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Episode 4: Emo Scene
Remember the days of excessive eyeliner, studded belts, and colorful hair? Join us as we reminisce about the emo and scene culture that defined our youth! Travis, Kayla, and Julia kick things off by sharing personal stories about the transition to skinny jeans, the significance of jelly bracelets, and the crazy rumors that spread like wildfire during our school years. Ever heard the one about Marilyn Manson? We also touch on the image-driven "scene kids" who were more into the look than the music, often found T9 texting at the back of shows.
We then explore the fashion trends that made the 2000s unforgettable. From eccentric hairstyles and Converse shoes to spiked accessories, we discuss the pursuit of the perfect scene look and the quirky combinations of fashion elements that made us stand out. Our conversation includes personal anecdotes about the lengths we went to achieve the ideal hair texture and the emotional impact of emo music with bands like Secondhand Serenade and Taking Back Sunday providing the soundtrack to our lives.
Finally, we delve into the world of Christian rock and metalcore, sharing memories of church camps, small venue concerts, and the unique culture of those environments. With bands like Haste the Day and Flyleaf as our backdrop, we recount unforgettable concert experiences, including the drama of packed crowds and the phenomenon of parents bringing babies to concerts. We reflect on the evolution of Hot Topic and the role of social media in discovering new music. Tune in as we relive these cherished memories and look forward to future concerts.
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Speaker 2:How many buttons do you have? Eight buttons, and we're gonna keep pressing them, keep pressing them. How many buttons do you have? Eight buttons? Eight buttons, and we're going to keep pressing them, keep pressing them. Hello, and welcome to episode four of you Feel Me Dog? I'm Travis.
Speaker 3:I'm Kayla and I'm Julia.
Speaker 2:So on this episode we're going to be talking about the emo scene or just the scene back in the day, 15 plus years ago. It could be 30 years ago, I don't know how old are we.
Speaker 1:Old enough.
Speaker 2:Okay cool.
Speaker 1:Let's feel our feelings.
Speaker 2:Who's ready to get sad and stuff One, two, three go.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I want to cry eyeliner, I'm ready, oh my gosh, cry eyeliner.
Speaker 1:I'm ready. Oh, my gosh Cry eyeliner. I forgot about that.
Speaker 2:Did people do that as photos?
Speaker 1:Oh gosh, travis. Yes, I wish I could find the picture of me when I drew my eyeliner so far out kind of like a cat eye.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But then I also brought it down. Oh, it was bad.
Speaker 3:That was a thing, Just gross, and it was just so much eyeliner. You know we're sad girls, so if you cried it was also just coming down black. Oh my gosh, Our parents didn't love us enough Cry.
Speaker 2:Right, mom, what is a razor blades in? Oh my God, we're fucking starting out really dark guys. Here we go. I can buckle up. Don't feel sad for me, guys, here we go, fucking, buckle up. Don't feel sad for me, though. I feel okay.
Speaker 1:I have my anxiety meds and they work, so that's what matters.
Speaker 2:So let's just get into the fucking clothing and the scene, the fashion, back in the fucking day. Dude, it was awesome and it still kind of is awesome.
Speaker 1:It's still awesome. I think we're just more used to it now.
Speaker 3:Oh for sure awesome, it's still awesome I think we're just more used to it now oh for sure it's nostalgic to us is now coming back we're seeing everything come back now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, everything's almost 90s, 2000s, ish, right now it's harder.
Speaker 3:it's harder to find the scene, quote scene fashion, because I don't even know if I would say hot topic is really. I mean, you go there and you find like wolf shirts, right, twilight shirts.
Speaker 2:Vampires.
Speaker 3:Bob's Burgers.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:Hello Kitty, yeah.
Speaker 2:What the fuck, dude? It's so fucking stupid.
Speaker 3:But the thrift stores are popping off with it now. Oh I bet, oh yeah, the amount of like studded belts I'll find, oh my gosh, yep. And again, again, just I'll buy them, just because, why not, there might be a moment that I need them.
Speaker 2:You might need that someday I need it for sure dude yeah it's really cool, I mean what do they say? It takes like 10 plus years for shit to come back around, right, I mean, it's been over 10 years and it's just coming back around, dude but I remember it was like the seventh ish grade for us when boys started wearing skinny jeans yeah, they did it before the girls did yep and then everyone made fun of them.
Speaker 3:And then, six months later, everyone's wearing skinny jeans.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, that's true. I could never back then.
Speaker 3:I'm like gosh, no way, dude, give me some basketball shorts and I'm good to go, adam sandler, and it up right, fucking hey dude trav, you were big in the scene and you weren't wearing skinny pants.
Speaker 2:I was thinking about this the other day. I think I was more of like just a metal head within the scene. I didn't dress like the scene kids did, I just wore like metal band shirts majority of my high school career and that was it.
Speaker 3:That's fair.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Because you didn't feel like you needed to dress up art.
Speaker 1:No, he didn't need to be on brand. I dress up art.
Speaker 2:no he didn't need to be on brand. I'm not a fucking poser. I know what the fuck I like and who I am. Motherfucker, fuck these kids in this goofy ass, fucking colored hair oh, travin colored my hair all the time dude, you know what's funny about that? Like even back in the day you didn't see those kids really at the shows ever they were not that those shows so I I only went to a handful.
Speaker 3:A lot of them. It wasn't my ideas, I was just like going with someone else. I was a little bit out of my element. But the ones that did dress like that were in the back in the corner with their heads down on their phones what, yeah? And when I say on their phones, they were t9 texting oh my gosh that long ago. They were there because they felt like they should be there.
Speaker 1:They're dressing the part, but they weren't like actively at the show yeah, they were there, so they could say that they went take a picture in the bathroom right posted on our myspace feed yeah, well something okay, so I told travis about this earlier. But I remember the gel, the little jelly bracelets that we used to wear. Oh, yeah, oh, I knew how to tie those Like I was good at looping them on each other and doing the different designs with them, so I would wear that too. Those took the world by a fucking chokehold.
Speaker 3:Oh my gosh dude.
Speaker 2:What the fuck oh.
Speaker 1:I love that shit it was so good.
Speaker 3:And then didn't they say this is so stupid. If a guy broke one of your bracelets, then it was like a sex bracelet or something. Yeah, where the fuck did that come from?
Speaker 2:Fucking rumors, dude it's like fucking mythology almost.
Speaker 3:I think rumors when we were in middle school spread faster than they do on the internet.
Speaker 2:And it's usually the dumbest fucking kid, right.
Speaker 1:Oh for sure that fucking starts it, dude, it's just the dumbest fucking kid right, that fucking starts it, dude, it's just someone seeing if they can influence other people too Exactly Fucking assholes.
Speaker 3:Who was the Manson guy? Who did they say that he like removed a rib so he could suck his own dick?
Speaker 2:Do you remember that rumor? I do remember Marilyn Manson.
Speaker 3:Did everybody hear that exact same rumor?
Speaker 2:that went to like Right, I don't know anyone that doesn't know that rumor. What fucking dumb ass started that shit? Yeah, yeah, fucking make this shit.
Speaker 1:I post it. That's hilarious. Put it in the newspaper.
Speaker 2:Put it in the newspaper yeah, but going back to the clothing dude, everything was very fucking neon it was very very neon dude and striped. Like a lot of like sky blue t-shirts and like bright pink and the fucking logos, dude. Oh my gosh, the band fucking logos.
Speaker 3:Neon green. I love that. It was always like square, like, so you'd have like a black t-shirt and the design on it would be only within a square. Yeah, like they couldn't use the whole shirt or design, it was just we had to fit it into this square or design.
Speaker 1:It was just we had to fit it into this square. That's what I'm wearing right now. Yeah, yeah, within a square it just says currents with a little flower, and that's it.
Speaker 2:That's funny it was all very childlike, I feel like even the fucking candy necklaces and bracelets, yeah, chunky yep, like the logos of the band t-shirts were fucking teddy bears and fucking pac-man like a day to remember had. Like that was her biggest shirt, was pac-man on it and that shirt is so cool it's fucking so.
Speaker 1:Dope dude oh, that shirt is so cool. I remember going to their concert recently and I was like I want that shirt so bad and travel's like yeah, that's from like 15 years ago. You're not gonna find that shirt for cheap. Actually, travis has one. I found a bunch of his old band t-shirts recently. They're upstairs right now so many dude so really many band shirts, but he has one.
Speaker 3:He has the back man shirt so watching people thrift though they come and it's always like a younger group and they're the ones that are wearing the cargo, the baggy pants. Very, they'll wear nascar t-shirts with black pants, wide leg chains, a shit ton of pockets, but then like a cropped NASCAR t-shirt. It's fucking wild to watch these guys. It's weird, and it's usually groups of guys, but they'll like, they'll hold stuff up, but I'm like, holy shit, I think my parents donated that like 15 years ago and they are like, they just hit the fucking jackpot yeah.
Speaker 3:I was like we are here looking for different things.
Speaker 1:Oh man.
Speaker 3:I'm looking for your grandma's dresses.
Speaker 2:It's been 84 years. Oh my gosh, who the fuck? The fucking hair dude Like the big, poofed up like swooped hair to one fucking side?
Speaker 3:Yes, what the fuck man but the straightened bangs.
Speaker 1:That's what I was going to say too, With the straight bangs so that you can only see out of one eye. Yep.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh. I mean, everybody was fucking straightening their fucking hair besides me.
Speaker 3:You're so cool, Rock that Jufro. I do remember thinking, because my hair was always straight and. I so badly wanted to be able to curl it or have curls, and then when the straighten your hair came in I was like I've never been more grateful.
Speaker 1:I'm already cool.
Speaker 3:Thanks, sheila, for those jeans. But speaking of the hair, it does. Everyone's hair is fried. Oh yeah, I remember for the girls that weren't allowed to color their hair. They would put like the little hair, almost like extension things, like the clip ins. It would be like bright pink with maybe like a leopard.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:You could even incorporate Lisa Frank into the scene in a way.
Speaker 2:Oh 100%.
Speaker 1:The neons.
Speaker 2:With those patterns? Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Everyone's fucking face is just fucking they, just everyone just grew out their hair, oh fuck I hit the mic they fucking had the converse fucking shoes on dude.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, it was so fucking oh my gosh, how many different colors of converse did you have um?
Speaker 3:we're poor so I didn't never get name brand until older unless I um, but I probably had about four off brand converse. Did you have, um? We're poor so I didn't ever get name brand until older unless I um, but I probably had about four off brand converse.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I I had so many. That's like what I would buy with the monies that I got. What about the? Shoelaces yeah, I was never big on switching my laces. It wasn't quite that far gone. But I also remember having a pair that was like patchwork, so it was like different shades of blue.
Speaker 2:I had those too everyone just fucking had gloves too and fucking like spiked wristbands oh for sure, whatever yep spikes in general, yeah sweatbands, yeah yeah, the sweat oh
Speaker 1:sweatbans were huge oh gosh. I remember actually one of my normal ear piercings. I started gauging. I didn't get very far.
Speaker 3:I'm like I've never that's one thing I've never really loved like big ass gauges yeah, only to a certain extent, yeah yeah, I went on a. This is a while ago, but I went on a date with someone. In our first date I saw that he still had gauges in. I'm like we're too old man, we're too old.
Speaker 2:Anything past 30.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I feel I don't know.
Speaker 3:I mean.
Speaker 2:But do what you want.
Speaker 1:Those are the people that never left the scene.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so power to you favorite fashion like statement or apparel of that era.
Speaker 3:Do you guys kind of have one or no? We got the belt, not just the studded belts, but almost like the punk rock princess scene type, which I think, kaylee, you more were, but a lot of them, the belts that served no purpose. They went over our pants, over our shirts, but we lived for them and they were layered I had a shit ton of them.
Speaker 1:I had so many and you would even wear like a small one with one that was just slightly bigger. I did that a lot too. I had like a black and a red that I wore together I love it why, why, who knows they were? They were doing nothing. I remember going to flea markets and actively looking for studded belts.
Speaker 3:I love it I would wear a lot of justin stuff. Oh, hell, yeah. So he, he would like have it, which is so funny, because Justin I don't even know how to categorize him Like you would be, like, oh, you dress kind of preppy, but you have, like, why do you have a studded belt? Oh, but also you, I don't know, just like Abercrombie, but he's also wearing Nike. It was just. It was a weird little thing.
Speaker 1:But also you know how to skateboard.
Speaker 3:But it was like at that time, if you didn't have a little bit of scene in you, then that was one of the big fashions, that's true.
Speaker 2:Unless you're the jocks and the popular kids. They didn't really do it, did they?
Speaker 3:No, no, not those guys.
Speaker 2:But everybody else, though they were cool, y'all cool, but I think my favorite one was just the fucking band logos. It was super melty, usually like the teddy bears, and just I don't know, it was just fucking fun. Dude and bright colors bright colors, yeah a lot of bright colors.
Speaker 1:It was great dude I I still, to this day, I still love fishnet the mesh. I mean, I still have a full body mesh. Oh, those are so fun like a jumpsuit that I can put on, then I can put my clothes on over it. I ever since that shirt that I was wearing back in fifth grade like two, three times a week because I loved it so much and it's the layering for me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so you had you layered your tank tops and then you would layer your long sleeve.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, very 2000s.
Speaker 3:Usually a striped long sleeve of a bright color and then a more muted black or white shirt underneath it. How many fucking layers we were sweating through this shit Like three tank tops Minimum. Yeah, yeah, and you'd feel naked if it was just one, that's weird you would you, would like, yeah, place them perfectly.
Speaker 1:Yes, you can see like the lace of one yeah, and I always had.
Speaker 3:My hips were always too big, they would roll up on me. Oh my god that's fucking awesome.
Speaker 1:That's hilarious. I do I. I dyed my hair a lot. It took a while for my mom to be okay with it and I think it finally was just like okay, well, if you're not going to be okay with it, I'm going to go to my friend's house and do it, which is exactly the first time I ever did it. I dyed my hair pink and it was at a friend's house.
Speaker 2:That was a very big part. Just everyone coloring their fucking hair different, yeah.
Speaker 1:But also as a kid, even anytime I would draw like self-portraits. I always put so many face piercings on my self-portraits. Do you remember that, julia? No, but that's so adorable. I used to give myself eyebrow piercings and I would give myself lip piercings, just all of it. I did it anytime. I drew self-portraits.
Speaker 3:Can you imagine Jen taking that to her therapist? This is what my daughter's doing. Yeah, this is her self-reflection drawing and I have some concern well, knowing jen, she'd be like, uh, something's going on.
Speaker 2:I think she's in a fucking cult right now. I don't know what's wrong with her, something is going on.
Speaker 1:This cult's called junior high I don't know what's going on it's called fucking american idiot by green Green Day. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh. So you know, speaking of music dude, like favorite bands in that era. I mean, did you have one?
Speaker 1:I listened to Three Days Grace all the time, yeah, all the time, to the point that I tried to draw their one album where it was a bunch of paper people. I tried to draw it in my room at my dad's house. Of paper people. I tried to draw it in my room at my dad's house. It was the first like house that we had when they got divorced and I got the room the previous owners had. It was like a baby room, so there's baby wallpaper and it was up high. So it was so much effort to take it off and I was like, fuck it, I'm just going to draw all over it and I started drawing the paper people over it from the three days grace album yes, one x.
Speaker 2:Did you get in trouble?
Speaker 1:oh yeah, oh yeah I didn't necessarily get in trouble. It was more so when we went to go sell that house, dad came to me and he was like so I never noticed before. But what is this?
Speaker 3:oh, it's a family that stayed together. This is weird huh, that's fucking hilarious, you motherfucker dude.
Speaker 2:Oh fuck, dude speaking of fucking heroin. Dude, another fucking band who did heroin and fucking made a fucking banger of a damn album, dude oh, I didn't know that yeah, I mean he got clean and then he fucking wrote majority of those songs image shattered.
Speaker 3:No, it's strengthened because he rehabs for quitters, that's true did he stay sober.
Speaker 2:Uh, I think he's still sober. Yeah, he's just not in three days, grace anymore, obviously didn't the?
Speaker 3:oh my gosh. What's the lead singer of corn?
Speaker 2:I have no fucking with the long hair yeah, and the dreads so I have.
Speaker 3:This is so funny. So when I first started seeing austin, my dad was like, tell me about him. And I was described him a little bit, then described his physical appearance. Yeah, seeing Austin, my dad was like, tell me about him. And I described him a little bit and then described his physical appearance. And my dad is very conservative and I was like, oh yeah, I got a lot of tattoos, he's really a piece of shit. And then the next thing my dad says he starts talking about the lead singer of Korn.
Speaker 1:Oh, my word.
Speaker 3:Because that is the picture that my dad pulled up from me, describing Austin with tattoos. Austin is bald, and then he starts telling me how this guy gave up that old lifestyle and is now singing Christian music.
Speaker 2:It's not the lead singer, it's their bassist that did that.
Speaker 3:We'll call Brian right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah he's a motherfucker. Your brother saw him talk at one of the churches nearby.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was recent. That was, that was recent. Actually. I forgot about that, yep, but yeah, that's fucking hilarious, brian brian, did you even know that?
Speaker 3:that's all travis listens to. It wasn't a phase.
Speaker 2:I'm not a phase, mom oh, it's never a phase, it's a lifestyle wasn't a phase and we're still here we are very much still here
Speaker 3:so I I really liked Dashboard Confessional. I liked more of the whinier side of the music. I loved Secondhand Serenade. Oh my gosh, but I was also taking back Sunday and then us being able to see them as adults. They never sound as good as I remembered, but it's fun to see them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, why did they sound like?
Speaker 3:shit, it's bad, it was bad.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm telling you, it's because they were smokers.
Speaker 3:Every time we see them they're bad.
Speaker 1:I mean, maybe a little bit of sound too. I guess that's fine, but I really truly think it. They were smoking so much back in the day. Their voices are just trash yeah probably dude.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and then I also. I really liked a Blue October.
Speaker 1:I don't remember you listening to them. That's some fucking sad shit. The.
Speaker 3:Hate Me song. I would listen to that on repeat.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, oh fuck.
Speaker 3:I never liked the happy music. Oh my gosh, oh my gosh no, I mean hopefully no one did back then oh, but so like the kind of when we're talking about poser scene kids, yeah I never would call myself a scene kid, I just enjoyed a lot of the things I would agree with that but I think they're the type of kids that like to never shout never.
Speaker 2:Oh fuck.
Speaker 3:I forgot about that band. That is like a really whiny but it's kind of upbeat, but that the hair to the side, like the selfies, the mirror selfies, like dropped hip but like when they put like their butt back and have their hand up, and what are some of the things that they would write on their hands?
Speaker 2:Oh, there, used to be guys, oh my gosh fucking destroy your computer right now that's exactly right.
Speaker 3:I forgot about all of that.
Speaker 2:I forgot about the fucking boyfriend and girlfriends with fucking rare.
Speaker 1:I love you oh that was a poser, poser oh my gosh, no, I I yeah when people would draw on their hands. I know I had some Facebook profile pictures like that too.
Speaker 3:So for emo night I had written on mine. I put she believed, oh my gosh. And underlined in she. I underlined like the H and the E, and then I underlined the lied part, and so it looks like he lied.
Speaker 1:Like she believed. Julia, that's so good. Yeah, that was so fun.
Speaker 2:Dude, you're gender fluid back then too.
Speaker 1:Hell yeah Fucking A brother. No, she did that for Emo Night recently. Oh.
Speaker 3:I was just showing everyone else how gender fluid I've always been.
Speaker 2:Emo Night. I guess, yeah, that makes sense. Why that was recently. That was recently.
Speaker 1:No, julia, I feel like you've always been good, like how you said. You weren't ever really quote in the scene, you just had fun dressing like it sometimes. I think you've always been very good at doing things ironically, so that is just flat out funny. Like, do you remember in high school when you had a LARP party or something? Oh fuck yeah, and you painted your whole body like purple. What, yeah, there was multiple times, Dude.
Speaker 3:it's so fucking weird looking back at those pictures. Oh, it's so weird. And my favorite part is my parents never thought a thing of it.
Speaker 1:They just let it happen.
Speaker 3:They're just so silly.
Speaker 1:And I'm like no, it was weird. No, but like we also weird.
Speaker 3:We also thought it was silly, but we knew it was weird yeah, your parents are beautiful that way.
Speaker 2:They just fucking like accept people for who they are, dude, even if they don't fucking agree with them. It's awesome. Good job, guys.
Speaker 3:You're the shit yeah, I mean we would paint our bodies in my uh sheet. Brian sheila would fund it. They would just get us a shit ton of foam swords. Yeah, and just let us just beat the shit out of the backyard so much dude, yeah, fucking a dude, but I don't know.
Speaker 2:Kind of moving on, just the myspace bands back in the days I, I always, will never forget this majority of the bands would have like they would insert like a clip from a movie, like a famous movie, like as their intro or like right before a breakdown they would have like a clip from something and it was just one of the most amazing things ever. Everybody, at least, like the myspace era, they were fucking doing this and it was the greatest thing ever, dude.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean kelly clarkson wasn't actually she had some sad songs, I guess. But yeah, I mean kelly clarkson wasn't actually she had some sad songs, I guess. But yeah, I just remember that one song break away.
Speaker 2:Oh, she has part of princess diaries in it but you know that's not a great example, but like that's a good example for sure I just I think that's funny this is cool kelly clarkson oh man, that was my divorce music.
Speaker 1:Oh, uh, oh, tell us what. What other divorce music?
Speaker 3:that was my divorce music. Ooh, ooh, tell us what other divorce music?
Speaker 2:That was my divorce music. This is like straight up emo shit. Let's fucking hear it. Tell me when you wanted to kill yourself.
Speaker 1:Oh, man guys, it never got that far. I was only a self-mute of later. Oh my gosh at church once.
Speaker 2:Oh fuck guys. Oh no, breaking the number one sin don't kill yourself at church. The first commandment. Do not kill yourself in this building. If it's outside, you're good to go, you're going straight to heaven, baby. No, no, no.
Speaker 1:I never tried to kill myself, for the record I was never that far gone in life. No, at church once they. I never tried to kill myself, for the record I was never that far gone in life Okay fair enough.
Speaker 1:No, at church once they did. It was like cardboard signs where you would hold up like this is who I used to be, and then you'd flip it around and be like but now I'm this, because I did I was I think that's what they call it Self mutilators. I don't know what the fuck ever I cut myself I used to cut myself whatever.
Speaker 3:I don't know what it's called no, I don't either whatever it was just called cutters back then well, that's because we were insensitive whatever, I used to cut myself.
Speaker 1:That's fine, but at church once they did the thing and it was when I was no longer hurting myself, and so I went up there and I was like self-mutilator and self-obsessed. And then, when you turned my sign over, it was like self-obsessed. And then, when you turned my sign over, it was like self-lover, and selfless or something like that, that's fucking awesome dude. I forgot about that Were you with your family.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, because, like you, go up on the stage one at a time. But I remember I went up and I'm pretty sure Eric went up. I don't know what his sign said. Eric is my stepdad. I don't remember what his said, but I know he went up there too. Okay, it was in front of the entire church I'm so sorry, eric, that was embarrassing yeah, it was in front of the entire church.
Speaker 3:They saw what you wrote.
Speaker 1:Yes, oh my gosh, no yeah, because one of mom's friends whose sidebar wasn't really her friend anymore, because after my parents got divorced she like stopped talking to my parents but she like texted mom and was like I'm so proud of kayla for going up there and admitting the things she's done wrong in her life you know that they're all at fucking dinner on sunday night, being talking just mad shit about what people wrote.
Speaker 1:That's so fucked up, but it's okay because at the end of it they say bless their soul oh, I didn't know that.
Speaker 3:That's fine, that makes it okay, so it's fine that reminds me of the good charlotte music video.
Speaker 1:Hold on you guys ever see that music video? It was just like signs of I don't know.
Speaker 2:It was very in the fucking scene and very much like that the, the self-harm kind of thing. It was just a really good like hey, don't do it yeah, it was fucking awesome. It was just a good song, good music video well, I'm just saying I. There's a good commercial for it, I guess.
Speaker 1:I mean scene era. That wasn't a face for me either, because I very much still. I now have real piercings in my face and lots of tattoos, yeah, but I no longer hurt myself, so like you don't have to hurt yourself to be cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're going to fucking throw a disclaimer in front of this fucking episode. Right the fuck now. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And we're going to put the suicide hotline too, because there's no reason for you to be hurting yourself. There's plenty of other people in the world that'll do it for you.
Speaker 3:But I hope you heal and you can joke about it with your friends at some point, because that's a rad line because it's really fucking funny.
Speaker 1:I went in front of my church and said that it's crazy, can you?
Speaker 3:believe. It's not fair. That's not fair. It's weird. You want to know what? So I this is this is a recent thought that someone had told me Okay, and he used to be a pastor, he's no longer with the church. Okay, but what he always, what he always hated about church was the music, because he's looked at it as just manipulation. Because music, you know, makes you feel things. Yeah, and he's like, yeah, he's like the emotion that comes along with it. He always thought it was religious manipulation.
Speaker 1:That's a really good way to say that because, like, when you go to church, camp or whatever, it's lots and lots of music worship.
Speaker 3:You want to know maybe worshiping was self-harm for you, kayla, because my favorite story ever about Kayla is dislocating her knee at church camp from worshiping too hard. No fucking, that happened when. How old are we? Like fifth?
Speaker 2:or sixth grade? Was that before or after? I'm embarrassed to be in front of everybody at church.
Speaker 1:It was before yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, kayla, go up there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, good, good, I'm pretty sure that was uh what the fuck so goofy? That was. That was in my really dark year, that's okay did you ever do eraser burns? Oh, oh, I have scars on my hand still from it. Hell yeah, uh-huh. And the ice and salt, yeah I have scars. I have scars from that too I actually the ice and salt.
Speaker 3:I remember my first time doing that was at church camp fuck yeah, hell yeah.
Speaker 1:Shout out to church camp. That's where you learn things. It's also where I got my ears pierced oh my you know what?
Speaker 1:that was the first place that I ever like truly felt made fun of by other girls was at church camp, because I think it was the summer between seventh and eighth grade and that's like when girls were really getting into makeup and I was still very much doing the dark, very emo makeup because it's what I liked and they were doing it all cute. And I remember a couple girls like one girl scrunched up my hair. One girl had me borrow a pair of her jeans side. I was messing around with some of the kids that didn't care what they looked like and I ripped her jeans and she was so pissed at me. I never wanted to fucking look like this to begin with. I just didn't because you guys made me feel like I was supposed to do this.
Speaker 2:That's mean I know, Wow, at a church, Christian camp, what? I've never heard of this either, dude.
Speaker 1:What the fuck? No one tried to touch me, but they definitely hurt my soul.
Speaker 2:You didn't get the full experience.
Speaker 1:Let me guess.
Speaker 3:The pastor never registered after he got out of prison. So would you guys say that church is seen.
Speaker 2:Oh man, dude, I mean speaking dude. Hasted Day, one of the biggest bands back in the day yeah, fucking, they were quote, unquote. A Christian metal speaking dude. Haste Today, one of the biggest bands back in the day. Dude, fucking, they were quote, unquote. A Christian metalcore band. Dude, a lot of those metalcore bands. They were claiming that they were Christian metalcore, just so they could kind of get in a little bit further and have just metalcore bands back in the day. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like straight up, without so many conservative people being like, no, fuck you, you're not.
Speaker 2:Right For sure.
Speaker 3:Yeah at people being like no, fuck you, you're not right, for sure. Yeah, I loved fly leaf.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they were technically christian pop punk. So what reliant k? Oh fuck, I love reliant k I still listen to reliant k yeah I, but I don't listen to switch foot anymore, oh I don't either, and I loved them back then, and that's how my dad justified them too.
Speaker 3:Dad was like well, the russian crock, the christian rock I think of the music that we used to buy from the christian bookstore, and one of them was kj52 I remember him what the fuck it's insane. He's a rapper and he has a song that goes my name is kj ak kj a5 2 and he sings it like 20 fucking times and I still have it in my head for this day christian fucking music all he did was say his name a bunch.
Speaker 1:That's it.
Speaker 2:That's the specific song that I remember by him yeah, well, if anyone that doesn't know, metalcore is basically like screaming and singing, a lot of guitar riffs and breakdowns.
Speaker 1:It's fucking epic as fuck dog it's awesome, yeah, well, and that was one thing I was thinking of too, um, just like concerts in general, because, julia, you went to a couple just because you had friends who wanted to go, um, I did not have a ton of friends. Freaking loser, I know I'm, as an adult, I'm OK with it now, but I just my entire life, I've only ever had a couple core friends. And I say all that because Trav and I had been kind of trying to think about different concerts that we went to from back in the day. I got none. I didn't go to concerts because I didn't have people to go to them with me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I just didn't go well, I just want to say, uh thanks, dad for fucking taking me a bunch of concerts and all taking all of us to the fucking concerts, because he fucking he went with us to these fucking shows.
Speaker 3:Is he the one that would take you? Oh yeah, for sure, fucking awesome. That's really we got a license.
Speaker 2:I mean he was fucking with us, dude that is really yeah it was fucking great. Thanks, dad yeah, like it's awesome yeah, but I remember when I was 16, my first show that we drove on our fucking driver's license. We went up to West Lafayette, dude, and there was a cafe. There was a cafe with like a fucking stage is probably like two inches fucking tall in the back, like where people could sit.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And it was fucking amazing, dude, and you could fucking hang out and fucking hang out with the band. We were like two inches from the band and there was probably like 50 other people it was fucking awesome.
Speaker 3:That is cool, would you mosh uh, in the early days.
Speaker 2:But once I figured out this isn't for me, I'm just right next to that fucking speaker dude yeah, you're there for the music, yeah oh 100 yeah I remember that fucking show it was, oh my god. I can't remember the name of the band, but every time time we saw him he would take a swig of water and fucking spit it on the fucking town. I'm like God. I hated fucking seeing them ever since that time, Cause we saw him probably five more times after that.
Speaker 3:I don't think I would enjoy that either.
Speaker 2:I was like fuck, this is stupid as fuck dude.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a whole nother level of extreme, yeah.
Speaker 2:But damn, I will never fucking forget that show. It was amazing. Yeah, it was so much fun, dude Good until they weren't.
Speaker 3:Hobo Johnson. The last two times I've seen him, he has taken a water bottle and splashed it on people.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And I kind of loved it, but Justin hated it Really, yeah Well, it's not like he actually spit on them, though, but the spitting, yeah that is bidding.
Speaker 2:yeah, that is who the fuck?
Speaker 1:wants that shit, dude I mean, I guess I could see it either way, like no, I don't necessarily want to get wet at an event that I wasn't planning on being wet at, because that's a different mindset yeah, okay, so haste the day.
Speaker 2:That concert was awesome yeah, it was fucking fun, dude, it was fun.
Speaker 1:I love those guys they, oh, it's just so cool that they're local too it was so fucking cool dude and that local too.
Speaker 3:It's so fucking cool dude. And that lead singer was fucking hot oh fuck.
Speaker 1:yeah, he's fucking awesome. I don't remember thinking that specifically. I always just count how many people are on the stage.
Speaker 3:Every band had a shit ton of people. Yeah that's true, dude. Do you guys remember who played before Haste the Day?
Speaker 2:Oh, darkest Hour.
Speaker 3:Okay, that was the one directly before. Oh, darkest hour.
Speaker 1:Okay, that was the one directly before yeah, yeah, I didn't love them. That's what we talked about too. They really weren't. I never got back.
Speaker 2:I never got into them back in the day and he's like I think they were fucking boring as shit, dude.
Speaker 3:Okay, so I'm going to talk shit about them.
Speaker 2:Talk shit.
Speaker 3:So haste the day. I thought, like I.
Speaker 1:You belong up here.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like you guys are all cool as shit. Yeah, the what Say it again.
Speaker 2:Darkest Hour.
Speaker 3:Darkest Hour. I felt like those were the type of guys you are, the older guys that just can't let go.
Speaker 2:Oh, straight up.
Speaker 3:Like the way that they looked, the way that they talked in between. Holy shit, how did I just forget Speaking of Christian?
Speaker 1:music. I was to say it if you didn't. Oh, my gosh kay, let go. I don't remember what that band's, so the band that went right at the gate. It was wolves at the gate wolves at the gate, so they played right before the darkest hour played and they are a christian metal band fuck.
Speaker 2:Yes, they are and they are.
Speaker 1:We got there right as they were ending their set and, holy cow, before they played their last song, the lead singer I mean it was a sermon, I mean he preached for a solid five minutes. I had enough time to go to the bathroom and start walking back to you yeah, hey guys, you got 40 minutes in.
Speaker 3:10 minutes of that is us preaching to the fucking gospel yeah it's fucking crazy so it was so he even used like preacher words yes, I was like he is in the church yeah, you can have dying in the emo era.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right, there, baby, you like talk about dying?
Speaker 1:He talked about dying and where you're going to go after you die.
Speaker 3:Which religion is all about death? Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, and that's one too. Disclaimer I do believe in God and I do believe in Jesus. Yeah, it's the relic of religion that I struggle really badly with and the people.
Speaker 3:Yes, and the manipulation, yeah, yes.
Speaker 1:And Travis and I have even talked about it before because we used to actually go into a church together. But even just Travis feels so judged when we go into the church and I also find the music very uncomfortable, Like I just want to hear someone say things that I also believe in.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so it's like challenges as a person. Yeah, say things that I also believe in. Yeah, so it's like Challenge us as a person. Yeah, on just hardships, dude.
Speaker 2:So I thought about this the other day for when we went to the AA meeting for your school oh yeah, when you're in nursing school Like I felt more comfortable there than I do at a fucking church, which is fucking crazy. Right, that's sad, it's so weird.
Speaker 1:That's my whole point, though no-transcript words out as I can as fast as I can.
Speaker 3:That way they hear what I say and I was like holy fuck yeah, dude he, he could have made it so impactful hey you are loved by someone beyond this earth, even if you did want to make it a little bit religious but you can still be like how fucking cool is it that you're here? Thanks for coming, Thanks for coming.
Speaker 1:Here's our last song. Yeah, Like, oh no man, he talked at us.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, especially at that show. None of those people give a fuck, I guarantee it.
Speaker 1:Well, and the same things he was saying and even I was like dude, you're talking at me, not to me. This is not cool.
Speaker 2:So that was the hi-fi setting. Let's talk about the Emerson, the good old Emerson Theater off of Emerson Avenue, dude, downtown, indianapolis.
Speaker 1:I have never been there.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's pretty close to Brookside Park.
Speaker 3:No, you're cooler than us. Travis, tell us.
Speaker 2:Literally it used to be a theater and they took out all the seats and built a fucking stage and that's the Emerson Theater.
Speaker 1:That's fucking awesome. That's really cool yeah.
Speaker 2:Cool shit. Saw Haste of Day there probably fucking ten times.
Speaker 1:Did you really Easily dude?
Speaker 2:I still remember one fucking time it was a big crowd and they were fucking moshing people constantly pushing and shoving, and there was a girl in front of me and her boyfriend's like got her arm wrapped around and I'm like right behind.
Speaker 2:I'm not fucking moving. So here I'm just fucking banging my body up against this shit like the whole fucking time. I'm not moving, she's not moving, I'm just gonna fucking stay here. Dude, fucking going back and forth. Dude, it was the weirdest fucking thing ever, damn my god. And the boyfriend was just like no, you're not actually gonna be touching her with his arm across.
Speaker 1:It was fucking hilarious which is like I'm actually not trying to touch her at all, and if you would just turn around and look, you would very much see it's the people behind me making all of us move yeah, also, you just have to know that going to a show like that oh my gosh, dude, fucking idiots.
Speaker 2:Dude, and I was an idiot too, because I would usually stand on the right side of the fucking stage, right next to the fucking speaker, which is why I can't really hear on my right ear, because back in the day you're definitely not fucking wearing earplugs.
Speaker 3:No, you ain't cool so that is something that I'm noticing more at the shows. Yes, everybody has earplugs and it's cool oh yeah, in between sets. You see, immediately everyone take them out and then, as soon as they come on, people start clapping everyone puts them on.
Speaker 2:It's so fucking awesome it is awesome quick plug. Uh, eargasm are fucking amazing. Yes, plugs, dude, for concerts. If you want to fucking go get some cool ones, yeah, we'll put a link down below, for sure I am a little bit of a hater when people bring babies to shows.
Speaker 3:I think it's weird. Even if they have the headphones on, I still just think these shows are way too loud to have a fucking baby. I think it's crazy. Also, I don't care if you're 20 feet from me moshing. I don't want my six-month baby to even be close to that.
Speaker 1:Well, it kind of makes me think of going to motocross and monster, monster jam and whatnot too, because people take little kids to that. So it makes me wonder how much those earphones actually cancel out sounds, the earbuds that Trav's talking about, the Eargasms, what is it? It takes it down like 15 to 30 decibels, like you can kind of choose how strong you want your filter to be.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's awesome.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it filters out like basically, however much you want it to filter out. So I wonder, just with the headphones, is it like all noise canceling, so then they just can't hear shit, because then what's the point of you being there?
Speaker 3:let me tell you this if you're going to motocross or monster jam, you ain't buying top of the line head care that's not happening.
Speaker 1:You're getting the free ones you know what's at the end?
Speaker 3:It's fucking demolition, derby Mama spent all the money on fireworks this year. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:Phantom fireworks. Bringing it back to the second episode. I just remember the fucking Emerson had the fucking shittiest bathrooms ever. Dude, just graffiti and just gross.
Speaker 3:Needles. Oh my gosh dude.
Speaker 2:And if you were under 18, you couldn't leave dude. And if you were under 18, you couldn't leave dude. What, yeah? Why? You couldn't leave Demerson, so you could leave, but you couldn't come back.
Speaker 1:You couldn't come back in, basically. Yeah, but if you were older than 18, you could leave and come back. Yep, why?
Speaker 2:Underage.
Speaker 1:So they thought you were going to leave to go drink or something and then come back.
Speaker 2:They have like an obligation right Of some kind of like terms of I don't know.
Speaker 3:Interesting, yeah, it was so fucking stupid dude.
Speaker 1:That is. That's fucked up, cause that's not how the movie theater is Like. You buy a ticket to the movie theater, you're allowed to leave the theater If you were like underage and you were forced to stay the whole time.
Speaker 3:That would make sense. Being like okay that for liability for them, yeah.
Speaker 1:He was for them. Yeah, he was here for this time, but the fact that you're able to leave whenever you could leave, go, get drunk and then just be right outside of the building for when your parents came to pick you up there was a cvs right there and I'm pretty sure there was a burger king.
Speaker 2:I mean, come on, dude, oh my gosh. So I do remember fucking the hardcore kids coming to these shows and like trying to pick fights and fucking pushing people and shit. Dude, I believe that, oh my gosh.
Speaker 3:The last show I went to austin and I went to one about a month ago, um, because one of his, one of his really good friends is in a band, cool, so he had their band had performed, but it was like two really young, like college age bands. Before and between each set we would all go outside because it's a really small place it's. It's literally in an like an office strip.
Speaker 1:It's so cool.
Speaker 3:It's called the healer. It's very, very DIY.
Speaker 2:So it's cool.
Speaker 3:It's really neat.
Speaker 2:Very cool.
Speaker 3:But every time we would go out I felt like I was with high schoolers, but they again it was like just young college kids fucking, beefing with each other and I was so hooked and everything is like get the fuck out of here, man. Yeah, motherfucker over and over again and then motherfucker. So we I was like I gotta figure out what's going on. And someone was sending like underage uh, or sending pics like underage girls, oh, oh, fuck, and there are beef in here and then people writing in the parking lot. So just saying that it was like this crazy drama that I haven't been a part of.
Speaker 1:I can't even tell, and so long.
Speaker 2:Dude. I remember seeing Asking Alexandria at the Emerson Theater and they pulled up some chicks like two chicks, oh no, and flashes your titties.
Speaker 3:These two chicks fucking flash everyone they're titties, dude, was that your first titties you saw in real life?
Speaker 2:no, I think that was probably in, uh, middle school. I probably like, was it family values tour or whatever. You know, the beads flashes with the beads. Oh my gosh, oh my gosh but still I'm just thinking about that. Probably like the engineers, probably 24, 25. He's like oh fuck, these are fucking teenagers, dude. What the fuck I mean you're right, though I mean I've been thinking about this lately too.
Speaker 2:Like majority of those fucking bands, they were, like all fucking teenagers, dude, maybe like a year or two older than fucking what we were dude, yeah yeah it's crazy. They were fucking making bangers like that. It's awesome. It is awesome, is awesome. I love it. Man, it's a cool thought. I still remember seeing we Came as Romans at Attica High School.
Speaker 3:Oh, my gosh At Attica, amazing Fucking.
Speaker 2:Here's just a little tidbit, but the cemetery located right behind the fucking high school is called Riverside, and Riverside is like a podcast brand where you can edit your fucking shit. Dude, that's funny. I just thought that was a cool connection that is funny but a high school like in the middle of a fucking neighborhood and right by a cemetery.
Speaker 1:Dude, that's attica high school for you it's amazing, and you saw a band there it was so fucking funny because there was again.
Speaker 2:There was probably like 20 kids there and then there was just a line of fucking parrots like 30 yards behind everybody else.
Speaker 1:It was so fucking funny, dude hey, I'll take you to the show, but I'm not leaving.
Speaker 2:Yeah, god, it was just so fucking cool back then. I remember sitting outside of the emerson theater smoking a cigarette, eating pizza with the guys from periphery and they're fucking like a huge band right now, yes, they are and back then it's just like this is the band yo. What's up, dog? You guys are just. You're standing next to them like you might as well fucking chill and hang out with these dudes.
Speaker 1:It was so fucking cool dude, that is cool Because they're actual humans.
Speaker 2:There was a band called Broadway. The guys from Fuck.
Speaker 1:I love Broadway the guys from Broadway.
Speaker 2:The lead singer fucking knew us because we would talk to him every single time that they would fucking come dude.
Speaker 1:Oh, I loved that band, the guy from Burden of a Day.
Speaker 2:I forget his name. His name was Kyle.
Speaker 3:He fucking knew us by names because we saw them every single time they came here. Dude, that's awesome. Where's?
Speaker 2:Matt, Matt, where you at dog.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's the stuff. That's cool because it kind of goes back to like the Gen Cons and everything. How we talked about like we don't really like.
Speaker 2:I used to know you once yeah I don't know that would be one of those things that if we, went somewhere and we had the opportunity to meet them I think that would be cool because it could be like dude, like we used to talk to each other on a regular basis.
Speaker 2:I know you don't remember me, but it feels more real to me that connection yeah, I remember one of these, uh, a texas band called bell epic I used to fucking message or like lead singer and shit back in the day on MySpace and I looked him up recently. He's like a really huge food Instagram fucking guy.
Speaker 1:Now no way he does like food stuff.
Speaker 2:dude, he was fucking awesome. It's so fucking funny.
Speaker 1:And now he's a foodie.
Speaker 2:Now he's a food guy making fucking TikToks and Instagram. Hey, that's so seen, that's so seen, that's so seen, so fucking seen dude?
Speaker 1:Hey, he was just in it for that phase?
Speaker 2:It's not a phase, mom.
Speaker 1:It's not a phase for us. It's not a phase mom.
Speaker 3:Do you guys have any shows that you're going to coming up?
Speaker 1:We have Under Oath in September. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I'm so fucking excited too. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Because we got actual seats seats for that. The hi-fi has an inside and an outside, so we were in the annex of the hi-fi. Outside it's only standing space and I'm sorry, but I'm old enough that I want the opportunity to sit down if I so desire oh my gosh, especially when it's on concrete for that long.
Speaker 1:Yes, you can feel it yeah, so if we're under oath, we paid to actually have seats, because they only have a very limited amount of seats. Yeah, and we talked about it. I was like, no, we're at the point where I'm okay with paying to have a seat I want it also.
Speaker 3:You're not gonna, you're not losing your mind.
Speaker 2:No, fucking under oath. Oh my gosh, that talk about a fucking emo fucking, yeah, heavy maker dude, it's gonna be awesome gosh dude you know what?
Speaker 1:I wasn't okay with doing stuff alone until probably college is really when I would do stuff alone. But one band I wish I would have just went and seen is the Used I love. To this day I still love the Used. Them and Sleeping Sirens, I know those aren't really Sleeping Sirens, yeah. They're not really like metalcore, they're in that same the Umbrella. Yeah, that scene.
Speaker 1:They're not really like metalcore. They're in that same umbrella, yeah, that scene kind of punk, all fuck. Those are two groups I really wish I would have went and seen, because I listen to them still sometimes from their old stuff and I'm like I'm so happy right now, even though this is so sad getting buried alive and shit you want to know who.
Speaker 3:I have just recently been listening to that. I think, if you don't already know, you would really like La Dispute, because I love spoken word.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 3:And then so Austin has like I can't believe you haven't heard of them, yeah. And then it's like, so sometimes they're like screaming at him, but it's just like, really almost like aggressive spoken word, which I fucking love.
Speaker 2:You would love it.
Speaker 3:It's very it's very poem he's like shouting like a hardcore style, like I really enjoy it it's awesome.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, I had. I had a really, really hard week at work this week.
Speaker 1:Yeah dude and so and I work night shift for people who don't know um, I'm a night shift nurse. So yesterday, like I couldn't sleep very good and I think it's just because my mind and my heart were just so heavy and Trav and I were sitting on the couch and he was like I think you just need to take a shower, like you just need to try to reset yourself, whatever. I just fucking started crying, I was crying and all that happened like he was like okay, let's just lay down, let's try to take a nap.
Speaker 1:I and all that happened like he was like okay, let's just lay down, let's try to take a nap. I couldn't fucking fall asleep. Hey, that's okay, mom, it's just a phase. But I I could tell if trap wasn't asleep. He was close to asleep, so I just pulled out my phone and I fucking started writing poems. I wrote two poems yesterday while he was asleep. Do you feel better it? It made me feel so much better.
Speaker 1:I was like I just need to get this out. I'll probably post one of them on our little link for this fucking good poem, because it was good fucking do a poem book, poem collection a poem collection. Sorry everybody, I'd buy it the novelette, if you will I'd fucking tattoo it on my forearm.
Speaker 2:All my words cover art will just be me when I drew you naked dude. That would fucking be awesome. We'll just fucking blur out the. We'll just put a white blob and just be a white fucking cover dude nothing else. Yeah, just negative space, you know it's negative space where your tits are at, but the rest of your body's there drawn fucking. I still know where that is. I know where that drawing is. What if we put?
Speaker 1:negative space everywhere except where her tits are.
Speaker 3:I still know where that is I know where that drawing is. What if we put negative space everywhere except where her tits are?
Speaker 1:That's the only thing you see. Are these eyes? Are they boobs? We?
Speaker 2:don't know Poetry. I think you could probably fucking get away with that shit.
Speaker 1:I think you could get away with it Fuck.
Speaker 3:What is on social media right now. I think they can try to get away with it because it's an artistic form. I'm like that's porn that's what the people like in manga oh, so at gen con it was one of those where what's it called like hi hentai hentai yeah, thanks, stanley there was this whole booth of hentai like porn yeah it's. It was one where people were looking at it non-ironically, yeah, but I felt like a little kid, like I wanted to giggle at some of this stuff.
Speaker 3:It was so fucking insane and the names of it and like, oh no, that's. Those couples are 1000 serious. They're actually being serious they like this yeah, dude and it's one where I try to. I don't I don't ever want to judge someone for what they're into, but I'm gonna tell you some of the stuff. It wasn't just like I can't believe you're into. It's like I can't believe that you aren't giggling at some of the stuff because it's so almost childish. Yeah, yeah, like one of those like bust your balloons.
Speaker 1:I'm like I couldn't even say that and be serious, like it's hey, trab, you want me to bust your balloons later? Fuck yeah, we dress up as a liquid squid snake lizard oh, I thought of a clown when I say that.
Speaker 2:It makes me think of a clown. I bleached my butthole last weekend, so let's fucking do kinky shit, ladies and gentlemen. I did not, so go fuck yourself. Oh my god, I want to change the subject. Let's talk about my fucking youtube channel let's talk about that, motherfucker.
Speaker 1:I want you to talk about your youtube channel, because I think it's fucking cool yeah, what do you think's cool about it? I think it's cool that you used to have a youtube channel. I think think that's fucking neat, trav. It's one of those things that's very like. You're just not an asshole, so you aren't someone who, just like you, would never just in a normal conversation be like. Well, I used to have a YouTube channel, you guys could still subscribe. If only, dude, if only, yeah, I got fucking taken down.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you had. Yeah, you had a substantial amount of followers, subscribers, I had over 10 000, I think it ended with like 12 000 fucking subscribers back in the day.
Speaker 1:It was awesome man that's cool.
Speaker 2:I would. I was a fucking little pirate back in the day. Well, for the fbi isn't fucking listening, but I would illegally download my music off. Fuck, this is even fucking cooler, dude. I was using a website where you could only get in through a fucking invite, dude. Oh, wow Me. And RIP Brendan. He was one of the fucking moderators, dude.
Speaker 1:That's so cool. That's where I would get my music, you know, because I didn't know that he helped.
Speaker 2:That's awesome. Oh my gosh, you can't incriminate him because he's dead, exactly. I'm pretty sure it was like one of those blog spots you guys remember.
Speaker 3:remember those it's called the music ocean is what it was. So if you think I'm fucking around, look that shit up, because it was fucking real bitch you're no, dax flame.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was fucking but I mean you met your friend steve because of that youtube channel, which is awesome, because when travis and I got married, steve was visiting the us because he's from greece, so he came to our wedding, stayed with us and then he hung out with our family. So, like Julia has met him, my whole family has met him, your whole family, travis met him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, steve, you're awesome. Bro Stavos, what up? Bro From Greece, what up?
Speaker 3:So you met Steve from YouTube.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because he had a YouTube. We had a little community. There was probably four or five of us fucking just like posting insane music, dude.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And we would just talk to each other, just share shit.
Speaker 3:That's so fucking cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's so cool. I mean that's how him and Steve have been like and they still talk to each other. I mean they were texting last week.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this week, dude, and I think back then on YouTube you can like post on someone's wall, kind of like how my space was you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Like right on the wall, right, yeah? That's kind of how he talked yeah, I mean, that makes sense, that's amazing and we just fucking stayed in touch.
Speaker 2:We just talked about music and, yeah, whatever we were interested in.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was awesome was it the first time at your wedding when he came? Was that your first time meeting him?
Speaker 2:in physical.
Speaker 3:Yes, oh my gosh, that's so amazing, yeah he's cool as fuck, dude, yeah, yeah he. I couldn't believe what he was such an extrovert and how cool and how just comfortable he felt people that he's never met in his entire life. Like all of us, it was a cool dude, dude.
Speaker 2:Me and him were like obsessed in the early 2010s, like self-improvement we're obsessed with, like those books and just like those youtube and just those YouTube channels, just trying to improve ourselves as much as we can.
Speaker 1:No, absolutely.
Speaker 2:We would talk about that shit, too, all the time. It was great, steve. I love you man, you're great bro.
Speaker 1:You're a cool little. You're a cool guy.
Speaker 2:I wish I could speak Greek, but I can't.
Speaker 1:Hey, steve, has that bald boy energy too. It's, I remember people would fucking email me like hey, can I?
Speaker 2:have this song, man? No way, that's cool. Oh yeah, dude, it was cool. Again, I was a pirate. I illegally downloaded one of the editing programs and I would edit pictures of the band as the music was going in, or whatever. I remember when I fucking downloaded An HD program where I could Fucking upload in HD, I was like fuck.
Speaker 1:Yes, motherfucker, I'm up, I'm up, I'm all the way up.
Speaker 2:Oh, my gosh dude. That was fuck dude. It was so much fucking fun, dude yeah man, that was just a fun community dude.
Speaker 1:I miss it we got travis like making art on the computer.
Speaker 2:I didn't even realize how cool it was until just now. It is cool, it's so fucking awesome.
Speaker 3:I love that you were sharing stolen music.
Speaker 2:That's so cool of you, I know and you know what fucking got me taken down was the fucking photos that I was fucking using, dude it wasn't even the music yeah, because I would just like go on google. I was fucking like 14 to 16 years old and just fucking take pictures. The fucking photographers would email me. Hey, these are my photos. Can you give me credit? I'm like give a fuck. Fuck you, dude.
Speaker 3:And all they wanted was for you just to say it was theirs.
Speaker 2:Just credit them. But back then YouTube was just fucking super Wild West and there was no copyright this, and so I was like I don't give a fuck. Nothing's going to fucking happen, Of course eventually something fucking happened because they changed the fucking rules.
Speaker 3:Yep, you can't just steal from people. You can, you. You just might get in trouble. It's fine, you can steal music.
Speaker 2:Oh man, hey, I was just using, like, my youtube as a promotional shit. Fucking. Hey, these are the bands, these are. They're awesome. Fucking go listen to these. I mean it's just all free promotion for them, you know I.
Speaker 3:That's how you had to back in the day, though you had to tell people about it well, I got a quick story, dude.
Speaker 2:I'm one of the editing programs I made like a chipmunk version of a bullet for pretty boy, one of their songs. I remember one of one of the guys. Girlfriends messaged me on myspace saying oh my gosh, they love this. I showed them. The whole band loves it. It was just funny and I posted another version of that's a bell epic song of. Like the chipmunk version, oh my gosh that's hilarious goofy man.
Speaker 1:It was fucking awesome well, what's funny about it, too, is just, you weren't doing it for money, you were doing it because you enjoyed it and you wanted people to go listen to those bands yeah, I was doing for fun, right and it was kind of like god, no one fucking knows about these bands because, fucking nine times out of ten no one knew who the fuck they were dude. But they listened to them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly God. So many fucking demos and EPs back in the day.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3:I do think Instagram. Their algorithms are so good that the people that you follow and based on what you listen to, you can still hear from a very new up and coming artist.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, it's not a phase, okay, yeah it's not a phase? Okay, it's not a phase but that was a good segue to the fucking hot topic how it was back in the day and how it is now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, back in the day was like lots and lots of chains fucking pleather.
Speaker 2:Yeah, uh-huh pleather, fake leather yeah, oh my gosh, plastic here's. Here's a crazy thing, but you could fucking buy cds back then.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you could, because you can't now yeah, because you know what the little stands they used to use for cds.
Speaker 2:It holds makeup and stickers now oh, no, that's what's in those little stands now, next time you go in there, look at it I remember going to a listening party for bull for my valentine scream aim and fire dude just standing there in hot topic just fucking listen to this fucking whole album. That's just amazing you know what?
Speaker 1:yeah, because in hot topic you used to be able to request them to play certain songs yes and then you would. You would just hang out in the store and listen to the music they were playing I forgot about that.
Speaker 2:You're so right you could fucking remember those like little tv screens and you could select it and you could stand there with the fucking headphones and listen to those songs, but yeah, I mean fucking Hot Topic nowadays is just like nerd and fucking geek. Central Might as well be Gen Con, the fucking store.
Speaker 3:Yeah yeah, it's a lot of anime.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's very much that nerd geek aesthetic rather than just like music.
Speaker 2:Well, it's not even fucking bands anymore, because like back in the day I could get a burden of a day shirt at fucking hot topic, because that's all that fucking was. Now it's just pop artists and fucking acdc and fucking ozzy osbourne fucking shit, you know.
Speaker 3:And then all again the rest of cartoons yeah, yeah it's no big small artist anymore yeah, no, it's not, and they did.
Speaker 1:Because did you have a broadway t-shirt? Yeah, I'm sure I did I just remember their cover art of one of their well, their one album the yellow castle and the blue sky.
Speaker 2:Yes, and it was awesome.
Speaker 1:Fuck yeah, I would have loved to have a shirt of them. Fuck, I remember printing out their lyrics because I so bad. They wanted to like know them. I would print out the lyrics and then just listen to the song over and over and over so that I would know the lyrics we would fucking smoke cigarettes with their fucking guitarists.
Speaker 2:Every single fucking show. He was cool as fuck he had glasses.
Speaker 1:He had glasses.
Speaker 2:That makes him cool yeah, I don't know that's what I remember, but dude, like at the end of one of their songs do, where they were just doing sweeps. They would get like the lowest to the ground while during that part, because they kept doing that for like 10 seconds but they would get so fucking low to the ground, just like their signature thing, like I can't wait for them to fucking play the song. Get really low it was awesome dude, because they would get so fucking low that was something you'd look forward to that's cool badass man hell yeah yeah, well, let's just fucking wrap it up with uh, what was your guys' first concert or show?
Speaker 2:Do you guys remember?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, my very first ever concert was NSYNC. I was in second grade.
Speaker 3:Amazing.
Speaker 1:And I remember Ryan fell asleep and at one point there were fireworks that went off and we were all sitting down and Ryan, like reflex, kicks me, fucking, hit me in the face. I mean complete and total accident, not on purpose that is.
Speaker 3:It's a good memory it is.
Speaker 1:It's just good, like it was a great show.
Speaker 3:They put on a great show fuck yeah, julian, what you got well, my first concert show in general was all like fucking religious singers, like it was a christian bands, like that. She Sheila would take us to those Sheila, but nothing else. But like this coffee shop in Plainfield, like old downtown yes, they converted it for that night and it was just in. We just moved into town. I would think I was in third or fourth grade and my parents came with us and I remember my mom and dad being so uncomfortable and I remember my dad making comments about how good the coffee was oh my gosh and I just that's what I remember from this show and my brother just always being like the cool one in the family, just like you guys just have to like be loose.
Speaker 1:We're like okay, okay well, the first show I ever remember going to where moshing happened was Nickelback Shut the fuck up, which is fucking hilarious because Dude their early shit was fucking hard dude it was. You're right, their early stuff was hard and I man, I fucking Nickelback and Breaking Benjamin.
Speaker 2:I loved Fucking Breaking Benjamin.
Speaker 1:Saw him so many times dude, one of the fucking best. Yeah, yeah, what was yours Trav?
Speaker 2:I dude One of the fucking best. Yeah, what was yours, trav? I think it was 07 Project.
Speaker 3:Revolution, lincoln Park. Dude, with my dad, you saw Lincoln Park.
Speaker 1:Like twice you son of a bitch.
Speaker 2:That was probably one of the best shows I've ever been to in my life. Dude, that first Project Revolution.
Speaker 1:I bet.
Speaker 3:Where was this?
Speaker 2:This was at Dare Creek.
Speaker 3:That's awesome, dare Creek, dare Creek.
Speaker 2:That was my first show. It was amazing.
Speaker 1:I loved it that's a great first show.
Speaker 2:That's an awesome first show, yeah we're all fucking seeing kids, trendies and scenesters, aren't we guys?
Speaker 1:very depressed. Yeah, that's a better way to say it I guess it's been fun.
Speaker 3:A little blast from the past, some good music it wasn't a phase, it wasn't a phase.
Speaker 2:Is that what the name?
Speaker 1:wasn't a phase it wasn't a phase.
Speaker 2:It wasn't a phase let's all scream our best, scream go. Thanks for listening to you. Feel me, dog.
Speaker 1:You guys feel me I feel you, dog, we feel you all right, see you guys next time.
Speaker 2:Bye.
