The Super Bowl is Set and the Astros are Cheaters

Erik and Brian talk about the dominance of the 49ers and Chiefs. Plus, why are the Houston Astros players not being punished? Also, how old was Ferris Bueller’s best friend?

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spk_0:   0:05
Welcome back to another edition of the BBC podcast Week 20.

spk_1:   0:11
Eric Dough Brats and Brian Coleman after the NFL championship Sunday conference games and Brian, I think they lived up to the hype. That's where we're going to start a lots to talk about. We were away. I felt like a 1,000,000 things happened in sports. We need a podcast at least twice a week, and let's start with the football will get to their stuff. Kansas City beats Tennessee. Green Bay loses to the 40 Niners where you want to start.

spk_0:   0:32
Um, both great games. Let's start with the first game the day, which is Kansas City over Tennessee.

spk_1:   0:37
Both of us pick the winner, by the way.

spk_0:   0:39
We did. Yeah, the spreads for both these games was unusually high for championship games. Both teams favored by a lot of field goal, and they covered in Kansas City, sort of more of the same from last week. They they started off slow. They started off sloppy. Tennessee came upto build a 10. Nothing lead. Ah, then 17 to 7, I think. Then a couple plays by Patrick Holmes to Casey quarterback makes a great throw to try Tyreek Hill for a touchdown. Get some 17 14 and then late in the second quarter, a beautiful runway looks like he was gonna get sacked. Or maybe he walks down. He runs down the sideline and stays inbounds. And it just makes an incredible and like, sort of took the least two of the Tennessee Tech defenders with him into the end zone, and they went up 2117 and they were often

spk_1:   1:25
running that play. That 27 yard run you're talking about is one of those price of admission plays like when you talk about baseball, right? You want to be in your seat when you know Darryl Strawberry's up. Exactly. Uh, I actually stopped the game on the TV and had my wife stop what she was doing and the kids who were half watching the game on their devices. I said, I rewound it and like, check this out and you look at this and I was just He's just you know, it is what it is. The second full year playing and he attacked, we should be in super both years. If he doesn't jump offsides. 1,000,000 miles. Yeah, there are there in the

spk_0:   1:59
Super Bowl. And yet, and all he did last year in his first year as a starter was win the league MVP and thrown at least 50 touchdown passes. Yeah, he's something, and he just does things that I want to get back to the play that run, because if you haven't seen it, you know Google YouTube it because we'll be one of those things. Like I was thinking like John Elway, given points of their career. Like what? Elway finally won a Super Bowl, eating his career just like he did like the helicopter sent herself. And now, 20 years later, we've seen that play 100 times and it feels like this Mahomes run is going to be one of those things, Like 20 years from now people. The bigger plane will be the intruders like Super Bowl 75. And then we showing the greatest moments of the 1st 74 Super Bowls. And even though this wasn't in a Super Bowl, somehow that'll feel champions. That'll get in the montage. Most definitely.

spk_1:   2:45
I mean, you know, you talked about the line, they thought they were high. I just you know, the Tennessee, they stare the team That scared me the most of the weekend just because, you know, if you line up that big back like we've been talking about Henry the last couple right? And he was doing his thing in the first half and then I don't know if they made adjustments. I didn't love Tennessee's play calls in the second half. Now they kind of went away from what they did. I'd like to have their aggressive throwing the ball a little bit early in the game, but it just the Kansas City offense. I like. I said it last week. I don't I just something about him. The home's the best player in the field. I don't think Andy recon Screw this up. I might be wrong next two weeks from now, but,

spk_0:   3:20
well, it's It's interesting that you say that because I just as you were saying that I'm thinking about how that offense in that quarterback can cure a lot of ills. Even during you talk about Tennessee's coaching decisions and there were some questionable once on Tennessee's part. But even towards the end of the first half they were, uh, the Chiefs were like using a lot of time they didn't use time outside. Guys beat up the process. Here. It looks like maybe we might CBS speed being for some Andy Reid clock mechanism. An added penalty? Yeah, penalties. Well, that's the thing. They had bad penalties that came out with another slow start, but he's able to just basically Maskell that, and we'll get to what's next for them, their next opponent. Opponent A little while, and I question whether or not they can afford to do that in two weeks in Miami. But so far, so good. And he the other part I like. I like watching the Holmes's. He does this thing and how our minds we can you watch the Marino. Marino played football. He would throw the ball like he was throwing a dart back behind his ear. But it's so quick you could barely see his hand move. My home says this thing where he says, throwing balls 50 yards downfield. He's kind, just like explicated like he doesn't have, you know that people think about excited on whip, right? You know you're here was the quarterback fundamentals. Get your feet set, good footwork. Square your shoulders. He's not do any of that dude. He gets flipped the ball like he's flipping something into a waste basket goes 50 yards downfield. I guess I'm saying is that he's fun to watch and he's

spk_1:   4:42
really good. And as you mentioned, you know, we'll get into down two weeks from now what they can do. But I just I think people just have to appreciate how how good this guy's and and he's gonna be the face, the NFL for a long time.

spk_0:   4:54
He is. He's already somebody pointed it out. Um ah, he's already when this is a big deal. Nowadays, it used to be on the cover of Sports Illustrated, and he was, He's on the cover, was on the cover of this year's Madden game, and that used to have, like that Madden curse. Someone get hurt after they had it and someone posted, you had no Madden curse. This year, he's gonna be Yeah, he's the face of the NFL for awhile, okay?

spk_1:   5:15
He's gonna be doing it for a long time, a long time.

spk_0:   5:18
He's a mean. He has a human video game and he's fun to watch. So,

spk_1:   5:21
like you said, there were so many times where you thought that he was, they were trapped. But then a couple of times, he just has that ability to move around a little bit, just like other quarterbacks doing this league. I mean, the Baltimore quarterback who eventually ran out of momentum there, but he just he just There's something about him. He's just smart

spk_0:   5:38
and I don't want to take away. It's not like he's a one man gang. This isn't like LeBron Dragon, the Cavaliers. No, I mean, he said, Eat on that. The speed on that team with those receivers and Travis Kelsey is the best tight. Kelsey is the best hiding in the league. I mean, he's their speed and the way they they designed the place the offenses designed. He's always got a guy he's always going to space to throw the ball to. And if he doesn't between his arm strength and their speed, some was always able to break off a pattern and get open or come back and make a play

spk_1:   6:09
Hill Hill. Just even when they run those jet sweeps. When they toss the ball around, everyone in the building knows what's coming

spk_0:   6:16
and you still think fast and there was a play

spk_1:   6:18
where I think he ran eight yards around the right side and, yeah, he was so fast for that 10 yard

spk_0:   6:24
clip and it looked like nine times out of 10. When you do that wide receiver reverse and you see where it's going with Lineburg backer, I think was a linebacker. It doesn't matter when the defenders was already getting to the edge nine times out of 10 the best he's going out of bounds at about a five yard game. Nice play, Nice plate, positive guards. No, no, no. He just runs by the guy and just just two steps into the end zone. And

spk_1:   6:44
how many times, just today, when they needed a first down was my home is able to get the nine or the lovely My God use the drive's going where every time you thought Tennessee was gonna get back into this game and look, they hung around, they did not get blown up. Now they had a couple different chances late again. Andy Reid throwing the ball on the fourth down play late in this game, which cost him an extra 40 seconds off the clock. That's just under three minutes ago is just unacceptable. It's just It's so dumb

spk_0:   7:08
again. There's Annie has been in the league for a long time. Is that great success? But again, he's like a lot of these coaches. A lot of coaches aren't even as good as him, like we got back to bad. And sometimes I think they need a 13. Okay, who's just played a ton of Madden to show them how to use the clock guys, is how you treat time outs.

spk_1:   7:24
It's really that sort of God, It's that simple. I mean their defense, that the Chief's defense scares me. I I mean, listen, but they're gonna win. If they're gonna go win a Super Bowl, they're gonna win it scoring points and figure it

spk_0:   7:34
out. Yeah, and it's heated. They will figure it out, and we're gonna get in That, too, in terms of what some of the opponents they played so far, they're gonna get a little bit of a step up in competition.

spk_1:   7:46
Yeah, they haven't seen a defense like they'll see in the Super Bowl against San Francisco again. We'll talk about that, get two of the other game. Uh, the 40 Niners I watched every play. I watched every play I listened to. The first quarter of the Chiefs game has come back from the Yukon. Women's game is today. They won by 60 Very go, and uh, and then I was able to catch the rest of the game on TV. But I watched every play of the second game and, you know, e. I picked San Francisco to win the game. So, obviously for different reasons, I'm rooting for them, right? But I still correctly. I just I was so disappointed in Aaron Rodgers. I walked away from that sand. Is he really in all time? Great, because it didn't feel like it when I was watching the

spk_0:   8:23
game. I can't really knock Rogers for this game. I'm gonna can hit a bad a bad game. I don't know. That knocks him out of being the one of the all time greats. I don't think it does, because I've seen very few quarterbacks play the way Aaron Rodgers plays. We're talking about much as we want to praise Pat Mahomes. He's been the lead for a few years and he's only been a starter for two years. I think this is there's a lot to unpack there with Green Bay. Green Bay. And here's the thing about Rogers. You could say what you want and have. You know, this Never say never say die. We never quit. We never give up. I have to believe that he knew early on and probably that whole team knew early on it wasn't happening. The Packers, I mean, they were just They just got steamrolled something about. But there was a couple

spk_1:   9:11
of chances in this game. You're right. There was a couple of chances where you almost wanted to see him. Will the

spk_0:   9:16
team, right? Like, come on, guys. Get on my back and just won a couple times he

spk_1:   9:20
looked disinterested. Like what? Like you didn't want it again. Maybe that's what you're saying. He knew. But at the same time, that

spk_0:   9:24
competiton you like Come on. By the way, if that's the way he's thinking, that's a crappy wait. Oh, yeah. I mean, the very least. You may be wrong, but a couple of times, just his body. You're such a fox news body language expert to come in, right? Yeah. What was he? What was he looking like? What else but He also has sort of that Lord, he's hard to read because he could be up 36 to nothing of that. Sort of like you have a leader like a look at this face like I got this. Listen, win, lose or draw, guys, I'm going home

spk_1:   9:47
to my hot girlfriend. I got millions of dollars. Life is good.

spk_0:   9:50
I thought his girlfriend's Danica Patrick. It's okay. I'm sorry. Sorry. No,

spk_1:   9:58
but seriously, just a couple of times, I guess I wanted him to inspire his team and it just and look, he's got a great back in a couple of receivers. Maybe it's a young coach. Maybe didn't help him there, either, But a couple

spk_0:   10:08
of things. I don't think the young coach had a great day, either. I will say this, um, when the team, when you're playing San Francisco and they're running the ball down your throat over and over and over again. But there's still a chance we could get back into this game and we got a little inside baseball here, but you can get out of the nickel defense. You could get out. They're not. They're not through. You could get out. Listen I thought that I mean, they were They were almost, but they were back

spk_1:   10:32
in the game in the third

spk_0:   10:33
quarter was a lot of time. There was. They were back in that game, but when there was 27 14 did you really feel it felt like after that when they've got the ball back and they were still down 27 14? And now here's where you could make it a one score game and again, to me, that's one, like,

spk_1:   10:46
I never got nervous, but at the same time, I was like, It's just you were waiting for the shoot. What there's that one plays. Is Garoppolo gonna make a mistake that, you know, Rogers had the fumbled exchange with center That was a killer. I was waiting for something like that to happen. The San Francisco. But it just didn't They were fundamentally sound. They You know what? I tweeted us during the game. They're just work tow, Watch that first half, they were just playing tackle football. It seems like a simple thing to say. But watching it, the 40 Niners were playing tackle football. I'm not a big hits. They just were sound all over the

spk_0:   11:21
field, but that's what they've been doing, the whole for the most part for the whole season. You're right. That's what they did yesterday. They ran the ball and they made the quarterback really inconsequential. I read something where you know, you know how many passes Global through eight Last time winning quarter playoff quarterback threw fewer passes. ESPN of Ystad today, Bob greasy against the Raiders in 1970.

spk_1:   11:44
I like Troy past electronics men's line I sometimes through eight passes and 1/2 but usually was the second after nap by four year ago. It's a great line, but it's true. It's just listen, Matt, I think going forward there grapples. You have to do better than that. They won a Super Bowl, but again, it's just that the way they're chunking them up with the running plays toss right toss, right. The running place with the

spk_0:   12:05
cutbacks place beautiful. They were doing like the designs are beautiful. Trap place, power sweeps block. Just street. Man on, man blocking. It was beautiful. Rahim most start runs for cuter and 20 yards was cut by like 17. I didn't know that. I didn't know this today that he was cut by 17. Never heard of. Yeah, for like a month ago. Neither. And I I believe the Jets. Are you sitting down with the Jets? Cut him at least once, if not twice. I know that's hard to believe you about. A team that has now now, now that Kansas City is going back, the Jets are now firmly in places having the longest drought between Super Bowls. Kansas City's finally going back after

spk_1:   12:40
3 50 years, and the other thing is to talk about a little bit. I heard a lot of people saying how the Packers were a paper tiger. Listen

spk_0:   12:47
together, 14 4 You know a man. We talked about this vision state. He's talked about this. We were 13 and three and I said to you a few weeks ago, I said I was watching the game. The game's late in the year of the Packer games. I'm like, but someone we both looked at each other. We said they're 13 and three.

spk_1:   13:03
I didn't know it at the time. When you asked me and told me that

spk_0:   13:05
I know I was just surprised. I thought, you know, I don't like the 40 Niners just because I'm a Cowboys fan like Oh, I'm young enough because I'm old. I'm old enough for the old man to remember Joe Montana and White car making me cry when I was like nine years old, so I've never liked them since then, but I like them from the beginning, the playoffs to get to the Super Bowl because they just don't seem to be. We talked a few minutes ago about how Mahomes is able to sort of erase some of the Kansas City mistakes, and they don't become killer mistakes. San Francisco so far hasn't made those mistakes. They run the ball extremely well. They don't get penalty, they don't. They don't take dumb penalties. For the most part, they've been good about protecting the football. The defense has been phenomenal.

spk_1:   13:45
There's a couple of times where I thought they get a little conservative and second half Yeah, at the same time. And look, he didn't throw ball what there was midway through the second. He didn't throw a pass in the third quarter. I don't

spk_0:   13:55
think I don't believe he did.

spk_1:   13:57
It wasn't till the fourth quarter, where they threw the ball. A couple different times, but and it was funny to you. Talked about the running back. Rahim. Most most most art. Mr. You know, when you're comparing someone in the last time, I always like it when they say the last time this happened as you mentioned right the second most yards rushing in a playoff game to Eric Dickerson for the Rams on January 4th, 1986.

spk_0:   14:17
Oh, I know that game against my Dallas Cowboys

spk_1:   14:19
248 when you're when you're I remember that you talk about flashbacks. I mean, Dickerson with those goggles, and it just made me chuckle when I saw

spk_0:   14:27
well and amazing when you believe I'm gonna date myself here. But when you have deter Brock as your quarterback is that Rams team, did you give the ball Derek Turkistan a lot wth

spk_1:   14:37
e deter Brierley? Compare some indexing all Lynn Dickie was. But listen, the Packers, you know I love the 40 Niners in the game, Mr Chance in Hell that they're gonna lose that game.

spk_0:   14:48
Well, I think this is the interesting thing because I think both teams are really good. Have a step up competition. If you think about it I was thinking this driving here tonight because I have nothing else to do, but I'm trying to prepare for a great podcast. The Niners were able to get to the Super Bowl without having to face you to the Saints or the Seahawks to did this. Young's gave them fits. Split those two games during the regular season. We know what type of game they had against the Saints. They able to do that. Kansas City? No. No one would never saw the Ravens, you know. So I'm not trying to, like, downplay the teams that were in the got there. Tennessee earned the way to get to get to play in the championship game. Um, you know,

spk_1:   15:31
Road was a little easy.

spk_0:   15:32
It was a little surprising. I don't think either one of us thought you don't month ago around Christmas that we would see those teams build events this terrible without playing like a New Orleans or Baltimore. One of the

spk_1:   15:42
dinner Boston are one of the Patriot riders today? Tweeted. If the Patriots don't lose that game to Miami in weeks, 16 are the Chiefs in the Super Bowl today?

spk_0:   15:52
That's a great question that is a great question, but that same and ramifications, really things

spk_1:   15:57
like that. But it is that great, quite lose that game.

spk_0:   16:00
They don't lose that game. They don't buy no plan in New England.

spk_1:   16:03
So all right, so we just digested a couple of games. I'm looking forward to the Super Bowl. We'll talk about that in our next podcast. I'm not prepared to make a pick it. I have a team that I'm leaning towards, obviously, but I do to save that will let it marinate a little bit and teach about that a little bit of other NFL stuff to talk about as well. But before we talk about our next segment, you got something to read?

spk_0:   16:25
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spk_1:   17:46
right, Brian, I This is not on our list of things to talk about. All this NFL talk got me thinking about it. Like, are

spk_0:   17:52
going off script.

spk_1:   17:53
I'm going off script here. All right. Have you seen the Aaron Hernandez document?

spk_0:   17:56
I haven't. And I'm not really. I see. I assume you have seen it

spk_1:   18:02
when we talk about this. I ask you about this last week.

spk_0:   18:04
No, I don't think it had been out.

spk_1:   18:05
Was no came out, but I hadn't seen you. S Oh, I've seen it twice. He watched it twice. I watched it last week. I was away and I made some friends and we watched it. And then I watched it again today, actually, with my wife, kids were out running around. She said, Hey, honey, you're away. You were away last week, and I I know you wanted to watch his Aaron Hernandez documentary. So, uh, why don't we watch it together?

spk_0:   18:27
It sounds like a romantic thing for you is very romantic comedy. Wow.

spk_1:   18:32
And I said, Ah, sweetheart, I watched it last

spk_0:   18:35
week. Oh, really? You sat through it again? Anyway, I

spk_1:   18:38
said to her, you know what? It's so good. So it's three parts in 60 minutes long each part. But I'm telling you, you don't even have to be a football fan if you liked watching the making of a murderer. But this is the same producers, I believe, is it? It is so well done. It is so well done. And you? There's several news. Eight personalities that air you. Can you hear them talking in it? They basically took some air checks really voice and put it under some pictures. But

spk_0:   19:05
But you guys have propriety. Proprietary reigns

spk_1:   19:07
over anyway. But it is. It is so good It does. I don't remember half the things that happened during that trial.

spk_0:   19:16
We should set up for people that are Don't know or don't remember. He is. He is a local. Sees it. He was

spk_1:   19:22
a local crystal central. Yeah, John Pearson did a feature on him when he was in high school and they used some of the video in the Netflix documentary. But really, the things that you learn about him and just about just the are our lives in general. How just little things in your life can really mess you up. His father died when he was 16 and his mother started dating a man that was married to their cousin. Like literally a day after the father died. Like basically brought her into the funeral. That's that's not ideal. But it's just in the things that happened when he was with the Patriots. And the Patriots do not look great in this. I mean, he talks about how they were shooting him up with torture, all or whatever, before every game the drug was banned by the NFL, was it? Yeah, they You could only use it if you were recovering from a serious injury, but they were based on the page, he said in one of his jailhouse conversation. They have everything you can imagine with some of this guy. He basically they shot him up with Twitter all before every game. I think it's totally I may be saying the wrong thing, but something along those lines. But trust me, if you're a football fan, if you're ah, just like a good story, watch it. It's

spk_0:   20:28
well, it's a tragedy. It's been there's been a lot of set about it since he passed. It's just the whole thing happened several years ago when he was arrested in eventually and in his own life in prison. It's I haven't watched it. I will, so I could have a better

spk_1:   20:40
even in the future. And I'm even telling you, not joking around like you could watch it with your wife and you both would be. My wife watched the first episode right turn on second.

spk_0:   20:49
Should I watch with six year old? No, I just wondered. Jerk, You know, there's been a lot of reporting on him, and I've read a lot of stuff on him. I know there was some here, some questions, and this is not. He had some questions when there's a lot more so having troubling questions of the sexuality drug use, a lot

spk_1:   21:06
of that it's and it hits the full gamut of

spk_0:   21:09
I can't yet. I cannot believe that the Patriots come out smelling like roses. I can't believe that floor University of Florida, where he played his college Urban Meyer God,

spk_1:   21:17
you know, Bible. First Bible makes him look or will it so just whatever. There's so many red flags that happened this kid's life, but he was a star, so they all want doesn't always doesn't always happen exactly to you so much that here's a quick other Netflix think Ferris Bueller's Day Off is on Netflix.

spk_0:   21:34
You have seen the movie Eric. It's been around for a while,

spk_1:   21:35
but here's the thing I let my kids watch.

spk_0:   21:38
Did you really

spk_1:   21:38
My 12 year old in 10 year old?

spk_0:   21:39
How they like it loved a couple

spk_1:   21:42
things. There's couple, so there's a couple of off color or sexual innuendo type remarks. And I knew they were coming because I've seen the movie so many freaking times growing up work. So I would talk to them about the movie when I knew a line was coming.

spk_0:   21:54
Did you do the thing? We're like, You know, something inappropriate for the age range is coming up and you try and talk over the sink. What are you guys got? New shoes. Exactly

spk_1:   22:02
what they were saying. Some sort of, you know,

spk_0:   22:06
crude remark, Right? And I said, Hey, Keegan, you know, this part of the movie is what they're talking about here for this, okay? And what did he say? That no, no. Oh, I think I see a pony.

spk_1:   22:17
Yes. Yeah. So the kids watch fares, but okay, I'm sorry. I gotta stop it here for

spk_0:   22:22
you. Getting mad Affair Ferris Bueller. Can we Just again. There's a lot of that movie there. That's just it kind of seems silly when you Well, I saw it a few weeks ago. Was actually when we were out somewhere somebody added on We're sort of half washing up. It does seem like we talked about the fact that what was his best friends named Sharon Cameron, could we talk about? I'm not making this up. But the actor who played Cameron Ah, high School senior, the actor who played him at the time was 36 years old. He was 36. He's like 60. Ferris Bueller was 24 or 25. I don't know the actor's name. He's been a bunch of 24 20. Matthew Broderick. I don't know that camera. The actor who played Cameron, but he's in his. He's in his mid 60. Really? Okay, you do your little phone, Reese, you little Internet research right now. Tell me if I'm making it up. I really knows more useless information that may I believe you. I'm not down,

spk_1:   23:09
man. Just 36 years old. G's man, that was Jennifer Aniston wasn't in Ferris Bueller. Why would someone put her in?

spk_0:   23:17
She wasn't. Jennifer Grey was before she had a fate was Charlie Sheen with Alan Ruck. Allan Rock. Alan Ruck played Cameron. He was also in that that sitcom with Michael J. Fox, which escapes me.

spk_1:   23:29
Yes. Uh, one worries than mayor.

spk_0:   23:31
Yes, he's the mayor of the deputy mayor. Something like that. Some sort of mayor.

spk_1:   23:34
I'm hitting this Ellen keeps has no thanks to me. Seer Born July 1st 1956. So the movie was made 85. So he's 29. 29. 36. Flip a coin. Teases say was born 56. Okay, great moving right. Let's get back. A couple things you wrote on the list here. Uh, NFL stars. Looky Clea. Tell me why you want to talk about him.

spk_0:   23:53
Well, you know, we just talked a lot about Aaron Hernandez and other things Hernandez's family claims is that he was even though he was relatively young, it hadn't played a heck of a lot of football compared to, like, maybe a 10 year in f elevator veteran. They thought he was suffering from C T, which is a disease, and it goes into that. But it is a disease that's we think I'm going. We're not medical experts, but the theory is it's caused by repetitive head trauma. Correct concussions, Concussions look quickly. 28 years old, A probe on All Pro linebacker One of the best players in the NFL, 28

spk_1:   24:24
was in New Haven this weekend. Was okay. I didn't see him, but he was hurt

spk_0:   24:29
and he suffered several concussions during his relatively good for a short time. Getting getting out. And this is again this. I just feel like this. Well, this will start become not a surprising headline when when Andrew Luck walked away and artists were blown away. Yeah, I don't know that we should have been. We talked about at the time that Tom Brady's the World playing to their 42 even more money than you could put in Fort Knox or droop Really? Breeze about to play at 41. That's going to be the exception, and it probably should be. You know, Luke quickly. God bless him. He had some scary.

spk_1:   25:04
You know, playing quarterback is the safest thing you could do in the NFL now?

spk_0:   25:07
Well, that could be. But ask Jim McMahon about that. You know, I'm now we'll know. You're right. You're now

spk_1:   25:12
a Although what you might call it. Who was it? Took a shot for 10. It was for Tennessee Health. Did he take a shot in that game? He did. From the linebacker. There's Severinsen. Sorenson, The safety. Yeah, it was a clean hit man in a slow mode. And you saw his eyes bowls. But, you know, speaking of SETI Brian and I know this one, you'll this is, Ah, one hit close to home with you at the Walter Camp Festival this weekend. Right by the old guys come into town and a guy who's been coming there for a long time. Former Dallas Cowboy, former Pittsburgh running back. Don't intercept. Tony Dorsett was there. And you know Tony is bad. You know, I saw something with him a couple years ago where he can't drive anymore because he got he had lost. You know, he's suffering from some C. T. Ah, not a Super Bowl side of the mid fifties. He walked into that were in the trophy room on Saturday so that the way it works of the dinners that you know, six clock. But at four o'clock, they there's a trophy room over it. Aah! Over at Yale, and all the big award winners go up there. They take pictures with the the the elected officials of

spk_0:   26:17
Walter Walter Camp, sort of like a dinner for

spk_1:   26:19
It's the oldest, oldest all American team in college football, right? But through the end of the year is the 53rd dinner. So what they do is they pick an all American team. These guys show up to pick a coach of the year Player of the year, American Distinguished American Award, right? So in a lot of alumni come back. So Tony Dorsett came back and Brian. He walked some shooting video people in the room, and I looked to my left, and I'm kind of I'm recording and I'm kind of just doing a pan of the room, going right to left and all sudden, Tony Dorsett walks into the room and he looked at me. He was about 78 feet away. I had a guy with him who was kind of his companions. Guys got just his handler almost remaining assistant. Tony looked right at me and he saw the camera. He looked at me and I stopped recording. We did you because he was He had that lost looking his set and it made me sick. And it made me sick because here's a guy. Look, I don't like cowboys, but Tony Dor set him. Everyone was Tony. They're set in the backyard, Grown up one of those guys. You know what I mean? Like, if you were playing, kill the guy in the backyard or touch her tackle football, Tony Dorsett was always one of the guys that people were pretending they were. But man, he want to see in his mid fifties. As you said, Yes, and there's a couple shots. He it just bothered me so much, and I just well, the guy but correct me from wrong. I'm pretty sure he did say he wouldn't change a thing if he could do it all over.

spk_0:   27:41
I believe you said that I've read something. Actually met him several years ago. I had an event and I talked for, like, two minutes. But, um, he always was. It's weird that you say that because he was one of those guys, like sometimes you see pro football players and, like a few years passes in the port. A few panels on all that when he was one of those guys that when I saw him, probably 10 year and even 10 years ago, he looked like fit as a fiddle, like he'd still go out there and play. And it just man, it happens and it's Yeah, he says he wouldn't change a thing back in those that we know so much more now you wonder how many times he played in games. He shouldn't have played him his one of his teammate, one of his teammates. Sometimes it's the luck of the draw on your lucky or unlucky. Um, just the NFL is doing this like 100 greatest lists, and they did a thing with the quarterbacks. Greatest quarterbacks full time. He's teen. Anyone on that list note anyway, it was not, but Roger Starbuck Waas mate Roger Starbucks, on his late seventies,

spk_1:   28:34
saw him the other day at the college football thing with

spk_0:   28:36
Did you? And he admits that he suffered several concussions, probably in the double digits. He's 7/8 doing great remember Super Bowl, right? He and he should never play that, too. No, but Starbuck, I think I'm trying to paraphrase here. Basically broad. You're saying, Leo, just it was the luck of the draw. I was lucky.

spk_1:   28:55
And, you know, these these guys play. I mean, thank God that there's protocols. Now, I don't think they're doing it, but, I mean, Jimmy Johnson, your buddy, made it to the Hall of Fame

spk_0:   29:03
way much mention moaned, Yeah, thank you. By the way, we went off. We tape. Then a few hours later, we find out, Well, I'm the guy driving it like you guys don't know what you're talking about. Not putting Jimmy Johnson and afraid of like Bill Kaur. Then, like an hour later, we get the you know, if it wasn't out, it might have been less like, Oh, Jimmy Johnson's in the hole and we just assume some of the voters heard me. But Jimmy tells

spk_1:   29:23
that story about Troy Aikman, you know, and then he all still store above any testimony in the Fiesta Bowl against Penske, where they got upset on 86. Vinny Testaverde had a concussion, and Jimmy said that week he didn't practice. He should not play the worst game of his life. Threw five interceptions. And Jimmy said I should have played. Steve Walsh would've won the game. I was because Vinny Testaverde was

spk_0:   29:45
Remember that game watching that? My dad was very heavily propensity to hate Miami. Thanks. Salary cap. Peek if topless. Uh, yeah, I remember. Yeah. Okay. Sorry about that. Um, all

spk_1:   29:55
right, let's wrap that up. Anyway. It's just Listen, I started watching Aaron Hernandez thing. They talk about C t.

spk_0:   30:01
And then you understand? If you mean if you just hear what you've been talking about. 20 door set. You know why you keep Leah 28. Just made with the best and decisions that young man's ever good for him. A lot of money to find something else that makes you happy. You stand the game in a lot of different ways without getting you're getting your head Any more damage to help me any more damage?

spk_1:   30:20
Listen, we got one more segment to do. We're gonna talk about this baseball scandal. The big news that happened during the week involving your team is Well, we're gonna wrap up the

spk_0:   30:28
show that but before we really might. Yeah. Okay. Well, right. Well,

spk_1:   30:31
we gotta localize the story.

spk_0:   30:32
I understand. Former news producer is right. All right, one more segments

spk_1:   30:36
ago, but we have one more spot to regard, right?

spk_0:   30:38
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spk_1:   31:25
go do it up. All right, so it feels kind of old cause it's been going on. I was telling you wish we would talk about this 56 days ago. The big scandal. You know, the video replay. It's affected the Red Sox. It's affected the Mets now The Astros scandal, the manager fired general manager fired basically because look, they're they're using video replayed a. Tell the players what pitches were coming. If you haven't seen that, it's all over the Internet. But yeah, when I first came out, I wasn't surprised. I guess I wantto talkto local part. First, the Red Sox had no choice, but the fire

spk_0:   31:58
they had to Alex Cora was kind of the ringleader of this, and he's a now he's now a manager. Ah, he was sort of, I guess, was part of the brains behind the operation, so to speak. Um and I didn't think Beltran was gonna get fired, but I I think Carlos Beltran had just been hired by the Mets back in November, but they sort of were forced, I think, to go ahead and do this. It would have been a distraction because we don't know. I don't think this is over. I don't think there's. I think more stuff's gonna come out. You

spk_1:   32:25
know, it's funny to just to get Beltran like, you know, once his name. So the commissioner put out a 15 page reporting their findings, you know, basically saying the Houston was guilty all over the place for using video to cheat steal signs. Eso corps was the bench coach. Red Sox. He brought some of that with him to the Red Sox were still investigating, by the way. Yeah, you know, despite what some players say that you know they didn't. Doesn't nothing wrong that there's still more about the Red Sox. But the Mets that, you know. Carlos Beltran was a player in the Astros and he had a pretty big hand in it, they say. And for the commissioner of baseball, he was the only player named. That

spk_0:   32:57
kind of bothered me. Well, you know why that is, because the manager nobody's done. Nobody's nobody's coming out looking like looking covered in glory here. Nobody the commissioner out. Certainly not the Astros. Maybe the only I can throw a little bit the bone to and say he did The right thing was the Astros owner came out literally an hour after this report was public and fired the manager in the general manager. That's great. The commission Beltran was named because he's not. He was. He's no longer an active player. The commissioner hasn't had that has so far, hasn't had the guts to punish any of these players. It's the players doing this. It's the players cheating. It's the players who hurting the other players because they're the ones you know that Know what pitch is coming and no, no, the situation. They're the ones benefiting from the cheating. And they can now, and they're getting off light. Why aren't they suspended? I don't give a damn. If they have, that means the whole 40 man roster is suspended, and Houston has to figure out a way to feel the team. Who cares? That's what's supposed to happen. This look, there's always been cheating in baseball. There's always besides stealing or guys form with you on a spit ball or something like that. This is not that, Okay, this is this is a huge thing. This is like This is a Watergate okay, wth the This is all organized with technology and video and all this stuff and great, you got rid of the the guy's in management that we're doing it. That's great. But it's ridiculous that the Astros get to take that. Some of these Astros get to take the field. And if I was a pitcher, I forget the picture. That's that said it. Buddy Myers. Not Mike Fires, but we can talk about him, too. He might. Fire is just a guy who, baby, What's the blower? He was the whistle blower After he left the Astros, he said that this is what they're doing. But one of the pictures who was outraged by this? It's something that long. The fact that being able to throw a baseball really hard has its advantages. If I was Jose lt if I if I was a pitcher, I put it where I would put these guys on their rear end every damn time

spk_1:   34:51
they come out. That's exactly what I

spk_0:   34:53
want to throw me out of the game. Throw me out of the game. I don't give a damn. Okay, if you're not gonna do something about it. I'm gonna do some

spk_1:   34:58
baseball. Need to start policing itself to So my mom. It's funny, I always say, whenever I'm doing a sportscast, always say I want to make it shares people out there. It's not about hits, runs and errors and all that. It's something my mom would understand or your mom would understand

spk_0:   35:10
when my mom was a good really door gambling. Yeah, that's true. Just getting Mom always called me about the line, but she's asking

spk_1:   35:16
about taste like So what is the deal? What do you think about that? And I said to her, Baseball needs to start policing itself now. You know what? During the steroid era, almost guys knew about it. But here's a thing like, you know, I said to my mom, Nolan Ryan, Bob Gibson, You're trying to steal her sign. You're taking one in the year.

spk_0:   35:30
Gonna take one the year. Yeah, and that needs to start again. Bob, all these tough

spk_1:   35:34
guys out there with 300 miles an hour. If you think If you hear that you hear someone hitting a can or whistling hit a guy. Yeah, and the umpires need the baseball needs to talk to the umpires. No more throwing someone out or warning someone right away. I don't care who's here. Who's asking? Start. Let them start policing the game again. Let them take care. It's like fighting and hockey. Look, everyone wants to get rid of it, and I understand both sides. But the reason there's fighting it because it helps police thegame. So everyone's not trying to take out the best player. You try to do that, we're going to send out our enforcer and he's gonna kick the shit.

spk_0:   36:07
Yeah, but this is what baseball baseball always gets this wrong, do they not? They never are proactive. There's always until someone comes out out to learn bears. You could say this is somewhat proactive because the commissioner got out in front of it. Assumes the report was complete. You know, they did ignore the afflicted, didn't report. The athletic website did this report several back in the fall and the commissioner's office looked into it and okay, he came out right away. He leveled the Astros of heavy fines, draft picks and suspended their manager in general manager. That's great, but again called Fear Plant taking on the players association, which is very possible fear of not knowing what they would do if they suspended multiple players. I don't think he didn't do enough, you know, it's the same thing. Steroids. We have writers now that won't put certain players in the whole fan because that it's steroids. 20 years ago, everybody knew they were doing steroids and they were fine with it. But now we want we want to punish these guys 20 years later. No, no, no, no. They will live. You can't trust him now.

spk_1:   37:02
You can't have both ways. No, and I I totally agree. I you know, it's just wish baseball would like. It took the Mike fires type. And the other thing Mike fires thing. So guy, he's the whistleblower. And can Jessica Mendoza pipe down? By the way, she works for the Mets, and she works for ESPN, which you may not be working for either. Now,

spk_0:   37:18
I wouldn't know. First of all, can I be crystal medium white Christmas what they're like? But I have to hear from Jessica Mendoza. So I have to you from just why do I need to hear from Jessica Mendoza? Just like it is a commissioner. I can from players water we need. Why do we need her opinion on

spk_1:   37:31
this? She works for ESPN, is a son of a baseball analyst, decorated former softball player. Does a great job broadcasting whatever, but she also has a job with the Mets. And she basically came out and said she didn't like the way Mike fires one about it. It didn't sit well with her.

spk_0:   37:43
Who cares how it sat with? Yeah, he helped change the game. You know what? And so did Ken Caminiti. You know, I needed those guys again. I'm gonna sound like the old guy here, but like Jessica Mendoza sounds like if she was around in 1972 should be going Which this deep throat guy meeting with reporters in the middle in these in these garages in the two o'clock in the morning, trying to ruin the president. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. He's not the bad guy here. Mike Fires Isn't the bad guy the cheaters, the guy banging on the trash cans. And

spk_1:   38:08
the other thing, too, of the speaking of cheating. Listen, it could be interpreted 1,000,000 ways, But, man watching Al to ve after hit that homer enough for all this Chapman coming home and saying Don't rip my jersey.

spk_0:   38:17
I don't believe that for a minute that I believe I

spk_1:   38:19
think he was wearing so there's no regulation. He was wearing a buzzer under his uniform, so they're buzzing him like basically telling him a fast bowler.

spk_0:   38:26
But I'm not gonna go in here and, you know, say that I might accuse the guy of anything, but I'm just saying it looks really suspicious as hell because, you know, not just having your buzzer, your jersey ripped off. He just hit a home run to win the pennant. And this is thinking about this. Isn't 1976 of the fans storm the field and Chris Chambliss has to run in because the attack those guys have, like, everybody stays off the field with the players. They stay on that field for like, 20 minutes dancing around. Unless he really had to pee really badly. Why's he running in the prop house, passed all his teammates and coming back out with that jersey off? I mean, it might be a little conspiracy theory here, but I agree with you 100% looks a little silly to Mae. It's that he

spk_1:   39:04
was He was a some something this weekend. I don't know if he was asked. He was asked about a body basic said, Look, everything's gonna be fine. Everything's gonna be fine. We're gonna be back in the world, Siris. You know what you

spk_0:   39:13
should just say? Like, just just talk to my lawyer because you might need one soon. It just makes bad. And so now we get So the Mets gonna hire for a manager. We live through this again now. I guess they didn't talk

spk_1:   39:22
to Dusty Baker. They didn't talk

spk_0:   39:24
to Buck Showalter. Who else? It intact? Well, we had a running gag back in the fall like it's like week. Now. It's like we sweat of us. They haven't harder manager. It's weeks 12. They haven't harder manager, so I don't know the hot. So I guess now I have to wonder if they're gonna hire a manager between before spring training actually starts.

spk_1:   39:40
So they're going to spend a couple book, but they're not talking to anyone. It's gonna be somewhat in house.

spk_0:   39:44
Probably will be. I don't really care. I think I don't know. I don't care. Keith Hernandez. I know because I want Keith Hernandez in the booth where he belongs. Entertaining us baseball fans less. Jessica knows that meant more Keith Hernandez, but I I was. I'm wildly entertained by this. As much as I sit here and talk about like, it's ridiculous and they should throw the book at these guys. I find it wildly entertaining. It

spk_1:   40:07
is every day you're waiting for something new to break. It's like a slow drip, and I think more is coming out. You put on the list of the Yankee fans being re Listen, I was angry, but you know, the anti religious thing where they vacate, you know, championship. Yeah, that you're not gonna do that in baseball. That was another question my mom said to me, Well, can't they take the world Siris away? I said, it can't. Well, they can't. You know. What's it gonna do?

spk_0:   40:25
What's gonna happen like they didn't win the world. Just take the banner down the asterisk. You know, it's just it's you want to stop with that.

spk_1:   40:33
It sounds good, but it's not gonna happen. But yeah, Would I be pissed if I was a player and thinking out to have a new, uh, knew that we're all this Chapman, who throws 100 miles an hour, is gonna throw a breaking ball to me. And I knew was coming a lot easier to hit if you know what's coming.

spk_0:   40:44
Yeah, And again, this stuff happens all the time, and you leave it, Say, like of you guys, if you got a guy standing on second base and the pictures tipping pitches or he's figured it out, tell that salt, that's fair game. Dude, that's you for not being careful. Enough of your signs being lazy. Yeah, but this is like, this is some covert operation stuff. This is Cold War. Um, it'll be fun at Jensen's report in, like, 23 days. And speaking of old movies, we can we can we can We can safely assume it'll be like the call, like, bang the can. Slowly, when they eventually do do the 30 for 30 or something like

spk_1:   41:14
that. Yes. Okay. Something along the trash you put a list of birthdays on here is a couple you want to talk about.

spk_0:   41:21
Oh, my goodness. Do I ever enough? Um, yeah. for anyone is 98. Batty wife. Betty White is 98. She's still alive? Yeah, she looks great, doesn't she? Look a day over 94? Um, yes. It'll make you feel Susanna Hoffs of the Bangles. Who? I hate that walk like Egyptian song so much and my kids still hear it. I thought you eternal flame guy. Yeah, I could look the slow numbers. I hate that. I just mentioned that I can't remember what I had for lunch today, but I know James Earl Jones, voice of Darth Vader and one of the most overrated baseball movies of all time Get out of the worst base we like to naturally, like a natural

spk_1:   41:57
that's on Netflix not to. We're watching part of that this weekend.

spk_0:   42:00
Really? Yes. So, basically, this weekend, you watched. Ah, three part documentary about a serial killing football player. Got serial killer multiple. He killed multiple people to six hours of football, six hours of football and a 36 year old Robert Redford baseball movie. And I worked both days. Cool. But you know what? I know you put the effort here. Quality shows and shala t and Michelle Obama turned 50 66 1 Yeah. I want to give a shout out to my former in your current colleague, John Pearson, turning a big 50 today.

spk_1:   42:28
So John turned 50. And I'm gonna drop something on social media later tonight. Maybe you can put it on ours as well. Of a famous coach who wishes John Happy Birthday. It'll be in the 10 o'clock in the 11 o'clock news tonight as we take this.

spk_0:   42:41
I don't know if I don't blow it like guests, right? And you want to surprise edit this part out. But was it rich Kotite know was not rich Stump Mitchell's not know. Stump Merrill Terry Terry Collins Here comes thinking Vast is in the jackpot. And by the

spk_1:   42:53
way, speaking of ah, what's his name there on Tuesday night when rivers jersey off your body has no

spk_0:   42:58
problem. You think you know Pete Allowance is wearing a wire at me and Pete Alonso. Listen, wait. I may come up. Yeah, you might hit 63 home dad bod hold my God.

spk_1:   43:08
Someone tweeted that the other day is showing him ripper. Sure.

spk_0:   43:10
Old school country. Strong man. That's old school baseball players believe when you go when you go out there in

spk_1:   43:16
the world by the three weeks, All right, so we'll reason a podcast, get a couple of podcasting before that. Next week we have, we'll

spk_0:   43:23
probably Oh, really? Pro Bowl. Yeah, we'll have

spk_1:   43:27
to come up with some ideas, folks. We've got good stuff. We will talk

spk_0:   43:30
about Booth. You're even harder. I always kind of like the stuff cause you go to a Super Bowl party. Usually there's one Schmo there that wants to indulge in every prop bet. Like maybe we're looking at some big prop bet guy. I'll buy some squares. I just bought, like, $20 with the squares.

spk_1:   43:43
Yeah, I got to get on that. A couple men In some sad news. Pearson won the fantasy football pool at work and I am too behind in the pickem with one game to play. So I will know. And Seeley get the math. Yes, I will not win. I'm busy. Weekend win. I was two. And so on Sunday up last week I was two and two. So that's what killed

spk_0:   44:04
me. I think it was the same to you, or I was three and one. I don't remember, But we will do a Super Bowl. We'll have

spk_1:   44:08
a Super Bowl pick. Uh, talk about other things happening next week. I don't know what yet, but we'll get to it.

spk_0:   44:14
Although the stuff something will happen, something else will break. And we should probably mention we don't even date yet. We're kicking it around. But after the Super Bowl, little bit of a dry time in sports and we'll get a guest list. Maybe we'll get a guest. But we also a little special podcast coming in a few weeks. Okay? So yeah,

spk_1:   44:31
I'm looking forward to some for us again. We take this on a Monday night, it'll drop whenever you get around to

spk_0:   44:37
dropping it. Yeah, I'll have it up. I'll drop it by tomorrow morning. Probably later tonight. If I don't fall asleep, I'm getting old.

spk_1:   44:42
Look for it on the social media.

spk_0:   44:44
Yeah, Apple apple. But what do we do? The apple music? Yes. Saying think stitcher stitcher. All that good stuff. Hot I tunes.

spk_1:   44:52
I'm gonna go get some more

spk_0:   44:53
cough drops. We gotta wrap soundcloud. We gotta get off the air. Get off the air, But weak. 2022 20 so next won't be 21. Beautiful. All right,

spk_1:   45:02
we got Super Bowl coming up in two weeks. We're gonna let this all Marigny make our picks next week. Throw in the slow cooker for a little bit. Will be other news. Maybe another baseball scandal will hire a

spk_0:   45:11
manager. You know, maybe there's a possibility that between now and next week, the Mets could hire and then find a way of pick out a reason I fire the next manager. You're not gonna get him in stories any. Where is the good stuff? It's the E D B C. Podcast Week 20 in the books. Thanks so much for listening. Thanks to all of our great sponsors, we gotta add a couple more. Yes. Gonna work on that on feel free. They contact us mobile self tattoos, whatever you walking billboards. All right.

spk_1:   45:39
That'll do it for this week. We'll see again next week. Brian. Sick by CIA