Ozempic, Fast Food, and Britney

Get ready for a wild ride that is Indiscreet Banter, where we dive headfirst into the randomness of life! This time, we're cracking up over everything from the weirdness of fluoride and MSG to the chaos of fast food and those wild Ozempic side effects. No serious health debates here—just us wondering how we’re still alive after all the junk food.

We also take a trip down memory lane with the golden era of reality TV—remember American Idol and The Voice? Yep, we’ve got opinions. And of course, we couldn’t resist throwing in some hot takes on celebrity antics, like Sharon Osbourne's transformations and Kylie Jenner’s bold fashion choices.

Oh, and politics? Well, let’s just say we have some thoughts on Biden, Harris, and why Britney Spears is still the queen of mystery. We also try to fix the national debt in like five minutes—no big deal. Tune in for laughs, random tangents, and a whole lot of nonsense!

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Toxic Food and Weight Loss Trends

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Speaker 1 1:08

Yelling at the people. I don't think so I think that people are going to end up dying.

Speaker 4 1:15

And preservatives, and the air, the fluoride in our water.

Speaker 3 1:22

Fluoride is really bad. You told me you did a high school or a college paper or something on my college paper it was like 20 pages or something on the benefits of fluoride in your water and it's not good and you, your research showed that it was terrible yeah, and I've learned that it's even worse later, like throughout life.

Speaker 4 1:47

So, yeah, I still feel bad by saying if I was a big fatty, because I feel like that's going to really hurt someone's feelings. I really do, because I honestly do not believe in my heart of hearts that anyone is morbidly obese, that it's their fault. And I'm just going to take a step back and tell you why. Our food sucks. The fast food industry sucks. They're there to make you addicted to their food. It tastes overly good so you never can get enough of it. This goes for me, like me, and when I'm at chick-fil-a and I dip it in that chick-fil-a sauce, it's like I might as well just drink it.

Speaker 3 2:37

like let's just it's different.

Speaker 4 2:38

Dump it all over the the chicken nuggets and can I just get like a large side of chick-fil-a sauce? With extra chick-fil-a sauce yeah, like, do you want a small meal, large, uh yeah, so I really do think that that's actually not our um, it's not a personal like problem that they have well, how did you learn about like msg and stuff?

Speaker 3 3:03

because I, honestly had never heard of it until you told me about it I honestly don't know.

Speaker 4 3:09

I think I'm always just like super into health, food and stuff like that. So yeah, I I don't know where I heard about it, but I just remember someone I was watching some doctor said that basically it excites the brain so much that the brain cells actually start exploding because, like the human brain, like it just triggers something in it and obviously makes you crave the food it's in like every fast food restaurant. Some people are super allergic to it, like I had an aunt that would like get like deathly ill or, um, on certain times you'd have to like carry like an epi pin her. So, yeah, it would actually close up her throat so she couldn't breathe.

Speaker 3 3:49

And it's just MSG.

Speaker 4 3:50

Yeah, it's the MSG. I don't know what it even is. I think it tastes like salt, but it enhances the food flavors.

Speaker 3 3:57

So can I cook for the kids and then put MSG so they like it?

Speaker 4 4:00

No, seriously, I actually have watched so many um cooking random like recipes you know, I'm always watching those, you know and so they'll be like and add a teaspoon of msg and I'm like what are you doing to that food? And it's like anything like, even something healthy like. They're like we have cucumber slices and it's the best cucumbers you'll ever have. And then they're like and here's a tablespoon of msg along with some soy sauce, and it's like what?

Speaker 3 4:28

so you can just pick it up at like your local. Yeah, it's like a white powder.

Speaker 4 4:31

Yeah, really yeah, and people use it in their food. They're like what's your secret recipe?

Speaker 3 4:35

and you're like it's just made with love and msg that's crazy, yeah, and then there's really like no taste, but it just makes your brain.

Speaker 4 4:47

I honestly don't know, because I've never like been able to just like get some powder. I'm like what does this food crack taste like?

Speaker 3 4:53

I feel like we should buy some, even though it's really bad for us.

Speaker 4 4:57

I feel like we just to see what it tastes like. Like, oh, my spit all of a sudden tastes delicious. Yeah, for science.

Speaker 3 5:05

That's true, okay, well, okay. So back to ozempic. Have you heard about the? Um?

Speaker 4 5:13

well, of course you have ozempic face, or something okay, yeah, and actually I have something to say about that, because in all reality, it's nothing to do. It's just a nickname for people losing a lot of weight, and the doctor that I watched about it recently said that it's the same thing that would happen with anyone that lost like drastic amounts of weight, like you're going to lose the fat in your face, and so it's just a normal weight loss thing. So like if you were to lose a hundred pounds, your face would do the same thing, whether it was from Ozempic or not.

Speaker 3 5:42

But what about the people getting it who really aren't that overweight?

Speaker 4 5:47

but then they have that. I think it's just really them getting super gauntly skinny and dropping a lot of weight super fast. That's what he explained. I don't remember what the doctor's name was, but it made sense to me and, honestly, I mean you have to outweigh the risks, I think, when taking it. So I think that without knowing like big, you know risks I think that it would be like beneficial.

Speaker 4 6:11

I mean a lot of people say that they're like now able to get pregnant and they don't have to take their blood pressure medicine and like they can sleep without like a CPAP, cpap, cpap, what is it called?

Speaker 3 6:22

CPAP yeah, without like a CPAP.

Speaker 4 6:23

CPAP, cpac. What is it called CPAP? Yeah, so I think that if you outweigh the pros and cons, because it may not be healthy, but it's also not healthy to be super overweight.

Speaker 3 6:32

Yeah, and most Americans are like, very overweight.

Speaker 4 6:37

I know, and that's what anyone can look up like a beach from the 70s or the 60s. It's like everyone was skinny, like you know, like a big person with, like you never saw that, yeah. And now it's like, oh, a skinny person, like they exist still.

Speaker 3 6:52

Like you must be anorexic, you must have a health problem, because you're actually not overweight I know, and I think that's why, like a lot of old people, they feel like they're so overweight when they're not. You know like they weigh an extra, I don't know, like 20 pounds and they're like oh, you know, like I'm especially women. They're just like oh, I'm so overweight, I gotta eat lettuce, you know yeah yeah, because they're.

Speaker 4 7:15

They weren't used to that and like people were not that big yeah, and now people are like 190 pounds and they're five, two and they're like well, I'll get back to my weight one day you know they don't care, it's just normal to be a lot of it for me is just like it's like sadness, like I, if I see like a really big person, like I never look at them and go, oh gosh, like lose weight. I've never thought that like. I'm always like, oh my gosh, like how painful like that must be to like carry that around. Yeah. And then it just makes me angry that, like people do not know how toxic the food is like and how, we're all being poisoned and made to be an addict of food.

Speaker 3 7:56

That's true, even like carrying a backpack. You know, like as a kid I remember like I'd have like two books and some crayons or something you know, and I was like, oh my gosh.

Speaker 4 8:05

It was probably like 10 pounds and you're like, oh, and it just felt horrible.

Speaker 3 8:08

So if you think to add, you know all that weight on you all the time.

Speaker 4 8:13

I can see how I can imagine, like, even when I go to the gym and I, you know, pick up like 30 pounds on each arm, I'm like, oh my gosh, like after you're doing, done with your workout, you're like, okay, like all those lunges, like killed me. Then I am only carrying around, you know, an additional 60 pounds. But it's a lot of weight on the body all day, every day yeah, it's true, it's true.

Speaker 3 8:36

Something funny that I thought um that I kind of wanted to talk about was american idol, which is just funny just to even talk about um versus the voice, versus america's got talent. So I kind of want to know like your thoughts on like those and like what? Because originally, like american idol was like the og right, like it was like the first of its kind, I think, yeah it felt like it started everything.

Speaker 4 9:02

Yeah.

Speaker 3 9:02

Yeah, and.

Speaker 4 9:02

I've heard you know recently that there are some of these old, you know musical talent shows. But that's like the first one of my memory.

Speaker 3 9:11

Yeah, mine too. Yeah, like the gong one that I think your dad was talking about, or something.

Speaker 4 9:15

Yeah, that I've never even heard of. Yeah.

Speaker 3 9:16

I don't know if it was music. It might have been like trivia or something. Yeah, something know yeah, but yeah good old kelly clarkson.

Speaker 4 9:28

Yeah, but I fell in love with her. Yeah, I know I love kelly. Her concert was so good, was it? Though she seemed pretty drunk to me, yeah, but still it was good though. We still loved it and we love her, and her voice is incredible. We love her, and have you noticed that every time she does one of um, what the heck's that girl's name that has like the green and black hair?

Speaker 4 9:44

oh, billy eilish yeah, every time she does one of her songs I'm like, can you please do all of her albums, because they're songs that like I don't even like, notice or even care for. And no offense to all you billy eilish lovers out there. It's fine and there are some catchy songs I like of hers, but when she does them I'm like, oh like, that's a song like I feel like that's a hit.

Speaker 3 10:04

She has like the calm, like serene voice, you know, and she has good words, but then kelly clarkson just puts like the soul and like the vocals into it yeah, like I feel like it's, like it just has like a power it's like the other things like it's like oh, it's nice elevator music like I like her sound but it's not something that I'm like oh my gosh, yeah, you know, I'm like more of like, where's my kelly?

Speaker 4 10:26

where's my whitney houston? Where's my sleazy on? Like, where's the voice? That's true, but I mean, yeah, if everyone's down on that, like that wouldn't be the way that they are that's true.

Speaker 3 10:38

Yeah, I feel like I don't know and I feel like also, like people nowadays just don't, music isn't really about vocals. I feel like as much anymore. I feel like it's more about like catchy tunes. You know, like taylor swift, for example, she's huge but her vocals aren't the best out of you know. I mean, she's good but she's not like she has really catchy lyrics.

Speaker 4 11:03

Yeah, it's like a really catchy sound.

Speaker 3 11:04

Yeah, exactly, and Britney Spears was huge.

Speaker 4 11:07

But was her voice that great really yeah. She was a good dancer and she was beautiful, exactly, and she had catchy sounds. Yeah, I see what you're saying.

Speaker 3 11:14

Yeah.

Speaker 4 11:14

There's going to be a lot of Swifties that hate that comment.

Speaker 3 11:16

That's true, but you know what's oh?

Speaker 4 11:21

I'm getting a phone call, don't mind me.

Speaker 3 11:34

Well, we're back. He got a phone call.

Speaker 4 11:35

Commercial break over Yep commercial break.

Speaker 3 11:39

So anyway.

Speaker 4 11:41

I should probably silence my phone before these, huh.

Speaker 3 11:43

You probably should. Your phone goes off a lot all the time, yeah, but that's cool mine's nice and quiet, so no, popular, not popular.

Speaker 3 11:52

That's what it is exactly so one thing that's interesting that I was thinking about with like american idol is why do you remember how, like when they first started out so like american idol was like just like funny, like I don't know about you, but like I would tune in just to laugh, because the first like two or three audition episodes were hilarious yeah, because they well, I auditioned one time for american idol and supposedly I don't know.

Speaker 4 12:24

The truth of this is that people were really bad and they tell them they were super good and so they get them to that uh audition, because you don't really just go automatically in front of simon and all of them, like you have to do the audition, like with all the different like pre-judges, before you get to like the actual show and that's misleading, because the show doesn't they make it seem like, oh, you're just walking in fresh.

Speaker 3 12:46

It's like now you've already been through like five different rounds like fresh off the off the street, no.

Speaker 4 12:54

So that's, it is misleading, but it is entertaining.

Speaker 3 12:57

So I think that they find the best of the best and the worst of the worst and they say, let's, let's do this but I feel like on, like the voice, for example, like they don't have people like that anymore, you know, like they have people that aren't the best and maybe the chair doesn't turn, but they don't have people to give you like a belly roll laugh like american idol did that's true.

Speaker 4 13:17

I think it's just more of like a serious show. It's like more of like oh, we don't know who they are. You know everyone that's auditioned is good, but do you make it like past the like?

Speaker 3 13:27

you're a star, yeah.

Speaker 4 13:29

And then you have all these big, famous people that are. You know, if they hear the voice like, wow, that's someone that could be like us, it's one of our kind, one of our kind, I'll turn. Oh, this peasant. They'll never be like us. I don't hear the star power in their voice, even though they're amazing.

Reality TV, Celeb Gossip, Cancel Culture

Speaker 3 13:53

Some of them don't get a chair turn. There are some that are so good and you're like I'm about to jump through the screen and hit the button for you. It's crazy. Also, something else that I feel like American Idol had that they don't have anymore is the people like the viewer voting. They used to be like, oh, text this number, you know, and then you could vote.

Speaker 4 14:13

Does the voice even do that? I don't even remember.

Speaker 3 14:15

The voice doesn't do it.

Speaker 4 14:16

Not at all right. Is it just the judges that do it?

Speaker 3 14:18

Yeah.

Speaker 4 14:19

Wait from my memory. Like they have to get through.

Speaker 3 14:25

Like how do they? America must decide at the end. They don't feel like america sends you home or something right, right.

Speaker 4 14:29

So because, like then, the winning team or whatever the judge that chooses, the, I don't know. We don't watch enough of these shows anymore I know, so do you remember?

Speaker 3 14:38

so you think you can dance?

Speaker 4 14:40

that was lame. To me, it was like the off-brand great value Oreo it's just not as good as the other one. You know what I mean. Just like there's the good ones and then there's the ones that don't taste as good, it was the knockoff. American Idol, it's just the knockoff.

Speaker 3 14:58

It was lacking taste.

Speaker 4 15:01

No MSG.

Speaker 3 15:02

Exactly, they needed some MSG in it.

Speaker 4 15:05

I liked that show actually I mean, I would watch a couple of episodes and I felt like it came on right after right so they already had like the audience hooked into the show. But then you were like, but I don't know, that's just an old memory, maybe it's just because it was on like a random day that american idol was, not because we would like wait for american idol.

Speaker 3 15:21

I used, used to watch, so you Think you Can Dance when I would like stay at my maternal grandmother's house and she didn't have cable. She had like an antenna on her TV and like you'd have to move it around to get like a signal.

Speaker 4 15:34

Oh, that's what I had growing up.

Speaker 3 15:35

Oh really.

Speaker 4 15:36

Yeah, we were not fancy like that.

Speaker 3 15:38

Oh see, I didn't have that at home.

Speaker 4 15:39

Yeah, we didn't even really have a computer, like we had to use those at school. I'm still terrible with computers and it's all my mom's fault.

Speaker 3 15:46

Yeah, nobody thought.

Speaker 4 15:48

But honestly it probably saved us from a lot of drama. I mean, I don't know like how kids grow up these days with all the social media.

Speaker 3 15:55

It's just drama, and I'm pretty sure that's why I have bad vision, Because once I got a computer I was on it all the time, and then the next year they were like well, you need glasses.

Speaker 4 16:04

So yeah, yeah, that's a whole nother topic in itself is like cyber bullying and all.

Speaker 3 16:10

Oh, it's horrible, yeah yeah, so, yeah, well, also, one thing that I wanted to talk about was um the most like embarrassing thing, episode or like audition that you remember from like one of those shows what is there?

Speaker 4 16:32

one that comes to your mind, because I don't have one.

Speaker 3 16:34

Yeah, the one that comes to my mind is the one with that lady with red hair. I think she took ozempic, actually sharon osborne, the one where she, like, cannot stop laughing a bad name, though like that looks really bad.

Speaker 4 16:47

Like she looked, I feel, like she always looked like that. No, like she looks really like, like I know that she's old now because she's like really old I think she is. Is she like not in her, like her 70s or something? No way well, she looks like it now. With like the way that her face looks like, I didn't even think that she ever looked big, even before it was epic.

Speaker 4 17:07

Yeah, see, she's in her 70s yeah and then now it looks like she needs a little bit of the pillow face, you know, like the, the botox injection. She needs a little bit of that going on oh, and it can kind of balance her out. I've always liked her, though, so but yeah, I mean that she definitely, in my opinion, took it a little too far.

Speaker 3 17:24

But I don't know one thing about her. I just remember she's married to ozzy osbourne.

Speaker 4 17:28

Do you know who that is? Nope, oh my gosh, before you it's before my time. Even we're 10 years different.

Speaker 3 17:34

So yeah, I've heard of them.

Speaker 4 17:36

Like everyone knows who they are like he was a big rocker back in the day. He's like the one that bit off like a dove's head during a concert oh my gosh, do people like it?

Speaker 3 17:45

I mean, that's coming, that would be like that's coming to my mind.

Speaker 4 17:48

Yeah, that definitely castle culture. I don't know if that's a real thing, but for some reason I have a vague memory of that. That's crazy, I mean you should Google it and figure out if that's real. That's what's in my mind. He did something crazy. He's almost like the Lady Gaga of the time, like we wear a meat suit and stand out.

Speaker 3 18:05

Oh my gosh, what's his name. Oh my gosh, what's his name.

Speaker 4 18:07

Ozzy, some of these stars do the dumbest things, like the other day I saw one that was carrying a purse made of ice. No joke, it was like what is she doing? It's dripping everywhere. Really, it was like a fashion statement of some sort. How do you even make that? And then we got Kylie Jenner like wearing this huge lion head like on her. Have you seen that one?

Speaker 3 18:35

Oh, my gosh, vaguely remember seeing that it was a big thing. Oh, I, I didn't know it was a big thing. I was just like, oh interesting, I mean, they're just looking for ways to stand out. Obviously I know which is crazy, because everything they do just gets blown out of proportion anyway.

Speaker 4 18:39

So it's like you don't have to do something that crazy, yeah, to make the I think if it just starts to get boring or stagnant, they're like let's do something. What can I do? Let's put on a lion head and call it fashion. I know, that's so true next week I'll be a dog yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 18:55

Well, I can't find anything on ozzy osbourne biting off is that his name?

Speaker 4 18:59

ozzy ozzy osbourne, yeah wait.

Speaker 3 19:01

Is that who you said?

Speaker 4 19:02

yeah oh, okay did he do anything like that, like I don't know, it's just a memory like he did something crazy, it said.

Speaker 3 19:09

On march 27th of 1981, a brandy fueled ozzy osbourne shocked record company execs by decapitating a dead dove oh, so it was already dead that makes it a little, a little better.

Speaker 4 19:22

It's still weird. It's still not okay fresh chicken, but it has feathers yeah but people probably were like, oh, where did he get the dead dove from? Right yeah, how do you just find it?

Speaker 3 19:32

yeah I don't even see a live doves like so yeah, yeah he did it he suffocated at first yeah, I'm canceling him all these years later cancel culture, cancel culture cancel. Culture really is crazy too, if you think about it, because there are people who do like not a lot and get canceled, and there's people who do like horrible things horrible things, yeah, like I can't think of a single example right now, but yeah but we know that we've seen it yeah, yeah, it's just crazy if I thought about it for a minute, I'm sure I'd remember something yeah, like white chicks would be canceled now oh for for sure, like that's the most racist movie ever.

Speaker 3 20:11

Yeah, and it's one of the greatest movies of all time and it's so funny.

Speaker 4 20:14

It's crappy, crappy humor and I love it.

Speaker 3 20:16

Like it's so funny, like I want to watch it right now.

Speaker 4 20:18

I still make references to that movie to this day. Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 20:24

All the time In have ever chosen yep, like we can't top it now. We shouldn't have started off with that I know it was a cheap costume. It was like a wig and like some crappy makeup and some walmart purses, walmart purses, yeah yeah, with no money in them, by the way george brand yep george do you know?

Speaker 3 20:42

georgie. When I was a kid, my grandma did I tell you the story ever about. George, no, I don't know my grandma, she used to buy me clothes from Walmart and she would go get her clothes from like nice stores, you know like Nordstrom's and stuff, and then she'd buy me clothes from Walmart.

Speaker 4 20:59

Because she knew you're going to ruin them. Kids don't deserve nice things.

Speaker 3 21:02

Of course definitely not. But I didn't think that way at the time. So I knew it was George, so I, so I knew it was george, so I was like, oh, it's designer. You know, I was a high maintenance kid and then, when I was maybe like 11 or 12 I pieced together that it was from walmart and you were.

Speaker 3 21:19

I was so mad. Oh, I was hot oh my gosh, that's so funny, and my grandma thought it was funny because she's like you were with me, like we were in walmart. No, honestly, I believe that you would be oblivious to it.

Speaker 4 21:27

You didn't even know that you were even there. Yeah, we were in walmart. No, honestly, I believe that you would be oblivious to it. You didn't even know that you were even there. Yeah, you were in another little world.

Speaker 3 21:34

I didn't know about something else. I never know what's going on, so yeah so yeah, good days good times. Good times, okay. Well, what about politics? That seems like something. Oh no, don't get me started with that oh my gosh, don't get me started what do you think about the debates?

Speaker 4 21:55

both of them, yeah, the presidential and vice president this is like a show, like each one of these topics is like a full on show, because you're about to open pandora's box, I know like, do we want to get into that?

Speaker 3 22:06

I you know I hate talking about politics.

Speaker 4 22:07

I know you do. We want to get into that I.

Speaker 3 22:09

You know I hate talking about politics I know you do it feels right. Like I'm not choosing the topic, the topic's choosing me at this point. It just feels it feels right it does.

Speaker 4 22:19

Oh my gosh. You say right, right, it feels right.

Speaker 3 22:24

I'm about to take a bite of that politics yeah, let's have it because you were very involved in the political understanding world and I'm, so I would not say that I'm super involved. I just have my personal beliefs of what's going on but you have to be involved to even, like, have a belief, because I just don't know anything really like, I'm just kind of like oh, you do.

Speaker 4 22:45

I think that it's just I. I think in my early 20s I just didn't really care and it was just like, okay, it's not affecting. I think in my early 20s I just didn't really care and it was just like, okay, it's not affecting me. I think once you actually have your own business or you know, you've been working.

Speaker 3 22:58

I don't think that fits well with me.

Speaker 4 22:59

Wait, wait. I don't mean that, no shade here, I'm just saying once you actually see that your money doesn't go as far and you notice that your bank account is not as great as it used to be and that one person gets a job and ruins everything Gas, water, air everything.

Speaker 4 23:20

All in three and a half years. And this guy, aka Joe Sleepy Joe, he literally like where has he been? Like has any? Was he a president? Like in all reality. Was he a president? Like in all reality. Was he a president?

Speaker 4 23:33

I know, like you, you can't even paint him as something else. It's like the dude's either falling or tripping upstairs, or he's eating ice cream or he's on a beach and that's literally all we saw. And it's like, wait a minute, like where are these press conferences? And when he does them, he doesn't know what he's saying. He fumbles over every word and then it finally came down to this debate and then it was like, okay, we can't hide you anymore, you have to actually get on stage. It looks like they drugged him up a good amount and then he literally could not remember anything. He was not keeping up on anything. And then don't, then don't even get me started. Now, people that are on you know the democratic party. I actually feel bad for them. It's like now we have a laughing hyena as an option. That literally has caused all the problems with him. That's been lying to the american people, saying that he is just fine. Okay, honey, like we have our own eyes.

Speaker 3 24:30

You literally have to have no brain, or your brain is like completely fried from drugs something I think they're still saying he's fine too, because I haven't like they made it a big deal that like you had to drop out really fast, but I never heard anything for like yeah he's not fine and then all of a sudden it's like now we're canceling you, like you didn't do well enough, so now we have to cancel you because we can no longer hide you yeah

Speaker 4 24:54

and so now like but nothing to see here, folks, it's been like that for the past three and a half years, like almost four years. It's like what it's odd. So in all reality, I mean, yeah, you can hate the other option, but like, at least see what you're actually voting for. And then, to top it off, another reason I feel bad is that they don't even have a choice. It's like okay, we chose this laughing hyena for you. It's like what. We didn't vote her in. In fact, she was like one of the most unpopular people.

Speaker 3 25:24

And then she gets voted in by no choice of the people although it does kind of make sense, because if you vote for him and something happens and then he can't be the president anymore, you would be voting for her to take his place.

Speaker 4 25:38

So it kind of makes sense that yeah but he chose that option right, like he chose his running mate. So it's like, okay, so that's who we want to follow, kind of thing, but now like to start the lead again and now you're just forced to vote for her as your option. I mean, there were a lot of Democrats that wanted to run right in it before all the debates and all that stuff, but they they had to go through all that process that she never had to go through and from my understanding of all the donors they took. The only way to keep that money that was going to Joe was to throw someone that was the running mate with him. And I don't think she stood a chance, to be honest. Like would she have been voted in had she started running early on If Joe was like I'm not running next term, but no, he kept saying I'm definitely running, and I think he really thought he was running. And then they were like we're running you into the ground, old man.

Speaker 3 26:31

And then there's the laughing hyena and she's like, oh, here I am, I love yellow school buses have you ever seen like interviews or not interviews, but just like, I guess video clips of joe biden before his term, like his this term? It doesn't look like the same person. He was like a normal person.

Speaker 4 26:52

I'm not saying he's a great dude, but he could like handle his own right and he he almost looked like he was like a decent looking guy too, like okay, like he had like a pretty.

Speaker 4 27:01

He was a pretty good looking guy at one point right like he was fine just talking in front of people, like he knew his stuff, yeah, and he was able to argue even yeah and so, and then it was like all of a sudden it was like he was gone, like once he got actually into office it was like the dude was gone, like nowhere to be seen, like there's no joe here. It's like he goes to bed at four o'clock. Good luck, everybody else good luck everybody else true, true.

Speaker 3 27:27

So what about, like the, the vice presidential debate? What did you think?

Speaker 4 27:32

I thought that that was a fair debate, like the the recent one, because they both felt like they were coherent for one yeah and so and so anyways.

Speaker 3 27:42

So, yeah, tim was really a struggle to watch for me, so I feel like they gave them both like a fair amount of like what's the word?

Speaker 4 27:56

like they called them out on things yeah, I felt like that and I felt like it was a fair debate, like overall. But if I was to pick a side of who won, I definitely, even if I was to jump out, I would say jd definitely was someone that you could listen to and it was like, okay, you make sense. And the other guy was like I was just a knucklehead and I don't have a reason of why I lied about that, and it was just a weird, like a weird feeling did he seem more like genuine and like he believed what he was saying and I love that he was calling them out on there like, well, since we're, we said we're not fact checking.

Speaker 4 28:27

And since you're gonna fact check, let me also fact check you I liked that. Yeah, but they tried to cut off his microphone, so that was the only part where I was like that's obviously not fair. So if we want to do some fact checking, then let's fact check both sides.

Speaker 3 28:39

Good for him though, because I would have thought about that later. I've been like oh shoot. I should have said that you know right no, I mean yeah, these people are amazing.

Speaker 4 28:47

That, like I mean, you can even get up and like the pressure that they all have to have In front of the whole world.

Speaker 3 28:52

It's not even just America.

Speaker 4 28:53

It's the whole world that like watches these things, you know.

Speaker 4 28:57

So, yeah, I mean, I felt like that one was more fair. The other one, with Trump and Kamala, I felt like at least she was answering her script, like I felt like she was very good with keeping up with a script and like they had really good things for her to say. But I did feel like that he she was debating like trump, and I felt like the two moderators they were both also debating trump, so it kind of felt like it was three against one um. But I do believe that trump knew his stuff. It was just like, okay, well, how do we keep up with this when you guys just keep on saying, well, no, that's not true, or that's not true, and then they later on fact check. I'm like actually it is true and actually this is true, and it's just like so one sided. So I felt like it was very one sided, but it's, there's no way that he would ever like be there or no way he would ever be voted in. And then it's like more than half or more than half, we don't know, because there's so much voter fraud that goes on um actually vote for him.

Speaker 4 30:04

Or like we're like in the background, like we just don't want to sit there and make the drama, but we're like, uh, we appreciated our america while he was in charge. We appreciated our, our, our bank accounts. We yeah, we appreciated our grocery prices and our gas prices. And we can actually see the facts where you know. They say, well, we, he's lying to you. And it's like, uh, facts can't lie if you're living the life. It's like almost saying like, well, we can put you in this delusion that everything's better under Joe. No, it's not. And you have to say, ok, well, now that we have all these flat tires, do we fix them or do we just keep going Like, no, it's time to fix the tire. I don't care what choice it would be. Even if it wasn't Trump, I would.

Speaker 3 30:46

If I say that I did vote for joe, which I did not because I never liked him, if I did vote for the guy, I would drop and run like you need to run, like you can't cover up how bad that was, and you'd have to be a complete moron to say that he did a good job or that they did a good job together yeah, I saw a video today and it's and it was about oh, I told you about it that mom who, like, killed her husband and now she's in prison or something in cottonwood heights oh yeah, you told me about it.

Speaker 4 31:19

I didn't know much about it. What happened?

Speaker 3 31:21

I don't know much about it either, honestly, because I was a quick scroll but so I'll just look that up later yeah, but um, it was crazy because in the comments people were like well, because in the story they said that it was a well-off family because their home is just shy of a million dollars. And then someone commented and was like that's not back in 2000?

Speaker 4 31:43

what?

Speaker 3 31:44

yeah. Well, they were like that's not you, you don't have to be well off to have a house at that price in utah now. And someone was like it just became a big debate and right, it's like they back in.

Speaker 4 31:55

When they bought that house, it was only 250 000 yeah, well, and now with inflation.

Speaker 3 31:59

You know, four years later it's worth a million dollars yeah, well, if you buy it before, if you bought a house before 2019, then you're. You could be a millionaire now, right, based off the price of your house alone, and you could have paid any amount under a million and it could easily be a million now yeah, or say.

Speaker 4 32:17

Or say that you bought a house that was a million dollars and now, all of a sudden, it's basically worth two million or three.

Speaker 3 32:23

Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 4 32:24

It's crazy and it's the same house that needs renovations and so like I think, like the what the, the mid price for a home in Utah now is like $500,000 or $600,000.

Speaker 3 32:34

I think it's $600,000.

Speaker 4 32:35

Last I checked it was like it's probably like $530,000 is my guess. I don't know, though, fact check me.

Speaker 3 32:43

It's well, according to whatever website I'm looking at, it's $516,000 for the the average home and you I was on the money.

Speaker 4 32:53

Yeah, what did you say? I said 530.

Speaker 3 32:55

Oh, what did I say?

Speaker 4 32:57

I think you said I think I said 516 no, I think you said I'm pretty sure I said 516, you said like 590 or 600.

Speaker 3 33:03

We can rewind this later.

Speaker 4 33:05

Rewind 150 is that even a thing like on a computer rewind? Like or do you say play it back, because like I'm thinking of, like I say rewind, like what do you think I would?

Speaker 3 33:16

say like oh gosh, I don't know what would I say like play it back, that's or like I just say, go back, yeah, I just go back to this, yeah, but it's not because we're not rewinding like a vhs, like yeah, but that's what I'm saying, like we can anyways I used to have one of those aging myself quite well here yeah, well, I don't think it was that long ago, honestly, like I feel like when people had yeah, vhs, yeah, well, I guess maybe it was a long time, even when I was a kid, I remember dvd players were more common yeah, but they used to sell those tvs at the d and the VCR, yeah, and they'd always break.

Speaker 3 33:51

Yeah, oh, they broke so fast they always did. That's crazy, and I bet they weren't that cheap for the time. Probably not, you know, because TVs used to be expensive. It was state of the art to have both. Yeah, and those like big screens were like thousands of dollars.

Speaker 4 34:05

Oh, a nice TV. My grandma had like the whole collection of VHS of Disney movies. So that's why we had them for so long, because we loved the Disney movies.

Speaker 3 34:12

That's cute, and you guys used to watch them together.

Speaker 4 34:14

Oh yeah, All of us.

Speaker 3 34:16

Oh, that's cute.

Speaker 4 34:19

And the Shirley Temple movies. Don't forget that. And my Fair Lady, we watched all the oldies because of her.

Speaker 3 34:24

I've never seen any of those. You Any?

Speaker 4 34:26

of those, you haven't even really seen most Disney movies I've seen a lot of Disney movies. You haven't seen a lot, though You've seen a lot of the new ones, like the classics, I'll wait.

Unraveling the Mystery of Britney Spears

Speaker 3 34:35

Pinocchio yeah, I've never seen that. I knew it. You got me there. Oh my gosh. I just feel like Disney movies are kind of like overrated.

Speaker 4 34:48

I feel like they were a history of my childhood and if you didn't watch disney movies, you just didn't have a childhood. Because, like, how can you appreciate disneyland?

Speaker 3 34:58

I, and maybe that's why I don't care for disneyland.

Speaker 4 35:01

Yeah, because it's like deeply rooted it like brings back the kid in you.

Speaker 3 35:05

But if you never have the kid in you, then you don't care for disneyland yeah, because I went to disney world with you for the first time as an adult and it wasn't like, and I've never been to disneyland? Yeah, it wasn't. It just felt expensive and it felt time consuming and hot and it felt like the lines were crazy long they are.

Speaker 4 35:23

All those things are true, but the spirit of disney is there, yeah, I actually liked uh disneyland better than I like disney world I've heard that, because I've heard it's less chaotic well, it just feels like it's like more like home, like you just feel like it's like more cozy in california there and it's cheaper too, right I don't know honestly see, because I didn't book the tickets it probably is cheaper because it's like a bigger resort versus a smaller resort type thing. Yeah, that's what.

Speaker 3 35:50

I would think I will say at the end of the night, when we were on that boat and you could see like we were going in the water packed our car. That was beautiful.

Speaker 4 36:00

Oh, I don't even remember that you don't, no?

Speaker 3 36:02

Oh, it was beautiful. We all got on this boat and it took us from one park back to another park so we could go to our car over water, and it was just it was absolutely gorgeous.

Speaker 4 36:12

I don't remember because there's so many disney things that I loved.

Speaker 3 36:15

Going on, yeah there was a lot going on. You know someone's at the door, I know. I hear that because you didn't silence your phone time to go commercial break break. No, yeah, I forgot where we left off. Yeah, no one was there, so I want to talk about britney cares, let it be, just let that whole mess be.

Speaker 4 36:48

No, okay, okay, sorry, brittany. Yeah, you know that she's dead, like she cannot be alive.

Speaker 3 36:54

So I'm obsessed with Brittany Spears.

Speaker 4 36:57

And I feel like she's been dead for who knows how long.

Speaker 3 37:01

And I feel like she was done extra, extra dirty and I just don't know if I really believe she's dead or not yet. And I just don't know if I really believe she's dead or not yet. It is weird that someone as big as her, who had people following her every move for like years and years and years and years, just disappears and nobody can see her.

Speaker 4 37:20

And there's a lot of people who want and then and then all she has is like an old iphone that like takes really grady pictures and like she's dancing weird and like one spot of her house for the rest of her life. Yeah, after she's free, she's dancing in the corner of the prison that she's been living in for the rest of her life. That doesn't make any sense. Yeah, like like make sense of that. So there's either one of two things she's either dead, or that's not her, or sorry. One of three things. Or the third thing is is that she is alive, but still in the conservatorship, but making people think that she's free, and they totally she's not. But I personally believe. What I personally believe is that she's dead like there's no way.

Speaker 3 38:00

Why would? How could she be in the conservatorship still? And why would? If they wanted people to believe that she was out of it, wouldn't they let her out more, instead of, like, making her even more secluded than she already was?

Speaker 4 38:12

Right. So that's why she's not out of it, like there's no way she's actually out of it. That's why I think she's dead, because no one's going to fight for their freedom like she was supposedly doing. I think that the fans were just driving them crazy because they were doing all those protests and everything, and then they're like, hmm well, we have to kill her now and then pretend like she's still alive so they go away.

Speaker 3 38:33

She had real videos when she first got out of the conservatorship too, or whatever. She had a video of her being like thank you so much. You guys saved my life. And then all of a sudden, she's gone, yeah, and then it's just like okay, like and then she has a book come out where they make all these millions of dollars.

Speaker 4 38:48

But like, why isn't she on oprah? Like, why isn't she what? Like? I know that that girl could have been offered like more money. She even made in her entire career. Just to have a conversation with her just to tell that story, yeah, and then like, tell us about your new book and like, of course that's something you go and do and like promote yourself. But no, like she's just like here's a tweet, guys go read my book. Huh, I'm britney. Yeah, it's britney bitch. I promise it's britney, it's really britney bitch it's really britney.

Speaker 3 39:17

I wonder if her kids know I.

Speaker 4 39:19

That's the thing. I felt like they were so estranged and who knows what happened in that relationship, her life was so controlled. I personally believe that those people probably sent out fake things to that. She was saying to them that wasn't even true, to make sure that they were estranged from each other and then now the damage is just and the damage is just so done, and then vice versa.

Speaker 4 39:40

But they were sending stuff to her and she was thinking oh, my kids are awful, or whatever you know. So it's just all a weird big mess.

Speaker 3 39:49

But don't you think that, even if that were the case, that they still would be like hey, this is weird. Everyone's talking about my mom.

Speaker 4 39:56

I haven't seen her in a long time, yeah they that their relationship was so toxic that they could care less to ever see her again. That's, and I think that we all kind of have people like that in our life. You know, yeah, or that I've had past tense where you're like I don't really care to ever see you again, like you're super toxic but if, like, the whole world was like looking for that person, don't you think I know I can go?

Disappearance of Pop Icons

Speaker 4 40:19

and now, now they're probably feeling like they're out of money, right, because they're all over 18 and cut off from child support. So now I'd be like, yeah, can we do an interview about my mom? Yeah, right, I'm willing to talk. Who's willing to pay me the big bucks? I have news. I'll tell you all the good stuff. Yeah, feel like she's gone, long gone. I really just I kind of just refuse to believe it. I don't want to believe it either, because part of me still loves that like super pretty, sexy britney. That was just so amazing to watch and I don't know why. Like what was so great about her?

Speaker 4 40:51

she was just so pretty, she was just like the, like the, the star of, like an era it was just the era like but she was a good dancer and her music was catchy. It was it was, she had good writers yeah she was like no, she definitely was talented. I'm not saying she was, she was a good entertainer. But, like I was like what is it that we why do like? Are we like everyone?

Speaker 4 41:09

obsessed brainwashed with you, like why do we still love you? I know, even after all these years you haven't even done like a performance in how many years and we're still like talking about you.

Speaker 3 41:19

It's bizarre well, and it's like weird too, because if you look at her from like the late 90s all the way to like 2006, she looks the same, like it's the same person. And then you get to 2007 and she still looks the same, but you can tell like she's more stressed and then she shaved her head and stuff. And then you get to 2008 and 2009 and it's like she still looks the same. She just looks like now she's an adult, like aged yeah, and then you get to like 2011 and 12 and you're like, oh, she's having some surgeries. And then you get to like 2014 it's like the surgeries went away.

Speaker 4 41:50

Now it doesn't even look good anymore.

Speaker 1 41:52

It's like what happened to britney and like why does?

Speaker 4 41:54

this and why does she have like messed up teeth now like, and who does? Why does her makeup never done and why is her hair like always looking like extensions falling out?

Speaker 3 42:02

everywhere. It doesn't even look the same and people are like oh yeah. Well, you know, like she's just older and I'm like that doesn't make any but none of it.

Speaker 4 42:08

Like I mean, look at christina aguilera, like come on, like all of a sudden she like hit rewind and they were in the exact same and she looks incredible. Now, like clearly on ozempic, like she looks good, yeah, um, and I heard that she had a facelift, which cool. I'd probably do it too if I was starting to look saggy. Like why not? Yeah, if you have the money to do it and you want to do it, like you do your thing and hers all looks, she looks and it looks natural.

Speaker 4 42:33

Yeah, like it looks, she looks incredible, like I think she almost looks prettier now than she ever did. Oh, to me she definitely it's like what?

Speaker 3 42:40

like britney was a pretty one in her era? Oh, totally. And now? She's the pretty now she's the pretty one out of them. It's crazy and mandy moore. What about her?

Speaker 4 42:50

what about her?

Speaker 3 42:51

I just she's. That's a good example she like disappeared. Yeah, I think she's like just so big, and then mandy moore, who I don't know.

Speaker 4 42:59

I feel like mandy moore never sold her soul. Like I feel like brit, like Britney sold her soul. Like when you look at, if I look at her Instagram, I'm like this girl is gone like there's no soul there. But it could just be all the medications they gave her. Who knows whose fault it really is. They cried her proud.

Speaker 3 43:14

I've read a lot about this yeah, mental health.

Speaker 4 43:16

Oh my gosh. Who knows what they did to her or what happened to her? Naturally because of her own mental health. I mean, people are born with things and they don't get it until later on in life. So hers was I think I I think so too, and I think that it was a lot of money came into involvement there. I think it's all seemed shady how does she make money now?

Speaker 4 43:35

I don't even know. That's what I'm saying. I don't know if she's even alive and she has so much residual income, I'm sure, from all kinds of things that still come in much to be keeping up with the lifestyle that she's always had but what lifestyle. She doesn't go anywhere. We don't see anything from her. She's living in the same house that should have been paid off in 2001.

Speaker 3 43:52

Yeah, that's true. Yeah, because she bought it like 2015 and she had some huge deals since then right, and that book supposedly made millions and millions of dollars.

Speaker 4 44:00

That was maybe one of her, her things where she's like, yeah, I'll make lots of money if she's alive.

Speaker 3 44:05

And she and her husband settled in court, even though he wasn't supposed to get anything, because they were a prenup Right. But it dragged on long enough that they could settle.

Speaker 4 44:13

Right.

Speaker 3 44:14

Yeah, she's probably gone. Poor, thing, that's sad. I love her. Leave Brittany alone.

Speaker 4 44:27

I loved her. I still love her. I have love for the old britney. I don't even know what that like. Honestly, it just doesn't feel like it's the same person. If it is, and she's just like messed up now, like I still love her, but what I see on instagram it's like this is not her like, not even like. Okay, it sounds so conspiracy, but I feel like it's like a double.

Speaker 3 44:44

That it's really bad, a really bad double I watched a video of hers well, it wasn't of hers, but it was of her and she was car shopping and people like recently no, it was a long time ago see like she doesn't do anything. Normal anymore, I know, but she was car shopping and there were just so many people swarming the dealership just taking pictures of her the whole time, like she's just like right, just mind her own business. And then she gets in the car and she drives off and like people are booking it to their cars to like follow her. People are running down the street and now, all of a sudden, nobody's seen her in years, never. Like how do you go from that to just like, oh, I don't know where she is right, and then you have to.

Speaker 4 45:20

And the only reason I can still think that that might be the same person is because if you see amanda binds and like what she looks like now and her way she acts and her brain and stuff. It's sad. It's really, really sad. And she's in a conservatorship. So I honestly it could be her, but and I, I don't know, I just part of me just feels like there's no way you could still be alive, because at least amanda binds is like getting on and like you can totally rough.

Speaker 3 45:44

See that that is her it still looks like, it's like yeah it's just really really bad yeah, well, not even letting yourself go necessarily. It's like her brain's gone, like it's like really fried which is so sad it is sad I saw a video where she said she wants to be a nail tech. I hope she gets.

Speaker 4 45:59

Oh my gosh, I saw that too, and I was like, oh my gosh, who got out the sharpie and drew on your eyebrows today, girl?

Speaker 3 46:06

because I know what are they doing that to you for poor thing? And she was beautiful. I know she really pretty talented.

Speaker 4 46:12

She was, I know, super good actress and she was yeah, it's just crazy. And then lindsey lohan like made a comeback, like she's looking snatched now and she's in so many movies.

Speaker 4 46:22

All of a sudden conservatorship too they did, and I think that she just kind of broke free and was like I'm not gonna live well, I think it was her dad that was like no, you're not doing that to my? Daughter good, if I remember correctly yeah, and maybe she made some big mistakes during that time hanging out with britney she would have been easy to put in one oh she was like a hot mess oh yeah, I don't know much about her, but I think that she looks great now.

Speaker 4 46:41

She looks so good, she looks healthy, not even necessarily that she's just beautiful, but she looks healthy mentally she also looks better than she ever did, I know.

Speaker 1 46:50

She's looking so good.

Speaker 3 46:52

That's crazy. Paris Hilton looks really good too, actually.

Speaker 4 46:54

Yeah, paris Hilton looks good. She hasn't really aged, yeah, but I don't think she was as pretty when she was younger yeah, she's prettier.

Speaker 3 47:09

Now too, yeah, they all just like got really pretty. They like did some face balancing, some surgeries, some good ones, yeah, okay. Well, last thing I want to talk about is dinks I've never heard of what is dinks I just heard it sounds weird, recently it does it sounds kind of gross. So it stands for dual income. No kids so it's parents. Oh wait, it's people who are not parents but couples, and they just live their best life because they don't have to pay for kids interesting yeah, it's really interesting.

Speaker 3 47:38

So a lot of people think that it's just like. They want each other's company. But they're just like. But we don't want to have to deal with any responsibilities, like kids or anything. And there are these married couples or yeah, well, not always, but yeah, and they just, they just, it's just a thing, like it's so popular that it's actually a thing Interesting, isn't that crazy?

Education System and Student Debt

Speaker 4 48:01

That is interesting. So for me, like I can see it both ways. So having kids like for me, like obviously there's like a few restrictions here and there, but the joys of having kids and like the push that it has on you as a providing parent to become better and like live better and like make your kids dreams come true along with your own, of course, I think that it made me like enjoy life more in every way, like every way, and then at the end of the day, it's like you have your built-in best friends, you have the built-in caregiver that will come see you in the old folks home like well hopefully I mean theoretically, if your, your kids, love you, which I hope mine will by then, um, but yeah, I think for me it like helped push me, like in business and everything Like it's helped me have success.

Speaker 3 48:47

So right, but I can see how people yeah, yeah, you can't beat them enough.

Speaker 4 48:54

Yeah, I mean, for me it was like, oh, I didn't feel like I was deserving, but I knew that they were. So, even though I didn't have the highest self-esteem growing up with that, it was like, okay, well, I may not, may not deserve it in myself, but I know that they do, and so it just helped me, like, force me out of any of my like insecurities, because I did, I was fighting for them. And I think that gives you something to fight for.

Speaker 1 49:17

Yeah.

Speaker 3 49:17

So, I was talking to a guy that guy that I gave a ride to last night and he basically said that because we were talking about the education system and just how it's due for some change, for some reform, and he said that Shoot.

Speaker 4 49:35

We need to go back to smacking kids' hands with rulers Right.

Speaker 3 49:38

He said that it actually is kind of better now than it was at a time and I was like what do you mean? I feel like it's only gotten better and it still sucks. And he was like no, because at a time education wasn't like mandatory, like people that didn't have money would just send their kids off to work and they would be. There was child labor, and that was just what you did, like oh, your parents are poor, so you're going to work and it was fine. And that's crazy to me. Yeah, but that's so true, like we have to go to school and we hate it, like as kids.

Speaker 4 50:08

You know, most kids but how much further would we be in like every aspect, if people had the option to.

Speaker 3 50:16

I don't think very far. I think that we would, because in all reality.

Speaker 4 50:18

A lot of kids don't want to be there and they end up not working jobs that would require school ever anyways.

Speaker 3 50:24

But like what would you do?

Speaker 4 50:26

But I think there are definitely like the excuse to the rule, right, because there's obviously kids that might have been forced to work, born in a really poor family, yeah, and they could have become a doctor or whatever they wanted to do, yeah.

Speaker 3 50:39

Or just something great.

Speaker 4 50:41

You know a business owner and they created something big, but instead they were out at the fields yeah, I still feel kind of gray with that area because now, with the way that it is, it's like okay, like every, there's no kids that would ever be able to go to school, because, like, so many people are struggling now and like middle class is gone.

Speaker 4 50:59

It's like if you're not in the top one percent, you're struggling like you're either one or the other um so, yeah, I feel like that's good that they passed that law, but at the same time it's kind of well, I also feel like people like myself.

Speaker 3 51:16

for example, I think if I were in high school or junior high and I had been given the option to not go to school, I wouldn't have and I don't know that I would have done anything super productive with my time. I think I would have just sat at home.

Speaker 4 51:28

Yeah, but now there's so many things that you can do to build your own business. I feel, like kids, like people, everyone that if a school really wants success, I think that they need to teach us how to finance. They need to teach us about finance. They need to teach us about finance. They need to teach us about taxes. They need to teach us about like all these different things like how to do a startup, like how to create your own company, how to make money from nothing, how to use social media at your fingertips. I think that if we're actually going to get somewhere, you know, then that's what they need to be teaching, not well?

Speaker 4 52:02

X plus Y equals Z, didn't you know? It's like why?

Speaker 3 52:06

And they teach you like to go to school, so you can get done with school and go to school.

Speaker 4 52:11

Exactly, and then? Once you're done with school, then you can work and you'll never be anything unless you go, yeah, and it's like uh, I never went to college, never went to college. I graduated high school because I was forced to, you know, because I had other things I wanted to do that required a diploma, but it wasn't for work, it wasn't for a career right so, and then now with my peers and stuff, like I don't know anyone that's more successful, I mean, than me and my immediate family right I mean money wise and that's not and that's not and that's not like boast, but it's like at the same time, it's like and I was told that I would be nothing, even by my own parents.

Speaker 4 52:47

I remember my dad was always like you're gonna be flipping burgers if you don't go to school, and I was like I can do it a different way. Dad, yeah, and you know, and I and I broke out of that, luckily for myself. So, but I I mean not to like downplay school. I think it's important. I'm glad that I learned my basics so that I could do what I'm doing.

Speaker 3 53:04

But it's not a one size fits all.

Speaker 4 53:06

Yeah, but it shouldn't be like made to be like oh, you're going to be completely ruined if you don't go to school or you don't go to college.

Speaker 1 53:13

Yeah.

Speaker 4 53:14

It's like the only way you can succeed is if you start out life with $500,000 of debt. I know If they of debt, you know. I know. If they're gonna require school like that, then they should just make college free for anyone that wants to go I watched it just needs to be like a state paid thing and they need to not overcharge for everything like. This book is five billion dollars and you need it for this class and it's like what?

Speaker 3 53:36

why everything's online now, people right yeah, I used to um follow all these like reddit forums and stuff about people who were in debt with student loans from, like, med school or dental school or whatever, and there were people who were 500 000 to a million dollars in debt yeah, and surprised me at all and they would honestly say that they were contemplating suicide. Oh my gosh, because yeah, the pressure. They were like I don't know how I'm ever going to get out of this.

Speaker 4 54:02

And then you feel like you're locked into this cage of like, okay, you might jump into that career and you might hate it.

Speaker 3 54:07

And then you think, well, if I give up now, I've already worked for this, I have no other options or you don't finish, because sometimes they don't, even they're not, and then you're stuck with that debt forever because you realize you want to do something different yeah, or you can't do it anymore, like it's just you physically can't go to school anymore and you're like, well, you still have two more years. You're almost done, but you're not. You're really not almost done because you have more to do. Once you get done with school, you're just like never done. And then, once you're actually done, you're still not done, because now you owe a million dollars and the interest on that.

Speaker 3 54:36

The interest on a million dollars in student loan debt. Like that's just crazy.

Speaker 4 54:41

And what honestly did they do for your education to require you to pay that much money? That's where I feel like it's a scam, I know, and that's where I feel like someone needs to flip that on its head and I feel like the education system could be so much more successful.

Speaker 3 54:55

And you can get a student loan at like 18 with no credit history. Like you can't even get a freaking credit card with no credit history Like you can't even get a freaking credit card, but you can get a student loan.

Speaker 1 55:03

Oh, I know Any amount Like oh the school said it's $100,000 this semester.

Speaker 4 55:06

We'll give it to you. There you go.

Speaker 3 55:07

But you can't get a credit card with a $500 limit because you don't have a credit history.

Speaker 4 55:10

Yeah, and you don't know anything about credit or credit cards because you weren't taught that in school. You a hundred thousand dollars for school. It's crazy, yeah, so that is.

Speaker 3 55:26

That is the way that it is. It's with cookie crumbles. I also think it's like hard because a lot of kids won't go to school so there you go.

Speaker 4 55:30

There's a business idea the cookie crumbles crumble cookie. Like that was just a guy and his one idea and he made cookies. And guess what? He made a business out of it yeah, that's so I don't know the details of that. Maybe he went to college for business, who knows?

Speaker 3 55:42

I don't know I don't know either. I know he went to utah state and then he and his cousin made cookies and I guess they just really liked him. I don't know how they got that off the ground yeah because I don't either. I don't know how I would do that even now, and the idea is already there right, right.

Speaker 4 55:57

so that's. I think that's what we need to be teaching kids.

Speaker 3 56:00

Yeah, yeah, we need to be teaching that, and like tax loopholes, because there's no reason that people should have to pay taxes the way that they do.

Speaker 4 56:08

Oh I know, but that's the thing they don't want you to know, so that you can pay the most. And then the richest people obviously hire people to say, hey, cut them down, next to nothing.

Speaker 3 56:21

And everyone gets taxed. That's what's crazy Like. If I make some money, the person who pays me got taxed, and then I get taxed on the money that they paid me and then when I pay you, you'll get taxed on the money I pay you. It just keeps getting taxed.

Speaker 4 56:32

Over and, over and over again. And then you buy a car and you have to pay taxes on it and that company has to pay taxes on the car. Someone could pay taxes on that car like 40 times. I know, by the time, the life of that car.

Speaker 3 56:47

That's true, that's crazy, it is.

Speaker 4 56:50

And then yet we're still trillions of dollars in debt. Like something someone at the top is really winning and they need to start losing. I think so too.

Speaker 3 56:59

We need to flip this around. Yeah, I now I feel like those people that are like tax the rich but it's not even that exactly.

Speaker 4 57:06

I think that it's just getting it done right, like you know, clearly, like the politics that are in charge are not doing as good, no so I think that it starts at the top, but it's not necessarily them that the rich that's the problem. I feel like it's just the system that's the problem I don't think that rich people should be punished because they made more money no, definitely not so.

Speaker 3 57:28

But you get people that are like politicians, who make like 150 000 a year, yet their net worth is like 30 million yeah, and it's like make that.

Speaker 4 57:35

Yeah, look at nasty, I mean nancy pelosi, yep, exactly that's a game to mind yeah, like oh my gosh, that old hag has so much money and she's so grumpy and gross she looks like yzma oh my gosh off of that person who grew I mean, I don't even yeah and she's worth hundreds of millions of dollars. Like how yeah, how your it's like your salary is like two hundred thousand dollars a year yeah it's so, and Did you see that whole thing with the Visa?

Speaker 3 58:03

Oh yeah.

Speaker 4 58:05

The Visa stock. She sold it. Trump said that she should be charged for insider trading because the day before her husband sells all this millions of dollars of Visa stock Like what?

Speaker 3 58:17

How is she not charged?

Speaker 4 58:19

Wasn't it Martha.

Speaker 3 58:20

Stewart.

Speaker 1 58:21

Yeah, she went to prison for that and it was her own business.

Fixing National Debt With Accountability

Speaker 4 58:25

Yep, exactly so that's crazy. It is, it's, it's pretty crazy. So I I just think that, obviously, like we need to figure out, like I said, who's at the top that shouldn't be there, and honestly like it's.

Speaker 4 58:37

I can't remember what businessman said it, but basically he said okay, like you know how to fix the national debt. And people are like he's like I have one quick answer. He's like you put people in charge and then you give them a year to do something about it and if they don't, you fire them and you repeat, hiring someone else until they fix the problem. He's like we don't keep reelecting and keep keeping the garbage.

Speaker 4 59:02

Yeah, you don't do that. He's like we don't keep reelecting and keep keeping the garbage. Yeah, you don't do that. He's like that's how I'm a billionaire. I've made sure to keep the people in charge that belong there. You don't just keep putting people in place that are not fixing a problem. Yeah, that's true. So I mean, yeah, it's like common sense is not that common anymore.

Speaker 3 59:20

That's so true, okay, well. Well, I think we're probably gonna end this now. Okay, we're gonna insert a cool outro. I don't know what it's gonna be yet, but what that's mcdonald's no trademark issues there none okay, well, bye, guys bye you're listening to indiscreet banter.

Speaker 1 59:43

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