Ever encountered a mayonnaise explosion in an IMAX theater? That's just one of the laugh-out-loud moments we recount on this rollercoaster of an episode. We reflect on the emotional journey of watching the Blue Angels movie, touching on its deep personal significance and the dream of soaring through the skies with them. Alongside our friends, we let our imaginations run wild, pondering what it would be like to experience the thrilling adventure of flying in one of their jets.
From the heights of aviation to the bright lights of Broadway, we switch gears to celebrate the magic of theater. Reminiscing about iconic shows like Les Misérables and current stars like Sarah Paulson, we revel in the authenticity and dedication that live performances bring. But that's not all; get ready for some fun as we introduce Bark Air, the ultimate luxury airline for dogs and their owners, complete with in-flight dog parks and over-the-top amenities. It's a delightful mix of culture, travel, and pet pampering that will have you dreaming of extravagant adventures with your furry friends.
As Memorial Day approaches, we take a moment to honor its origins and reflect on the evolution of the "nervous breakdown." Sharing personal experiences and insights into mental health, we explore the nuanced differences between being nervous and being ill, guided by the wisdom of classical Chinese medicine. We also dive into the world of channeling with Bashar, discuss the importance of end-of-life planning, and sprinkle in some regional humor and personal anecdotes. This episode is a heartfelt and engaging blend of laughter, reflection, and genuine connection.
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Ever encountered a mayonnaise explosion in an IMAX theater? That's just one of the laugh-out-loud moments we recount on this rollercoaster of an episode. We reflect on the emotional journey of watching the Blue Angels movie, touching on its deep personal significance and the dream of soaring through the skies with them. Alongside our friends, we let our imaginations run wild, pondering what it would be like to experience the thrilling adventure of flying in one of their jets.
From the heights of aviation to the bright lights of Broadway, we switch gears to celebrate the magic of theater. Reminiscing about iconic shows like Les Misérables and current stars like Sarah Paulson, we revel in the authenticity and dedication that live performances bring. But that's not all; get ready for some fun as we introduce Bark Air, the ultimate luxury airline for dogs and their owners, complete with in-flight dog parks and over-the-top amenities. It's a delightful mix of culture, travel, and pet pampering that will have you dreaming of extravagant adventures with your furry friends.
As Memorial Day approaches, we take a moment to honor its origins and reflect on the evolution of the "nervous breakdown." Sharing personal experiences and insights into mental health, we explore the nuanced differences between being nervous and being ill, guided by the wisdom of classical Chinese medicine. We also dive into the world of channeling with Bashar, discuss the importance of end-of-life planning, and sprinkle in some regional humor and personal anecdotes. This episode is a heartfelt and engaging blend of laughter, reflection, and genuine connection.
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Welcome to the Cat and Moose podcast. I'm Cat and I'm Moose.
Speaker 2:This is a true life podcast where we explore the quirks of being human.
Speaker 1:So the shirt that I'm wearing today I wore to from our episode last week. Some of you might remember that I went and saw the Blue Angels movie at the IMAX theater the last day that it was showing and I was wearing this t-shirt and I got a medium thing of popcorn with butter throughout, which is how I love to be high maintenance and do. And I also got a hot dog and ever since I lived in Germany, I put mayonnaise on everything, and so I like to have mayonnaise and ketchup on my hot dogs. And ever since I lived in Germany, I put mayonnaise on everything, and so I like to have mayonnaise and ketchup on my hot dogs. And so I'm sitting in my chair in the IMAX thing with my friend who went with me and she was sitting to my right and I'm obviously sitting to her left and I put my hot dog in my lap and I got out my iPhone, so I had a flashlight and this was before previews and all that and I I took, you got your flashlight out for your condiments?
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I couldn't see you know it's so dark in there and my vision's different, and so so anyway, so I opened the packet of mayonnaise and somehow, in my forcefulness and opening the packet of mayonnaise, the mayonnaise went everywhere, landed on. My friend got mayonnaise on her shirt in two different places and I had, I had, these big hunks of mayonnaise on my shirt, and so I know I was so sad because this shirt now has like mayonnaise stains. You can kind of see it if you look. I don't see any stains, I think you're all right.
Speaker 2:I mean, you had a mayo incident, you sure?
Speaker 1:did. I had a mayo incident. Yes, I did.
Speaker 2:That's great.
Speaker 1:Was the movie good? Oh my gosh, it was so inspiring and the plot there really wasn't one. So if you're going to see like a story, like it's not, it's not a thing. But if you want to see the you know, and like the training and in the behind the scenes and stuff like that, it's very, very moving. I spent the first 10 minutes of the movie doing one of these Because it just made me cry. It made me so happy that I just like it's like my emotions could not handle how good and sad, you know. Because, like the Blue Angels remind me of my dad and of my family. Before my dad was not, you know, a part of my family after the divorce and after he died, and so it just the Blue Angels have a lot, there's a lot packed in those afterburners for me and I just really let myself feel it and I was that person in the theater that was like I don't care.
Speaker 2:Do you think there, I feel like you always wanted to fly with the blue angels. Do you think you have like regret? You're never going to do that, or something?
Speaker 1:I think I'm going to do it, oh it.
Speaker 2:Oh, you are gonna do it still. Yeah, I love that you've got to do yeah I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 1:I mean the, the blue angel number seven is the pr plane, like they use that plane specifically to take, you know, people of influence. Quote unquote, which I could arguably nominate myself as a person of influence even though I might only be influencing like eight people.
Speaker 4:I still.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've got a podcast, so, yes, I have not given up on that dream, have not? The thing that I worry about is that, um, I, just I, I don't. I think I might be exceeding the weight limit right now.
Speaker 2:So do you know that we had this exact conversation like three years?
Speaker 1:ago. Yes, I do, I do, I do, I remember it.
Speaker 3:Oh my.
Speaker 2:God it's what we do. It is what we do, so you could um, you could ask them if there's a two seater and just pull up the handle in the middle Like to eject myself. Yeah, I think that if, for some reason, you feel like you're not comfortable in there, then you just go. Yeah, I mean, sounds right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:You could get like a a free jump out of a plane card. Card I Card.
Speaker 1:I love it. I love it. Would you guys do it with me? Jump out of a plane? No, not jump out of a plane. Would you guys, if, like the Blue Angels, wanted to take Cat and Moose the Cat and Moose podcast on a flight, like, and we each got to go up in plane number seven like individually with plane number seven pilot, like, would you do it? Oh yeah, hell yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay, I would like to explore what the first thought is in each of our minds when she said that you first Sarah.
Speaker 4:The first thought was as long as I don't have to jump out or drive it. My first thought was as long as I don't have to jump out or drive it.
Speaker 2:My first thought is I would shit my pants once you hit like a certain speed.
Speaker 5:I would just like everything would just explode.
Speaker 1:What was yours, kat, is that. I don't want it to be over. Oh yeah, I want to remember every single way that all the 500 trillion cell trillion Wow, the 500 trillion trillion, trillion, 500 trillion.
Speaker 1:I thought I saw a putty tat. I did, I did. I did see a putty tat. I want my 500 trillion cells to just get to roll around in every moment, from putting on the flight suit, to getting in the plane, to having somebody take video of it, to taking off, and it's like when it's time, when it's like, well, miss Davis, we're about to land, you know, it's like, oh no, I don't want it to end.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you never want things to end.
Speaker 1:I don't. I like to feel good, I just really like to feel good.
Speaker 4:Never Just kidding, amen.
Speaker 2:Amen. Okay, speaking of the Blue Angels I want to talk about. I'm thinking about a few things, so, oh, you want to choose. Okay, nervous breakdown. There's. There's a topic, um. The other topics that I would like to cover today are um, have it taking a gap year, and then um. The third is annie defranco wow, sarah, oh man, let's start with annie okay, so this does not tie into what you're just talking about, but the others do speaking of the blue angels, let's talk about annie defranco, let's talk about people who inspire us People and things that inspire
Speaker 2:us. So yeah, my early 20s, I think, is when I was a big fan because she was a feminist and all the things. And anyway, this past weekend I had a chance to see her in the Broadway play Hadestown and she was incredible and um, it was just fascinating to see someone that is this like super hippie, um, singer, songwriter, be as expressive as she needed to be for this Broadway play and um, and it was super, super cool and, uh, I felt the way that you just described with the blue angels, Like I did not want it to be over. I, I was just smiling the whole time. Yes, it was so cool.
Speaker 1:Love that, I love that. What was that? What's the storyline?
Speaker 2:that. What was that? What's the storyline? It's like a greek uh story situation tragedy. Yeah, um, and a nice mitchell wrote it. She's a folk singer in her own right. She wrote the whole play and it's been on broadway for five years. The show we went to was like the 1500th show, wow, yeah, it was really cool, but Ani, I guess, has just been on this latest season of it and I was like I gotta go see her in this um. So the idea is, uh, I would say there's a love story in it and it's a good and evil story, as as things are, and it's also a hey, sometimes things don't work out the way you want them to, um, and how do you witness and and be with that, and so it sounds like star wars meets a lifetime movie yeah, exactly, maybe so a little bit more crud than a Lifetime movie, though.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay.
Speaker 4:Um, well, I will say it was kind of like the story of like Hades and Persephone and then Orpheus and I can't remember the girl's name that he falls in love with. Um, and then Hermes is another character, that's kind of like the narrator of it, but it was. It was my first broadway, like true broadway show, and I was.
Speaker 4:I was like literally like had my hands on my knees and I was just like like this the whole time wide-eyed and I um, just it was so cool because the band was incorporated into the set on stage, so you had like a trombone player and like a like a cellist and a violin maybe over here, and then over here it was like piano and guitar and upright bass and then the drummer was like kind of underneath part of the set and it was just so cool and everyone had such a great voice and I mean it's Broadway, so like they're, they're all like stellar, you know, yeah, yeah, but I was just totally immersed, completely.
Speaker 1:It was such a good, good time. Oh, I'm so glad that you guys got to enjoy that. And your first Broadway show, Sarah. Like I love that you enjoyed it so much. I did, I really did. I'm totally in now, Moose, was that your first Broadway show? I don't think it was. Was it Because you lived in New York?
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I've seen a few. I've seen a few. I've seen Les Mis. Les Mis is one of my favorites, and then a few others that are lesser known that I can't remember the name of that I've had the chance to see Right now Sarah Paulson is in a show called Appropriate, and I really want to go back to New York and see her in it. I'm amazed at how many actors and actresses right now are doing Broadway.
Speaker 1:It's like. It's like the cool thing right now. Yeah, like, um, sarah Bareilles had that, is it the waitress? Is that the one that she was a part of? And then it seems like, did Ingrid Michaelson do something, or am I making that up? I feel like she wrote a Broadway show or something that. Yeah, it's like how neat, like I love that. It's like in a day and age where it feels like everything's about the algorithm, like there's something that feels kind of analog about Broadway.
Speaker 1:It's like you can't fake like improv Not that it's improv but it's like you can't fake, like that environment, like you either have shown up or you have it. You know, I really appreciate that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and I loved, like even when you know the lights or the focus was very clearly on this one character. Even the characters that were in the shadows of the set are still in full character, like they're just like fully in. It's so fun. It was really a cool experience.
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm so, so glad that you guys got to experience that. That's great.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and we went with a small group of friends and it was just like fun to travel together. We were there like in and out in like 40 hours and bumpy ride home into weathery Nashville. But it's okay, it was fun.
Speaker 1:It was Cool. Nice Welcome to springtime in Nashville, where every day is a tornado warning.
Speaker 2:It's true. What have you?
Speaker 1:been up to cat. Well, I was thinking about I'm still a little bit stuck back on Broadway and I was thinking about did you guys take your dogs? No I flew, oh, but that doesn't stop you from taking your dogs down. You know the people who started, invented and and regularly put out the bark box.
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Speaker 2:Well, that's not going to happen.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean I was thinking we could just tap into our Patreon fund. I mean we've got millions in there. We're saving and saving, yes, yes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're saving for vacation. Just for the flight, basically just for the flight, yeah, yeah but isn't that so cool that they invented that?
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Speaker 1:I know, I know there's so many reasons we need to be rich. So that's what I've been thinking about is oh my gosh, did you go to Broadway and did you take your dogs and did you fly Bark Air there? Did you drive all the way to LA just to fly from LA to New York? We did not.
Speaker 2:It is something I would do for the dogs.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, indeed, indeed. I'm about to go on vacation this week and I, as we talked about last week, I'm going to Savannah, georgia, and the day that we're recording is on Memorial Day. So you're not listening on Memorial Day, and I hope you had a happy Memorial Day. So I thought we would talk a little bit about the origins of Memorial Day. And did you guys know that Memorial Day dates back to just after the Civil War?
Speaker 1:No, no give us give us what you got. Well, I understand that Memorial Day is basically a day to memorialize and commemorate US armed forces in every capacity, whether that's Civil War, world War I to the Korean War, vietnam, you know, the desert, I mean all the wars, all the things, all the terribleness that has happened in the world that our military has so what's the word I'm looking for has so generously volunteered themselves to serve for our country, and so Memorial Day is just a day to celebrate that. And I think that in some traditions, you know, people have talked about also expanding it to first responders and, you know, doctors and nurses and stuff like that. It's like, really, people who are just in service to other people, and I just thought it might be sweet if we dedicated this episode to all of our veterans, all of our current armed forces, as well as first responders.
Speaker 2:Agreed, we love you.
Speaker 1:We appreciate you Consider yourself dedicated to.
Speaker 2:You have been dedicated, you've been dedicated to. I wanted to talk about the origins of something as well, and before I really share it with you, I would like to everyone to kind of take a couple breaths and think about the symptoms you've had recently in your life Low self-esteem, fearfulness, irritability, worrying, feeling helpless, getting angry easily, withdrawing from family and friends, losing interest in your favorite activities, difficulty breathing, uncontrollable crying or stress becoming unbearable.
Speaker 5:Hmm.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I resonate with about 70% of those.
Speaker 2:Okay, how about you, sarah?
Speaker 4:Yeah, probably 60, 70. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay, good, so you qualify as having a nervous breakdown.
Speaker 1:Great. Thank you Fantastic.
Speaker 2:Okay, so I went on this little. Uh, I need to name what these things are. They're like when I go to my Enneagram five and I just like rabbit hole to a subject do you guys ever do that oh?
Speaker 2:yeah, it's like a journey, yeah, and so I, being a feminist leaning back on some Ani DeFranco, feminist leaning back on some Ani DiFranco I have always found it interesting that you know, like pre 1980s baby, that whenever a woman specifically was dealing with any kind of anxiety or stress or overwhelming let's just say she might actually be expressing her feelings Often she was put away because she was having a nervous breakdown, and part of me has always taken offense to that phrase like nervous breakdown. And then I got into my forties and the other day I had this huge aha moment where I was like, oh, I'm having a nervous breakdown. I've heard you describe, uh, your own nervous breakdowns as of late. I don't know that you called it that but, like you've joked on the podcast about like impending doom and all these different things that may be related to menopause but may also be what some used to call a nervous breakdown. So I did a deep dive into the history of the nervous breakdown and I would like to share that with you guys.
Speaker 4:Oh boy All right.
Speaker 2:So right here. Uh, let's's see, I want to give credit where credit is due. This is from the science museum in the uk the nervous breakdown. In the 1700s, the term nervous breakdown referred to a specific medical disorder that was emphatically a disease of the nerves, not a disease of the mind the yeah of shaking around nervously.
Speaker 2:The difference was subtle but crucial, as it kept patients out of asylums. So that was in the 1700s. Then, it says. The nervous breakdown was also known as the nervous exhaustion and nervous collapse, which I can relate to. It was characterized by pain, weakness, migraine, headaches and fatigue. The condition also included symptoms that we now associate with depression, such as despair, feelings of inadequacy, lack of joy and any aspect of life. So this is the most interesting part Popular and medical opinion linked nervous sensitivity to delicacy and refined sensibilities.
Speaker 2:It allowed people with nervous symptoms to avoid the stigma and prejudice associated with mental illness. The diagnosis of nerves became fashionable among the upper class I'm not ill, but I'm nervous. That was King George III. Upper class I'm not ill, but I'm nervous. That was King George the third, he assured in his court. So what first came to me as I was reading this is my my mean grandma, um, would always say I think we've talked about this before, but like you, kids, make me nervous. Like that was always a phrase she said, and I always thought we make you nervous. Like I always thought nerves were related to like being afraid of something but are they, are they not?
Speaker 2:it's a good question, isn't it? Huh, maybe they are. Well, I shit Cat just shrunk me in one sentence Damn. No, no, no, like a psychologist would shrink you. Not a bad way.
Speaker 5:Oh, okay.
Speaker 2:No, I'm fine, Like you, just like dropped a truth bomb. So maybe a nervous breakdown is being afraid of something.
Speaker 1:I mean the anxiety, fear, inadequacy, I mean all that is fear. Right, Like all that's water element, that's fear.
Speaker 2:When you say that's water element, what does that mean?
Speaker 1:I just mean I dorkily always try to bring everything around to Chinese five element theory.
Speaker 1:I know I dorkily always try to bring everything around to Chinese five element theory, I know, and the water element that's also represented by the color of blue, black, like kind of think of the ocean, like the deep color of the ocean.
Speaker 1:It's associated with the bladder and it's associated with the kidneys, and the kidneys are known to be where we store our absolute essence, like our absolute core energy, our who we are, and the bladder allows the body to let go of anything that is not serving us, like when we have to go pee, you know, and associated with those organs and those emotional experiences, has to do with the, the element of water, and so that's that's what I meant. And emotionally, with the Chinese five elements, each of the elements has, has associated emotions with it, and so fear and trust are the core emotions associated with with water and with those organs. So it just that's where it kind of went in my brain. I love that and it's interesting to me that the urinary bladder meridian, speaking of the nervous system, goes right up and down the spine and over the head.
Speaker 2:Oh really.
Speaker 1:Yeah, where the nervous system is.
Speaker 2:So would we say now that a nervous breakdown is more of a mental thing? Because, to me, I feel like it is a nervous system thing, isn't it? Because I feel like I need to regulate my nervous system.
Speaker 1:I would say it's both and because the body and the mind are not two different things, they're not separate. That's a good reminder, yeah, so it's like, yes, it is a nervous system thing. Like why is there all this like vagus nerve stuff and trauma studies and how to regulate the nervous system, like you were just saying? It's like they're intertwined, like the one, one can't really be without the other. So if you're feeling anxious or nervous, that's not just in your mind, like that's in your body. That's where you get the feelings of tight chest, overwhelmed fear, shaking, you know, wanting to just go to sleep, check out. So to me they're. They're kind of kind of togetherness.
Speaker 2:I love that. I'm very fascinated with um. This is a theory I have that the more authentic we are in our lives, the less struggle we have.
Speaker 1:Do you want me to attempt to rock your world? Yeah, so the the, like I was saying, the kidneys, part of the water element, the kidneys hold our original, true essence, who we are, before the world has broken us, right Before the world has broken us. And so it makes sense to me that the exact opposite of that would be the antithesis of that, the not being oneself, the not being one's true and most authentic self. So to me it's like, yeah, it totally makes sense that those are.
Speaker 2:My mind is just being blown is why I'm staring at you're looking at me like I can't read you, but that is what I'm staring at you. You're looking at me like I can't read you, but that is what I was thinking. I think the thing that blew my mind was that they're not separate, cause I I I spent a lot of time thinking about my heart says this, but my head says this. Or my body says this, but my gut says this, and I forget. I think that there might, they might communicate to one another.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like that, that whole, one of the reasons why the parts work that we talk about all the time is so important, because it's it's allowing those parts that do feel separate to become more in harmony together.
Speaker 2:you know, and this, um, this makes me think, but I want to be sure, have you made, cause you've made like, really great points so far, but I want to be sure that I'm not cutting you short of well, I mean, I think what's interesting to me about the whole idea of like the nervous breakdown is that there is a stigma, in my opinion, around that of like um, now we would call it like a mental illness or I'm having a hard mental health day.
Speaker 2:I actually told somebody that recently and they were like thanks for being honest with me.
Speaker 2:And I was like, yeah, I'm, I'm not in a good place to show up, you know, and and so, uh, uh, I guess, just like we have done in the past with other words and phrases, I like want to bring back the nervous breakdown uh phrase. But I loved how it described it in the science museum as a um, a nervous exhaustion or a nervous collapse, and I think that's worth talking about, because often we give ourselves a hard time when we pause in our life and we need rest. Like you were talking about going on vacation, which I want to talk more about, but like you know, especially in the American culture, it's like don't take too much time off, because people will think that you aren't really committed to what you're doing and it's all about what other people will think it's not really about us, and for me it's been a lot lately, of like just restoring that parasympathetic nervous system, of like giving it what it needs, which is usually you know something, gentle, you know Right, and space yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it's like the, the, the difference between the go, go, go nervous system do, do, do all the time, and then the rest and digest. You know, it's like how often do our bodies get to rest and digest? And the only time that your body gets to do that is when the nervous system is not activated in the fight or flight, you know, or in one of the other trauma responses or whatever. And so it's like it does feel more and more counterintuitive to rest and digest because it feels like everybody else is doing that thing over there. And what's expected of me is that thing over there.
Speaker 1:And I think one of my opinions about your question about like has it become more of a mental like stigma thing is, I think, back in the days of King George the third, they were still so, from an elementary standpoint, trying to figure out what was going on, that they were smart enough to go to their bodies and they were smart enough to go like. I got a thing and this is a physical medical thing where I'm trembling and I'm shaking and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah and it's like now, you know, hundreds of years later, we've gotten so smart that now everything is a product of the mind, you know.
Speaker 3:And it's like OK.
Speaker 1:I don't think that it's that it's one or the other. Like I was saying earlier, I think they're really integrated one or the other. Like I was saying earlier, I think they're really integrated and I think to to have them stigmatized as being only a mental thing or only a physical thing kind of alienates the other, you know, and to me, like that makes me want to have a nervous breakdown.
Speaker 2:Exactly, I completely agree, I think. I think that connection makes a ton of sense in my mind and and I think it is there is a reason. For each part of our body there's a reason it functions the way it functions. It serves us and we have to keep blessing it for serving us, which is not easy.
Speaker 1:It leads me into something that I felt really led to talk about today and I was thinking how am I going to integrate this into our discussion? And, as usual, it just fits like a glove with what you've brought to the table, moose, and I wanted to talk about the five levels of healing. Okay, can we talk about the five levels of healing according to um? I think it's classical Chinese medicine. Yes, great Um. Number five on the way to healing, something that helps with healing is acupressure. Okay, so it's. It's connecting with the body's energy flows and the different points along those energy flows. That allows stagnation to move. Yeah, so that's. That's number five. Number four is Qigong, or movement Love it.
Speaker 1:And so that's some of the exercises that we've done together before, and we did our Facebook live thing where we did all those movements. So that's that on the way to healing. Number five is acupressure. Number four is movement. Number three yes, muse, that on the way to healing. Number five is acupressure. Number four is movement Number three yes.
Speaker 2:Well, I was just going to say on the acupressure, if you don't have access to massage or whatever. I have found that I find my own healing and touching my parts that are painful.
Speaker 4:Let's. Can we rewind that and maybe just give it a?
Speaker 2:or we could keep it.
Speaker 1:I think we just keep it. I mean, I just really have found in my own healing that if I just touch my parts, all of the parts that are painful, everybody's gotta do what they gotta do.
Speaker 2:okay, I guess what I'm saying is sometimes my knee hurts and I've talked about this before but I find myself not wanting to touch it because I I don't know why it's sort of counterintuitive. But if I take the time to like actually rub out the pain, it's like, oh, it's a reminder I could heal myself in some ways.
Speaker 1:So, okay, that's beautiful, sorry for that advertisement. Number three. Number three is nutrition food and water and drink and all of that. So it's like you know if your body's sensitive to gluten, if you don't like carrots, you know whatever it is. So it's like you know. Basically, it's like allow the energy to move in your body by manipulating it, by holding intentions around it, and then movement. And then nutrition Yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum yum. And then number two is herbs and medicine. Okay, you, know and.
Speaker 2:I think like in our modern day culture that's like saying fall in love, like yeah, you want to, but how the hell do you get there?
Speaker 1:sometimes, well, you do a whole bunch of acupressure, movement, nutrition, herbs, and and then you start finding that you're with your people and your people start being your people, and then you feel safe, and then your kingdom is safe and then, all of a sudden, your spirit is healing.
Speaker 2:Okay, I just got this book. I was gonna say you talk to your parts um, it's the ifs flip chart. You guys, oh, I love your nerdiness, psycho, educational tool for unlocking the incredible healing potential of the multiple mind.
Speaker 4:By colleen west lmft did you read the title?
Speaker 2:oh, it's called the ifs internal family systems flip chart is the name of it, and this thing is so neat. I am so nerdy.
Speaker 1:You guys like I love your nerdy I love it so much nerdy is sarah has, has moose taken you through the ifs flip chart?
Speaker 2:no, I've never seen this it's my little secret right now and so, like it takes you through each thing, like we all have parts. Anyway, I'm just so excited about digging into it and wanted to show it to you.
Speaker 1:Oh man, that is great. I can't wait to look at and read through and experience with you guys the IFS flip chart. That just sounds like so much nerdy fun. Maybe you could get your therapist moose to take us on a wild adventure through the flip chart.
Speaker 4:Maybe, so, or another forest.
Speaker 2:Do you got another? Oh, we did go to the forest with my therapist.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that was nice and other people. It wasn't weird.
Speaker 1:It's always weird. It was super weird it was super weird and like super great, like it's like super.
Speaker 2:I have just yeah.
Speaker 1:I have just found the weirder the better. Like me too, yeah, if it's weird sign me up, I will try anything, once For sure.
Speaker 2:Okay. So, speaking of weird and woo woo, have you heard of this guy named? I think it's pronounced Bashir or Bashar? It's a character that this guy I should know all this channels. Just go with me. He channels this extraterrestrial hybrid Ooh, like a medium type thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's a medium and so he channels this extraterrestrial hybrid who is from the future and gives people all this advice and, like I've run across it through Gaia and all these different little channels and it's like his voice changes. It's super creepy and I'll put a link to it, uh, somewhere. But, um, one of the things that it bushier I don't know what this thing is, but suggest said is when he was talking about, like, what is the reason on beyond this planet? What's our purpose? That was really fascinating to me was, um, basically, spend the time on the things you're excited about and you know, conversely, stop spending time on the stuff that is just wrecking you and draining you and all the things. And I know there's an in-between there with some responsibilities. I get that. However, his whole point and I don't care if he's an alien or not, it was good advice, people, okay, but his whole point and it just got me thinking is you know, we are here to progress and learn and all the things we talk about, but we're also here to enjoy it and we, our souls, have specific longings and our souls have specific interests, and people go their whole lives without chasing those things, like you were talking about with the blue angels, like we, we make it such a big thing in our minds that we just don't even take the first step sometimes. And he was just really emphasizing like focus on what you're excited about.
Speaker 2:And so I did this whole exercise. I basically coached myself and just I wrote all these questions that if I were to walk you through that cat, like okay, what are you excited about? And um, and I just wrote, like, what lights me up? And and I listed all these different questions and I listed, um, like all the people who have inspired me in my life, and including people like Ani DeFranco and Oprah and all I have this huge list and now I'm going to go through and say why each of those people inspire me, because a 95% of them are women, by the way.
Speaker 2:I know nobody's shocked by that, but but if we truly do believe that we're in this journey together and that we're all connected, then each one of us brings something to inspire another person. And so what I'm curious about, as I break down all these women and and some men who have inspired me, like, what is it about them that inspire me? And then how do I take that thing and explore them outside of myself, like say it's creativity. Okay, so let's say Tori Amos lights me up listening to her music because of the creativity that she. How do I take that thing from her that she gave me? That was a gift that she gave me? How do I take that and do the same for someone else, but doing what I love to do?
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, that sounds like a really really smart coach that you're seeing.
Speaker 2:Oh, thank you, Don't worry, she's discounted for cat and mouse podcast listeners. You're not supposed to discount yourself, so nevermind.
Speaker 1:Yeah, definitely don't. I mean you read me the riot act last week. Told me I didn't value myself enough well, it was true yeah, you need to be charging at least 6k I have a feeling I would not have many clients if I did that and I'm willing to explore it.
Speaker 2:What if you charged 12k a session and they could bring their dog and you get 6K and you guys just go back and forth from New York to LA on the bark air.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'll just have a. I'll just have a massage table, like in the middle of the doggy playground, and it's like, okay, your dog can run around and I'll hold some points and, yeah, the dog will get a massage later.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, exactly exactly, I love it we got some comments, um, you guys, about our last episode called death and teeth or teeth and death, I'm not sure which it was exactly teeth and death teeth and death. Thank you for that, Sarah.
Speaker 4:You're welcome.
Speaker 2:And I want to read one of them because it was a great resource. This is from our friend Jen, who has a company called Mixedist Media.
Speaker 4:Love her, we do, love her, we do, we love you, jen.
Speaker 2:All right, this is from our friend and listener, jen hey. So I'm listening to the new podcast episode. So happy you all are back and I have something very important to share regarding the end of life planning. You all were talking about A client of mine. She has an incredible story. She's releasing a book on created a nonprofit called the 820 Foundation, and then she goes on to share. Her husband was in a horrible car accident four years after they were married and they had a little boy who was just months old. They had absolutely no legal documents or end of life planning done. She has made it her mission to empower people with the knowledge and guidance to help them get started with the paperwork.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she has. That's great To get started.
Speaker 2:Every state is different regarding their legal paperwork requirements, but the 820 Foundation provides starting points to help people get started. They aren't lawyers or legal experts, but they want to remove the guesswork, because getting started is the hardest part. Anyway, here's the link to their website, and so everyone, let's get our shit together, including us, on this podcast. Yeah, the website is 820foundationorg.
Speaker 1:Let's do some paperwork hookers. Yeah, let's do some paperwork. I think this is terrible.
Speaker 2:It does but it's better than leaving people with things to do. Yeah, agreed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly Thanks for that, Jen. Yeah, thank you for that, jen. And thank you, mixtus Media, marcus and Jen. Yeah, thank you for that, jen. And thank you, mixedist Media, Marcus and Jen. You guys are amazing. I'm excited about this resource and I think one of the things after listening to last week's episode and you know us talking about you know like, hey, let's all get our shit together so that we don't leave it for other people to have to go through or experience or whatever I think that the more I've thought about that and reflected on that is that I'm not as bothered by going through things as I am going through the process of what to do, because I don't know what your intentions are.
Speaker 2:No, I understand that. I totally understand that. I was the one that threw in don't leave me a bunch of shit, cause I had to deal with that with my dad. It was just like things. And you're like why do you have 6 million screws in your toolbox? You know yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, which I do too and and somebody will be left with that, you know. So it's like I, I, I just I thought about it more and more and I thought, like I think that my attachment is not to having to deal with the things, and it's more having to deal with the things in the way that would be honoring to your intentions and your wishes. So I felt like it was important to say that yeah, Agreed.
Speaker 2:I also want to say that dealing with people's things sucks, and so get your shit together in that area as well. Absolutely I don't think. I don't think the eight 20 foundation does that, sorry. I want to make sure we honor you, but, uh, I'll be the one that coaches you through not being a hoarder and they'll be the one that handles the paperwork for the legal forms.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's awesome. You guys should establish a partnership. One of our listeners told me a couple of weeks ago. She said I just love it when, occasionally, kat, you go into your natural and authentic Southern self. Like when I talk about Ms Martha next door, that's not necessarily it, but it's like when I'm like you know, really, really go down into my, my body and who I am, and I'm like y'all. This is not okay, like you know, it's like that, that, that the authentic, authentic cat. And so I was.
Speaker 1:I was spending some time with some friends recently and I started talking Southern and they were saying you know, if you come out to our house in Palm Springs that if you talk that way, like people will look at you very weird because like that, that accent is like not a thing out there and I'm like, well, but if that's my authentic self, then that's who I'm going to be. And one of my friends, kind of in the middle of the conversation we were talking about, you know, southern, and then Christianity and then American evangelical stuff and different sayings of the church, and my friend, who is not from the South, put on her Southern accent and she said Satan is never too tired to rock the cradle of a sleeping saint. Have you guys heard this phrase before? Never Me either.
Speaker 2:That is so something that a Baptist lady might say in the South Uh-huh, it's like hellfire and brimstone.
Speaker 1:Preacher going. Satan is never too tired to rock the cradle of a sleeping saint. A sleeping saint, and you know a sleeping saint automatically makes me think of that scripture of where everybody fell asleep on Jesus, like the night before he was crucified. You know he was like can anybody stay awake? And everybody was like no, we're sleeping. And it's like to me that phrase is just like yeah, the devil will be happy to pray on sleeping believers. So put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Speaker 2:Smoke that y'all You're going down to the home of Paula Deen? Aren't you On vacation? Yes, I am Do you want to tell us about that at all.
Speaker 1:Well, I don't, because I have not experienced it yet, but I did buy my tickets.
Speaker 2:I'll tell you what you can expect is sweaty balls.
Speaker 1:Oh, sweaty. Well, I don't have balls, so I'm going to Okay, it's hot down there. Yeah, yeah, it is gonna be hot down there. I might have hot bosoms. Um, oh, wow, the.
Speaker 1:I went ahead and bought tickets for the trolley ride. So the trolley ride like you get on this like open air trolley that makes it like really easy to take pictures and stuff, because there aren't windows and things like that, and the trolley ride takes you all around town to show you all the sites and restaurants and historical things and stuff like that. And so the very like the day that we arrive we're just going to put our feet up and order room service Like, no question, um, the next day we're going to hop on the trolley and for the first couple hours of our day we're going to go all around Savannah and then decide what to do and then decide like, oh, we want to go to that museum or to that restaurant or to that historical site or whatever it is. And so I'm really excited that I don't have this like spreadsheet formulated every minute of the day plan for what we're doing. I'm excited that we get to like go there and just like go.
Speaker 1:Oh, this sounds neat. I'm excited that we get to like go there and just like go huh, this sounds neat. And also to be outside of the routine of being available for work, phone calls, emails, my dog, my household. Like it's just going to be really nice to just take a little bit of a shift of routine and I'm hoping that that that that allows me to come home inspired and refreshed. For the people that do experience me on a daily basis during, you know, work and all of that kind of stuff, it's like I want them to experience like a renewed cat yeah, are you flying or driving?
Speaker 1:driving oh interesting.
Speaker 2:You gotta hit charleston at some point. I guess they're like sister cities and both like stunningly beautiful.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you never know, you just never know.
Speaker 2:You don't know where it's going to take you, Kat.
Speaker 1:Nope.
Speaker 4:No, you don't Well.
Speaker 2:I have a song.
Speaker 4:Oh great.
Speaker 2:Kat, when we got on here, you were a little bit sleepy. Kat, when we got on here, you were a little bit sleepy and I said are you angry? Which is what we always say to each other when one of us might be angry. And you said, no, I'm not angry. And it reminded me of Ani DeFranco's song called Angry. Anymore, Do you guys know this song?
Speaker 1:I think I may have heard it once before from you, but I certainly couldn't it?
Speaker 2:I'm sure you have. I'm sure I've shared it here. It is guys. Yeah, I know this song.
Speaker 1:Dance it out, baby yeah, you taught me this song Moose. Yeah, you taught me this song, Moose. That's a long intro, sure is, it is Not made for radio Such a long intro.
Speaker 2:Sure is, it is Not made for radio Such a good song.
Speaker 5:Growing up, it was just me and my mom against the world. All my sympathies were with her when, I was a little girl. Now I've seen both my parents play out the hands that they were dealt. As each year goes by, I know more about how my father must have felt. I just want you to understand.
Speaker 3:That I know what all the fighting is for, and I just want you to understand that I'm not angry anymore. No, I'm not angry anymore. No, I'm not angry anymore. Yeah, what a good throwback, so good.
Speaker 2:We need to sing this every time someone pisses us off.
Speaker 3:She got me out of a cold war with quiet charm, but I just want to walk through my life unharmed, to accept and just get by, like my father learned to do, without all the acceptance and getting by that got my father through. I just want you to understand that I know what all the fighting is for, and I just want you to understand that I know what all the fighting is for and I just want you to understand that I'm not angry anymore. No, I'm not angry anymore. Yeah, it's so good. Yeah, yeah, woo.
Speaker 5:Night falls, like people and love.
Speaker 3:We generate our own light to compensate for the lack of light from above.
Speaker 5:Every time we fight, cold wind blows our way.
Speaker 3:But we can learn, like the trees, how to bend, how to sway and say I think I understand what all this fighting was for Baby. I just want you to understand that I'm not angry anymore. No, I'm not angry anymore. No, I'm not angry anymore. Who doesn't need to hear that?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean come on, yeah, that's so good.
Speaker 4:We never do the whole song.
Speaker 1:I know.
Speaker 4:That was good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we'll probably get sued for that one, but I think it's worth it hey that's the best thing you can offer yourself in healing is I'm not angry anymore.
Speaker 2:Think about where you want to put that this week. Y'all, I'm a preacher and I like to give you homework. That's right. That's right, try it on. Smoke it if you got it. Bye guys, bye.
Speaker 5:Bye.
Speaker 1:Special thanks to our producer, Sarah Reed.
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