Tesla Road Trip Adventure: Navigating 2,000 Miles and EV Charging Realities

Curious about the ins and outs of a 2,000-mile road trip in a Tesla Model Y? Join us as Buzz Smith, fondly known as Mr. EV, shares his electrifying adventure from Fort Worth to Rocky Mountain National Park. Learn firsthand how he navigated the challenges of long-distance EV travel, from leveraging apps like a Better Route Planner and Plug Share to managing charging stops without breaking a sweat. Buzz sheds light on the contrasts between Tesla's robust charging infrastructure and the lagging networks of other automakers, making this episode a must-listen for anyone considering an electric vehicle for their next road trip.

But that's not all! This episode also takes you through the broader EV landscape, from the buzz surrounding the Volkswagen ID Buzz to the trials of finding reliable charging stations, exemplified by a frustrating stop in Pasadena. We touch on Texas's ambitious plans to bolster its EV charging infrastructure and ponder the cultural nuances of EV adoption in places like Colorado. Plus, catch up on the latest industry news, including Fisker's bankruptcy and the growing demand for seamless smartphone integration in vehicles. With a sprinkle of light-hearted moments and technical hiccups, this episode promises to inform and entertain car enthusiasts of all stripes.

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Transcript

Speaker 1 0:01

Welcome to another In Wheel Time podcast, a 30-minute mini version of the In Wheel Time Car Show that airs live every Saturday morning 8 to 11 am Central. We had a little faux pas there. A little faux pas, but at any rate, hey, we need to put a wire on it. You got us the In Wheel Time Car Talk Show today, coming to you from the Sugar Shack Studios just outside Houston Texas, coming up. We talk to evangelist I don't know what, richard Tomlin, oh, is it Richard? Richard, oh, my God, I've messed this all up?

Speaker 2 0:41

haven't I? No, no, no, I. I've messed this all up, haven't I? No, no, no, I messed it up, my bad, you know what? I didn't mess anything up, so here we go. We've been hacked With niacin.

Speaker 1 0:52

No, niacin, my bad Mars. That's what I've got here. I know You're right.

Speaker 2 0:59

He got Richard out of bed.

Speaker 1 1:00

I'm only going to admit that one time. So Mars screwed it up, and then I've had some sort of faux pas over here. Glitchy, glitch. Anyway, it doesn't make any difference. Welcome to the In Wheel Time.

Speaker 2 1:11

Car Talk Show. Yeah, come on now.

Speaker 1 1:13

We've got lots of stuff coming up this half hour, including the Cruxin calendar, and we also have today's stories making automotive news headlines Along with Mike out of this World, mars. We have Mr Jeff. We always need more. Jeff Zekin, I'm.

Speaker 2 1:29

Don Armstrong.

Speaker 1 1:30

Yeah, we just need help today. That's all I can tell you. So I don't know. Oh, who is that that? I see there, ladies and gentlemen, mr EV himself. It is Buzz Smith there he is. Good morning, are you there? How are you guys doing today? Well, apparently, you know, once we saw your face, things kind of took a different turn here on the show and we had some unexpected interruptionsions, kind of like the dealerships across america with cdk and their dealer management system. Good to see you. How are you, my friend? Oh, life is good, is it? Oh, yes, well, I, apparently it's so good that you uh took a little road trip outside the state of texas what?

Speaker 3 2:21

yes, it was. Uh, almost 2 000 miles round trip. We drove from fort worth to rocky mountain national park in colorado all electric, 100 electric vehicle. We camped in the vehicle, running the heat all night long, because it was getting down to the low 30s at night. We were at 8 500 feet where we were camping. Uh, it was a wonderful vacation.

Speaker 1 2:44

Wow, okay, well, I'm sorry that I missed you. I was there a couple of weeks ago myself.

Speaker 3 2:51

Really I was. It was actually about two weeks ago that I was there. You are kidding me.

Speaker 1 2:58

You know no, I'm not kidding you, but I could smell you off in the distance and I thought hmm, is that Buzz over there.

Speaker 3 3:08

What kind of EV did you drive?

Speaker 1 3:11

I wasn't driving the EV, sir, you were United Airline.

Speaker 2 3:14

EV.

Speaker 1 3:14

No, I had a wonderful, comfortable hybrid by Lexus and it worked great. So, for what it's worth, were you driving your car or did you have some manufacturer car?

Speaker 3 3:29

now this is actually my uh model y that I bought back in december and we've been. You know, the first weekend we had it, I think we went on a 150 mile trip, just to, you know, kind of get our road legs under us. Then I've been on two, two EV road trips for Texetra, one of them, east Texas, where I went from Fort Worth to Beaumont up to the northeast corner, texarkana, and back again, and then our most recent road trip, we went from Austin, san Antonio, corpus, brownsville, mcallen, laredo, kerrville, san Antonio and then back to Fort Worth again. After I went on those road trips I was ready to really stretch my legs and go to Colorado and see what that was like. It was really cool. I mean, this was an all-electric trip.

Speaker 3 4:19

So I've been going to Rocky Mountain National Park since I was about eight years old and my parents, you know I grew up in Houston so we'd always go, go up 287 through the panhandle, that little corner of New Mexico, and then up straight to Denver and then into the mountains.

Speaker 3 4:35

And you couldn't do that with most EVs right now because the infrastructure is not there like it is for Tesla, and so for a normal non-Tesla EV you've had to drive north to Kansas and then take a left into Colorado. A little bit longer drive, but you could still do it and I was really excited about being able to do the drive that I was used to doing and it was absolutely no problem. I use two apps when I'm traveling a better route planner and plug share, and a better route planner is just unbelievable. I was arriving at these charging stations plus or minus 10 minutes of my schedule plan. The charging took no longer than what the app had predicted, so it actually turned out to be. You know, it was no impact on the driving time at all because I've got this motto feed yourself when you feed your car. So when I stop to recharge I'll usually eat somewhere right there near the charger, so that I'm kind of multitasking. I'm not taking away from my drive time, since I would stop to eat anyway.

Speaker 2 5:40

What kind of vehicle were you in? The Model Y? Oh, Model Y. I'm sorry I missed that.

Speaker 3 5:46

And that's the dual motor long range version Gotcha. So it's supposed to be 320 miles of range. That's the stated range. What was the real range? Real range looks like it was averaging about 280 miles, but that was because I was driving 75 miles an hour. So you know once, you, uh, you know once you.

Speaker 3 6:05

Well, that's impressive, though, because I thought it would be much less no, um, when we did that, uh, you might remember, we took a chevy bolt ev to enchanted rock. Yep, what was more important than anything was wind drag. So, you're right, that is a big deal. And we had a kayak on the roof and two mountain bikes hanging off the back of the car. Wow, we lost about 25 to 30 30 percent of range based on wind drag, and so this time we decided to do it a little bit differently. We wanted everything to be inside the car, so obviously no kayak this time, but we bought two folding e-bikes that folded up, really small and, believe it or not, could be recharged from the tesla.

Speaker 1 6:48

Oh god only you would come up with something like that well, okay, uh, guilty as charged.

Speaker 3 6:55

But we took these e-bikes, we rode them around in the national park and were able to recharge them from the tesla, so that was really cool. Did the national park have chargers, I was going to ask. Absolutely not. No. Rivian has a deal with Colorado State Parks to put what they call adventure chargers in, and that network is already being constructed and is out there, but in the National Parks there's just no facility for charging at all. Fortunately, estes Park has some really good infrastructure for charging, both CCS, chatham-o and Tesla. The Tesla chargers were very poorly located. You know, hey, charger companies, you really need to put these next to coffee shops and restaurants so that people can have something to do In Estes. They put us right behind the Stanley Hotel, which is the hotel that inspired Stephen King to write the Stanley. Oh, yeah, been there. Yeah, you're already in this semi-creepy, you know, parking lot behind the hotel, away from any eyewitnesses. So if the hedges come in, done. But yeah, we had a wonderful time.

Speaker 3 7:58

A couple other things. We bought a self-inflating mattress that's part memory foam, part air mattress that is specifically designed for the Model Y. It's four and a half inches thick, absolutely comfortable to sleep in the car at night with the heat going or the air conditioner going. We did all the driving from Fort Worth to Rocky Mountain National Park by full self-driving in the Tesla. You can rent it now for $99 a month, so we turned it on for that month and we went across the Continental Divide Trail.

Speaker 3 8:32

Ridge Road is the highest paved road in the United States going across the Continental Divide, and they had not opened it when we arrived. The snowfall is so heavy there in the winter they've got to wait for the snow plows to get it all gone. But two days before the trip was over that was done. So we actually drove under autopilot from Glacier Basin Campground, which is about 8,500 feet, up to the peak of the road, which is almost 13,000 feet, and then down to Grand Lake on the other side, again right around 8,500 feet above sea level, and the car did all the driving. And these are hairpin turns where if you go off the road you are over.

Speaker 3 9:12

Yeah it's scary, and this thing would maintain the speed limit, maintain safe turning speeds and did all the driving for me and it actually did a better drive than I do driving Trail Ridge because especially on the downhill parts I tend to get above the speed limit. This thing would keep me at speed limit and, believe it or not, one day we went as high as we could on Trail Ridge and back down and we used negative 11 miles of range because all of that downhill regen regenerated more energy than we had used going up and I don't even know how that could be possible because that to me sounds physically impossible. But when I got back it said I had 11 more miles of range than I did when I left.

Speaker 1 9:52

Now let me ask you this. Let's go back into this conversation just a little bit. You said something about a mattress. Did you sleep in the car?

Speaker 3 10:01

Yes, yeah, tesla has a thing called camping mode so you can run the stereo all night long, you can charge all your portable devices, you can run the air conditioner or heat all day long or all night long. And so I wondered, being the math guy that I am, what's the impact? Am I going to have to drive into Estes Park every day and recharge this 90 kilowatt hour battery pack? Or, you know, is this going to be negligible? You know what is it? So the second night we did it. We actually measured the range we had remaining when we went to bed and then the next morning when we got up, and all of that heat all night long used up 14 miles of range. That's four kilowatt hours of electricity about 40 cents that you would pay at your house. And I heated that car all night long. Now we're in a sleeping bag, so you know that's helping keeping us warm. I think we set the heat to 60 degrees, but it was freaking awesome.

Electric Vehicle Charging Infrastructure and Adoption

Speaker 1 10:57

Actually what this really is. It's a Nash that you've converted with the sleeping seats in it, pulled down, that's what it really is.

Speaker 3 11:08

Volkswagen would not come out with the ID Buzz in time for me to get the hippie, and that's a cool vehicle.

Speaker 2 11:15

It looks cool.

Speaker 1 11:16

You know I love you in some sort of strange way, but I'll tell you what, dude, this whole thing to me is just. It's perfect for you. It's weird, I don't know how else to put it.

Speaker 2 11:27

It is definitely perfect for me.

Speaker 1 11:29

Who would come up with this idea? Only you. Oh, I'm going to take the.

Speaker 3 11:34

There's a mattress company that makes the mattresses. Tesla made camping mode. I mean there's a lot of people really interested in this. In fact, I have a photo open on my desktop here. I thought that you know, am I gonna see anybody else camping in an electric vehicle?

Speaker 1 11:49

wait, a minute is that wait. Over there, but about 10 vehicles done. Is it Don Armstrong? No, it's not. It was one vehicle away.

Speaker 3 11:59

It was right across the country and it was a Kia Niro EV, so it wasn't even one of the super recent models. And on the drive up Trail Ridge I saw Cybertrucks, I saw Mustang Mach-Es. I mean, these things were all over the place up there because they've got good charging.

Speaker 1 12:18

Of course, you also have to keep in mind dude, this is Colorado. There's a pot shop on every corner. It's like a gas station.

Speaker 2 12:25

They took them over. Does the bear charge it?

Speaker 3 12:26

That is no lie. We were at a Tesla charging bank and I saw this family get out of an SUV and this was right near a gas station as well and these two men went walking off in the distance. I didn't think anything of it and they came back and they had these little baggies.

Speaker 2 12:44

And they're showing them to their family.

Speaker 3 12:48

And the family's all jumping up and down, and I sat there and I thought I'll bet. Right behind me there's a what do they call it? A dispensary.

Speaker 2 12:57

Sure enough, I looked over my shoulder and there was a dispensary. So does a bear charge his EV in the woods? Yes, he has to actually.

Speaker 1 13:04

Well, you know the old song one toke over the line sweet. Jesus apparently rings with you. Yeah, I can only imagine. Sounds like fun.

Speaker 3 13:13

Yeah, it does. It actually was. It was a wonderful trip. I haven't been up there this early in the year in many, many decades, actually now. But you know, whenever they first plow that road, there's this wall of snow next to you, probably 14, 15 feet high. It was cool to see that again.

Speaker 1 13:52

Well, I have to give you just a brief a fast charger, one that worked, one that the car told me I could actually use, that worked. I wound up having to go from my work in through the city of Pasadena to find a fast charger behind a Chase Bank over there by the drive-in, which is removed, as you can imagine, from the actual building itself. Found it and just to get it took me three days and three and a half hours of my time. That I'll never get back to find a damn charger. Now this is in the city. What car were you in?

Speaker 3 14:43

It was a Kia, oh, so it had a CHAdeMO connector.

Speaker 1 14:47

It was an EV9, brand new, oh no, it was an absolutely stunningly beautiful vehicle. I loved every bit of it, but the infrastructure. An absolutely stunningly beautiful vehicle, I loved every bit of it, but the infrastructure. It took me to apartment buildings that had a level one charger that it didn't tell me. A level one charger behind the gate, what, what is that? I don't understand. It just is not user friendly at all. Now, yes, you, and actually you are a deep diver into this and I I get all of that and I appreciate your appreciation for evs and and you're beating the band and all of that good stuff. I get that, but in real life, really, I'm a journalist.

Speaker 3 15:28

That's not good oh you're, you're exactly right, and, and what's happened is tes. Tesla has paid the dues for the entire industry. They went out and built a charging network, and somebody had to pay for that, right. So everybody that bought a Tesla car it's in the price of that car. Well, gm, ford, all the other guys they didn't want that additional cost in their cars, so they've all really held off on developing their charging networks, which originally I thought hey, the gas stations were independent of the dealers and the manufacturers. Why don't we just let this market happen? But Tesla did show us the right way. They came up with a very simple design. They can install one in four hours once the infrastructure is in place. They're now selling those to third-party charger installation companies, to other people that can start their own networks, but you're absolutely right. Now what is really great, though, is Texas got $409 million of the NEVI funds.

Speaker 1 16:32

And they're not doing a damn thing with it.

Speaker 3 16:34

Actually they are. The first stage is under construction right now. They are popping up. You'll see them probably south and southeast of, say, san Antonio in the beginning, along the coastline evacuation routes. There will be 50% more chargers they're going to have for the others, 50% more chargers they're going to have for the others. Those chargers will all charge all Teslas and all American-made EVs and many foreign-made EVs, except for the Asians that use Chatham-O. So phase one is just going to be border-border, you know, along the major interstates every 50 miles.

Speaker 3 17:10

The next step, though, is every single county in the state of Texas is going to get a bank of DC fast chargers. By default, it would be located at the county seat, but if the local government or group that is monitoring things decides they want to put it somewhere else, and I'd recommend that they put it right in the middle of their downtown shopping district to get people to visit the town, spend money in the town. But that stage is about to come Now. If that stage had already happened, that's going to take three to four more years to finish it out, but if that stage has already happened, I could reduce the number of stops for charging by at least one charging stop, maybe two, and then I would have been able to only stop to charge at hotels at night level two or when I was on the road, when I was having a meal, and so then there would be no impact on my driving time at all, it would be just right like driving a gas car.

Speaker 1 18:05

But uh, yeah, the charging well, I find that hard to believe, but I'll just take your word for it. I want, I want to move on now into something else before we live, because we're we're kind're running short of time, and that is why are all of these EVs sitting on dealer lots not being sold.

Speaker 3 18:21

Primarily interest rates. Adoption rate is still very high and very aggressive, especially, believe it or not, with the Kias and Hyundais. They are showing 80% year-over-year sales increase and they don't qualify for the federal income tax credit. That's another interesting thing. The Kia and Hyundai dealers, and probably the manufacturers behind this, are just giving it as a discount.

Speaker 1 18:45

Why are they not selling Ford Electrics, the Ford Lightning? They're sitting on lots.

Speaker 3 18:55

Well, I think a couple of things. One is that most people think they've got to tow really heavy stuff all the time if they buy a pickup, although my experience was most of my customers never towed anything. No, they bought pickup trucks from me, but the impact of towing on the F-150 has shied away some of the traditional type truck drivers. By the way, I saw a uh, an f-150 lightning in estes park trying to charge at the tesla chargers and those weren't opened up to ford yet and, uh, I was able to show him local charging that he could get to.

Speaker 1 19:29

that was specifically for his okay now, not to, not to, not to poo-poo your ev thing. But I think if somebody were to ask me what would be a good thing to have right now, I would say go for the hybrid, because it's the best of both worlds. You get the ev experience, and when you run out of juice then and you can't find a charger, at least you got the gasoline motor for now and for newbies.

Speaker 3 19:53

You're exactly right. I mean, I I've, as you know, I've driven plug-in hybrids for over 10 years the uh, I think of them as training wheels for full electric vehicles. And if you've never had an electric vehicle before and you do a lot of road trips so that you need that range, then absolutely go get a plug-in hybrid. But get a plug-in hybrid because it will stay electric until you run out of electricity. And the importance of that is, instead of struggling, like with the old traditional hybrids, to get 45 or 50 miles per gallon when you're running on electricity, you're running an equivalent of about 100 miles per gallon. So stay with a car, a plug-in hybrid that will let you stay electric until it runs out of electricity and then switches to gas, instead of a traditional hybrid that, if you get above 35 miles an hour, it's going to switch to gas.

Electric Vehicle Industry Challenges and Updates

Speaker 1 20:42

Buzz, we love you. Got to run out of time here, so you take care of yourself. Let's stay in touch and have a good summer. All right, have a good one, guys. You too, buzz Smith, mr Electric himself.

Speaker 3 20:53

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Speaker 1 20:53

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Speaker 1 21:12

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Speaker 1 22:07

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Speaker 2 23:11

Okay, well, today's Saturday, June 22nd, You've got going on. Right now you've got the Kingwood Classic Cruisers Cars and Coffee up there at the Whataburger in Kingwood and then later on you've got June Cars and Coffee at Freddy's Cafe. That's going on a little later. That's at 16804 Barker Springs in Houston, Not quite starting. Later. That's at 16804 Barker Springs in Houston, Not quite starting yet. There's one at 11 o'clock this morning Goes till 4 pm. That's H-Town Toys 6th Annual Car Show. That's in Cypress Station Drive, 1910, to be specific, it's in Houston. You've got tonight 6 pm to 9 pm. You've got the weekly cruise in in Montgomery, Texas. That's in Montgomery. Tomorrow, big day tomorrow Sunday, Sunday Sunday 9 am to 11. You've got garages and gearheads in Katy at 1435 FM 1463. There's a lot of fours in that, Garages of Texas in Katy. And then 5 pm to 7 pm Sundays at Freddy's and then 3 o'clock you've got weekly car meetup in Willis, which is just north of town here. What are you talking about, Willis? What you talking about so there?

Speaker 1 24:17

we go. Electric vehicle startup Fisker filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection on June 17th after months of quality issues with its Ocean crossover, a failed attempt to partner with a major automaker and hundreds of millions of dollars in losses. To partner with a major automaker and hundreds of millions of dollars in losses. Like other companies in the electric vehicle industry, we have faced various market and macroeconomic headwinds. What is that Don't know? That have impacted our ability to operate efficiently, fisker said in a statement no, fisker, didn't Some PR person? Yeah, macroeconomic. After evaluating all options for our business, we determined that proceeding with a sale of our assets under Chapter 11 is the most viable path forward for the company. Goodbye, goodbye. Roughly a third of consumers refuse to buy a car that lacks smartphone integration. No, surprise there, that's.

Speaker 1 25:09

According to a new McKinsey Company consumer survey, 30% of global electric vehicle buyers and 35% of global internal combustion engine car buyers said a lack of support for smartphone integration is a deal breaker. That figure may have big implications for General Motors, which said in December it is phasing out such integrations in future EVs because they want to know what you're doing in your car through their system. Us consumers are similarly rigid 25% of EV buyers and 38% of gasoline-powered vehicle buyers would not purchase cars without smartphone mirroring. Apple CarPlay and Android Auto mirror the mobile phone interface on infotainment screens, and the services are popular. Both saw installation rates above 90% in a mid-year survey of the 2023 model year vehicles by Wards Intelligence. You'll be sorry. Remember that, yeah, from the cartoons back in the day. Don't do away with Apple CarPlay. Don't do away with the Android application either. That is a death knell. If you want to sell cars, that's something that you don't want to do. What are you guys doing over?

Speaker 2 26:26

there. Well, I'm trying to load a commercial because it's almost top of the hour, he's trying to fix the Internet at the same time, so we kind of have a little pushback.

Speaker 1 26:35

Yeah, all fighting over the same computer like a little 12-year-old girl, it's fine.

Speaker 2 26:41

My computer says it's right.

Speaker 1 26:45

Listen, we know about you and your computer. You've been looking up dirty things on there.

Speaker 2 26:51

No, not in his computer.

Speaker 1 26:53

You've done something weird over there.

Speaker 1 26:54

Dirtiness it's got it all messed up. Okay, well, we're going to leave this hour with this story. Los Angeles Lakers player is suing a custom car business over a deal involving a $1 million Ferrari he wanted to buy oh boy, and a 1967 Ford Mustang Shelby. He was trying to sell Spencer Dinwiddie. Why, spencer Dinwiddie? Why would you do that? Who signed a $1.55 million contract with the Lakers in February, filed a suit this month against Wires Only and its former general manager, chadwick Hopkins. Wires Only and Hopkins were featured in a 2022 reality show called Million Dollar Wheels.

Speaker 1 27:38

Dinwiddie bought his Mustang from Wires Only in November of 22 for $699,000, according to the LA Times. He later agreed to pay $1.05 million for a 2022 Ferrari SF90 Spyder that Hopkins helped him pick out and put down a $350,000 deposit on the car. Lawsuit claims the Ferrari purchase was contingent upon wires only selling Dinwiddie's Mustang within 45 days, but the shop sent the Ferrari to him immediately and wasn't able to sell the Mustang. I'm going to buy another crib in Malibu. I need the $350,000 back and the Mustang sold. Dinwiddie texted Hopkins in April of 23,. The lawsuit said Hopkins has disputed Dinwiddie's characterization of the deal. The $350,000 wasn't a deposit. It was an initial installment payment on the purchase of the SF90 000 wasn't a deposit. It was initial installment payment on the purchase of the sf90 spider. And the story goes on.

Speaker 2 28:37

He said he got a. What was his contract? 1.5 million or 15.5 million so he's blew his whole budget on on a car ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding ding, and he's got to get another crib, so so what's the? Difference between a down payment and the first installment payment?

Speaker 1 28:54

That's a good question. I don't have the answer to that, and why would you?

Speaker 2 28:56

get rid of that hot rod for the whatever We'd love to hear from you.

Speaker 1 29:00

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