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What does it take to master the treacherous ascent of Pikes Peak and finish the climb in under 10 minutes? Join us as we sit down with Richard Tomlin to uncover the nerve-wracking experience of racing up one of the most iconic mountains in motorsport. From Don's own harrowing drive in a Lexus RX450 H+ to Richard’s detailed insights on the preparation and challenges faced by competitors, this episode captures the sheer audacity and skill required to conquer Pikes Peak. Discover the complexities of transitioning from dirt to asphalt roads and the critical use of oxygen for drivers battling high altitudes and sharp switchbacks.

But that's not all—gear up for an inside look at race day preparations for the Pikes Peak International Hill Climb. We discuss the extraordinary mental and physical demands placed on drivers and the meticulous strategies needed to navigate a course that leaves no room for error. Richard shares the essential role of team preparation for safety and the logistics of handling potential mechanical failures. To cap off this adrenaline-filled episode, we reveal five affordable vehicles under $15,000 that are poised to become future collectibles, perfect for budding car enthusiasts looking to start a collection without breaking the bank. Whether you’re a motorsport fanatic or new to the world of car collecting, this episode promises an engaging and informative ride.

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Speaker 1

Welcome to another In Wheel Time podcast, a 30-minute mini version of the In Wheel Time Car Show that airs live every Saturday morning 8 to 11 am Central. You know, it's amazing that we even get this show on the air. Welcome to the In Wheel Time Car Talk Show Just ahead, pike's Peak Hill, climb Head Cheese, richard Tomlin.

Speaker 2

Also.

Speaker 1

Jeff has this week's racing calendar and Mr Mars offers five cars under $15,000. And wait till you see this lineup, howdy, along with Mike out of this world, mars, we need more Jeff Zekin and IT Director of Engineering, david Ainsley. I'm, don Armstrong, glad that you could join us today. Let's switch over now and see if we can talk to Richard Tomlin. Hello and come in, richard Tomlin. Good morning gentlemen. Oh my God, he's there and we got him. I can hear him, I can see him and it's truly amazing.

Speaker 4

First time for everything right. Where are you, colorado Springs? Where, oh boy, colorado Springs?

Speaker 1

Colorado Springs, just outside of Pikes Peak. Yeah, yep, yep, I was there a couple of weeks ago and I want you to know.

Speaker 4

I guess we're over in Estes Park too, so lots of people up here right now.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I'm sure. Well, we saw them up Pike's Peak two weeks ago. What'd you think? Scared to death, did you take the Corvette? No, I did not take the Corvette. I had a Lexus RX450 H+ lovely vehicle, but the problem wasn't with the vehicle or the weather or anything else other than me. I white-knuckled it up there, and especially on those switchbacks. I don't know how anybody could have their foot to the floor at any point going up Pikes Peak. I just don't get it, and will I ever go back again? No, you'll have to cart me up there in a hearse to get me back up there.

Speaker 4

So you saw the starting gate where we actually start the race.

Speaker 1

Yes, and they were preparing everything while I was up there.

Speaker 4

The record from start to finish is 7 minutes and 57 seconds.

Speaker 1

Here. Let me answer that with you. Oh hell no.

Speaker 4

It's something that even us, as racers, it's hard to believe, because it's so fast, it's so quick.

Speaker 1

Yeah, well, I mean, I think that some mental health care should be available down at the bottom of the mountain, because those people are crazy.

Speaker 4

Yeah, so we're aiming for a sub-10 minute in our car this year. Wow, we ran a 10.26 last year.

Speaker 5

Sub-10 minute last year.

Speaker 4

We're on target to break 10 minutes to cover the 12.43 miles 156 turns to the top of Pike's Peak at 14,110 feet.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I'm very well aware of all of that. The switchbacks, the three switchbacks that as you reach the peak of the mountain itself. That is frightening, to say the least. If you want to die of a heart attack, well, there's your answer right there.

Speaker 4

Yeah, so during practices we actually tow the cars up. So you've got the Ram truck 2500, towing a 30-foot enclosed trailer and there's a line of 25, 30 of us going up there. That diesel truck that is tuned for Houston sure does like to smoke a lot up here, I'll bet, kind of gives you a bad feeling. Yeah, it's interesting around those switchbacks and the W's getting up there with the big trucks. It's a very cautious maneuver that's made.

Speaker 1

Well, I saw something interesting on the way up there myself. I saw a school bus that had a whole, had a whole bevy of people inside of it, just regular people hanging on for dear life as this, as this driver was running up those like like he did every day, which in the gears, yeah, and he did it every day, clearly.

Speaker 1

Uh, and I, I, I didn't pull, I thank god he didn't get behind me. But there was a law enforcement officer that was behind me for quite some time before I could get over to the side to let him go by, right. So here I am, grandpa don, hanging on white, knuckling it all the way. Thank, thank you.

Speaker 4

Yeah, you'll be okay, Well. I am now.

Speaker 1

Now that I'm down here about 50 feet above sea level, I'm feeling a lot more comfortable and I can breathe.

Speaker 4

Yeah, breathing is a real thing. Our driver runs oxygen on the way up and it helps him because heart rate's so high. Once you actually get up in a thinner oxygen, it does become an issue.

Speaker 1

Your heart rate is high, no kidding. I'm about to die, and it's not because of the lack of oxygen up there, it's because of fright. I can tell you that what's?

Speaker 4

interesting is we tell people how high it is and how extreme this event is, but until you actually drive the road, like you did, you don't realize how high and how extreme it is.

Speaker 1

And the fact that it's been going on for 102 years is even more impressive well, you know and here's the other thing you know that path up there from one point to the top was not always paved. It was basically a gravel road, and that in itself is like you could slip off of this.

Speaker 4

Nah, no big deal yeah, it's a big deal. There are men running now that actually ran when it was all dirt and run now when it's all asphalt and they feel that it was safer on dirt because they had more consistency, knowing exactly what the car was not going to do. Um, then when you actually have the grip and the grip goes away and then you're just along for the ride, okay, so this is interesting conversation for these men, to say the least um, you know, it's kind of it, kind of builds, and you really don't expect it.

Speaker 1

Okay, yeah, we're going up this grade and it's no big deal. And then you pass that point where they give you the little sticker for your window and then you're on your way and it's this a little bit steeper here, a little bit steeper there. Pretty soon you're damn nice. Yeah, all you can see is sky and I'm going. This is not good for me at my age. Um and um the other. The other thing is that, um, it is. It is one of those deals. I have to ask you this do they run slicks? Yes, yeah absolutely.

Speaker 4

They run slicks, yeah even run tire warmers in the pits to warm them up first, because you don't get a chance to have a warm-up lap or a you know warm-up area. So you either have uh tire heaters, tire warmers like you would see in f1 or any of the bigger race series, um, or you use a propane heater to heat up the center of the rim, uh, which thereby heats up the carcass of the tire, or you do it old school, and you just set them on a skate and keep them in the sunlight until you have to put them on the car. Why?

Speaker 1

why did you raise your hand to do this? You know, I always had a lot more faith in you that you were a sane person. Yeah, I just uh to. To all right, I won't even go into that, but here.

Speaker 4

So let's, let's. Let's go into the sane part. Um, hop on and pull on yuri. He's not. He's on hold in the group. Yuri is our driver. Uh, that will be wheeling the car up. He's the one that qualified third in the open wheel class and you can ask him about all that, because he's the one that's truly the madman. I just built the machine. He's the one wheeling it up there.

Speaker 1

Yeah have you ever driven it?

Speaker 4

oh yeah, I've driven it plenty of times yeah.

Speaker 1

Is that Yuri, that's with us Wow?

Speaker 4

Yep, you should have Yuri right there, yeah.

Speaker 1

I see him. Yuri, can you hear us? Can you see us? Yes sir, I can see everybody. Can you guys hear me all right? Yep, yeah. So what's it like inside the insane asylum?

Speaker 5

And is that how you're describing the car, or which one's particular? The whole kit and caboodle, yeah, everything.

Speaker 1

Dude. So what is the top speed that you go as you're heading up the mountain?

Pikes Peak Race Day Preparation

Speaker 2

So we are gear limited strategically to about 123, 124. We can bump the red line a little bit to pick up a few more mile an hour. Qualifying is probably the best place where we got a sense for the actual top speed we're going to hit. You know, we're a little bit lower on the mountain where we can use our horsepower and we have a couple of straights. So we tickled, I think, 115 or 116 in qualifying on Wednesday, I believe, or Thursday. So we're close, we're close to our red line. We picked our gearing just right. But yeah, it's also I think it's a good thing With the way that being on a highway, essentially the braking zones are not braking zones, it's just braking on a road basically. So I think it's a good thing that we're capped right there.

Speaker 1

Do you ever look down?

Speaker 2

uh, no, you never looked at. Uh, you're talking about down at the best, or or down at the uh, down to the side of the car down the side of the car when you're teetering on the edge of the roadway that has no guardrail.

Speaker 2

It is it is hard to ignore it just out of your peripherals, and obviously I, you know, I have a, I think, in a good and a bad way, I have a better appreciation for it than you know, some of the drivers that, fortunately, have not experienced what's. You know what's on the other side of the white line, uh, but but no, it's. It's there in your head, uh, it's always a good gut check, but no, you're. You're basically laser focused on the two white lines. It's not tunnel vision, because your peripherals do pick up a lot, but I definitely am always aware of where the drops are. You just try to make the circuit as flat and as streamlined as possible, so your gaze is only where it needs to be and you're basically just picking up your visual markers for either turning or brake.

Speaker 5

Yeah, and there was a song written about that. It's called Jesus Take the Wheel. Is that what?

Speaker 2

it is. That's what it is. Yeah, Hopefully he sets this one out on Sunday and I'll take it to the top.

Speaker 1

Yeah, Well, we certainly wish you the best of luck and say a prayer for, say a little prayer for me as they say?

Speaker 5

Where is it going to be broadcasted? Can we watch it?

Speaker 2

Yes, yes, so it's basically going to be live streamed on Mobile One's YouTube channel. Okay, that's what it is. Yeah, so I don't actually know the link, but for all my friends and family I just tell them hey, go look up Mobile One live stream, type that into YouTube and that should bring you there. And Pikes Peak does a pretty good job as far as organization. They'll kind of fill in some of the quiet time or downtime. They'll have some other drivers come into the booth and talk and they have kind of a you know, somebody takes a point and talks you through some of the points of what's going on while cars are running or while we're having a little bit of downtime.

Speaker 1

Well, as I white-knuckled my way up there at about five miles an hour through the switchbacks, all I could think of was okay, so we've got all these people up there racers, trailers, tow vehicles, everything is up there. And you know, when I was up there a couple of weeks ago, they were setting up the port-a-potties and that sort of stuff. But there are only a couple of areas that I saw. Of course, I was also laser focused, to use your term. Um, a couple of areas up there where I could see, where you guys could kind of pull off and where it looks like they've cleared a little bit of an area, a couple of places on the way up the mountain. Is that where you guys camp out? How does that work?

Speaker 2

yes, so for for each practice section, essentially they they strategically have staging lots. So Glen Cove is a natural place. That's usually for downhill descent for visitors. That's a place where you can pull off and cool your brakes after coming down from the switchbacks. Devil's Playground is also a big staging area. It's not really a paved lot, it's just dirt because of just how rough the conditions are there most of the year, and I like the way that they call it devil's playground.

Speaker 1

That's that. That that doesn't work for me but go ahead.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, so no, they have. They have some good spots, uh, to pull off. Now, if you have a mechanical issue, just depending where you are on track on race day, that's where you get. You have to get a little bit more creative, you know, and some guys, unfortunately, they have downtime or they experience a failure somewhere in the Ws and the switchbacks. You have very little pull-off room there and you're on a very steep incline. You better hope your parking brake works and you can keep it in gear and whatnot.

Speaker 2

Essentially, the race has been running for over 100 years. They figured it out now where everybody needs to stage and wait. It used to be even crazier because when Low ran in 2013, you could actually see it was very much of a rally feel. You had spectators sitting there riding every apex, around every corner, basically a couple feet from the car. Some people got within inches of cars and so the committee decided to kind of push the fans back a little bit. Got within inches of cars, and so they. The committee decided to kind of push the fans back a little bit, so they're they're a little bit more clustered. Um, you know, halfway picking the ground ski area, the cove you know there's places where where the fans are packed in and get a good viewing.

Speaker 1

But do you ever worry about things like a broken axle in the switchbacks? That would be a little bit, uh, nerve-wracking I uh worry about everything honestly.

Speaker 2

But once again, going back to the laser focus comment, I trust in the team to keep me safe. That's probably the only thing I need from them If we lose power or something doesn't quite run right, electrical-wise, I'm not upset. My main thing is I just need brakes and steering. Everything else is on me and, yes, I definitely worry in the switchbacks and the W's. Back to me, that's the most dangerous spot. We have the biggest drop off. So that's that's. It's in the back of my mind, but you have to curb that anxiety and that fear for sure in order to be able to even drive through there at speed.

Speaker 1

So, richard, the U-joints in these things about the, about size of a basketball, or how does that work?

Speaker 4

No, actually they're a regular Ford 8.8-inch U-joint, something you can actually walk into a Riley AutoZone and buy. Oh my God.

Speaker 1

Really, Absolutely. So I mean, you don't use super heavy-duty, for instance U-joints, you agree?

Speaker 4

Yeah, you refresh everything annually and you inspect frequently.

Speaker 1

Yeah, and what about the actual axle shafts themselves?

Speaker 4

Axle shafts, funny enough, are actually Miata axle shafts. That's what we run in that car. Yeah, how does that make you feel no? It doesn't make me feel any better at all yeah, uh, it's pretty amazing how some of this stuff actually works, um, and then again it's just verify, verify, verify trust, but verify everything so you don't worry about overpowering any of these components we've tested them very extensively over the years.

Speaker 4

I mean, remember this car? We first campaigned it up here 2016 and uh, it's been in real mexico extensively over the years. I mean, remember this car we first campaigned up here 2016 and, uh, it's been in real mexico a couple times and I mean we've gone through four or five sets of tires in the last probably three months, four months, at msr. So testing down locally, um, with better temperatures and better grip than what we have up here, uh, we're very confident that we've engineered a piece that will survive.

Speaker 1

What is the current temperature up there on the mountain?

Speaker 4

Depends on where you're at altitude wise. The other morning we, when we pulled up to the top, it was 29 degrees. When we got there. That was one of the days we did not get testing Cloudy, windy, below, freezing. Before we left the mountain, of course, it was back up to 42 and then at the the bottom, we're at 74, 75 at the bottom.

Speaker 1

Now let me just tell everybody that hasn't actually lived this sort of thing.

Speaker 1

So I get up there to the very top of the mountain with the visitor's center and the nice parking lot, and there are still mounds of snow all around and the kids that have never seen snow are out there throwing snowballs and having a good time, and I'm going to say I'm just going to stay here in the car, if that's okay with you. A little hot chocolate, yeah, I don't think most people realize that you could be in your shirt sleeves at the bottom of the mountain. In the top of the mountain you better have a jacket on a day like you're talking about yeah, it's, uh, it's bizarre.

Speaker 4

The weather changes. That you'll see. And we've had race days where at the bottom it is 80 degrees at the start of the race and by the time they get to the top they've actually had to send cars back down because there was enough hail coming down that the cars couldn't drive up. I've heard those stories. Mother Nature is a real thing.

Speaker 1

Let me tell you something. At 14,000 feet, friends, friends, you're in the clouds. For the most part the day that I visited, there wasn't a cloud in the sky. It was absolutely perfect, thank you god. But uh, I can only imagine, and I've been at altitude where I've felt and seen all of the clouds that are blowing by me at you know, 50 miles an hour and there's snow in the middle of summer. So I've experienced that and I know. So do you guys run, even though the weather is inclement?

Speaker 4

Yes, you'll run, no matter. Well, until they feel that it is unsafe to run, and then they usually red flag the race, wait for weather to clear and then we'll start up again.

Speaker 5

Yep.

Speaker 1

It's a process. It is a process. My process is trying to wrap my mind around all of this and going, and now that I've visited recently, going.

Speaker 4

Make sure you log in on a mobile one YouTube tomorrow and take a watch. We'll be the 22nd car off the line, figuring three to four minutes a car. I would hope that we're off by.

Speaker 1

I guess your time would be about 10.30, maybe 11 o'clock 10.30, 11 o'clock, just in time for church to get out In-wheel time needs a race team.

Speaker 5

We'll call it Scaredy Cat Racing.

Speaker 1

Scaredy Cat, Don Armstrong, white-knuckling it all the way there. Oh my God. Well, best of luck to both of you. We'll be watching, We'll be keeping our fingers crossed and we're thinking first place. There you go. Good to see you guys, Thank you. Thank you, Yuri. Thank you too.

Speaker 5

Right God, scaredy cat racing.

Speaker 3

White knuckle racing, yeah something.

Speaker 1

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Speaker 5

Yes, I've got some stuff going and clearly we've got one big one coming up tomorrow, you've got the big one.

Collectible Cars for Beginners

Speaker 5

But you know, last week we didn't have a lot going on and there's something I forgot to mention. It was the 24 Hours of Le Mans last week, so a lot of the F1 drivers and some of the open wheel drivers were in France doing that. So my faux pas on that. But tomorrow, uh, june 23rd, you got virginia nhra nationals in richmond, virginia. Uh, it comes on, uh, about 3 pm, but the station it's on is to be determined, so it'll probably be a rebroadcast. You got nascar tomorrow, uh, new hampshire motor speedway. So a lot of east coast stuff going on new hampshire, new Hampshire. Tickets are still available, mike, if you want to go. So it's going to be on USA Network.

Speaker 1

I can only imagine you taking your accident up there to New Hampshire.

Speaker 5

New Hampshire. Give me some chata with jalapenos. So the Aramco Spanish Grand Prix is going on from Friday till tomorrow. It is F1, so if you like F1, this is what you need to be watching. So there you go. Indy Indy car is at Laguna Seca tomorrow. It's always a cool track to do, Indy's always good to watch. And, of course, IMSA is at Watkins Glen another road course. That is cool as well. So tune in on all of those networks.

Speaker 1

Okay, mr Mars has a special feature five cars under fifteen thousand dollars. I was thinking more along the lines of under five thousand dollars when I saw the cars that you were going to put up well, so so the idea? No, so what is so? Yes, what is the idea if?

Speaker 3

you were a young person, a younger person or somebody, even your age, for example and you wanted to start.

Speaker 1

Well, thank you for throwing me into that, oh boy.

Speaker 3

If you wanted to start a car collection, or you kind of wanted to start getting involved in the hobby. What do you look for? I mean, it's easy to say, oh, I want a 67 GTO or I want a 69 Camaro or 69 Boss Mustang. It'll cost you $ 40, 50 000. Oh yeah, not everybody can start that away. So I was trying to find something that you might could start with, that might actually be a vehicle.

Speaker 1

Is this a car that you're thinking maybe your granddaughter could get into? Uh?

Speaker 3

one of them, or two of them could be, yeah, but I was thinking more of something that people seem to be having an interest in that might actually be, uh, appreciating in the near future. For example, the Mazda MX-5 Miata is a very popular car out on the track. Richard Tomlin and them run them all the time, but the very first year, known as the NA, is the only one that came with a pop-up headlight, and they are something that people are looking for because they are rare in the world of the mazda miata, so that's something that might make that special. The na na is what they called it not available it was the very first year, you know.

Speaker 3

So it's got the pop-up headlights. You can have 1.6 or 1.0 liter engine, uh, five speed or an automatic, so it depends on what it is, but it could be something that in the future would appreciate, just because there's not a lot of them around. Another one that is a very similar thing is a Toyota MR2, particularly the AW.

Speaker 1

MR not.

Speaker 3

Oh yes, mr MR2. Yes, mr2. An AW11. Now this is again the first generation of the MR2 that was produced. Uh, from the 84 to 89. It is a mid-engine, so that's one of the things that makes it very different. Uh, it has a very distinct wedge shape, but it's the very first year that it was built, so there's not a lot of them around. So, again, that's something that could add to the appreciation of collectability. I could see it. Now the volkswagen, Now the Volkswagen Golf GTI MK2. Now, this is the second generation.

Speaker 1

Would that be the?

Speaker 3

Mark II.

Speaker 1

Who's the MK2?

Speaker 3

MK2. It is the second generation, built in 84 to 92. And it was part of that hot hatch era. It really kicked things up because of the performance with it and the handling, the build quality, and, yes, they did so again, again, something that could become a little more valuable in the future. The jeep cherokee xj. Now this is one that, um, you got to kind of take it with a grain of salt or leave it. You know it's, it's or leave it. It was built 1984 to 2001 and it's considered one of the things that led to the popularity of the suvs and it's where it came in with the suv, with the off-road capability.

Speaker 3

It's the f1 that is the two-door version of it, 4.0 liter uh engine in it and the v8 with no horsepower, with the inline six oh, my torque yeah yeah, yeah, and some people have put v8s in them, you know.

Speaker 3

So, again, it's something that could be collectible and is reasonably priced at this level for a collectible car. And then the last one that I was going to talk about is the Ford Mustang Fox Body 1979 to 1983. Now, this thing in particular, as we talked to the Mustang guys like Randy and them this is something they mentioned a lot of times is the fox body mustangs because the had a 5.0 liter v8 in it, so it was a pretty hot rod because it's pretty light, handled fairly well, uh. And then it's just a matter of, you know, body styling. Do you care for that kind of a body style on a mustang? Uh and that. But the engine and the popularity among the mustang guys are what make this potentially a car that will appreciate in the future, therefore making it collectible.

Speaker 5

Well, there you go.

Speaker 1

Would you buy that?

Speaker 5

The Mustang. They all have a little bit of a tickle in my fancy so I don't know. They'd have to grow on me. They would.

Speaker 1

So, jeff, we're going to give you one of those cars. I'll take the Fox Body. Yeah, okay, and then after the Fox Body, the GTI, the little screamer, yeah. And then the Miata would be in there. The problem is with that era that those cars probably have 300,000 miles on them now.

Speaker 5

But you've got parts. You can get parts and you can add on and you can restore reasonably well over a hot rod, the Mustangs, in particular that Fox body.

Speaker 3

There's just tons of them out there. My aunt had one that was a convertible. It wasn't a hot rod. Aunt who, my aunt that lives here in Cady, aunt who Danita, aunt Danita, yeah, yeah, so she had a convertible that was Aunt.

Speaker 3

B Wasn't Aunt B, no, aunt D, aunt B, but it was a real nice driving little car. It was a little car, you know. To me it had no relationship to the earlier Mustangs of the 60s and 70s that we grew up with, but it was a neat little car and there was tons of them around at the time and there still are.

Speaker 5

And they're worth something to somebody Exactly, and that's what makes some of them collectible, and we see stuff like that at some of the car events we go to.

Speaker 1

Yeah, we do, we do, yes, we do, in all sorts of conditions.

Speaker 5

Mazda with a Wankel motor in it. Yeah, there's that.

Speaker 1

Hey, if you'd like to get in touch with us, shoot us an email. The address here is info at inwheeltimecom, and be sure to follow us on Facebook. We're back in a flash. The original group of Loopy Tortilla restaurants will have you telling your family and friends just what the original recipe means when it comes to the best fajitas in Southeast Texas. Founder Stan Holt invites you to visit the first Loopy Tortilla near I-10 and Highway 6. Here is the original house that inspired the design of all the rest and the original charm that helped make Loopy Tortilla the go-to destination for Houston Tex-Mex. Nothing can compete with the original lime pepper marinade. That everyone will agree makes Loopy Tortilla award-winning beef fajitas the best anywhere.

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Loopy Tortilla Katie is another location that gives you the same quality and service Houstonians have come to expect at Loopy's. It's located on 99th and Grand Parkway at Kingsland Boulevard in Katie. Find yourself in Aggieland Head to the Loopy Tortilla in College Station, located just around the corner from Kyle Field, it's a great place to enjoy those famous frozen margaritas before or after the game. Going to Louisiana, the Loopy Tortilla in Beaumont is on I-10, so you can't miss it. The original group of Loopy Tortilla restaurants has the best Tex-Mex anywhere and you are invited anytime. That's it for this podcast episode of the In Wheel Time Car Show. I'm Don Armstrong, inviting you to join us for our live show every Saturday morning 8 to 11 am. Central on Facebook, youtube, twitch and our InWheelTimecom website. Podcasts are available on Apple Podcasts, spotify, stitcher, iheart Podcast Podcast Addict TuneIn, pandora and Amazon Music. Keep listening and we'll see you soon.

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Don Armstrong

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Jeff Dziekan

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Michael Marrs

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