#22 - The Lighthouse Collective: Beacons of Boldness with Stuart Macmillan

Embarking on a transformative journey, we're joined by Stuart McMillan, a beacon of leadership and faith, to illuminate the foundational principles of the Lighthouse Collective. Stuart's rich heritage within the Salvation Army and his ascent in the direct selling arena have crafted a unique perspective, blending unwavering spirituality with robust business acumen. As we navigate through his Canadian lineage to his sunny Floridian life, we uncover the pivotal moments that not only led to his U.S. citizenship but also to the creation of his visionary collective. Engage with us as Stuart shares the profound impact of Jamie Winship's "Living Fearlessly" on his work, and how it harmonizes with his commitment to fostering professional development alongside spiritual enrichment.

In this episode, the essence of the Lighthouse Collective comes to light, revealing how biblical scripture and life's intrinsic rhythms can coalesce with leadership lessons from Stuart's "Lessons from the Lighthouse." Stuart advocates for a seamless integration of work, faith, and family life through hard work and dedication. His candid reflections on ego in leadership and the personal significance of Maine's coastal serenity offer a heartfelt approach to guiding others. Join us as we discuss the intentional selection of speakers and the collective's digital incarnation, providing a compass for those aspiring to lead with conviction and clarity.

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Collin: 0:09

Welcome to the Nonprofit Renaissance Podcast, where we help nonprofit leaders go further and grow faster. I'm one of your co-hosts, Colin, and I'm excited to share this episode with you. Today. We're joined by Stuart McMillan, a man who embodies the essence of leadership, of innovation, of discipline, of faith. He's the creator of the Lighthouse Collective, a unique gathering that merges professional leadership insights with deep-rooted faith values. In this episode, Stuart reveals how a legacy of service has fueled a mission to guide others in connecting their faith with their professional and personal lives. So join us as we explore the power of bold leadership and the transformative potential of living authentically. Let's go further and grow faster together right now.

Heredes: 1:00

Tell us who is Stuart.

Stuart Macmillan: 1:03

Wow, it's complicated.

Heredes: 1:06

Should we ask your wife? Let's talk to her. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you might want to ask her.

Stuart Macmillan: 1:09

Or my kids.

Outro: 1:10

Yes, yeah.

Stuart Macmillan: 1:11

Well, like I said, I grew up in Canada and played hockey and all the things Canadians do and went to school at McGill University and after that moved to Toronto. I've been involved in church my entire life. My cousins, aunts, uncles, grandparents on both sides are pastors. No way Salvation Army officers actually.

Outro: 1:36

Wow.

Stuart Macmillan: 1:36

So they were involved in the Salvation Army. As a matter of fact, my great-grandfather worked with William Booth to start the Salvation Army way back when, when it was still called the Christian Mission. So five generations of that.

Heredes: 1:50

Wow, that's a throwback.

Stuart Macmillan: 1:52

It's pretty crazy. And so I moved to Toronto after met my first wife and had two wonderful kids and yeah, it was a pretty cool career in telecommunications, candidly, to start. And so I was working for a number of companies there and then, I guess, got introduced to what we call direct selling through a company called Excel Telecommunications, which is the company I work for. We purchased it back in 1999 for $3.5 billion, the company I work for. We purchased it back in 1999 for $3.5 billion. And so that interests me to that whole direct selling thing which I always thought of pejoratively. But once I got into it I just saw how that type of business could impact lives in a cool way, you know, just impacting them financially or from a community standpoint. And so it was sort of into that whole direct selling niche for a number of years. That's how I met Deb. Deb was a supplier to the direct selling industry with a training company. So did you direct sell her? No, she well no.

Heredes: 3:01

Or the other way around.

Stuart Macmillan: 3:03

Well we sort of danced for a little while.

Outro: 3:05

You know, it was a bit of a dance, yeah.

Stuart Macmillan: 3:08

And. But you know, finally kind of worked out and I moved to Florida in, I think it was 2011, 2012, I think. So I haven't been in Florida long, Became an American citizen about three years ago. So congrats, Thank you.

Heredes: 3:26

And Florida. So welcome to paradise. Yeah, it's not bad. It's not bad.

Stuart Macmillan: 3:29

The funny thing is I've been coming to this area for probably 25 years, unbeknownst to me that she was even around. My parents had a place in Dunedin for many, many years.

Justin Price: 3:41

What drew them there?

Stuart Macmillan: 3:42

Toronto Blue Jays, oh yeah.

Justin Price: 3:45

That's right they train there.

Stuart Macmillan: 3:46

Yeah, exactly, so we still, deb and I, we can bike from our house over to see the Blue Jays and you know it's a place where we both get to be at home, because almost everybody in the stands is Canadian. But you know we biked over from our house. That's so cool, so it's kind of cool.

Justin Price: 4:03

My grandparents owned a house. My mom grew up about two blocks from the stadium.

Stuart Macmillan: 4:08

Oh, really In Dunedin. Yeah, how cool is that. Yeah, yeah, we actually went to a game this past week.

Heredes: 4:15

Oh, that's cool. So diehard Blue Jay fan, I'm assuming.

Stuart Macmillan: 4:18

I'm a diehard. I was a Montreal Expos fan and they're gone. So yeah, blue Jays, all the way Took the yeah, I love it, I love it.

Heredes: 4:26

We're chatting today in Florida in connection with some of our friends and some of our network here in Florida about the Lighthouse Collective.

Stuart Macmillan: 4:35

Yeah, is that?

Heredes: 4:36

right, Tell us more. I want to hear more about it. It's caught our attention to the point that we're like, okay, we got to bring Stuart in to tell us a little bit more about what it is, how it sprung up and uh, and what people need to know about it.

Stuart Macmillan: 4:48

It's kind of humbling even to hear you say that, because it was, uh, it's, it's all new. Um, after I stepped down from my last company uh, stayed on the board, but stepped down from the company last uh, summer and uh, we have a home in Maine, so that's where we pretty much spend kind of the end of May till November. And so we were up there and someone introduced Deb to the book Living Fearlessly by Jamie Winship and she read it. I think she was in a Bible study with it or something. And then she said you know, you got to read this.

Stuart Macmillan: 5:21

And so I read the book out in our three-season room every morning and Jamie Winship always asks. He says like you have a chapter, and then he asks two questions you know, what am I supposed to learn from this and what should I do about it? And so you know, I was trying really hard to ask myself those questions. And so you know, I was trying really hard to ask myself those questions and the Lighthouse Collective just came like we need to start something, and I ran upstairs to her. I go, I don't know this has just come from God, but we need to start something where we for me it's almost like guerrilla warfare in that what I found, you know, I've got 35 years of experience running a lot of big companies and stuff and I've learned a ton, and so what I've noticed is that there are common things like leadership, things that people want to hear, and my mentor is John Maxwell.

Stuart Macmillan: 6:18

He's one of them and he tells me on a regular basis that everything that he teaches on is actually scripturally based. And so, you know, as a student of leadership and, as you know, as I, you know want to share things you know with people on social media my ultimate aim is to get them to see Jesus. But you know what People don't always want to hear about Jesus right away, and so really, you know, I keep slipping it in. You know what People don't always want to hear about Jesus right away, and so really, you know, I keep slipping it in, you know. So I do a monthly message from the lighthouse we call it Lessons from the Lighthouse, and I can get into why lighthouses but yeah, I want to hear about that.

Stuart Macmillan: 6:59

Yeah, yeah, but almost always have a scripture in the middle of my message, even though the message is, you know about like this past month it was about March Madness and you know that kind of thing but I always slip in some scripture and ultimately want people to understand, you know that there's no such thing as no new truth. You know, like you can't make up truth. Truth is forever. We can discover it, right, but we can't make it up, and so always kind of pointing back to my faith. And so the Lighthouse Collective, as it evolved over the last few months and I want it to evolve even more I don't even actually know where it's going to be next year. I'm looking for people like you guys actually candidly to sit with us and go, hey, we could do this, this or we could do that. But currently it has sort of three pillars. The first pillar is this sort of digital presence, and then the second one is I'm writing a book right now called Ego-Driven Leadership how to Recognize it in Yourself and Others and Flee from it.

Collin: 8:02

Wow.

Stuart Macmillan: 8:03

You heard it here first ladies and gentlemen, right, I like that.

Justin Price: 8:07

It's a great title Titles are harder than anything. Yeah, got to have a hook. Got to have a hook. That's really good.

Stuart Macmillan: 8:13

Now there are people who say, don't have a negative hook, but in this case I talked to John Maxwell and John Gordon from the Energy. Bus and they both went, oh yeah.

Heredes: 8:21

And they have some experience. Yeah, yeah, yeah, those guys are semi-qualified to give you a size.

Stuart Macmillan: 8:25

And they said yeah, that's good, that's good, That'll have people going hmm, yeah.

Stuart Macmillan: 8:30

So the second pillar is really writing a book. I have two in my head, and then the third one is these events, and so the events have evolved from. In my last company, I wanted to be bolder about my faith and I decided just to go out there, and so we would have events, and on the Sunday I would whether it was a leadership event or a big event which eventually had 8,000 or 10,000 people at it I would do an optional church service on the Sunday, and so we threw that out there to be bold. And you know that by the time we were in Atlanta, we were at where the Hawks play the Atlanta Hawks, and we had 2,000 people at the church service.

Stuart Macmillan: 9:19

And then John Maxwell told me in his voice I think we need to be bolder. And so he said we need to have an altar call, we need to use the opportunity to have people come forward, and I was like, oh wow, that's OK, we're going all in now, 200 people came forward that morning, that Sunday morning, and including a really cool picture that I have. Of course, when you rent out a venue like that, you have to have security, and I have this coolest photo of one of the security guards leaving his post, going forward and then coming back.

Stuart Macmillan: 9:59

Come on. Yeah, yeah, that's special, yeah, it was cool. So that whole idea of, okay, let's find a place where business people can, where we can encourage them to be bolder about their faith and how do they weave their family life, being a good spouse, being a good mom or dad, and their faith into a successful business, I think that oftentimes we apologize for one or the other. One of the things I say all the time is I don't believe in work-life balance. I think it's a fallacy. I believe in rhythm, love that Right. To me, it's like an elastic, so when it gets pulled, and as long as it gets pulled the other way, if it goes back and forth, then you're good. If you stretch an elastic too far and don't the tension stays there, it will pop. And so really wanted almost to give business leaders permission to be bold or permission to go. It's okay to work hard. I mean, there's a I don't know if you guys have heard this, but lately there's this anti-hustle movement.

Heredes: 11:06

Have you heard?

Stuart Macmillan: 11:07

I'm an anti-hustle and you know I'm in. You know decades well above you guys. But I could tell you this I have never seen someone who is successful who hasn't had a period of hustle. I think that's just another fallacy. Like to think that I'm going to be and success can be. It doesn't have to be money, but to be at the top of your game, to be significant in your field, it requires hustle. I don't care what anybody says, but it's hustle in a. You've got to give some to your church. You've got to give some to your community.

Stuart Macmillan: 11:44

You've got to give some to your family and your wife and kids and stuff. So the event was okay, let's do this. Let's get a bunch of speakers together, ted talky kind of 20 minutes each, and we'll get them primarily couples who are successful in business to talk about how do they navigate that, how do they, what kinds of tips can they give this group of people to? How do I navigate, you know, a family when I'm in a job that isn't nine to five when I'm working nights. So we're, you know, we're hoping realtors come and mortgage brokers and a lot of direct sellers and people like that who you know, insurance salespeople, like people who don't just work nine to five I mean, it's open to everybody, but those are the people you know where there's hustle, how do they navigate, how do they prioritize? And then how do they, you know, use their faith and how do they get it out there in a way that is, you know, is that resonates with people. So that's what we're going to do.

Heredes: 12:49

I love and actually learned this from Craig, our friend, pastor Craig Altman he's a fellow subscriber and listener here to the podcast but about navigating the hustle and that seasons in life and the rhythm. That and for our listeners who are nonprofit leaders and pastors, you don't sign up or you don't answer the call to join a cruise ship. It's a battleship, right right. And it's very different when you go on a cruise ship.

Heredes: 13:08

No, it's a battleship, right, right, and it's very different when you go on a cruise ship and you jump on a battle, so navigate is very different. You're on alert and the seasons and the waves and the storms how you're handling it. So I love the one, the theme, the topic, and I think it's very relevant for kind of next generation of leaders coming up quick exit, without the hustle.

Stuart Macmillan: 13:27

Yeah, that quite quitting is quite something these days and I just you know, we think that the demographic is probably going to be 30s, early 40s is probably the.

Heredes: 13:38

So young, super young babies.

Stuart Macmillan: 13:40

Well, those are the people, though, on our social media right now. As we look at the people that are listening to us and responding, it seems to be that kind of 30 to 45 demographic that seems to be appealing to you, and I thought, how cool, I've got a white beard and I'm still appealing to somebody. That is cool, I love it.

Justin Price: 13:59

I heard two things that you said. I want to make sure I'm getting this but, I heard that you were basically trying to call out the reality of people in this position within business, that they can be bold.

Outro: 14:15

Yeah.

Justin Price: 14:16

So you're taking your examples from running billion-dollar companies which you may or may not have you were most likely not owner of, which means you weren't the only boss.

Outro: 14:28

No.

Justin Price: 14:28

And you had to figure out how to be bold. I think sometimes people see that and they're like, oh well, he had all the power, you don't have all the power, I didn't. Which means you weren't the only boss, no, and you had to figure out how to be bold.

Stuart Macmillan: 14:32

I think sometimes people see that and they're like, oh well, he had all the power, you don't have all the power, I didn't, I didn't actually.

Justin Price: 14:35

So to be bold in that position, no matter what ring you are in the business. And then the second one I thought was super important was this idea of how you manage the work and the things that are really practically applicable to these people. And I think it was so important because when I heard you talking, I was thinking about what we see on social and especially in this group of people that you were describing insurance guys, real estate brokers what are they posting? They have got to portray success that is part of their business, and so they can't post what it took to get that success. They cannot post that they missed their son's baseball game. They cannot post that they missed out on so-and-so's birthday because they were trying to do this thing over here, they cannot post the tension their marriage is feeling right now because people don't buy that's not aspirational.

Stuart Macmillan: 15:30

Exactly, they cannot post the tension their marriage is feeling right now because people don't buy it.

Justin Price: 15:33

That's not aspirational, exactly. But you are combating that and you're saying, for a day I'm going to get people together and not just one story, not just my story, but a whole bunch of people's stories, ted Talk style, and I'm going to tell that audience the truth of what it really takes to survive in times that were good and times that were bad. I'm going to say this is what it looked like to actually be there and to kind of rip off the facade of the social media.

Stuart Macmillan: 15:57

Totally agree.

Justin Price: 15:58

And I think that is more necessary than ever for people who are aspiring to hit the levels of success that you've hit, whether it's as a family man or as a businessman. We need the truth. We need to get rid of this facade because it's tricking us. I think Satan's using it to completely deceive us and we're making the wrong calls.

Stuart Macmillan: 16:21

I totally agree. I talk about the difference between real life and real life, because the reals that you see— Is that you see is that your second book? I like that yeah, you like that. Okay, good, all right yeah, but but that's, that's the truth yeah that's the truth. You know, we're almost forced into this um fakeness you know there's nothing. Everything's artificial. And now I mean we've with ai. I mean more so we. You mean, I look at people posting something super eloquent and I know them and I go, that's okay, Artificial yeah.

Stuart Macmillan: 16:58

I think that was you, but okay.

Stuart Macmillan: 17:00

But like we're getting to the point where nothing's real anymore, and I think that puts pressure on people to go, I'm not good enough. So that's part of what we're hoping this day will do, and we're capping it off with a. I'm trying to use one of my old models. It's a day I'll tell you about Jamie Winship because he's coming, which is so cool, but we're capping it off with a church service at night. So it's going to run from approximately 9 o'clock to 5.30, go have dinner and at night we're having a church service. Daryl Black is going to bring the word, we're going to have a worship band and what I'm hoping I told Eris this that I'm actually hoping that at least 25% of the people hopefully more are not believers.

Outro: 17:51

Right.

Stuart Macmillan: 17:51

They're going to come and hear about business and how do I navigate my personal life. And then I want them to be able to say after everything you've heard I mean the call to action, after everything you've heard, let's go worship together. And you know what I want to see lives changed. I want to see a security guard waving a book saying, hey, I made a decision.

Justin Price: 18:34

That's a big deal. There's churches all across America, 300,000 churches. The average church is not seeing 200 salvations. That story you told. That's not a small number. That's a pretty significant impact. There's pastors who are working for 365 days to see half that much salvation work and you're calling like the thing that you're talking about is that you've accomplished and then to see what can come out of the Lighthouse Collective and these events that you're talking about could be really encouraging.

Stuart Macmillan: 19:05

Yeah, we're hoping. You know, we're going into this event and we want to tweak it, and it's our first. And when I shared this with John Maxwell, you know, I said like we want to tweak it and it's our first. And uh, when I shared this with john maxwell, he, you know, I said like we want to try this and he goes no, no, you're like no, you're not trying anything. You know, you're gonna do it, you're gonna do it and then you're gonna fine tune it, but you're not trying anything, you know. And, um, he's just a great guy to keep me.

Stuart Macmillan: 19:30

Keep me going but, so that's, that's the thing, you know, like we want. We want to see what's going to work and what's not going to work, and maybe we'll do two a year, maybe three, I don't know. But it's really about how do we bring business leaders together and almost give them permission to be bold about their faith.

Justin Price: 19:47

That's really cool. I've never heard of anybody else doing anything like that?

Heredes: 19:51

Well, tell us where the name came from.

Stuart Macmillan: 19:55

It's an obvious connection to the mission, as I'm hearing it. So yeah, so I spent all my summers from the time I was born in Maine. Every summer my mom and dad would take us for two or three weeks to Maine and they saved up to rent a place in this little community. A lot of people from the church that I grew up in would go there, and a couple of our better friends. Over time I ended up buying a place just kind of off the beach and Deb and I were married there. My daughter, bethany and her husband were married there. It's just become a real cool. Our dogs are buried there. We have a little pet cemetery, but they were cremated.

Stuart Macmillan: 20:38

It's not weird. Well, we have to be careful because it's on the water, so we don't want things floating. But I've always been. I see God through lighthouses and there was a transition because for a time it was the lighthouse to me, and that was a transition because for a time it was the lighthouse to me and that was the little bay where our cottage is. I've been going to my entire life and one of the things when I made big decisions, when I decided to ask Deb to marry me, for example, I made that decision.

Stuart Macmillan: 21:09

At that beach and sitting in what's called Casco Bay, there are three lighthouses there's one there, there's one there and there's one there, and it didn't matter whether I was 12 or five or 55, the consistency of the lighthouse was something.

Stuart Macmillan: 21:27

I would go down and I'd hear the ocean, the consistency of the waves and those lights that have been there my entire life, and so there was this warmth that I got about lighthouses and then, particularly in the last five to 10 years, I've been thinking about how we have to be lighthouses and so all the metaphors.

Stuart Macmillan: 21:46

For most of my speeches over the last 10 years, the metaphor of the lighthouse has come back because it's constant and consistent and it doesn't just turn on when there's a storm, it's on all the time. And I talk about how we need to be lights because we don't know who's in a storm. Right, we don't know who that we're talking to. So our light's got to be on all the time like a lighthouse. And so for the last I guess probably six or seven years I end every talk with keep shining, be a light. And so that has become part, and so our home in Maine is just filled with lighthouses. So there's lighthouse, salt and pepper shakers and lighthouse and the little handles on the doors are lighthouses and we bring our grandchildren up there and we make them count when we want them to do something because we're busy. Count the lighthouses.

Justin Price: 22:38

How many? What's the biggest highest number Right now?

Stuart Macmillan: 22:39

there's 39 lighthouses in our house.

Outro: 22:42

That's awesome.

Stuart Macmillan: 22:42

Yeah, so in the little beach house, and we keep adding them, you know so. So that's how we got the lighthouse collective. We like the word collective because we want to. We want to gather people. I have in my head right now and I want to talk to you guys about it at some point is like maybe we have a group called the lighthouse keepers, Cause a lighthouse keeper, a lighthouse keeper, is a really important job, right? They're the ones who keep the light going. So I don't actually know where it's going to go, but I'm kind of excited about it.

Heredes: 23:12

That's really cool. How did you curate the speakers and bring those together? You know we know some of them excited to hear. Tell us more.

Stuart Macmillan: 23:21

Well, it's interesting. You know we pray a lot about it. It's funny enough. I'll share this. Last week it's at Grace Family Church in Clearwater, and last week, and now we're gonna do this every Monday.

Stuart Macmillan: 23:38

Deb and I we're reading the Circle Maker and so we decided to walk around Grace Family Church in Clearwater seven times. I love it, and so we're gonna do that every Monday for the next little while. And as we're doing that, we're just praying over these people, and they just came to us in a way like okay, that person would be amazing and I don't know where it came from, but they'd be really good. I've seen this indicators of this in their life or whatever. And so these are the folks that are kind of the lighthouse collective live number, you know number one inaugural event.

Justin Price: 24:11

I love it. I really liked that your approach was not the way we would typically approach it, because I think the temptation is to go who's going to bring the biggest crowd? Who's going to be what's the biggest name? What's the who? Who has the most clout? Yeah, who's going to be what's the biggest name?

Justin Price: 24:28

What's the who has the most clout. So that way we seem like this is a bigger deal. Anytime you're starting, you're always looking for like brand association, right. So what brands can I grab onto? And I love that. Your heart was not that, not to say that that wasn't considered, but what you just said was like I mean, I'm praying over who God wants to speak and what they can share, not what their brand value is Like. God doesn't need our brand value to build anything.

Stuart Macmillan: 24:51

Yeah, yeah, and it's scary sometimes because if you know the story of the circle maker, you know Honi, I guess you know, stood in the circle until it rained. And you know, we're kind of going out there with this going. I don't even know if anybody's going to come. You know, like we're just we're putting it out there, and so Deb and I, you know, on that, on our circle walk, you know we're really praying over, praying over the speakers that they would have something valuable to say, but also praying for that God would bring people into these seats that really need to hear what those people have to say, that really need to hear what those people have to say. And then we have like a couple of keynotes that you know Daryl, who is one of the teaching pastors at Grace, just powerful message. And we thought, okay, and I talked to him about the event and he was just like 100% in, like yeah, I could see myself doing that.

Stuart Macmillan: 25:42

And then Jamie Winship was so weird because this book drove us starting this whole thing in the first place. There's a speaker couple called the Roths, derek and Rachel Roth. Well, they actually know Jamie Winship. So they connected Deb and me to Jamie and we got on the phone with them and I said you know, like we're not making any money off this thing, so I don't know if you'd want to come, or you know, I was sort of throwing it out there, you know, after Deb and I had prayed and he goes. You know what's bizarre is, this is the only opening in my calendar for the next four or five months, like that weekend. So he said I'll get back to you and sure enough he's going to come. So yeah, it's pretty cool.

Stuart Macmillan: 26:27

I don't know if you guys have read any or listened to any of his podcasts, but on our way home, driving home from Maine, we listened to Jamie Winship for like hours and Todd and Deb Duncan as well.

Stuart Macmillan: 26:40

Yeah. So Todd Duncan is a great guy that I've been working with for a little while. He was affiliated with Maxwell, john Maxwell, and he is really well known in the mortgage brokerage space and so his two books that I always recommend High Trust Selling, in my opinion, the best sales book that I've ever read. It talks about the integrity High Trust Selling, yeah, and Time Traps that's his other really good book. So just, you know how do you? How to prioritize your time and pragmatic exercises.

Stuart Macmillan: 27:12

The thing about Todd that's so cool is he's super pragmatic. I didn't even know he was a believer, but I should have figured it out based on what I just said to you earlier, because a lot of the truths in his book I Trust Selling are about integrity. But we started using him as a speaker and a trainer at Monat and I got to know him better, got to know him and his wife better and you know, strong believer but incredibly successful author and business person, and so he agreed to just come. I mean his fee, typically to speak, is in the tens of thousands of dollars and I just said, like we're doing this. He goes, deb, and I will be there.

Heredes: 27:56

That's amazing.

Stuart Macmillan: 27:57

Yeah.

Heredes: 27:58

Obviously you have Clearwater and the beaches in Florida.

Outro: 28:01

Yeah, attractive so for our listeners out of state.

Heredes: 28:04

Maybe you're freezing up north somewhere. What a great time to come to Florida.

Stuart Macmillan: 28:08

What a great time.

Justin Price: 28:09

Tell us yeah exactly the depression.

Stuart Macmillan: 28:11

Shake it off in the lighthouse. Well, did you guys grow up in the north at all?

Justin Price: 28:17

I'm a fifth generation native. Floridian, but I left and went to Ohio. I couldn't do it. I had to get out by February, like every year.

Stuart Macmillan: 28:25

Well, I brought Deb up to Montreal to live for a little while and when it snowed the first week of June she said see ya, Bye-bye, I'll see you in Florida.

Justin Price: 28:38

I'll be there.

Stuart Macmillan: 28:39

I'll be in Florida, you know, I'll meet you in Maine.

Justin Price: 28:42

June's not a good time for snow.

Stuart Macmillan: 28:43

No, no, but this time of year in Canada and northern United States is when all the snow melts and, like all the salt and dirt that they use for the roads is just sitting there and all the dog stuff that was buried under the snow, it's a good time to come to Florida.

Justin Price: 29:02

I love it.

Stuart Macmillan: 29:03

It's a great time to come to Florida.

Heredes: 29:05

How can somebody find out more? We'll link everything on the podcast here. How can they?

Stuart Macmillan: 29:09

be a part. Best thing to do is to go to thelighthousecollectiveglobal and everything's there. If it's today, the room block is still open. Today there's two of them, and so they're open. Get a ticket. We are going to have an absolutely amazing time and I'm so excited about it. Actually.

Heredes: 29:30

I love it. I love it. Now, be sure to check out all the links below and we're making sure that this is airing with time for you to still attend, for you to still be a part and come visit, come say hi to our team, our gang there and all around Florida, when we'll host you around Clearwater Beaches. Right, justin? Justin's a tour guide, number eight level on Google maybe.

Stuart Macmillan: 29:53

Well, the Clearwater campus is pretty close to the beach actually.

Heredes: 29:56

It is.

Stuart Macmillan: 29:58

It's nice and west right. Yeah, great sunsets here too, like you're not going to see them. Correct, nowhere on the East Coast are you going to see sunsets like this, oh no.

Heredes: 30:07

Well, Stuart, anything else I mean just the nuggets you've dropped today is such a great indicator of how awesome the event's going to be, so I can't wait. I'm excited. Anything else you'd like to share with our listeners before we wrap up today?

Stuart Macmillan: 30:19

Not really other than you know, just be with the audience. That you've described to me is just you know, let's be bold. You know, 356 times in the Bible it says fear not. And so I've learned, you know what God has incredibly blessed the money business when I was bold, and so you know what. It's not easy always, but God will bless it, he will honor it. So I just say fear not, be bold, be strong, be courageous. It's not easy always, but God will bless it he will honor it.

Stuart Macmillan: 30:52

So I just say fear not, be bold, be strong, be courageous and let's do it together.

Heredes: 30:55

Keep shining. That's a great word. Keep shining, be the light, be the light. Well, thank you so much. That's it for us on this episode and we'll see you next time on the Nonprofit Renaissance.

Outro: 31:03

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