The Battle to Control Food and Farming with Curtis Bowers

Food and farming matters to God because they are part of his design and creation and impact the life and health of every person on earth. But Satan also cares, because the control of food and farming brings opportunities and power for his agenda of death, theft, and slavery. As we seek to be faithful to steward the land and serve others, it is important that we understand the battle we live in so we can accurately walk in truth and live effective lives. In this episode I talk with filmmaker and speaker Curtis Bowers about the dangers we face in this day and age,  the joy of walking in radical obedience to God, and the opportunities we have as Christian land stewards.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:06

Welcome to the Redeeming the Dirt podcast. So glad that you can uh join us today. Um, today we're gonna talk a little bit about the battle um for control of food and farming. Um, as Christians, you know, we want to be focused on, you know, obedience, what Christ is calling us to do. And on this show, we really try to spend most of our time on what are those positive um practical uh ways that we can apply a biblical worldview to what we're doing, that we can bring solutions to the broken world, we can bring light into the darkness, we can help people, um, and we can be excited about what God is gonna do. Um, but it's also important um for us also to take time to make sure that we walk in truth in terms of just the reality of that bad news of the gospel, really, which is that sin is in the world. There is a battle for between good and evil, light and dark, uh, truth and lies, freedom, slavery that's been going on since the very beginning, and it looks different ways in different times and uh is um kind of ebbs and flows. But it's important for us to kind of understand the times that we live in so that um we can make sure that we are aware of the enemy's schemes, that we are able to walk in truth and not be deceived. Um, we want to be fear, like have a fear and trembling in a sense that we not be deceived, because Jesus warned us about that. He said that was one of the things to watch for um when we get close to his second coming. And uh the danger about deception is if you're deceived, you don't know it. And so we need to be, you know, careful and aware of like, um, are we um seeing in truth? Are we listening to trustworthy sources? Um, are we um living in light of hope? Um, but also um being effective at what Jesus has called us to do by walking in truth, both of the reality of the world we live in and the reality of what's coming and what's promised to us and the hope that we have as Christians. Um, food and farming is uh a very important thing for us as Christians to think about because um not only is it something God cares about and is a way that we really um experience him and it reflects a big part of who he is as the creator, um, but it affects people's lives in an amaz in a very significant way. I mean, if people don't have food to eat, um, then they die. And Satan comes to kill, steal, and destroy. So if I if you wonder, uh, do you think he also is interested in in, you know, being involved and and having being king over farming so that and food so that he can bring about uh his agenda? I definitely think so. And so as Christians, we need to make sure that we are um being bold in advancing uh Christ's agenda and in in farming and food, and realize that it really is linked to the freedom to be able to do all the other things that Christ has called us to. Um it's interesting in um Acts we see where that story where Herod died because of his pride um when they called him a god, that the people of Tyran Sidon didn't like him. They were quarreling with him, but they had to sue for peace because they depended on his country for their food supply. They had to be linked to this guy that they didn't like because they because of the food dependency that they had on him and as Christians, whether we're doing missions in other parts of the world or we're just trying to live godly lives with our families where we are, we want the freedom to be able to not have to be unnecessarily partnered with unbelievers, to be able to do the things God's called us to without unnecessary hindrances. And so being aware of um our dependencies is an important thing and who we're depending on and whether they're dependable or reliable or have our best interests at heart is something that we really need to take time to consider and give thought to our ways, not because we fear, but because we are living in reality of what God's told us is true. Um but the day and age that we live in, um, there are lots of uh, you know, voices to listen to, lots of confusing things. If you try to say, well, what are this what are the times we live in and what is true and um what's really going on? And uh and it it uh takes a lot of discernment and time and thought to really uh get a good perspective sometimes when the rest of us have you know busy lives going on with a lot of other things, and yet I think Jesus is warning to say, like if you you know how to dis discern the signs of the weather, you know, you need to open your eyes up and pay attention to the signs of the time around you means we can't just ignore them. Um, but it's a blessing that in the body of Christ we all have different assignments that God's given us and different giftings we bring. God's given me a passion for agriculture and bringing Jesus into that. And my goal is to be able to help people who feel who who don't have the time to do that and maybe don't feel called to it in the same level to be faithful and understand what they need to know about agriculture so they can focus on the other things God's given them to do. And today I'm really excited to bring on a guest that has really been called to um to devote a large part of his life and uh and thought and energies into helping Christians be aware of the times we live in, the battles that we're facing, and what we should do as a result, kind of like the men of Issachar in uh in the Old Testament. And uh, and so I really hope today that uh he'll be able to give us some insight into kind of what he sees so that we can take that into account as we're trying to figure out um what God wants us to do and how we should perceive the world. And uh so I want to welcome today to the show Curtis Bowers, and uh and I'm so grateful that you can be with us today, Curtis.

SPEAKER_01 5:50

Thank you, no, I appreciate what you do, and and um I'm glad to be with you.

SPEAKER_00 5:55

So uh Curtis Bowers, for those of you who don't um aren't familiar with him, maybe he um is the creator of two films, one um Agenda Um and Agenda Two, and um those are really uh helpful for me in terms of some of the history and understanding some of the um perspectives and worldviews of the people um behind some of the things that are going on in our country today. And then he also creates a weekly um kind of newsletter and podcast called Agenda Weekly, which I would highly recommend. And hopefully we can get those links at the end. But Curtis, I would love if you just tell us maybe a little bit more about um yourself, your family, and kind of how y'all um started on this journey and what your family does.

SPEAKER_02 6:37

Yes. Um, well, I've got nine children, God's blessed me with, and we're so thankful. We've homeschooled our children and and done a lot of different projects together. One of them was making those films back uh 2008 and nine, finished it in 2010, but it was a two-year project, and it was neat how God had directed our path to kind of see behind the curtain, see, man, there's a lot of things going on that I don't think the average person knows about. But you need to, just like you were talking about, a Christian of all people has to understand the times, otherwise you will be deceived like everyone else. And we're not supposed to be deceived, we're supposed to be the light that show expels the darkness and shows people which direction to go and what to do and how to do it and everything. So, so I just I had come across a lot of information. I was a representative in Idaho, and it's a miracle uh how God put me in that position, something I wasn't even pursuing, but uh he did that. And that's another just quick lesson in this is um I think if you are willing to submit to the Lord and just be all in, where you're literally allowing him to do, be the boss. What do you want me to do? I think very few of us do that. I know for 32 years of my life I did not. I always told him, please bless what I'm doing. I always told him what to do, but I was kind of doing what I wanted to do. I had a restaurant and doing these different things. And one day he just got a hold of me when I was 32 and I realized, wait a minute, he's God, I'm not. And I go, if I'm if you want me to do something different with my life than I'm doing right now, I'm happy to do it. You just let me know what it is. And for a couple years he didn't do anything, but then he popped me out of the restaurants, had the governor call me to appoint me to be representative. I came across this information, then I felt convicted to make a film, so I had never made a film before. I and I said, God help me, and he did. And so I see, oh my goodness, he had a completely different plan for my life than I had. And it was so much better than my plan. But I'd never ask, what do you want me to do? So I just want to encourage all of you listening, especially you young people, if you were to, at a young age, say, God, I'm in. I'm all in, completely in, you tell me what to do. And some of you men that are already have a professional, well, I got an engineering degree. Well, ask him, do you want me to use this for engineering or use this engineering mind in some other area of life where I can revolutionize that or whatever? But I just I think that's important. But so through all these different turns of events, God had us make these films and he blessed them where they just started spreading all over the country, and then I kept getting invited to speak, so we finally got a bus that we could all travel together because I didn't want to be away from my kids. And for 12 years was traveling all over the country every year, just trying to wake the troops, especially the Christians. My heart was for the church because I realized in all the churches I'd been in and the one I was currently in at that time, most of them didn't have a clue what was going on. They're living in this little fantasy world of, oh, everything's fine. And and, you know, they they kind of bought into the lie of the world that uh, you know, that you don't really need to do anything. Just go about your life. We'll raise your kids for you in the schools, and and you, you know, go worship God one hour on Sunday and that'll be good for that. And you know, we'd compartmentalized our lives, and and so um, but it but it was just a neat process in doing that where we just we learned to work together. I learned what a blessing a family can be to someone. I'd never used them before, but when God gave me something to do, I could not do on my own because I'd never done it. Also, I'm like, hey kids, can you can you you know help me learn how to set up these lights? Help me learn how to do this. So it was it was a really fun process, but I would God taught me so many different things through that. Um and then that information that we'd come across that we made into a film, he's used to just wake millions of people. And and he did that. We didn't do that, we just obeyed and made the film. But I I could go on for hours of just stories of things he's done that we had nothing to do with. But when we heard from someone else what had happened to the film, it's been translated in like 17 languages, and it's it's just it's all over the world. Um, but anyway, but that started from just a homeschool family and a father that God got a hold of him and said, God, what do you want me to do? And he said, I want you to do this. And then we obeyed, which we're so grateful. We all the time, even the kids talked about that. Man, I'm so glad you obeyed, Daddy, because our whole life changed because of that. Even my daughters married two brothers that we met because of the film. They drove all the way from Iowa to Idaho to meet us after they saw the film. They were so impacted. And we and then 10 years later, they end up, they were just little kids at the time. Two of those boys married two of my girls. And so God just does so many neat things. But anyway, that's kind of just an overview of how we came to that position.

SPEAKER_00 11:26

That is awesome. I I really appreciate uh just the God-centeredness of your testimony. That's what I love. You know, when we tell stories about our life, it's not really about us, you know. I mean, the hero of it is God. Um and if we can really learn to, like you said, just completely make him the center of what we're doing rather than just the rubber stamper of, you know, he's not the referee. Well, here's your what you're allowed to do or not. He's the coach, right? And we need to like let him lead. And when we do, that's so amazing, he'll take us and do uh just just draw us to himself in amazing ways that we would miss so much otherwise, you know. And it it Satan loves to just tempt us with the idea of feet, and he's like, Oh, he wants to take stuff from you, it's scary and all that kind of stuff, but he's ready to take us on that adventure that uh all of us would want, you know.

SPEAKER_02 12:15

Yeah. Do you want me to take just a couple minutes and tell him some of what I found that made me realize, okay, things are different than what they appear to be around us?

SPEAKER_00 12:26

Yeah, and that's that's what I would love. I can't think the next kind of idea that I I wanted you to go into anyways was just kind of like, you know, what is the real story we live in as Christians at this point in history, you know, um, and how is it different and what is it like? So that that may be similar to what you were thinking about, but if you want to tie it into that, that would be perfect. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:46

Yes. It's well, we're we're prone to think everything is fine because we have such a nice life in America. I mean, you're like, there's a problem? What are you talking about? You go walk outside, it's beautiful and sunny, and and and most people are cordial, and what so we you have this illusion that we're in Mayberry, but if you open your eyes and pull behind the curtain, you realize we we're not in Maybury. America has changed dramatically for the very reason we said to God, get out of here. You're not welcome in our schools, you're not welcome in our institutions. And so one of the things I found that just gives a brief history to make it make sense is this has been a battle. Satan has been trying to rule the world because he tries to mimic God and everything he does. That's the Tower of Babel. He's he's gotten different wicked people and stirred them up to try to conquer the world or try to take control of everybody and uh to produce a lot of death and slaughter and everything, because he loves that. That's that's what he's about. But back in the 1800s, a man named Karl Marx, who of course you're familiar with, he was just satanic in so many different ways. If you study his life, the poetry he wrote and everything else. Well, he was obviously given this plan of making it sound appealing to the common man to work toward this idea of communism, which is a socialist system and it's supposed to be a paradise on earth. And but it was written in such a way that it appealed to the heartstrings of man to, oh yeah, that's fair, that's just, we ought to do this. And but it was a wicked scheme because that wasn't the point of it. The point of it was to manipulate all the useful idiots, that's what they call them, to work towards setting up a system where you're totally in control, but to convince them, no, it's for you I'm doing this. But it wasn't for them. It was for one person to rule with an iron fist and to slaughter, we know at least 130 million people just in the 20th century during times of peace. Dude, that does not count the wars. That's in times of peace. That's what it was, but that was it's obviously satanic ideology, but that thing has taken root. Then in the 1930s, I came across a guy named Antonio Gramsci, who was a communist. And he read Karl Marx and all these things, and he went to Lenin in the Soviet Union, Vladimir Lenin, who had founded the Soviet Union, was the dictator at that time, and said, Listen, if you want worldwide communism, and I'm a communist, I want that, he goes, in the countries that believe in God, you're not going to be able to do what you've been doing, stirring up this Marxist revolution. And Lenin said, Oh, yes, we will. We will have world communism through a world revolution. And he kicked him out of the Soviet Union into Italy, where Mussolini threw him in prison and he spent the rest of his life. But while he was in prison, he wrote a book that was over 2,000 pages long called Notes from Prison. And in that book, he outlined how if you want to take over a country that believes in God with Marxism, he gave them the strategy. And what it was is you need to take over all the institutions of influence, media, education, entertainment, you know, all those different the church, all the significantness. You take them over and then you use them to change the people from within. So eventually a generation will rise up that wants socialism, like we're experiencing right now. 70% of those, 35 and under in America, have said a year ago in a survey they would prefer if America was a socialist country. So they have succeeded because they took over all the influential positions and then turned those against us. And that's what he said, and that's what's been going on in this country your entire life. If you're 10 years old or if you're 90 years old listening to this, that's what's going on. It's people that um are just driven with a satanic drive. They're so committed. I read a lot of their books and their articles and their newsletters and things from the Marxists. I mean, their commitment to this thing makes us, it's a shame, it's shameful of us. I mean, I I've read some of their stuff where I literally at the end started, God, please forgive me, please forgive me. I I have the truth, and I'm not, I don't have a fraction of this commitment to it. But that's satanic. I mean, they are just bound up in this thing. Um, but that's what's happened to our country. So they slowly got into education. That's why our kids are being taught, oh, you might be a little boy, or you might be a little girl, or you might be neither, and things that are just like so crazy and so anti-everything, anti-Christian, anti-God, anti-uh freedom, anti-America. I mean, that's the curriculum now in most of the schools in the country. Well, that was an agenda. That didn't happen by accident. That was 70 years of slowly, carefully getting the college degrees and then going into the schools and becoming teachers and becoming teachers at the teachers' colleges was one of their main goals. They go, if we teach all the teachers, then we got it made. Then dealing with the church, NOAA. Back in the 1930s, um, they started penetrating all the seminaries in America. And we know that because the man that founded the Communist Party in America in the 1950s, when he saw Stalin slaughter 20 plus million people, he was all of a sudden awakened to realize, wait a minute, this isn't what I thought it was, even though he had founded the Communist Party in America. And he left them and he came before Congress and they interviewed him on the Un-American Activities Committee there. And they said, What have you guys been doing? He goes, with so few loyalists, our number one thing we've been doing is going into the seminaries in America to take over the church. That's the number one thing we are against because we know how it's our main enemy because they're preaching a different uh gospel in a different than the communists are of man is God, man can make heaven on earth. And the gospel's like, oh no, you can't. You all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. You are there's no one that is good. You you need Christ to be regenerated. And so, but that that so that's all the things people have seen. They went into Hollywood, the Frankfurt School back in the 30s, so we've got to take over Hollywood because those films are so powerful. So all the different things, the news media, they knew if you control the narrative when you don't hear the other side of a story, anything sounds true. If one person tells them, oh, there's a big storm coming today, okay. If no one tells you anything else, then you think there's a big storm coming today, even if it's a blue sky, you go, well, that I heard there was a storm coming. So that's what's happened, though. So that's the dramatic change all of us have seen over our life. Was of course Satan was the commander-in-chief, but it was men and groups that had bought into the vision. We're going to create heaven on earth. And that really wasn't their goal, but they were going to preach that to get people to submit to big government, big control of everything. And then they were hoping to be at the top of that thing when it came to being like in the Soviet Union, where then you live like a king and everyone else is your servant. And um, so that's but that's kind of a history, and it went through the 60s with the rock rock and roll industry was a key part of it. Mick Jagger and John Lennon both were communists. They were interviewed many times in the Soviet magazine, the Red Star in Moscow back in the early 70s, saying, we are trying to break down the culture in America with our, you know, if it feels good, do it, culture to as part of this thing. A lot of people go, what are you talking about? You can go read the old the articles and things. They were part of this. And so it was just a satanic agenda to creep into everything of influence and then make it into a poisonous influence. And so that's why we are kind of where we are today. Um kind of just a brief overview of that.

SPEAKER_00 20:23

Yeah, that's uh that's really good. I think it's so I I keep telling my kids, you know, that um the times that we live in, both in terms of this the battle and then the technology and just all this stuff, I said you have to realize from history that this is unprecedented. You know, this is not normal. This is very not normal. And uh and so unless we study history, which is you know, being a bit demonized, you start going into, you know, let's talk about what people have done and what they wrote. And I mean, all the things that you're sharing are uh you know documented things people can go look up, but it would be like, oh, well, that's just conspiracy theory stuff. You know, it's like, well, it's just a way to turn off people from, you know, looking at history. And uh and and either, you know, you turn off people from that or you just let people go down the the the godless rabbit hole of you know, man is basically in control and who knows what's all going on and you know that kind of thing. But the idea is we want to walk in truth, and it's important that we understand the context that we live in so that we can understand what our role is to play. But let's go um, you know, as we as we kind of come to today, you know, we live now in the post-COVID era, um, where it's a very different world than it was before 2020. Um, as we're looking, you know, our audience right now is uh primarily Christians that are people that love Jesus and they love um, they feel called to steward the land, to go back to, you know, um learn how to grow food and And a lot of them they have a real heart to impact people in their community, but they're also, you know, trying to, you know, make sure that they're, you know, the decisions you make today in terms of what directions you make in life and what you should do or not do kind of has to do with um your understanding of the nature of the battle that we face today. And so as far as, you know, before we go, um I I think after that, maybe talk a little bit about like who is the enemy we face as well. So that as we're trying to um understand what our role is and who we're partnering with and what our strategy and like way that we engage as Christians so that we're not just ineffective. Um what are what are some uh better what are some perspectives on that battle and the specifics of who are who is the enemy and what is the nature of the enemy that we face today, you know, um as you know, Americans and as you know, me as a little farmer in Coosa County, Alabama, you know, what what is that context I live in that I wake up in every day that I don't see, but I need to be aware of, right?

SPEAKER_02 23:08

Yes. Well, as that plan that I talked about progressed into today, um, the environmental movement is one of the biggest movements to gain totalitarian control over the world with the health establishment. And those are almost, in my opinion, combining together where climate and health is almost the same thing. It's this monster of bureaucracy to control, but it's under the guise of, hey, we're all gonna die if we don't cut carbon dioxide. Or, you know, health, if you if you you can't go out without a mask because you might endanger someone else. It's two causes that are kind of universal and they love that, so you can't say, well, our state's not doing that because you're going, no, whatever your state's doing is affecting us too. So it's an area where they feel like they have legitimate control of the world, and so that's why they're doing that. So um back in 92, the United Nations had the Rio Earth Summit and they laid out Agenda 21, and they said, and they talk about that they're going to use the environmental movement to get total control of every aspect of our lives. And even back in 92, you know, 32 years ago, they talked about we need to eliminate the private ownership of vehicles. That's 32 years ago. And we signed on to it. George H.W. Bush was the first one to sign on, and all the nations of the world signed on. So it's uh it's something that sounds crazy, but you see, they're checking these boxes off. They're heading in this direction. And so, yes, the food, what you do is it's vital because food is freedom. It's really the only thing you really have to have. You could live in a tent, but if you can grow your own food, you can still live as many people did for thousands of years and did fine. You want to move down to a temperate climate and whatever, but you you know, you have your animals and you have your produce and things, and you're fine, and you have a very nice life close to the land, close to your family, you're all working together. So I know that's what a lot of people go, I want to get back to that. And it's a wonderful model. That's why God set it up that way. But they they they want to stop that. And they want to not allow you to have that kind of freedom. And that's why we see this as it's progressing now from then in 1992 up to today, even with the great reset. I I don't know if people are familiar with that term, the World Economic Forum, which is this huge group of globalists and world leaders. They meet several times a year in Davos, uh, Switzerland. And if you just watch their videos from their conferences and listen to what they say, they're saying we need to have a great reset. And by 2030, it's only six years from now, you'll own nothing and you'll be happy. That's their number one goal. But you that you go, that's stupid. It sounds stupid to us, like, what are you talking about? But when you realize that all the richest, most powerful people in the world say, yeah, that's what we're working toward, you have to be paying attention. You have to be looking and watching at the local level. What are they doing? Are they trying to regulate my little farm? Are they trying to do things because if they can control those things, just food alone, if you can control that, you control everyone. I mean, Stalin starved to death over 5 million Ukrainians, right, with the wars going on right now. Five million of those back in the 40s just starved them to death because they wouldn't go along. They were starting to revolt, so he cut off all supplies coming in there until 5 million of them had starved to death, which is a horrible way to go. Um, food is so powerful. And so, but then when you see the cut inconsistencies, this is what I always look for. I want to know does the person, are they well-intentioned or are they evil? And a lot of times once you pull back the curtain, you go, oh no, this isn't ignorant, naive people. These are evil people. And the the whole real quickly, because it's important, if you're interested in farming, food, anything like that, the environmental movement you need to be up on. And their foundational premise, as you know, is carbon dioxide is a pollutant. Well, that's laughable if you do grow anything on your own. Carbon dioxide is the single most vital element for everything that is green. And we're at the low level of the spectrum. It'd be wonderful if we could double carbon dioxide in the world, it would be a great blessing to everything that is green, which means it'd be a great blessing to us too, because we live off what's green or what's eats what's green. So anyway, but that's those are key things to know. So you don't get into this, oh, I guess maybe we better cut things. Oh, I guess, you know, it's all a lie, but but as you dig in and study, and that's what I try to do each week to keep up on these things to educate others so they don't get sucked into things. Because one thing I've noticed about the other side, they're so great at make making something sound good that is not good. That's uh that's and that's why as a Christian, you cannot be deceived by the father of lies through these people that have this lust for power that's hard to even comprehend over you. And so these major globalist organizations, they don't want you farming, they do not want you growing healthy food, they do not want you selling it to your neighbor, they do not want local, like-minded communities of people that are taking care of each other, which is so biblical, and so what we should strive to do. They don't want that. So when you know that, you realize, okay, we're in this battle. They're going to start coming more and more after that with whatever excuse we'll do of no, no, that's destroying the planet, and we're all gonna die, so you can't do it, you know, eliminating your herd, like we see in the Netherlands. They're further down the road than we are, but where they're making the farmers, you know, kill their farm animals, and then they can't use nitrogen fertilizer anymore. And they can't, when you see that going on, you realize, too, they're setting up the conditions to have food shortages. So it's it weeds out the people they could care less about. But the the the top of this thing, unfortunately, really is a racist thing. Um, and they minorities of the world, their lives mean nothing. The Bill Gates of the world think of the minorities as just not they're nothing. They're just, you know, that's why they're so into abortion, so into you know, vaccinating them with things that are actually toxic and hurting them. It's not helping them, sterilizing them and things. So it's a it's a it's a a lot of that stuff going on that, but but the food is one of their key areas. You can just see there's so many things that have happened over the last year or two with a lot of the big food distribution centers and things. You go, is that really an accident? You know, 13 of them in a month or whatever were destroyed by fires, and an airplane went into one of them, and all these things you're like. I don't know, but it makes me concerned because the conditions are arising, especially in other parts of the world, which break my heart. There's going to be dramatic food shortages, and so many millions of people are going to starve to death. Um, just since COVID, one last thing, and I'll let you redirect this in case I got off course, which I I'm prone to do. I'm a I'm a rabbit trail guy. But um, one last thing. Um, when COVID first started, I have my little podcast thing, and I talked about, I could see when they started the lockdowns, I said, I don't know what COVID's gonna be. You couldn't tell yet if how serious it was or whatever, but I said, I know locking things down. I've been to many third world countries. If you lock them down, they're gonna die. And about six months ago, the United Nations, their numbers, not mine, they said, we estimate at least 80 million people died from the lockdowns. We can't allow that kind of stuff to go on. We that's why that's why, as a Christian, we have to know what's going on and we have to stand and say, you will not lock these things down, pure. You have no right to do that. You can't stop people from being to provide for themselves, um, you know, and things like that. But that's some of the things we just live through. But it all goes back, they want to create that dependency. They want us all dependent on the system because then we'll obey whatever they say because we're dependent on them. That's that's the bottom line of the whole thing.

SPEAKER_00 31:00

Yeah. For uh for years I've talked about the um, you know, kind of the the poor state that our agriculture's in, which really is just, you know, a result of taking God out of it, where we're not factoring in, you know, um, the value of life and you know, all the metrics that God really looks at when he values things. And so we've ended up with unprofitable farming and no new farmers and high rates of suicide and unsustainable farming methods and uh a lot of uh dependencies and fragility and poor health and unhealthy food and like all those things have been around for for decades, you know. Um, and what that's done is it's driven us to this place where we have really an incredibly um you know intricate and amazing food system on one hand, um, in terms of supply and delivery and production. And if you're just viewing it from that point of view, it's it's pretty unprecedented in what we what we've been able to accomplish, but it has put us in a extremely dependent state on that system and on the people that control that system. And historically, for instance, you know, the getting food from the grocery store um in our lifetime has been dependable, you know. And for the most part, we haven't really uh had to worry that the people that are supplying that or in control of that are out to do, you know, to to utilize that to our harm. Um, but just because that is true in the past doesn't mean that uh it it will it is it is gonna be that way in the future. And, you know, a lot of people in the farming homesteading movement are all about, you know, we want to be more resilient and self-sufficient and all that kind of stuff. Um, but a lot of it's more like evaluating our dependencies, understanding is what we've been relying on as dependable as it used to be. And are who are the people there? You know, are there people that we really wanna be linking ourselves with and partnering with? Um, because that thing in Proverbs where it's like, be sure you know the conditions of your flocks, pay careful attention to your herds for riches, you know, economic money, financial, you know, it doesn't endure forever in a crown or governments aren't secure for all generations, you know, there's just even there's so many things where it's the ebb and flow of economics, the rise and fall of nations, all those things, you know, would give us enough reason to humble ourselves to appreciate the normal, um uh like uh simple ways that God has provided for people throughout history with planting seeds, growing them, eating what they produce. And we can do trade and industry for things that make our lives better, but as far as survival, um I think it's it's uh important to understand that uh, you know, whether and I and I'd love your input on what your kind of perspective of this is, but uh we live in an era where we know that Jesus has come, he's provided salvation, he's you know, uh given us that that new covenant, and now we're in this church era and we're living in light of the imminent return of Jesus, just like we have since he left, right? Like that we should have been living in light of that. And uh the things that he told us to watch for, both himself, you know, his to his disciples, and then later through John and Revelation, those are things that um you know have been uh obsessions for some people, and like nobody wants to think about it in another another sense, but um, because of of sometimes uh people's you know being so much into it that they're they're not even being faithful in the rest of life, um, and there's a division about that. But I think uh the those things that Jesus said and that we are told in Revelation, it's like when Jesus told his disciples, you know, we're gonna go up to Jerusalem and uh and the Son of Man's gonna be delivered into the hands of s of you know the authorities and be killed and crucified and on the third day raised from the dead. And it says the disciples were like, What does he mean? You know, and of course we're like, What does he mean? What do you mean he mean? You know, like he told you. And it says, but it but it says it was hidden from them. And I think it's because he wanted them to know what he said so that later when those things happened, they could be like, ah, you know, like this fits with what he told us. They weren't supposed to understand it, but they were to be familiar so that as things happened, they understood that this was part of God's plan. And I think, you know, there's different, there's some different eschatologies, but I definitely uh believe that a lot of the warnings that were given us by Jesus and and you know in Revelation are something that we still need to heed from my perspective. And and so uh this idea of um a of economic this Babylon system being used to seduce the nations and then pave the way for totalitarian um you know uh competition against God, you know, like a substitute return of Jesus in a sense to create a heaven on earth, which is you know by Satan, um, is also something that even though we can't, you know, we don't want to go where we're predicting things to for a t to a T, we need to say we should pay attention when things smack of certain things that we're told about, you know, whether it's the mark of the beast, whatever way that that's fulfilled, or it's you know, the consolidation of everybody trusting in one Messiah. And it's interesting that I had a a uh a young woman that came to one of our trainings and she had just gotten recently saved out of some real deep new age um spirit spiritist kind of things. And she said it's very interesting because even before she came to the Lord, she was began to be aware of some of these themes that you're talking about, these this evil, um, and she was actually shocked that it was in the Bible and these Christians were also talking about it. But she said it's interesting because a lot of people that are in this new age, you know, listening to spirits or whatever they might call it in their thing, they said she said there's one common theme that everybody's hearing that we're about to enter a new era of amazing, you know, like um utopia kind of thing, and there'll be this leader coming that's going to head it up and really solve all of our problems. And this is what they're getting from this, you know, across the world. So sometimes we're like, is there a conspiracy who's the one conspirator behind all this like common direction of stuff? It's like, well, they're all listening to the same person, but it's it's a spiritual enemy because that's verse, you know, we we don't struggle. The struggle is not against flesh and blood blood, but against the authorities and powers in the dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. And uh, and I think it I think it it is not something that we can fail to take into account. Um, but we want to uh I think how how do we factor in, I guess, for your mind, the return of Jesus and some of those things without getting too obsessed or focused on it where we're distracted from what we're doing. Um but but that it informs the way we interpret, you know, solutions, ideas, you know, and and perspectives that are gonna be that are handed to us by the world or bought into by the church.

SPEAKER_02 38:22

Yeah. Well, I mean, I think our duty as a Christian is to be faithful today. That's it. Today. Because you might be in a car wreck tonight and you're gonna stand before him today. So it's whether he's coming back tomorrow or not, or whatever, or in this season, but it's like that's um again, that'll be a wonderful moment and everything. But I've seen too many people around the country so dependent on that they're not using their time wisely now, and I know that is wrong. I know that is wrong. If you really thought he's coming back next Sunday, you would be doing different things this week than you will do this week when you're not sure about that or not. So, so that I don't ever use that as an escape, but but the Bible tells we are to live today for him. That's right. He said, Don't you worry about tomorrow and don't you want the things of the past, you focus on today. That's all you can handle to be faithful today. So each morning when you wake up, God help me to be faithful. And you do it. And when you go to bed at night, if you were faithful, God thank you for helping me be faithful. And if you weren't, God forgive me. I I wasted my time. I didn't do a talk to that person I should have talked to today or whatever. Where you you just make a clean start and the next morning you wake up fresh, you're ready to go. That's so so keeping that mindset helps you just worry about today as far as your energies of being faithful with the time you begin. But I think as it commands us to understand the times, as it commands us to love our neighbor and things, we have much more of a responsibility than to look out on the horizon. And that's what I kind of feel like God's called me to do. And I see there's storm clouds. There is a storm coming. I just promise you that because you reap what you sow. That's it's a principle God has established. We have done things, we've planted seeds for the last 60, 70 years, and they are going to have a harvest. Um, and it's not going to be good. So it's something you can you know with 100% certainty is coming because God is just. And those are his principles. But when you see that, you realize I'm supposed to love my neighbor. So one, I need to pay attention to those clouds and what they and the sign of those clouds. I need to be prepared for rough times. So if that happens, I can be a blessing to others. I'm not running around scared. And what do we do? What do we? I'm no, I'm ready. I knew this was coming. I'm I'm prepared the best I can be, and God's He's my provider, his eyes on the sparrow, so I know he's watching me. Um, but he wants us to be wise. And then where we thought of those around us, because that widow down the street, she probably doesn't have a clue what's going on. I need to have enough to take care of her too. And I think where you're thinking outside, how could we ramp up our production if we needed to? If there was a real crisis, what could we do with our property we're not doing now, but maybe have a plan for that? So you realize, oh my goodness, the food systems are crumbling because there's another virus or there's an EMP attack or some other unforeseen natural disaster or a sunflare that takes out, whatever. There's so many potential things. You don't need to worry about those, but you need to be prepared for uncertainty because we know we're living in an uncertain world. We know uh just what we've lived through the last few years, there's a lot of things like that. And I think more of those things are coming because the wicked are in authority almost everywhere, which is sad, but that's a judgment of God. And we haven't been faithful. So it's like when you see the wicked prospering, it should make the Christian humble to the and repentant. God, I'm sorry, we I know we deserve this. Please have mercy on us. We we didn't stand up when they took you out of the schools, we didn't stand up when you know they passed where you could kill your own children, and we didn't, you know, like we could have back then. That's when I was a little kid. I mean, that's when, you know, just the time, I love this thinking about this, showing how important your little individual actions are each day. But in 1962, when they took prayer out of the schools, if the next day everyone that claimed to be a Christian in America, which was probably 85% of the population, if they would have kept their children home, guess what? Prayer would have been in the next day. Because they have to have the kids. They have to have to keep the system going. Just that simple sacrifice. Johnny, you're not going to school today, come sit down. What no, but they wouldn't, instead they complained, oh, this is not good, this is not good, but their kids stayed in there. And so they raised the children, and that's who's running things today, and it's so we're kind of having consequence. But I think, again, not getting overwhelmed, but being um purposeful in planning for the unexpected, because it's clear if you look up at the sky, oh yeah, it there's a storm coming, so I need to get ready for that. But in a in a way, instead of an anxious way, it's in an exciting way. How's God going to use me? Because when things start crumbling, people start looking for hope and they start looking for answers. So the more prepared I can be to be a blessing, to be cheerful when everyone else is, I can't believe what's going on. Like, oh, it's okay, God's in control. And we're like, how you know, so they'll be looking, so then you share the gospel in Christ. This I think that's why God, throughout history, has caused so many crises to happen, allowed them to happen, because the fruit of them usually is tremendous. When it's the suffering, the death, the uncertainty, God uses that to soften the heart of man and he, oh God, help me. And and then, and so as a Christian, it's the greatest time to be alive. It's the greatest, most interesting life. We are in this battle for truth over evil. I mean, it's it's I think it's the most pivotal time in the history of the world, right now, and God picked us. He picked you, whoever's listening to this, he picked you. Think about that. And then think, well, why did he pick me? That's a good question. Because if you don't know, you should ask him, God, why did you have me born for such a time as this? Am I fulfilling what you would want me to do? Is there areas of my life I'm not being faithful? Am I wasting too much time on technologies that are just draining the life out of me and the energies to have a relationship with real people and to hug real people and look them in the eyes and talk to them or whatever? So just it's a time for us to reflect and prepare and then put our, you know, put ourselves to the plow and just keep being faithful one day at a time. And most of all, and then I'll let you go, is um as a father, we need to do everything we can to keep the hearts and minds of our children and our grandchildren. Satan is after them, the world is after them like I've never seen. It makes how I grew up where there was temptation look like a joke. I mean, right now, it is so much deception and lies and half-truths, and that are just coming at the young people and just coming at them. Come out, come on, we're having fun, you're missing out. And we have to just keep building praying for them, building them up, teaching them that God's got a plan for you. He had you bored for such a time as this, and keep encouraging them. But but parents, grandparents, don't ever stop doing your best to impart that truth, to be that good example, and to love on them and to inspire them to go do something great for the Lord because that's the greatest tragedy of my lifetime of the generation I grew up in. We love the they lost all their kids. So their kids are the ones that are promoting the evil and pushing forward the agenda to just grind America down and our freedoms down and to make the earth be the thing we worship instead of God and everything. So it's a um it's something that I it gives you a meaningful life. You if you do a great job with your family, you've had a very meaningful product. Just that. If not the why never land fluence anybody else, that's okay. If you were faithful right there where you are, and those kids all grew up to love and serve God and raise their families to do that, you've had a tremendously meaningful life.

SPEAKER_00 46:14

That is awesome. Well, I'd love to go into some more, uh, just a few practical like uh encouragements for people uh at the end. And I think just uh maybe paint this word picture. You can tell me if this uh maybe whatever allegory or whatever is uh is a good picture of where we're at today. I kind of feel like uh you know, God has shown us so much mercy in our country and in our world. Like it's not so much, you know, is judgment coming someday, but like, why haven't we experienced it already? You know, like we're already below empty and all, you know, like going going down and below. But it's you know, you kind of picture, as I was talking to my wife the other day, I said it's almost like we're on the Titanic, you know, and it's sinking. And some people are saying you need to get into lifeboats, but the restaurants are still serving food, the band's still playing, you know, you can feel the deck tilting a little bit, but it's awful cold out there, you know, and and if you look back, like if you if you flesh out maybe a different picture, it's kind of like a you know, a luxury liner that we were all uh you know, uh got we used to have our own little uh schooners and sailboats that we sailed around, but because it's easier to go take you know a cruise on the cruise ship, we're all on that. So now when it's sinking, we're kind of like we don't have any options except to go get in a little dinky you know, lifeboat, which might save us, but it's definitely not a good way to live per se. Um and I feel like one of the the sad things is is that uh the there's the part of the plan in that ship sinking is that there's gonna be another ship to come along and pick people up, but it'll be a slave ship and it's not gonna be one that you would have ever chosen to get onto unless you had no other choice, you know? And so yeah, I feel like uh some of the tension in my life right now is I feel like we need to have our lifeboat and kind of like have that set up in a sense, our arc, but we also want to like still engage and be reaching out to equipping and talking and like on the ship that hasn't gone down yet, you know. I'm saying like we have a role and responsibility on there and both to get supplies from it and to share with and like and and and and encourage the people with the reality of what's going on on the ship and help the people that are in the lifeboats to you know like thrive the best they can when there isn't a ship there anymore, you know, to supply them. Um so do you have practical like some steps and suggestions and or first of all, if you have any input on that kind of picture, but then what are the things we can be doing to engage still, you know, I'm saying with the current taking the opportunity of the amazing blessings of things like this technology and the and the and the times we do live in, which is like a gift from the Lord, but at the same time, you know what I'm saying, invest in being able to be impactful and decrease our dependency on that. So it makes sense. It's just it's a hard tension to maintain.

SPEAKER_02 49:06

Um Yeah, no, no, I I like that analogy. That's is that it's what they want it to be. They want us all, every man on island to himself, not connected to anyone, not and and the only hope of anything is grabbing to them. And yes, they will be the master then of that person that has complete dependence on them. So that's that's the goal that they have in their just lust for power. Um but so we need to just knowing that that's going, yes, I think just waking people around you. My films, if you haven't seen them, uh you can watch them on Amazon if you just want to rent them or whatever, or you can go to our website. But the first one was called Agenda Grinding America Down. And if you were interested at all in what Noah and I talked about today, you'll really enjoy that, but it's a great tool. This is the reason we made it. So you wouldn't have to spend years studying what's going on, what's going on. You watch a 90-minute movie and you go, oh my goodness, I get it. Okay, I understand it. But then you also have a tool, and this is what we've encouraged people to do, and hundreds of thousands of people have done this all over America, had showings in their home where you just invite some of your friends over you care about, and you watch this to help awaken them from their slumber, where they're like, oh my goodness, I didn't know all this was going on. And that's one of the greatest things we can do. That's getting people off the shift going, that thing's going down. And you when you show them, they go, Oh, I see, it makes sense why that's happening. So then you're more motivated to go, okay, how do we become dependent on ourselves and our neighbors in our community? Where I do some of the things, he does some of the things, he does some of the things, that family does some of the things, where together you have everything you need for life, which again is not very much. It's a pretty amazing how simple life can be like it was for so long. Um, and so you you start to have that. So you realize, okay, I'm not dependent on their system. If tomorrow the food system collapsed, um, I'm not gonna starve to death. I might be eating a lot of potatoes and drinking a lot of raw milk, and you know, but I'm gonna, I'm gonna make it like people have throughout time without all these, you know. We have so many, you go to a supermarket, we have so many different types of foods and things. That's not normal. Throughout history, people would have a few, you know, dried figs and a fish or something. I mean, you just you don't have and you don't need all that stuff. We've got obsessed with just variety and all this stuff, but you have some healthy, fresh, you know, natural vegetables, a little meat and of some potatoes, right? That's that's a great life. And most people in the world don't even have that. So I mean that just having that, you're you're a wealthy person.

SPEAKER_00 51:38

Yeah, we tell people that it it the secret to to growing what you eat is to limit yourself to eating what you grow.

SPEAKER_02 51:46

That's right. And that's all you need. That's right. And when you grow it the right ways, you know that's your whole focus, it's so healthy. God God designed those things to taste good, but to be just what our body needs. Where it just, I got everything I need to make that immune system healthy and strong, which is so important during this time, when I think another virus thing will be coming at some point. Not because it's my opinion, they're talking about it. The the next World Economic Forum conference coming up here, I think real soon, any time now, um, it's called Disease X. The new there's gonna be a big disease coming. Bill Gates last year had a conference called Catastrophic Contagion 2025. And I watched, I listened to their speeches, so it wasn't me projecting on them. They said in 2025, we're gonna have a pandemic that makes COVID look like a joke. That is their words, not mine. And they said it's primarily gonna kill young people. And so it makes me go, how do you know that? How do you know these things? You know, and so it makes me know I know how evil they are because I've really studied them. And so it makes you go, that's probably what your plan is, that you're gonna try to do something. So again, being aware of that. But every person you pull off that boat where they get in their own little dinghy and they're there, but they realize, okay, yeah, it's a different life, but I'm still I'm alive. I've I've got my life, I've got my loved ones around me. Um, the better. So when that thing goes down, they're not a total casualty to the cause. Um, and then as we do that, the one great blessing of COVID I really see is I get to travel a lot to speak to groups all over, it'll it awakened tens of millions of Americans, and that's a blessing. God took their this evil thing and used it for good. Um, and those people, the next time some big thing, they're gonna go, no, we will not do that. We're not gonna obey because you have no right one to tell us to do that. You have no authority, they're outside of your jurisdiction. But number two, that is harmful to my neighbor, and I'm supposed to love my neighbor. I will not allow you to do that. And you'll never close another church in this country, and you will never do all these different things. We will not allow it. And so it helps build the ranks of the people that are out from their system. And the hope is that when the slave ship comes along, we'll say, no, thank you. We're doing great. They'll look at our little peasley life. You live in a little couple acres out in the country, and oh, that's a meaningless life. Not to us. Thank you. No, thank you. Have a good day. And you say no, and you're there where you're still God's sustaining you, you're getting close together and to your community, which is wonderful. That's the one blessing if he all has a big crisis. You'll see how close you can get to people. And it everyone, I know that my parents lived through the late the 30s and the they those times when it's so rough, it bonds in a way, like war, men that go to war together. They're so close, nothing can separate them. I mean, and so it's uh it could be a great blessing. It could be God answering our prayers, allowing a huge storm to come and hit. One, so that our spread of the gospel is so effective because it's on soil that is ready. Yes, yes, I need hope. But it's also to get us get rid of all the fiddling, wasteful things of our time and focus on the priorities of our life, um, shine in our light, be in the salt, trying to preserve where we live, our little county, our little community, our state, making it the best state there is, trying to be involved in those things, all in moderation, because we have a lot of responsibilities, but realize we do need to be involved in all of them to a proportion because we're supposed to love our neighbor. That's the best way a Christian loves his neighbor is by not only speaking the truth, but living the truth. So when you share the truth with them, it makes sense. Because they know, yeah, you are different. And you say the only reason I'm different is because of Jesus. That is the only reason. And so then the gospel makes sense because they see Jesus as real by your life. They realize, oh my goodness, he has to be real because you're just so different. And that that's our that's our task here on earth is just to make God look good. Um, and so when we do speak that truth and we need to have the courage to do that, it's vital. You can't allow a man to starve to death when you have food to feed him. Or I mean it's that example, but it was the spiritual food of life. And so, but I think being faithful in those little things, um, gearing up for the storm, not being discouraged or depressed or anything. It's like, no, it's our time to shine. If we're ready, and we were we've got our kids of what, hey, kids, we're gonna grow extra double this year because I think a lot of people are gonna need stuff and we're just giving it to them when everyone else is, oh, what do we do? Um, I think it'll it can be a I don't know, an exciting time to be alive to see what God will do, even though yes, we prefer the life of ease, but the life of ease doesn't produce a growing, strong Christian that is dependent on God for his daily bread. Um, but hard times do. And and so we might be, God might be allowing us the blessing of going through those times to really see him work in ways that you don't get to see when you have a pantry that's so full you don't know what to do with it.

SPEAKER_00 56:57

Yeah, the light definitely shines the brightest in the darkness, and I think we live you know in a in a grace period now where we have an opportunity to be different, to be faithful, uh, not because we're trying to be different, but we're just trying to return and stand on what's always been true. Um, and I think those times of difficulty and judgment often are accompanied by a great harvest, like you said. And uh yeah, like as a farmer, once the harvest comes in, you know, you don't have much time to build other harvest wagons or anything. Like I think we you know, we should all ask ourselves, you know, if there was a hundred people in my community that wanted to come to know Jesus and wanted to like know what it meant to follow him tomorrow in our community, would we be would we even know what to do? You know what I'm saying? Would we be would we have answers for them? Would we have a life in Christ that was worth duplicating amongst those that group? You know, what do we need to do to be ready to be used by God in that kind of event that we sort of dream of harvest, but would we actually be ready for it? You know, is something that this season is critical that will impact how much of that harvest will be able to be taken care of well, you know. I'm saying and that's right.

SPEAKER_02 58:19

No, no, and that's why you know this is it's just pivotal, but God has given this season. The wheels haven't come off right yet. We're we still have and we still have a lot of freedoms, even though we've lost so many, we still have a lot of freedoms in this country. We need to utilize them now. Don't think for a second, when the crisis comes, you're gonna go share the gospel with your neighbor if you wouldn't share it with them now. It just doesn't happen. And don't think all of a sudden we'll have a we'll get a garden, you know, when the crisis comes, it's not gonna happen. You you right now you start preparing and you start planning. God, how how would we if you needed us to double our production? How could we do that? And we've even thought about those things because that's your neighbor. And he loves when we're thinking about our neighbor and not ourselves. He loves when we're thinking outside to shine that light out to those people that realizes, oh, those people are Christians, that's why they're giving us food. And we're like, yeah, that's the only reason we're giving you food. Wouldn't give you a drop. I'd go steal your stuff from you if I wasn't. But I know, no, God's love is overflowing out of me to you because he loves you. And so I want to be part of that, so that's why I'm giving you this or whatever. So it's a it's a preparedness, but it's an action today. It's action. It's in your prayer life, you're with your prayer journal, writing down things, and then you're just having a plan. What's our plan for this year, like this spring and this summer, as they listen to the stuff? You help encourage them and to do this. What you know, are we doing it? Yeah, we're doing a little bit more than last summer. And it's coming out a little bit better. We're learning how to control the pests better, or this and that, all these little things that you're growing, but all that is preparation for what's coming. And the very fact you're listening to Noah. God brought you to that podcast to have someone teach you these things, but not just teach you those things. Teach you those things from a Christian perspective so it was balanced and appropriate and proportional to the way it should be. You're not a greenie that's worshiping the garden, you're growing your things in, and it's you're out working in the garden thanking the Lord for creating such an incredible system of this soil and arrain and these seeds, these little seeds that are like machines, all different sizes, and they create something totally different by just adding water. I mean, if you ever haven't taken time to think about a seed, maybe some of you are around them too much. I every year, because it's kind of new to me in the last 10 years or so, I didn't grow up growing things, but I just shocked every time I put this little seed in there, and it comes up, I'm like, that's unbelievable. We should be sitting there going, that's the greatest thing ever. And this one little seed that looks almost like this one is going to grow something totally different. I'm still adding just the same thing to it, water. And this tastes like a strawberry, and this is a tomato, and this is a pepper, and that they taste totally different. How is that? Because that little machine God designed is a miracle. Every single one of them is just shocking to me. And I go over on that because I and I never get unamazed by that, but that's that's what he's called us to do in reverence to him, in thankfulness to him that he has made it where we are capable of doing those things to provide. And um, no, I think it's exciting times, but we we're we're the warriors he put on this earth for right now, and he knew everything that was going to be going on, and there's a lot going on. And so try to pay attention to those things so you're not ignorant, but then make your efforts to educate those around you so they're not they're not deceived by the lies either that keep coming, and then just build community, build your church, whatever church you go to, build, build, build, and and and reach out, make sure your church is reaching out to that community to be a blessing to those in need, to be a blessing to those that are hurting and different things. And then God will have taken all that work, and I think there's gonna be a big harvest from all that tilling and fertilizing and planting and stuff, and and so you know again, I'm I'm I'm excited about the future.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:17

Yes, definitely. I just want to encourage everybody listening. You know, I I hear from a lot of people that uh feel you know called to agriculture, called to gardening, called to do these things, and yet there's a it's not just from a practical point of view, they feel like there's some missional aspect of it. And I think um for such a time as this, God wants to use agriculture, um, whether it's a little garden in your backyard or a bigger farm or whatever, or if you're going overseas and teaching it, or if you're doing it just in your own community, um, as a way to um equip the church to be the ones with practical solutions to people that are based in the heart of Jesus and with a tool, which agriculture is so amazing in its ability to help us to introduce people to God just in the natural way that it communicates that and and in which we engage with him in that. And so that's where um, you know, with our Wellwater Garden project, we've been, you know, equipping churches and Christians with tools to be able to plant simple gardens that reflect the heart of Jesus and encourage people to use their gardens to teach other people, where it's not it's more than just equipping ourselves, but it's equipping our communities and equipping others to equip others because that is something that God loves to loves to multiply through that kind of thing. And that will uh our prayer is that God will can will equip and raise up a network of of Christians who are there just to serve their community in dark times, both with practical skills and the hope of Jesus when that that day comes. And uh, and I think very few a lot of us uh we just need to be encouraged to to go for it, to not to not hang back, to make sure we don't have regrets sometime when that comes to say, I knew God was telling me to do something, and I just wasn't willing to take steps. Part of my goal and and what Curtis is sharing with us is to help us be like, No, like the ship is really sinking. We really do need to obey what God's telling us to do. And if agriculture is a distraction from your calling, don't do it. It's not a formula. The goal is not to survive, the goal is to be obedient so we can be faithful and uh uh God can bring forth the fruit from our lives that He wants to in the grand story that He's telling. But food and farming, I feel like, is gonna be uh what we do and our faithfulness in this little realm of God's kingdom is is has a lot of impact and is gonna be very much um an important part of the battle um that we stand strong and that we are faithful in, even though it's not as impressive as some of the other um you know fronts that there may be out there, it's gonna affect a lot of people's lives. And um, so Curtis, thank you so much for that encouragement today. Is there anything that you would like to leave our listeners with um before we finish here?

SPEAKER_02 1:05:01

Well, just um be faithful one day at a time, don't get overwhelmed, make lists of things you would like to do and then just slowly start on those, but always keeping everything in proportion. Uh again, the faithfulness with your spouse, with your children. That's just top of the list with your church, then with your neighbors that live right next to you. So slowly move out from there, but don't you know do it all at once because it then you sometimes just give up. Like, oh, I can't do it. So just step at a time and praying that God will direct your path so you're focused on the main thing at the right time. And um, and then just uh just know He He is whatever disaster might come, or whatever thing, uh He is watching over you. He knows you. He's he's watching every little bird in this guy that's jumping around outside my window here. He cares about every single one of them. So so that's it, that's security in the midst of uncertainty, is knowing. You know, if we all get arrested, go, Oh, you're farming that now that's a criminal offense. Going to jail, he'll be sitting right next to us, just like Paul. So that's the encouraging thing. Even the worst, worst, worst case scenario. I won't be there unless he wanted me to be there. And he won't, it wouldn't have put me there unless he's going to use me there. And when we get to heaven, we'll say thank you for whatever it was we had to go through. Whatever, thank you for for you're perfect. You knew what the perfect plan was. So just trust and obey, but be faithful today. I'd really encourage you that. Just each morning, God help me to be faithful. That's what I try to do. And I've I think it helps me not get overwhelmed by all the different things going on. So that thank you, Noah, so much.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:38

Yeah, awesome. Well, if you could just can you just uh tell us uh where people can find out about your stuff, and then if you I would love to just close with you praying for our our listeners.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:47

Make sure absolutely um agendaweekly.com, agendaweekly.com. You can buy the films on there if you'd like to and things. There's a little store, but also you can sign up for agenda weekly if you're interested, which is a little like like you know, was saying a little like kind of a newsletter each week and prayer and action items, and then I'll have a little talk on some key thing that I think it's important to understand. And I spend my week doing that so others don't. So you can spend your time doing something. I feel like God's called me to do that. Um, so that's probably the best way to do that. Agendaweekly.com. If you want to just watch the films and rent them or whatever, you can do that on Amazon.com. I don't like Amazon, but that's the only place that allows you to do that. So um, but anyway, but yeah, so I'll close in prayer. But Noah, thank you so much for having me on. Thank you for what you're doing. Um what all of you are doing in trying to understand how to productively use the earth to produce healthy food is so vital. And I think you're gonna uh really see that in the days and years to come as they create the synthetic foods and they try to get control of the food systems. More and more people are gonna be drawn to you. And then that's great when the Christian and when people are drawn to the Christians who are doing that, because then you'll have so many opportunities and things. But it's it's um it's exciting. But I'll close in prayer. Dear God, we just thank you for your blessings. We thank you for this day, we thank you for this time together. Please help the things we talked about too have been helpful, educational, motivating, and encouraging. Um, just help all of us, dear God, to know what you would have us to do each day. Help us to be faithful in the little things. And please just uh take our loaves and fishes and feed the 5,000. Take our little efforts and do something great with them just because that's who you are. And please always give us a good testimony to our neighbors, to the people around us, where they know we're Christians and they know that you make a difference in people's lives. And bless our efforts when we share the gospel. Please humble their hearts to accept and receive you. And we love you very much. In Jesus' name, amen.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:57

Amen. Well, thanks again, Curtis, and thanks everybody for listening. And until next time, I encourage you to be faithful, be humble, and to keep redeeming the dirt. God bless.