Have you ever felt the sting of rejection, or the thrill of stepping into a new role? Join us as we sit down with seasoned actors Trish Rainone and Sarah Cleveland, sharing a candid look at the evolution of auditions and the realities of chasing dreams in the competitive world of acting. From the adrenaline of in-person auditions to the nuanced craft of self-tape submissions, we navigate through the intricacies of presenting oneself to casting directors, the emotional toll of handling rejection, and the persistence actors must embrace.
This episode offers an intimate peek into the strategies that help actors like Trish and Sarah bounce back after hearing 'no', and the supportive community that buoys them during the low points. With personal stories of the unpredictable nature of callbacks and the rollercoaster journey from hopeful auditions to the shock of landing unexpected roles, our guests illuminate the less-glamorous aspects of the industry that test resilience and shape careers.
Closing on a heartwarming note, we celebrate the aspirations that fuel an actor's passion, from manifesting roles on vision boards to basking in the glow of a Times Square billboard. Our conversation spans the spectrum from the earnest pursuit of dream projects to the playful musings on rom-coms and beach vacations. So, whether you're an aspiring actor, a movie buff, or simply in search of a little inspiration, this episode offers a touching and profound glimpse into the ebbs and flows of an actor's life.
Thank you for joining us on today's show, as always, we appreciate each and every one of you! Talk to you soon.
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Have you ever felt the sting of rejection, or the thrill of stepping into a new role? Join us as we sit down with seasoned actors Trish Rainone and Sarah Cleveland, sharing a candid look at the evolution of auditions and the realities of chasing dreams in the competitive world of acting. From the adrenaline of in-person auditions to the nuanced craft of self-tape submissions, we navigate through the intricacies of presenting oneself to casting directors, the emotional toll of handling rejection, and the persistence actors must embrace.
This episode offers an intimate peek into the strategies that help actors like Trish and Sarah bounce back after hearing 'no', and the supportive community that buoys them during the low points. With personal stories of the unpredictable nature of callbacks and the rollercoaster journey from hopeful auditions to the shock of landing unexpected roles, our guests illuminate the less-glamorous aspects of the industry that test resilience and shape careers.
Closing on a heartwarming note, we celebrate the aspirations that fuel an actor's passion, from manifesting roles on vision boards to basking in the glow of a Times Square billboard. Our conversation spans the spectrum from the earnest pursuit of dream projects to the playful musings on rom-coms and beach vacations. So, whether you're an aspiring actor, a movie buff, or simply in search of a little inspiration, this episode offers a touching and profound glimpse into the ebbs and flows of an actor's life.
Thank you for joining us on today's show, as always, we appreciate each and every one of you! Talk to you soon.
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On this episode of the Powers Point Podcast, Scott and I have an interview with Sarah and Trish, the sisters from different misters.
Speaker 2:Hey, Scott, hello.
Speaker 3:Welcome to the Powers Point Podcast, season 5, episode 15 or 16. There's so many of them, I just forget. We have some really special guests on the show today. We have returning guest Trish Ranoni. I think this is her 10th time on, so an all-time record. I mean it was an all-time record when she hit four or five honestly and then three times on returning actor Sarah Cleveland. We had a really amazing conversation. They dwelled deep into the auditioning process of acting. It's so cool that they spent time with me. Jim was all ready to do the interview but he had personal issues come up so you won't hear him on the interviews. Don't think we're ignoring him. He's not just sitting there listening. You know I'm going to keep this short. Let's just jump right into that interview right after this commercial and I'll be back afterwards.
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Speaker 3:Joining me on the show right now are two actors who not only excel in their craft but also embody the qualities of good friendship and have made it a point to help as many people who are looking to break into the acting business by offering tips that they may have never known, such as bringing slippers to auditions. Please welcome Trish Ranone and Sarah Cleveland. Welcome back to the show.
Speaker 2:Hello, thanks for having us.
Speaker 3:I know that was a little long-winded and I never do that, but I've just been trying to do something different lately with the introductions, so I hope that wasn't too bad.
Speaker 2:No, it made us feel great with the introductions, so I hope that wasn't too bad. No, it made us feel great.
Speaker 3:I've been watching your guys' reels on social media. Twins for Real is what it is, if anybody wants to look it up. How'd you come up with the idea to collaborate to help people aspiring to be an actor?
Speaker 4:Well, how did we end up collaborating? Well, actually, I was telling someone about this today in person, because we were talking about how everyone has a twin in the world, and I said actually, this is how I described it. I said I have one, and we didn't know we were each other's twin, but so many of our mutual friends kept saying you're Sarah's twin, you're Trisha's twin, and we ended up finding each other on Instagram and finding out we have lots of similarities, hitting it off, and then we decided to start doing some reels together. Basically, in a nutshell, after we wrote a script together also.
Speaker 3:For people like me and others that are listening. Can you walk us through like auditions for people that never have auditioned before? What do we expect? Is it like a room full of lots of people?
Speaker 2:Well, I'll give you the current reality of what an audition is like, and Trish can maybe talk about what it used to be like. But the current situation is we get an email or a notification on our app that we have been requested to to tape it's called a self tape for a role and in that, in that email or in the in the app, there is information of the breakdown. So it talks about who the character is, the age you know, what their personality is like, the sides, which are the words you're going to use for the audition. It's a piece of the script and the due date and anything you also have to add in terms of a slate, so you might have to at the end or at the beginning. You have to usually detail your name, your location, which city you're in and how tall you are. Those are the pretty typical ones.
Speaker 2:If you're doing a commercial, it's usually photos as well and your hands, hence the reel that we did about how to hide tattoos on your rent, which we both have. So and then you take using your cell phone, using a camera. You film yourself. You have someone who reads, whether it be over the phone, they read the opposite lines, or my daughter does it actually in my studio that I have at my house. Some people have makeshift studios, some people have an actual room, some people go into a private studio to tape it. You edit this wonderful piece of hopefully magic and you upload it to a software and you submit it. That is what it's like, and so it's a very different, very, very unique experience, whereas it used to be.
Speaker 4:Well, we used to have to be in Toronto, vancouver, los Angeles, the certain cities where they're casting, where the casting director offices are, and you would get called in for an audition. Sometimes it would be I remember in Toronto getting auditions for the next day that were 14 pages for some of the TV series that you'd see on television. So a little bit more they were. It was like a very. It felt like advanced or competitive. So if you got to that point where you were being seen for those auditions, it might just be a day prior and you'd get 14 pages. Now I think our union has a rule about it being eight pages maximum, but that was really stressful for me. So I get really nervous in person because you have the casting director right in front of you in the room. You get to the audition space. We would be in a waiting room. You see all these faces from TV.
Speaker 4:I remember seeing like this actress and she played Tamara on Breaker High that I watched all the time in high school and then I'm in my late 20s in Toronto going for an in-person audition and I walk in the room and she's there, for example, but she seems so friendly and so nice and so approachable, but at the same time you're like you've been on TV your whole life. This is really intimidating. You know who else is auditioning, so that was intimidating. And also nice to see other actors and see that everyone looks equally as nervous. And then you get called in the room when it's your turn and you go into the room you see the casting director, their assistants, maybe some producers and directors in the room. You stand on your mark the little X on the floor and decide on an eyeline, try to stumble through it, which I often felt like I did.
Speaker 3:Now, when you're with like a group of people in the old times or the new times and other people are up for the same role, does that intimidate you? Because that would intimidate me. Oh man, I would have beat you.
Speaker 2:It doesn't intimidate me with the situation that we have now. It's funny, though, because you're usually friends with people on social media and so they might post, they might post an audition that they've done without the sound, because you can't actually post your auditions, but without the sound. But you can read the lips and you're like, oh, I just did that one. Or you see the outfit and you're like, oh, I know they're auditioning for the same thing. So you don't necessarily know, but you can kind of figure out some of the people who are going out for the role. The other thing is is that it's typically you have the same group of people that you're that you're up against anyway, because it's if you're basing basing it on looks or that sort of thing, but it's.
Speaker 2:I don't find it intimidating because I have my little space and I do my job and I can do the best I can in my own little private hole, and then I send it out into this world and I don't know what gets viewed and what doesn't. Well, I know they say they view everything, but I don't know how far it makes it. They never tell you if you got to the top three. They don't you know if you were terrible, uh. So I find that very not intimidating. Now going the other way, if I were in person I would find that very nerve-wracking, being in a room full of people and knowing and you know, there was a an interview with with Ryan Gosling, was it right?
Speaker 4:Gosling. Oh my gosh, I was literally just thinking about that in my brain, how he said he would go into, because I was just thinking is that weird of me for being nervous seeing the other people? But then he said he would go into a room full of other people who looked like him and be like, oh great, and you're like, so I guess I'm going to change how I was going to do it, and then you try to make these last minute changes. There was one actor who we would always go out for the same role and she would say really passive, aggressive things to me in the like in the waiting room.
Speaker 4:It would always be like, wow, you look really tired today, are you okay? Or like comment about my body, and I'm like, oh, she was trying to throw you off. I think she's trying to throw me off and it did. Um, but for the most part people were nice. But if it was, I found if the room was small, people were nice. But when it was a bigger space with a bigger waiting room like the bigger the waiting room, the more someone could come up to you and give you a little pass of aggressive dig or not aggressive.
Speaker 2:I've only had two times so far where I've seen like I always watch after to see, you know, if it's something on television or if it's something in a film the role that I went out for. And I've only had two times where, like, I really really really wanted that role and it was funny because one of them I watched it Actually, I didn't watch it, my family saw it on TV and they were like, oh my god, that's the audition you did a year ago, and for them to remember it, but when I watched it, our auditions if you would have placed them side by side were identical, like from her scene to my audition. Our intonations like were bang on, so it was exactly the same. We looked very different.
Speaker 2:And then there was one other time that I made it to, like you know, the, the chemistry read, which can be like the final and and I didn't book it, and that one is still one that like kind of twinges at me, but. But other than that, like I don't, I don't think it's a, it's not a competition thing, because if it's meant to be, it's meant to be and that's really what you just have to have to take, because otherwise you go crazy.
Speaker 4:Yeah, everyone has their unique traits to like. Everyone brings something to it, or you know so they just that's who they wanted, that person with that trait, or you know that mannerism. There's just some things. Yeah, do you just I don't know. And sometimes actually from being a producer, from producing projects, watching the audition tapes we it could have gone to there were actually for most roles, there are about five people it could go to and then it's just all about a discussion between the producers and the director who is your favorite and why, and there's usually about five favorites between the team yeah, and then it's a matter of blending characters together, right, blending the people.
Speaker 2:Does this one match up with this one? Height wise, did they? Did they pair well? Availability, uh, you know it just so. Yeah, I, I don't worry about that stuff anymore, I just kind of do my thing. And again, it's easier because we're in this, in this private space, and then once you get into set, you've all already been in the exact same situation, and so it just kind of comes together, which is really great.
Speaker 3:Now, if you go out for a role, is there like a chance that you will get something else, another role in that TV show or movie like that you didn't expect. It may be lesser or maybe better. Is that a possibility?
Speaker 2:yeah, that happened a couple times. What about you, trish um? I?
Speaker 4:had, and I don't know that I've gotten a different role in that same show. But I've had where I send a tape away for a movie or a show and I think that character was kind of wrong for me, it it's the wrong age group, etc. I just don't see myself booking it. And then the director reaches out and wants me to audition for a different role in the show of a different age group. So then it always makes sense. I'm like, ok, I guess they liked what they saw and they probably thought she's too old for to play an 18 year old. Now that we see her live and or like on the inaction on the video. So then they'll say, ok, we want her to do this, go out for this role instead, but in either like for that. In that situation that's just a win for me, because I know that my audition was good enough to get asked back that my audition was good enough to get asked back.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I've had that situation as well. But I've also had where, like, I auditioned for one role and then I got an offer and it was a different name and I was very confused because I had no idea that this character had even existed and I was like, ok, I didn't know if they changed the name of the character, maybe, or what had happened. So I filled out the paperwork, I sent it in and it wasn't until I got to set that the director said to me Network wanted somebody else, but I really wanted you, so I fought for you and we got you this role and I was like, oh, thank you, that's great. So that worked out too. And she's like you're probably wondering why the paperwork didn't match up with what you, you know you taped for. And I said, well, she's like I just knew it would be fine anyway to to just give you the other role, but I didn't know that. I didn't know they were in different lines. I didn't know it was a whole different person.
Speaker 4:Um, but that was really that was a surprise because you could have thought that they just changed the character's name. I did, I thought they just changed the name.
Speaker 3:How long does it generally get to get a callback if you get the role?
Speaker 4:Well, I had. Actually, I have a really interesting story. I think it's interesting anyway. So I auditioned for a Netflix original for a principal role this Cassian V Wars and I put it on tape. It was a few scenes. It ended up being super small, because that tends to happen to me when I get excited about something, it ends up being like mostly cut out. But they were very nice about it and messaged me and whatever, and just said, like we thought you did a great job. So I auditioned for it via self-tape and it had a code name. At the time when they auditioned us it wasn't B-Wars and it was starring Ian Somerhalder from Vampire Diaries. So they had a code name for it just to keep it quiet, because he had a big following and my agent didn't realize what it was. But I saw Netflix original so I knew what I was auditioning for.
Speaker 4:I was like this is going to be something that's pretty big, like that would be a big deal to book it, and then I sent away my tape, didn't hear anything for like actual weeks. Then I'm riding my bike one day and the dream from the night before flashes back to me. And I had a dream the night before, like weeks later about every step of the casting. So there were all these network executives and it was like I was a fly in the wall watching them discuss and they were like looking at my tape and they were like, yes, her, ok, we approve, we approve, we approve. And it went through. The director, he says yes, her, it went through.
Speaker 4:I think, even like Ian, like I was watching all these people watching the tape and approving. And then my agent calls me in the dream and says I booked it. So then the next day I'm thinking like that's so weird that I would have like such a detailed dream about like network work executives and I obviously didn't book it, that was weeks ago, but how cool would that have been, because that was feels like it was a bigger one and it would be cool to be a part of. And then I'm riding my bike and I get a phone call. So I pull over to the side of the road and it's agent and she's like hey, you just booked this, this, uh, this gig and yeah, I had booked it that's pretty cool.
Speaker 4:I really do. I really was disappointed that a lot of it was cut but then you have to just it like really humbles you as an actor and as a person to not get excited about anything or to not see it as it's not about you. Like any project that I get hired on, it's not about me. I'm such a small part. They can do whatever they want with that. It's not my project. I'm not the director, not the writer, and just be grateful to have the experience. But don't expect, don't like anticipate anything, anything, because you never know what's going to happen with the project or, if, what your involvement will be when you see the final project.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that just rolls into the next question how do you handle rejection? It's got to be. If you keep going and going and you know you're doing everything you can in their mind, you know you're getting acting coaches to help, they say you're doing good. You go to auditions, you get shut down. Get shut down to the next one, shut down to the next one. How would you handle rejection? Because that would make me want to do a whole different career.
Speaker 2:I think, first of all, everybody handles it differently. I will tell you, when I first started, I could not sleep. I could not sleep. I relived my auditions over and over and over again. I was like a complete insomniac because I would eat, live, breathe that tape that I sent in. I would, you know, think about all the changes I could have made.
Speaker 2:I should have done this differently, oh, I should have done this, and it physically made me ill. I don't know what happened for that to stop. I should have done this differently. Oh, I should have done this, and it physically made me ill. I don't know what happened for that to stop. Really grateful it did. I don't do that anymore. I really, and they tell you, you have to get to a point like everybody will tell you, oh, you just have to do it and let it go. And I literally do that now I send it out to the world, and if somebody wants it, great, and if they don't, it's fine. Like I said, there are a select few a tape for that or a request to tape for that. It would probably be one of those where it would just like not me after, but for the most part it is just you just kind of let it go. So I don't know, trish, does it eat at you?
Speaker 4:It used to too. I feel the same way. I think it's all the rejection because I've done so many that I haven't booked. I think it was different. I used to let it eat at me after I'd get, when I'd go in person. But now that we're doing tapes from home, I it's like another thing that's in my day that I do. You wake up, you have your coffee, I teach right now, so I go and I teach, and then I'm like, ok, I'm going to go to the gym and then when I get home at this time we're going to film myself tape and then it's just like another to do thing on my to do list and send it off and try not to think about it again. But there are. I feel the same way.
Speaker 4:There was a show, shorzy and Letterkenny. They're filmed close by where I live and I've had so many auditions over the years and think some of them I'm like this is literally. They're mentioning the zoo. I in shore Z, I'm like I am, I'm filming this from the zoo like yeah, I have over 10 years of experience as an actor. I should be able to pull this off at some point. I should be able to book one, but I never have yet. So you just so that one kind of.
Speaker 4:I think those ones stick with me after a little bit too, Because I'm like I think I have a shot. I live, I'm from the zoo, like this is the guy grew up with these guys these are my best buddies from high school. On these shows Like I know this world. But that doesn't guarantee anything at all. So they're, but they do. When you can really relate to something, I think that's when, when there's a piece of your home in it, that or like a personal connection to it. Whether it be that or, yeah, I don't know there's a personal connection with those stories. So sometimes it sticks with me a bit more, where all week I'm like I wonder if I'll hear, and then, and then I don't. So I am humble.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's the same thing with Jimmy andorgia, like after living in the south for 10 years, right, it's like, and then it fell in your hometown and you're the same thing filming in your hometown. You're just like you feel differently about a project when, when, yeah, when, you have that connection. But again, for the most part, I think we. I think once you've been doing it for a while, you start to just be like let's see what. What happens now? Yep, that can be really really taxing on some people and they'll take breaks or they'll leave the industry because it is sometimes it's actually funny, because it's not necessarily rejection, because it's not like they send you a sorry, it didn't happen. And that can be worse. But actually I find it better now because you kind of just let it go and it's gone. But if somebody were to send me an email every single time being like you're not pick, I'd be like yeah, yeah, those would be hard emails to receive if you're getting those all the time.
Speaker 3:When you get the script, it could be like thick, like a book, right? Or is it just your lines or like, or do they break it down into like sections or parts? You know it's just like a book, but it'll be like. Sarah says this, trish says this door opens here, trish comes in. How do you memorize all this stuff?
Speaker 4:josh. Well, for if you're going to set and you booked the role, those in between moments of usually you'll like you, you read through it so many times before you go so you have an idea of what the actions are as well as your dialogue. But you block when you get to set with the director so they'll show you how they actually want to play out the scene. And I find that's when everything just makes sense and sticks because it's really not the scene. And I find that's when everything just makes sense and sticks because it's really not. It's just the scene, is what your idea of the scene is. But you're going to go to set and they're going to show you exactly where you're going to stand and they put little pieces of tape on the floor for your marks. So you block it all out with the other actors and the directors. I find that's when it just really becomes a dance and it sticks.
Speaker 4:But then, in terms of self-tap, you don't actually do all the actions from the. They're a little bit more still. You're not necessarily doing all the actions. Like if it says you hug someone, you might not mimic that in a self-tape or you might like kind of lean forward, but then I don't know, there's different ways to do it. I feel like self-taping is a different way of. They often want you against a blank wall, um, with framing of about like, yeah, the top of your chest up to your head, so you're not moving as much often because it's just tighter framing, yeah well, when you're reading the script, how often, uh, are you allowed to improv, you know?
Speaker 3:or do you have to strictly stick to you know, like if you forget something in a line but you throw something in kind of like to cover it up? How often is that?
Speaker 2:It's very dependent on the production. It's also very dependent on the director. Television usually you're not messing with it. There's writers in the room. For a reason they have written it the way they in the room for a reason. They they have written it the way they want it for a certain reason, and it could even be something. It was funny actually.
Speaker 2:I was on a. I was on a film where the one character kept like I'll just use an example, I can't remember what the word was, but say they said exactly and the other one was precisely. They were very. The director was like you need to say exactly, because in such and such part this is what happens and it refers back to this moment of the word exactly. So there's sometimes there's reasons why words are placed the way that they are, or, but usually television there's not a lot of wiggle room.
Speaker 2:If you're a smaller person, if you're a bigger person on television they're usually usually collaborating and I have been on sets where the lead is doing lines. You're just like where did any of these come from? Tv movies, like a movie of the week, they're usually pretty flexible, as long as you're getting the general idea out. Now it does get tricky, of course, because you have someone on the other end who is sometimes waiting for that key word. They're waiting for you to say something and they're listening for that last word and if you don't deliver it they might miss their cue to come in. So you don't want to go too far off, but I've had a line here and there where I'm just like, ah, it doesn't really work. Or when I'm delivering it, it doesn't make sense, and you can just say, can I, can I switch this out? And for the most part they're usually, they're usually pretty easy about it. But yeah, if you forget, you throw in something and if it works, it works, and if not, they'll tell you.
Speaker 4:And sometimes they'll keep. Like you would never cut yourself, you would just keep going and the direct roll call cut if they have to cut it. But in a scene there you're doing so many different angles that even if you said the word clunky or wrong from the script, that in that take they might want you to, they'll probably let you keep going. And then you might say, oh sorry, I got what was the actual scripted word. And you ask the script supervisor, they'll tell you and then you're like right, ok. And the director's like don't even worry about it, I'm not even using that part of that scene, I'm cutting around it. I know what? Yeah, they're like don't even worry, so it's still still a good take. Like they'll kind of communicate that with you. They'll be like don't even worry about it, but yeah, in this take mash it up with this. You'll have those conversations.
Speaker 3:If you guys could be on any TV show, past or present, what would be your? Well, a rom-com, a comedy, a different you know, somebody else's lead role? What would be, you know, growing up and watching all these TV and movies, what inspired you to like, do this career?
Speaker 2:Okay, that's a lot of questions.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we'll break it down. Movies what inspired you to like do?
Speaker 2:this career? Okay, that's a lot of questions. Yeah, I won't break it down. I heard me to do this career. I have no idea, just always wanted to do it, thought it was fun, thought it would be, you know, really exciting. Loved being other people, so it's, I mean, it's a very for me. It was just kind of it is what it is, that's what I want to do. It wasn't any specific moment or any specific thing that happened.
Speaker 2:Something I have always, always wanted I'm getting a little old here is to be the lead of a Christmas movie, like a Christmas rom-com. I literally carry in my wallet and it's been in there for a while lead of a Christmas film, and it's written on a little card and I sit it in my wallet and I carry it everywhere and it's like written on a little card and I sit in my wallet and I carry it everywhere and it's like my manifestation for that and, as we talked earlier, like a TV series like Jenny in Georgia, where I just have that connection with my hometown and from living in Kentucky and the mom daughter relationship and that sort of thing. So it's just something that sticks, I guess. Of course there's always the dream of being in the big films, on movie sets and that sort of thing. But I'm talking, if we were just talking about what I would want to do in Canada, there would be that Plus.
Speaker 2:I love to travel. So if I could do anything where like going to Vancouver to film in Vancouver and I could see family or filming in Halifax where my husband's from Nova Scotia and my daughter lives in Nova Scotia just outside to Vancouver to film in Vancouver, and I could see family or filming in Halifax, where, you know, my husband's from Nova Scotia and my daughter lives in Nova Scotia just outside of Halifax those are opportunities where I get to do like a two bird one stone, so I get to see, I get to see some family and and also I don't know, so that's kind of fun. Yeah, I have a long list of things I'd love to do, you know, and they all something will happen and some things will and some things won't. I have my big I don't know about you, trish I have a vision board in my office and then I look at it every day and I've got little cutouts of all the things I want to do and you know, you hope that some of them happen is vision boards work?
Speaker 4:yeah, oh yeah, I haven't made a vision board in a while. I used to do them digitally, like in the last year I have, or two years I have, but not consistently. But years ago I used to do vision boards and I had a wish box and, looking back at all the wishes in the wish box, very most of those things have come true.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so my favorite is putting it off the pin board because it's like, yes, I did it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I think you've inspired me to get a Bristol board and do a physical vision board again. Maybe get some of that excitement back.
Speaker 3:Lisa Crawford told me to get a vision board because it works.
Speaker 4:Because she said she believes in it. Sure, she manifested me being on a billboard in New York City in Times Square. Within a week she says something and she can make it happen. She said she wanted to see Pink is In on a billboard and I think she said Times Square. So she told me this on the phone and a week later I got an inbox from this company I had done when we were doing AI headshots when they first were coming out and being more I don't know people were experimenting with them. I tried them out with this female owned company. She was really lovely.
Speaker 4:We were going back and forth, they edited some of the photos for me and I just thought it was fun to try because I was in a pinch for some headshots and I couldn't get any in with anyone locally Living in Sault Ste Marie. I tried, sent out a few emails and couldn't get something. But I needed something right away. So I had one of my selfies, or some of my selfies, turned into these photos in the meantime, and so fast forward about like nine months later and Lisa said that on the phone and then within a week, the owner of that company messaged me and said hey, we're featuring some of the women who have gotten photos headshots done with us at our company, in on a billboard in New York City in Times Square, and we'd like you to post your photo and, based on the comments and interactions, we'll pick a few winners.
Speaker 4:And then a couple days later she said You've been selected. And then I really wanted to fly to New York to see it. But I watched, I live streamed on my phone and saw it with my own eyes. Screen recorded it. One of the other women that was, or a couple of the other women that were featured, went to New York for it and they got me some photos and videos. So it was Lisa, it was all Lisa, I'm convinced.
Speaker 3:When I seen that headshot in New York and Times Square I actually got happy, you know, because I know how hard you work as an actor and as a person and how cool you are. I'm always rooting for you guys, like because I want to turn on my TV and I want to see you and I want to say I know them, I know that worked for Sarah on the one. See you and I want to say I know them.
Speaker 4:I know that worked for Sarah on the one you came on the first time, the day before your lifetime show aired my husband's worst nickname yes, and.
Speaker 3:I was like she was on my podcast, like I got all proud, like a moment of proudness. But you guys are so amazing that what you do and I appreciate the time that you're taking to do this. I know you guys are so amazing at what you do and I appreciate the time that you're taking to do this. I know you guys have your film festivals that you're going to be getting ready for. Well, like Sarah's Eye to Eye Film Festival, which is running June 7th to June 9th. That's coming up and I've seen some of the speakers on that in Colbert at Victoria Hall. I thought that was really cool, you know, and I'm like man, I should try to get up there just to see how a film festival is, because I've never been to one.
Speaker 3:And then you have the Sault Ste Marie Film Festival, which runs November 29th to December 1st, and again, you have great speakers at your film festival and master classes and people that you could just like eat all this information from. So again, I appreciate you guys so much and if there's anything that I could do down here for you, don't hesitate, let me know. Like I see pictures of stairs sometimes she's in illinois and I'm like, hey, wait a minute. I know that spot. Oh, are you still there? You're like nah, just passing through, but and then season four of Pink is in. I'm waiting for Tubi to pick that up, you know. So you guys could start on that, because that's like I'm always saving that one week of vacation just to come up there Come to the past.
Speaker 3:So, lisa, we all need to start visualizing. Pink is in 4 on a vision board here because and Sarah did it.
Speaker 4:I think Sarah needs to be in the show. I'll start a vision board and I'll put all my Pink is in stuff all over it for a season 4.
Speaker 2:I love it If we have a vault vision board and then Scott adds it to like a do you think it's just like a lot of really goodness? Look it has.
Speaker 4:Oh, and I saw a really interesting thing on tiktok this week. I just want to add it in regards to taking the vision board to the next level. If you want to send a message to someone, this person on tiktok said to send a laser beam from your thoughts and imagine it hitting them like smack in, like the middle of their eyebrows, and it's not so sweet. No, like a positive laser beam with the, the message you're trying to send them. Like ryan gosling, work with trisha and sarah, look us up, twins for real. Ryan gosling, ryan reynolds, send beams. We're all Canadians. We're all Canadians. We're doing it together.
Speaker 2:But I do want to know if you have questions for us. Before we go today, though, because that's my favorite part.
Speaker 3:All right, I'm going to try to memorize these, because I don't have them with me. Okay, you don't have questions. We were going for them. Well, if you want, I'll go run and get the five questions because they're a little bit oddball, okay.
Speaker 4:Can we ask you five questions? Oh, that's a good one. I think I come up with five oddball questions for you, Scott.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I got a question, though for you guys. Though I'll take your guys' questions, I've never been asked questions.
Speaker 2:No, don't put me on the spot. Don't put me on the Scott spot. Okay, go ahead, Scott.
Speaker 3:All right, this one's a little gross, but just go along with it, all right. Okay, so Sarah, fart in a full elevator, or really loud belch during a public speech.
Speaker 2:Did you say, fart in a full elevator?
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I would do that. I blame it on Trish.
Speaker 4:Oh, thanks, Thanks. So never get you know that if sarah nobody ever thinks that's a girl.
Speaker 2:I would totally fart in the elevator yeah that's a good point.
Speaker 4:People always blame the old man oh, that would be me I would do the same because, yeah, if you fart you can blame someone else, and if you burp and you're doing a speech, everyone's gonna know it was you and it's also gonna be on everybody's instagram because everyone was recording it.
Speaker 2:So then it's good, gonna go viral and you don't need that in your life. But no, it's just funny that you asked that question, because the other day we were in the car and I was like, do you remember that jeb carey movie? When he gets, he couldn't lie and he gets out of that. Yeah, I'm not moving.
Speaker 3:Liar, liar just just asking him questions. That's funny. Uh, how about would you rather not go on any dates or any relationships for a whole year, or a bad date every night?
Speaker 2:yeah, I'd I'd be a no date. No date, yeah, I don't need it, although I will tell you I have a lot of friends in the dating world right now online, and they are keeping me entertained. So, yeah, this is a story, oh yeah.
Speaker 4:It's not good. I'm jealous of all the like fancy dinners Some of them are eating, because my husband and I, if we go out, it's for nachos on a Friday night, that's our big outing. We're going for weaver's tonight. Gravel last night, wings will probably be doing about the same. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:See, I love wings, so that's a good meal. Nachos too.
Speaker 4:Yeah, nachos are great, I'm not complaining. But I do see their like fancy meals in the CN Tower restaurant because they're on a first date with some guy who's trying to impress them and it looks kind of exciting. But also when I hear the story.
Speaker 2:It looks very blurting.
Speaker 3:You know, I got hooked on a TV show called Lux Listings, toronto.
Speaker 4:Oh, I just started watching that yesterday.
Speaker 3:How amazing it's somebody's house.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm like watching that yesterday how amazing somebody's houses.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm like how did I never become a luxury real estate agent when I was living in Toronto? Why was I pursuing acting? I could have pursued both and I could have been a billionaire now.
Speaker 3:So would you guys rather do a rom-com or action movie or comedy?
Speaker 2:Mine's rom-com. I love rom-coms, I think they're just. But it has to be like a good 90s one, Like they're just so cute.
Speaker 4:There's all Sandra Bullock ones, yeah.
Speaker 2:Like Reese Witherspoon one. Oh my God, Like they were so good.
Speaker 4:Yeah, even the J-Lo ones were pretty good, I know were so good. Yeah, even the J? Jlo ones were pretty good. Everyone likes yeah, yeah, that was a good one.
Speaker 2:Oh, julia Robert, cameron Diaz, my best friend's wedding, that's the best one I know that one actually told me the other day they're like oh my God, you look like Cameron Diaz, but my best friend's wedding Cameron Diaz, not current Cameron Diaz. Like Cameron Diaz, but my best friend's wedding Cameron Diaz, not current Cameron Diaz. I was like that's the nicest thing you've ever said to me.
Speaker 4:She's 20. In my best friend's wedding she was literally 20 when they filmed that. The best scene ever is her karaoke scene. I just don't know what to do with myself.
Speaker 2:Yeah, one of my favorite lines, still to this day, is you're never, never gonna be creme brulee. You will always be. Always, that's what it is. You're creme brulee. You're never gonna be jealous. I've had to, yeah, I'm right, that's julia roberts.
Speaker 4:Who's creme and who's jello? Says it to her. Cameragy has this character. You're never going to be Jello.
Speaker 2:Never be Jello. I want to be Jello Jello. Sorry, okay, scott, we're done. We were just having a moment. I had to correct my mistake.
Speaker 4:Oh, we should reenact that as one of our reels. Let's reenact that one. Let's find that audio. Okay, all right, audio okay, all right, we'll dedicate it you scott great, who edits those?
Speaker 2:we take turns awesome, awesome.
Speaker 3:Would you rather uh take a mountain resort or a beach vacation?
Speaker 2:beach. So I actually don't like sand. Um, I think beaches are the most beautiful thing in the entire world. I hate sand with a passion. I don't like it on my feet. I don't like it in my food. I don't like it in crevices that it does not belong in. I do not like taking children to the beach. It is like the worst. You're like terrified the whole time of them in the water. You have to try and clean them off before you put them in the car Car seats when they were little. Oh my God, it would just get like it. It's a nightmare. And then you have to vacuum it and you're bathing them. When you walk in it it's a whole mess. So sounds horrible, it's terrible. But if I go to a resort in a nice place that has a pool off the beach, I will happily lay by that pool. Do not ask me to go to that beach I don't think anyone likes sand.
Speaker 4:I've never heard someone who detests it that much but like I do. To clarify no one likes sand. I don't think anyone does. If you like sand, write into scott and let him know, because I think that might be the sign of something, because who wants sand in their like crusty sand in your toes or in your shoes, and your shoes are kind of wet because you forgot to wear flip-flops and you've worn running shoes. Oh, just gross.
Speaker 2:I love when you come off the beach. They've got the little thing to wash your feet and it's like what good is that going to do?
Speaker 3:I'm going to put my shoes back on and then I'm just going to pick up all the other stuff again. It doesn't work. Yeah, it's gross. Or you go home and they take a shower and the next day you put those shoes on oh there's still sand. You got sand all in their feet again. Or your car True story.
Speaker 2:My husband is from Nova Scotia and he loves. He loves the ocean, loves water, and I came to realize that my husband falls asleep near water. I mean, he falls asleep anywhere ever like all the time. So if we went to the beach, this is what it would require and this is where my like frustration comes from. It would require me packing the diaper bags, packing the kids, packing their sunscreen. Getting them all taken care of, that's another thing. Sunscreen and sand gross, doesn't work. Uh yeah, getting them ready, putting their hats on them, being miserable, you go, hot, they're, they're. They're hot in there. They're now staying in their food. They don't want to eat it and he's snoring away.
Speaker 2:Then it would be like get trying to get them cleaned off, you know, trying to get the stuff out of their whatever, changing diapers that's a whole thing and then putting them back in the car. And then getting home and then having to unload all of that stuff, rinse it all off, give them baths, get them in pajamas, vacuum the car, and I was like you know what? I am never doing this again. I learned after it took me too many, too many tries to learn this. And so after that I was like if you want to go to the beach? That's great. I'm going to stay home with your mom and I would pack them up and I would send them and I would read a book and I realized I really enjoyed that much more.
Speaker 4:Sounds like a nice vacation.
Speaker 2:Yep, I just reading my mother. My mother-in-law would be like don't you want to go to the beach with them? I'm like, no, I don't. No, it's a lot of a pool, Sure. Anyway, that's my fun story about that. I know I'm very passionate about sand.
Speaker 4:Note to self, if I have children or a child, because let's face it none of them. There's going to be multiples Knock on wood Pools, pools, Pools.
Speaker 2:Anyway, that's my story.
Speaker 3:You know, like if you don't have the sand beach, you get the gravel beach. But who wants to sit on gravel?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, great. No one. And I will say, just so you don't think I'm a horrible parent, every one of my children have buried me multiple times, all the way up to my neck in it. So, oh no, I can tell you no, yeah, well, I'm not sure I was on a news story recently where someone died from doing that.
Speaker 4:They got like some bugs into their like. They crawled into their skin. It's a horror thing.
Speaker 2:Now I have a reason not to do it even more. Thank you, that's great, you're welcome.
Speaker 3:Scientific. So would you rather have a permanent clown face or a permanent clown outfit Outfit?
Speaker 4:Clown outfit. Those look comfy minus the shoes. The shoes are a little big.
Speaker 2:Wait, do we have to wear the nose the whole time, or that considered face?
Speaker 3:It would be face, I think.
Speaker 2:Hey, good, I'll go outfit.
Speaker 4:Yeah, have you seen the guy online with red hair who wears an outfit that looks like a clown outfit and he's going to pick up something from a marketplace swap for his mom or like a marketplace deal and he walks up in their ring camera their like driveway camera records it and the lady is with her kid and that there's two women in a kid and they turn around and see him and they just shriek bloody murder and he's like I'm sorry he has like such a gentle, sweet voice. I'm just here to pick up something for my mom. So now he has gone viral and he wears that outfit all the time because it legit looks like a clown outfit. But he didn't know it did at the time. That's funny until everyone on the internet said, wow, that looks like a clown. So he's leaning into it. I used to be a clown.
Speaker 2:I used to go with my mom my mom was rainbow and I was sparkles and we would go and we did balloon animals and we painted faces at birthday parties and at fairs and you were always an actor.
Speaker 3:We have something somewhat in common I used to do magic shows at kids' birthday parties.
Speaker 2:Wow, we would have been at the same parties if we lived in the same space. That's so cool.
Speaker 3:But a little pony did me out so I stopped being a magician. It's too much to compete with that horse. You know, I used to do low-income parties, People that couldn't afford entertainment for their kids in Gary, indiana. A lot of people, you know, can't afford stuff, so whatever they want to pay, I did it just for fun, you know, and and somebody brought a pony in and all the kids left me to go to that horse. So now I'm like upset about that horse.
Speaker 2:You're like I'm not wasting my time.
Speaker 3:Darn pony, right, right, right. I mean, the horse is probably triple my price. Last question for you would you rather this is a big one, because I'm torn at it have a personal chef or a personal masseuse?
Speaker 4:Yeah, chef, because you can roll around in the floor with a tennis ball, but you can't make a tennis. A tennis ball can't make you dinner.
Speaker 3:Right on Again. I appreciate your time and I know I keep saying it and keep rambling on. I do appreciate both of you and I wish you guys both luck in whatever your upcoming projects are. I'm sure I'll see you. Yeah, thanks again. Thanks a million. Thank you for having us. We'll come back anytime.
Speaker 2:Anytime, I'll say that you guys be on next month. Well, we have to do just a little shout out here to Cameron Diaz and Kate Winslet, because we tried to like really tell them how much we love them on the last one and we lost the audio. So I think it's really important that we just talk about the fact that the holidays like our ultimate favorite movie and their ultimate favorite actresses, and we just adore them, and I'm going to put that out there into the universe to manifest that. There you go, trish, I did it for you, you and me. You go, trish, I did it for you you and me, let's do it.
Speaker 3:It'll go on the. It'll go on the vision board on the board on the board and backstage at taylor swift concert right?
Speaker 4:oh yeah, taylor. Um, we're both coming to shows in toronto era's tour and we would love to be best friends. So, travis, kathy, taylor, we're sending you laser beams whoever it can get through Taylor Nation, whoever's running the Instagram, we're sending you all the laser beams to look us up and ask us to come backstage to become best friends with Taylor.
Speaker 2:I'm pretty sure after you and your dress that you've been wearing and rocking out in your backyard, plus the little Barbie in the dress on the Roomba, I think you deserve all the taylor love like 100 thank you.
Speaker 4:That's my poetry duvet cover and it's coming in handy finally.
Speaker 3:So great, it's a vacuum cleaner genius. All right, ladies, I will talk to you guys later and, uh, we'll have to catch up again sometime down the road.
Speaker 4:Sounds good.
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Speaker 3:Amazing people and very helpful, very nice and, yeah, very helpful. Sarah and Trish, I can't tell you enough how much I appreciate you all. Well, jim does too, and thank you both for jumping on this pod with us. Yeah, check out the reels again twins for real on Facebook and Sarah and Trish on Instagram. You'll learn a lot. You'll be glad you did, jim. Yes, we're going to take off, ok, but before we do, I was ready to leave. Hit me up.
Speaker 5:Hit me up with that quote, like when they were talking about battling to uh get parts or go on auditions and and just the battle of uh, sometimes with uh acting in that uh. This one is from actress lauren bacall. You don't always win your battles, but it's good to know you fought. Wow, I really like that one.
Speaker 3:I thought it hit perfect here yeah, that's a good way to end this show. So, for those that are listening at home or in their car or in the showers and used to say a bathtub rubbing up and all that, uh, thank you all for for tuning in and uh, we'll be back next week with, uh, some more crazy antics. So we'll talk to you later. Bye.