#098 Don't Let Your Donkey Sleep in the Tub

Ever found yourself shaking your head at the absurdity of some outdated laws? Tune in and join us as we explore the quirks of legislation, where you'll be baffled by the likes of Montana's gender-specific fishing restrictions and Connecticut's bouncing pickles. We'll even sneak in a few chuckles about pickles that could start a legal crusade, proving that the law isn't just about order—it can also be a source of endless amusement.

Our conversation ventures into the picturesque landscapes of Cork County, Ireland, where traditional aesthetics grapple with modern housing needs. We examine the concept of an "Irish cabin" and its role in this delicate balance, offering thoughts on how to preserve the charm of rural living without compromising on practical solutions. And as the strings of Shane Smith and the Saints' latest tunes resonate in the background, we dive into the connection between music, art, and the landscapes that inspire them—a trifecta of creativity.

Finally, we celebrate the thrill of art discovery, sharing tales of vintage finds and the mystery of their creators. We're calling on all artists to leave a breadcrumb trail for posterity, ensuring that their work lives on to be appreciated by future generations. So, whether you're a patron of local businesses, an art aficionado, or just someone with a taste for the unconventional, this episode promises a tapestry of discussions that connect us all. Don't miss catching these stories, no fishing license required.

LINKS

Crazy State Laws - Good Housekeeping

Cork County Council may relax rules on building log cabins as homes

Shane Smith & the Saints - The Greys Between

Artist - Marvin Cone

Artst - Mark Maggiori 

Transcript

Kristin: 0:23

Hi Erik.

Erik: 0:24

Hello how are you? Good, how are you?

Kristin: 0:26

Good, happy spring, not spring. Yeah, are we tired to talking about the weather?

Erik: 0:32

Up in the Northwoods we have no well, we have snow piles, but this is like mud. It's an extended mud season, which is pretty disappointing for the entire economy up here.

Kristin: 0:43

Yeah, it's been crazy to see how much the weather does affect businesses, and when the snowmobile trails aren't open, the lakes are not their usual way of entertaining everybody. It's it's very different.

Erik: 0:57

Yeah, the nice thing that I see and you always want to look for resilience and times like this I've been really impressed with the amount of people that even though they're not able to snowmobile they're, they'll still come up for their annual trip, still rent the house.

Erik: 1:12

And then I've even heard about people that are going around from restaurant to restaurant or bar to bar, still visiting the same places that they would go on snowmobiles, just going, you know, by car and a big group just to support the businesses that are up here. The other thing that I thought was really nice too, is people are calling and just buying gift certificates for places that they would go just to like still show the financial support. Because if you want a place like the Northwoods and all the really interesting and wonderful economy to exist up here, which is, you know, small little bars and restaurants and getaways, pulling the rug out from under the entire economy and like what brings people up to the Northwoods, you know, with the, with the weather being tough and the snow being non-existent, it's it seems like people are aware of that and they're doing what they can to help and support in their own ways.

Kristin: 2:01

Yep, and that is a great thing, and I think what people I mean. They love snowmobiling and doing those recreational activities, but really it's the being together that they love and that's why they do it. So, yeah, if they still come up and hit the restaurants and rent the cabins, then it really helps and it gives them that together time.

Kristin: 2:18

So there is always so much positive to see in even the hard times, and you know we could count all the ways that we love walking around without slipping on ice and shoveling Right and, yeah, being going outside and it hurts to breathe.

Erik: 2:33

So, yeah, it's a weird thing where, like, physically, you're more comfortable, but you also understand the challenges that it brings.

Kristin: 2:40

Yep, Yep. Speaking of challenges, I heard something on the radio the other day. We have this little vintage looking red radio in our kitchen and it's the first thing I do I've shared every morning. I turn the radio on and there's a it's kind of how I grew up listening into the radio where there's the radio host talking and you get to hear the talk radio and then you get to hear your favorite songs. And one of them brought up something the other day about weird laws they heard and this one is in Montana that women are not allowed to fish on their own. They have to have a man with them to fish and then, if you're a married woman, you can't fish on Sundays. So I looked it up and it did pull up on a lot of websites that that is still on the books. That is still a law. I bet there's a lot of people breaking the law. There's a lot of women out there breaking the law.

Erik: 3:38

Yeah, so obviously this is not a rule that was made by women most likely True it. Also you wonder why they don't instantly repeal a law like that, or if it's just too much work to leave it on the books, or there's just like this broad community of fishermen that are like this is exactly what we wanted. How are we supposed to get away? So that's it's. That's ridiculous that these things even happen. But I think there's laws like these weird, crazy, leftover, archaic laws in almost every state that are just nobody wants to take the time like. You're not going to run as a politician. I'm like we got to repeal this law that's not enforced anymore. It's just like. Obviously it's a dumb law, we're not enforcing it, but I bet there's tons more like that.

Kristin: 4:21

Tons, and you know it did get me curious and so I did look up some, and good, housekeepingcom had a whole list from different states and when you talk about ridiculous it makes the fishing one seem normal. Some of these really, oh my goodness yeah that one's just sexist and rude. But I am surprised they haven't had some, some, maybe some you know, protesting on the lawn of the Capitol like let's get holding fishing polls, you know.

Erik: 4:47

I know. I think that if we had a candidate of the presidential candidate was just running on that ticket, you probably do better right now that all women could fish where they wanted to.

Kristin: 4:56

In Alabama, it's illegal to drive blindfolded.

Erik: 5:01

Okay, that seems fair, do you?

Kristin: 5:02

think that seems fair. How often do you wish you had done?

Erik: 5:05

that Driven blindfolded? I don't know. You have to ask my wife if she thinks I'm blindfolded sometimes. Well, did you see the new speaking of that? Now they have the Google lens that crazy VR contraption. Have you seen? That just came out, a couple days ago.

Kristin: 5:18

There's been a couple new things where it's like what in the world.

Erik: 5:21

They're already showing people driving with them on so the sunglasses and. But you can have like computer screens popping up in front of you and you kind of see through it. I mean it's an interesting case. It's crazy looking, but all new technology looks goofy. But they wonder, you know, someday it'll be in your eyeglasses.

Erik: 5:37

But you can leave these pinned up boards around your house where you have like a cooking recipes right next to your stove and then a screen up where your TV would be. But you don't need it. But it's a strange and kind of surreal type of world that we keep transitioning and heading towards with all the things. But like the blindfolded driving. They're like showing people in a Tesla with a self-driving car doing work on their VR goggles. They're going to have to pass laws like you can't be. You still have to be in control of your self-driving car. Even you have to be ready for it to like give you control back. And if you're working in a virtual environment not paying attention to anything, you might as well be blindfolded.

Kristin: 6:23

Yeah, it's so many changes going on, so we'll have to have to see what happens.

Erik: 6:27

Yeah, the new laws.

Kristin: 6:28

Yeah, the new laws. Well, in Alabama it sounds like the word didn't make it to everyone in the yellow hammer state about the common phrase keep your eyes on the road, because that law prohibits driving while blindfolded. In Alaska, you can't put an animal in the back of an open vehicle. To a dog, nothing sparks more joy than the cool breeze of the open road. However, in Alaska, the back of an open vehicle is off limits unless, unless, so if you have your convertible, you can't have your dog back there unless the dog's tail wags 46 inches or higher.

Erik: 7:09

The tail wags 46 inches or higher. Oh, that's interesting.

Kristin: 7:14

I don't know if that's how they say. The dog's big enough to be in the back.

Erik: 7:16

Yeah, that's strange, and I get it. You always wonder how these rules come to fruition. Is it like?

Erik: 7:25

one of the things in business that drives me nuts is like when one time a situation happens and then people are like we need to make a rule in a policy right and bigger corporations are famous for this, but even in our small business, like we fight this, like this one thing came up, this one, whether it's a question employee has or a customer situation that we've never dealt with in 10 years.

Erik: 7:43

And then, all of a sudden, everyone's like we got to make a rule for this, and like but do we though? Because it came up one time, we could just deal with it and not think about it ever again. And if it starts coming up more and more and more, that's when you make a law, but you wonder, like blindfolded, did one guy crash into a herd of cows with his blindfold on? And they're like we got to pass a law to make this illegal because he didn't get, or can't we just make thoughtful laws, that kind of thoughtful, and laws might be tough, but the tail wagging thing, like where did that come from? Well, this will prove your point.

Kristin: 8:16

In Arizona it's illegal for a donkey to sleep in a bathtub. Oh, it should be.

Erik: 8:21

We got to crack down on that In the 1920s.

Kristin: 8:24

a local dam broke, flooding a rancher's home. The rancher's donkey had become accustomed to sleeping in the bathtub, which filled with water, and whisked him miles away. After working to rescue the animal, the town passed a law that prohibits donkeys from sleeping in bathtubs. So the flood happened in the.

Erik: 8:47

There was a donkey.

Kristin: 8:48

But did the donkey cause the flood?

Erik: 8:49

I don't think so. It couldn't. One bathtub couldn't carry a dam broke.

Kristin: 8:54

Oh, the dam broke Okay. There was a flood, and this farmer's donkey always slept in the bathtub, as they tend to do.

Erik: 9:02

Sure, of course, that's not so much flooding that the donkey had.

Kristin: 9:05

It was carried away, carried away and it took so much to rescue the donkey that they thought we better make a law about this. So the next time the dam breaks and so much donkey is in the bathtub.

Erik: 9:19

So the donkey floated away in the bathtub. He was still in the bathtub.

Kristin: 9:24

I think he left.

Erik: 9:25

I think he came out of the bathtub. Wouldn't he be out of the bathtub anyway, always normally, and still be floated away?

Kristin: 9:30

He was sleeping in it, though, I know.

Erik: 9:32

But when the flood hits, wouldn't he be better off in a bathtub? It's safer for the donkey.

Kristin: 9:39

Does a cast iron bathtub float?

Erik: 9:41

though I don't know, probably not Especially filled with a donkey, but I still don't see how that's better or worse than just being a donkey on your own, chilling, and then a flood hits and you're still carried away.

Kristin: 9:55

Well, there is one good thing, though that it is okay for the donkey to stand in the bathtub.

Erik: 9:59

Thank you, oh, that's fair you can't sleep there, Right, but that seems like an old saying. Like you know, never let your donkey sleep in the bathtub is, like you know.

Kristin: 10:09

Oh you should start saying that to people.

Erik: 10:10

You can start saying that to people like what? And you're just like exactly.

Kristin: 10:15

They've been saying it since the 20s.

Erik: 10:16

Yeah, there's just you haven't heard that old saying don't let your donkey sleep in the bathtub.

Kristin: 10:20

That might be a shirt we should make. Yeah, that's fair.

Erik: 10:24

That's kind of my motto in life now, right, yeah.

Kristin: 10:27

Well, this one too. In Arkansas, you can't honk your horn near a sandwich shop after 9 pm.

Erik: 10:34

That's fair. I mean it like it sounds more like a previous Uber type of thing, like Uber eats, where they're honking like hey, your car's here, you haven't come out yet to get your sandwich Right, so you can't honk it near a sandwich shop after 9 am.

Kristin: 10:50

After 9 pm.

Erik: 10:51

Oh, 9 pm, that makes sense.

Kristin: 10:53

Right, yeah, it's okay to honk next to a hamburger place 8.59.

Erik: 10:58

You're just laying on the horn and then just got to stop.

Kristin: 11:01

I wonder how many people try that, just to see if they get caught.

Erik: 11:05

Tons I bet.

Kristin: 11:07

In California and we don't have to go through all 50, but we'll do a couple of more fun ones. In California it's illegal to whistle for a lost canary before 7 am. Have you lost your canary before Eric?

Erik: 11:21

It's illegal to whistle for a lost canary before 7 am. Yeah, oh, okay, that's fair. I feel like I'm in not a lot of danger of breaking any of these laws and but the funny thing they say about laws is like not having knowledge of it is no excuse, right? It's like oh sorry, I was whistling for my canary. I totally forgot about this archaic law.

Kristin: 11:44

I bet there's some people out there that have neighbors that they believe they would know these laws.

Erik: 11:48

Oh, sure, yeah.

Kristin: 11:50

A lot of people I am. I'm blessed with amazing fun neighbors yeah, but some people aren't blessed with that they have neighbors that are going to be looking out the window like oh my gosh, they're whistling

Erik: 12:00

for their canary.

Kristin: 12:00

I'm calling it in.

Erik: 12:02

Again, there it goes, yep.

Kristin: 12:06

In Colorado, you'll like this one. You better pay attention to this because you have some connections in Colorado. It's illegal to keep a couch on your porch.

Erik: 12:14

That seems like a college law, right. Right have you. I mean, you go down to Madison, uw, madison on. You know what's the Mifflin Street Block Party. It's like every single college slumlord house in Madison has a couch, an old, rotten couch, on their porch. So that one I can actually see, yeah, and this one it is.

Kristin: 12:32

It says Boulder busted the University of Colorado for burning couches, causing a lot of going to effect that keeps couches and porches mutually exclusive.

Erik: 12:41

See that then again they go to. So they burned couches. It's like why wouldn't we just do a couch burning law? Nope, we're going to. You can't put on porches because there's no other way to burn a couch. It's like very strange, but they don't look. They do a couch does not look great on a a three season porch the back of your house facing the lake. We put couches there all the time, but the front porch couch where the springs are coming out, they're just old and they just haven't taken them to a dump.

Kristin: 14:02

Next to the washing machine.

Erik: 14:05

It is a rough look that's like a semi reasonable zoning on.

Kristin: 14:09

Well, and I keep thinking, I'm going to say, okay, everybody can go read the rest at goodhousekeepingcom, and I got to do this one In Connecticut. A pickle must be able to bounce.

Erik: 14:19

Oh, to be considered a pickle, otherwise it's just like a wet cucumber.

Kristin: 14:23

Well, here's a law that puts Connecticut farmers in quite a pickle. In 1948, two men were arrested for selling pickles that were unfit for human consumption. Discussing ways to check for good pickles, officials declare that a pickle is legitimate only if it bounces. The pickles in question did not bounce, so the two men were arrested and fined, and their pickles were destroyed.

Erik: 14:44

Oh my gosh. So instead of bouncing, they just like splat. I guess they were just too squished like gross.

Kristin: 14:51

I guess so.

Erik: 14:51

That makes. I mean nobody wants a pickle that's just going to smush into the ground. But they got us. How high are you dropping it from? What's the surface it's hitting?

Kristin: 15:00

I've never tried to bounce a pickle. I'm going to go home and my kids are going to go. What are you?

Erik: 15:04

doing. We could test them.

Kristin: 15:06

Your kids would have fun with that.

Erik: 15:07

Yeah, I feel like that's a good story for, like a pickle brand, the bouncing pickle yes, it would be a good name If anyone out there wants to start the bouncing pickle company.

Kristin: 15:15

Well, and I'm thinking we should start a movie production company. These are a lot of good. These could be good, a good Netflix series. You know, every episode is a different law.

Erik: 15:24

Will you test a pickle and we could see if it'll bounce? We could post it Sure, and then we can sue the company if it doesn't.

Kristin: 15:31

For I could get a couple different brands and see which one bounces highest.

Erik: 15:34

We get a pickle bouncing competition. And just what state was this? Connecticut.

Kristin: 15:39

Yep, okay, so since 1948.

Erik: 15:42

We'll have to do some checking on that and then we could we could write, have a strongly worded letter to the pickle companies that don't bounce.

Kristin: 15:49

Do you have any connections in Connecticut?

Erik: 15:51

No, I don't but.

Kristin: 15:53

I bet there's somebody listening that does.

Erik: 15:54

Yeah, it's like the ambulance chasers are the people looking for reasons to sue and get money? We could say, hey, this brand. Their pickles are not bouncing. If you get a jar of it carried into Connecticut, you might be able to really score big.

Kristin: 16:05

Right. I think that could make a cool billboard too.

Erik: 16:09

Yeah.

Kristin: 16:09

Well, I mean, I could just get lost in this all day. It's hilarious. I mean, this could be a party, party game.

Erik: 16:16

Yeah, to read these. Yeah, see what happens.

Kristin: 16:19

But we'll we'll link it in the show notes so everybody can check their own state too and make sure, and before you travel yeah you want to make sure you know the laws of where you're going.

Erik: 16:27

Before I cross the state line, I will read their entire book of laws just to make sure, because, again you know, a lack of knowledge is no excuse especially if you're taking your donkey especially for your canary donkey canary pickles all these things, my fishing poles right. Yeah, you got to be careful in Montana especially.

Kristin: 16:45

Yeah, so that would just. I just thought that was hilarious and it could take you down a rabbit hole for a while.

Erik: 16:51

Yeah, and also you hope there would be. They should should make a law. It's like if no one is booked on a law for a hundred years, the law should vanish and disappear from the books. It should. It's like a reverse. It would be fun if they had like a reverse hall of fame like the hall of fame they got a vote and they get chances. There should be like a reverse hall of fame like law dropping, where at the end of the year something fun for lawmakers to do is everybody votes on the laws that should be taken off the books and then there can be a funny debate in every state about the laws that shouldn't shouldn't be there and they can all vote to remove stupid laws from the books but make a big thing about why. But you know that would take too much and I'm sure people wouldn't be happy to be kind of wasting their time getting rid of these old laws, but it would be interesting though, be an interesting thing to see each state go through.

Kristin: 17:37

Yep, I think that's a great idea.

Erik: 17:39

Yeah, speaking of laws, I we're always looking for the different stories around the world regarding cabins and like, when I think of Ireland, you don't envision log cabins pretty much at all. Like, I don't think of log cabins. You think of like beautiful stone, small stone cottages with the moss creeping up and pecans peeking around the corner. If you're going to really stereotype things, speaking of stereotyping Irish, this is still my. I tell people this is my favorite Irish male that I've ever had. Right, irish and potatoes is like an obvious stereotype, it's all. And I'm like you go to and we've been to Ireland. My wife's family, um, still has family in Ireland and we visit and my, my favorite meal that I had in Ireland no joke was pot roast with red potatoes. French fries and mashed potatoes is what it came out at and I was just like this is like way too much leaning into the stereotypes. But Ireland, just like a lot of places in the world right now, has partial housing crisis. Right, they're still building apartments in large cities, but there's not very much affordable housing out in the countryside. And Ireland also, like their entire country, because of the beautiful roads and the way that tourism travel works, they're very conscientious about the aesthetics of the entire country. You know it's got to look old world and still match the way and they're trying to find that balance between growth and having people to stay and having places for people to like live that match the aesthetic. Have you been to Ireland? Yeah, so Cork County is a big county in Ireland and this is articles from the Irish Examiner. It's.

Erik: 19:25

Cork County may relax rules on building log cabins as homes. Log cabins cost 60,000 to 80,000 euros, are eco friendly and relatively cheap to heat. People holding to build log cabins to use as homes in Cork County are likely to see an easing of the rules around where such structures can be built. The ongoing housing crisis has seen a sharp rise in planning applications for log cabins to be used as homes in the county. Such cabins are relatively inexpensive, are eco friendly and relatively cheap to heat. Cork County Council generally only grants permission for such homes to be constructed on the edge of forestry, so they say, you can only build them next to the woods. Now the local authorities agreed to review this policy after counselors highlighted that current restrictive rules mean applicants were being refused. So they're saying like there's no trees near your house, you need to, not, you can't be a log cabin and I'm sure it has to be some other kind of home. But it says young couples who cannot afford concrete, brick built homes, which are on average four times the price of the cabin, are increasingly seeking this cheaper option to get a foot on the property ladder.

Erik: 20:33

Fianna Fale, counselor William O'Leary, told how he'd been contacted by a number of constituents who had planning applications for log cabins refused. These applicants live in rural areas but not next to forests. We need to relook at our rural design guide. Why do you? Who do you think is applying for them? Little Red Riding Hood housing I love the Irish, yeah, this is a quote.

Erik: 20:55

Who do you think is applying for them? Little Red Riding Hood? The Housing SPC special purposes committee must look at this as a matter of urgency. Mr O'Leary said he won widespread support from colleagues when he asked for a relaxation of the designated areas where such cabins can be built. Mr Shea says he lives in a rural area which can certainly sustain log cabin development and said he disagrees with current policy that such cabins have to be located on the edges of forests. So the article goes on and on and they're saying it's not necessary for us to have a serious discussion about that. So, isn't that? It's just so interesting that, I mean, log cabins have been around forever, but Ireland, you don't think of log cabins, and now they're like. They're a great way for young people to get a foot on the property ladder.

Kristin: 21:41

Well, I think too, some of it, as we've seen, as we share some crazy cabins on you know, this podcast. There has to be some definition of what that cabin means and what it actually looks like, and so I mean this could be a debate for a little while of it's not just by the woods, but what does it actually look like when it gets to town?

Erik: 22:09

Yeah, what materials are used? How does it fit in with the landscape? You would think that some Irish architect could take on a look of like okay, we get that. You know the traditional boilerplate like log cabin is not a look we want to have scattered and like around the Irish countryside from an aesthetic point of view. But you would think they could take like an additional Irish home style. Revamp the look of the cabin, still build it in the same way with the same materials, but just change up the style to call it like an Irish cabin or something To keep it affordable, keep it affordable but still fitting in with the look of Ireland.

Kristin: 22:47

Or maybe they could plant more forest closer to the cabins.

Erik: 22:51

Right, oh, for sure, for sure. This article was like a year ago. I don't see anything that's popped up since then, so I don't know what happens. I'll have to do a little more research and see if they actually came to an agreement.

Kristin: 23:04

I'd love to see what they ended up looking like.

Erik: 23:05

Yeah, and if we have any listeners from Ireland or know anybody, we'll have to see if they know anything about this cabin, if this was actually a big deal or just like a random little zoning spat. But there were multiple articles about it and it's uh, I'm sure you know, whenever homes and home styles and allowing it like Ireland is again such a small country, it's kind of like they're acting like this is all one HOA, like homeowners association, that they're all talking about. Like you know, cut your grass to certain size, what your home style can be, what the color can be, how it can look, but they treat the country like that because the entire country is like a tourism destination.

Kristin: 23:43

And there's so much of that that I do respect and appreciate.

Erik: 23:46

Yes.

Kristin: 23:47

Well, next time you're over there you'll have to tell Sam and the kids you can't make the soccer game because you're going to go investigate.

Erik: 23:54

Right, yeah, we're going to go hunting for these modular log cannons and see what happened.

Kristin: 24:00

Yeah, then you can report back to us.

Erik: 24:01

Yeah, we have some new music, too this week, and this is a band that we've showcased before, and whenever bands that we really love are showcased, we really love when a new album comes out, so this is Shane Smith and the Saints. I know they were featured on an episode of Yellowstone a while back, so some of you might be familiar with them. They have an upcoming album that has just a beautiful cover. I love when, like paintings of clouds over, like the western landscapes and planes, and their album is called Northern, and it's upcoming. They just released some new songs, and so you can check it out right away.

Erik: 24:42

Now, again, shane Smith and the Saints and this is from their website just talking about the album, it ain't black or white, babe, it's all the grays between. Shane Smith sings in the grays between, the first single from Northern. On the surface, it's a cinematic love song about a relationship, twists and turns Punctuated by slide, guitar, appellation, fiddle and sharp storytelling. Take a deeper listen to Shane Smith and the Saints for studio album, though, and those words will sound more like the motto of a band that spent a decade blurring the lines between genres. So we're gonna just play a short clip of the song the grays between from Shane Smith and the Saints new album Northern.

Speaker 3: 25:50

That's me anything, babe. I'll give him my best shot. Tell me just what you need. I'll try to give you everything I got. Is that? Search any forest and I'm crossing. He see, I Loved you with everything that I had, but it brought me here to my knees. Giving time, I'll swear. I'll give you what you need. It's all the grays between, and I slept a night since you were next to me. You're not a wrong or right babe, but you're everything I need.

Kristin: 26:50

Love it. I love how it starts. I feel like I'm sitting in a small venue Listening to great music and people are tapping their feet. Yeah, it's like you can just visualize being there with the way the intro Starts. And then there's sometimes when I hear music for the first time and I'm like that's not what I thought the voice was gonna sound like and I can't wait to see what they look like.

Erik: 27:12

Oh yeah.

Kristin: 27:13

Because that's, that's a well, it's. It sounds like a voice full of wisdom. Yes and so I'm like is it a young person with this big, full voice? Are they older? Like I couldn't wait to see your so check it out.

Erik: 27:27

I mean, check them out there. They're awesome and they have a lot of really great songs. Yeah, it's always fun when they come out with new new bands. So that's again Shane Smith and the Saints and their new album, norther, and they just released some more songs on the album that are really good. We were actually having a hard time deciding which song to play, but since this is the feature one, it's a good one to share.

Kristin: 27:46

Well, on that one, I can picture that one on a. On a drive, yep, on a windy road up through all the pines of the north woods. I can picture it floating on the pontoon. I can picture it sitting by the campfire like that's great music, all the way around.

Erik: 28:01

Jukebox song at the bar. It's a good one.

Kristin: 28:03

It's great. Well, and something that came into my mind when you mentioned the cover of this album and the clouds, I have a favorite artist who does beautiful paintings. He's passed away. He was a painter back in the 30s and, and before he he actually went to my alma mater, my college in Iowa. So he was friends with Grant Wood. A lot of people know Grant Wood, but his name is Marvin Cohn and his name is. His name is Marvin Cohn and he Does beautiful landscapes full of these clouds, so everybody should look up Marvin Cohn if you Love that kind of look. It's across Midwest fields and Marvin Cohn.

Kristin: 28:48

Marvin Cohn, so I'll link him in the show notes too. We have some of them hanging in our home down in the driftless, awesome beautiful.

Erik: 28:57

Awesome. Yeah, the other guy I think of with clouds is Mark majority. Have you heard of Mark? He does these Western prints so we can with these amazing cloud Photos, like these crazy western scenes with like these vibrant cowboys with Unbelievable storm clouds in the background.

Kristin: 29:15

Yes, that'll be fun to look at both of those. If you're looking for ways to put more art into your home, a lot of these. You can get great prints at a good price and then frame them beautifully so.

Erik: 29:27

Yeah, I actually at the store. I when I have been able to source antiques. It's been a while since I've been able to shop for a lot of cool vintage things and you guys sell amazing vintage items and it's one of my favorite things to do. But I've missed some of the flea markets I used to go to to find things lately. But I bought an original painting of an elk with a bird on its head Quite a while ago and sold it at the store and now the lady is called back.

Erik: 29:52

She's like I wanted to find a match. I'm moving it and I need an area to match who's the artist and I've been doing Google searches and trying to find. I think it was just like a one-off, you know, painted on a hardboard painting of someone that just didn't you like painters. Signatures are usually so ill Allegible on the corner of the painting like I can't tell. I can't figure out any history. I feel bad for the lady. I'm like we didn't, because usually most of the stuff we sell at our store we can repeat and find information and buy. But when we find these cool vintage things it's like well, that's, as far as I can tell, one of a kind I can't even find a photo of a painting that looks like it anywhere online and if that artist knew that how much work was going in to find more of their art, right, oh, they would love that.

Erik: 30:34

Yeah, they would love that. Yeah, so that that's always interesting. So you know, I guess maybe the message there is like you can do your cool funky art signature on the front, but maybe write your name and cell phone number on the back of the frame, true?

Kristin: 30:49

Well, if anybody else has another artist they love, we would love to hear about it.

Erik: 30:52

Yeah, yeah, Northwoods and Western. I mean I absolutely, absolutely share that stuff.

Kristin: 30:59

Well, thanks everybody. Have a great week I.