17 18 19 Redshirting Education
Based on the forthcoming book "17 18 19: Redshirting Education" by John Chavez
Bio of John Chavez
Retired 20+ year High Educator, 27 years as a Football & Baseball Coach, Currently TV High School Football Commentator. Father of three adult sons, older two have graduated from college, youngest a sophomore in college.
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17 18 19 Redshirting Education
Episode 3: Building the Foundations of Success for the Next Generation
Unlock the secrets to equipping children with the skills they need for a lifetime of success beyond just academics. Ever wonder why some kids thrive while others struggle? We promise that by the end of this episode, you'll understand the critical role of reading fluency by third grade, the foundational importance of early math and spatial reasoning, and the ways in which curiosity and informed citizenship can be nurtured through science and social studies. With practical advice for fostering independent learning habits, this episode is your go-to guide for preparing kids for the future.
But that's just the beginning. We also tackle how to cultivate grit and a growth mindset in young minds, showing how passion and perseverance can trump natural talent. We dive into actionable strategies for parents to help their kids stay motivated, set achievable goals, and embrace creativity without the pressure of expectations. Whether it's about setting up a study routine or simply encouraging exploration, the insights shared here aim to support parents in guiding their children to discover and pursue what they truly love. Join us as we unravel these essential parenting secrets that could redefine success for the next generation.
Hey, everyone, welcome back. So you know how we all secretly hope our kids are going to be like the next. I don't know tech genius or win a Nobel Prize or something.
Speaker 2:Of course, Every parent's dream right.
Speaker 1:Totally. But it's like, what can we actually do to, you know, encourage that, besides just crossing our fingers and hoping for the best, especially when they're little?
Speaker 2:Right, it's not like wishing on a birthday candle.
Speaker 1:Exactly so. That's what we're diving into today those essential skills that really set kids up for success, and I'm not just talking about acing every spelling test.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. We're going way beyond the report card here. We've actually got a ton of research that shows how certain skills, especially those learned early on, are linked to some really incredible long term outcomes. Ok, like you're going to have to give us the goods, Think graduating college having a higher earning potential, even just being a more well-rounded, adaptable person. It's all connected.
Speaker 1:Wow, okay, so sign me up. But let's break it down. Where do we even begin? What are the magic ingredients here?
Speaker 2:Well, the research points to six key academic areas as being super important for building that strong foundation, and we'll start with a couple of obvious ones. Well, they seem obvious right Reading and literacy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, those seem like no-brainers.
Speaker 2:They are, but there's this whole fascinating layer of nuance here. For example, did you know that kids who read fluently by third grade are statistically four times more likely to graduate high school on time? And that, my friend, is a huge factor in future success?
Speaker 1:Wow, four times. That's insane.
Speaker 2:It is. It's not just about enjoying a good story although we love that too, of course but it literally unlocks so many doors for them later in life.
Speaker 1:So it's about giving them those tools early on, not just to, you know, bark out the words, but to truly comprehend and use information 100%, which I'm guessing ties into the next big one, mathematics.
Speaker 2:You got it. Math is key, but again, it's not just about you know, memorizing multiplication tables or whatever.
Speaker 1:Right, because who even uses long division anymore?
Speaker 2:Exactly, it's about those early math skills, especially focusing on problem solving and applying concepts in different situations. Those are what really translate into those higher level thinking skills we want them to have down the road.
Speaker 1:So it's more about helping them see how math applies in like real world scenarios, not just textbook problems.
Speaker 2:Precisely. It's about making those connections, showing them how math is relevant to their lives. And here's a fascinating little tidbit Studies are now showing that early exposure to spatial reasoning, like basic geometry, shapes, those kinds of things, can actually predict later success in STEM fields, even better than early math skills alone.
Speaker 1:Wait, really. So even just playing with blocks and puzzles, that kind of thing could be giving them a head start in science and tech.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. It's all about developing that spatial awareness, that ability to visualize and manipulate objects in their mind.
Speaker 1:So we've got reading, writing, math and secret agent spatial reasoning skills all covered. What else is on this list of you know, kid power skill?
Speaker 2:Okay, so next up is something I think we all want for our kids right, Critical thinking and problem solving.
Speaker 1:For sure, because it's like we can't exactly hand them an instruction manual for every single situation life throws at them.
Speaker 2:Exactly. Life doesn't come with an answer key, so it's about teaching them to really analyze information, figure out those patterns, weigh different options and ultimately make thoughtful choices. And that's true whether they're navigating a disagreement on the playground or facing a challenging decision in a future boardroom.
Speaker 1:It's those essential life skills right.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. It's about equipping them to think for themselves.
Speaker 1:Okay, so we're raising these awesome little thinkers, which is amazing, but we also want them to be kind, well-rounded people. Where do science and social studies fit into all of this?
Speaker 2:Such a good question. So science, especially at this age, is really about sparking that natural curiosity they have. It's less about memorizing a zillion facts and more about asking questions, exploring, experimenting. Oh, I love that Right Like imagine your kid instead of just, you know, watching a bug crawl by. They're like wait, why is that bug so attracted to that light? And then they design a little experiment with a flashlight and a shoebox to test it out.
Speaker 1:That's awesome.
Speaker 2:Right, that's the magic we're talking about.
Speaker 1:Okay, so what about social studies? What's its superpower? Magic we're talking about Danielle Pletka. Okay, so what about social studies? What's its superpower? Adam Chapnick.
Speaker 2:It's all about giving them that framework, that context for understanding their place in the world. We're talking basic geography, historical timelines, even just the basics of civics, like how their community functions and what it means to be a responsible citizen.
Speaker 1:Danielle Pletka. So basically equipping them to be engaged, informed citizens, maybe even future leaders, right?
Speaker 2:Exactly. It's about empowering them to make a difference.
Speaker 1:I love it. Ok, but here's the thing. All of this learning is great, obviously, but how they learn is just as important, maybe even more important, which brings us to that often overlooked skill study skills.
Speaker 2:Yes, it's like that, saying right. Give a kid a fish feed them for a day. Teach a kid to fish feed them for a lifetime.
Speaker 1:I'm all about that lifetime supply.
Speaker 2:Right, and that's what study skills are all about those tools that really empower them to learn independently.
Speaker 1:It's like giving them that sense of like I did it myself, that feeling of accomplishment.
Speaker 2:Exactly Things like time management, self-motivation, even just knowing how to sit, still listen and follow directions. These are foundational.
Speaker 1:OK, so we've covered the what, all those key skills, but there's this whole other piece of the puzzle that I find so interesting, and it's what you were talking about earlier, that grit factor.
Speaker 2:Ah yes, angela Duckworth's work on grit. It's truly groundbreaking stuff. Honestly, her TED talk on this should be required listening for, like everyone, but especially parents.
Speaker 1:Okay. So for those of us who haven't had a chance to catch the TED talk yet, can you give us the Cliff Notes version? What exactly is grit and why is it so important, especially for kids?
Speaker 2:So grit, in a nutshell, is that potent combination of passion and perseverance. Duckworth's research shows it's often a better predictor of success than just raw talent alone. And think about it we all know that kid right, the one who's like naturally brilliant, aced every test without even trying.
Speaker 1:Oh, I've met those kids.
Speaker 2:Right. But then they get to high school or college or the real world and suddenly it's not so easy anymore and because they've never had to really work for it, they don't have that grit, that stick-with-it-ness to push through the tough stuff.
Speaker 1:So they kind of fizzle out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they never quite reach their full potential. Now, on the flip side, imagine a kid who maybe isn't a natural at everything, but they are intensely curious about, say, dinosaurs, like they devour every book on dinosaurs. They build these elaborate dinosaur models. They can tell you every single dinosaur fact.
Speaker 1:They become like little paleontologists.
Speaker 2:Exactly that's passion fueling perseverance, that's grit in action.
Speaker 1:So it's not just about being like naturally gifted, it's about that drive, that fire in their belly, to keep going, keep learning, keep trying, even when things get hard right.
Speaker 2:You nailed it and the really cool thing is it's not like this magical quality you either have or you don't. We can actually cultivate grit in our kids.
Speaker 1:Okay. So how do we do that? How do we sprinkle that magic grit dust?
Speaker 2:Well, one of the most impactful ways is by fostering something called a growth mindset.
Speaker 1:Okay, growth mindset. Break that down for us. What exactly is that?
Speaker 2:So a growth mindset is basically the belief that intelligence and abilities aren't fixed. You know, it's not like you're born with a certain amount of smarts and that's it. Instead, these qualities can be developed through dedication and hard work.
Speaker 1:So it's not like you're so smart, it's you're such a hard worker.
Speaker 2:It's about praising their effort over innate ability. That's huge Because it teaches them that they have the power to improve, to learn, to grow, simply by putting in the effort. And, just as importantly, it's about how we frame setbacks. So, instead of I'm bad at math, we want them to think, okay, I'm not there yet. But Instead of I'm bad at math, we want them to think, OK, I'm not there yet, but I can get better with practice. I just need to figure out the right strategy that yet is so powerful Right.
Speaker 1:Such a small word, but it completely changes the whole conversation, totally OK. So we've covered the what, these key skills, the importance of grit and this idea of a growth mindset. Now for the how, because, let's be real, this is where things get tricky. Now for the how, because, let's be real, this is where things get tricky, but luckily, our sources offer some really practical strategies for parents to actually put all of this into practice at home.
Speaker 2:I have a feeling we might all learn a thing or two ourselves.
Speaker 1:Oh, for sure, I'm already taking notes over here.
Speaker 2:Let's start with something that seems so simple, but it can be surprisingly tough creating a study routine, ah, yes, the holy grail of parenting, because, let's be honest, sometimes homework time at my house feels less like a productive learning session and more like a I don't know.
Speaker 1:A three ring circuit.
Speaker 2:Exactly Complete with aminals and a trapeze artist.
Speaker 1:And probably some popcorn being thrown around for good measure.
Speaker 2:Oh, absolutely, and think about it. If we as adults struggle to focus when there's chaos swirling around us, imagine how much harder it is for kids, whose brains are literally still developing those executive functioning skills, those impulse control muscles.
Speaker 1:It's like expecting them to do calculus when they haven't even learned their times tables yet Exactly.
Speaker 2:So even just small things like setting consistent times for focused work, maybe right after school or after dinner, whatever works for your family's schedule or having a designated study space, like a desk in their room or a quiet corner of the kitchen table even that can make a world of difference.
Speaker 1:It's like creating that mental association. Yeah Right, this is where learning happens. No distractions allowed. My own little productivity zone Exactly. Okay. So speaking of distractions, that's a big one, right? Our sources talk a lot about the importance of minimizing those digital interruptions, and this is a tough one for me.
Speaker 2:Oh, I hear you. It's a constant battle between homework and screens at my house.
Speaker 1:Okay, so any tips, because it feels like a losing battle sometimes.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, this is where those time management skills come in, and not just for the kids, for us parents too. It's about setting those boundaries. Maybe it's having designated tech-free zones in the house, like the dinner table or bedrooms, after a certain hour, or maybe it's setting a timer for screen time and sticking to it no matter what and this is key Modeling that behavior ourselves, oh man.
Speaker 1:You're saying we have to practice what we preach.
Speaker 2:I know it's painful, but we can't exactly tell them to put down their phones while we're scrolling through social media, right?
Speaker 1:next to them, touche. It's the whole. Do as I say, not as I do. Parenting dilemma.
Speaker 2:Exactly, but leading by example as much as possible. It really does make a difference.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'm adding model healthy tech habits to my to-do list. What else you got?
Speaker 2:Goal setting is another big one.
Speaker 1:Okay, but not just vague goals like do well in school, right, Because that feels kind of overwhelming and abstract.
Speaker 2:You got it. It's got to be specific, measurable, something they can actually, you know track their progress and feel good about achieving.
Speaker 1:Okay, I like it. So like, instead of just saying hey, you should work on your writing, we should.
Speaker 2:Exactly Think smart goals. You know specific, measurable, achievable, relevant and time bound. So instead of just saying get better at writing, it's like okay, tonight let's try writing one paragraph about this topic and let's really focus on using descriptive words to paint a picture in the reader's mind.
Speaker 1:Oh, I love that. It's like giving them those little stepping stones, those mini goals, to reach that bigger goal.
Speaker 2:Exactly. It breaks it down into bite-sized pieces that feel way less overwhelming.
Speaker 1:It's kind of sneaking in that yet mindset too right Like I'm not a great writer yet. Right but I'm working on it.
Speaker 2:Exactly, you got it.
Speaker 1:Okay, so we've got those SMART goals. We're breaking things down. What about when they're tackling those bigger, more challenging projects, like a research paper or, you know, building a volcano for the science fair?
Speaker 2:Well, our sources are really big on something called active learning strategies.
Speaker 1:Active learning Okay, I've heard that term thrown around, but honestly I'm not sure I totally get it. What does that actually look like in action?
Speaker 2:So it's basically about moving beyond that kind of passive way of learning where you're just, you know, reading a textbook or listening to a lecture and hoping some of it sticks. It's about getting them to really engage with the material to get those brain juices flowing.
Speaker 1:OK, so how do we do that? Give us the insider tips.
Speaker 2:Well, one really effective strategy is having them summarize information in their own words. Maybe they have to teach the concept to a younger sibling, or even to like their stuffed animal collection. Everyone needs an audience, right?
Speaker 1:I love that. I used to teach fractions to my dog. He's a very attentive student.
Speaker 2:Right and visual aids are huge, like mind maps, timelines. Even just encouraging them to doodle in the margins of their notes while they're listening to something can make a big difference in how much they retain.
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm a huge fan of mind maps. It's like creating this visual map of the information. It just makes those connections so much clearer.
Speaker 2:Exactly. It helps them organize their thoughts and see those relationships between different concepts.
Speaker 1:Okay, so active learning check what else you got.
Speaker 2:Well, this one might seem obvious, but it's amazing how often we forget to do it, even as adults, and that's simply celebrating those successes, no matter how small.
Speaker 1:Oh, I am all about the celebrations. Bring on the confetti and the dance parties.
Speaker 2:Right, because it's those little wins, those moments of yes, I did it, I figured it out that really fuel their motivation to keep going, especially when things get tough Totally.
Speaker 1:Because, let's be real, learning isn't always you know rainbows and unicorns. Sometimes it's just plain hard work. So knowing that their efforts are being recognized, that they're on the right track, that's huge for building that confidence and resilience.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. It's about creating that positive feedback loop where effort leads to progress, which leads to a sense of accomplishment, which then fuels more effort, and so on.
Speaker 1:It's like a snowball effect of awesome. Okay. So we've talked about the importance of study skills, setting those SMART goals, embracing active learning, celebrating those wins Anything else we should add to our parent toolkit.
Speaker 2:You know, I think the most important tool we have as parents and it's not something you can buy on Amazon is simply our unwavering belief in our kids' potential.
Speaker 1:I love that because it's so easy to get, you know, caught up in wanting our kids to excel in all these specific areas, to check off all the boxes Right up, in wanting our kids to excel in all these specific areas, to check off all the boxes right. But at the end of the day, this isn't about molding them into mini versions of ourselves or like pushing them towards some finish line that we've decided on for them.
Speaker 2:It's about giving them the tools and the support to discover their own unique path, to figure out what they're passionate about, what makes them tick.
Speaker 1:And, you know, it makes me think back to something Angela Duckworth said in her TED Talk, something about how the key to grit to that passion and perseverance. It's not about forcing kids to work harder at things they hate. It's about helping them find those things that truly light them up.
Speaker 2:Oh, absolutely. That's the secret sauce, right? That intrinsic motivation when they're genuinely interested in something, learning transforms from a chore into an adventure.
Speaker 1:Think back to your kid who's obsessed with dinosaurs, right? You don't have to force them to memorize dinosaur facts. They're already doing it for fun.
Speaker 2:Exactly. They're driven by that pure joy of discovery, that thirst for knowledge, and that's what we want to nurture.
Speaker 1:So, as we wrap up this deep dive, I just want to leave our listeners with this thought what is it that makes your child's eyes light up? What are they naturally drawn to, even if it seems kind of quirky or offbeat? Because those passions, those sparks of interest, those are the seeds of something truly special, and our job as parents is to nurture those seeds, to create an environment where they can blossom.
Speaker 2:Beautifully said. And remember, it doesn't have to be something big and fancy. It could be as simple as you know setting up an art easel in the corner of the living room, or getting them a bug catching kit, or taking them to the library and letting them pick out a giant stack of books on whatever topic they're currently obsessed with.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's about giving them the freedom and the space to explore, to experiment, to discover who they are and what they love, and sometimes it means letting go of our own expectations and just letting them lead the way.
Speaker 2:And trusting that they'll find their own path to success, even if it looks a little different than what we imagined.
Speaker 1:You got it, so as always. Thanks for joining us for this deep dive.
Speaker 2:It's been a pleasure.
Speaker 1:And remember, parents, you've got this. Until next time, keep exploring, keep learning and keep those deep dives going.