to me and I really did feel like I wanted to know, maybe, what my listeners would want to hear about from my personal life. Usually the format of the show will be like three episodes in a row of interviewing guests and then, at least once a month, hearing just from me about my personal experiences and things, and so, if you feel so inclined, I am going to have a Google form attached to the show notes here and if you wouldn't mind filling out what you'd like to hear about most, I would. I will look at all of it. You can leave comments, you can just check the boxes of what you'd like to listen to and I will take all of that, and I'd love to like put an episode out answering questions. I also know that I've mentioned a few things I have for you here, all linked in the show notes, but once again, I do have two free resources. You can also find them on my website, marenswensoncom, but you can also find the link in my show notes if you want access to the three-day workshop I did on owning your truth inside and out.

Speaker 1: 33:19

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Speaker 1: 33:53

So far I've dropped kind of the inspiration, for this show was my first episode. Then I interviewed this really cool girl named Tiffany. We talked all about her experience with God, her overcoming addiction 20 years of addiction and her and developing her, her spirituality, very powerful. And then I interviewed a really cool friend of mine named Wes Christensen who has a very different approach. He's like a masculine fatherhood coach and he is so grounded and we talked all about plant medicine, showing up and like owning yourself and working on yourself so that you can leave a lasting legacy and be the right type of parent or person in a relationship you want to be. And then I also record an episode and dropped it with my awesome friend, rachel Jones, who so inspiring. She details her holistic journey. We talk all about really being able to sit with yourself and love yourself and the difference between feeling lonely because loneliness you can still feel when you're around people and so meeting that loneliness from inside and getting rid of it. I have so many more episodes coming up. I've recorded a ton. I'm so excited about this. Thank you so much for being on this journey with me.

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