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Young QB's: Bryce Young Situation is a Mess, Caleb Williams & Bears, NFL Week 2 Talk & IT HAS TO STOP!!

September 17, 2024 • Sports Talk w/ Sean Little & Nick Harvey

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The Bryce Young young situation is a disaster. Join us on No Ketchup as we dissect the shocking benching of the young quarterback after just 18 games and how Lovie Smith's decisions have reshaped the NFL landscape. We'll delve into the potential future of the Bears with Caleb Williams at the helm, scrutinize their offensive line struggles, and question the coaching tactics that have led to a rocky start. Plus, we take a closer look at the key performances and questionable decisions from around the league, including Baker Mayfield's resilience, the Chiefs' early-season challenges, the Ravens' rough patch, and Kyler Murray ascend with new star MHJ. We close out the episode with a talk about some things that HAVE TO STOP!!


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Sean Little:

No ketchup, no ketchup. What's good, my people, Welcome to the no Catch-Up Sports Talk via Chicago. I am your host, Sean Little Big Nick the Quick with me. As always, we got a bunch to talk about because we back rolling weekly. You already know what time it is.

Sean Little:

Young quarterback, Bryce Young they got my man up out of there early. Second week. Canales not my guy, he's got to go. Jaden Daniels taking hits. Will Levis coach is asking him yo, what in the world are you doing? Young fella, You're not going to have a job too much longer, young fella, if you keep doing this. As I get a package in New York City, Caleb and the Bears we got to talk about that Around the shield. Baker the Chiefs, Ravens 0-2,. Kyler Murray dealing. It has to stop. What around the NFL just has to stop and needs to stop. Or the NFL or the world. We'll talk about it. No catch-up sports talk via Chicago. Let's get to it. All, right, had to let that package in real quick. Big Nick the Quick, how we feeling. Good bro, what's going on? Hey man, listen, I'm on my second cup of coffee without eating any breakfast. This has got to be. I'm Superman, Untouchable right now.

Nick Harvey:

That's me every day, brother. I usually do about two or three eat the breakfast and finish with the fourth cup, but I'm also we talked about this before. I'm a sicko when it comes to coffee I drink the entire pot daily, so yeah, yeah, see, that's yeah.

Sean Little:

I don't do all that. I be shaking Every day Need to, but it is. Yeah, man, my mind is running. I'm thinking about going out to Manchester to catch Arsenal, man City. That's how the second cup of coffee got me feeling bro, that's it, there you go.

Sean Little:

That's really it. Uh, all right, let's jump right into it, because we got a lot to talk about and you know how we eat up ours. We're gonna get to caleb william and the bears and iberflues and what's going on with shane waldron and the offensive line and did we not see some of this coming in camp or the? The offensive line is an uh atrocity. We'll get to the bears atrocious and we'll get to a lot of other stuff around the league, as I mentioned off the top. But let's start with bryce young, because this is a.

Sean Little:

This is almost unprecedented. It's almost unprecedented for a heismanrophy winning quarterback that goes number one in the NFL to be banished Unanimously. Number one, yeah To be shelved after 18 games. And before I forget Nick, I have to bring this up Lovie Smith changed the course of the NFL no bullshit. Lovey smith changed the course of the nfl no bullshit. In that last week 18 game where the texans went ahead and got a w because let's not get it twisted nick they don't win that game the texans get the number one pick. And who do they take bryce young? A vast majority of the teams in the league, including myself. I thought Bryce was going to be a good quarterback in the NFL, the poise there was one thing that translated from college to the pros was going to be Bryce Young's poise. He was a leader, he could make things work, yeah.

Nick Harvey:

And I think we talked about this at the time and I said, yeah, of course he's poised, he's playing in Alabama next to 10 other five-star recruits. He's not much to worry about, which was my thing from the very beginning, with a lot of these Alabama quarterbacks. Shout out to him, it's a lot of talent going on. They don't got to do too much, it's true, but Shout out McElroy.

Sean Little:

Yo Lovey wins. The Texans draft Coleridge. Bernard Stroud Stroud Bears get the number one pick. They pack it up or they don't pack it up. They draft Caleb. But it was a series of things. Oh yeah. Yeah, we traded it. We traded that pick.

Nick Harvey:

Got a whole bunch of picks. We got Carolina's number one this year, which leads to us having the number one and we draft Caleb, so we got Carolina's number one this year, which leads to us having the number one and we draft Caleb.

Sean Little:

So, yeah, very, very history-changing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, my bad so two years ago, yeah, yeah, yeah. But yes, man, I thought about that watching Coleridge the other night, hearing the Bryce news, I'm like this is all Lovey Smith.

Nick Harvey:

Yep.

Sean Little:

The Texans should put a statue out in front of NRG of Lovey Smith.

Nick Harvey:

They were mad at him about that. Their ownership was mad. They were like no, we wanted you to lose that game. Lovey knew.

Sean Little:

Bro Lovey saved the franchise and they don't even know it.

Nick Harvey:

Yep For real. D'amico owes him 10%.

Sean Little:

D'Amico. Everybody owes Lovey. Everybody hit Lovey on the side. I wonder what Lovey's doing right now.

Nick Harvey:

Lovey, I hope everybody hit Lovey on the side. I wonder what Lovey's doing right now. Shout out Lovey Sitting on the bag going to church, chilling.

Sean Little:

Big time Combing his beard Combing his beard.

Nick Harvey:

I'm rich, I'm rich. Maybe another college will hire me. Yeah, facts Shout out. Lovey Smith.

Sean Little:

Shout out Lovey Smith man.

Nick Harvey:

Leader of men.

Sean Little:

Leader of men Lovey Smith. Leader of men. Leader of men Lovie Smith. Leader of men Lovie Smith. So unprecedented, though yeah, Do you agree with the decision? What do you think about the decision? When you saw it pop up, were you shocked. I mean, the numbers are horrific.

Nick Harvey:

The numbers are horrific, and if you watch them play, if you've watched any of the games of the Panthers which, if you've watched any of the games of the panthers which, if you haven't, I don't blame you. It's not. It's not good football to watch. He can't throw the ball downfield, he shook out there. It's beyond the numbers. It's just when you watch it it doesn't look right. So I wasn't shocked. The only thing that shocked me is that on sunday night, canellas came out and said bryce is our guy, we're sticking with bryce, and no less than 12 hours later, uh, the decision is made to pitch the guy in favor of Andy Dalton. If I'm Kanellis, though, look, we know the deal with David Tepper, since he's been there. I believe that Kanellis is either the third or fourth head coach that team has had, and Dave Tepper's only owned that team for three years. So this is a guy who has a quick trigger on coaches. You saw it last year with uh. Who is my man's? Was it Frank Wright?

Sean Little:

Yeah, they fired him.

Nick Harvey:

Yeah, they fired him within three weeks of hiring him.

Sean Little:

No, it wasn't Frank. It was who did they start the season with yeah, it was.

Nick Harvey:

Yeah, I think it was Frank Wright. Yeah.

Sean Little:

They started the year with him.

Nick Harvey:

It went two games, it wasn't going well and they fired him. Tepper is known as is being this kind of guy, so if you're Canelo, it's like I'm trying to stay in this job. I know right now, as crazy as it sounds, andy Dalton gives me a better chance of at least looking competitive than Bryce Young, but I am shocked that you would essentially give up on a guy this early. Someone likened it to the Zach Wilson situation where it's like, hey, young fella, just sit for a couple games and you know, get everything back in order and come back out there. I don't think this is that. I don't think there's anything that you can pull from for this kid, and I worry that if they win a game or two, he's never going to see the field again in Carolina.

Sean Little:

Now let me just give everybody a recap of what the Bears moved to give, what the Bears received for Carolina to get the number one pick to take Bryce Young. At the end of the day, the Bears got Caleb Williams, DJ Moore, Darnell Wright, Torrey Taylor and Tyreek Stevenson. Four of those guys start for the team right now, today. Who doesn't? I guess Torrey Taylor's the punter. Yeah, but I guess that's where I was. I'm talking about like down-to-down backs, but yeah, I guess they're all like yeah, they're all starters. Don't disrespect the weapon, Torrey Taylor, he's one of our better players, low-key.

Nick Harvey:

He's flipping fields left and right. He's flipping fields left and right.

Sean Little:

Shout out TT, TTP. That's what we're going to call him TTP. Torrey Taylor punter Torrey Taylor, the punter he should hold out. He should hold out Low key. Go get a new deal, ttp. Hey mate, this doesn't look right, mate, hey mate, remember when Caleb sent him the message that you're not going to be punting very much, he's like you, sure about that, my boy Folks is punting every possession.

Sean Little:

Yo. So to go back to Bryce Young, since coming into the league last year, yards per attempt 5.4. That's 32nd in the NFL. There's only 32 teams. Touchdown to interception ratio 31st. There's only 32 teams. 68 sacks taken. That's 32nd. There's only 32 teams. Epa per dropback negative .24. What's EPA? Epa is estimated. Points added by the way for those who don't know Negative, so every time he drops back it costs them points. Yes, negative .24. It's 32nd in the league. There's only 32 teams.

Nick Harvey:

I've never heard that stat. Wait, every time he drops back, he costs the team points.

Sean Little:

Yeah, yeah, epa is a big analytical indicator. Yeah, we can chat about it offline.

Nick Harvey:

That's a good stat. Yeah, I like that.

Sean Little:

EPA is huge, passer rating 70.9. 32nd there's only 32 teams. So his win percentage it's a little 11 percenter. 32nd there's only 32 teams. So when you talk about just what he's done since getting in the league, I mean, maybe I feel some type of way about the overall situation because, yes, he's played poorly. There is absolutely no arguing that. Yeah, he's been in a bad situation Head coaches flipping all over the place, no talent on the roster but he hasn't shown any flashes of anything.

Sean Little:

And, nick, you know what this goes back for me. I've been pounding on the table for years, bro, and I know it takes a lot of guts and a lot of heart. If you're Bryce Young and you're Bryce Young's team looking at Carolina, you knew that was a disaster before you even showed up. I think more players need to pull the Eli Manning and the John Elway. Yo, I'm not showing up to this camp. This franchise is a dumpster fire. I'm not going. I'll go pick five before I go ruin my career. Nick, he's getting ready to be out of the league. Yeah, before I ruin my career, I'm not going to Carolina. There's nothing over there for me. I'm not going to Carolina. There's nothing over there for me. I'm not doing that. I think more number one, how much leverage the quarterback position has. I think more players should start imploring this option. Eli did it, bro, in everybody's face and didn't care.

Nick Harvey:

Didn't care How's dad doing. Eli's not going. He's not going to San Diego. We're not doing it.

Sean Little:

Bro, do not draft me. I'm not showing up, yep. All right, I want to be a dealer?

Nick Harvey:

Don't even.

Sean Little:

Don't think about it. I want to go make money off the field no one Off the field. I'm not about to go out to Qualcomm Stadium and play football where no one cares about it. I'm not doing that. I really think more players coming out with as much leverage as a lot of these guys do like yeah, no, don't draft me because I'm not coming and I'll do whatever is necessary. And it's an indictment on your franchise because y'all aren't running shit right over there. That's it and that's all so. But to get back to the football portion, I feel bad for Bryce Young, because when you're in a bad situation and the talent is maybe not what it needs to be to succeed, it is a dumpster fire, and a quick dumpster fire, and that's exactly what happened out there. This also goes back to something that we've been pounding the table on here at no catch up for literally seven plus years is, when you're a quarterback, you better have some ties to the coach my brother. Well, he did.

Nick Harvey:

He did for the one that the regime that drafted him was in was in there. They just only lasted three days.

Sean Little:

No, no, but that's what I'm saying. Yeah, so you better have ties to the current coach my brother for sure or you are going to be in bad shape. I want to say Carolina, flip GMs as well.

Nick Harvey:

I think they flipped the entire situation.

Sean Little:

So if you don't have, look that up for me. So if you don't have any ties to the GM or the coach and you stinking up the joint every week, you are on less than borrow time, Doc, you are in trouble.

Nick Harvey:

They fired their GM on January.

Sean Little:

So you better have ties to at least the GM. Yeah, because a perfect example is Joe Shane. He's got ties to Daniel Jones, has ties to Joe Shane, not Dayball Joe Shane. That's why he got a deal.

Nick Harvey:

Did you watch the Hard Knocks offseason? It's like Shane didn't want to admit how much of a massive mistake it was that he's paying Daniel Jones $40 million, doing everything he can to try to make the roster work around it, and you could see the lack of confidence in Dayball and anybody he talked to about Daniel Jones, especially when they were going through the Saquon thing. I would say anybody who wants to see turmoil, watch that hard knock. And when they're going through Saquon leaving, even the owner comes and says I won't be able to sleep if Saquon ends up on the Eagles. Two weeks later he's on the Eagles and you can just see that.

Sean Little:

That's what a building looks like.

Nick Harvey:

That's what a building looks like when you lock your quarterback in a quarterback. You don't believe in a quarterback who doesn't make you better into a long-term deal and you're just in shambles trying to figure out how to build around it. And it's played out for the first two weeks of the season, obviously. Yeah, I think for bryce young man. I think he has to get out of carolina. I don't think that he that anything good is going to come from him staying there. I don't think you can go back to him. I think his confidence has to be shattered at this point. Like you said, the situation that he came into and we're sensitive to quarterbacks coming into bad situations because we have seen it up front for what? The last two that we had going further, even back than that if you don't have the right things around the quarterback, it is really tough. On the other hand, he has not shown anything, even with fields we could say, hey, look, look, he does this, there's this, there's this. Like there's some hope to hold on to With Bryce Young. There's really nothing you can point to. He has played terrible, the organization has performed terrible. That's why I'm ultimately not surprised at this decision, but I'm somewhat shocked because to me it is waving a white flag on your second-year quarterback.

Nick Harvey:

And it also brings the question well, what was the Panthers' mission this year? Was it year two? Let's continue developing Bryce, or was it? We need to win as many ballgames as possible, and you're always trying to win games, but you know what I mean. Sometimes seasons have different themes. It's not let's try to go out there and go 4-13, so it looks like we fought hard. Sometimes it's like hey, for 17 games, we're going to put this guy through the fire and see if he's our guy, and to me it sounds like after 18 games of him being a starter, they've already made that decision. So he's definitely going to need a fresh start somewhere else. I just wonder what that looks like and if teams are are willing to take that. So I thought it was interesting coming into the year that there was no talk about him, like the whole league had kind of written him off. After last year I'd never seen a one-to-one pitch.

Sean Little:

No, not everybody. There was a lot of people like yo. I don't want to jump to conclusions on Bryce. Even Orlovsky talks about it all the time.

Nick Harvey:

It was, but not like you would think, like hey, year two, like with the amount of hype that he had coming in. I mean Bryce, like when we talk about unanimous number one, there was not a conversation between Bryce and CJ. It wasn't a conversation between Bryce and whoever. Remind me who was the third quarterback taken in that draft. There wasn't a conversation. This guy was a unanimous number one. This was like the guy you had to get. They were calling him steph curry.

Sean Little:

They said yeah, it was. Comparison to him is steph curry and and look, if it wasn't one, it was goddamn for sure number two.

Nick Harvey:

It was either going number one or number two yeah, yeah, and the number one would have been the uh, the dude, the pass rusher that will, will anderson yeah, well, anderson, yeah, yeah as far as quarterbacks go, this was guy.

Nick Harvey:

This was the number one guy and I thought going into this year it was very quiet for the Bryce Young situation. I think I'd said this to you before. It's just like man. No one is talking about this guy at all and it's almost like everybody saw what they need to see and apparently the Carolina Panthers did too. It's tough man and and I think that when you see other guys move quickly, like CJ Stroud, you know, like some of these other quarterbacks who have kind of hit the ground running, even go to a Brock Purdy, right you get.

Sean Little:

you start comparing your guy to that guy. It's not all the same. Wait, wait, wait. Yeah, Some guys take a little bit longer.

Nick Harvey:

Brady's been talking a lot about this. Brady's like look, it took me five years to be a starter at Michigan. It took me two years to start in the NFL. All that was development. We're now shot-nutting guys. So, yeah, I mean, we're seeing it. If we want to move into Caleb, we're seeing it with Caleb Williams. This is a different league.

Sean Little:

Hey, but this is a different league. Hey, but this is the thing. There is guys like Colbridge walking around. Sure, there are. You, feel me? So that's what makes it extremely difficult, but are they the standard or the exception? Yeah, that's probably a great point.

Nick Harvey:

Part of the reason we were so amazed by CJ Stroud is in the history of the National Football League we had never seen a rookie do that. We had seen rookies put up numbers before We'd never seen rookies put up numbers that led to winning. Not only We've seen rookies put up numbers before, We've never seen rookies put up numbers that led to winning Right, Like, not only was he out there doing his thing, they were winning ball games Right. And we saw Sunday night this guy's high level, Some of the throws he's making. I called you after the Nico Collins touchdown. I said, hey, look, man, run that back. That throw was extremely high level. He did some things on that throw that not a lot of guys are doing. The way that he tossed it up there, the way that he led him, the way that he put it in the spot that it was either touchdown or nothing.

Sean Little:

Well, we talk about this all the time. There's accuracy. And then there's what do we call it? We call it Joe Burrow.

Nick Harvey:

There's accuracy. Ball placement, there's accuracy and there's ball placement, ball placement. If you can place a ball, your receivers love you. You make your receivers rich by having elite ball placement.

Sean Little:

The difference is accuracy versus ball placement. You're exactly right, yep, all right quickly. Well, let me close out the Bryce thing. I think it's a combination of a really good, well-run organization. He doesn't look as bad as he's looked, but I'm still not sure he's an NFL starting quarterback. I think that's the easiest way to put it. If he was in a better-run organization that had some stability, he wouldn't look that bad. The fact that he's not an NFL guy and his franchise is a dumpster fire, it absolutely becomes an embarrassment how bad it looks on the field. Hey, and really quick real quick show.

Nick Harvey:

Shout out, shout out. Andy dalton's agent for always putting andy in a situation he's solid though where there's a shaky quarterback in front of him, he's gonna play that gets hurt he plays in dallas. Hey, justin feels is shaky. Let's get you the bears. Hey, I heard car's situation might be shaky. We'll slide you in there, don't worry, you'll be playing by week. Three Facts Shut up Facts. Shut up the Red Rocket man. What a career Red Rifle.

Sean Little:

Red Rifle.

Nick Harvey:

Even in Cincinnati it was like hey, carson Wentz is on his way.

Sean Little:

Or the next 10 years, and you won't have to win too much. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it, it's all good. All right, really quick, I want to touch on jayden daniels. I tweeted out I'll touch jayden daniels and we'll go to will levitz, then we'll go to caleb and the bears. But really quick, jayden daniels. I tweeted out I'm worried about this kid. They're running this dude like he like this is college football. Yeah, he took a shot in the ribs in week two because I was on washington. He took a big shot to the ribs that he was going to come out, end up staying in. But what I'm getting at is he can't be taking shots like that. He's too little. I've seen this movie quite a few times and this is not Josh Allen I'm talking about and I'm worried about Josh. This dude is 60 pounds shy of.

Nick Harvey:

Josh Allen, not even close to Josh Allen. Yeah, and he doesn't have the elusiveness of Lamar Jackson, to kind of escape a lot of that.

Sean Little:

Yeah, correct. So shout out, jaden, I think. Uh, hey, cliff Kingsbury is over there running the offense. He's got him distributed.

Nick Harvey:

We know he's an offensive genius, so yeah, and that's Mr.

Sean Little:

Get a Check too. So shout out Cliff, Shout out Cliff, Shout out Cliff Kingsbury. So the one thing I do want to touch on is Jaden looks good overall. I think his decision making has been good and he's not trying to push it downfield Only, only only only when he really has an opportunity, which it hasn't been very much. But he got to stop taking shots. And I know you wanted to talk about Will Levitz. Let's roll this along, just so we don't run out of time. I know you want to talk about Will Levitz. You said that's unprecedented. The coach is asking him what the fuck are you doing?

Nick Harvey:

Well, just how flagrant it was. He literally took off his headset. Look, tim goes. What the fuck are you doing after that? I don't know what he was doing. Look back to back weeks two and in the spots too right in that bears game they were up. It was the fourth quarter. All you need to do is protect the ball and you were most likely going to win that game and you had an egregious turnover. Uh, that went to the house. Too right, that was the tyreek stevenson to the house that was a pick.

Nick Harvey:

Yeah, pick six when he's in the grasp and just throwing it away. Then this week, same exact situation. They are in field goal range, they're in a game that's very winnable against the New York Jets and he, for whatever reason, as he's getting tackled, looks and makes a conscious decision to flip it between his running back's leg. Obviously, guy didn't pick it up, defender gets it. That's a wrap. Jets end up winning the ball game.

Sean Little:

They could be 2-0.

Nick Harvey:

They could be 2-0.

Sean Little:

They could be 2-0.

Nick Harvey:

Those are the type of things that you look at and say, had these gone the other way, we have a great chance of being 0-2. So what's his name? Callahan? Is that the guy's name? Yeah, that's Callahan's face. What's his face, Dude? He used to coach the Raiders, Callahan yeah. Bill Callahan. They said that he sabotaged that Super Bowl on purpose. By the way, you can look up the interviews about it. Wait what you never seen. That Don't derail the pod, I got it.

Sean Little:

Yeah, brian Callahan, yeah, look up Bill Callahan. Son of Bill.

Nick Harvey:

Callahan. Look, look up Bill Callahan. Look up Bill Callahan tanking that Raiders Super Bowl. Remember that Super?

Sean Little:

Bowl. It was crazy, the offensive lineman was with the A's, the night before the game.

Nick Harvey:

Yeah, it was a crazy Super Bowl. Anyways, as he's coming off the field, looks at Will Levis and goes what the fuck are you doing? In plain sight on his ass in his defense, 100%. It was the right thing to do to say that to him. Um, we look at a guy like levis I think there are some. We talked about it last week. He's competitive. He reminds me a little bit of baker. Right, obviously worked on his body a little bit this year. Came in the, came in the year, looking good, could make some throws. You can't do shit like that. It's unacceptable. It's unacceptable, doesn't?

Sean Little:

matter how good you are. Yeah, what did we just leave? The show with Brian Callahan ain't got no ties to that man, will Levis.

Nick Harvey:

No ties to Will Levis at all. That man will be on the bench by week five if he keeps acting up like that by week five keep doing some shit like that, 100% yeah.

Sean Little:

And even if he did, and when I see that type of tone, it's pretty clear that Callahan wasn't really rocking with this dude in the first place.

Nick Harvey:

He's like alright, this is the guy I got.

Sean Little:

So I gotta go with him. But yeah, he's like I knew this dude couldn't play off top and now I'm seeing it in real life NFL snaps. So it's like, yeah, no.

Nick Harvey:

This is not something I'm interested in. I think he can play, but shit like that is hilarious.

Sean Little:

No, he can't play.

Nick Harvey:

No, I'm cool, I'm good, we're done, we're cool off. Will Levis, are we out?

Sean Little:

We're cool off. Yeah, I'm out. What Never was in.

Nick Harvey:

Let's move on, Anyway. Two of the worst turnovers you've ever seen in your entire life, man.

Sean Little:

Yeah, no question. Let's move over to caleb williams and the chicago bears. We're through two weeks. Caleb williams looked a lot better to me in week two than he did in week one. He looked a lot more calm when he was able to get something done. Where you want to go here, first big nick to quit the, yeah, talk to me about his play, the situation, and then we get, we'll start rolling on it so we touched on this a little bit last week.

Nick Harvey:

His welcome to the nfl moment tried to shake a, try to shake a dt, looked back up, the guy is still right there in his face. Understood. This league is different. Right, let's start with that. This league is different if you look at those interceptions that he threw on Sunday night, one in particular I think it was the second one, I'm sorry, the first one where he just kind of launched it up there. He thought he had a man open and that window closed faster than he could imagine.

Nick Harvey:

That's the NFL. Right on Saturday, that's a touchdown. On Saturday, that's a 70 yard bomb. That's SportsCenter number one play in the NFL. You can't do that. So I'm hoping that he's learning from that, right, I'm hoping that he learned last week that these guys are different. I'm hoping that he learned this week that these guys are different and some of the things that you could do, some of those flash plays that you would try to make when things break down in college, that you can't do in the NFL. So a hundred percent, a lot of that is on Caleb. I'm not, you know, taking away any blame from him. He has not played well. He's looked flustered, but he's looked like a rookie quarterback. This league is different. On the flip side, what was the stat On 38 dropbacks? He was pressured 37 times.

Sean Little:

I watched Jalen Hurts last night operate out of a clean top three. Hold on, let's get the actual number just so. It's not as bad because there's a difference between total pressures, like actual players, versus the actual number of pressures. So next-gen stats there was 36 total individual pressures by 10 different pass rushers on 48 dropbacks, but 23 team pressures on 48 dropbacks but 23 team pressures on 48 dropbacks. So still like 40, 45, 47 percent of the time. In other words, when the pressure was coming, it was multiple people and even when it wasn't coming, you still felt it that's the thing.

Nick Harvey:

But when you're getting pressure on half of your dropbacks it doesn't. Even on plays where there's no one back there, you're kind of waiting for the other shoe to drop. You're waiting for somebody to be back there, so the offensive line is played atrocious. You talk about jayden daniels taking hits. We talk about surrounding rookie quarterbacks with talent. And look, I love wide receivers, I love running backs. I think they're fun, they're great you need them right.

Nick Harvey:

But you can go back through the what nine years that we've been doing this show. I've been banging the same drums. You win from the line of scrimmage Offensive linemen, defensive linemen. It's funny. I was watching the game last night with Nikki and she's trying to get into football, right. So I was like, hey, if you really want to understand, you could watch a football game. Just watch the line of scrimmage, right, watch zero balls, zero, quarterback, zero, anything for four quarters, and you could probably tell who won the game just by watching the battle up front. Right, it dictates so much. If you watch four quarters of offensive line play, you could watch it. You could figure out, hey, this team probably won because, either a their linemen were holding up or, b they were in the backfield every single time pressuring the quarterback.

Sean Little:

Push-pull.

Nick Harvey:

Yeah, with the Bears they were in the backfield every single time pressuring the quarterback. I don't know who this guy is that we have at center, but for two straight weeks we have seen this guy get bum-rushed up there. Caleb has no time. So when you talk about a rookie quarterback whose processor is already a lot slower than someone who's played years in the nfl, you have to give him time. You have to give him time now. With this guy, it's in his nature to try to make the fantastic play right. So it's like a deadly combination of him not having enough time plus him thinking that he could overcome that by making crazy plays, because that's what he did at us USC when he wasn't playing around a lot of talent. Those USC teams that he had when we talked about, I think only one other guy got drafted on his team those weren't the USC 2005.

Nick Harvey:

This wasn't Bush and Lindell White and shout out Lindell White and Matt Liner than those boys running around. He had this. This was not that right. So it's in his nature to try to make those crazy plays and you're not helping it by making him feel like he has to. Also the play calling for two straight weeks. I've talked about it. Shane waldron doesn't know what he's doing. I saw that within five minutes of the first game. Why are we launched?

Sean Little:

we're already. We're already out on shane.

Nick Harvey:

Yeah, I know shitty coordinators. I've been watching shitty coordinators my whole life. This guy doesn't know what he's doing. No idea what he's doing. I'm out. I was out after the first game. I was out after the first game. I was out after third and one empty sets. I'm out after third and one shotgun.

Sean Little:

Sometimes you just got to line up and play football.

Sean Little:

This is the thing too, though it's always interesting, More than anything, I think, when we're talking about Ibra Fluss and Shane. This line is not the fucking answer. You can't do anything if you're getting pressure. The way these guys are allowing pressure, you can't ask Shane, Cause, like this is the thing too, I'm not confident that. Okay, I hate gun third and one runs, but I'm not sure if you stack the bitch up and ran it, they pick it up the one anyway. So it's it's more of like a talent evaluation thing of if you think these guys that you have up front can play. That's our number one issue. First and foremost. That needs to get sorted. Deandre Swift has no business running between the tackles 10, 11 times in a game.

Nick Harvey:

That's not his game. That's why.

Sean Little:

Juice Herbert's on the roster though Let him run in between the tackles. Get DeAndre Swift the rock out. In space Zone reads that's what he did in Philly. That's where he was impactful in Philly. But I mentioned this to Nick on the phone for everybody listening and watching.

Sean Little:

We've had a lot of offensive geniuses come over to Chicago. Why do they always seem to forget how to call O when they get here? Because Shane Waldron got Geno Smith paid, had that Seattle offense looking solid, young running back looking solid, tyler Lockett still getting a rock. Geno got an extension because of Shane Waldron and that offense overall what they were doing. This. The number one issue with the Bears right now on offense for me is the offensive line. Then we get to Shane Waldron, then we get to Shane Waldron, then we get to Kayla Williams.

Sean Little:

One thing I noticed that I wanted to ask you how did the hey, because this has happened a couple times now DJ Moore, on misses and incompletions, has been a little demonstrative towards I don't want to say directly towards Caleb, but clearly showing frustration on the field and if you go back and you remember he was pounding his chest for Justin Fields to come back, anything you've noticed from DJ, or am I looking too far into some of the things that he'd been doing? Cause even Collinsworth called it out on the back shoulder. He's like I beat my guy inside for you. I left you five yards to the boundary for a back shoulder throw. You, threw the shit out of bounds. He kind of showed that frustration on that. Miss.

Nick Harvey:

Ripped his, ripped his chin straps off, walked to the sideline, anything to that I think it's very frustrating for wide receivers to play with shitty offensive lines because they're just not getting the ball.

Sean Little:

It's, it's that yeah, there's no time we know.

Nick Harvey:

First of all, look wide receivers. If they're not catching passes, they're not happy, because most of them don't do anything other than catch passes. We got some guys that'll block. You got some guys they'll do some other things. But but look, man, I mean they have six or seven plays a game where they matter. That's about it. So if you're not getting those six or seven plays a game, you're very upset. If you're not even getting the ball thrown in your direction, you're very upset. Yeah, he might be frustrated with Caleb. For sure. He's wide open, he's doing what he has to do, but everything around him is breaking down. So he's just out there doing cardio. Um, I don't know if it's necessarily frustration with caleb as much as it's just frustration with the whole situation. That is frustrating to watch. It's frustrating to be a part of.

Nick Harvey:

They were in the back field every single play. In addition to that, you're only rushing four or five guys, which means you're dropping six or seven, right? So there's not a lot of not a lot of space to throw the ball to. They didn't need to blitz. For two straight weeks, teams have said we can beat this team one-on-one with our front four or front five. That's demoralizing. Last week the titans didn't need to blitz. This week the texans didn't need to blitz. So all those blacker blackers, all those backers, corners, safeties, they're all in coverage.

Nick Harvey:

You wonder why caleb threw that pick and there's five guys there? Because none of them are blitzing. You don't have to. You're beating these guys one-on-one. You're putting pressure right up the middle. Look at some of those plays again. I don't know the center's name. He was backwards all night. Offensive linemen should never be backpedaling. He was backpedaling all night and that pressure is right there in caitlin's face. So of course he can't make a good throw to dj and even though we just talked about it, even on plays where he's not getting pressure, it's there. It's inevitable.

Nick Harvey:

Coleman shelton is your internal clock, as a coleman shelton should not be playing football in the nfl. I'm sorry it's not working for you.

Sean Little:

You got gotta do something else might be a few cats on that line, nate Davis, that line is Nate Davis is an atrocity for three years.

Nick Harvey:

He's either not playing due to some undisclosed reason, or when he doesn't play, he doesn't give effort, and I'll never forget when we signed him, they said Vrabel was so happy to get him off the roster. I forget who it was. The quote was Mike V Brable hates Nate Davis.

Sean Little:

Yeah, and that's not a guy that you want. I trust Brable. I trust Brable. How about that?

Nick Harvey:

I trust Brable's read on effort he was an effort guy when he played. I trust his read and I trust his read on ground and pound and all that. That's what he did in Tennessee. So if he's looking at a guy he's like I fucking hate this guy, I can't wait to get him off my roster.

Nick Harvey:

And then we bring him over and it's been a disaster since I mean, some of the film on Nate Davis is appalling of a guy just not trying not trying to get to the second level and make another block. That's the type of shit where I don't care if he's your best guard or when he plays well, he's good, you bench him. You can't have shit like that going on. The rest of the team sees that. So Belichick was talking about this, Like I think we all got so happy about Keenan Allen, DJ Moore, Roma Dunce, DeAndre Swift, all these. None of that shit matters if you can't block Period point blank. We talked about it with the patriots for years. They sacrificed skill position guys to keep tom brady upright. That's all that mattered. And if you missed a block, belichick was putting you on the bench and you might never play again and they won a lot of games.

Sean Little:

Protect the quarterback.

Nick Harvey:

And they won a lot of football games. I saw Brady win Super Bowls in years. They didn't have good receivers. That last Super Bowl they won in New England that team was ass yeah it really was. Ass had no business winning the Super Bowl, but you kept your quarterback upright and that shit translates in the winter, it translates in the playoffs and it translates in the super bowl. Protect your quarterback. I don't know. I don't know how much more we need to talk about this. Rush the quarterback, protect the quarterback. We can't do it.

Sean Little:

And be able to rush the football, so you could work off play action and use all the tools that Caleb has in the bag to be successful.

Nick Harvey:

But you can't run the ball without a line there is.

Sean Little:

I would say there's two quarterbacks right now in the entire NFL that could drop back and throw it 40 times and have success without running it, and I think that's Joe Burrow and Patrick Mahomes.

Nick Harvey:

I think it's Patrick Mahomes, because Burrow's either going to get teed off that line is.

Sean Little:

Yeah, but Joe, I've seen defenses know Joe's going to drop back every play and him do what he needs to do. I've seen it multiple times over years. Mahomes the same thing. Lamar Jackson can't do it. Aaron Rodgers is too old to do it now. Like Kirk Cousins had success last night, because they were gashing those boys, b John Robinson was gashing those boys. Play action is in play. If play action's not in play and you got to drop back and they know you're dropping back, it's a tough, tough, tough, tall order for 99% of the quarterbacks in the NFL. Before we get to Iberflues, nick, I want to Since 2023,.

Nick Harvey:

Patrick Mahomes is the 23rd most sacked quarterback in the league. To your point, there's only 32 teams. They prioritize protecting him.

Sean Little:

Prioritize protecting him At the expense of receivers?

Nick Harvey:

Yeah, he does, but listen at the expense of Receivers last year are protecting Patrick. We'll take our chances protecting Patrick and he'll get a Super Bowl.

Sean Little:

Correct.

Sean Little:

Before we get to Matt Iberflues, I want to say this about Caleb Williams, the second interception where he's under pressure. Daniil Hunter almost rips his shirt from under his jersey. He spins away, rolls right and tries to find Kemet, but throws the interception and is genuinely shocked that it got picked off. He couldn't believe it. The look on his face was like how in the world did he get to that? Where did that guy come from?

Sean Little:

I want Caleb Williams to continue to try to make that play because that is why he's in the league and that's why he's gotten there. He will learn that there's certain plays that he cannot make or cannot throw. But I actually like the attempt because that's what's made Caleb Williams. Caleb Williams, that's what's won him a Heisman Trophy. He's trying to make a play.

Sean Little:

If he rolls out there and just throws it out of bounds, that's really not. That doesn't make him an elite guy down the road, kyler Murray. If he runs around like he did the other day versus the Rams and then throws that ball out of bounds instead of looking downfield and trying to make something happen, we're not talking about it. So live by the sword, die by the sword. He'll get older and more mature and have more experience and know what windows he can fit balls into. But I'm not mad at the throw. It's picked off. He's fighting for his life trying to make plays. I was almost encouraged a little bit by him letting it go. It's a bad pick. It goes down the sheet as a bad pick, but I still like the attempt and the effort and he'll grow from that live by the sword, die by the sword.

Nick Harvey:

But you're gonna die every time if you ain't got no body armor yeah, but but what I'm saying is this is him learning, but this is him learning what windows are what yeah, that's listen, he's gonna, I have I'm not.

Nick Harvey:

I'm not. I'm not critical of caleb right now. He has not played well, but also I mean I think he's learning right. Like look, I didn't think he was going to hit the ground running, it was going to be crazy. I agree with that man. He has to figure out what he can and cannot do in this league. You also brought up an interesting thing Cole Komet. I've always heard that a rookie quarterback's best friend is their tight end. Why don't we use him? I thought Cole Komet was a really good player last year for Justin Fields. Caught a lot of touchdowns, really good tight end. You reward him with a contract. Involve him in the office. Five targets on 37 dropbacks on Sunday. Come on, man. What are we doing here?

Sean Little:

What are we doing? And in some pieces like that Roma Dunes they got to come down with that slant in the end zone. A thousand percent he does For a big-time wide receiver coming out of school. That's an easy catch.

Nick Harvey:

Keenan Allen. As Keenan Allen last week needed to make that touchdown pass, keenan Allen got to make that catch. Yeah, yeah.

Sean Little:

There's been a couple conversations on Twitter about young quarterbacks and JJ McCarthy has the same amount of touchdown passes as Caleb Williams. It's like, first of all, I just watched a man. I watched our boys drop two TD passes where he put the ball on the money. I actually don't think Caleb is playing that bad. I'm actually think with what he has been dealing with. I think actually he's been playing solid.

Nick Harvey:

He was good in the first half he was fine.

Sean Little:

The whole confidence thing is interesting because we know how that goes with quarterbacks. And if it was, actually, I can't believe how ironic the irony of him, in an orange jersey, sitting on the bench and looking up into the sky, identically the way justin Fields did in an orange jersey and I want to say that was a primetime game as well Like what in the fucking world is this? So that's a long way to go. We'll see what happens. Let's move on to Matt Eberflus real quick.

Nick Harvey:

Easy. Caleb's always been the best player at every single level. His athleticism has always allowed him to overcome things he's realizing in this league. That's not necessarily the case. That's fine work with him coaching staff.

Sean Little:

Fill in the blanks, he'll be just fine.

Nick Harvey:

That's it matt iberflues who I am on wax.

Sean Little:

You know people. Hey, this is the United States of America. People rebrand all the time. Matt Ibraflues had one of the most unbelievable rebrands out of thin air I've ever seen and he didn't fool me. I've been pounding on the table for this dude to get fired forever. Last year he goes into the summer and gets a haircut and a couple fits and a pair of sunglasses. He and then we signed some talent and Caleb's coming in. That, of course, has something to do with it. He closed the the summer, going into week one of the NFL regular season, the favorite to win coach of the year. He went from being fired to the favorite to win coach of the year. He went from being fired to the favorite to win coach of the year in a span of four months. And, yes, we drafted the Heisman Trophy winning quarterback and, yes, we added a bunch of talent. Regardless, tyron didn't change his stripes man.

Sean Little:

This guy is not a, he's just not a head coach for me, and every time I listen to him speak I stayed up late, I listened to the press conference. We can talk about the challenges. He never answered. You know when you ask someone a question, nick, and you're satisfied with the answer and you're like okay, I have never been satisfied with an answer that Matt Ibrahim has ever given to a question. Nick, and you're satisfied with the answer and you're like, okay, I have never been satisfied with an answer that Matt Ibrahim has ever given to a question ever. He doesn't say anything, he dances around things and I'm never left feeling invigorated or confident about where he stands with the situation that he's talking about or the team or anything. It's almost just like I just shrug and kind of go on and we'll just see what happens next week.

Sean Little:

They asked him about the challenges. He talked about the process of how he gets the, the decision to uh confirm if he's going to challenge it or not. He said they were high leverage situations which made him decide to challenge that. One was a third down and one was a turnover. And they asked him about it twice. He confirmed twice that he appreciates the process. Our process is good. Clearly it's not good because those are two horrific challenges that cost you you can save those spots. We could have used the timeout at some point. Challenges that cost you you could have saved those spots. We could have used a timeout at some point in that first half. Talk to me about.

Nick Harvey:

Iber Flues overall your feeling and the miracle rebrand that he somehow pulled off. Yeah, I mean, obviously Hard Knocks did him a great favor of just showcasing the whole rebrand and the haircut and how his wife told him to step his game up and you know he's sitting lakeside out there and his daughters and his nice and his nice crib, you know, sitting there drinking, drinking cappuccino.

Nick Harvey:

You know they open up hard knocks. He's having a party at his house overlooking lake michigan, it's all great. They make it seem like this guy is like, uh, I don't know, like the coolest guy on earth. No, he has no idea what he's doing. The other thing that Hard Knocks showed is that he can't have a conversation with Caleb Williams because he does not understand offense. You literally send him down and like yeah, how do you feel? Okay, yeah, okay, yeah, all right, yeah, go get him Tiger. Like the guy has absolutely zero idea how to communicate with his quarterback. Look, the defense has played great. If he has his hands on the defense, I will give him that Over the last he does 14 games, 13 games. This defense has been outstanding. To start the season this year, this defense has been outstanding. I thought the defense was special on Sunday, all things considered, considering that you were playing against an absolutely elite quarterback.

Nick Harvey:

We can say that about Coleridge, bernard Str, stroud the third, or whatever his name is, the fourth, the fourth, there's been three others. We can say that about elite. We can say that about Stroud. Stroud is elite Again, ball placement, we talked about it. This guy is absolutely elite. Can say that about Stroud Stroud is elite. Again, ball placement, we talked about it, this guy is absolutely elite. And to hold him to 19 points and really put it in a situation where that you know they got to come down and win the game that the defense played great um.

Nick Harvey:

But that's not head coaching. To shake off those challenges as high leverage situations, I'm sorry those cost you timeouts in a one possession ball game. Right, neither one of those were anything that you should have challenged. The catch by stefan diggs was right in front of you. He was five feet from the sidelines when he caught that ball. It was very clearly a catch. The interception same deal. I saw that in real time. That's not a pick. We know that.

Nick Harvey:

You also have someone in your ear who is feeding you this information, saying that's not a pick or that's a catch, and then from there you decide to make that move. So we're not going to shake that off as if it didn't matter, because that's part of head coaching. You and I talk about this multiple times per sunday. I'll call you and I said you just see what that coach did in that game. That's what it is. Head coaching is game management. So I'm happy that you're able to run the defense, but can you manage the game? It is the most important part of head coaching. Mike tomlin hasn't picked up a playbook in a decade.

Nick Harvey:

Manages the game manages the game manages the week everybody knows what they're supposed to do manages the culture.

Nick Harvey:

The standard is the standard is the standard is the standard. He still hasn hasn't told you that Justin Fields is a starting quarterback. That's just how we operate. So listen, that is called being a head coach man. You're responsible for everything that goes on, and right now, Matt Eberflus is responsible for being 11 and 25 as a head coach. Period, point blank. I don't care about what they didn't put around him in his first year or his second year or any of that. He was 11-25 as a head coach. We still have questions about his game management and decision making. He has zero involvement with the offense while it's in shambles. Now it's up to you, man. You can't just hang your hat on the defense playing well.

Sean Little:

Yeah, because you're not a defensive coordinator. You're not a defensive coordinator anymore, you're the head coach.

Nick Harvey:

And I thought this year he's not calling the defense right, or is he? What does he do? Is he solid? Is he at the solid level.

Sean Little:

I think he's calling some of the D. I don't know that for a fact. I should probably dive in and get to the bottom of that, but he seems to be calling sets on a play-to-play. They had nine penalties, though for 60. The Texans had 12 penalties for 115 yards, and we still couldn't do anything offensively. 3.1 yards per play on offense it's absolutely cultured. It's nothing new, it's the same.

Nick Harvey:

Yeah, it's the same. So, yeah, he has to take a blame in that man. You are the head coach. If you're gonna, it's a 360 degree thing. You got to figure it out. And again to bring up Tomlin. I hate to keep bringing this up because it makes it seem like I really love I do love Mike Tomlin, but I have watched this man find ways to win football games with no offensive performance. It's possible, right, that is head coaching. Tj watt helps. Tj watt absolutely helps. That's fine, yeah, but a real head coach sets a standard. You have two different types. If you're gonna be the guy who is managing the building right and managing the game, but not necessarily calling shit, then that shit has to look great. You don't watch the Steelers and say, oh man, mike Tomlin really blew that high-pressure situation or he made the wrong call there. The shit is always buttoned up. That's what the good head coaches do. Ibra Flues is not a good head coach and he's not the head coach that you should have with this quarterback. We need a quarterback whisperer.

Sean Little:

We talked about this and and my and my guess is that he'll be gone by next year and then caleb will have to learn a new system and a new everything, and we'll find out, he probably got an extension in the offseason on the low bears aren't gonna pay that money on the low.

Sean Little:

Let me go through these really quick around the shield, around the nfl. I'm gonna try to get through these so we could we don't have around the NFL. I'm going to try to get through these because we don't have too much time to get through quick. Baker Mayfield versus the Lions. Look, baker Mayfield is here. I have been critical of Baker throughout the years because we talked about if you're going to show up and bark and do commercials and dance for the cameras at practice, you better be fucking throwing touchdowns on Sundays. Baker Mayfield wasn't doing that, he was dealing with the shoulder. That was probably a bigger deal than was made out and I think that also should be a lesson to a lot of players and people just watching ball that maybe it's not worth it to go out there and try to fight through an injury. That is hampering you because then next thing you know you're teetering on being out of a job and out of the league. That's what Baker Mayfield was done. Salute to Baker Mayfield. Last two years on third down, he's been one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. I saw it live and in color. I had a bundle of money on the Lions. He came down and diced those boys in every single situation. So shout out to Baker. Mayfield Also Deserves what's going to get into him for sure. Without question. Jared Goff. You beat the Lions by pressuring. If you get pressure on Jared Goff to this day, still he's one of the worst quarterbacks in the NFL. He he does a light, he panics. He's been in the league for almost 10 years. He still panics when there's guys in his face he will put the ball up in the air, he will turn it over. So that's where we're at on Baker Mayfield in that Lions game. Shout out Baker, continue to deal. He's doing everything right. He's down there playing quarterback in Tampa. He's not talking to anyone and anytime there's a mic in his face he's just talking about how he likes to play quarterback and he wants to get back to it next week. That's why Baker is thriving. Good luck to Baker. I hope he keeps cooking.

Sean Little:

Let's go down to the Kansas City Chiefs. Mahomes slow start towards the bottom of the league in air yards. Two turnovers against the. I don't know if it was two turnovers, but he has two turnovers to start the year. Picks Pacheco has a broken leg. Kansas City Chiefs could easily be 0-2. They're 2-0. Keep an eye on that and how they keep going. Big Nick to Quick, because the offense still looks like it's sputtering a little bit and Pacheco missing is a bigger deal than advertised. I mean it just happened, but you will find out shortly that that's a bigger deal than it seems. Ravens 0-2. Make it quick. Are you worried?

Nick Harvey:

Yes, Absolutely, because this division is tough. This division is tough, steelers already 2-0. Ravens got some issues. Man, they got some issues. I would 100% be worried at 0 and 2, as I am with the Bengals.

Sean Little:

I agree, and it's not even a Lamar Jackson thing. Could Lamar play better? Yes, the defense that was completely lights out last year hasn't looked that way this year. Nope, you can't be giving up spots and back-to-back drives to the, to the raiders and at home, and give up points and expect to be competing in an afc. That is absolutely stacked. They miss patrick queen. He's the guy that was with roquan smith, that was running shit and guess where he is pittsburgh. So they're, they miss him quite a bit. Keep an eye on the ravens, we'll see what happens there. Kyler murray man, he might be back. Hey, you blow the acl. You need no call of duty. No call of duty, kyler murray. You, you blow the acl. You need some time to get back. I need to go. Well, I'm gonna go watch every single throw that Kyler had against the Rams. But Orlovsky said it was some of the best tape he's ever put on film. He was five for five First half against Buffalo.

Nick Harvey:

He was ridiculous.

Sean Little:

He was five for five on passes, 20 plus yards or more. Mhj dot number 18. Ooh has arrived. Player MHJ. Player, player MHJ.

Nick Harvey:

R, little R, I'm not even going that far. First round draft pick of the Cardinals.

Sean Little:

The funny thing is, no one knows. I think like half the people know the joke and the other half don't. So we're talking about Marvin Harrison Jr. Whoa, we're talking about, uh, barvin harrison jr but whoa. So go don't look up why you're not supposed to say that name out in public. But mhj small r 18. That was him, not me. The ohio state university him, not me.

Nick Harvey:

Hey look, I'll say this about kyler man. I watched, uh, I watched the buffalo game and I watched a lot of the game this weekend. Kyler Murray looks great. I banged my head against a wall for not taking the Cardinals in that spot. If you know me through the years, I have always backed the Arizona Cardinals in a spot like that at home, coming off that tough loss against Buffalo.

Nick Harvey:

Played really well, played really well. Just Josh Allen was Superman in the second half of that game and they were rolling and just an undervalued team, right, everybody points at last year. Last year Kyler Murray missed 14 games. This team had zero interest in winning anything, they were all over the place. Of course they looked terrible. This year, kyler Murray's back. He's healthy for all at camp. He has his deal.

Sean Little:

Gannon's been working with him um gannon's good that we, he's good.

Nick Harvey:

I think we came into this year and we probably missed on. The cardinals just wrote them off, um, instead of saying, hey, maybe, maybe these guys can do some things. Now let's see how it goes right, because kyler's done this before, starts off the year hot, but when shit kind of hits the rails, I don't. I just don't think he's a film guy. So the problem is, once the film is out there on him and defense starts to adjust, I don't know if kyler's locking himself in the room to try to, you know, exploit little matchups here. He's just going out there playing ball. Maybe that'll change right, maybe that'll change. He's matured, he's older now. He did miss most of the year last year. So, you know, sometimes that puts shit into perspective. So we'll see.

Nick Harvey:

But that's a dangerous team. They've always been a dangerous team and I've said this forever. It is a tough place to play. I just think guys go out there, you get out. We both have lived out there. You get out there a couple days earlier. It's a lot going on out there in the desert, so stay tuned. I'm serious man, like listen, yeah, it's always been that way out there in that division and that division has always played each other tough, so I'm not surprised they give the Rams a run for their money and win that ballgame. But we should have been on Kyler Murray.

Sean Little:

Stay tuned on Kyler no longer Cliff Kingsbury running the show Jonathan.

Nick Harvey:

Gannon is there.

Sean Little:

Maybe that will change things.

Nick Harvey:

And I got to give one big shout out to the new orleans saints. New orleans saints went into dallas and absolutely smacked them. Shout out derrick carr, shout out dennis allen. Um, the saints team is two and oh, this defense looks absolutely legit and the offense looks like it can score some points. That might be a team to watch in the nfc south. Nfc south is shaking out to be a good division, definitely a team to watch in the south. They're two, they're 2-0.

Sean Little:

Atlanta got a huge W, so they're not back rolling.

Nick Harvey:

Atlanta got a huge W. Kirk Cousins was rolling last night on that game-winning drive, one of the worst losses I've seen in a while. Though you can point to multiple different things as to why the Eagles shouldn't have lost that game. You can talk about the Saquon drop. You can talk about some of the clock management stuff from Sirianni. I don't have a problem with him throwing it there, because if he catches it it's a touchdown and the game is over Correct. But there was a lot of things I saw, but the defensive coverage on the next possession where Kirk, literally in five plays, drive down the field like it was absolutely nothing leaves a lot to scratch the head about, and I'll also push back on this go down and score the touchdown. I'm listening to manning broadcast and payton's like oh, don't score so fast, kirk. Eli goes, yeah, but you gotta score the touchdown. So it's interesting to hear a guy like payton, who knows he can score, versus a guy like eli, who may have had some trouble in that situation, saying the momentum's going. You know what I'm saying.

Sean Little:

Saying Of course you can say that baby, Hit it while you can. Yeah, hit it while you can.

Nick Harvey:

The momentum's rolling, I don't think there's any reason you slow down. You had them on their heels. You score. You hope your defense can come down and get a stop, and that's exactly what happened. So, yeah, I think, some interesting storylines and again, I'm gonna keep saying it mike tomlin and the pittsburgh steelers are two and oh, justin fields is playing, winning football. He is throwing the ball when he has to. This team has a good defense and we understand I know you're not a believer you wanted mike tomlin fired last year, but don't be surprised if we look up and see this team at 10 and 7 or 11 and 6 you were calling for it after week three last year.

Sean Little:

I never said that.

Sean Little:

Anyway, hold the tape, watch the film. Speaking of coaching, matt LaFleur ran the ball 53 times for 261 yards. When we talk about trying an offensive mind, having an actual game plan, that's what I'm talking about. You knew Malik Willis couldn't throw it. I knew Malik Willis couldn't throw it. Matt LaFleur knew Malik Willis couldn't throw it. The Indianapolis Colts knew Malik Willis couldn't throw it and they showed up and ran the ball down your throat every single play and you could do nothing. That's the. That's when we're talking about setting up a game plan that works with your quarterback in your situation. That's what we're talking about. Shout out Matt LaFleur for putting that together and making it happen yeah, that's old school football 32 carries for Josh Jacobs.

Nick Harvey:

I want you to see the last time a running back had 32 carries. That is a strong commitment to the running game, like you said. Yeah, only 14 dropbacks from Malik Willis on that game, though not to flip it. But Anthony Richardson, where are we speaking of not being able to throw the ball? Splash plays, yeah, I mean it. But Anthony Richardson, where are we Speaking of not being able to throw?

Sean Little:

the ball Splash plays. Yeah, I mean, this is only what his sixth game, seventh game, like he hasn't even played any games. So yeah, I mean, we gotta see.

Nick Harvey:

If he was in Carolina he'd be benched.

Sean Little:

He got 18. We'll see we could talk about Ant Richardson after 18. We'll see we can talk about Ant Richardson after 18. We'll come back to it, but let's close it out. Big Nick, to quick. It has to stop. Lead it off.

Nick Harvey:

Man. So, yeah, this segment it has to stop. We're going to go around the league, around the sports world, and talk about a couple things that we are absolutely fed up with and that have to stop. I'm going to lead off the show with something that you and I have talked about since amazon debuted thursday night football with their clue of our girl, carissa thompson, shout out. Richard sherman, tony gonzalez and andrew whitworth. Andrewworth, great playing career, Respect him. You know I talk about old linemen. I love him. We have to give up the hoodie under the blazer. Look, every single week, doesn't?

Nick Harvey:

matter if it's warm out, doesn't matter if it's cold out. Andrew Whitworth shows up on set with a hoodie under his blazer this week, this past Thursday, we reached new heights he had a bomber on. You know the bomber jacket. It was made out of that same fabric that windbreakers are made out of right.

Sean Little:

Yeah, it's like a satin almost.

Nick Harvey:

Yeah, like a satin, almost right it depends on the beat. The jacket was okay. It's nondescript. He's a nondescript guy. That's okay. It's nondescript. He's a nondescript guy. That's fine. Doesn't need to be loud. Still, had the hoodie on under the nylon bomber Looked absolutely terrible. At this point I feel like he's trolling us. Andrew Whitworth, the hoodies under the blazer absolutely have to stop Bezos. Whoever it is over there that needs to talk to him. You're on TV. You know they have access to stylists Someone needs to save my man.

Sean Little:

It's a terrible.

Nick Harvey:

Look, I get it as a big guy. I get it. The hoodie is sometimes a shield. Right, the hoodie is a shield. We're bigger guys. We get insecure about certain parts. Now we might look on TV, I understand it. It you put the hoodie on, it's like a security blanket. I understand. I understand, as a fellow big man, that ain't it, though there's other things that we can sweat.

Nick Harvey:

I know why he's doing it I know why he's doing it he's insecure. It's okay, andrew, I see you, but we gotta do something different. Man, holler at my boy, sean, get him right. Man, send him a CTA. Here's a couple pieces mixing combo. This year it's a terrible look and it's gone on for far too long. It has to stop maybe it's a trademark.

Sean Little:

Maybe that's what he's going like. I haven't seen him with a deal yet someone needs to holler at him.

Nick Harvey:

Hey, holler at my guy Iguodala. I know he's got a clothing company for big men, like there's other options out there.

Sean Little:

Has to stop. Anything else before we get out of here, I'm not even going to do mine just because we got to go. You got any more. It has to stop.

Nick Harvey:

Yeah, college football.

Nick Harvey:

Just the merry-go-round of college football Graham Mertz. Graham Mertz, we watched him suck at Wisconsin. Somehow he ends up at a bigger program starting in Florida. Dj Ukulele I know I'm not saying his name right. We've watched him suck at three different schools. Somehow he ends up being the quarterback for a 14-0 team. And the last one is Bobby Petrino.

Nick Harvey:

Gets fired from Arkansas as the head coach for having an affair with an intern. He was given her $20,000 cash gifts. Gets in a motorcycle accident. They have him in the press conference with the halo thing on. He's over here lying to officials saying that he was on the bike by himself. Comes out that he was riding the bike with this intern. Obviously loses his job. Miraculously. I found out on Friday. Eight years later, bobby Ficino is back coaching as the offensive coordinator at the University of Arkansas. Only in college football can you get fired for sleeping with an intern and find yourself right back at the same university eight years later with a hero's welcome. Unbelievable College football as a whole must be stopped. Bring down the NCAA. It's criminal at this point.

Sean Little:

It has to stop.

Nick Harvey:

It has to.

Sean Little:

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