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2 Guys Talking Baseball
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Can the Chicago Cubs turn their season around? Join us on Two Guys Talking Baseball as we dive into the ups and downs of the Cubs' recent performance. Brian's optimism shines through despite the team's struggles, as he highlights standout players like Paradey and their improved gameplay. Reflecting on the glory of the 2016 championship, we draw parallels to the current squad and applaud Jed Hoyer's efforts in rebuilding the bullpen. Stay with us as we look forward to what the future might hold for the Cubs.
Shifting gears, we're excited to talk about the Dodgers' postseason prospects. With initial doubts about their pitching rotation, recent strong performances by Landon Knack and the resilience of their offense have sparked new confidence. We'll break down the potential rotation, featuring stars like Flaherty, Yamamoto, Bueller, and Knack, while celebrating the consistent contributions from Betts, Freeman, and Otani. Hot streaks from Tommy Edmond, Quique Hernandez, and Max Muncy only add to our excitement as October approaches.
In the latter part of the episode, we tackle some of the season's most controversial moments. From Derrick Bender's shocking actions in minor league baseball to Garrett Cole's risky call during a no-hitter, we've got a lot to unpack. We'll also explore the charm of minor league games in East Tennessee, the Tennessee Smokies' relocation, and the historical evolution of the Dodgers. Wrapping up, we offer our candid opinions on MLB uniform aesthetics and make a heartfelt plea for your support on our YouTube channel. Tune in for an episode brimming with insights, reflections, and boundless baseball passion!
Hello everyone, welcome inside Three Crows Studios in lovely Morristown, Tennessee. This is Two Guys Talking Baseball. As always, I'm Dallas Danger and I'm joined by my best friend and colleague, Brian Logan. Say your line.
Speaker 2:It's been a great week for baseball.
Speaker 1:It sure has. We got a lot to cover today on the show. We're going to talk some indie ball, which I always love talking independent baseball. We're going to talk some Major League Baseball, of course, and then we've got some minor league news we want to discuss as well. Really interesting happening in the minors. But before we get into all that, Brian, as we always do, we're going to start with your thoughts on the Chicago Cubs.
Speaker 2:Well, we are playing as well as we can play and we're playing our hearts out. We really are. It's just not going to be good enough. We can't gain any ground. We just lost to the a's of all people and we look good there. I mean we look good. We just gave up more runs than we scored. I mean that's it happens. It's baseball, it happens. Um, you know there's some guys that are on on fire and uh, you know that are playing really well and but it's just too little, too late. But but I'll tell you what it. It makes me hopeful for next year. Right, and uh, I have seen paradey smile twice. That's great. I have. Uh, he hit a single knocked in a run and uh, napoli said something to him at first base and he smiled. And then yesterday they were on the mound for a pitching change and uh, swanson said something to him and he really laughed yeah it was pretty good.
Speaker 2:So so that he's, he's, he's going. I think it was something like before yesterday, it was something like 14 for 26 or something like that, with a lot of rbi's. So he's doing, he's doing a lot better, and you know, it just is what it is. I mean, you know they started playing better after we had written them off and it's just they're just running out of time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, that's the thing. Like we said, it happens. It's baseball. But the problem for the Cubs is that's not really happening to the teams that they need to leapfrog over in the standings, because everybody in front of them, sans maybe the Diamondbacks, who have hit a little bit of a skid, but the Mets, the Braves, the Padres, they're all playing really well right now and, in the case of the Padres, have been for a while. So, yeah, like you said, they just can't gain any ground and, um, yeah, I mean might I think I think it's just too little, too late, which you know. Every not just you, but every person I've talked to about the cubs who is familiar with the cubs or is a fan kind of predicted like, yeah, they're just, they're just getting us excited and they're going to fall just a little short because that's what they do.
Speaker 2:We need seven extra days that nobody else is playing. That's all we need. If we had that, it's a shoo-in.
Speaker 1:If nobody else is playing and you win seven games, that's only three and a half you'd pick up on.
Speaker 2:I know right, so you're still not quite in. Well, we need 14 days, then we're gonna need two extra weeks and you're assuming you'll go 14 and 0 in those two. Well, of course, we will, because who are we playing?
Speaker 1:there's nobody else playing oh, the cubbies, the lovable losers as they have often been called they are.
Speaker 2:They're fun to watch, man.
Speaker 1:It's a little wild how far we've gotten from the 2016 championship.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean, it was eight years ago at this point. So you know it's a whole different team now. You know, especially after those couple of trade deadlines where they just shipped everybody out.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And yeah, it's uh, but the cubs, you know, I think you're right to be excited for next year. I mean, this is a team that's got, you know, it's gonna look, you know, largely the same, I think, without having everybody's contract situation right in front of me, I think I think you've got some guys at least a core you know signed up for a little while and right, um, there's no reason to believe that this can't be the cubs of next year. Right, the team we've seen, you know, as of late, um, you know they and, and and I know cubs fans are gonna hate me for doing this, but kudos to jed hoyer because he rebuilt that bullpen he did he.
Speaker 2:We were really hard on him and I almost feel guilty, but I don't.
Speaker 1:You really shouldn't. I mean, I have yet to encounter a Cubs fan that says anything about Jed Hoyer. That's positive.
Speaker 2:Right, well, he's just, he's not the guy, but he did rebuild the bullpen and that helped us out a lot. Yeah, and it was almost night and day. He did it very quickly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was a quick process. I mean they really just overhauled the whole group and started seeing results from it Immediately. Yeah, it was a big change for this team and I think it gave the rest of the squad a better chance to win the game.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because this was a bullpen and I mean it's going to sound like we're exaggerating, but it seemed like every day they'd get to the late innings and blow it, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. So you know, yeah, so that's kind of where we're at with the Cubs right now, and you know, I don't know, it might not be much longer we're talking about the Cubs being mathematically eliminated, right. Right, I don't know what we're going to open the show with at that point.
Speaker 2:Well, we'll figure out something.
Speaker 1:I mean, if they're playing games, we'll talk about them.
Speaker 2:Of course, of course I mean you know we can talk about him. So of course of course I mean you know we can talk about pca every day. I mean sure, I mean he's, he's incredible, you know he's, he's getting it done. Yeah, you know, just hustling and butting and hitting home runs and chasing down everything in the field and yeah I mean, he's an inspiration to watch man he really he's.
Speaker 1:He's getting everything out of his experience what does the pre-trade deadline record have to be for the cubs next year for him to not get traded?
Speaker 2:oh, I don't know I mean they're gonna have to be pretty good, right, yeah, yeah, because that's what I'm scared to death of. Yeah, because that's my guy now and I mean, if we, I can think back of, uh, tony campana, who was the heart and soul of our team that one year and like 14 or 15, something like that, yeah, and he reminds me a lot now.
Speaker 1:Pca is better than him, of course, but they were about the same size and same you know?
Speaker 2:um, they brought the same thing to the game, right, and then they traded him off and I was heartbroken yeah and I hope we don't go through that again well, we, we will see.
Speaker 1:We will see what the cubs do in the offseason and you know what that team looks like next year. But you know, um reasons to be positive, at least for the oh yeah um. So, as far as the Dodgers go, this week, I honestly I had really, up until really up until last night, had sort of planned on coming in here and saying that I don't know that the Dodgers have the pitching to get the job done in October. Get the job done in October. But you know, landon Knack responded about as well as you could hope for after a really bad outing against the Braves. Um, you know, shut down the Marlins for five innings. Last night offense showed up again, gave us a chance to win and we did. And you might say, well, it was just the Marlins and that is true, this is not a good offensive team. But the night before Bobby Miller pitched against the Marlins and gave up a bunch of runs. So you know, dontrell Willis D-Train, who I love, always likes to say they drive nice cars too. Yeah, these are still big leaguers and when you ask, you ask.
Speaker 1:Well, mookie Betts was mic'd up for Sunday Night Baseball last week and he talked about how the talent level. There's not a lot of margin of difference at the big league level. It's all about what you do with that talent when you get there and your routine and your prep work. Because that's the thing that I've really learned the last couple years, because I've had the luxury of rooting for a team that in the last four years has added three of the best players on the planet in Betts, freeman and Otani, and those guys work like John Henry. I mean, they are the hardest working ballplayers I've ever seen in my life. There's a reason they elevate themselves out of that pack of talent that is the players in the major leagues. But yeah, I'm feeling pretty good because when you look at the potential postseason rotation, I think you got Flaherty and Yamamoto at the potential postseason rotation. I think you got flaherty and yamamoto at the top. You know that's obvious. Then you're looking at probably um, you know, glass now, as they've said is done for the year. Uh, we got news yesterday that gavin stone is unlike, very unlikely, to pitch again this year. Uh, kershaw is making some progress in his rehab so we might see Kershaw, but let's just assume he's not going to make it back. We're dealing with what we got on the table right now.
Speaker 1:Your three and four starters for the Dodgers are probably going to be Walker Bueller and Landon Knack, and I feel really good about Landon Knack and Landon Knack. And I feel really good about Landon Knack. I think his stuff and his demeanor will play up in bigger games, because I don't want to use the term swagger. But Knack definitely carries himself like he's been there before. He carries himself like an absolute pro and a veteran and his stuff plays up. He throws like 96, which is still pretty stinking good, but to me, his first spring training, the first fastball he threw, he popped the glove and I went. He throws that hard and he doesn't. It just plays up. He's got a really live arm and there's a lot of life on that fastball.
Speaker 1:As far as Walker Buehler goes, he's not great. He's not the Walker we're used to, but lately he's been giving us a chance to win and if he's your game four starter in the playoffs, this great offense and it's a great offense is going to be facing a number four starter from the other team. So Buehler doesn't have to be perfect or shut down or dominant. He just has to give that offense an opportunity to get on top of the other pitching staff and I think he can do that in October and his track record in the playoffs speaks for itself. I mean he has thrown really well in October for the Dodgers in the past and hopefully will again this year. So you know, I say all that to say I expected pretty much all week to talk about how I don't know if we've got it, but I'm feeling a lot better today and you know I mean you look at this team, the four games they've scored at least eight runs.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:They scored nine runs, three games in a row, and they scored eight last night. I mean there aren't a lot of offenses that can do that period.
Speaker 2:I mean they've been producing a lot of runs all year, I mean on a regular basis.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a good lineup, and now that we've got it kind of honed in and we kind of have a good idea of what the lineup's going to look like every day, or at least like this is what it'll look like against lefties, this is what it'll look like against righties, and we're getting contributions from everywhere. Yes, we've got Otani, betts and Freeman, but Tommy Edmond is red hot right now.
Speaker 1:And he's hitting for power both sides of the plate, but especially against lefties on that right-handed side. He is really, really rocking left-handed pitching and so that's a weapon in October. You know, you look at Quique Hernandez hit a shot last night and you know Quique is sort of known for being a mistake hitter. The ball he hit out last night was not a mistake, it was a pretty good pitch pitch and he just got a hold of it, yeah. So you know, uh, his eyesight. You know the glasses have helped him a ton. So he's, he's gonna, he's gonna have some big at bats for us. Um, you know, we're just getting it from everywhere.
Speaker 1:Muncie's been hot, you know, uh, will smith has come back and played really well. You know, hit the ball well as of late, which is super encouraging. Right, because these guys all they do is lengthen that lineup and make it harder to find outs one through nine. So you know, and I think a lot of it too, for me is like we're close now. We're less than two weeks away from the end of the regular season. At this point, I mean, there's like 11 games left for the Dodgers and I'm starting to get that anxiety.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, because it's just this time of year. What will they do, you know? And, and here's the thing, the pack is so tight this year. There is not an obvious best team, there's not an obvious best couple of teams. If you get in, you have definitely got a shot this year, and I know we we always say that, especially with this new format, but it's never been more true than this year. There's there's parody in baseball, which is something we don't really get to say year in and year out, like you do in, say, football right the, the way that roster construction and the union is set up and the contracts are set up.
Speaker 1:In football there's a lot more parity, just naturally. Baseball, the economics are different and I'm not complaining, I like the economics in baseball, but you know, it just doesn't. It makes for, and I say that, and we've got all these teams that could win it, and then we have perhaps the worst team in history at the same time. So you know, it's sort of still baseball, right, but yeah, it's getting to be that time of the year.
Speaker 2:I need to pick up some paper bags on the way home for when I start hyperventilating, I thought you were going to put them over your head in case it goes bad.
Speaker 1:Never, I don't believe in that shit. The Dodgers could go 0-162, and I'd still show my face and wear the gear because I don't give a fuck. That's good, that's my team. It doesn't matter, no matter what. That's my team and I'm sticking with them. Now, I might not watch every day if they go 0-162. I might take some unscheduled off day, a sabbatical yes, a sabbatical. I just need a week. You guys play the games and. I'll look at the box scores and I'll come back next week.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but real quick not to change the subject yes, no, please. I mean, do you think the Whites you mentioned the worst team ever real quick and it made me think of do you think they're going to make it to the worst team?
Speaker 1:Okay. So it depends on how you look at it. Most people are viewing it in the sense of the modern era and they are three losses away from tying the most losses in the modern era, which is 120. Yeah, they lost in 13 innings last night, had a lead, lost it. It lost it in extras. I mean, they're just and and and.
Speaker 1:Uh, jeff pass, and I didn't read the whole article, I read, uh, about the first half of it and just, you know, I got a little, I was a little sleepy, so I I didn't. You know, I got sick of reading words on a screen. But uh, pass and wrote a really great article for espn where he basically was with the team for a week and talked about how they're coping, what the demeanor's like. You know, uh, what grady sizemore is doing as the interim manager, and and it was a really good piece. I mean passin's great all the time, um, but but it was a really really well done piece, um, you know, and and he just talked about how, like, a lot of them are just laughing at it because the thing about the white socks is they're not that much worse than the next team.
Speaker 1:It looks like it on paper because they're like 19 20 games behind anybody else. Right, they have just had, I mean, the baseball gods have been shitting on them all year, yeah, and he lists a lot of things and I remembered most of them. I was like, man, he's right, a lot of this is just, you know, a lack of good fortune. Yeah, you know. So you know. Yeah, I think they get there. I mean.
Speaker 2:Okay, so what makes them the? What would be worse? They get there and they don't get the three losses, so they're not even good enough to be the worst team. Or they actually get the three losses and they are the worst team, which is worse.
Speaker 1:Well, I think, from a White Sox perspective, you want to avoid it. Okay, because you don't want to be known as that team. Because here's the thing part of the reason the mets are so laughed at is because the record is their inaugural year yeah when they were just not competitive.
Speaker 1:Right, you know, because they hadn't really worked out expansion to a level where teams could be competitive. You know, nowadays, you know new team, you know, uh, not that that's happened in baseball in a while, but you know, in most sports an expansion team can at least be competitive. Yeah, you know, um it, you know. So I just think if you're a white socks fan or you're involved with the White Sox in any way, you want to avoid that record.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because who knows when it gets broken? Because the Mets record was set in the early 60s. So you know it's been around for a long time and and you know you could, for the next 60, 70, 100 plus years, be the worst team and and and you could, you go, you could go on the win world series, because the Mets have done that. But they're still sort of like the laughingstock of the league and I think part of that is the fact that they started off their first season was the worst season in the modern era for any team. There's a certain lingering effect to that, I think. So if you're the White Sox, you want to avoid it if you can, but I just don't see them.
Speaker 2:See, I disagree. I think if you're this far in, you want to avoid it if you can, but I just don't see them. See, I disagree. I think if you're this far in, you've got to be the worst, You've got to accomplish something, and then it would be a bigger loss if you're not even good enough to be the worst, but don't you think you've accomplished something by avoiding it at this point, by playing well enough to avoid? It? No, because the only thing they've got is to break this record.
Speaker 1:Because, if not, then they're just mediocre. But why do you want to remember this season at all? Well, you don't. Wouldn't you rather it be a forgettable bad season than the worst season of all time that's going to be talked about forever? I don't know they could parlay that whole thing.
Speaker 2:Look at Bob Uecker, they could parlay that whole deal.
Speaker 1:I don't understand what you're saying. I need you to elaborate on that comparison.
Speaker 2:They could parlay that in as the worst team ever and get some endorsements of this. Hey, try this. It's not that bad, because we know what's bad, you know? I mean they could work with this. Okay, you don't agree? I don't agree.
Speaker 1:I don't agree at all. I don't think that not marketable because you have nobody to market to, because nobody's coming to the games.
Speaker 2:Well, that's a good point. I don't know, maybe I'm just talking out my ass.
Speaker 1:No, I mean I understand what you're saying. I just really don't agree. I think in a competitive sport at that level, you want to try to keep from losing three more games, like you really want to try to play your way out.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm not saying you tank the games. I know, I know, I'm just saying that at this point you've got to almost kind of embrace it.
Speaker 1:Well, they have, and that was something that Passon touched on in the article he wrote you know they've taken it on the chin. You know they've. I don't know that embrace is the word, you know, I don't know that anybody embraces losing Well, that anybody embraces losing well. I mean they might. We'll get to that in a moment, but you know, I just think at the major league level, you know, the goal is to win. Well, the goal should be to win, and, yeah, they're just losing a lot of games, man, and I think a lot of people would just rather forget this season altogether, rather than have that record looming over them, over top of them. Because because, again, who knows how long that stands? You know they could, they could be, they could make the playoffs the next 10 years. Right, and it's still going to be. Yeah, but before that, they were the worst team ever, because that'd be the story. Oh, they turned it around, because they were the worst team ever well, I mean that's the thing next year.
Speaker 2:I mean we're, we're better than we were before. Nowhere to go but nowhere to go but up I mean we guarantee we'll be better because we were the worst last year.
Speaker 1:So segue time. Speaking of nowhere to go but up, I want to talk about a young man, uh, named derrick bender. Bender was a catcher who was drafted in the sixth round out of Coastal Carolina, was playing for the Fort Myers Mighty Muscles, the twin single-A club, and on September 12th, which was last Thursday, he got released because, in a game that determined whether or not his team made the minor league playoffs, he was literally telling the other team's hitters the pitches that were coming. Now you may, like I did when I heard this go, what in the hell is going on there? Yeah, but it was reported that other players on the team and even his coaches had heard him say, leading up to this point in the season, he didn't want the team to make the playoffs because he just wanted the season to be over. Right, I have some thoughts. I've dug up some—I've done some research on this guy just as an individual. But first off, brian, I've got to get your take on this because I'm dying to know what you think. Well, this is ridiculous.
Speaker 2:I mean that's against the whole point of the game. I mean, if you don't want to be there, just say hey, bench me, coach, or I'm out. I'm going home. I mean there's other players on that team that I'm sure wanted to win that game and he screwed them. I mean it's just. I mean, oh, the things that would have happened in the locker room afterwards. I mean, can you imagine that argument? Yeah, I mean guys that are really heart and soul into this thing and he's up there giving away the pitches.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean it's ridiculous. It's totally ridiculous and he should be gone.
Speaker 1:Well, he is, and I don't know that he's ever going to get another. Look, yeah, he shouldn't get one to individuals who have maybe not a personal relationship with Derek, but have covered him in the past and know a little bit about his personality. Okay, and one of the things that I heard a lot was had he not had something happened, injury performance-wise, and he didn't make it to the major leagues, which most people I talked to said he would have been a major leaguer, like he had, what it takes. He was on a path, but had that not happened, he had a future in the game, in media because of his personality. He's very eccentric and I've heard he's very comfortable with who he is, which leads to things like this this, which is honesty to a fault.
Speaker 1:Um, here's the other thing are there really that many players in single a that want to play more single a games? Probably not right, but you don't just come out and say it with your full throat and and throw the game in a way that's gonna get you caught. I mean, he couldn't have possibly thought I'm gonna do this and get away with it and still have a job, because had he rationalized it at all, which maybe he didn't, and that's why we're he's in this situation. But if he had rationalized it in his head at all, I mean, um, yeah, man, I, I don't know, it's just, it's just hard to wrap your head around yeah, it really is.
Speaker 2:I mean, okay, so we laugh at bull durham and it happened once in the thing, and you know that was a. That's a funny moment in the movie, right?
Speaker 1:it's a different thing in real life well, and in the movie it was crash was doing his job teaching he was teaching the kid a lesson.
Speaker 1:He wasn't trying to throw the game right, he didn't do it to multiple batters in one game to go, let's get, let's get this over with and go home so we don't have to play anymore, right? Um, I just don't. I mean, it's sort of night and day for me. You know, and, yes, you know it's a comedy and it was funny and but this isn't funny, but this is not funny for anybody. No, like this is really really unfortunate stuff.
Speaker 2:Um, I mean it just just quit at that point if you don't want to compete and you don't want to play. I mean just say hey, I don't feel like playing today. My head's not right, take me off.
Speaker 1:Yep, because I think in that situation you get another shot. Mm-hmm, if you're just honest and you say, hey, I'm just done, I'm just done, I don't want to play today. Yeah, I'm just done. I don't want to play today, yeah, but again, is the culture in the minor leagues such that you can do that? That's the culture in the majors Right, but you're a major leaguer. At that point You're a consummate professional, you're a millionaire and they view it as you're helping the team, because you'd be hurting the team if you forced it and played.
Speaker 1:Right, but in the minors, I don't know. If there's that climate, I and I'm saying I don't know, I'm not saying it's not there, I'm saying I don't know, right.
Speaker 2:I would assume, if I had to guess, that that's frowned upon I would assume that too, but I mean, that's better than the alternative.
Speaker 1:I mean again, you're not totally out of baseball, because I don't think anybody touches Derek Bender now, no, even like at an independent level or any of that. I think he's done, done.
Speaker 2:Because he'll be accused of doing it even if he doesn't do it.
Speaker 1:Well, right, Because in the back of your mind there's always is he going to do something like that? Maybe not the same thing, but is he gonna lose? His head and baseball is a game where you can't lose your head.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean you just can't do it now. He needs to seek some therapy and see why he did this perhaps, maybe therapy is uh is in his future. I don't know, and I don't say that jokingly, I mean I, he, there's got to be a reason for this, not just I don't want to play yeah, yeah, I mean it's just, it's just mind-boggling to even be talking about something like this. Yeah, it's totally mind-boggling. I mean it's strange, it's macabre yeah it's well.
Speaker 1:I mean good luck to Derek Bender with whatever's next in life, because it ain't going to have anything to do with baseball. No, no.
Speaker 2:Thank you for playing. We'll see you never. Yeah, maybe the last time anybody ever mentions your name, we're not even going to invite you on the reunion tour.
Speaker 1:All right, so you got anything else to say about this? I mean, it's pretty much.
Speaker 2:I'd just like to sum it up by saying that's bullshit, yeah. Yeah, it was just terrible, terrible, terrible so if you're, if you're, uh, if you're audio.
Speaker 1:Only, I was just uh signing bullshit. I don't even know if the camera caught that it was too low, okay, well here can you see it now. Yep, that is literally the ASL for bullshit. There we go, which is the funniest sign ever.
Speaker 2:Now we know that that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all right. So let's pivot to some major league shenanigans and these are more shenanigans, more shit. That it's like I can't believe we're talking about this, because it's something that we've never seen. Major League Shenanigans, that's it. That's it, man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there you go, write it down.
Speaker 1:Major League Shenanigans Folks. I think we just named the show, so there we go. All right. So Garrett Cole, you know you could argue the top pitcher in the game right now for the New York Yankees is. He's playing the Red Sox, so it's a little extra oomph, even though it's a regular season game, because of that rivalry, and he's got a no-hitter going. Well, rafael Devers comes to the plate and that's obviously the Sox best hitter and there's nobody on base and Garrett Cole puts up the four fingers. And they were talking about this on Sunday Night Baseball, you know, uh, the day after. You know, uh, the day after, and david cone said he had never in his life seen that where the player, the pitcher, called for the intentional walk to put a guy on base.
Speaker 1:Um, because that's usually, you know, that's a manager, that's a managerial decision um, yeah, man, I mean I mean, and that led to a little bit of a rally for the Red Sox and I mean really backfired for Garrett Cole. So I mean, I don't know, brian, what's your thoughts on this? I mean, give me what you got.
Speaker 2:Well, okay, so I'm of two minds here. First of all, the bottom line is it's not his call, it's the manager's call, and if I was the manager I'd have been hot call. It's the manager's call and if I was the manager I'd have been hot, yeah. However, though, if he's in command of the game and he really feels like he's in the zone and he knows what he's doing, I could see that, but apparently he didn't know what he was doing because it started to come back yeah so it just it was bad all the way around.
Speaker 2:Um, I mean it he. In my opinion it should have been the manager, the catcher, then him, so he's like third on the line of making this call. You know what I mean? It's just shenanigans. I mean, who does he think he is to do this?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's very interesting and I hadn't thought about this until just now. Interesting, you know, and I hadn't thought about this until just now. We've talked about the Yankees and their manager, aaron Boone, a little bit this year. If you'll recall the Glaber-Torres hit where he didn't hustle out a double when it was probably a double.
Speaker 1:Has Aaron Boone lost this team? Maybe, I mean, is this a symptom of that? Yeah, you know, and I don't know. I mean, I don't care about the Yankees enough to watch them or keep up with them. I know Aaron Boone is much maligned, you know, and maybe rightfully so, because the Yankees fans think they're supposed to win it every year and that's just not possible.
Speaker 1:Of course, but again, they're supposed to win it every year and that's just not possible, of course, but again, they're the winningest franchise in Major League history. We can argue why another day, but factually they've won it a lot more than anybody else and they haven't in 15 years. At this point, 2009 was the last time they even went to the World Series. A couple years ago they were the last place team In a good division. But again, you can quibble with detail. The facts are the facts. They were in last place. If you're in the cellar, you're still in the cellar. Yeah, last place is still last place. It doesn't matter what everybody else does. Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1:This is really interesting and I think, um, I think, more than anything, it shows how the game has evolved and this game has gotten a lot more player friendly, and that's a good thing. Yeah, you know the the union is the strongest in major sports and these guys are treated really well at the major league level and hopefully soon we'll well, we've already started to sort of see the changes in the minors, but hopefully those will take hold. And last, but yeah, it's just really interesting to see a player make that call In that position, yeah, but yeah, it's just really interesting to see a player make that call, you know.
Speaker 2:In that position. Yeah, you know, I mean, it just was weird. It showed that he was afraid of them.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, I mean, what else could it be other than he just flat out didn't want to face Devers?
Speaker 2:Yeah, he didn't want that no-hitter getting broke up and he caused it. I mean, if I was on the other team I'd be like oh, here we go, we got him. Yeah, we're in his head, we're in his head, which is apparently what happened and sparked the comeback.
Speaker 1:Yeah, definitely. Just, I mean, I don't know what else to say about it. It's another topic that you explain what happened and you kind of throw your arms up and go. That's the craziest shit I've ever heard.
Speaker 2:Well, you can tell it's getting towards October because things are just going wacky.
Speaker 1:Things are getting real wacky, real wacky and in that same vein, I'm so excited to talk about independent baseball. I love independent baseball. I love independent baseball.
Speaker 1:Um, pablo sandoval, the big panda famous for his world series exploits with the san francisco giants, was a world series mvp during their three titles in five years, or whatever it was okay. Um, he you know. Uh, many people listening and watching may know he got in really great shape this past offseason and got invited to Giants spring training. Didn't make the team, but everyone was very impressed with the work he had put in. So he lands with the Atlantic League's Staten Island Ferryhawks Okay, independent team. And you know he's a hitter and has always been known as a hitter. You know he was a big guy, power hitter in the major leagues. He's been doing some pitching and on the 14th of September got his first professional start on the mound for the Ferry Hawks and threw five and a third scoreless innings. There you go. I mean I don't know, could he potentially be saying if I want to get back to the big time, I got to do it as a pitcher, or do you think he's just having fun?
Speaker 2:I think he's just having fun because that's the hardest way to go to the majors, isn't it? I mean, am I mistaken on that?
Speaker 1:I mean right now, probably because you gotta throw so hard to get to that level. I don't know that he would be able to keep up. You know, just from like an injury standpoint.
Speaker 2:I mean, maybe it was a bucket list thing he wanted to pitch and it just turned out that he was good at it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I could see that. I could see that. Let me see here yeah, I mean he's 38. I mean, I think the spring training thing was more him proving it to himself that he could do it. And yeah, I think now it's probably just like you said, maybe like a bucket list thing.
Speaker 2:Trying to check the boxes before you head to the house.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah but it's super fun to see, I mean, you know and and and you know great for staten island yeah, because they they're got to be selling more tickets.
Speaker 1:I don't, I haven't looked up any of that data, but I'd find I'd I'd find it hard to believe if they didn't see at least a little bump in attendance this year with a guy like that on your squad. Oh yeah, because at the Indy Ball level you have a lot more access to the players, so you know you could have people that are Giants fans saying, well, I'm going to go get his autograph, you know, and a picture with him or whatever at the Ferry Hawks game, because you can do that in Indy Ball, because they're, so it's just less of a media circus and less of a security issue.
Speaker 1:you know, parks are smaller I was going to say there's not 50 000 people coming to staten island fairy hawk games. You know it's. It's a much smaller scale thing, um, much more of like a grassroots kind of baseball thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um what a great nickname the the Panda. The Panda I wish I had, like the penguin or the panda or the sea lion. Ooh, that's what I want to be the sea lion.
Speaker 1:The sea lion.
Speaker 2:Yes, I don't know what that would entail, but I would from now on refer to me as the sea lion.
Speaker 1:You want me to throw raw fish up in the air so you can catch them with your mouth? Yes, I'll spin them on my nose and then I'll chomp them.
Speaker 2:you did just join a pool, so I did, I did just join a pool and uh, yes, that's why I will be known as the sea lion from now on the sea.
Speaker 1:I'm writing that down the sea lion.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes but no, I'm glad that he got the pitch, I'm glad he did well, you know, and if it is a bucket list, I hope he gets all of his bucket list boxes checked.
Speaker 1:For sure, man, because he you know he did his time in the majors, had success, you know, was a fan favorite really right up until the time that he wasn't in the majors anymore. But yeah, it's really impressive. It speaks to not only his athleticism but just his work ethic and his dedication and really his love for the game. Because most 38-year-olds if they got in really good shape, the best shape of their career, and tried to make a major league team and they didn't quite make the cut, they'd say you know what I tried, I gave it my all, I'm going to the house.
Speaker 2:I'm retiring.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So for him to go to any ball at all, I think personally, to me that speaks to his love of playing the game. Yeah, absolutely. But then to pitch too is just, you know, it's crazy. I mean, the last time we talked about independent ball was because a 44-year-old politician who used to pitch got an opportunity and stuck it out.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, there's so much fun things that happens down there, yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, it's the Wild West compared to the majors Anything?
Speaker 2:could happen.
Speaker 1:Anything, literally anything.
Speaker 2:The sea lion Wild West. Compared to the majors, anything could happen. Anything, literally anything. The C-line could be pitching next week.
Speaker 1:Hey, I just thought about this. It's not on the format, but I feel like we should touch on this. So part of the reason Brian moved to this part of Tennessee when he did was because the Tennessee Smokies, the Cubs AA team, is like right down the street. When Brian lived over in Dandridge they were literally like 25 minutes from his front doorstep. They just played their final home series in that ballpark before they move further into the chaos of Knoxville Right.
Speaker 2:Maryville, yeah, or as you, merville merville.
Speaker 1:Um, hey, wait, it's in maryville, I thought. I thought they were going downtown. No, it's merville.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, it's. It's still that it's downtown, but it's the outskirts of down, I see.
Speaker 1:Okay, so technically it's merville okay, okay, my, my, admittedly my knoxville geography is not great because I avoid that place at all costs because it's a chaotic drive in and out of it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's not campus, it's city. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:But, you know, sad day. Obviously We've seen a lot of cool stuff at that ballpark. We saw Christopher Murrell and how he interacted with the kids in the stands at that ballpark, which is something that has stuck with both of us, you know, as we've seen Murrell get to the major leagues and you saw PCA get his minor league gold glove award at that ballpark. And you know we've eaten a lot of all-you-can-eat burgers and dogs and potato salad and baked beans and potato chips, ice cream and helmets.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a lot of ice cream and helmets at that ballpark. You know it's, you know, and I think they've already determined it's getting torn down. They're not going to do anything with it other than tear it down and build like a hotel or a parking lot or something yeah, yeah, they're not.
Speaker 2:It's a shame. They thought that, uh, um, carson newman was going to play there, but I don't think they are yeah, I don't think they're going to keep it open just for carson.
Speaker 1:I don't think so either. Um, it's, it's, it's interesting. Uh, I get it. I understand the appeal of being being in Knoxville as opposed to Kodak Tennessee, but at the same time I don't know that they're going to do better attendance numbers in Knoxville.
Speaker 2:I don't think they are.
Speaker 1:Because Kodak is. For those who are not familiar with East Tennessee geography, kodak is basically right next to Pigeon Forge and Gatlinburg, which is one of the hottest tourist destinations in the country. It is a tourist trap and you always had fresh new faces every week coming into town that you could pull into the ballgames, because what better way to spend a night on your vacation than to go see a double-A minor league ball game? Right, it was a great place to see a game. They always had great staff, you know, that were highly trained. You know it felt like you were in a tourist town. You know, because they were so highly trained at dealing with tourists that, um, that even if you weren't a tourist, you got that same experience. Yeah, you know. So, yeah, I just wanted to bring that up, um, so, yeah, it's a shame, I mean uh, will I go over there, probably just to see it.
Speaker 2:Will I go there on a regular basis? No, because I'm not driving an hour and a half to go see, plus through traffic right to get there and traffic to get home. I mean, 26 minutes from where I used to live to the, from my porch to sitting in my seat at 107 was not bad, yeah, but now to put an hour on top of that, no, I just yeah, I can watch it on mlb. Uh, whatever, whatever, whatever yeah, I mean it.
Speaker 1:I mean I don't think it's going to be more than maybe once a year, maybe, right, you know, that's like a we'll go once a season type of thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um where I used to have season tickets, you know yeah you go all the time yeah so it's just a shame, you know they had, they got a new owner and he had a new business plan for the whole thing and yeah, that's just, you know.
Speaker 1:End of an era well, and it is a good ownership group. You know Boyd Sports is a good, a good ownership group. Um, you know they, they own, they own a couple of the Appalachian League teams, including Johnson City, who I'm a loyal follower of, and you know it's just a matter of money and business and I understand all that you know. And, admittedly, for a double A park it was not state of the art, things were a little dated in places. It needed some attention and it's probably easier at that level to just build a new park than it is to try to renovate an existing one, right? So yeah, it's. You know it's another one of those it is what it is, type of things. And you know I'm glad we had the Smokies as close as we did for as long as we did and certainly enjoyed every time I went to that ballpark and certainly enjoyed every time I went to that ballpark. And I mean, gosh, you and your wife Ashley met people that you still talk to at those games.
Speaker 2:Oh, absolutely. You know one of her best friends we met at the ballgame. She was a Sikh usher and then was a fan and she sat in front of us and then we all just got to know each other and Ashley and her are really close. So you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so yeah, you'll just have to go to some Greenville Flyboys games next year.
Speaker 2:That's my new thing, man. That's where I'm going to go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that's cool. I'm excited to try to do that. We tried once this year and it just didn't work out scheduling-wise. We wanted to go see Rintaro Sasaki when he was playing for Greenville. I fortunately got to see him play in the All-Star game. Yeah, so it's going to be a few more Greenville games now and less Smokies games.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's okay, though It'll be fresh. Hey, baseball's baseball. We'll get behind this other team also. We're not leaving the Smokies, we're just going to watch them somewhere else.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, absolutely yeah. I mean, I think my biggest thing is Knoxville didn't work for the AA team before. Why are they trying to make them? What's going to?
Speaker 2:be different now. It's nothing, nothing. You know, I think part of the the personality was the smokies was right there at the base of the smoky mountains.
Speaker 1:Yeah, not in the city.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah not in merrill right merrill merrill all right.
Speaker 1:So, uh, the last thing we kind of have that we wanted to talk about today was, uh, you know, we, we several, several months ago at this point I guess, um, we talked about the grimace mets. So the mets, uh, were fledgling a little bit. They bring in grimace, the, uh, the purple mcdonald's mascot in to throw out the first pitch. They go on a seven-game winning streak and really have been hot ever since then. I forgot to look up their record in that time, but it's really good. Mets are in playoff position now, whereas they really weren't before.
Speaker 1:And you know McDonald's no pun intended is well, I guess pun totally intended is loving it. Yeah, because part of fan appreciation at Citi Field was Grimace came back. Mcdonald's did a bunch of promotional stuff and they took out a seat and replaced it with a purple seat in honor of Grimace. Yeah, out a seat and replaced it with a purple seat in honor of grimace. Yeah, I mean this has gone from a joke on the internet to an integral part of the history of a team that has so much history already. I mean this is, this is really cool to see brian I mean they've embraced it.
Speaker 2:I mean it started off as a promotional thing and now it's become a permanent place in the stadium. That's so cool. Now can you sit in it. I mean, is it a ticket that's sold?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean it's got to be, because it's right in the middle of a section, okay, and it's not by itself. It's not like the prisoner of war seat that some ballparks have that sits by itself, that nobody sits in it. War seat that some ballparks have that sits by itself, that nobody sits in, it's literally in a section okay. So, yeah, I think you can and and I mean that's the other thing they're gonna make money off this because people are gonna be fighting over that seat oh yeah, and there's only one and there's one, yeah, it's one chair, and there'll be a list for yeah, there'll be a waiting list somebody will want to buy season tickets.
Speaker 1:can I buy season tickets to sit in the grimace seat every night and then, if they and then, if they don't want to buy season tickets, can I buy season tickets to sit in the Grimace seat every night and then, if they don't want to go to the game, they'll make money selling the tickets Because, oh yeah, you can sit in the Grimace seat. Well, you just gave somebody a great idea. I don't think I've given anybody an idea. I think people are already lining up to try to do that. You think they're on it?
Speaker 2:I would think so, yeah, or is it just when Grimace comes? That's his seat. Grimace wouldn't fit in the seat. Oh, poor Grimace.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's up a lot of stairs too. It looked like. Oh, that'd be terrible for him to go up the steps. Yeah, he's lovable, but it's hard for him to get around. He's a big old fella. He's a larger guy. He's a larger fast food mascot. He's a larger guy. He's a larger fast food mascot.
Speaker 2:It's hereditary, he can't help it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean it's all those french fries and Big.
Speaker 2:Macs. Well it's, the Hamburglar is feeding him all this stuff and you know what's he going to do. Yeah, you know it's tough over there in McDonald's land. It must be, it must be, it must be. I mean, mary McCheese ain't doing nothing about it. Well, I mean, is he ever? No, no, he's over there eating, cannibalizing his own food himself.
Speaker 1:He's a Big Mac eating Big Macs. We get down some rabbit holes on this show, but I didn't think analyzing the politics of McDonald's land was going to be on the docket today, but here we are.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the Fry guys are just sitting there looking just all paranoid like, oh, we're next we're next.
Speaker 1:Yeah right, it's just my goodness. But yeah, I mean, the Mets have played really well since this whole Grimace phenomenon started and they, like you said, they've embraced it. I mean, one of my favorite moments of the year, of the season so far, is when they had that rain delay and it's just pouring rain and there's water pouring off of the stands and there's this dude in a crude Grimace costume just shotgunning beers, yeah, like screaming and rallying the fans. And you know the Mets loved that because most people would have been like, okay, it's time to go home, there's not going to be a game, but these people are still buying beer and hanging out and cheering when it's just raining.
Speaker 2:They're loving it.
Speaker 1:They are loving it. It invigorated the fan base. Yeah, gave them something to rally around In a real way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, and and so you know not that the mets fan base needs to be rallied, because they're a very loyal fan base um it just it gave people a reason to come out to the ballpark every day yeah, it gave people a reason to pay a little bit closer attention to this team and it really sparked a run that's going to you know it's looking like is going to lead to the playoffs for the New York Metropolitans. So good on them, I mean. As far as I'm concerned, it's good for the Mets, it's good for baseball and, who knows, maybe the Pirates will bring Birdie out next year and give it a try. Yeah, who knows?
Speaker 2:I mean this could really open up for some sections in all the ballparks, for all of the mascots.
Speaker 1:What is cooler the purple Grimace seat or the toilet seats we talked about with Lake County?
Speaker 2:I got to go with the Grimace seat or the toilet seats we talked about with Lake County.
Speaker 1:I got to go with the Grimace seat. Yeah, you like it better, I like purple. Yeah, okay, that's fair. Yeah, that's fair, it is a cool color.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I just keep in my mind. I'm just going through this whole thing of the McDonald's land and they're all trying to get there, to get to the seat.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're all trying to get there to get to the seat.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah, Grimace is all excited. I don't know. I just got this whole imaginary world in my head about this.
Speaker 1:Well, two things. First off, at one point during the initial Grimace craze, mcdonald's changed their social media profile pictures to Grimace in a Mets hat.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah sure.
Speaker 1:So they've embraced it just as much as the team has, right, and again, I think they're probably making money off of it, of course. So that's what is, at that, the other thing. We were talking about how cool of a color purple is. Did you know, brian? I read this article a couple years ago there was one point in the 90s where the Dodgers considered changing their primary color from Dodger blue to purple. No, that's wild, yeah, can you imagine?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That would have been. Well, here's the thing. I think the fans would have hated it and it wouldn't have lasted very long.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But it would have still been part of the history Because it's so iconic their colors, I know and it would have been to me it would have been like a symbol for a really not-that-great time of Dodger baseball.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, you look at the great teams of the 50s and 60s and then the late 70s, early 80s, the great teams and then late 80s they're the underdogs and they win the World Series with the Kirk Gibson home run when he could barely walk, and Oral Hershiser had a historic season that year, and then there's a dip and then now it's like back to what the dodgers are supposed to be. But there's that like 90s, early 2000s era. That's kind of like an eyesore compared to the rest of it. You know, um, at least from like the 50s on and definitely in the los angeles years. Yeah, you know that was sort of the big dip in the los angeles era of the dodgers and and you know I'm happy of course to see they've come out of that and um and gotten back to prominence and I think they're there to stay of course with the new ownership and the new the way they're doing business, um, but yeah, I mean, it's just hard to imagine the dodgers in anything but blue.
Speaker 2:I know purple I mean, who else uses purple?
Speaker 1:the rockies, the rockies and then, when they first came around, the d-backs. But they've changed now right to the, to the red and right. Um, I actually like the diamondbacks. Look now, because before they were doing like the red with the sand color and then they'd have like a subtle teal. Yeah, it didn't work, but now they've embraced the teal completely and I think the red and teal look really good together. Yeah, you know, on a consistent basis. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I like the. I know you don't like them, but I like the ones that had that. It might be the one you're talking about that had the real bright letters but the very dark kind of off-putting color to the jersey and it was almost reflective.
Speaker 1:Well, the one that got me was they would wear their home whites and everything was the same except the numbers were teal. Yeah, and it was bright and reflective and it was like it just didn't look right. It didn't look good at all because it clashed with the rest of the uniform. Now they're using red as the primary and the teal is like the accent color and again, with it being consistent, it looks a lot better. Yeah, downright passable even. I mean it's a good look. But can you imagine if you, you know, let's say, the dodgers change to purple, the rockies come along in purple and then the d-backs stay purple and teal?
Speaker 1:oh, that's too much there's three purple teams and they're all in the same division yeah, that's, that can't happen, that's, that's that's gonna freak me out but I it's kind of cool that the rockies kind of own purple, yeah, you know, like it's their color, because nobody else is using it and I don't think anybody else will, at least not prominently, you know. I mean, maybe it's like an accent color at some point. But you know, um, it is kind of cool, the rockies are the purple team it is, it is, it is, and I like the rocky city connects that are green uh, did you see?
Speaker 1:actually this week they announced they're, uh, they're getting new ones next year, they, they're retiring the green and white.
Speaker 2:Okay, no, I didn't see the new ones.
Speaker 1:They haven't shown them. They've announced that next year they're going to unveil new City Connects. I got you.
Speaker 2:Well, and I like that, that the City Connects are for a couple years or a season or whatever, and they come out with new ones.
Speaker 1:See, I don't know that I like that. You know I don't know that I like that. I get why they're doing it to sell more jerseys and make more money, because it's Nike and they care more about making money than making sure the uniforms are wearable and comfortable for the players, which is a whole other discussion for another day.
Speaker 2:Nike called and said ease up, brother, You're a little stiff.
Speaker 1:Well, uncle Phil, you can suck it, because your company is horrid, especially for slapping your logo on these cheapo fanatics jerseys that are worse than what I wore in Little League, wow.
Speaker 2:Tell me how do you feel about this.
Speaker 1:Well, listen, I defended them. I defended them hard because at first people were like, oh, the numbers are too small, I don't like it, and they're just bitching to be bitching. Then the players get them on the field and they're tearing and ripping. If the players sweat, they sweat right through them. I mean, that was the thing.
Speaker 1:Major League uniforms were supposed to be custom made and like very nice, and they're just not right now and they're addressing it. I understand they've already announced they're addressing it and they're hoping that start of next year they've they fixed these issues, um, but between fanatics and nike, neither one of them's got any business making these uniforms right. Like you know, at the if that's what they're, if that's what they're putting out there, I major league baseball, I said you know what, we're breaching contract, fuck you, we're gonna go find somebody that knows what they're doing. Yeah, you know um, because, again, this is a player's first league now, in a way that it hasn't been in a long time, and if the players don't like them, you got to change them, you got to get rid of them.
Speaker 1:Because you know um, these billionaires wouldn't be billionaires without the players. Well, that's true, you know. It's just the long and short of it. They wouldn't have all their money that they sit on and act like they don't have if it wasn't for the great players and the personalities of the players. That's why people buy tickets and buy merchandise and buy hot dogs and beer because they come to see the players. They come to see the stars of the game the Otanis, the Harpers, the Bobby Witt Juniors see the players. They come to see the stars of the game the Otanis, the Harpers, the Bobby Witt Juniors. You know guys like that. They sell tickets and that's how these billionaires make their money is by selling tickets. Because if you buy a ticket you're going to have to buy something to eat, something to drink, you're probably going to get a souvenir or a jersey or a hat Remember.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know just something. Yeah, you know just something. And even if you don't go to the games you're ordered, you know, like me, I don't go to a lot of Dodger games because they're on the other side of the country and that's an expensive trip. But you know, I order all kinds of stuff online and they make money off that too, Right, right, right, it is what it is. Are we like right at an hour? Yep, sure are. That's perfect about tapped out. Unless you have anything else, you want to get off your chest.
Speaker 2:No, no, I'm good man. I'm just writing my stooge report to Nike about you, Okay.
Speaker 1:Well, tell uncle Phil. I said fuck you. Um, all right. Well, uh, we covered a lot of ground today.
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