S5, E212 - Should AI Have a Role in the Legislative Chamber?

Should AI have a role in the legislative chamber? Arizona State Representative Alexander Kolodin says "yes," leading to a groundbreaking law crafted by ChatGPT. I'm Cameron Ivey, and I’ll dissect the story behind this innovative bill addressing deepfakes in elections, made with AI assistance and causing ripples in the privacy community.

This isn't just another political maneuver; it's a bold step toward a future where AI and lawmakers collaborate to shape regulations. Join me as we delve into the delicate balance of protecting free speech while curbing AI-generated misinformation. We'll explore Kolodin's approach, which includes measures for authenticating deepfakes through judicial channels, while also preserving the realms of comedy and satire.

This legislation aims to control narratives and enhance the efficiency and effectiveness of AI-assisted lawmaking. Our discussion will transcend privacy, touching on the essence of truth in the digital age. Tune in, share your thoughts, and let's unpack this futuristic topic together. Love and privacy to all—Cameron Ivey 

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:45

All righty then. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode of Privacy, please. I am your host, cameron Ivey, and my goodness do I have some juicy, juicy, juicy money, money, money, juicy, ju-ju-ju-ju-juicy Money, money, money, Money. You know what I'm saying, but, seriously, I got some juicy news. If you haven't heard yet, we're going to go ahead and dig into this. But first I must say this is Rumor. Has it in Privacy? And this one's not so much of a rumor. Rumor has it in privacy and this one's not so much of a rumor. But I am so interested to hear what everybody else in the industry is thinking about this. So, without further ado, let's dig in.

Speaker 1: 1:41

Yes, arizona Lawmaker uses ChatGPT to define deep fakes and new legislation. Let's sit for a second. You heard that right. You heard that right In a pioneering move Arizona State Representative Alexander Kaludin. Arizona state representative alexander colluden I think I said that right leverage the power of artificial intelligence to craft a new law regulating deep fakes in elections. Colluden turned to chat gpt an ai chatbot we all know to define digital impersonation. In his bill, kaludin, a Republican, admitted that he struggled with the technology jargon necessary for the legislation. I thought let me just ask the expert. He said the chatbot's definition closely mirrors the language in the final bill.

Speaker 1: 2:44

Kaludin's proposal received unanimous support in both legislative chambers and was recently signed into law by the Democratic governor. The legislation offers candidates or residents in Arizona a judicial process to verify the authenticity of suspected deepfakes, thus providing a way to counter AI-driven misinformation. How do we know that this chat GPT generated bill wasn't misinformed or misinformation? How do we know that? Do we check with chat GPT? On his chat GPT and I quote, I am by no means a computer scientist Kluden explained I needed to ensure the definition was accurate and comprehensive. Chatgpt provided the baseline and I added protections for human rights and exclusions for comedy, satire and artistic expression. Kluden has found ChatGPT useful in other legislative tasks helping draft amendments and saving time. Well gosh, that's the first time I've ever heard that line before. I lost my train of thought. Where am I? Hello, hello. He tweeted that in a response to an article about his use of the AI in his legislation.

Speaker 1: 4:17

While the federal government has yet to regulate AI in elections, many states are taking action. Kaludin's bill offers a unique approach by allowing courts to determine the truthfulness of deepfakes rather than outing or outright banning them. This method aims to balance free speech rights while addressing the misuse of technology, the misuse of technology. The misuse of technology, the misuse of techno. Sorry, the bill includes specific provisions for removing deepfakes that depict sexual acts or nudity, particularly if the person is not a public figure and the publisher knew the content was false. Unlike other states requiring disclaimers on AI-generated content, gluden's bill provides flexibility. If a publisher clearly indicates that the content is a deepfake, legal action may not be necessary. Kluden believes mandatory disclaimers could interfere with the message's impact or humor.

Speaker 1: 5:25

Kluden hopes Arizona's legislation will serve as a model for other states. He appreciates the role of deep fakes in political discourse, but emphasizes the need for responsible use. When politicians regulate speech, it's like a fox guarding the hen house, he noted. I hope other state legislators adopt a similar approach. End, end quote. Oh Listen, I'm all for using ChatGPT to save time, give you structure and certain things and ideas and using that.

Speaker 1: 6:05

This is interesting, the honesty. I can get behind someone who's honest about something like this. But then, on the other hand, this thing was passed already. This law was passed and it was basically generated by artificial intelligence. So my emotions are very mixed here. I'm not a very political person, but I am interested in the privacy community and your thoughts Because I know this is going to be a hot topic. So chime in in the comments. Let's go, let me hear it, let's debate, let's talk. I love you all. I don't know I froze up there for a second. Thanks so much for tuning in. If you're listening from the podcast, send in your comments, go on social media, linkedin, follow me, whatever you need to. Let's chime in and debate about this, because I don't know, this is crazy. It seems crazy, right, or am I crazy? I don't know. It's very interesting, anyways, cameron Ivey, over and out.