Pop 'n' Jay

E59 - Three Points of Contact

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On Ladders and Life!

From reading OSHA safety regulations to insulting moral relativists, this philosophy sesh with Pop is a great way to spend a half hour. In analogizing the three points of contact on a ladder to our own preparedness for all life throws at us, Pop gives us all lots to consider here as we steer our ships to our ultimate destination.