#1749 - You Can’t Win Without Momentum

Maintaining momentum in business and personal life is a critical factor for long-term success. In this insightful episode,  Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros delve into the transformative power of sustained effort. The discussion introduces the S.C.I.S.L. framework—Sustainability, Consistency, Improvement, Scalability, and Longevity—as a powerful tool for evaluating and enhancing the effectiveness of your endeavors, empowering you with a strategic approach. They emphasize how long-term commitment can turn dreams into reality. Tune in to discover how to create lasting momentum in every aspect of your life.

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Show notes:
(1:51) Jumping from thing to thing
(5:05) S.C.I.S.L. framework
(9:31) Momentum and staying power
(13:00) Meet like-minded people and jumpsta

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Transcript

Speaker 1 0:00

Next Level Nation. Welcome back to another episode of Next Level University where we help you level up your life, your love, your health and your wealth. Today, for episode number 1,749, we did kind of a little teaser of this episode in the previous episode. You can't win without momentum. I had a moment today, alan, of, I would say, frustration.

Speaker 1 0:26

Tell me all about it, kevin, I'm going to tell you all about it, alan. I again frustration, not judgment. I wasn't judging this person, but I was frustrated based on the fact that we'll get into it. I saw a post from someone who you and I knew way back and they jumped from thing to thing. It was a podcast and it was this, and it was this, and it was this, and they've written a book and now that's the thing that they're talking about. They're talking about their book and again, you do.

Speaker 1 0:53

You, I haven't written a book, so I'm not talking trash, but it frustrated me because it looks like they're really winning at life, and I've talked to this person behind the scenes and they were not really winning at life. And the thing that frustrates me is the fact that people are going to make decisions based on what this person looks like they're doing versus what they're actually doing. And this is a really good example of this person does not have any momentum in anything they're doing. They're just jumping from one thing to another thing, to another thing, to another thing, and everybody assumes they have a ton of momentum because now they have a book or now they have a podcast or whatever it is Well they do have a ton of momentum with perception, With perception.

Jumping from thing to thing

Speaker 1 1:38

Yeah, that's fair, and one of the quotes I used to say back in the day that broke my heart to say it wasn't something that I think anybody should aspire to. But it doesn't matter how much you know and how it matters how much you can show, and that's what a lot of people are doing. They don't really know that much, but they're they're showing a bunch. But I had another thought with a podcaster that I used to work with who just has changed so many things, and it's one of those.

Speaker 1 2:06

I think one of the most common issues for human beings is that they try something for a month, they try something for two months, they try something for six months and it doesn't work. And then they abandon the plan and they try something new, and that goes for a month, two months, six months, and it doesn't work. And they continue doing this and their belief is that the thing that I am doing is not working. Not my perspective, my perception, my time perspective, my expectation around what I'm doing is off. Because what if you just did it for another six months instead of starting something else for six months or two months? You'd probably be in a drastically different place, and I think it's really hard to conceptualize that, to understand that, but it fires me up because I don't know, maybe it fires me up because I've fallen victim to that in the past and I've done that. I've tried something for a month and it didn't work. And I said I tried guitar, I tried to learn guitar for a month. It's like, ah, this isn't for me.

Speaker 2 3:10

But if I did it for a year I'd be awake. It didn't work though.

Speaker 1 3:13

Well, I think I said it's not for me. I'm not willing to put in the. My truth is I'm actually get good at this. That's the the truth. But I think what if everybody was that honest about their thing? What if they said honestly I'm not willing to give it a year. If it doesn't work in six months, I want to go somewhere else? I think people would be more okay with jumping from thing to thing if that was their truth. So yeah, today's episode is about momentum, I guess we have in my business coaching.

Speaker 2 3:45

I have an acronym called Sizzle. I'm big on acronyms these days. Emilia got me into them.

Speaker 1 3:52

I feel like you've always been big on acronyms Not as much as now, because she's into acronyms way more than I am.

Speaker 2 3:59

She used to have memory challenges, so now she has a really great memory and the tool of acronyms. So Sizzle is S-C-I-S-L I almost screwed that up S-C-I-S-L Sustainability.

Speaker 1 4:18

Oh boy.

Speaker 2 4:18

Oh yeah, consistency, Improvement, kev improvement I'm ready. Scalability I almost forgot that one. And longevity how sustainable is what you're doing? How consistent can you be at it? Daily, weekly, monthly, whatever? Are you improving along the way? Is it scalable and how long can you do this?

S.C.I.S.L. framework

Speaker 2 4:57

And so the podcast is a perfect example. We have a client, kevin, and I have a mutual client. Shout out to you. You know who I'm talking about, most likely because you, you and I just got off of a Zoom session and I'll always keep it anonymous. She's like well, you can use my name. I said no, no, no, I can't, because when I do that, my other clients think I'll use their name, so I can't, but anyways. So this client and I were on Zoom and she said I listen to Podcast Growth University and I coach with Kevin, and I listen to Next Level University and I coach with Alan and I listen to the Conscious Couple's podcast. I'm just getting after it. And I was like you are awesome. Talk about an ideal client. I said imagine you get 1% better each time you listen to the episode, each time you listen to Conscious Couples, each time you listen to Podcast Growth University, each time you coach with Kevin and I Do.

Speaker 2 5:51

You have any idea what that compounds into? And so this podcast how Sustainable Is it? That person that I'm referring to came to us, found us through a podcast that I went on. I went on her show and then she booked a free session with me and then we ended up coaching and then she ended up coaching with you and then she found Podcast Growth Universe. It just compounds. And so momentum she's in momentum, I can feel it. I can always tell I don't know if this is a weird me thing, it might be, but I can tell when someone's in momentum I have another client I'm thinking of. That's just on fire, everything's rolling.

Speaker 2 6:28

It doesn't mean it's easy. Being in momentum means you're basically people are lashing out. Occasionally You're overwhelmed as hell. You're having to say no to things you used to say yes to. There's usually a lot of people that might be frustrated with you or annoyed, and you're doing a lot, so it's hard to keep the quality of work high. But you're in momentum and you can feel it and it's awesome and you just got to sustain it as long as possible and stay super humble. You got to stay super humble, and I'm talking to myself on that one too. So this podcast, next Level University. We never would have met either of those two people that I'm referring to, who have become very amazing, meaningful relationships in my life, if we weren't able to sustain this podcast, if we weren't able to be consistent, if we weren't able to improve this new on YouTube. If you're watching on YouTube, you can see that Kevin and I have side profiles now. It's actually one of the very few YouTube improvements that I've come up with.

Speaker 1 7:24

Yeah, yeah, but we've improved a ton.

Speaker 2 7:26

If you go back to the first episode versus now, the thumbnails are different. Everything and then so scalable. So Kevin and I can talk to thousands of people all over the world with one half hour of our time Unbelievable, and it is longevity. How long can we do this? We're only seven years in.

Speaker 2 7:45

I told this client earlier. I said we're just a toddler. This person has three kids. I said how old are your kids? She said one's 20, one's 14, one's 12. I think it was maybe 20, 12, and eight.

Speaker 2 7:56

But I said, okay, the 20-year-old girl or boy? She said girl. I said okay, imagine her at seven. I said that's us and I'll use just a little toddler running around. She's like whoa, I've never thought about it like that. I said well, that's how a business works. It's just no one knows you yet. It's okay.

Speaker 2 8:15

And, by the way, you're only one. You're ahead of the game. You just don't know it. You're only one years old. You can't expect big results when you're one years old. One years old, I don't even know if you can crawl yet. I don't know anything about child rearing, but it's a good metaphor, I think, and so I told her. I said if you can stick with this level of momentum, if this is sustainable and you can do it. Long-term business is staying power. But life is staying power fitness. If you can stay injury free, you're better off. You're way better off, because a lot of times what happens is you push it and then you get injured and then you're out of the gym for a month and then it's another couple months before you get back into it, back in the swing. You fall off your diet. I think a lot of life is momentum and staying power and I really do believe that. But it's boring and I understand why people miss that well, doesn't it feel?

Momentum and staying power

Speaker 1 9:09

doesn't? Doesn't momentum come from the feeling of the lack of momentum? You feel like what I'm doing is creating zero momentum, and then it almost again I'm going to gently use these words, but I don't mean it the way it's going to sound it almost then gets easy. It seems easy. What's a good way? If we think about momentum, you know me, I'm always thinking in visual. I think of a train. You think of a train. You say that all the time the train's got momentum. You think of a train. You say that all the time the train's got momentum. Imagine a train that's going one mile an hour that hits a car. It's going to stop. It's going to stop that train. Imagine a train that hits a car when the train is going 100 miles an hour. It is going to literally blow through that car and that car is going to cease to exist. Will it slow down? Yeah, a little bit, not really, not nearly Almost not at all actually Right.

Speaker 1 10:02

Well, I don't know. I don't know enough about mass times acceleration.

Speaker 2 10:05

F equals MA Force, equals mass times, acceleration. Well done, whatever, thank you so much. Yeah, no, I know things I actually learned that on my one-hour flight from the east coast to the west coast.

Speaker 1 10:19

Actually, I took some extra time when you time traveled, when I time traveled that's kind of how I think of it. It seems easier. There was a a season and I'm back in the season and I can already feel the momentum, which is weird. But there was a season where I was going on 10 podcasts a week at least and then people were just. I remember Alan and I were on stage at a speech and I got an email from someone who said hey, do you? I need to work with you guys. You remember how you came on my podcast and we talked about working together. It's time. I'm ready to do it, let's do it now.

Speaker 1 10:51

And it was one of those moments I told Alan. I said this is so weird. We're getting paid to speak on stage and somebody's literally trying to send me money through an email. What a weird thing. But so much of that. That momentum was based on stuff that had been done for years prior months prior maybe, but definitely years prior. But that's the hard thing about momentum. The hard thing about momentum is it comes from the stuff that almost doesn't seem like it's doing anything and again, I'm as guilty of this as anybody and if you don't recognize it, it's very easy to sabotage. Sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 2 11:28

No, don't be sorry, it's all good. You can always tell by my mouth movements.

Speaker 1 11:32

You get excited, you were like, and then I shut you down gently, no, no, you came to me. I don't know how many shows had you been on before you came to me I was like, dude, this isn't working. Oh, I don't know. Um, I don't know. Probably, like I would say at that time, it was probably like a hundred shows in of doing, because I had been on shows before but we had never really made a concerted effort, so I'd say like a hundred probably okay, so kev comes in.

Speaker 2 12:09

At one point you were doing 20 a week on top of ours, so it was definitely burning you out. I remember those days and I was like, yeah, let's push it, let's absolutely let's push it. Shout out to laura that wouldn't have been doable without laura's consistency. Most consistent player in the game, laura shout out, thousands of shout out, unbelievable.

Speaker 1 12:29

She has a hundred percent streak going right now, like you used to, on her ppt shout out, to shout out to you laura go, don't stop, don't ever stop, because you may never, ever get it back. Don't ever. It's not a small system either.

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Speaker 2 12:42

I think she's got like 20 habits, but anyways, so super inspiring. You came and you were like, dude, this isn't working. And I was like brother, it's only been three months. And you're like, yeah, I'm going on 20 shows a week, this is brutal. Like, yeah, I'm going on 20 shows a week, this is brutal, it's not working. And I said, trust me, no-transcript. I think he came to me complaining in Q2 of last year and in Q3, we got 19 new podcast production clients from all of the amazing relationships that you built, of all these podcasters who want to grow their show and have an impact. And, dude, if I had let you stop the train man, that would be so bad. Well, you need a conductor. I think that's. Stop the train man, that would be so bad Well you need a conductor.

Speaker 1 13:36

I think that's one of the beautiful things and this isn't a plug for coaching, it is whatever but that's not my intention. You kind of need a conductor. You need a conductor to say you have momentum, even though you don't know it, you're making progress, even though it doesn't feel like it, you're closing the distance faster than you think you are. But if you've never I never experienced momentum like that, so I didn't know. I said that right during this episode. I feel it.

Speaker 1 14:03

Now I'm out here hammering podcasts and it is awesome, and I'm sending messages and talking to people and getting consultations and people are like I want to pay you for this. It's like this is awesome, great, love it. But it's my mentality around. It is different. Now it's most of this won't. You won't see any result of this for a while, but it's not even about that. Just do it, just do the process, just do the process, just do the process, just do the process, just do the process, just do the process, just do the process and just do the process. And everything else is almost gravy. I'm not even really thinking about it. How many more times?

Do the process...

Speaker 2 14:39

can you say just do the process, do the process, do the process and then you'll gain momentum? The person I was on with right before this is a coaching client with kevin and myself. I already mentioned that we met her by me going on her show. What if I had said no to that show? I thought it was me. Huh, I thought it was me. I thought it was me. Mm-mm, I honestly dude, I don't know. I think it is.

Speaker 1 15:04

It might have been Because I remember saying dude, I hope you go on the show. She's the sweetest. Yeah, you can't. Let you take credit for that Dude.

Speaker 2 15:10

Honestly, man, I know, I know, I know I care about truth, though I do, I care about truth. Yeah, for me, I got to tell you. Yeah, you got to.

Speaker 1 15:17

Because you'll be saying that forever that will be a core story, forever, yeah. And then I'll be like, well, that's not how it really works.

Speaker 2 15:26

No, I appreciate it, I need accurate. But what if Kevin had not felt like serving that day? What if he had a tough morning and missed the meeting? You just never know? And you posted in Next Level Nation recently, our private Facebook group hey, where did you find Next Level University? That was so cool to see how all these years of exposure have built such a cool community of like-minded people.

Speaker 2 15:51

But I want everyone to understand this all along the way, it felt like invisible progress. Yeah, there was very little noticeable progress for many, many, many years, many moons. And it still feels and this is goes back to the episode we did yesterday, today, but it dropped yesterday which is I feel like I'm doing too much and not enough. The not enough is I feel like nothing's working. I feel like I'm not making progress. I feel, even in this 10 pound and 10 week challenge that we're doing shout out to everyone in that it doesn't feel like I'm making progress. But then, every now and then, I'll have a workout where I'll be like whoa, that's different. Okay, so this is working, but that's what once every two weeks maybe in terms of the in terms of the way you look.

Speaker 1 16:45

Yeah, the way I look, the way I look or the way I feel strength as well.

The power of building momentum

Speaker 2 16:48

Same deal. I mean everything's kind of that way it's. I joke, I say it's like an orchid that blooms and dies on the same day, but but that moment of achievement, I think that's so meaningful. That's my favorite thing in the world, one of my favorite things in the world. Emilia is my favorite thing in the world. But it's one of my favorite things in the world. To have that moment of that was a dream At one point. That was just a dream. You and I had that moment on stage. That one time. I was waiting for years for that moment and we looked at each other and you gave me the nod and it was remember when we talked about this and then we got our asses kicked yes we did so the same day was a dream come true and the worst training we've ever given.

Speaker 2 17:34

Yeah, of course when I say we, I mean me, yeah, yeah yeah, I was just, I was kind of like assisting the slaughter.

Speaker 1 17:42

You know, gosh, that was brutal, that was absolutely brutal. Momentum's an interesting thing it is, but you can't get momentum without action. I feel like I have a ton of momentum in fitness, even though I don't know. I think I'm on track with my weight, but I don't feel different. I look a little bit different, but not really. No, if I'm being honest, not really.

Speaker 1 18:09

I took my shirt off today when I finished my workout. I was in the locker room and I was like, let me take a peek. And I was happy. I was like, okay, we're going to be okay, but it wasn't. Whoa, the last three weeks have really done it. No, no, they've done something, of course, yeah, and I have. I feel like I have a ton of momentum. I'm tracking my, I'm tracking macros, I'm tracking calories, I'm prepping food. I did cardio the other day. That is momentum, momentum, momentum, momentum, momentum. And it feels really good when you have momentum. I think one of the downsides. And then we what time is it? I'm going to get out of here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we got to get out of here. I think one of the downsides potentially is when you have momentum. You don't realize you have momentum and then you stop doing it and then you lose it. It's really hard to start again.

Speaker 2 18:56

It's either low awareness or it's lack of humility.

Speaker 1 18:59

For me it's lack of humility. It's very disheartening if it's low awareness.

Speaker 2 19:05

Yeah, because if you don't understand how quickly you can lose momentum, that can be really devastating. Honestly, I was talking to Amelia about this yesterday. I know we got to go. I said I would rather, because I almost tweaked my knee. I was doing leg press and I was doing progressive overload and essentially I'm in a cut, I'm eating less, I didn't hydrate super well, excuse, excuse, excuse. And I put on an extra plate feeling myself, and then the last couple reps I was like, oh right, knee, that's the first time I felt that in a minute.

Low awareness

Speaker 2 19:39

And then the old me. I told her on the drive home. I said the old me would have put, put a couple more reps after the tweak. And the new me is older and wiser and I was. I immediately racked it. I was like done. And then I iced last night while watching uh, the first hobbit movie, eating all the food.

Speaker 2 20:00

But what was my point of that? Oh, I said on the way home I feel a ton of momentum in fitness because we've been exercising consistently for two and a quarter years. I feel the momentum. That was the first time I felt injury prone tendency in a long time because I've also been doing mobility for six months. But I said I would rather get better by 1% per week over time than do 20% and then negative 20% and then positive 20% and then negative 20% and then positive 40% and then negative 50%. This whole injury yourself and then be out of the gym for a month thing. I'm really trying to be done with that. I would really prefer to just be slow and steady. The tortoise always wins the race and I'm working really hard on that. In business, in life, in my relationship, in fitness. Yeah, it's boring, it's the unsexy fundamentals, but it does work. If you can hang it works. It's really cool If you can hang it works.

Speaker 1 21:01

It's really cool and when you build momentum, everything gets again. It doesn't get easier per se, but you get opportunities. You get things that come out of the woodwork that you didn't expect. I think that's a really good way to do it. Like we have momentum and then Evan asked me to go to Toronto. That wasn't something I planned on and then he asked me to do another speech on July 4th. That's just because we have momentum in a lot of different arenas. That's all all right. We gotta go because we are going to record another episode before our next calls. If we were speaking to and about next level nation, if you're looking for a group of awesome humans who are as growth driven as you click the link in the show notes, we'll have the private facebook group link there. Next level nation a great place for you. What do you have for the, for the humans, jeff?

Speaker 2 21:43

congratulations to group 14. Huge shout out today to all of group 14 inspired impact. Amy, kevin and I are so proud of you. Your team name was inspired impact and that's exactly what you were. You all inspired so many people and made a huge impact on others, us included. Thank you again for these last 90 amazing days and we're excited to see you all continue to launch into q3 and beyond with flying colors. And for anyone out there who doesn't want to fall for the summer distractions that derail you from your momentum and your goals, dm me now to join us for julyth Group 15 starts. Book your spot now. The link will be in the show notes. And again, we only ever take 10 people per quarter the summer.

Speaker 2 22:30

It's really hard to stay consistent in the summer. There's two times of the year that I struggle with because I feel like a lot of people are not as productive and it bothers me because I always want to be. It's the holidays and it's the summer. I feel like we derail ourselves so much in the holidays and the summer and I get that a lot of people want to do that. But if you don't want to let that happen to you, if you don't want to lose momentum this summer group coaching. We will stay consistent, steadfast. It doesn't mean we're going to kill ourselves. It doesn't mean we're not going to enjoy ourselves. It means we're going to stay steadfast for all of Q3.

Speaker 1 23:06

We had somebody who shared in Next Level Nation. They lost, I think, 18 pounds during the three months of group coaching and they are the most consistent they've been. So that is a really good testimonial and we appreciate that.

Speaker 2 23:18

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