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#1745 - Sometimes You Don’t Know How Good You Are Until You’re Teaching It

• Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros

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Show notes:
(1:41) Effective presentation skills
(6:42) Audience and feedback
(8:38) Realizing the depth of knowledge through teaching
(10:57) How to teach efficiently?
(15:19) Skill breakdown
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Speaker 1

Next Level Nation. Welcome back to another episode of Next Level University, where we help you level up your life, your love, your health and your wealth. Today, for episode number 1,745,. Sometimes you don't know how good you are until you're teaching it. I think I suck at what I'm going to talk about, but I got really good feedback on what I talked about, so you'll hear it in a second here.

Speaker 1

So, as you know, last week I was in Toronto and I was in Toronto to give a speech on how to ask powerful questions. So Evan Carmichael said when you and Alan interviewed me, it was one of my favorite interviews I've ever been on and you guys asked really really good questions. And then we ended up going to Toronto and interviewing him again and then I think, we went up there again to interview him. So we've interviewed him three times. I interviewed him again when I was up there for a fourth time and he had a lot of kind words to say and this was his mastermind and people flew in from all over the country and world to be at this mastermind and I got the opportunity to do a 45-minute speech and my speech was it was titled Alan Questions Are the Answer.

Speaker 1

That was the name of my presentation.

Speaker 2

Nice work.

Speaker 1

They really are. They are, that's a great great concept.

Effective presentation skills

Speaker 1

He asked me, I don't know, maybe like two weeks ago, to speak on this specific thing. And when he asked me, I was like there's no way I can do an entire 45 minutes on how to ask powerful questions. There's no, how can I possibly do that? And then let's take it a layer deeper. He wanted it to be on how to ask yourself powerful questions so you can make powerful content, and I was like there's no way this is gonna happen. There's no possibility I can do 45 minutes on this. And it took me. This is the hardest presentation I've ever made by far, bar none, not close. I didn't even know if I was gonna be able to do it. I tried to do it like a week ahead of time. I sent Evan what I had and he said nah, dude, that ain't it. You're missing the Kevin magic. Try again. It's like shit. Okay, delete it, start from scratch.

Speaker 1

When I got to Toronto. I got to Toronto on Tuesday. I had nothing for my presentation and I was speaking on Friday. Wednesday. I interviewed Evan, didn't work on it at all. I worked on it Thursday and then Friday morning and I couldn't come up with anything. I was freaking out. I was like there's no way I'm going to get this done. I don't know what I'm going to say. I don't have any stories.

Speaker 2

You shielded me from your freak out quite a bit.

Speaker 1

Yeah, that was by design. What do you mean? I'd like for you to think that I'm a somewhat capable human who, when I fly the coop, I will not get eaten by an eagle or a hawk so it was. My goal was to like you didn't, you did it in the past.

Speaker 2

Would you panic, move and call?

Speaker 1

100, 100 nice hundo p, hundo p. I knew I could figure it out, so I I put together a presentation. Boom, here we go, we go, we go. On the day of After I made it, I was like I think this is going to be good, like we're good, I put a lot into this, this is going to flow nicely.

Speaker 2

Real quick. I got to share something.

Speaker 1

Please.

Speaker 2

So Kevin and I did the Next Level Hope Foundation event and once the fathers that came and the children that left, kevin and I were like, okay, fishing, the ymca is on a lake, we're gonna go get some fishing. And we found a little spot. You'll see some photos most likely come through the social meds, and this is kev's move. So I sent my presentation to evan and he didn't really like it. What do you think? What are your thoughts on this? That's like the question what are your thoughts on this? That's the panic move is what are your thoughts holistically about this?

Speaker 1

what are your thoughts on this?

Speaker 2

yeah, aka, I don't know what to do what do I? Do. I'm freaking out, but I don't want you to know. I'm freaking out what, what would you do and then? But you didn't do that this time.

Speaker 1

I mean you did next to the hope foundation I knew I had it what's different, and now you're more aware.

Speaker 2

I don't know what I'm talking about that was a big piece.

Speaker 1

I was like he can't help me anyway.

Speaker 2

Yeah, no, I didn't think that I can help you, but not in the way you thought originally when we first started working together I mean at this point, you and I have done how many canva presentations together like seriously? I actually have never crunched numbers on that. I love canva now hundreds and hundreds and let's just say presentations in general.

Speaker 1

Hundreds and hundreds and hundreds. We've done 12,. How many rounds of group coaching have we done?

Speaker 2

14.

Speaker 1

14 times 6?

Speaker 2

14 times 6, yeah.

Speaker 1

So what's that? 60, 24, 64, 84. So that's 84, so we've done hundreds of presentations. That's one of the reasons I was like I just haven't found it yet. I just this is something I've never talked about. I'm focused on making sure the interview goes well, so I can't really put time into it right now. When I sit down to do it and I'm crunched by the time, I'll come up with something.

Speaker 2

Plus, you need to know the room. Most important thing ever is you got to know who is in the room.

Speaker 1

And I did. I got to go. The first thing I opened with was one of the best pieces of me going last going on the last day is I feel like I know all of you more like friends than strangers, which is awesome because I feel like I'm talking to a room of people that I know deeply. So that was very important for me. But I got really good feedback. I got great feedback from everybody in the room and it was a really good understanding for me of you don't really know how much you know about something until somebody challenges you to teach it.

Speaker 1

It would be very easy, even like Zoom. I think Zoom's a really good example. Yes, most people know how to use Zoom now, but when everything first started going virtual and I had podcast clients that were going virtual and they were saying, hey, can you help me with Zoom? It's like oh, you're going to be fine, all you're going to do is log in and then you're good. And then it's like well, how do I do my mic? How do I do my camera? I want to do a virtual background. How do I record? Where does it go when I record it?

Speaker 2

It goes to the cloud. Do you set that up? I feel like there is an echo, then there's just a million and all the settings too, all the settings hd you can mirror your video.

Speaker 1

You can mirror your video. How do I get someone link to the room like how do I, did they need a password?

Audience and feedback

Speaker 2

and that's not even including zoom whiteboard, zoom whiteboard. Recently I've been doing coaching on coaching next level certified coaching with certain team members and that's been fascinating because we're trying to all use the whiteboard simultaneously. And I have some clients now that are trying to use whiteboard. One of my clients shout out to Cole. He said hey man, I'm going to draw something for you and I was like perfect. He's like I got to get your take on something, can I draw? It's like let's can live for man, let's do this. So he's drawing and but there's it's. He's like how do I erase? I'm like I don't even know if I know how to tell you you just click the erase button. Well, where's that? I have no idea. My brain just knows. So it's.

Speaker 1

It's all muscle memory, you know that's what I was dealing with it was. It was very similar to that. It was very much. I don't know if I can possibly teach this, but once I started it was like, oh my goodness, I know way more about asking questions than I really gave myself credit for.

Speaker 2

Give us the goods.

Speaker 1

I can't give you the goods. I can't give you the goods. What do you think this is? What do you mean? No, you think I remember you know me. That presentation is gone. The second I do it, it's gone. So after that Evan was like hey, man, I want you to do that again and for my group on the 4th of July. Are you working? The 4th of July I said, of course I'm working. The 4th of July.

Speaker 2

Let me do it Virtual. He's like, yeah, we have a monthly meetup on that day. We do yeah, we should probably change that. What time are you doing this with Ev?

Speaker 1

I'm doing it in the afternoon, but I think we should probably change the monthly meetup just because most people are going to be out. But we did a poll.

Realizing the depth of knowledge through teaching

Speaker 2

We did a poll. Everyone's good with it. Okay, we did a poll in Next Level Nation, all right. Well, let's do it. We're very connected. Tapped in because amy amy and I were thinking the same thing but, dude, the majority of our audience either doesn't care and or isn't from the us. The fourth of july is, I think, only us yeah, it's an only we're doing. We're doing five to six yeah, cool, and then four to five will be prep cool. I mean, when is the evan? It's like 12.

Speaker 1

I think it's 11 to 130 or something big day for the kid I have an hour it's an hour and a half.

Speaker 1

Big day for the kid. I have an hour it's an hour and a half, this time Nice, which is cool. So that's that's really the point. That's where I wanted to go this episode. I don't want to talk about me as much as I enjoy. I do enjoy talking about myself occasionally and when I have cool stuff that happens. I like talking about that no-transcript After somebody forced me to make an entire presentation on it. It's like wow, I know way more about asking questions than I ever thought I did. Now I'm excited to dig deeper into what I made so I can do a longer presentation, because now I know I know more than I gave myself credit for. Odds are, you're out there and you're really good at a lot of stuff and until somebody sits you down and says, look, explain to me exactly how you did blank, blank, blank and blank, you'll think it's minute and not important, and that's not true.

Speaker 2

We undervalue the things that have always come easy to us. That's such a thing.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, you with words and concepts titling.

Speaker 2

that's it asking questions, asking questions even podcasting I'll never forget the leader of our part of our team, the leader of next level podcast solutions, ron, shout out to ron. She said I don't understand how you guys do it, because I was picking her brain, because she listens to a lot of episodes, because she used to be audio editing all the clients and all that. I said who's who's your favorite?

How to teach efficiently?

Speaker 2

she didn't want to tell me because we were second it wasn't us, yeah, but also the ones that she said were really good. So I get it and I said well, why? She said the stories he tells are unbelievable. So shout out to John Lurito. He was the guy and I just wanted to learn and get better. But she said I don't understand how you guys hit record. You pick a topic and then go, and the truth is I don't either. That was an accumulated compound effect of years and years and years and years and years. Were we naturally good at podcasting from the get? I listened to episode eight recently garbage, but I wonder which one was that uh, just me.

Speaker 2

It came up on spotify. It was up in new hampshire with you, had a guinness, it was me and you yeah, I don't know why. On spotify it was number eight, but I was with amy because I was doing a pepsi challenge. That's what I call it. Now I realize that reference doesn't land to anyone who is younger. Yeah, yeah, isn't the old folk like us, but I wanted to pepsi challenge the audio quality Horrible. I sound like I'm way in the distance, man.

Speaker 1

That was. Look for those on YouTube. This is how throwback I am. This is literally the mixer we used back then. This is the actual mixer that we used for those episodes right here.

Speaker 2

And we had those filter screen, circle things yeah, those are pop filters.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, this thing's.

Speaker 2

Uh, you sounded fine, not fine, but way better than me. I sounded like I was out in the distance.

Speaker 1

I was a better podcaster than you, you know. I mean, that's all it really was is I. You know when you're, when you're mastering the craft, like I am, and as serious about the craft, you know the distance of the mic and you know kind of that type of stuff. You were just newer than me that's fair.

Speaker 2

So, anyways, where was I going with all of that?

Speaker 1

what did you say before this? Oh, my goodness, the kids off. Today we're talking about you're so. You're really good at something, not you?

Speaker 2

yes, the collective you got it yeah I gave a training on Saturday and we're getting back to basics at NLU. I was talking about Ron, though. Oh, the point there was how do you guys just jump on the mics and rock and roll? And the answer is I don't really know. We just, over time, we just got to that place. But then when you go and break everything down into its simplest possible steps, how can you be obsessive enough to where you break everything down to its simplest possible steps? I've come to understand that that is the way that you teach. Well, in the beginning of kevin and i's trainings and speeches, we over complicated everything without knowing it, and by we I mean mostly me, let's be honest, but you didn't exactly help in the beginning, and then eventually you're like dude, I don't know man I thought you knew everything definitely not.

Speaker 2

I knew stuff. I didn't know how to break things down into the simplest possible form. Now you have to break things down into their. It's almost like if I could take apart this computer and I could teach you about computers. The best way to teach kevin about computers is I take apart this computer, not this one, because I love this one, but we take apart your computer and I show you all the different components and then I explain piece by piece what each component does and I and I relate it with a metaphor to something you already understand, and at NLU we try to do this very well and we do that often Analogies, metaphors, similes, all that Okay. So I gave a training on Google Sheets. We're getting back to basics. We're calling this the unsexy. I'm calling this the unsexy fundamentals series. So we've been doing a monthly training for the NLU team every month for 25 months. I think the 25th was on Saturday, which is also wild to think about. We've been doing that for 25 months. That's two years.

Speaker 2

Yeah, that is wild I mean I can't say I've been to every one, because I haven't been to most of them lately. You used to be there every week or every month and then you got overwhelmed and we canned as much from your calendar as we could.

Speaker 1

Too cool for school. I was literally going through security at that time. I believe in Toronto.

Skill breakdown

Speaker 2

And so we broke it down. What are the things that every person at NLU really needs to master? And, for the sake of this episode, I do think this is important for everyone out there. You know more than you realize, and that's kind of the point of this episode. But so Christina and I the chief officer, chief operations officer of the company, coo she and I sat down and said listen, the biggest bottleneck at NLU is our tech skills. We have a virtual company and I'm not trying to be unkind and I'm not saying that the NLU team doesn't have statistically better tech skills than most, but the truth is we need to learn these things and be better. And that's just my truth. So the 13 tech skills we wrote down if you want to be an NLU Indian, an NLU team member, we need to master Google Sheets, zoom you just explained Zoom, so that's perfect reference Google Calendar, whatsapp there's a phone app, there's a web app, there's a native app, google Drive, gmail, canva, calendly, google Docs, google Tasks and the NLU website. I mean, a lot of the team didn't really know what was on the website, and so this is a problem and I've noticed that that's been very clear. Like, I think our biggest bottleneck is just tech skills, hard skills. We talk soft skills all the time. Character over everything, belief systems, awareness, consistency. Those things are naturally a part of and it makes sense Kev. This is in hindsight, 2020. And for the listeners, we're a self-improvement company, so of course, the self-improvement stuff is taking care of itself. It's the hard skills that we need, and so these trainings are super boring but super valuable.

Speaker 2

So I did a training on Google sheets and I went into that training similar to Kev, where I didn't think I was anything special. I didn't go in. I'm a Google sheets master. I've never once had that thought. I've never once been like I'm a spreadsheet guru. I do think that I'm very good at mathematics, I think that I'm decent at spreadsheets and I think that spreadsheets are mostly math. Okay, numbers Makes sense.

Speaker 2

But after that training, I went into Amelia's office and I was like am I a Google Sheets wizard? And she's like did you just do your training? I was like, oh my god, there's so much to it. I couldn't believe how much there was to it. Okay, you hold shift here. You, you highlight this. You can hide columns, you can add rows, add columns, formulas, some average. All this I couldn't even. It took me an hour, we didn't even get through all of it.

Speaker 2

And again, just for context, because again I want this to really land for our listeners of all the things that you might be amazing at that you don't think you're amazing at. And if you don't think you're amazing at them, maybe you're not teaching them, maybe you're not giving yourself the self-worth that you deserve, maybe you're not doubling down on the strengths that you have. One second here I'm good at google sheets, not at uh organization in my notebook. All right, this is what I went over. This is just google sheets. Oh boy, there's 14 items different uh, different formats, formatting, different amounts of decimal places and how to change them, making graphs. A lot more to that than I realized for sure column spacing, total productive output formulas, summations, averages.

Speaker 2

Hide, slash, unhide. Standard nlu formatting. Insert, note, add subtract rows. Calculating gip and team tpo import functions. Copying the sheets and different spreadsheets. Then there's the whole sheet within a spreadsheet thing. That's confusing as hell. How to use google drive with it, how to convert excel files into google sheets files, and I had this moment of no wonder why everyone's confused. And one more thing, quickly I told everyone on the training I said I've been doing everyone's peak performance trackers and google sheets and for the last seven years I've just been formatting them, updating them, doing it for everybody. And I realize in hindsight how detrimental that was because I easily could have just taught everyone how to do it. And I mean, think about how much time and effort I put into making sure even just your sheets. How many times have I redesigned yours so many?

Speaker 1

yeah, so I.

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Speaker 2

It gets to a point where everything's gotten so much bigger and I'm so grateful. We have a bigger team, we have a bigger community, we have a bigger roster of clients. So now I can't sustain it. I can't do everyone's sheets all the time. Group coaching 26 people on my one-on-one coaching plus the whole team, about to have 22 people. I can't sustain this. So now I have to replicate the, the learning, and multiply and scale it, and the only way to do that is to go back to basics.

Speaker 2

So number one back to basics, is so much more powerful than you realize. Number one, because people need to learn these things. Number two, because you're going to learn how much you actually know. And so that's the point of this episode is what have you mastered so far beyond the norm that you have no idea and you completely don't think twice about it well, that's the hard part is when you, when you start something, you start with basics and seven years down the line, your basics are gone.

Speaker 1

They're just. You don't even think about it. This is a really good thought. When Taron and I went to Scotland, pops stayed with the cats and we took my car to the bus stop to go to the airport and Pops was using Taron's car. Taron has a hybrid and he's like how do I start it? Where do I put the key? It's like oh no, it's a button. You hit the button. He's like okay, hit the button.

Speaker 1

And he was driving down the highway and he called taran and he said I think there's something wrong with your, your tire. It keeps like doing this bumping thing. And she's like no, that's like the lane assist, like when you get close to going outside the lane, it vibrates and it keeps you in the lane. He had no idea. He was like because his car is a little bit older, it doesn't have that technology. Same thing, same thing when, when you do something new for the first time, you are like a giraffe, a baby giraffe, and you're you're falling all over the place every time question for you and don't answer it right away.

Speaker 1

Give me five seconds, okay. This is for everyone out there listening, because I think many of you will probably know this answer and you probably won't know why, but I think it's because it was really well connected. What is the mitochondria?

Speaker 2

And go. You want me to answer yes, the powerhouse of the cell.

Speaker 1

The effing powerhouse of the cell. Everybody knows that. I think Not everybody, but a lot of people know that. I think it's because it's a really easy thing to remember the powerhouse of the cell, the mitochondria. I don't remember about the sarcoplasm, I don't remember what any of that is.

Speaker 2

I don't even know if that's it. Cytoplasm, that's a thing.

Speaker 1

Sarcoplasm is one too, I think. No-transcript. Yeah, it's got a little bit of comedy in it. You know any other ones?

Speaker 2

The nucleus.

Speaker 1

Oh, everybody knows that one. Everybody knows that. No, if you ask me that, I probably know what about the Hold on.

Speaker 2

One of my clients called me out on a biology. Apparently I said something about enzymes. That was wrong.

Speaker 1

You like the enzyme.

Speaker 2

Big fan, it's a catalyst.

Speaker 1

Maybe that was it.

Speaker 2

Yeah, she said something about we can't get into it, no big deal, shout out to whoever that person is.

Speaker 1

I respect that person a lot for calling you out.

Speaker 2

She's very bright, yeah, big fan, and she did it very tastefully too.

Speaker 2

I said listen, I'm trying to make things land that are important. If I said it wrong, that's on me. Land that are important, I don't. If I said it wrong, that's on me, I bet. Well, the powerhouse of the cell. So, for everyone out there, what about you? Has never changed. What have you gotten good at? Without even remembering that you're good at it, because I remember another experience with emilia, what you know, it wasn't my go-to. What about you never change when I used to have guests.

Speaker 1

We each had a question that we would ask each guest. Mine was what do you hope to accomplish before you die? And alan would say time elapses, things happen, what about you never changed? And the second he said what about you never changed?

Speaker 2

I realized he didn't know where he was it's one of my favorite questions in the world.

Speaker 1

I haven't heard you ask that in years.

Speaker 2

Reading a book in book club called Same as Ever. I must ask that question 10 times in that hour because that book is about what never changes.

Speaker 1

Great book.

Speaker 2

Great book. I voted for that, so I'm glad it won Nice, Nice yeah it's been extraordinary as a for that, so I'm glad it won Nice, nice.

Speaker 1

Yeah, it's been extraordinary.

Speaker 2

As a matter of fact, I recommended that to one of my clients recently. She just reached out and said I understand why you recommended this book. This is game changer. I said, yep, Unbelievable. What was I saying before that?

Speaker 1

You were talking about Emilia.

Speaker 2

When I first taught Emilia how to play basketball, it was the first time she'd ever learned how to play basketball. I had no idea how much I understood, because I played basketball when I was a kid. I played in middle school. We actually won the championship.

Speaker 1

In middle school. Yeah, you've taken us back.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I was one of the top three players. You wouldn't remember these people. I won't go into it but, they were really good. We had a really good team.

Speaker 1

Middle school. Our team was stacked yeah, you think I was caring about basketball in middle school.

Speaker 2

No, you weren't, but you know these people. Ryan Hippert was on my team.

Speaker 1

I was out hustling the streets on my bike, man.

Speaker 2

No, you weren't.

Speaker 1

You were playing baseball little league not middle school. Yes, true, how old are you? I was in eighth grade man, how old am I in eighth grade? 13 years old, 13 years old I was. Yeah, that was. I was the last last year of, uh, little league, farm league, right, or whatever. No farm leagues when you're eight, nine and ten, whatever man.

Speaker 2

Yeah, sorry, okay so I taught emilia basketball, and that was a trip, right or?

Speaker 2

whatever no farm leagues when you're 8, 9, and 10. Whatever man, yeah, sorry about that. Okay, so I taught Emilia basketball and that was a trip for me. Another example Well, she's like layup, what's a layup? And we were just hammering, we were having fun. And she's like you talk a lot of shit when you play ball. I said listen, that's how you survive on the court. Everything's slang. I'm like lay it up and then I I shoot swish. She's like what did she call it? She said swishies or swish cheese. I said swishies and she called it swish cheese. That's a new joke now. Yeah, we have a lot of fun with it.

Valuing your skills

Speaker 2

But the point is is you accumulate these understandings and then you try to teach them and realize, holy crap, I'm so much better than I thought at this and holy crap, there's so much more to this than I ever thought because years accumulate. I mean, I had been playing basketball since I was a little kid, so she didn't know a thing and I'm sitting there just saying all these slang terms that she has no reference to whatsoever. Make it, take it. She's like what you know, you make it, take it. She's like what you know, you make it, you take, you got to do a layup. Just lay up, get the rebound. She's thinking relationships right, so it's fun. But for the listeners, what are you awesome at that you might not be realizing?

Speaker 1

last thing before we go. I think this is a weird thing about me. Do you ever think about how many different vehicles you have driven in your lifetime? Have you ever thought about that once? No, how many do you think it would be if you had a guess?

Speaker 2

huh, just had some fun flashbacks. I I jacked my mom's uh jaguar to go party.

Speaker 1

Not responsible of you, very responsible of you.

Speaker 2

That thing had a system in it too Of course it did.

Speaker 1

We went and did our thing. It was nice, I think it was fast, extremely unreliable.

Speaker 2

Oh yeah, it was super fast, I would, I don't know, 100?.

Speaker 1

I think you've driven 100 vehicles.

Speaker 2

Are you including snowmobiles and all that?

Speaker 1

yeah, are you including snowmobiles and all that? No, no, no, no actual vehicles.

Speaker 2

Oh, I don't know 50, I think about that often.

Speaker 1

Why?

Speaker 1

because I think that's one of the reasons I'm a good driver. No, no, you're good, I've probably driven. I've at least 100 vehicles minimum. Yeah, and it makes me because every time I get into a new car like I rented a car in toronto and it was like, oh yeah, cool, I'm good, off to the races, let me adjust my mirrors. Bing, we're good. But I, I did that when I worked at my old company. We had like seven different vans. I mean, how many cars have I had in my day? Every partner I've ever dated I've driven their car. I drove your car. The Sub, the soub, the old soub, I drove the soub. Yeah, I just, I don't know.

Speaker 2

I think about that you had a point when you mentioned I have so many points so many hold on. You had a point earlier. It had to do with taryn, I think no her, her car yeah, yeah, you already made that point where are you? I'm having trouble I got an 82 yesterday I am overwhelmed.

Speaker 1

A little bit we got deep in the metrics earlier.

Speaker 2

I'm definitely overwhelmed. You said something earlier that you were gonna make a point about, and it'll come to me go ahead that's all I have.

Speaker 1

I'm done, I'm ready to go, ready to pack it up. Damn, it's now or never. I got nothing for you. I don't even think you're correct. I think you're in an alternate, alternate universe full of cytoplasm and mitochondria you were talking about it right before that.

Speaker 2

I think it had to do with vehicles I, I don't think so. Okay, I think you're, I think you're mistaken oh, scotland yeah you were talking about driving in scotland and how hard it was to relearn everything. I never said that no, is that where you were trying to go? No, you're 100, because you said when Taryn and I were in Scotland.

Speaker 1

No, I talked about her dad driving her car. Oh, got it Okay.

Speaker 2

So you just didn't go where I thought you were going to go.

Speaker 1

Yeah, Did you hear any of that, or were you just tuned out?

Speaker 2

No, I heard it. I thought you were going to go there, though.

Speaker 1

No, no no, because, dude yeah, that was a whole thing Can you go into that.

Speaker 1

When we went to Scotland a couple however, long ago it feels like a year ago, but it also feels like last week we rented a car because we were going to do a lot of driving and the wheel is on the opposite side of the car and you drive on the opposite side of the road and when we left the airport I was like babe, I don't know if I can do this. Left the airport, I was like I, babe, I don't know if I can do this. When you take a right, you have to go across the street. When you take a left, you're on the, you just stay on the same side and I was like I don't know if I can physically do this and I'm missing the turns. There's a million roundabouts.

Speaker 1

It was brutal, but by the end of the trip it come. It kind of became normal. And then when I came home, I was like I don't know if I'm going to be able to pick this up again. And it obviously came back faster because I have 20, 20?, no, 18 years of driving on this side of the road, two weeks of driving on that side.

Speaker 2

So yeah, yeah, your brain is wired for that way, not the other way. My point underneath that and thank you for sharing is I had a sniper who was in the army I. He interviewed me and he said something that I thought was very profound. That I think is relevant to this point. I know we gotta jump. He said if you're brand new to sniping, to guns, you've never hunted with your dad growing up or anything like that, or mom, I can teach you how to be pretty pretty good with a rifle in like eight hours. If you grew up with hunting, it takes me eight days because you've developed so many bad habits. I thought that was really cool that is cool.

Speaker 1

I thought it was gonna be the other way. I thought I thought he was going to say I thought so too.

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Speaker 2

I thought so too, and he said it's harder to unwire bad habits than it is to rewire good ones in if you're brand new, and so for anyone who is maybe intimidated by I've never done this before, well, there's another reason to start now, because you might actually be better off.

Speaker 1

One of the jobs. I told you this in one of our previous episodes. When I get hired as a personal trainer, one of the reasons I got hired was because I didn't have any experience and they literally said to me you don't have any bad habits to break.

Speaker 2

Brandon when he came on our team. That's been great. We just taught him from the ground up. 100% Yep.

Speaker 1

Next level nation.

Speaker 2

Nothing against you, brandon. It's not like you came with no skills. Yeah.

Speaker 1

Brandon's out here taking L's, but that's the interesting thing about him, brandon's the man. He's the most humble human there is and he would never listen to that and say, ah, these guys hate me. We love you deeply.

Speaker 2

Oh, big fan.

Speaker 1

Huge fan, big fan of B.

Speaker 2

Had his engagement party this weekend.

Speaker 1

Oh yeah, kid's jacked.

Speaker 2

Looking good.

Speaker 1

Yeah, looking good. Stud, studly, do-right, alright. If this episode resonated with you in some way, shape or form, please and the podcast in general does please leave us a review on whatever platform you are listening on. Doesn't matter if it's Apple or Spotify or wherever it is. We'll see it and we appreciate it very much. And if you are not yet subscribed, please subscribe so you never miss an episode of NLU. You can get a little bit better every single day. That is the goal. That is what we are aiming for. So, whether it's on Apple Podcasts, spotify you can subscribe there or on YouTube as well. We appreciate it all very, very much. As always, we love you, we appreciate you, grateful for each and every one of you, and at

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