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#1820 - The Relationship Between Belief and Humility

• Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros

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Do you ever wonder if believing in yourself could make you seem arrogant? In today’s episode, Kevin and Alan examine the surprising relationship between self-belief and humility. Is it possible to have both without losing balance? They share personal stories and practical tips to help you stay grounded while pursuing your goals. Discover how self-awareness, confidence, and humility can help you stay consistent and grow up!

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Show notes:
(3:41) Meet-up and the “Consistency Star” framework
(5:01) Insights on belief vs. humility
(7:27) Self-belief’s role in momentum
(12:52) Arrogance and losing consistency
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Speaker 1

I'm different when we're speaking on stage because I'm not as confident. I have less reps. I'm not as competent, Truthfully. I'm not as competent as a stage speaker as I am in my studio.

Speaker 2

This is my comfort zone.

Speaker 1

I feel really good here.

Speaker 2

For the listeners. Which one do you struggle with? More self-belief or humility? Because most likely the strength of one is potentially the other one's a weakness, because it is easy to stay humble when you don't believe in yourself. I think it's easier.

Speaker 1

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Speaker 1

Welcome to Next Level University, Next Level Nation. Welcome back to another episode of Next Level University, where we help you level up your life, your love, your health and your wealth. Today, for episode number 1,820, the Relationship Between Belief and Humility, I recorded a Podcast Growth U episode right before this and it's always weird to do two different podcasts in the same day, because it's completely weird to do two different podcasts in the same day because it's completely different openings. Yeah, and I had a minute where I was like am I on the right podcast? Am I saying the right thing? Did I?

Speaker 2

say I am the opener of the conscious couples podcast how strongly do you do? It. I mean better than you. For sure you think so. No, no, not necessarily. I was being playful. What is the opening?

Speaker 1

He doesn't even know the opening.

Speaker 2

I don't know if I can this isn't the environment that I'm in. It's so interesting.

Speaker 1

Mine is Podcast Growth Nation. Welcome back to another episode of Podcast Growth University, where we talk all things podcasting all the time cool.

Speaker 2

All right, let me see if I got this hold on just a little bit about me conscious couples and singles from all over the world.

Speaker 2

Welcome back to another very special episode of the conscious couples podcast. Today, for episode number 135, is your partner out here, a Jeffin Nice. That's strong, as always. And then I do an NLPS plug, because NLPS is awesome Next Level Podcast Solutions. If you want to start, grow, scale and monetize your podcasts, reach out to Next Level Podcast Solutions. I sound way less corny when I do it, and then I say, as always, sweetheart, what is your intention for this episode? Ladies first, Strong work.

Speaker 2

this episode, ladies, first strong work, and then she says her intention, and then it's off to the races and I pretty much talked all the time.

Speaker 1

Understandable, speaking of off to the races and you talking the whole time. You wanted to tell the story about why we're doing today's episode. So the floor and the mic is yours all right.

Speaker 2

So, and for those of you who are conscious couples podcast listeners, I do not talk the whole time. I'm'm being playful, although I'm sure I get more than 50%, most likely. All right. So why are we doing this episode? Last night, we had an awesome meetup. Shout out to all the listeners who did come. Community members, thank you, thank you, thank you. I did not expect that showing. That was great. I think we had 16, 17 people at the peak.

Insights on belief vs. humility

Speaker 2

We did a meet up on the top five things that you need need in order to be consistent, and kevin and I opened it saying listen, we are not great at a lot of stuff, but we are super consistent when we want to be, when we need to be, and we figured this out. So origin story about this framework. So the framework is called the consistency star. It's a five-pointed star, super simple. Consistency is at the center, with a star, and there's five things. The first one is belief. The second one is humility. The third one is sustainability. The fourth one is adaptability. The fifth one is grit. Fourth one is adaptability. The fifth one is grit. And from all the coaching that I've done metrics, habits, goals, people all over the world, industries, all stuff, the people who are the most consistent are the people who win the most in the long run. And this consistency star, by the way, we'll put a digital asset in the show notes. If you want this. It'll be a Google Drive free downloadable resource. Check in. Which of these do you struggle with? Which of these are you good at? Because ultimately, I have one client I'm thinking of, the grit is the problem, and so if he doesn't develop grit, he's not going to be able to be as consistent as is necessary for him to achieve his goals.

Speaker 2

But the point of this episode is about the first two belief and humility. I had a breakthrough on yesterday's meetup, right in the middle of the presentation, where I was like I gotta stop saying like I thought to myself whoa belief and humility, the higher your self-belief is, it's very hard to stay humble when you believe in yourself a ton, and so I often joke. I say I finally figured out 35 years later why everyone thinks I'm arrogant. It's because if I have level 10 self-belief and only level 8 humility, I'm going to appear level 2 arrogant. And I do think that's the case because I work on building self-belief a lot more unconsciously than I do humility, and that's why I have humility on my whiteboard in my office.

Speaker 2

But here's what happens, and I know we've all been here to some extent. To some extent you start going, you believe in yourself to at least enough to get started. All right, maybe you start at level one, self-belief, and you start to roll. Then you take messy action and then you get some results going, get some results going and then you believe in yourself, maybe at two, and then you start taking level two action and then you get level two results and then you start taking level three action and then it snowballs and then eventually you reach a certain level where you get a little bit cocky at least I do and then all of a sudden you lose your humility and you start to get what I call shiny object syndrome. You start to get all these new opportunities that you never had before, because when you're in momentum, people are. Everyone wants to jump on a moving train.

Speaker 2

That's the analogy, the metaphor here, and so when you lose your humility, you lose sight of the fundamentals that you were doing to get you to the dance. Kevin and I have used this quote more him than me but you don't get to keep dancing if you stop doing what got you to the dance. And the duality here that's so challenging is you do have to give up some of the person's places, things and ideas at the previous level in order to get to the next level. So how do you know what to keep, how do you know what to let go of? And the question that we have for everybody here today is how do you believe in yourself more and more and more and more and more and more and more? And as you become more consistent and keep the promises you make to yourself and start achieving your goals and starting gaining success, how do you not lose humility? Because it seems like self-belief and humility are the hardest things to have simultaneously, which is why I think so many people are not consistent.

Speaker 1

So we were trying to figure out and again, I don't know, I don't have the answer to this I feel like self-belief makes a lot of sense and self-worth makes more sense than it ever has. When it comes to building humility or the things that really aid in humility. Self-awareness, self-worth and accurate comparison Nice work Are the three things that we came up with for the meetup, and again we have to flesh it out and see if it makes sense. Right, the thing about humility is nobody really can tell you whether or not you're humble. Only you really know, because only you really know how much you actually believe in yourself. Not you, the collective you.

Speaker 1

Unless it's somebody who let's put it this way maybe right. I'm not saying this is a law. The person must have more self-belief than you for them to identify whether or not you actually have real humility. Because if you don't, how would I know whether or not you're humble? If you have more belief than I do, how would I know? You're going to seem arrogant to me, probably forever, that never lands, because for me I'm sure it does.

Speaker 2

For other people I have no idea. This is a breakthrough. I'll ask you this, instead of me coming off as cocky here how many rooms do you think I've been in where the other person genuinely believes in themselves more than I do?

Speaker 1

Long jump. I don't know if oh man, maybe one, two, emilia is one.

Speaker 2

Yeah, emilia, for sure she came up. Who's the other one?

Speaker 1

David Meltzer. Oh, okay, yeah, for sure she came up. Who's the other one, uh?

Speaker 2

david milter oh okay, yeah, uh, I don't agree with that grounded, grounded self-belief. I'm kidding, uh, but anyways. So I don't know if I know how to gauge that whatsoever, because kevin and I, over this journey, just to bring you behind the scenes, kevin and I would have three-person calls with certain people and he'd come to me and say, wow, I never saw that ego from that person and I was like kev, that's how that person always is with me, and I think I amplify a certain part of people and you don't. And vice versa. We trigger different people different ways. We've talked about that, but I don't. And vice versa. We trigger different people different ways. We've talked about that, but I don't know. And when you said no one can identify whether or not someone is being humble, that is the skill I want to master. I want to identify lack of humility in myself and others. That is a skill that I intend to master in my 30s. I need it.

Speaker 1

So I think you can do it with yourself. I just think it's really hard to do with others I feel like I'm getting better at it.

Speaker 2

I think I can tell when people are being arrogant. I never used to be able to tell because for all I knew it was self-belief, but the opposite of arrogance isn't necessarily humility, because somebody can be self-deprecating and that's not humble either.

Speaker 1

Yeah, that's why I think it's so hard, because if you have a If I know I have a level seven confidence, hypothetically, then I know, all right, if I have a level seven humility, then it should come off grounded.

Speaker 2

Yeah, centered, centered. I think centered is a great word, because if you have level seven confidence to the right, and then it's balanced for lack of a better phrasing with level seven humility, on the other end, it's like a seesaw.

Speaker 1

You're centered yeah.

Speaker 2

And I do feel like you can tell when someone's centered. That's why I playfully laughed with the david melzer thing and again, I'm not. I'm not gonna say anything negative about david melzer. I I I think he helped us a lot, I do for sure, but some of that was the lulu in my opinion I think there was some stuff, a lot of a lot of the stuff.

Speaker 1

I just it didn't land for me. It it's like I don't know about some of this.

Speaker 2

Yeah. I think some of it wasn't centered.

Speaker 1

Would you say that's fair? Yeah, I would say that's fair, yeah.

Speaker 2

And then this plot thickens a lot and, again, scary to share some of this. But I think a lot of people think they believe in themselves a lot more than they really do, because there's the conscious, subconscious and the unconscious. And so when I talk about self-belief, I'm talking about your deepest beliefs, because I'm thinking of someone right now I'll keep it anonymous but she thinks she doesn't believe in herself almost at all. I'm telling you right now she has high self-belief, yeah. And then there's someone else I'm thinking of who thinks she believes in herself a ton but doesn't, and deep down doesn't at all. And that's why a lot of times there's very little walk behind the scenes to their talk. It's like the person who plays safe in their real life but talks a big game. And when you say grounded confidence, I think what you mean is in the real world, meaning action is taken.

Speaker 1

I don't think I have a lot of.

Speaker 2

I think I have more external confidence than I do internal confidence and then it gets even more complex, which is I think you have more confidence in who you are than you do in your ability to achieve, and I think I have more confidence in my ability to achieve than I do in who I am, although I do think that's shifting which?

Speaker 1

is nice.

Speaker 2

And I think it's shifting for you too. How ironic. As Kevin believes in his ability to achieve more, I'm believing in my who. I am more. My therapist, carol, she said you're so much more confident and I was. I was taken back. I'm sitting there going. I don't think anyone's ever said that to me before. Was I not confident before? Because no one's ever called me out for being lacking confidence. She said no, I mean in who you are as a person, like internally, whoa? And again, I think that's self-belief versus self-worth. Self-belief, I think, is confidence in external achievement. I think self-worth is confidence in who you are as a person. And again, this is getting very esoteric, but I love it Same. Esoteric, but I love it same. Let me ask you this. I wanted to ask you this at the beginning can you come up with an example where you got arrogant and lost consistency because of it? Because you lost humility? Yeah, where did you lose humility and then lose consistency because of it?

Speaker 1

Probably reviewing the podcast. I think one of the reasons I don't review the podcast like I used to is because I don't think I need to transparently.

Speaker 2

And is that accurate or arrogant?

Speaker 1

Both I think it's probably a bit of both. Yeah, I think it's what's the split. I don't think it's. I did it for a long time and I think it was good, but I don't think it was as beneficial for me now as it would have been for me in the beginning. Fair.

Speaker 2

Yeah, the percent improvements are probably smaller. Yeah, but they compound too, right? So I think about that all the time.

Speaker 1

I just don't think it's the best use of time.

Speaker 2

It's very challenging too.

Speaker 1

Right, that's the thing is okay. What am I taking away to do that? So, instead of doing 30 minutes of learning, I'll listen to 30 minutes of nlu every day. Cool, that's, that's definitely a possibility. Learn from us, learn from yeah, learn from myself essentially listening to myself say what I said.

Speaker 1

maybe I always give that advice to early podcasters because I think I think it's super important, but because to your point, I think you'll have more percentage change in the beginning. Oh, I didn't realize how much I said like, or it's almost like. That's something I say.

Speaker 2

I don't know if I've ever listened to the show and not had an improvement.

Speaker 1

I think you'll always have improvements. It's just a matter of would the other improvement be more beneficial?

Speaker 2

Yeah, that's a great question. Now you're talking like a mathematician my friend, I know right, but I would say that's probably one.

Speaker 1

For me is, if I felt like I wasn't good at this, I probably would review more. If I felt like I was digressing. Is that going backwards For you?

Speaker 2

you probably lost consistency more with lack of self-belief than with humility. For me, it's probably humility, because I struggle with humility. More you struggle with self-belief, more Makes sense.

Speaker 1

Usually I feel like when I'm getting the result, I want to do it more. When I'm getting a result, I want to do it more. When I'm getting a result, I want to do it more. When I'm on my shit with fitness, I want to do fitness more. As I get leaner and leaner, I want to do it more and I want to do it more and I want to do it more because I'm seeing the results. Right now I'm struggling. I'm not struggling. I'm definitely not as ignited as I was when we were doing the 10 pound in 10 week challenge, because after we did the 10 pound in 10 week challenge, I did a week of maintenance and I ended up at like 173.

Speaker 2

Maintenance is not as motivating? Yeah, because it's. You're not seeing any.

Speaker 1

I felt like I was going backwards. It's not as exciting.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Yeah. So now I'm really on it and I'm weighing myself every day and I've been tracking my calories and macros, but it just hasn't been as serious. This week has been very serious, but I just haven't been as motivated in the gym, just because I don't feel like I'm on my shit right now.

Speaker 2

NLU listener what is happening? I just wanted to jump in here and let you know if you want to get to the next level faster. We have a free virtual monthly meetup at the first Thursday of every month. You can connect with like-minded people and become a bigger part of this amazing global community. The link to register will be in the show notes For the listeners. Which one do you struggle with? More self-belief or humility? Because most likely, the strength of one is potentially the other one's a weakness, because it is easy to stay humble when you don't believe in yourself. I think it's easier.

Speaker 1

Like when you're doubting yourself. I don't think it's humble, I think it's self-deprecation yeah, but when?

Speaker 2

I what I mean by that?

Speaker 1

what are indicators?

Speaker 2

what are, yeah, what are indicators of humility? Be prepared.

Speaker 2

You're much more prepared, you're more on time, you, you yeah, yeah because whenever emilia and I we, I we had an event our last Relationship Talks event was on the 25 Conscious Love Languages and I kept saying all week oh babe, don't worry, that's our bread and butter. Never say that. Whenever I say anything like that, prepare for failure. It was again our biggest L now is better than our old best. So we've. It wasn't terrible, but we got off it going and we assessed in the experience review. We went for a walk and okay, what went wrong? I know what went wrong, what went wrong. I figured it would be easy and anytime I think anything's going to be easy. I always take an l and when I say take an ally, everybody, I I think everybody has a process.

Speaker 1

I think you'll always think it's going to go easier. It's going to be easier than it is.

Speaker 2

That's because of lack of humility. I believe in myself more than I should.

Speaker 1

That's but your standards In the micro your standards are also super high, so even if it did go well, you'd find a way to tear it apart. But aren't standards?

Speaker 1

a reflection of self-belief yeah, but this is one of those things where you're the anomaly more than I think you realize. Oh, it's almost, it doesn't. I don't think it equates the same. Last night we did the monthly meetup. You realize, oh, it's almost, it doesn't. I don't think it equates the same. Last night we did the monthly meetup and the least amount of prep we've ever done for a monthly meetup, fair to say.

Speaker 2

Definitely.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I wrote it in my journal. It went really well.

Speaker 2

It went really, really, really well. Next level dreamliner. Shout out to the dreamliner well, this is the 1.0, but the 2.0 is out. Now it is most important win. The meetup went incredibly well without massive time and effort. Yeah, most important improvement figure out our next meetup topic way in advance.

Speaker 1

Work on filler words I don't know if I don't know yet this. A lot of this is still a mystery to me. Because I was over before. I thought I needed to prepare for three hours for a podcast interview. That wasn't true. I didn't need to prepare for three hours. Yeah, agreed. That doesn't mean I don't have to prepare at all now, agreed. I think humility is finding the accurate thing. It's not from a place of fear, but not from a place of arrogance. It's from a place of power. Last night, I felt very powered. I don't feel like we were arrogant for not prepping. I don't. Empowered. I don't feel like we were arrogant for not prepping. I don't.

Speaker 2

I genuinely don't.

Speaker 1

You mean empowered, you felt empowered. Empowered or powered meaning I feel like I'm coming from a place of truth. I feel like I'm in an accurate. I knew we were going to crush it last night. I was certain of it, I knew it. I don't understand how you know that, because I'm actually confident.

Speaker 2

It's because I'm always confident, so I know that doesn't equate at all for me.

Speaker 1

Very rarely does my confidence bite me in the butt, because I'm very rarely confident. Okay, where?

Speaker 2

where I had a moment pre-prep where I said to myself oh, we are in trouble. I had to really pull out out some stuff Because Kev was a little behind the scenes. Kev was working on client delivery stuff. So we get on the meeting. We have an hour to prep. We use 20 minutes of it to talk business. We had 39 minutes left and 19 of those you were doing client stuff.

Speaker 1

And.

Speaker 2

I was asking you for photos and keep in mind there's five different parts of this digital asset and we hook story lesson future pace question. We want to have a compelling event. There was a moment during that where I was Alan. We need you. This is Emil and I have something called SEAL Team. It means game time. One time our cat accidentally drank water from the bottom of a glass and then the glass shattered and she had shattered glass all around her neck. It was awful and it was SEAL team, meaning stop everything you're doing. We need to get this glass off Tower Eel's neck. She didn't even know anything was wrong.

Speaker 1

Oh, she doesn't care. Yeah, she doesn't care at all.

Speaker 2

So it could have been a bloody mess, it could have been horrible, but SEAL team go. So it was a seal team moment for me of Kev, we're screwed if I don't pull it together right now and I need you and you were super confident. It makes sense.

Speaker 1

Of course I'm going to go the other way with it. How many times have you been overly humble and it has bitten you in the butt? Never, I think that's because it's I don't think I've ever been overly humble.

Speaker 2

I need to be more humble. I think I can tell you a lot of times where I was arrogant and it bit me in the butt, I'm sure.

Speaker 1

But just like I can tell you a lot of times where I was under, I was lacking confidence and it bit me in the butt.

Speaker 2

Yeah, makes sense.

Speaker 1

That's the thing is. I don't know if you could ever possibly be too humble. That's why it's so hard to have both of these.

Speaker 2

That's one of the reasons why is humility even on the consistency star. Sorry to interrupt you, but you need to be humble enough to set yourself up for enough success that you can actually stick with it. It's not humble to say I'm going to go to the gym six days a week, three hours a day. That's not humble, you're not going to be consistent.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I agree, it's humble if you can do it?

Speaker 2

Who can do that? A professional athlete who doesn't do anything else? Yeah, but that I mean. Or a couple of podcaster bros. A couple of podcaster bros in 2018 2019.

Speaker 1

All I'm saying is it's very, very hard to ever take it even me saying what I said, I realized there is a potential of a subset of humans out there that would say wait, you didn't prep and you felt like you were good enough and it was going to go really well. That will come off as arrogant to some people. That will not seem super humble to some people, right.

Speaker 2

Do you think it was?

Speaker 1

humble. I think I was accurate. Yeah, I think I was accurate. I used to be so afraid before every single monthly meetup, terrified. I'm not anymore. It's going to be fine, just be myself. And yeah, we prep, but I have so much prep, like you don't have to. When you go get in the car, you don't have to think okay, left down is blinker to left, right, left up is blinker to right. Here's where my gas is's what? Okay, this is how I put it. Mirrors are good. No, you've done you've. How many thousands of hours have you been driving a car? You don't? Now does that mean you should get on the highway and do a buck 20 while texting? No, that is arrogant. But if you're a race car driver, you're to be way better at that than I am, yeah. So I think it's really hard to recognize humility externally, because in order to recognize humility, I think you have to know where somebody's level of self-belief is.

Speaker 2

Not just self-belief, but competence, competence, competence.

Speaker 1

If, when I said that, if when I said, yeah, we didn't prep that much, but I knew we were going to knock it out of the park, if there was a piece of you whether you're watching or listening that thought that was arrogant of me. I can understand. You just don't know how comfortable I am speaking, that's all. Yeah, that's it. I would not have felt that way if we were getting on stage. I would have been shatting. It wouldn't have been good. I would have been terrified. I'm different when we're speaking on stage, because I'm not as confident Because you have less reps. I have less reps. I'm not as competent, truthfully. I'm not as competent as a stage speaker as I am in my studio. This is my comfort zone. I feel really good here. So I think that's why it's so hard. I don't know if anybody ever I don't know if anybody ever could know how humble you actually are, because your self-belief is going to trigger them. You know what's.

Speaker 2

I think that is a breakthrough, because I've told this story before, I don't want to overdo it. But Emilia came to me she said You're the most humble man I've ever met. This was early in our relationship, probably a year in no-transcript. And she said Alan, that's exactly what a humble man would say.

Speaker 1

And I was like see, I don't agree with that.

Speaker 2

Really no. What would a humble man say?

Speaker 1

Thank you so much. I've worked very diligently on staying accurate and I never thought of that until we did this episode, because I've heard you say that story a million times, so I haven't been holstering this like hell. Yeah, this is the time. And I never thought of that until we did this episode, because I've heard you say that story a million times, so I haven't been holstering this like hell.

Speaker 2

Yeah, this is the time I didn't know, but after that I started questioning. Am I more humble than people think?

Speaker 1

She believes in herself as much, if not more, than you do. I know that's what it is.

Speaker 2

That's what it is, and again, I'm not going to lie, I know that's what it is. And again, I'm not going to lie. There are certain people. I know who. I'm certain I'm more humble than, but it would never look that way 100%, because I'm so much more competent than they are.

Speaker 1

I think you're very humble. I think you're very humble. It just doesn't look like it.

Speaker 2

Why I need to know. I know we need to make this for the listeners, but I need this Well.

Speaker 1

I think lessons like this are for everyone. I think there's something in this for everyone, even if it's just reflecting on the conversation.

Speaker 2

I feel that when you say it, I do feel it inside.

Speaker 1

Because what you're saying is not bullshit. You're not saying you don't say things that you don't actually think you can do. That You're not. It's. You're not saying I you in this scenario, I, alan Lazarus am going to create the most successful self-improvement company in terms of impact on the planet. And then going and playing golf on the weekends. You're working 80, 90 hours a week to make sure that happens. You actually do have level 10 self-belief. You actually do have more self-belief than anybody I've ever met in my life. It's not close, maybe other than Emilia and D Meltzer. That I think it would require, just like it doesn't make sense because people do think I have a lot of self-belief. You know you have a more accurate understanding of how much self-belief I have than anybody else on the planet other than me.

Speaker 1

Because you've seen me behind the scenes, I think it's also because I have higher self-belief. I think that's a piece of it.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I know people that think they believe in themselves more than you. No chance, but you belief I can. I think that's a piece of it.

Speaker 1

yeah, I know people that think they believe in themselves more than you. No chance. But you have higher self-belief so you can recognize that. But you also seen me in moments where it's like I think now you're able to reflect and say how the hell did kevin do that?

Speaker 2

now, knowing how much I know that he didn't believe in anything you used to fake that you did have it, but you didn't know what you had to yeah, I no, you had to exactly, and now I can recognize when it's fake.

Speaker 1

I never used to be able to, so that all this is kind of wonky I don't know what the, I don't know what the main lesson is, but the more I good I think there are tells, for I used to call, I used to say humility in action we have to go back in the

Speaker 2

hyperconscious days two minutes, I gotta hop, I gotta call. I think there are tells for you. I used to call. I used to say humility and action. We have to hop in the hyperconscious days. Two minutes, I got to hop, I got to call Okay, humility and action. I used to say, and what I meant by that is if I didn't have humility, I wouldn't read books every day, I wouldn't take courses. I was taking a course earlier called Insane Productivity. I can authentically say this as scary as it is, I would say holistically I'm the most productive person I've ever personally met. Holistically, and I've said that to Emilia too, even though she's next Holistically productive, I still take court. I've taken this insane productivity course 50 times. It's 12 modules. I listened to three of them today let me ask you a question.

Speaker 1

This is because this is where this is where I think it happens. Most people might think that's arrogant. Hold on hold, on hold on hold on how many of your clients who you have added value into their lives and they've actually got to see behind the scenes of how dialed in you are, how many of them would say yeah, I think that's probably accurate.

Speaker 2

I would say a lot of them yeah. I would say it's almost it would seem less arrogant the closer you got to me. Yeah, that's the difference.

Speaker 1

I would say it's almost, it would seem, less arrogant the closer you got to me.

Speaker 2

Yeah, that's the difference, because to some people that is going it forever will be arrogant, Even if it's true?

Speaker 1

Yes, yeah, because it's not. It's more the fact that it's offending me because of where I am than anything that you're saying. It's just a representation of my insecurities.

Speaker 2

You know what's weird? I actually want to. I know we got to go. It's just a representation of my insecurities. You know it's weird, I actually want to. I know we got to go. I want to find someone more productive than me holistically. That's my goal. I really do. I would love that. Well, you're looking at him, you son of a bitch. But seriously that I don't want to. I didn't. I don't want to be the best at productivity. I just. That's the truth. I care about the truth more than I care about not coming off as arrogant, and that's new.

Speaker 1

I think one of the reasons why self-belief and arrogance go hand in hand is because, yes, some people are not actually. They do not actually have the level of self-belief you think, the collective view, they are arrogant and they're delusional Slash. The people who really do have 10 out of 10 self-belief are very triggering to people and are. If you put 100 people in a room, 95 of them or 90 of them might think that that person's arrogant and they might create an arrogant reputation when that's not true.

Speaker 2

I think it's also an energy too, but we don't have time.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I think that's a piece of it too.

Speaker 2

Well, I'm going to develop humility, I know that more and more and more and more, because I'm certain I believe in myself more than I have humility, and I think that's the problem, to be honest maybe I don't know.

Speaker 1

I'm not on your end.

Speaker 2

For me, it's the issue I think that that would have. There's been a lot of times where I have been a little arrogant and it always bit me in the butt.

Speaker 1

Yeah, well same. I've been arrogant too. Anytime I get overly confident and things, but it usually recorrects. It course corrects pretty quickly because I don't like. It's a weird feeling, it's a dirty feeling, it's a very strange feeling. All right, we gotta.

Speaker 1

Group 16 of group coaching starts on october 8th at 5 pm eastern standard time. If you want to have cool, deep conversations like this behind the scenes, we have a lot of them in group coaching. I promise they are more guided than today's. Today we were just all over the place. This is more philosophy and philosophical than anything. But if you want to be the most confident, consistent, fulfilled version of yourself, I am convinced group coaching is the best place to do it. You and nine other people growing and evolving at your own rate, with Alan, myself and Amy leading the charge on that.

Outro

Speaker 1

A lot of self-awareness, but also a lot of support. If you use the code NLULISTENER at checkout, when you go to checkout there'll be a little coupon code section. It'll take 30% off. It ends up being $96 per month and you get four calls per month. So it's like $24 per call Again, very, very affordable, based on the fact that we want to make sure you can actually do it, enjoy it and not have to worry about where all the money is coming from. So link will be in the show notes. Alan still has one-on-one spots available. I am doing podcast breakthrough sessions for podcasters, as you know. We'll have those links in the show notes as well. As always, we love you, we appreciate you, grateful for each and every one of you, and at NLU we don't have fans, we have family. We will talk to you all tomorrow. Please reach out. Thanks for joining us for another episode of Next Level University.

Speaker 2

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Speaker 1

Thank you again and we will talk to you tomorrow.

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