The JWQ = The Just War Question(s). Rhetorical questions, mostly. In this episode, we cover the Fifth Commandment as it's explained in the Catechism. I'm just sayin': It could be explained better! I want a Venn diagram!
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On this World Day of Peace, Jack Gilroy (guest Ep. 6) and Mark Scibilia-Carver (guest Ep. 34) return to the podcast to give us an update on the project to get Ben Salmon recognized a saint, and Mark's new initiative to start a nationwide Catholic Conscience Objector registry. Featured song/video by Martin Kerr (used with permission!)
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Roger LaPorte (July 16, 1943 - November 10, 1965)
A Reflection by Fr. Emmanuel McCarthy
Roger La Porte immolated himself on November 9, 1965, as his response to the high tech and financially profitable massacre of the people of Vietnam that the U.S. politicians and military were conducting 7200 miles from the border of the U.S.—and to which most of the U.S. citizenry at the time were indifferent. The sacrifice of his life was his response to this wickedness and to the mass media deceit that was calculatingly covering up the daily fare of atrocities that men in the U.S. military were committing against the Vietnamese.
When news of his death, the manner of death and the motivation for his self-immolation became known, few in the Church had a good word to say about him, and most had clever, subtle, demeaning and dismissing innuendos when asked to comment on Roger. I was appalled then and remain appalled to this day at the way my fellow Catholics from Cardinal Spellman to Thomas Merton to Dorothy Day and most other Catholics threw Roger overboard.
Yet, I remember the aura of religious heroism, the almost reverend adulation, with which some of these same people treated the self-immolation by the sixty-six-year-old Buddhist monk, Thich Quang Duc’s, two and a half years earlier in Saigon on June 11, 1963—although they disagreed with self-immolation as a form of protest for themselves. Yet, where Roger was concerned, it was a radically different response, tenor and tone that was adopted.
But, to his eternal credit, Rev. Daniel Berrigan stood by Roger to the end and beyond, and in my mind rightly interpreted Roger’s act, motivation and witness. Dan did not and would not—nor would I— counsel Roger to choose such a witness. Dan, however, left no doubt after hearing Roger's death bed confession that Roger was following his conscience and was not trying to commit suicide, but rather, was voluntarily accepting suffering and possibly death so that others might have their sufferings relieved and their deaths avoided. Dan paid a price for standing by Roger publicly and privately, having the cruel wrath of Cardinal Spellman and his own Jesuit Order immediately come down on him.
Regardless of how we die, we all die totally dependent on the mercy of God. No one dies saying, “Lord, have justice on me.” In relation to the Vietnam War, Roger made his choice and others made theirs. Roger’s act resulted in him being burned to death. The acts of other U.S. Catholics and Christians resulted in tens of thousands of Vietnamese being burned to death.
Remember at this moment, the DOW Chemical Napalm Holocaust in Vietnam. Imagine the agony of that! That was Roger’s agony multiplied tens of thousands of times over. Indeed, Dan Berrigan after visiting Vietnam during the war called it “The Land of the Burning Children.” But one will search in vain for evidence that the wrath of Cardinal Spellman or of the Jesuit Order came down on any of the Catholics who set tens of thousands of human beings on fire in Vietnam, or on any Catholic institutions, e.g., universities, that taught Catholics to obey those who ordered them to burn Vietnamese people to death. Nor is there any evidence that the wrath of Cardinal Spellman or the Jesuit Order came down on any Catholic or Catholic organization who was indifferent to the destruction of Vietnamese children by the truckload each day. As is the case today in the Catholic Church hierarchy in relation to the genocide of the children of Palestine.
—Emmanuel Charles McCarthy
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This talk, called "In Search of the Truth," is the third talk by Fr. Emmanuel Charles McCarthy in his 3-part series "Theology of Christian Nonviolence." Find the entire three-part series here:
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Interview with Kathy Moylan, 81-year-old Catholic Worker, who wants you to write to the Pope and ask him to go to Gaza, circulate a petition in your church to this effect, and/or contact the Nuncio in Washington D.C. in hopes of reaching Pope Francis, who can do something by going to be with "the least of these."
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"A TRAGEDY BEYOND CALCULATING: The State of Israel Has Become The Tomb of The Jewish Soul" -- A talk given by Daniel Berrigan, S.J on Oct. 19, 1973, shortly after he completed his parole in a federal sentence for acts of nonviolent resistance against the Vietnam war. The speech was printed that month in American Report, a publication of Clergy and Laity Concerned, the anti-Vietnam War Organization.
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October 7 is the anniversary of the Holy League's victory at Lepanto in 1571, and the anniversary of the attack on Israel in 2023.
This is part 2 of 3. See Episodes 104 & 106 for Parts 1 and 3.
0:00 Charlie McCarthy and two hippie students meet Fr. Payton, the famous "Rosary priest"
--a potential collaboration
18:20 Fr. Payton's anniversary Mass of his death
-- a discovery
32:28 When governments are "big on religion"
--our friends in the CIA
37:03 St. Michael and war in Revelation
42:59 Fear and love
45:00 Destroying the image of Mary
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October 7 is the anniversary of the Holy League's victory at Lepanto in 1571, and the anniversary of the attack on Israel in 2023.
This is part 1 of 3. See Episodes 105 & 106 for Parts 2 and 3.
0:00 Facts of The Battle of Lepanto
10:11 Similarities with Iraq in 2003
14:05 Pious V and The Inquisition
16:16 A spiritual disaster
27:21 Battle of Jericho & Gaza
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46:23 Connection between Lepanto and Jericho
52:59 Were The Crusades just?
1:05:25 The cunning of reason
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An audio essay written by Dr. Jordan Almanzar and originally published on PrimeMatters.com, Nov. 1, 2022.
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This talk was given by Fr. Charles Emmanuel McCarthy for the annual prayer vigil at Trinity Site, New Mexico, on July 16, 2024. This was the location where the first atomic bomb was exploded in 1945.
For background, watch Episode 50: Fr. George Zabelka, Catholic Chaplain, 1945
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Saint Maurice, Feast Day, September 22. Followed by a homily given by Fr. Emmanuel Charles McCarthy on August 9, 2024, at the end of the Annual 40-Day Time of Prayer and Fasting for Gospel Nonviolence.
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Ellen reads aloud a new essay "Catholics at War & The Heart of Tragedy," A letter from EMF to EMJ.
0:00 Background on the essay
2:26 Introduction
THE PROBLEM AS I SEE IT
8:52: The Railroad Switch
22:09 Tension, Confusion, or Delusion?
38:28 The Ancient Eddy
53:52 Our Polar Night
MY PROPOSED REMEDIES
1:06:17 The Hidden Grammar of the Hidden Grammar of the Universe
1:24:00 Invitation for EMJ and YOU!
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On November 18, 1969, during the height of the Vietnam War, a group of Notre Dame students protested the presence of Central Intelligence Agency and DAO (Defense Attache Office, Saigon) on campus. At the time, Fr. Emmanuel Charles McCarthy was a professor in the literature department; he had also founded and was the Director of The Program for the Study and Practice of Nonviolent Conflict Resolution. Ten of the students got expelled. Fr. McCarthy ended up resigning, to show solidarity with the students.
On the 50th anniversary in 2019, Fr. McCarthy and four of the former students reunited to tell the story of what happened that day, why it happened, and how it has affected their lives, as well as the ripple effects it has sent through the institution of the University of Notre Dame. Episode 98 features their discussion, and Episode 99 features the speeches that were given that day.
The gatherings that have been happening at Notre Dame every 10 years on the anniversary of the protests resulted in the first ever memorial to Conscientious Objectors on a Catholic campus in the United States being erected on the Notre Dame campus, across from the famous grotto.
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On November 18, 1969, during the height of the Vietnam War, a group of Notre Dame students protested the presence of Central Intelligence Agency and DAO (Defense Attache Office, Saigon) on campus. At the time, Fr. Emmanuel Charles McCarthy was a professor in the literature department; he had also founded and was the Director of The Program for the Study and Practice of Nonviolent Conflict Resolution. Ten of the students got expelled. Fr. McCarthy ended up resigning, to show solidarity with the students.
On the 50th anniversary in 2019, Fr. McCarthy and four of the former students reunited to tell the story of what happened that day, why it happened, and how it has affected their lives, as well as the ripple effects it has sent through the institution of the University of Notre Dame.
0:00 Fr. McCarthy provides an overview of the event
3:50 Mark Mahoney, John Eckenrode, Chris Cotter, and Carl Estabrook (faculty member at the time) introduce themselves
4:55 Mark Mahoney on what it was all about
7:35 John Eckenrode tells his story and explains the 15-minute rule
12:08 Did the school set them up?
17:00 A retired DOW President gives Notre Dame $10 million
19:32 School would not even allow DOA and students to talk off campus
21:50 Suspensions and scapegoats
23:40 Fr. Hesburgh's treatment of the episode in his book
25:17 John Eckenrode explains the choices the students had and the way the legal case(s) unfolded
29:25 How Fr. McCarthy was "deceived" and how Fr. Hesburgh's book was "misleading" and sometimes "wrong"
37:07 Consequences in the university
44:38 Notre Dame's growth and endowment targets go from $35 million to $1 billion
48:38 John Eckinrode notes you will not find any plaques or memorials to the authors who exposed CIA or the conscientious objectors from Notre Dame
54:30 The "false witness" of Notre Dame
1:04:45 Question from a reporter: "How did this affect your life and what did you learn?"
1:24:00 Question from a reporter: "Would you recommend civil disobedience as a course of action to protest any topics today?"
Episode 1: Author Interview with Rev. Emmanuel McCarthy
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Jason Knudson joined the Navy in 1998, deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan, and now works in innovation and defense. We talk about the ongoing war in Gaza, among other things. Jason's perspective, which is different than mine, and comes from outside Catholic teaching on war, I see as a dose of worldly wisdom that the CAM podcast needs (not that I believe much in worldly wisdom on the topic, but it is worth hearing if only because, sometimes, worldly wisdom seems more connected to reality than the opining of the Catholic Just Warists who only want to talk about war in the theoretical and the abstract). Longtime listeners will, I hope, make connections with the ideas discussed more broadly on this podcast and will, I hope, share those observations charitably and thoughtfully in the comments section.
I highly recommend Episode 45 as a follow up to this conversation: https://youtu.be/SEMwUG2EJyc
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Thanks to David Gray for the interview on "Off Code and Unscripted" over at St. Dominic's Media. David certainly did his research! He hits on some highlights of the CAM podcast over the last few years. Part II will work as a great overview and introduction for new viewers/listeners of CAM! Note: You'll hear audio from videos Ellen previously made that he is playing from other videos during the livestream.
Part I: Ellen's satire and personal background
Part II: War, Just War, Christian Nonviolence
47:30 Catholic teaching on war and the proper context for JWT
52:39 The question we "SHOULD" be asking right now!
56:00 What do we do in the face of mass human "failure" on an institutional and nationwide level and the tendency for humans to resort to violence?
1:03:00 Responding to critiques of Fr. Emmanuel McCarthy
1:10:53 Is the sacrifice of the soldier the greatest sacrifice?
1:12:10 Hacksaw Ridge and the power of God
1:15:25 One final question regarding was the Church wrong to defeat the Muslims? Self-defense? Hitler? Battle of Lepanto? Etc.
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Join me in the class with Hugh Owen "Six Day Creation"! Starts June 4.
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This is one of my favorite episodes I've ever had the pleasure to record. Enjoy!
0:00 Why Hugh started the Kolbe Center for the Study of Creation
11:34: Is this Sola Scriptura, Protestant Fundamentalism?
18:30: What is "theistic evolution"?
24:31 Hugh's father and family history (U.N., Planned Parenthood)
28:25 The relationship between Theology, Philosophy, and Natural Science and how things got messed up among the Catholic intelligentsia
42:10 Is there any crossover with the work of E. Michael Jones?
(The video newsletter Hugh references in this part of the interview can be found here: • The Scofield Bible & Darwinism ~ Kolb... )
52:48 How the traditional doctrine of Creation is connected to war and the messages of Our Lady of Fatima
1:07:47 A clarification on "the errors of Russia" and the connection between evolution and Communism/materialism
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Patrick Thompson, who has been studying Fr. McCarthy's work, is my co-host in this episode on Stoicism and Christianity. (Our conversation takes some interesting turns!)
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0:00 Patrick Intro
10:20 Epictetus & Stoics
13:17 Relationship between Stoicism and Christianity
23:33 Stoicism
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--reason and perception
32:40 The Major Difference
--"The Bet" on Seinfeld
51:37 Constantine and the Cross
58:05 Gethsemane and more differences
1:05:05 Socrates
1:14:06 Attitudes towards death
1:26:00 Gambling versus loving
1:36:58 Popularity of Stoicism and Commercialization
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Thank you for listening! You can find the original essay "Do Heroes Go to Heaven?" at LewRockwell.com:
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Three emails sent out by Fr. McCarthy to his email list from February - March 2024.
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Bishop John Michael Botean (Romanian Catholic eparchy of St. George in Canton Ohio) issued this Lenten Letter to his people in 2003. The letter was read from the pulpit of all Romanian Catholic Churches on March 9, 2003. This document represents the strongest antiwar stand by any Catholic bishop in the United States (and quite possibly the world) in relation to America's invasion of Iraq. Employing his full apostolic authority, Bishop Botean rules that it is morally impermissible for members of his flock to lend their support to this war effort. The document is avaiable from several sources on the internet. This particular version was posted on the Center for Christian Non-Violence (http://centerforchristiannonviolence.org/downloads/Pastoral_Letter_Iraq_War.pdf) retrieved on 7/28/2008.
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Friends, if could you support me and the work I do on this podcast, I would be so grateful. Here’s a list of 8 different ways you can help keep the podcast alive, thriving, and growing in 2024.
0:00 Introduction and rambling
15:40 -- 1) Send money! :)
Venmo: @Ellen-Finnigan
Snail Mail:
Ellen Finnigan
1230 Big Thompson Ave., #104
Estes Park, CO, 80517
(This is a P.O. Box, but it must be addressed exactly as written above.)
16:50 -- 2) Join the CAM Book Club: https://bit.ly/48BNT2P
24:52 -- 3) Do Fr. McCarthy’s “Behold the Lamb” retreat: https://bit.ly/3tBiwqo
26:50 -- 4) Grab a free download “Great Thinkers on Geocentrism” and/or join the class!
Free download: https://bit.ly/4aR3VIe
Link to enroll: https://bit.ly/3vjXtZX
30:12 -- 5) Sign up for my newsletter: https://bit.ly/3vi176t
31:46 -- 6) Short Story class: https://bit.ly/48tQU5u
32:32 -- 7) Subscribe to my cha
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