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Exploring Courage PT2 (1973)

• Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros

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Personal growth starts with self-awareness. In today’s episode, Kevin and Alan discuss emotional maturity, self-awareness, and handling feedback. They also discuss the importance of knowing your strengths, accepting criticism, and staying accountable. Alan shares coaching insights on overconfidence while Kevin reflects on his fitness journey. They also touch on generational trauma and aligning goals with reality. A must-listen for anyone serious about growth!

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Show notes:
(5:01) The challenge of handling unsolicited advice
(7:05) Emotional maturity and processing feedback
(12:50) The importance of taking ownership
(16:41) At NLU, we want you to win! So, we’re giving tools and resources to ensure your success. Join our Monthly Meet-up every first Thursday of the month at 5 PM.
(18:03) Coaching, confidence, and honest self-assessment
(22:30) Understanding the right amount of feedback to give
(26:30) The reality of self-improvement and goal-setting
(31:38) Outro

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Kevin Palmieri:

I have very high standards, which means I also have very high awareness, which also means I have thicker skin. I'm good at fitness, so the feedback I get in fitness probably isn't going to offend me. Same with speaking If somebody, if you said to me okay, this, this, this, the things that you're the most competent in, you call yourself out in long before anybody else does.

Alan Lazaros:

So. Let's say, someone thinks they're top 1% intelligent and they're actually only 70%. And I'm trying to help them understand that you'd be better off if you just owned the 70% and then went and got smarter instead of thinking you know everything, especially in this coaching, because this isn't going to work. We're just button heads and if you don't think I know more than you, why are you hiring me? What are we doing here? Right, and again, I don't coach these people anymore, but in the past, it's been brutal.

Kevin Palmieri:

Welcome to Next Level University. I'm your host, Kevin Palmieri.

Alan Lazaros:

And I'm your co-host, Alan Lazarus.

Kevin Palmieri:

At.

Alan Lazaros:

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Alan Lazaros:

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Kevin Palmieri:

Welcome to Next Level University, next Level Nation. Welcome back to another episode of Next Level University where we help you level up your life, your love, your health and your wealth. I am wearing the smallest sweatshirt known to man. I bought this in Isle of Skye, scotland. I paid, I think, $30 for it Scottish and then I think we washed it when we got home and the Isle of Skye floated away, so you can't really see it, but this was an island at one point.

Alan Lazaros:

And I wanted to wear it today it's comfy, but god damn, it is tight, all right, cool, and I would say the long sleeve chronicles continue. Another. I'm pretty sure, yeah, that my mom's side of the family hails from scotland, and you know where, and ireland you know where ireland is, my my birth father's side, huh do you know where?

Kevin Palmieri:

And Ireland, no, ireland is my birth father's side, huh Do you know where in Scotland, no idea.

Alan Lazaros:

Apparently they had clans and there's a clan, because Emilia's from one of the clans, I guess the Gordon clan, or something, I don't know.

Kevin Palmieri:

I have no clue. I have no idea. Somebody asked me about Scotland yesterday. I was like I went there but I don't know anything.

Alan Lazaros:

She's doing a trauma certification that she just finished.

Kevin Palmieri:

Yeah.

Alan Lazaros:

And they have you go back through the generations, generational trauma. For anyone out there who's curious, look up generational trauma. It's a thing, it's mind-blowing.

Kevin Palmieri:

Anybody who's curious and you want to take a deep dive into thoughts and feelings?

Alan Lazaros:

Yeah, you want to take a deep dive into thoughts and feelings. Yeah, epigenetics is the idea that we pass down traits through our genetics, but also we can also shift them and change them. It's kind of like adaptation, eventually into evolution. But not only is it that, but it's also experiences. If there's a book called the body keeps the score it talks about if you have trauma, your body holds onto that trauma and then that creates cycles, patterns of behavior. That then alcoholism is a good example, right? So for me, my birth father's mother, my mom, is from Ireland. She's born in Ireland and in Ireland they like to drink. So there's definitely a tendency in my genetics for alcoholism. And that doesn't mean you're guaranteed to be an alcoholic or anything. It just means you have a predisposition to it. And if you're not aware of that stuff, you might feel not fully seen or understood, because I remember people being like oh well, oh well, alan, why don't you just have one? Oh, I hadn't fucking thought of that you don't have to have 12.

Alan Lazaros:

You could have I wish I had thought of that.

Kevin Palmieri:

Thank you so much for that, yeah well, that's always really good advice when somebody, when you go to someone and say like yeah, I'm really struggling with blank, and they just say like, have you ever thought of just not struggling with it? Like oh shit, wow, wow, wow, wow, it really circled the yeah, that's no, never.

Alan Lazaros:

Never considered not having anxiety.

Kevin Palmieri:

Yeah, no, it's like maybe I'll just, yeah, I'll stop thinking about being anxious and then it'll go away. Awesome, thank you for that Cool. Awesome Thank you for that Cool. You've solved all my problems.

Alan Lazaros:

It would actually help you to just think about trying to be as anxious as possible. It's called paradoxical intention.

Kevin Palmieri:

It might not actually work.

Alan Lazaros:

Yeah, I don't trust that All of what I've said thus far just ignore. We're going to get the episode done.

Kevin Palmieri:

Take it with a grain of salt, as they say. Okay, so we were previous episode. Maybe you shouldn't be courageous around certain people. It was a shorter episode. It was like 20 minutes. This will probably be like 25 minutes. It won't be super, super long, but we said we were going to do a part two, and I think there is a lot of gold buried in this conversation, because almost all of the content you consume that tells you to be more courageous should probably have a little asterisk next to it that says do this around the right people though, because if you don't do it around the right people this was my thesis in the previous episode, that I don't know if I really got to land. Okay, alan used the example of. There have been some people in the past where I got invited to things and, rather than taking the Kevin way out and telling a fib, All four tires were slashed, everything.

Kevin Palmieri:

Couldn't, couldn't, I didn't, even, I didn't even. I don't even know what year it is. I forgot what year it was. Thank you so much for inviting me. I didn't know what year it was. I would probably not give them the level of truth that you gave them. But here's, this is what happens If you give the level of truth to somebody that you're ready to give, they are not necessarily ready to receive, and then give feedback back to you, you might feel like you're the asshole for giving the truth, when in reality, that's what you've been working so hard on in terms of your self-worth over the last however many years, and it might convince you that you shouldn't do that again, when in reality, that's not necessarily the truth. That's why stuff like this is so hard, because it's beyond you, it's outside of you, it's not just you. You could give yourself whatever level of feedback you want that you believe you're ready for, and then you can respond accordingly, but when there's somebody else in introduced into this, it just potentially just everything.

Alan Lazaros:

What do you think emotional maturity is? I think emotion.

Kevin Palmieri:

Emotional maturity is the ability to hear feedback and I'm not saying it's necessarily direct feedback, just feedback in general and classify feedback and then do something with it. I would say Nice, Not bad for a Saturday morning.

Alan Lazaros:

Not terrible. I'd say it was a very emotionally mature answer. I appreciate that very much. Yeah, I'm not sure I actually think that I'm just making jokes.

Kevin Palmieri:

Oh, strong work, thank you I'm just making jokes, oh strong work.

Alan Lazaros:

Thank you. No, no, seriously strong work. I'm so sorry. I'm in a weird mood.

Kevin Palmieri:

I was like oh no, no we alan and I came in hot and it's a saturday, it's like we're out here doing it, I'm doing, I. I have a big video to edit after this. I'm pretty excited on it. Well, we have a the chief officer meeting. I told taryn say hey, you're not going to see me today. She's like I thought you only have one video to edit it after this. I'm pretty excited on it. Well, we have the chief officer meeting. I told Taryn. I was like, hey, you're not going to see me today. She's like I thought you only have one video to edit. I said it's a long video though. It could take me like three or four hours. This is a whole fucking production.

Kevin Palmieri:

So again shout out to the amazing NLU and NLPS team that edits videos with the quickness and with the wellness.

Alan Lazaros:

Everything done at a professional level is harder than you originally think. Oh yeah, fact, okay. So looked it up. Uh-huh. Emotional maturity according to ChatGPT is the ability to manage emotions effectively. That's kind of what you said-ish. Can you give us a synopsis of what you said again? Honestly, no Okay Is the ability to manage emotions effectively, respond to situations with self-awareness and navigate relationships with wisdom and balance.

Kevin Palmieri:

Fuck, yeah, I said the same shit. I said the same shit as Chad, as the team calls him, chad GPT.

Alan Lazaros:

Do they really Chad Chad? It involves taking responsibility for one's actions, handling conflicts constructively and maintaining a stable sense of self regardless of external circumstances. Nice, that part's better than mine, for sure. There's a book called children of emotionally immature parents. Now, I have not read said book. I have heard about said book from several people in the Evolve community and relationship talks, coaching clients, because most likely, if you're out there watching or listening and you resonate with Kevin and I, there's a high likelihood that you are a child of at least one emotionally immature parent. Okay, just saying, check out the book, ask yourself this question. Okay, not trying to hit on the parents out there. I understand they didn't have google, they didn't have these books, they didn't have audible, they didn't have youtube I get it.

Alan Lazaros:

Okay, I get it. Google's only 28 years old man when our parents were kids. They didn't have that. They had to go to the library, man, and they had to look up in encyclopedias. What emotional immaturity. They didn't have a phone that they could say hey, what is vulnerability, Do you remember?

Kevin Palmieri:

all you youngins out there, this is going to wreck your day. Maybe Do you remember when you had to pay for text messages? Yeah, Remember one time my bill was like $400 and my mom was just so angry she said you went over your texts. Who could you possibly send 600 texts to over the course of a month?

Alan Lazaros:

It's like girls. Yeah, girls, man, but I'm at 600, that's it. Yeah.

Kevin Palmieri:

I send 150 messages a day, now 600, that's all you got.

Alan Lazaros:

Yeah, seriously, well, it's a very different world than it was 20 years ago. I don't think humanity does not fully understand how much change has happened in the last 20 years. I'm convinced of it. We are going through something. I want to of it. That's it's. We are going through something. I want to have empathy for all of us. For a second, jen, if you are millennial or younger, you are. You grew up in an environment that was a hundred, no, a thousand times different than our parents did. It's probably a hundred thousand times, to be honest. There's a paper called the Law of Accelerating Returns by Ray Kurzweil. It's fascinating. It's boring as shit. Naturally, both of those simultaneously can exist. The thesis is we are experiencing 100 years of change every year. It's insane.

Kevin Palmieri:

It is wild If you look at history.

Alan Lazaros:

Yeah, I mean, the bicycle was invented 250 years ago. Dude, we again different episode. So here we are on chat gpt, we're looking this stuff up. So if you did have emotionally immature parents, I understand. I'm not trying to be unkind, I'm trying to help people get better. Okay, cool, here we go. Disclaimer done. Key signs of emotional maturity Self-awareness, recognizing and understanding your emotions without letting them control you. Nice, yeah. Number two emotional regulation Managing emotions rather than being overwhelmed by them and not necessarily. There's a lot of ways you can do that, but taking responsibility, owning your actions, mistakes and emotions without blaming others. One of the biggest things that I look for in people that I spend time with is how much ownership they take. I walked into Amelia's office last night and I had a long day. We were supposed to record conscious couples.

Alan Lazaros:

And I said babe, I fucked us. I fucked us. I'm sorry we're gonna have to reschedule this. I fucked us. I just take ownership Like I suck, I know, I suck, I know, I know I suck, I know, ah, I fucked us. Okay, I don't like it when people don't take ownership. You need to be able to say, hey, it's my bad, that's on me. Can you see why some people don't though? Yes, because when you take ownership, a lot of people use it against you. You show the wound and then they stick a knife in and twist it. That's why it's Jeffed. That's why it's Jeffed. That's why the whole thing is Jeffed. I know, I know which is the point of this episode and I will let Kevin talk on this one, I promise. All right.

Alan Lazaros:

The other ones are empathy, healthy boundaries, constructive communication, flexibility and adaptability, delayed gratification Whoa, so true, so true. Because everyone knows someone who, when you hang out with them, they need their needs. Now, it's like hanging out with a toddler, like an adult toddler and it's. Can you just? It's exhausting being around you. Can you just not for a minute? Can you just shut up for a second? Okay, and then letting go of the past and then confidence, without arrogance, being secure in yourself without needing to prove anything. That's it's very, very rare like emotional maturity is is. I mean, look at, there's 10 characteristics you have to work on to be emotionally mature. And so there's two types of people in the older generations and again, this is an overgeneralization, Don't quote me on this but there's the very stoic don't show any emotion so that you seem emotionally mature when you're not. Or there's the sort of emotional train wreck of highs and lows and lows, and highs and highs and lows, and I think that true emotional maturity is being more centered in the storm.

Kevin Palmieri:

So that's fairly well said. I think it requires a lot of. It's like there's a level of discomfort and then your response to it and then your response to your response. So if you let's say you're putting a, this is a good example. I think Alan coaches the team more than I ever have. We used to kind of both coach the team back in the day, but then I went in the podcast direction. Anybody on the team who has a podcast I'll work with on that right. But oftentimes on the team calls there'll be a lot of love for Allen's coaching.

Kevin Palmieri:

And I'm sitting in the corner like Steven Glansberg Woo, yeah, hell, yeah, coaching. And I'm sitting in the corner like steven glansberg yeah, hell, yeah. Not everyone gets that. Steven steven glansberg uh, super bad reference. He was the kid in their school who always sat by himself and, unfortunately, was probably bullied because of it. But I felt like a little bit like Steven Glansberg.

Kevin Palmieri:

But the more and more I so, it's almost like you don't really know how you're going to respond to something until you have the opportunity to face something, and then maybe you face it and you don't face it and respond as well as you'd like. That's an opportunity for growth. That's an opportunity for more ownership. That's an opportunity for more emotional intelligence. That's an opportunity for more ownership. That's an opportunity for more emotional intelligence. That's an opportunity for all of that. I think I respond way better to that now than I ever would have in the past, but that's because it was very uncomfortable the first couple times it happened, and now it's just not. It's like that's the truth. That's the truth, right when you, when I think sometimes it's hard to hear a truth that you haven't thought of before, but like there are some things that are just going to be more true than not, and I think that's one of them.

Alan Lazaros:

NLU listener what is happening? I just wanted to jump in here and let you know if you want to get to the next level faster. We have a free virtual monthly meetup at the first thursday of every month. You can connect with like-minded people and become a bigger part of this amazing global community. The link to register will be in the show notes.

Alan Lazaros:

One of the things that I've realized coaching lately is there's certain people who are so self-aware that I can share things with them. That might seem hardcore or challenging to hear, but the reason I can say it is because I know they already think it. Yeah, so, for example, if there's someone out there who's not smart at all but they think they're super smart, and then I allude to them maybe not being that smart, they go. They get very offended because what they think of themselves.

Alan Lazaros:

I'm trying to help them understand that you'd be better off if you just owned the 70% and then went and got smarter, instead of thinking you know everything, especially in this coaching, because this isn't going to work. We're just button heads and if you don't think I know more than you, why are you hiring me? What are we doing here? Right, and again, I don't coach these people anymore, but in the past it's been brutal, whereas with someone who's very self-aware I'll use kev as an example I can say like okay, let's say kevin is getting out of shape oh boy he's not right now.

Kevin Palmieri:

New low 180.1 mother goose nice all right.

Alan Lazaros:

So for anyone out there watching or listening, I want you to know that kevin and I are bodybuilders. We've been in fitness for a decade him 17 years, 18 years, whatever it is. I don't mean this in any negative way. Okay, we have a relationship where we're allowed to say things like this let's do it. So when Kevin was getting fat, I could say hey, kev, you're getting fat, and it's easy for me to say that. And it didn't ruin his world because he knows he's like yeah, no, hey, I know Now, I'm not saying it to hurt Kevin. If you want to get fat, that's all fine, you do you right. And again, fat's the wrong word. Let's say you're gaining weight.

Kevin Palmieri:

Again, I don't want to tiptoe around it. I was getting fat. I was getting fat, it's me, it's my body. I can say we can classify it the way we want, because it's my body. I was getting fat, that is a fact. Perfect. I am 5'5", 190 pounds, if you look it up. And, yes, I have a lot of muscle. But I was fat, yes, okay cool.

Alan Lazaros:

So I said this to Kev behind the scenes this is back in 2022, I think or 2023. I forget when, but it was when Kev was letting it ride. He wasn't as into fitness, and that's okay and I said, dude, this is next level. You, not dad bod, you. Now my point I'm making with all this is Kevin is emotionally mature enough to handle that, knowing I'm not trying to hurt you, I'm actually trying to help you.

Alan Lazaros:

Number two you've called me fat before and I appreciated it because you're absolutely right. And number three let's be real, we've been letting it ride, man. We've got to get it together. This is not okay and we have better standards than this. Now, everything's contextual, and so you.

Alan Lazaros:

Obviously, this is not fat shaming, that's not what this is. Everything I'm trying to explain here is how emotionally mature are you to where you can handle that level of feedback? Because you already know it in your own mind. Kev already knew it. You want to know why he knows it. He contemplates, he doesn't wake up in the morning and not go hmm, I'm kind of letting it go here, ruh-roh, yep. And he doesn't have a ton of shame around it because he owns it.

Alan Lazaros:

And so I think what happens is when you give a vulnerable truth, the original point of this episode. If you poke, shame, people get triggered and it's fight, flight, freeze or fawn. It's a trauma response and so we're unintentionally poking. If Kevin was ashamed that he was getting fat, his response might've been way worse. He might've attacked me dude, fuck you, you're fat too, or whatever. And when in reality, he has the emotional maturity to know okay, alan's trying to help me, he's not trying to hurt me, he's also calling me out for something I've called him out for. So we have that relationship. And also I already know that, brother, that's not news to me. Go ahead.

Kevin Palmieri:

Sorry to interrupt. There's too many things firing off in my brain right now.

Alan Lazaros:

I'm grateful you do.

Kevin Palmieri:

Saturday morning recordings are the GOAT. They are. I hate them. It's like I don't want to do this right now, but I love it too. Okay, one thought.

Kevin Palmieri:

I think this is why people that say don't care what people think are missing a huge piece. Yes, honestly, if somebody was to message me and tell me I'm out of shape, it would be like I don't really care. Cool, thank you. I appreciate that. I don't care Because I'm very confident in that I have very high standards, which means I also have very high awareness, which also means I have thicker skin. I'm good at fitness, so the feedback I get in fitness probably isn't going to offend me. Same with speaking If somebody, if you, said to me Okay, this, this, this, the things that you're the most competent in, you call yourself out in long before anybody else does. You and I how many times do we just laugh at each other because of how bad we are as speakers? But we're not insecure about that. If we were insecure, that would screw this whole thing up. If Alan laughed at me when I misspoke and I was insecure, I would be like, dude, fuck you, I'm putting myself out there. That's not relationship.

Alan Lazaros:

But I wouldn't laugh at you if you were insecure. So that perfect segue, and that's emotional intelligence, perfect segue.

Kevin Palmieri:

Whose responsibility is it to give the right amount of feedback? Because if I give somebody level 10 feedback and they're level five confident level five, competent level five, self-worth level five, confident level five, competent level five, self-worth, level five, self-belief can I really be mad at them if they lash out at level five, if they close the distance? I don't know. I think that's a leadership thing.

Alan Lazaros:

However, and and this is what's happened to me is and kevin and I have been talking a little bit about this behind the scenes is someone will come into my world and then they'll hold the high side of perception and kind of make it seem like they're a lot more confident than they really are yeah so then let's say someone works with me and this is in the past, I don't do this anymore but let's say someone works with me and they come in as if they're level 10 confident.

Alan Lazaros:

They portray level 10 confidence, I mean mean they are just, oh yeah, I'm absolutely, I'm dialed in, let's go. I'm going to give them level 10 feedback.

Kevin Palmieri:

Or like I want to be the best in the world at this Exactly They'll literally say I want to have the most successful XYZ in this industry.

Alan Lazaros:

Well, I'm going to have to give you feedback at level 10 if you're aiming for level 10 goals. It's not like again. I know I've been using michael phelps a lot as a reference, but michael phelps's coach had to be hard on him. He can't like oh, don't worry about it. Oh yeah, that's right. You just you slept in, you drank last, don't even worry about it. It's not a big deal. The gold medals will win themselves.

Kevin Palmieri:

But a little league coach doesn't have to be that exactly that's the's the thing.

Alan Lazaros:

Sometimes little league's coachers are like that.

Kevin Palmieri:

Well, those are the clips that go viral, because it's like Whoa take it easy. The kids are 12 years old. Yeah, exactly Well.

Alan Lazaros:

Michael Phelps was 11 when he wanted to win a gold medal.

Kevin Palmieri:

But he wanted to win it. I guess Exactly. So that's the difference.

Alan Lazaros:

Well, that's why Ke was. You knew that I was confident enough to handle that right, and so, unfortunately, a lot of people act here's, here's the cycle I'm we, uh, you have, you have two minutes okay damn I I metaphorically not me, but anyone out there I am insecure internally about something, about about myself.

Alan Lazaros:

Okay, so I puff up to protect myself, so no one gives me feedback. I hire a coach and that puffing up still happens, unconsciously. The coach thinks I'm actually that confident. The coach gives me level 10 feedback when in reality I'm deeply insecure about it. I have to go or I have to attack or whatever. And I didn't realize that that's what people were doing.

Alan Lazaros:

Kevin would always tell me in the past he's like dude, people aren't as confident as you think. They're acting confident around you. And you said that you, you give people permission to dream big, so they dream really big. And I actually thought that you meant it Like I had one client I'll get off in a second. I know we got to go. I had one client who said I want the most successful production company in Canada and I was so naive I actually thought he meant that British Columbia pictures 60 billion a year. So I was like, okay, let's do it. It's going to take you 60 years, but we can, can do it. I had him tracking 32 habits, six metrics, and he was grinding every single day and he grinded himself out, obviously, but I thought he meant that and he's like oh no, dude, like no. I meant like well, did you not look it up?

Alan Lazaros:

I probably took it literally I yeah, yeah so here's the problem people come and they want goals and dreams, and you know you can do anything you set your mind to. That is so dangerous. That's so dangerous. You basically set yourself up for a life of feedback that you don't even want. It's not good for everybody, and so it's really important to just align your goals with who you actually are.

Kevin Palmieri:

That would be a better slash longer bumper sticker. You can do anything that you set your mind to, have the competence in and are willing to learn in and are capable of handling feedback in. That's probably a better bumper sticker.

Alan Lazaros:

You need a big bumper sticker.

Kevin Palmieri:

You're going to need a big bumper too. I guess bumpers are big enough. You stretch that thing out on the back, no reason, you can't have like five lines, you know. But that, yeah, the amount of feedback is probably the hardest part. That's a big thing. One of the hardest resistances from where you are today to where you want to get to is all the feedback you're going to have to look at in between. From where you are today to where you want to get to is all the feedback you're going to have to look at in between. And the feedback potentially gets harder to digest as you get better. Like bombing a speech. My second speech ever is different than bombing a speech now, because I was naive, I didn't know. Now I feel like I know what to do. So if I don't do it, that's different. That's a different level of feedback. It's weird. It's weird how the whole thing is set up. How do you think of this tiny sweatshirt? I?

Alan Lazaros:

think it's great, super comfortable. This is a super valuable episode.

Kevin Palmieri:

You think yeah, cool, all right.

Alan Lazaros:

Well, I didn't record it, so we'll do it again and we'll send it off to the people. I'm a little insecure, because these are topics that are yeah, it's a lot of feedback. That's really what it comes down to. It's a lot of feedback.

Alan Lazaros:

So how To wrap it up how much feedback are you willing to take? How well do you take that feedback? And then what do you do with it? And the feedback of the self. We're going to get into this in the next episode. The feedback of the self, that's the hardest, that's the identity stuff, that's the oh, I am lanky Shit. Ah, I'm actually not that good looking, damn. Okay. Wow, I'm actually not that smart. That sucks, but it's also how you now that sucks, but it's also how you now you can work out and be less lanky.

Alan Lazaros:

Now you can read more books and get more smart. And now you can. What was the other one?

Kevin Palmieri:

I said I'm not that good looking, yeah, you can work out and get better looking.

Alan Lazaros:

Drink more water. Hydrate, take care of your skin. There's something you can do about all these insecurities. Take steroids.

Kevin Palmieri:

Take. You take steroids, alright cool.

Alan Lazaros:

Next level nation. He's joking, I am joking.

Kevin Palmieri:

Well, no, I mean, you want to take steroids. Out there, you take steroids, I don't. Who the hell am I To tell you what to do?

Alan Lazaros:

They're not good for you. I can't promote it. I'm not promoting this episode brought to you by Next level steroids, steroids.

Kevin Palmieri:

Yeah, next level Steroid solutions. That's going to be Our next business, alan Lazar.

Alan Lazaros:

Kevin.

Kevin Palmieri:

Palmieri is also natural If I've been working out for 18 years and I've been taking steroids for 18 years and I look like this fuck me. I mean shit, we have really messed up. Yeah, no, I'm not promoting it, but who am I to tell you how to live your life? I think I guess that's what this podcast is about trying to help you live your life in a more aligned way. But who am I to tell you what to do on the weekends?

Kevin Palmieri:

April 5th 2025. Next level live 2025. Fully virtual. Alan and I will be live streaming to Zoom. Tickets are $47 and with your ticket you get access to the replay. So if something comes up in the middle of the day, if you can't attend for the whole day, it's all good. You will have access to the replay and we will make sure we get that to you. Again, $47 for a 7-hour event. It's going to be super valuable, alan myself, amy. It's going to be wonderful and you can consume some next-level content in your pajamas from home. So I'll have the link in the show notes below.

Alan Lazaros:

If you are someone who cares more about achieving your goals and dreams than you do about avoiding tough feedback, my coaching is for you. If you have inward humility and you really do want to know more about yourself, I'll ask you questions that you've never been asked before. I was on with a new client yesterday and he said this is way different than I expected in the best way. On with a new client yesterday and he said this is way different than I expected in the best way, and it's the work that I do every single day, except for Sunday. So six days a week I coach and so I'm practicing day in and day out, and it's my favorite work in the world. So if you're humble and eager to learn and you have work ethic, reach out. I would love to coach you. If you don't have work ethic and you're not humble and you want big rewards for minimal effort, do not reach out to me under any circumstance.

Kevin Palmieri:

Reach out to me If you want to be a millionaire with no work. I got you. Reach out to me. No, I don't. I can vouch for Alan's coaching. Five stars. Alan has coached me Even. Shout out to if you're listening, shout out to the clients that are doing three calls a week. Now imagine getting twice that for the last eight years it's pretty much been my journey. Five stars, thanks, robert, and I'd even give you a little tip $2. There you go, $2? Yeah, very generous, generous tip. I'm going to make you earn it. You know, I think I am All right.

Kevin Palmieri:

As always, we love you, we appreciate you, grateful for each and every one of you and at NLU we don't have fans, we have family. We will talk to you all tomorrow.

Alan Lazaros:

Stay Next Level, next Level Nation.

Kevin Palmieri:

Thanks for joining us for another episode of Next Level University. We love connecting with the Next Level family.

Alan Lazaros:

We mean it when we say family. If you ever need anything, please reach out to us directly. Everything you need to get a hold of us is in the show notes.

Kevin Palmieri:

Thank you.

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