Ep2 - What version of the Bible do you read?

Have you ever wondered how the Bible's words can vary so much between translations? On today's episode of Unfiltered Christian, Cece and Shay take you on a personal journey through their favorite Bible translations. Cece opens up about her deep-rooted connection with the King James Version (KJV) and New King James Version (NKJV), sharing how prayer and fasting enrich her spiritual understanding of these texts. She reveals how she uses the NKJV to clarify specific words while staying true to the traditional authenticity of the KJV. Shay discusses her preference for the New Living Translation (NLT), noting its accessibility and readability, especially crucial given her dyslexia and visual impairment.

Our discussion transitions into how we navigate and interpret different Bible versions. We dive into the changes noticed in the Our Father prayer at the Church of England and reflect on how these modifications affect our spiritual journeys. The episode revisits the familiarity of the KJV from our childhoods and the practical challenges of transitioning to modern translations like the NKJV and NLT. We emphasize the significance of returning to physical Bibles amid the convenience of technological aids and the importance of setting aside intentional time for scripture study amidst the numerous versions available today.

To wrap up, we compare the Ten Commandments across the KJV and NLT, exploring how variations in wording influence our understanding. We delve into specific passages from Exodus 20, discussing how different translations present the commandments and what personal preferences come into play when studying these texts. Our conversation concludes with a heartfelt prayer, inviting listeners to join us in gratitude and reflection. We ask for guidance from the Holy Spirit to help us better understand and value scripture, emphasizing the importance of the Ten Commandments in our spiritual lives. Join us for this enriching episode, and let’s journey together through the profound world of Bible translations.

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:01

Welcome to Unfiltered Christian with Cece and Shea.

Speaker 2: 0:05

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Where we'll be holding nothing back.

Speaker 2: 0:18

Hey guys, good morning, good afternoon, good evening, depending on where you're joining us from today. Welcome to the show.

Speaker 1: 0:28

I'm Shay, I'm Cece.

Speaker 2: 0:33

And we're ready to get back into another episode. Episode two. Oh my gosh, we're on episode two already.

Speaker 1: 0:43

Wow, time's flying oh my gosh, one episode two already. Wow, time's flying. I know we've been continents as well.

Speaker 2: 0:53

We've been in um asia, we've been in japan, north america, wow, okay, okay, so well. Thank you to all of you guys who's been supporting and listening, and we pray it's been a blessing for you so far. Um, yeah, so we're going to get right into episode two. So, cc, what version of the bible do you use?

Speaker 1: 1:18

um, I would say that I use king james and the New King James Version.

Speaker 2: 1:29

So break down each version for those who might not know what those are.

Speaker 1: 1:37

So for me, to me, I should say the King James Version is the original, it's the organic, it's the. Can I say it's the original, it's the original that is written in English, let's put it that way perfect. So that was the King James version. That's the only book that I mess with, because it is his word, it's not being tampered with to a certain degree. And then the new King James version is King James' sister or brother. It just takes out the die and the baguette and stuff like that. Um, so those are the only two that I read. However, when I first joined the church, I didn't understand the King James version. Um, and I start, I had a youth bible, which is basically broken down in English, but I didn't like it.

Speaker 1: 2:50

I didn't like it at all um, even though it was, it was easy to understand. But growing up, everybody on my mum's side of family had a King James version. And then when I used to look at the King James version and the youth version, it was different or some text was missing. So I just started to pray to the Lord and I fasted that I would understand the King James version and I just kept reading and reading and reading until I got it. And the only reason why I go to the New King James Version sometimes is because there'll be certain words, like sailor or I'm trying to think of another word when it will just say what it is in English, but it doesn't change the sentence, if that makes sense. It will just say what it is in English, but it doesn't change the sentence.

Speaker 2: 3:49

If that makes sense it will just say what it is in English. What about yourself? Okay, wow, that's really insightful. Um, so I use the new living translation. Um, I always have used that since I restarted my journey.

Speaker 2: 4:11

When I first started my journey, I did try the New King James version because that's the bible I bought. I felt like it was wrong to have any other version because I didn't want to be misreading anything. So it was just like I did want another version because I knew I didn't understand new King James Version. But I bought it because I felt like that was the correct Bible to have. But I don't regret it because it is good to have it and I really invested in that Bible because I got it in large print.

Speaker 2: 4:47

With being visually impaired, um, so I really do love that bible, um, and I feel like I do definitely understand that now a little bit better than I did seven years ago. Um, but when I did start my journey back with with elohim seven years ago, I I was watching some videos because I was trying to work out how to find my own way with him for myself, with having my own relationship with him, and I was trying to build like a everyday relationship with him, with praying in the morning and starting my day with him. So I came across videos on YouTube and I found one person that talked about reading the New Living Translation and I thought, oh, my gosh, wow, okay, let me look this up. But I went on the Bible app and I found it and my mind was so blown because I felt like I could finally understand.

Speaker 1: 5:42

God's word.

Speaker 2: 5:44

Yeah, and it just it blew my mind and with also being dyslexic, I struggled with grasping what it was saying as well in the New Living sorry, in the New King James Version as well, and it caused a lot of frustration for me. So when I found that version it completely took away that frustration, that anxiety, and I completely felt like I was connecting with Elohim more because finally I can understand what he's trying to say to me yeah um, and I still use that version up to this day.

Speaker 2: 6:17

In honesty, um, I do find that it does take away from certain I guess. What is it? What do I want to say about it? It does take away from the maybe like the seriousness or the power of some things, so it helps you to understand it, but it does take away from the power or certain wording or I can't find the word. But yeah, hopefully you get where I'm coming from. So I do need to go back to looking at different versions when I'm reading something and not just stay on the New Living Translation. That's what I will say. Even though it helps you to understand, I feel like it is very important to go back to the New King James or King James Version to really grasp exactly what it's saying, because sometimes I feel like some of the passion or the beauty of the Bible is kind of removed sometimes from the New Living Translation, is kind of removed sometimes from the New Living Translation. So I do need to stop being lazy and start going back to actually just comparing versions, because it is important, it's very important.

Speaker 1: 7:39

So, yeah, it's funny that you say that about the power stuff, because even the other day I don't know what because, bear in mind for people that don't know, there's many different versions of the Bible. There's so many versions and they're abbreviated, so instead of her saying New International Version, it would be like the NIV and you've got the clear word.

Speaker 1: 8:04

There's so many, yeah nlt is mine yeah, um, but even the other day I was reading something. I can't even remember what I was reading and um, it was, they didn't have the king james version and it was frustrating me because I'm like what does this mean? Because it wasn't it felt like I was just reading it for myself. It wasn't like the Lord's, it wasn't the Lord's word. So I was struggling that I had to go on Google and look it up, because I was thinking that I know this is more powerful than this, like this just seems so you know mediocre yes, that's the word.

Speaker 2: 8:48

That is the word it does downplay. This other version does downplay um, the power of what that, even that specific um verse you know like, for example, I think there's certain verses that I know the King James Version of because it's recited more.

Speaker 1: 9:07

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 9:08

If that makes sense, like the same with the Lord's Prayer or For God, so Loved the World. John 3.16. That version you know. Everyone knows that. I'm sure that's the King James Version that most people know. They don't actually know the other versions. But that's quite interesting that you say that you were frustrated and you wanted the King James Version. That's really powerful. It shows how much Elohim has moved in you. Because I would be the opposite. I'd be reading the King James Version and I'd feel frustrated because I'm like I don't get it. So I have to go back to the New Living um translation, the NLT version. But I've been feeling the Holy Spirit saying to me to just start picking up my Bible again, the physical Bible, and start reading that chapter in that version um, because I feel like I get more drawn into the word.

Speaker 1: 10:04

What does your version says in john 3, 16 uh, let me see, so we can give people example so in king james version it says for god so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that whoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life. And in the New King James Version it says for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life. So it basically says the same thing, because there's no words. That is difficult to understand.

Speaker 2: 10:43

Right, yeah, so that sounds very, very similar, but let me see what mine says. The one thing whilst I'm looking for it, the one thing I will say that I'm a bit sceptical about with these new versions is that we have to be so, so, so careful for the fact of what's been happening with the new international version. I don't know if you've heard about this. Okay, so I found my version. I'll go back to that in a second. Let me read it. It says God loved the world. He gave his one and only son so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life. So I guess it doesn't give you the same power yeah simplifies it yeah

Speaker 1: 11:42

but doesn't give you the same power and I think that's that is what I struggle with. That's where my frustration comes from, because I'm like what does this, what, what does it actually say?

Speaker 2: 11:56

because I'm so used to you don't feel like it says what it's meant to say yeah if that makes sense yeah, okay.

Speaker 1: 12:03

So I think if I was meant to come to I don't know, say if I'm reading a story in the bible like I don't know, like Noah um, and I didn't understand it because there's so many jargons going on, I will go to. Well, I used to go to I can't even remember what version. I think it was the Youth Bible and I don't even know.

Speaker 1: 12:35

I don't have my Youth Bible here with me, but I don't know what version of the Youth Bible it is, but I would go to it just to read the story so I can understand the story. But I wouldn't to it just to read the story, so I can understand the story, but I wouldn't rely on it, that's how I would do it.

Speaker 1: 12:54

I was just playing about and looking for another example where you could see the difference between the King James Version and the New King James Version. So if I and then so she could read it for me that what are you reading? The NLT, nlt? Yeah, if you go to Proverbs 6, verses 1.

Speaker 2: 13:20

Verses 1, let's see Mm-hmm versus one. You can't see.

Speaker 1: 13:26

So in the King James Version it says my son, if thou be surety for thy friend, if thou has stricken thy hand with a stranger. And then the New King James Version says my son, if you become surety for your friend, if we have shaken hands in pledge for a stranger, so like it will break down, that stricken means shaken, shaken. So it will just change that word to for you to understand.

Speaker 2: 13:59

And then in the in the NLT version, so it says my child, if you have put up security for a friend's debt or agreed to guarantee the debt of a stranger and it has, I don't even know what that means. You know, when it has like a really long dash at the end and trying to work out what that means, like does it mean they remove something?

Speaker 2: 14:27

I think I need to actually look into that, of what that means, because sometimes I see that a lot where they've put that in there for a reason, but I'm not sure why. I think I need to google why they do that, because I feel like it's they've done something to it, so that's why they put that in there.

Speaker 1: 14:48

Like a really long dash.

Speaker 2: 14:49

I feel like there's a reason why they put it in there. But back to what I was saying about the new international version, because I see that a lot of people compare that one use it as a comparison. Instead of the nlt they use the niv. But from what I've seen, come up now with the fact that the nit niv sorry version has been bought and so scripture has been removed, um, and now it makes me I'm struggling because the NLT. I don't use the NIV, I use the NLT. But I am now worried that what I'm reading am I reading everything that's meant to be in there? But it's difficult because it's what I understand.

Speaker 1: 15:40

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 15:43

But after hearing about that, I just thought wow that.

Speaker 1: 15:46

I just thought wow, that is just wow. I think it's always been there, but it's just. I think they've made it known because maybe over 10 years ago, when people used to be reading like I'm just going to make up a random verse here, so don't quote me like, say, somebody said like psalms, like 89, verses 6 to 11, I think the niv would have like two chapters missing because they've shortened it, so they don't need those others, the other verses yeah, with that I get.

Speaker 1: 16:25

But then what I saw recently that I get because they've condensed it, right but it's wrong because you're because, you know, thinking like if I, if the king james and the new king james is going to all the way to verse 11, and then yours is only going to one to five, but then the pastor or wherever you're going, is saying, then you're gonna, you're gonna be conflicting in yourself, and I feel like this is how the enemy comes in and where many will be deceived because you could be missing out gems that you need because I feel like there's nothing wrong with other versions of the bible.

Speaker 1: 17:05

However, I think you should compare it to the original, because you could be missing out on stuff. Yeah that's true, that's very true, that is very true because soon we won't even have them, so we won't even have bibles, the way how things are going on. This is why it's important to remember, remember our verses and as you were saying like um whatever bible you you have.

Speaker 1: 17:32

I'm not knocking it, but I'm just saying shane made a good point that most verses that are memorable, um the lord is thy shepherd. All of those is from the james version. Nothing is um even and you know when it started. It all started when I went to church of england church, when they changed our father prayer. I don't. I was thinking hold on a second. Was this like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't go like that.

Speaker 2: 18:02

Yeah, I noticed it recently. They have changed it Because it's like Our Father in.

Speaker 1: 18:06

Heaven. Yes, yeah, and it sounds so weird.

Speaker 2: 18:12

It sounds weird. Yeah, there's no die. They removed the die as well in it, I've noticed.

Speaker 1: 18:20

They removed a lot of stuff.

Speaker 2: 18:22

Yeah, it just sounds weird. It just sounds weird, yeah, but to be honest, I only I don't know. I think that's why I was great about doing this podcast, because I don't really know. I haven't really noticed certain things until going through this discussion, because I've never really spoken about this before. But it's until today that I realised that. Yeah, every things, until going through this discussion, because I've never really spoken about this before, but it's until today that I realized that, yeah, every verse that we can remember is of the King James version. That's what we've learned, that's what we've been taught, that's what we've picked up from going to church as a child. Anything that was memorable was always in the King James Version. So it shows that it's possible. But, like you said, if you're trying to dissect a story and you are struggling to get through it with those you know the original version, then you can take it to another version. But you know, at least you've compared right, because I've been reading. It wasn't easy.

Speaker 1: 19:19

I think it took me like whole, like about a year. I'm not saying that, like I just prayed and I just understood the King James version.

Speaker 2: 19:28

No, I was thinking cause you made it sound so easy?

Speaker 1: 19:31

No, but I just continued praying Cause I in my head, I was thinking it's you know things? That is not of God. I learn right, I can understand right, I can sing right, I can do everything that I'm not meant to do or don't understand I can do it. So what is? Yes, it's frustrating, yes, but anything in life, nothing comes easy. The the narrow path is.

Speaker 1: 20:01

It's not easy yeah, so I think for me, practice made perfect and that's why, again, as you can see, like with my phone, um, I have the bible on my phone where I can have two bibles open at one time. So I would have the the new King james, where the king james version at the top and the new king james versions at the bottom, but I can also switch to any other version that I want to.

Speaker 1: 20:30

So even if it comes to um, sometimes it has words that I don't understand um, and instead of copying and pasting and going to google, I might just switch to another version just to see what it's saying. But I will just jump straight back. But you know, what I took notice the other day is um, I need to go back to my physical bible. Um, I start carrying it back to church yeah, that's what I was just saying.

Speaker 2: 20:59

Oh gosh, it's the weight of it boy. It never used to be an issue like today.

Speaker 1: 21:05

I was um scrolling through my bible. Uh, I was thinking where is this? I'm going to the index page. Oh, I know, I know I used to just flip through my bible. Yeah, yeah, where is this?

Speaker 2: 21:20

yeah that's true. That's true. That is true. That's the one thing I will say. Even though I did struggle with reading my bible, I did. I got so good, like good, um well for me what I called good, because before I was always in the index page, but I did get to the point where I remembered what book was after what book and I was able to go there and um, now, boy, might be a little bit of a struggle now, but um, definitely might be a bit of a struggle it's definitely a struggle for me yeah, I don't, I don't do it, I don't.

Speaker 2: 21:52

I literally I haven't, when I think about it, like think I haven't touched my physical bible in months? I don't think I've actually, um, but you know what? Like the bible says, confess your sins. Right, I'll honestly say why. I think it's time, because I know that I won't have the time to compare the versions, and that's what it is. In that moment that I'm really into that thing, it's the time I need to make the time because your bible is new King James version your physical bible okay, yeah, but I'm fine with that.

Speaker 2: 22:29

I'm not ready for the King James version. I'm not there.

Speaker 1: 22:31

No, no, no, I'm just no, because when you were talking about comparing, I now get what you mean, because you're on your phone and NLT.

Speaker 2: 22:38

NLT. Yeah, and I would have to do that flipping back and forth. But I love what you said about your half and half of your phone. I need to work out how I can do that, because I feel like when you said that, my mind just felt so excited. I was like, yes, that's what I need. I need it to be half and half on my phone. So then I'll start with reading the New King James and if I feel like I'm struggling, then at least I've got the other version right underneath that.

Speaker 2: 23:02

I'm comfortable with, and then I can develop that comfortability again with the new King James version. But I did read it a few months ago and I actually understood it. I just think I'm just being lazy and I need to give myself a chance.

Speaker 1: 23:16

The new King James is not that hard, but and I'm going to say this with a pinch of salt don't shoot me. I feel like the enemy knows that his time is up. And I've never seen so many different versions of Bibles in my life. It's true I remember when I was in school we had the Youth Bible, the King James Bible and then they had that little red Bible. I don't know if you ever got one like the New Testaments or something. When people were going around giving these little books, yeah, the little.

Speaker 1: 23:49

Yeah, the little easy word, but now there is. So when I open the Bible app on my phone and I see how many versions there are, i'm'm like mercy. And this is where there's so many, there's so much confusion, because I'm sure, like if he was meant to read something and it says like thou shalt maybe even the Ten Commandments. That's what I was saying.

Speaker 2: 24:16

The Ten Commandments, yeah.

Speaker 1: 24:18

The Ten Commandments in one version might say like thou shalt not, I don't know, Trying to think Because I don't want to alter the word.

Speaker 2: 24:30

Yeah, you could say thou shalt not steal. Does it say steal? Does it use the word steal? Oh my gosh, no, let me not even Hang on. Thou shalt not steal, is that even it? That might not even Hang on. Thou shalt not steal, is that even it? That might not even be it.

Speaker 1: 24:45

Do you guys know?

Speaker 2: 24:46

your.

Speaker 1: 24:46

Ten Commandments. Oh my gosh, what number is thou shalt not steal?

Speaker 2: 24:56

That's even a good one, but you know what? It's not numbered in the Bible, isn't it? So did man number it?

Speaker 1: 25:02

I think it's numbered in the bible, isn't it? So did we did, man number it um I think it's numbered in the bible because it starts off with number one, like in terms of like thou shall not you know, why am I struggling to find it?

Speaker 2: 25:16

do I actually know what, wow that's? You see, this is bad. I don't even know what book it's in.

Speaker 1: 25:23

Oh, the commandments, yeah, I think it's depending, is it Matthew? I think it's depending in it's depending what commandments you're talking about, Even though I know you're talking about the Ten Commandments. But there was a lot of commandments where people was telling him or asking him different stuff.

Speaker 2: 25:43

Yeah, I think that's why my app can't find it, because it's it's. It's taking me to parts that says command and all these different things. It's not actually taking to me what to what I've actually asked for, um, but yeah, ah, lost my train of thought, but it's dangerous. Like you said, the enemy knows his time is up and we need to do better. I need to do better, definitely need to do better. It's important that we're not just receiving the word but receiving the correct word. And, yeah, it is very important because, like even when I've been looking at the, the children's version, I think my app has international children's bible yeah so is that the same as your youth bible, or is that just a?

Speaker 1: 26:39

no, I think the bible is more basic oh, fair enough, okay, oh yeah, then you've got a youth bible, or is that just a no?

Speaker 2: 26:42

I think the bible is more basic oh, fair enough, okay, oh yeah, then you've got a youth bible. Okay, fair enough, yeah, okay, cool. So I've been reading that sometimes uh, not for myself, but for the kids and stuff, uh, just to break it down I feel like there's nothing wrong with that, um, when it comes to children's bibles, because they need to understand, yeah, definitely and same with like the youth, the youth bible.

Speaker 1: 27:10

It'll be interesting to actually even see what um this is bugging me.

Speaker 2: 27:20

I definitely need to work out, make sure I know my Ten Commandments like where they are, Because this is not good.

Speaker 1: 27:29

They even got a new American Standard Bible as well.

Speaker 2: 27:33

Oh, wow.

Speaker 1: 27:33

Interesting yeah all these versions.

Speaker 2: 27:35

That's the one thing I will say. I haven't dabbled with versions. I haven't dabbled. I've found NLT and I've stuck to NLT and that's it. And then I've gone with like new King James version and that's it. That's mainly the only two versions I've ever really used in all of my journey. Completely, I think I've looked at King James version my head's starting to spin, but definitely I've only stayed with those versions.

Speaker 2: 28:06

Um, but also I think it's good to work on what the holy spirit is moving you with as well, um, because sometimes that could be the the thing you know like. Like I said, I feel like the holy spirit is prompting me to go back to looking at my new king james version, more um, and it's important that we listen and you, you know you think why, right, but I mean, once god says it, why are we disobeying um? And that's one thing I'm trying to pray about more um, to be more obedient to what he's telling me to do, and not just that's a prayer. I prayed today, actually to be obedient to what he's telling me to do and not what I want, how to describe it, not what I want to answer to, basically for myself, for my own benefits.

Speaker 2: 29:03

Like if he's telling me to do something or he's guiding me to do something for my benefit, like for like, not to pick and choose, basically. You know, like oh yeah, I'll do that because I feel like I can do that, or you know. But to be obedient to everything, and I think that it's just seeing this as important and not seeing it as just like oh well, you know, just not putting it aside.

Speaker 2: 29:27

So that's what I love. That's been highlighted to me today, the importance of not just receiving the word, like I said, but receiving the correct word. We want to be feeding our spirit with the right things, and that comes with his word too, you know that's very very important for us.

Speaker 1: 29:49

Yeah, I'm here reading through the Ten Commandments in the different versions, in the King James Version and the New King James Version. What book is it? Is it Luke, luke?

Speaker 2: 30:02

no, it's in exodus 20 oh my gosh, it's exodus, would you believe? Of course, old testament. See, I know some people are listening to this right now thinking this girl don't know her bible. Oh my gosh, guys, it's just, it's not good. Found it now. Exodus 20 this is what I mean by it's not numbered in that sense because the first commandment is in. So Exodus 20, verses 3 is that where it starts for yours? So Exodus 20, verses 3 Is that where it starts for yours, right? So let me start straight from verse 3. So you must not have Any other God but me. You must not make For yourself, or just God.

Speaker 1: 31:01

It or just.

Speaker 2: 31:02

God, it just says God.

Speaker 1: 31:05

Okay.

Speaker 2: 31:09

You know what I don't like? Actually, the G in God is not capital. Yeah, I know that means something, right.

Speaker 1: 31:17

Because lowercase Gs are the pagan gods, so it doesn't make sense mercy.

Speaker 2: 31:26

Oh my gosh, I just noticed that. Okay, okay, so that, okay, so that makes sense, okay, yeah so it would say and god so that's correct. Right, that is a lowercase yeah okay, cool, got that right. Okay, so that's what I was thinking. So, now that I know that, there's education for me, so um second commandment um, you must not make for yourself an idol of any kind or any image of anything in the heavens or on the earth, or in the sea. Oh wow, hmm, what does that say for you?

Speaker 1: 32:07

you're reading number four.

Speaker 2: 32:10

You shall not make for yourself a carved image, any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth that's the reason why I like this version, um, because most of the time I would say majority of the time from what I've been reading it will still give you what that says, but just a simplified version. So it was still used, like it still said the heavens, the earth and the sea, but it just you said water, right, not the sea.

Speaker 1: 32:39

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 32:43

Okay, well, yeah, still gives me the same gist, I feel Personally.

Speaker 1: 32:49

But I think the reason why I picked water because we live in a world where man's always changing names, so if sea changes you might have people that say it. But it said the sea, not water, hmm, fair enough, fair enough?

Speaker 2: 32:59

not water, fair enough, fair enough? You must not bow down to them or worship them, for I, the Lord, your God, am a jealous God who would not tolerate your affliction for any other gods. Oh yeah, I lay the sin of the parents upon their children. The entire family is afflicted, even children in the third and fourth generation of those who reject me. Oh wow, this is a bit too much for me, you know, and I think that's the reason why, even though it's a version I'm comfortable with when it comes to something like this, I wouldn't read it in this version.

Speaker 1: 33:45

Which version.

Speaker 2: 33:47

In the NLT version. Sorry guys, I wouldn't read it in the NLT version. When it comes to the. Ten Commandments, because I'm not comfortable with it. That's interesting. I'm not comfortable with it. I feel like I know the King James Version and I would go back to the King James Version for this in specific. I don't like the way it's been taken away. But I guess if I didn't understand the King James Version because that's another thing we'll be saying stuff. We've memorized it, but do we actually know what it means?

Speaker 1: 34:25

But you also got to remember most of the Ten Commandments that you see around has been shortened. Okay, if that makes sense.

Speaker 2: 34:40

Of any version.

Speaker 1: 34:43

Yeah, like I'm trying to think, like you shouldn't have any other gods before me. You shall not make idols, you shall not take the name of the Lord, your God, in vain.

Speaker 2: 34:57

So it's shortened okay, I got you with that one. Yeah, I get that, that makes sense.

Speaker 1: 35:11

But yeah, I couldn't, I think, because I understand that and like you said it's shortened what else do you want to about um not committing adultery?

Speaker 2: 35:23

which one is that versus?

Speaker 1: 35:26

oh, do you know what? I didn't even I just I've just remembered that I shall not commit adultery in my head, so I just want to.

Speaker 2: 35:32

I don't know what verse it is, oh, fair enough okay, okay, yeah, that's um, that's the oh, is it adultery? You said yeah, oh yeah yeah, it just says, you must not commit adultery what verse is it?

Speaker 2: 35:49

14, so the other ones, so the other ones above. They've like made it longer, but when it gets to verse 11, sorry, 12, it's more simple. So verse 12 is Honor your mother and father, then you will live a long, full life in the land the Lord, your God, has given you. But then it literally just goes to you must not murder, you must not commit. Adul goes to you must not murder, you must not commit adultery, you must not steal. Oh yes, I was right, thou shalt not steal. You must not testify falsely against your neighbour. You must not covet your neighbour's house. You must not covet your neighbour's wife, male or female and that's in the niv version new living.

Speaker 1: 36:47

Yeah, nlt I'm surprised that it would say um covet. I thought it would have changed that word, yeah, that's the thing.

Speaker 2: 36:56

When I read it, it still uses one or two words. That's from the original version, because it's covered in the original version yeah, let me see what it says in the NIV. So it still does. That's the thing about it. It does actually still use, and I think that's where I think that's where I can switch back to the new living sorry, the NIV says the same thing as well.

Speaker 1: 37:23

I guess they couldn't change it.

Speaker 2: 37:25

Oh, does it Fair enough? Fair enough, yeah, but it does do that, though I do notice that a lot that it does use those words, but yeah, so, to round it off, I feel like there's no wrong or right answer.

Speaker 1: 37:44

I just think that it's important to have the King James Version alongside what other version you are reading, so you can always go back and, most importantly, pray that you are able to read the King James Version.

Speaker 1: 38:00

Pray that you're able to read the King James Version. It is possible because many pastors, many people even the other day I was watching these Caribbean children reading the King James Version and saying, like what it means, and I was shocked, like one of the little girls was like five and her brother was 10, and it's just like training your mind with, with anything like when we're, when we was all there saying singing Missy Elliott, it's your feminist of swearing, yet what did that mean? But we were singing it right. So I just think to myself, like everything takes time and, with prayer and supplication, keep praying, keep reading, keep praying, keep reading and just always have them lined up that you'll be able to understand what certain words mean. Um, because the word never, ever changes, and I think that's a very important thing. So that's my little two cents on my side very similar takeaway, um, probably, yeah, the same thing.

Speaker 2: 39:12

Really. Just to reiterate the prayer side, I think that's something I'm going to take away from myself as well from this that I need to pray more about being able to understand those versions and not accepting it and saying I don't understand it. I think that's definitely a tip I will take from today. Yeah, and don't set yourself up to fail. I think that's definitely a tip I will take from today. Yeah. And don't set yourself up to fail.

Speaker 1: 39:45

I think that's another thing. I feel like if you're going to set yourself up to fail, then you will never be able to do anything. Like you know, like if you see something and think, oh, that's a lot, I'm not going to be able to do it, you set yourself up to fail without even trying. So I think that's one of the things, and I think it's really important to even pray before you open the word um, that the Lord will lead you and to understand. And I think another thing with the Bible it's not a book. It's not just a book, it's not something that you just pick up and read and get. Like sometimes you would have to dissect, like verse one to ten and break it down so that you can understand each bit, um, to be able to, to get it.

Speaker 1: 40:34

And I think sometimes we just look, we just read it like it's a book, like we're meant to just get everything boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, yeah, um, yeah. And that's why, that's why you will highlight certain verses in the bible, because you can relate to that specific thing out of the whole chapter, but then could be next year that you might relate to something else. And I've one thing that I love about the bible. No matter how many times you read it, wherever you are in life, you get different gems. So you might not understand chapter 10 for the past five years and then six years later, you understand. Or verse two stood out to you, but next week it might be verse seven. Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 1: 41:20

yeah, that's one thing that I love about it yeah, and don't feel like you're never gonna get it or there's something wrong with you. That's the enemy telling you that the lord will never say, that he'll never leave you nor forsake you. Just take one verse at a time. If you don't understand a chapter, take it by verse. What verse stands out? Or even think, oh, where is this based? Who are these people? Try and break it down that way, um, and don't just think because your next door neighbor, um, or your friend or your sister or your or whoever is just like, oh, they understand, understand the Bible, but I don't. Don't put yourself down and don't try to think, oh, I have to be just like them. God reaches you in your own space and that's why I said there's nothing wrong with having two Bibles side to side.

Speaker 2: 42:18

Because one day you will get there Speaking to me, honey. I don't know about you, guys, but that was for me too. I'm taking a word. That was a little sermon right there, honey, a little sermon. I'm taking that. I'm taking that because I feel like that's me. I feel like, as I'm talking about this now, I feel frustrated with myself because I feel like I've been trying to read a chapter a day and if I start breaking it down to only trying to dissect 10 chapters, 10 verses out of that chapter, that means I'm behind, that means I'm slow, that means why can't you get it? Why can't you read the whole thing and get it? Like that's what I'm hearing in my head right now. Um, because it's taking me so long to get to this point and it can be frustrating.

Speaker 2: 43:07

So, guys, I get it like it is frustrating because you, just for me personally, I'll admit to my shortfalls, where I struggle, like, and it is frustrating when you can't get it, um, but sometimes the chapter is really long, like some a chapter could be like 50 verses yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 43:28

So that's why I'm saying that there's times where you just literally got to, you could, even because even um yesterday I was reading Zafinaya um, because I've never read that book before, um, and I just stood, well, stood, I was um reading like six verses over and over again because I was trying to to understand it and trying to get it like forget about the whole chapter and there's nothing wrong it doesn't mean that you're slow or you're stupid or you know, you feel like you're illiterate.

Speaker 1: 44:04

Everybody just does things differently. He made us in his image. You know, not ours, not Jessica, not Tim, not Kimisha, none, none, none, none His image.

Speaker 2: 44:19

Yeah, yeah, I get that. Yeah, I get that. Yeah, I get that, definitely, definitely, definitely. Well, guys, hopefully you have a takeaway as well from this and you can realize that, um, you know, elohim is not, he's not disappointed in you, he's not upset with you, but he is definitely. He has definitely overjoyed the fact that you want to be in his world and you're willing to be in his word. Um, and you know, just continue on, because that's the one thing I will say. Like I think I said in the previous episode um, there's times where I was just so frustrated that I wanted to give up, but I'm so happy that I didn't give up, um, and I'm still on that journey.

Speaker 2: 45:17

I'm still like this. You know, you're always going to keep learning on this narrow path. You're always going to keep learning. Like. I had some stuff yesterday on a zoom meeting that I thought, oh my gosh, why have I never prayed for this? Why have I never thought about this? What? Like? My mind is just blown every week because I'm exposing myself to certain environments to be able to gain, and when you feel, like you you've gained, like there's so much more to learn. There's so much more to gain, um, and this relationship that you have with christ is just wow, beyond is beyond, you know, our own human understanding, um, and that's why the journey is just one that you have to just keep going with and persist with, the same way we can persist with every other thing that we do persist with in life that can be really hard. Um, he should be the number one um of of of it all. You know so all you know.

Speaker 1: 46:26

So, yeah, definitely a powerful takeaway today, definitely powerful and, with that being said, that's a wrap.

Speaker 2: 46:30

That is a wrap. Do you want to pray this week?

Speaker 1: 46:35

I don't mind, it'll be nice and short. Dear heavenly father, I want to thank you for allowing us to be present today. Thank you for every listener that is listening. Lord, I pray that we all have difficulty with reading and understanding in some way, shape or form. May they not feel any negativity but positivity. May they not feel any negativity but positivity. I pray that your holy spirit may surround each and every reader as they begin to read your word and learn. Most importantly, help us to be able to memorize your word, um, and understand it and value it, um. And may we learn the 10 commandments, because that is key and because they are all great. These things I ask and pray in your name. Amen, amen, amen. See you guys for part three.

Speaker 2: 47:35

See you guys.