336: The parts of the software development life cycle that can't be automated by AI (with OutSystems' Woodson Martin)

What the Dev?

What the Dev?
336: The parts of the software development life cycle that can't be automated by AI (with OutSystems' Woodson Martin)
Dec 16, 2025
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In this episode, Jenna interviews Woodson Martin, CEO of OutSystems, about how AI only really assists with a portion of the software development life cycle.

They discuss:

  • The areas that will still require a human touch
  • The evolution of the developer role and how success should be measured differently
  • The bottlenecks that still exist even with AI-assisted coding
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