Rock Solid Families

Who Are You Mentoring? Ep 302

Rock Solid Families Season 6 Episode 302

Recently, Merrill and Linda saw the movie, The Forge.  Without spoiling the movie for you, we would highly recommend it!  The movie brings about the topic of mentoring and why it is so important.  

Seldom can we learn everything from a book or even a classroom.  We often learn best from the wisdom of those that take a special interest in us and are willing to poor into our growth.  This may be parent, but just as likely it is a coach, teacher, or family friend.  It is someone that  has seen something in you that they  value and want to help you become the best version of yourself.  

Mentoring is nothing new to mankind.  In fact, it has been one of the primary ways that valuable information and skills have been passed from one generation to the next.  However, in the past decade, mentoring has fallen out of practice to some degree.  Young people have not been as active to seek mentors as now they are able to answer many questions through their internet or social media outlets.  The problem with this is that these answers are often of a secular view.  

Today's show will challenge you to find someone to mentor you as well as you finding someone to mentor.  Usually this is an older person mentoring you with their life wisdom and you mentoring a younger person with your life wisdom.  It is often said that Paul had his Barnabas and his Timothy.  Barnabas poured into Paul, while Paul poured into Timothy. 

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Speaker 1:

Welcome to the Rock Solid Families podcast. I am Linda Hutchinson here with my husband Merle. How are you, babe?

Speaker 2:

I'm doing well, looking forward to our topic today.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, for sure, we got a lot to talk about to have other adults in their life that are speaking into their life and speaking truth into their life, and so it kind of is on the coattails of a movie we just saw called the Forge, and it's at the theaters, and so if you're listening to this in real time, then we highly encourage you to either find it in the theaters or maybe on video. By the time you watch it, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, I mean, this is kind of a well in the movie it's directed towards males, teen boys up into adulthood. But really, hon, we could. This is for females, males, this is all about that whole idea. Like there's, we have three generations here, right, you got the older generation, you got the parent generation, and then you got the kid generation. And which one's most important? Well, that's a stupid question, right?

Speaker 2:

They're all important because they weave into each other and you know we've gotten. There's some isolation now, right Like where kids don't always want to even be involved with grandma and grandpa. I remember that, I mean I do remember as a late teen like I was too busy. I was too cool.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

I had, I wanted to be with my friends, and I kind of remember that and um. So at that point you kind of start to close the window on maybe some opportunity, um to be mentored but it also depends on the relationship that you had with your grandparents. You had a great, great relationship with your grandparents. I did, and even as an adult.

Speaker 1:

I remember going down, driving down in college playing cards with my grandpa on a warm summer night on his covered porch, and you know, it was just something that we did.

Speaker 1:

But again, like you said, hon, we are living in this world of isolation where our kids are going into their room and shutting their door and they're really being mentored by social media or YouTube or the Internet, and so we really this movie really brought home a lot of emotions. Good thing they were passing out tissues, because it was definitely full of emotion, as we are really parenting through those teenage years where they're pulling away and wanting more independence, and so the importance of mentoring. You know, I had someone tell me a long time ago we all need a Paul in our life and we all need a Timothy, we all need someone that's pouring into us and we all need someone that we're pouring into. And so I really, as you're listening to this podcast today, I really want you to be thinking about that. Like, do you have those in your life? Do your children have those in your life? Do your children?

Speaker 1:

have those in your life. One of the coolest questions we asked our teenage, young adult sons was if you couldn't come to mom and dad with something, who would you go to? And to hear their names that they mentioned was so comforting to me, because they were people. They were men in their lives that we had put in their lives, that I trusted in, and so I was so thankful for those men that had poured into our sons so much so that they felt safe to go to those people.

Speaker 2:

They were strong dads.

Speaker 1:

They were strong dads.

Speaker 2:

They were strong dads and they were just men of integrity and they were able to speak. Well, here's the silly thing, right? They probably said 99% of what we were saying. Just like you know, the coach can say something to their athlete that mom or dad were saying for years, but it clicks with them right.

Speaker 2:

So, and I think at that point it's not about the pride of whether you got the message across to your kid. It's about did we get a message across to our kids so that they can be more prepared to move on.

Speaker 1:

Remember it says it takes a village to raise a child.

Speaker 2:

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Speaker 1:

Yeah, so a little bit about the background of the Forge. It's one of the Kendrick Brother movies. If you've seen War Room or Courageous or Facing the Giants Overcomer. There were so many of those good ones that were out, and so this is another movie written and produced and directed by the Kendrick Brothers, and it's a story that revolves around a young adult boy. I think he's 19,.

Speaker 1:

Isaiah he just got out of high school and he finds himself really in a crossroads and he was spending a lot of time playing video games and really wasn't even looking for a job and he was being raised by a single mom and there was kind of some head-butting. And so if you're out there and you're a parent that's head-butting with a teenager, this movie is for you and really to bring your children, especially those teenage boys, young adult boys, preteen boys such an important movie and teens in general really.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, when you're a teen, especially when they're starting to kick back a little bit, which not all of them do, right I mean, but many of them will because they're.

Speaker 2:

As I've said many times before, there's not the only difference between a three-year-old and a 16-year-old, it's three and a half feet and because they're really wanting to discover their world, they're really wanting to spread their wings, and it's really becomes one of the more narcissistic times in our life. We all experience that, like well, what about me? That's like when I told you I didn't want to go visit my grandparents as much because, hey, I was more important I of grandparents as much because, hey, I was more important, I had things to do. And so, um, some things in the movie hunt that I thought just were interesting is there was not a dad. And there was, there was obviously there's always a dad, but there wasn't a dad active in his life.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, okay, which you see a lot through your work and you saw a mom who was working and trying to raise her child and trying to provide Okay, and that nurturing was really really good for many years until it wasn't right. And so all of a sudden this young boy of hers starts to kind of get his testosterone surges and he wants to become alpha and she's kind of at her wits ends with him you know.

Speaker 2:

And then there's I think there was something that was really neat, and this goes back to the church. The reason for the church even though she was struggling in the house, she had a lot of resources, she had church resources, she had she had the prayer warriors right, she had claire right.

Speaker 2:

So rather than her just throwing up her hands, you know she would take the problem to good, reliable people right, and not necessarily people who would tell her exactly what she wanted to hear like this you know, when you complain about your kid, there's many parents who'd be like yeah, you know what if my kid did that you know.

Speaker 1:

But to actually push back a little bit to help her, yeah, and so she had that supportive environment from her church family, her prayer warriors. And so she had that supportive environment from her church family, her prayer warriors. And then, all of a sudden, isaiah finds himself in a relationship with a mentor, a boss. His name was Joshua and he created this safe and nurturing space. But he was still honest, right, he held him accountable, so that he wasn't feeling Isaiah, wasn't feeling shame, but he was being convicted like, oh, I'm not really doing what I was supposed to be doing right. And so there was a guiding hand, there was a supportive environment, there was this role model and, by the way, it was African-American young men.

Speaker 1:

And so this role model is a strong, influential, successful African-American man. Right Joshua was, and so that was really cool to see that catalyst for change for Isaiah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Well, hon, let's. So let's start to roll this out of the movie and into more real life what we actually see in our office and what we see out there in the community.

Speaker 2:

You know, guys, it's this is no secret Our nation is experiencing an epidemic of teens, both the male and the female, that are lacking strong leadership in their life, whether the parent or parents aren't there, or whether the kids are just kind of refusing to be involved. Either way, like we use the word before that isolation is happening, and so this is at epidemic level and I think you have to really understand that and hunt. It's something that you know, you were the, and the authority figure has changed from the parent to now YouTube or Google or TikTok. Right, like they used to say mom, what do you think about this? Or dad, what do you think about this? No reason to do that. Now we can Google it, and so, right away, your authority has not been diminished, it's been eliminated.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, our 16-year-old really has told us before, in all seriousness, that he could quit school and become a millionaire because he saw it on YouTube. I mean, this is no lie. And so in his mind he doesn't need high school, he doesn't need a diploma, because he has seen somebody who has done it without it and so in his mind that's the answer, and so it's. It's sad, it's scary what they're getting their information from and you know, we've been told many times before we don't know how to parent teenagers and it's really funny.

Speaker 1:

I'm like well where are you learning it from other 60 year old boys Like that's a great place to go Right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I think it's important to don't get too caught up on blaming your team.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I mean we want to do that, Right, but but they are kind of are where they are and they're living in the environment, in the world that they're in, and so it all makes sense to them.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like it our teen is I mean he's 100 convinced that the way he's thinking through things is, is right, yeah, okay, yeah and so he doesn't quite have the wisdom to look down the road to say, okay, well, based off of what you're doing right now, if I went out five years or 10 years, you know there's no guarantees, but here's the track that I see it leading you to, and they you know they can't see that because they haven't walked down that trail. So that speaks to the importance that there's. We're never going to not need mentors or good leadership.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so statistics tell us that there's nearly 30% of teens that lack a constant combination of mom and dad in the home, and so even the 70% that do have mom and dad in the home, you know, they're not being mentored the way they were even just a generation ago. Things have changed? In what ways? Like, even if you have mom and dad in the home, what is looking different?

Speaker 2:

Well, we've said this many times because the whole home dynamic is different, even if we have mom and dad in the home. What is looking different? Well, we've said this many times because the whole home dynamic is different. Even if we have mom and dad in the home and we're using the phrase in the home meaning they're both married, biological mom and dad most of the time we're seeing both mom and dad are working, and so we see even young kids third, fourth, fifth grade that are fending for themselves at a very young age for a portion of the time, and by the time we are getting to the middle school ages and to the high school ages, they're fending for themselves a lot, and so this whole thing called mealtime, this mealtime, has gone bye-bye. And so it's now, you know, go get the TV dinner, throw it in the microwave and just go sit down in front of the TV or go, you know scroll through your phone and so those that mealtime hunt.

Speaker 2:

That is where mentoring comes. We have to be careful not to turn it into the nagging beat down, but to actually say, hey, how are you guys doing what's going on? And? And that when they can drop their guard because they're comfortable, right, we always break bread. Breaking bread is one way that you can ease the tensions of people and then have good conversation, and so the mealtime is critical, and that's gone bye-bye in many many homes.

Speaker 1:

Well, and it's not just because mom and dad are both working, it's also because we have overscheduled our family, where we are running in different directions to go to practices or games or workouts, and so we literally are eating Wendy's through the drive-thru and so we're not really spending the time around the table. So that's really the breakdown of mentoring has occurred. Because we're not home, we're not really kind of in that unscheduled zone and we also aren't really making church or faith a priority either. Where God and His Word are important Prayer and worship you know we've not prioritized that and a whole new set of mentors there.

Speaker 2:

right, that's what you were talking about before. Like our older boys had connection of guys outside of me.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they still do, as a matter of fact, when they come in town. It's so cool because they see all of those men now who you know used to be their you know young adult mentors. Now they're old, gray haired. You know, granddad, I did not say that, but you know I'm just decrepit. No, anyway, yeah.

Speaker 2:

And have you ever heard the story that this is a connection, and I think this speaks to the biology of of animals which we are of like it or not and they're the story about the male elephants.

Speaker 1:

No, no, I was, I was watching zootopia the other day with the grandkids. This is not a joke, no, no, this is a true story.

Speaker 2:

Um, so this story's actually been around. But I was just recently reminded an article in the bbc by lucy fre. I read it I was like, oh yeah, I remember that entire story. But to kind of paraphrase the whole thing, they were going to introduce elephants, a population of elephants, into a new part of Africa that had pretty much they'd gone extinct in that area. And so they just went around and they, they got all these young bulls right and so like 15 years or younger, which is juvenile that's young okay, and the reason why they didn't take the male bulls is because they were just so big.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And it was harder to transport them. So I mean the mature male bulls. So they took these young juveniles and they shipped them all over to this new part of Africa and they just let them go right and thought, well, they'll, they'll, that'll be great, they'll start repopulating. And within just weeks they started to see something that they just kind of blew their mind. They were finding dead rhinoceroses, which are rhinos a pretty tough animal, right. Not too many things can go after a rhino. Here, these L. They came to find out these elephants were surrounding rhinos and they were destroying them. They were just gorging, fighting them, destroying them, and they started running this rampage over the village areas and the rhinos. They had 50 dead rhinos where finally they're like we got to do something.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so I'm trying to connect the elephants with the men.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, okay, I'm going to get there. So they thought like okay, nobody here is establishing alpha, alpha male, okay, they're all in their minds Like teenage boys. They're all thinking they're alpha males. Okay, and so one of the biologists said we need one of the big old boys here, the big old bull elephant.

Speaker 1:

Oh, a mentor.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and so they went back and they brought six mature bull elephants in, so these were like 40 year old elephants. Okay, brought them into the same area and within days those young bulls came in contact with the mature old bulls and the old bulls, of course, put the hammer down and right away hierarchy of authority was established and all of the rampaging of those young bulls immediately stopped.

Speaker 1:

Wow.

Speaker 2:

Because the old bulls kept them in check. And so it just speaks like when we see gangs right, when we see young, and this can be girls too, but I mean, this is far, far more prevalent in the male population because testosterone is surging and the brain does things that are just out there getting wild.

Speaker 2:

And so, guys, more than ever, we need strong, authoritative, not authoritarian authoritative males that can lean into a kid and go, hey, come on, this is how we do things, not the way you're doing. So, even in the animal world, the animal kingdom world, it holds true.

Speaker 1:

Wow, I was wondering how you're going to compare elephants with team mentors.

Speaker 1:

But that is so true. I mean, this reminds me Hunter, the season of parenting that we talk about and before in other episodes, season three, which is the 13 to 21, give or take a couple years, where this is the mentoring season, where we're supposed to kind of step back a little bit and give them some chance to develop their wings, to fly right, and this is where parents and parent figures kind of come alongside teens and allow them to make mistakes and provide mentoring to help them through it. They don't rescue or abandon them, though right, they stay in the scene, but they support, they kind of help with that support and that coaching in season three yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

So I mean as we go through and start giving, so like here's some words of encouragement and advice you know, hun one of the things I think we have to do is just our culture.

Speaker 2:

We've got to stop lying to ourself. We've got to stop lying to say that a single mom can raise a kid, raise kids with no problem, or a a single dad, or you know like. We have to stop lying and we have to say we need mom, dad, we need male figure, female figure, like stop the lie, stop trying to recreate biology and let's see what biology really does, just like the elephants, right, like let's see how it really works. And stop this lie, as if we think we're smarter than nature.

Speaker 1:

And it doesn't have to be blood, I mean, these can be adult figures, parent figures.

Speaker 1:

And I remember when we had moved to a different church, I was on staff at a different church and it was kind of in the west side of Cincinnati kind of area, and we then, months later, adopted our three youngest kids and they were 11, 10, and 7. And we started to realize they're making friends and they're meeting other adults, but these adults live on the other side of Cincinnati and so to connect with them and be mentored by them they weren't in their schools, they weren't their coaches, they weren't going to see them through the week. And so what we intentionally did when I came off staff and we started Rock Solid Families is we moved back into the Southeast Indiana area for our church home so that we could get back into a community of adults and couples and families and kids and mentors that our kids would see. They were coaches, they were the bus driver, their kids were in the stands with them, and so this is the chance that they could have that relationship with other adults besides us.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, I mean, I think that's just a super valuable point and I also think that, as you are coming into challenging times with your teens, that you are not too old to be mentored yourself as a parent.

Speaker 2:

You know, like we have to realize that there's somebody that has stepped before us and has this thing called wisdom. It doesn't mean they have all the answers, it means they have insight. Okay, and so letting your prideful way down, just kind of surrendering and being able to look at somebody and either seeking professional help or actually, you know, confiding in a friend and say you know, this kid's wearing me out.

Speaker 2:

Like you know, that was one of the things that you saw in the movie the Forge, like this the mom's, like he's wearing me out, you know. And so speaking and grabbing some mentorship, no matter your age, so that you can do better, so that you can win right and ultimately your kid wins. So don't. Not only do I not want my kid isolated, but I want to avoid isolating myself as well.

Speaker 1:

That's so true, and that's what I was talking about at the top of the show. Like we all need a Paul, and if you're not, familiar with.

Speaker 1:

Paul's role, like he was a mentor to many, including Timothy, and so we all need a Paul in our lives that are one step ahead of us in our faith walk or in life and so, or in parenting, right and I've seasons, and so we need those mentors in our life, and then we need someone that we're pouring into right. It never stops. You know, we're getting older. I'm not going to say we're old yet we're getting older and so we need we still need those people which is hard to find, but we still need them.

Speaker 2:

Well, it goes back to the three generation thing right. Like we want to have people in our lives on all the different generations so that we can pour into and and even close relationships.

Speaker 2:

You know, not maybe like hundreds of them, but I got one or two people that are a little older than me, that are really, you know, I, they pour into me and then, of course, all the way down to the younger generation. So, and I also think that we, as we get older and I'm not good at this because I assume that it will happen but to actually become more intentional, so, in the movie.

Speaker 2:

What you saw is and we're not going to steal all the thunder out of the movie, but because of a great tragedy in the movie, Joshua has to kind of figure things out. This is the father, right, this is the older gentleman and he has to figure things out and he becomes very intentional about pouring in like he actually creates a group yeah and he has some specific ways and exercises.

Speaker 2:

say, you know, we're gonna meet weekly or bi-weekly, or we're gonna have dinner a dinner, or we're going to do an activity. So it's very intentional, so it's great to have passive friends. You say, hey Bo, hey bro, how?

Speaker 1:

you doing.

Speaker 2:

But he was intentional. I think we have to be more intentional, too, about having time together, doing activities together. I keep speaking to men because this is where this movie rings with me. Sitting around and just talking with teenage boys is just not going to work most of the time you have to do activities. Activities are important, and so our youth ministers know that that you can get a group of girls sit around. They'll chat all night, they do all-nighters, but boys want to go blow something up.

Speaker 1:

Beat somebody up.

Speaker 2:

They want to play a game they want to ski, they want to do something, and that is super, super valuable because at some point time you get tired in the activity and you can sit down and go, man, how you doing, you know, and that's where the exchange takes place.

Speaker 1:

So being intentional as a mentor is important yeah, yeah, and so hopefully this has given you a snapshot of what we're trying to say here is that there is power in numbers. It does take a village to raise a child. We're all in this together and so it's so important and it's so encouraging. You know, even there's one phrase that says we need a Paul, a Timothy, and then we need a Barnabas, who was kind of the encourager. So we need people around us who are not going to just be our gossip buddies.

Speaker 1:

We don't need somebody to gossip with, we need somebody to pray with, we need somebody to encourage us, to kind of tell us what we need to hear right, not just what we want to hear, and so those are people who are speaking the truth in love, and we all need those people, and your kids need those people, and it's got to be other people besides you, and that's what we have found. We're trying to encourage for our younger kiddos as well, and so, please, please, do that now, before a crisis occurs or your kids get too old or they don't want to have anything to do with you, or anybody else that you're trying to put in their life.

Speaker 2:

Let me put a disclaimer in here. Yeah, because I see this in our work all the time as being coaches. It doesn't work well to call up rock solid families and say hey, merle, will you be my son's mentor?

Speaker 2:

In your brain it does but, your kid has no relationship with me, right? And so teenage boys are typically going to go in there and they're going to be very cold and they're going to be really wondering what's this about? That's why, being intentional, early developing those relationships, you don't want it to have to be a very sterile environment where you're going and he's sitting in a chair I mean there's a time and a place but that shouldn't be your go-to mentor for your teenage boys and girls. We see that hon.

Speaker 2:

You see, girls that come in and they're kind of you know struggling and mom and dad think they should come in to talk to somebody. And it's like you know, man, if we just had healthy individuals in their life that had groomed them up, so to speak, in terms of a good quality relationship.

Speaker 1:

Be careful with that word grooming. Yeah, I got to be careful with that one.

Speaker 2:

But just a quality relationship that had been built over time. You get rid of the weird factor, and that's what I call it all the time. I'm like hey, mom and dad, I appreciate you want to bring your teen in here, but they're going to think I'm pretty weird and strange and the last thing I want to do is tell their friends that they're seeing some guy in an office.

Speaker 1:

So let's talk a little bit about what that could look like for me, and I want you to answer this question too. I had coaches okay, two female coaches that I had early on high school and college, who I would say were some of my greatest mentors, and they were in my life day after day, year after year, and they spoke truth into me. I remember so clearly my college coach sitting me in her office telling me that I had tenacity.

Speaker 2:

And I had no idea what that word was.

Speaker 1:

But I still remember that conversation because she was basically saying I need you, I need you to step up and be the leader, because our team needs that.

Speaker 1:

And so, man, just who is it that? I know a lot of students who are really into band or show choir, and so their teachers, their sponsors, are huge. Fccla, I know Mrs Osmond at East Central High School is a huge mentor to so many young women and men who they have gone through her program. So you have to be intentional, help your kids get into some kind of extracurricular, some kind of interest hobby, that maybe there is somebody who does it a little better right, who's a little older, that can really cheer them on, encourage them and mentor them in a way that it doesn't have to all be on you. Yeah, yeah For a boss, yeah.

Speaker 2:

For me it was. You know, my mom and dad were great, so I actually I couldn't talk to my dad about a lot of things, like anything.

Speaker 1:

Girls, girls or dating, because he would just get kind of silly. Your mom, I talked to your mom more than I talked to my mom.

Speaker 2:

My mom. She could lean into any of those subjects. But my dad was really about being a man, about standing up, about hard work, about that just doing the discipline to yourself you know, and never whining type of thing Inappropriately whining, I should say you know, so that was really good. But really I've talked before about it was my swim coach was my standout mentor and he called me out too.

Speaker 2:

Like he called me out, I was this is not bragging at all. This was he saw a leadership ability in me within that team dynamic and he pulled me aside and he said you're going to be my team captain this year, and that was as a junior you know, you're going to be. So you need to start showing these guys exactly what to do, and right away, like I mean, you know the chest puffs up and you're like cause that's the last guy I wanted to disappoint you know, so those are just important people.

Speaker 2:

Um, I love sports for that reason, because the scoreboard doesn't lie. Uh, you're always. It hurts at some point. You know whether the training or whether the win or loss it hurts, and it reflects real life, so much better than a video game.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah for sure, and so it could be a boss In the story. It's a boss, but again, it's really important to develop those relationships. Help your kids develop those relationships. Maybe even ask them after you watch this podcast or maybe go see that movie. Ask them if you couldn't come to mom and dad, who would be your top five.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

People, that adults. And I would say, by the way, if it's a guy, if it's a teen boy, ask him for men. If it's a girl, ask him for women. Just because we don't want anything to be like you mentioned grooming, like we don't want anything to be inappropriate. We want to try to keep it above reproach, and so we want to really make sure it's a healthy relationship and a positive mentoring.

Speaker 2:

Another disclaimer as you're talking, sometimes you can have them relatively close in age. So maybe you got a 17 or 18 year old and they will have a 21 year old friend. But I would be really cautious about that. I would be cautious because, like our son would say, I like this person because they're cool.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And so or fun, or they get me, or whatever, and so I would be cautious, because the 21 year old is not much removed. Okay, now, there could be a very mature 21 year old, but a mentor or somebody who's who's got some years on them, and so maybe we're talking about a 28 to 38 year old, you know, or maybe even older, but somebody who's moved through that phase of life and so. I would just caution um cause.

Speaker 2:

I know our son would really gravitate towards just a couple of years older and and I don't know that as a parent, I would quite be ready to say that's a great mentor.

Speaker 1:

So if you don't have a teenager or young adult, and if you maybe are in that position, we would love to see you reach out and say okay, who is it around me in my circle? Maybe it's an employee that works with a coworker, maybe it is a neighbor, maybe it is a relative, a nephew or a cousin, like somebody that you can take under your wings and really mentor, because we all need those people and our teenagers are really turning inward and they're isolating themselves and it's not healthy and, just like you mentioned, those young bulls like we don't want that kind of mom mentality where we're really kind of letting that testosterone fly in an unhealthy way.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's where our gangs come from, and all of that. So yeah, so, guys, hopefully, uh, this is an unpaid advertisement for the movie the forge.

Speaker 1:

We are not paid a dime.

Speaker 2:

All right, but we, it struck us and we it prompted this conversation between Linda and I, and we're also living it in our home, like many of you are, and so, uh, we would challenge you to go and seek out that movie and then start to just be more intentional and think about it. So it's a big part of just raising kids and keeping a good, solid family. Moving into the next generation.

Speaker 1:

So if this is the first time that you've tuned into the Rock Solid Families podcast, we're so glad that you did and we hope that you will connect with us. We have a huge library of years and years of podcasts that we've done on faith and family and personal wellness and fitness and so and we also Merle.

Speaker 1:

You mentioned Strong Dads Merle and Carl Andrew have another podcast called Strong Dads that this really does speak into of what you know we're trying to talk about today and that's the importance of mentorship. So please check that out. You can find that on all your podcast platforms. And if you're interested in more in what Rock Solid Families does, please check us out at rocksolidfamiliesorg.

Speaker 2:

Okay, we want to thank our sponsors. We want to thank Maxwell Construction, Casey's Outdoor Solutions and the Hoosier Ice House. So we want to thank those guys Again. Hoosier Ice House, so I want to thank those guys again. We thank you guys out there for listening and sharing the shows and, as Linda said, if we can help, you just reach out to us and so get out there and make it a great day. What else you got, babe?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, thanks for listening to the Rock Solid Families podcast. Building a stronger community, one family at a time.

Speaker 2:

Make it a great day. Rock solid families wants to thank casey's outdoor solutions for sponsoring the rock solid families podcast. Casey's has grown to be one of the largest and most unique garden centers and gift shops in the Cincinnati tri-state area. Whether you are looking to take on that next landscape project or simply add a little home decor to your house, casey's has you covered. Located at 21481 State Line Road, lawrenceburg, indiana. 821-481 State Line Road, lawrenceburg, indiana. Call them today at 812-537-3800. Let Casey's help you add beauty to your home. Rock solid families wants to thank maxwell construction for sponsoring the rock solid families podcast. For over 30 years, maxwell Construction has been a leader in turning dreams into realities Building schools, banks, restaurants and many other commercial and public facilities. Maxwell Construction has made it their priority to not just build buildings but to build into their community. So if you have any construction needs, call them at 812-537-2200.

Speaker 1:

Rock Solid Families would like to thank Hoosier Ice House for being a proud sponsor of the rock solid families podcast. In the heart of historic lawrenceburg, indiana, the ice house is at the corner of vine and high streets. The historic building evokes a feeling of comfort, with spacious indoor and outdoor dining, a large bar and comfortable dining areas. Large enough to host parties, yet intimate enough to feel like your favorite neighborhood restaurant. So thank you again for the Hoosier Ice House for sponsoring the Rock Salad Families podcast.