Ever wondered how smashing a broken machine could be therapeutic or why writing love letters to yourself can change your life? Join us this week as Producer Sara returns from Birmingham, and Moose shares her unique journey toward achieving mental clarity through ketosis. We uncover the science and benefits behind this metabolic state and discuss how modern medical advancements shape our health choices today. Plus, Kat’s ambitious bathroom remodeling project brings a refreshing insight into the joys and challenges of decluttering.
Get ready to laugh and maybe even tear up as we explore the cathartic release of anger through physical expression. Hear the tale of a hospital worker finding unexpected joy in destroying a malfunctioning badge machine and the touching story of Moose's late mother finding solace in smashing an old car. These stories emphasize the importance of healthy outlets for anger and reflect on broader cultural issues regarding emotional management.
If shocking news stories are your thing, we’ve got you covered. We discuss the unsettling case of a missing mother found inside a python in Indonesia and recent shark attacks in Destin, Florida.
Lastly, we dive into the transformative practice of self-love through Elizabeth Gilbert’s "Letters from Love" and the healing power of writing from a place of unconditional love. By embracing hidden emotions and self-discovery, we encourage you to comfort your inner child and celebrate the journey toward emotional healing. Tune in for a mix of heartfelt stories, personal reflections, and a touch of humor.
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Ever wondered how smashing a broken machine could be therapeutic or why writing love letters to yourself can change your life? Join us this week as Producer Sara returns from Birmingham, and Moose shares her unique journey toward achieving mental clarity through ketosis. We uncover the science and benefits behind this metabolic state and discuss how modern medical advancements shape our health choices today. Plus, Kat’s ambitious bathroom remodeling project brings a refreshing insight into the joys and challenges of decluttering.
Get ready to laugh and maybe even tear up as we explore the cathartic release of anger through physical expression. Hear the tale of a hospital worker finding unexpected joy in destroying a malfunctioning badge machine and the touching story of Moose's late mother finding solace in smashing an old car. These stories emphasize the importance of healthy outlets for anger and reflect on broader cultural issues regarding emotional management.
If shocking news stories are your thing, we’ve got you covered. We discuss the unsettling case of a missing mother found inside a python in Indonesia and recent shark attacks in Destin, Florida.
Lastly, we dive into the transformative practice of self-love through Elizabeth Gilbert’s "Letters from Love" and the healing power of writing from a place of unconditional love. By embracing hidden emotions and self-discovery, we encourage you to comfort your inner child and celebrate the journey toward emotional healing. Tune in for a mix of heartfelt stories, personal reflections, and a touch of humor.
Visit us on the Interwebs! Follow us on Instagram and Facebook! Support the show!
Welcome to the Cat and Moose podcast. I'm Cat.
Speaker 2:And I'm Moose. This is a true life podcast where we explore the quirks of being human.
Speaker 1:What's going on, you guys? Hey Moose.
Speaker 2:Hey Cat, hi Sarah.
Speaker 1:Hello, hi, sarah, welcome home from Birmingham. Thank you very much.
Speaker 2:What is going on? Let's see, let's do a recap of our lives.
Speaker 3:You guys, I am still in midlife crisis and learning to enjoy it and take it for what it is, and she's also on her way to ketosis.
Speaker 2:That's a true statement. That's true. I've followed the yellow brick road to ketosis. I'm following it. I'm not quite in ketosis yet, but I'm trying to do a little bit of a diet change in order to help my mental health, which is a process, um, so what?
Speaker 1:I know a little bit about ketosis because in my early, early early years of having diabetes like when I was like five, six, seven years old um, we were taught to fear ketosis. Like, if your blood sugar gets so high that you're spilling ketones, then that's, that's dangerous for a person with diabetes. However, talk to us a little bit about what keto. What happens in the body of a person that doesn't have a dead pancreas? What happens?
Speaker 2:Well, from how I understand it, great question.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it is. I'm still learning and I do not want to bore any of our listeners who are like, look, I enjoy my carbs, so go away. So do I. I'll talk about my journey. I've been talking to my doctor who is your doctor and your doctor and who is amazing doctor? Who is your doctor and your doctor and who is amazing? And if anyone in Nashville wants the most amazing crew of people go to Mindstream Integrative Health, they are incredible.
Speaker 2:So what I understand about ketosis is that there are now studies showing that when you can get your body into ketosis and stay there for long periods of time, that those who are dealing with major issues like cancer, um, it helps them get through chemo better.
Speaker 2:For people who are just focused on weight and mental health Mine is me I mean I definitely need to lose some weight.
Speaker 2:Let's be here and be honest. But for me, I'm trying to find ways to to help my mental health, and the way I described it to my um, to my doctor, is I have great intentions, um, for movement and my body does not have the get up and go to do it, and she was like, okay, and she just got really excited and I trust her so much that I follow her excitement. And so now I've got like this diabetic pack like you have. It's it's just for ketosis and blood sugar, but I'm learning how my body, if you can become fat flexible is what I understand it's called which means once you're in ketosis you start burning fat. But also there's so many positive things for your brain, like so much clearer thinking, and so I think the hardest thing it's not a hard thing to follow, because it's basically fat, protein and very few carbs but the hardest thing is getting the fat in and making sure they're like healthy fats, and so I'm learning a lot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it sounds like a lot to learn. And what are you doing with the, the blood diabetic sugar kit? That's like mine.
Speaker 2:I've got two different kinds of strips. One measures my blood sugar and one measures my ketones, and so, um, like, once you're in ketosis, it shows up at 0.5 or higher that you have, um, the ketones in your system in order to like, basically create a lifestyle. And so there's like a certain level of ketosis that is like just good nutritionally to be in where you're not, as you're not in taking as many carbs. And then there's a whole therapeutic level that's really hard to get to. You're really cutting back at a major level, but that is for people who are going into chemo and wanting to have less side effects and less symptoms and that sort of thing. Wow.
Speaker 1:That is so fascinating, like what we know about the body compared to even like 30, 40 years ago. You know it's like I've. I've given this example before. When I was diagnosed with diabetes, I was taking insulin that was extracted from cows, that's crazy.
Speaker 1:You know and like and now it's like it's, you know, manufactured in a laboratory and blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's like. Now it's like it it does something for your mental health to be spilling ketones. That is so neat. What a neat, neat thing that you guys have have been digging into.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I've learned from a diabetic standpoint that type one diabetics like yourself have to be careful, obviously, to not go into ketoacidosis, but it actually can be really good for you as well. But it just has to be monitored a little bit better to make sure you're not dying.
Speaker 1:Well, I need to offer a newsflash that I am dying, we're all dying, we're all moving toward an expiration date of this experience in this body, in this lifetime. And in light of that, I have really taken your words to heart, moose, from the past couple of weeks when you have said people, get rid of your shit. Get rid of your shit. As you know, I am remodeling my bathroom because it is extremely unsafe for anyone older than six years old to take a shower in the bathroom, because the tub is just so clunky and it's just weird. It's unsafe.
Speaker 1:And so I'm remodeling the bathroom and in order for the contractor to start the demolition, I had to order a dumpster, and so I had this dumpster rolled up to the house. It came on a big truck and they put it in my driveway. So I have this big ass dumpster in my driveway since this past Monday and they did all the demolition of my bathroom, took everything out. I mean, it looks like a completely different space and it used up about a 10th of the dumpster and I was like, oh yes, and let me tell you guys, that dumpster is about three quarters full and I have just been getting rid of my shit.
Speaker 3:That is so smart.
Speaker 2:What kind of shit?
Speaker 1:I mean I've gotten rid of, you know, like wine decanters I haven't even used in like 10 years. I've gotten rid of old electronic equipment. I've gotten rid of all kinds of crap from outside in my shed and I've gotten rid of. I've gone through every shelf and every cabinet in my office and I've gotten rid of old pens and pencils and I've gotten rid of all kinds of things. And I found this box of photographs that clearly are very important to me because I've kept them and I went through them the other day. I had about a three hour trip down memory lane and I also found in that stack of photos. I found a bunch of letters that my dad had written me, and so so I yeah, so I read all these letters from my dad and it was really interesting how his language and my language are very similar.
Speaker 1:He had very invitational language in his writing, which I didn't realize because I didn't even know what that was back when he was writing me those letters. And and so I got kind of freaked out because I'm like I have all these pictures and they hold all these memories and I don't want to throw them away, but what am I going to do with them? I don't need them. And so I got really smart, went to Amazon, used my Amex points and I bought a photo scanner. Oh fun. So now I have this photo scanner at my desk that I can take the picture like the one I sent you the other day of you and me before we jumped out of an airplane together and you just pop it in the scanner and it throws it into a little app and then I've got the picture forever.
Speaker 2:Well, that's fantastic. I would never have the patience to do that ever. I bought this thing called legacy box two and a half years ago and the idea of that is you put all of your photos in there, all of your videos, any electronic stuff that you want digitized, and you fill it up. And it's one price if you could just fill up this box. So I only filled up, like you said, with the dumpster, like only like one fourth of it, and I was like Sarah, do you have any photos you'd like to put in here, or videos or whatever? And she was like great idea. And I was like okay, I'm going to mail this off. The box is still in the attic and it has never been mailed.
Speaker 2:How come? Because we gave up.
Speaker 3:This is the story of my life. I get three quarters of the way through.
Speaker 2:Me too, for what it's worth. Okay, so what you've, does that feel good in your body?
Speaker 1:oh, it feels good on an absolute microscopic cellular level. Yes, it feels good on a very like level, like it has felt so wonderful. I had two record plaques, um that I knew I would never hang up again for various reasons. They're just ones that I would not hang up in my office anymore. And, um, I went out there and I took one of them and I slammed it up against the inside of the dumpster and I was like this is going to shatter, it's going to go everywhere.
Speaker 1:In the damn thing, didn't break it just flopped it just went.
Speaker 2:Plexiglass in there, yeah, it just went gunga, gunga, gunga.
Speaker 1:It made me so mad. I'm like man, I wanted that cathartic experience, but um, but then I threw some stuff away today from my shed and it shattered and exploded. It was so good. Yes, it felt really good to answer your question that is amazing. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Sarah, didn't you go and beat the shit out of some stuff recently?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was trying to remember if I told you guys about that when I um took my friend Elizabeth to a rage room. Yeah, yes, it was the stupidest thing ever. Like I have had this dream in my mind for at least a decade, where I want a large warehouse that has like library shelves set up and there's all of the shelves that used to live at Blockbuster and there's old windows and old doors and like fucking huge hammers and like you just got to push everything every shelf over, Come on, and you're going to like this is a rage room, and so I knew it wasn't going to be quite to that level. But I went in and I found a place. It was probably I don't know it was easy, easy to find.
Speaker 3:It's over there by Opry Mills. And we show up and my friend had just gone through a pretty rough. She was, she was just in a grieving state, but also very angry and, like I, was like we need to go break something, you know, but also very angry and like I, was like we need to go break something, you know. So we I, I booked the tickets we go.
Speaker 3:Sarah, and it's this old ass shopping center that's like falling apart. There's like weeds growing out of the concrete in the parking lot and we pull up and I'm like, hi, we could get not not murdered here. But like it's this Ms Trans, we could get not not murdered here. But like it's this Miss Transient land a little, there weren't whatever. Anyway, we go in. This girl is probably 16 and a half and she explains all of our, all of our rules very thoroughly. We had to show our IDs and she explains why. And all these other kids try to come in and say they're 18 and they're not. We go in, we spend about eight minutes putting on all of our protective gear. So we each put on like we zip on those big, like shop, like full body shop, like uniforms, kind of like what you guys jumped out of the plane in, and then we had to pick, put goggles on and like, pick our head gear and like gloves, like it's this whole thing. And then she walks us into a bedroom, a bedroom.
Speaker 3:And in the bedroom the walls are covered with plywood, and then there's one wall that's covered with like metal, like a sheet of metal, and then she brings in one Lowe's bucket with like four recycled glass bottles and two like vases, and she was like you could have done that on your back porch. She was like you guys have a half hour go at it, you know just when you're ready.
Speaker 2:There's like four glasses.
Speaker 3:It took us like two and a half minutes to, yeah, just blast the shit out of that glass, yeah, and uh, we felt very awkward because the lights were all on. It wasn't like vibey at all, it was just weird. And then there was there was like a couple tires in there and like a sledgehammer and like just some, like pieces of metal and like part of like a motherboard from a old computer. It was just like I spent eighty five dollars on that and we were done and we were done in 18 minutes.
Speaker 1:It was out the door. Ok, sarah, I've got this thing for about another 24 hours. Like I will pay you eighty five dollars to come over here and break some shit, and you don't have to put any protective anything on we should put some shit in her dumpster.
Speaker 1:We actually should, yeah yeah, how long until in the morning oh we'll be over in about an hour. Yeah, good, good, bring it on. I would love it. I would absolutely love it. My sister works at a hospital and she's a part of the the operations department at her hospital and she has to make these the security badges for people to wear, like when they, you know, click the badge before they can give you your medicine or before you go in a door or whatever.
Speaker 1:So she has to make these, these badges, and she like, like her badge printing machine is like her nemesis. I mean I've heard her talk about oh, it's just horrible. And she sent me a video. This is a few months ago now. She sent me a video. They got rid of that machine and got a new one, and the new one's a piece of shit as well. So it's like it's not like, oh yeah, I got a new machine. It's like I got a new piece of shit that I have to learn how doesn't work. But they let her take a baseball bat and go out there and beat the shit out of that old machine and the video of her doing it. I mean you can just feel the energy, just like just I'm. I hate this machine and it uh gosh, sometimes it just feels good to let it out.
Speaker 2:I agree. I have another great story about beating the shit out of something. This is fun. So not long, I would say maybe six months before my mom passed away. She was having a lot of issues, like with her gait when she would walk or whatever, so she was a little bit like wobbly and I kind of always had to have my hand on her belt is how I felt. And so I go home to visit and she says hey, will you go down to your sister's church with me today? And I said why? And she said, well, they're having this little carnival and I want to go to it. So that sounds fun, let's do it. And I was like fun, we're going to, it's going to be great. I pulled up to this church and they have an old vehicle with people lined up wearing headgear, beating the crap out of it with a bat yes, and my mom said that's what I want to do. She had that in mind the entire time. I love it and.
Speaker 2:I'm thinking are you kidding me? So I have video of me that somebody took. I was like, can you please take an? And I am squatted down holding her waistband, holding her up like a puppet, while she's swinging the bat above my head, beating the crap out of this car. You guys this is like six months before my mom passed away and that was so important to her to beat the shit out of that car. And. I appreciate that Like but, I, I nearly died, like three times on the swing.
Speaker 3:She almost knocked you out.
Speaker 2:She did I was literally like squatting and just holding her up, cause she's like falling over while she's swinging. These people are, like this woman's, amazing.
Speaker 1:That's awesome. That is so, so great. I'm glad that she was able to get that out. Like we really don't like. Our culture, in my humble opinion, does not know how to appropriately deal with anger, and you know when, when my nephews get, get mad, my first inclination is to go stop it, stop getting mad, and so what I've started doing with them is when they started getting angry. If it's a place where I can do this, I'll go. Come on, tell me how mad you are, and they they respond to that so well and it's like I just think that we have all been trained to like button it up and keep it in and be appropriate. You know, and it's like, so we need things like rage rooms and carnivals where you can hold your mom by her belt, like I think that that's fantastic.
Speaker 2:Well, I would like to point out that she was a liar. There was no carnival, the entire. She got me there because she knows I love a fair, but the whole thing was only just the car line up and beat the crap out of the car. Wow, she's not. A truth teller is really what I'm getting at.
Speaker 1:I was imagining like a ferris wheel and like the little, like swinging swings and stuff like that. But no it was just the car that's awesome.
Speaker 2:You guys were at her funeral. So that was the church. So just imagine, like you know, her beating the crap out of a car there. I love it. I don't know why I didn't show that at her funeral. That would have been fun.
Speaker 1:You might have had a little bit on your mind.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's true. I would like to share some news that that hit the news waves this week.
Speaker 1:There's been quite a bit, my goodness.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is not the stuff that really matters, but, um, please read this title.
Speaker 1:Kat. Missing mother found dead inside 16 foot long Python in Indonesia. Oh my gosh. A woman has been found dead inside the belly of a snake after it swallowed her whole in central indonesia. A local official said saturday, making at least the fifth person to be devoured by a python in the country since 2017.
Speaker 2:Okay, let's read the comments.
Speaker 1:Note to self never go to Indonesia. Oh that's awesome. How horrific for her and her family. This is just the most tragic story.
Speaker 3:I'm not clicking that link.
Speaker 2:Please get this off my timeline. Also, how tall was she. But why do we kill the animal doing normal things? The lady was gone already. Wait a minute, was she dead?
Speaker 1:Well, I would imagine if the python squeezed her to death and then ate her.
Speaker 2:Hold on, I got to click link the link in bio. Okay, where where do I find oh, here it is. Okay, let's dig deeper. Guys, she was devoured by. Oh, here it is. Guys, she was devoured by. Oh, here it is. Oh, it swallowed her whole. Oh my gosh, is this a video? I don't think I can watch that I can't watch that.
Speaker 2:A woman has been found dead inside the belly of us. This isn't funny, guys, but what in the hell? The husband of a 45-year-old Farida and residents of Kalimpang Village in South Sulawesi province discovered her on Friday inside the reticulated python, which measured about 16 feet. Wow, the mother of four had gone missing thursday night and failed to return home, forcing a search effort. Her husband found her belongings, which made him suspicious. The villagers then searched the area. They soon spotted a python with a large belly.
Speaker 2:They agreed to cut open the python's stomach as soon as they did, for rita's head was immediately visible. She was found fully clothed inside the snake. How do you not? Can't you fight back? Or maybe not, they're pretty strong.
Speaker 3:that's a 16 foot python All muscle. This is insane.
Speaker 2:They're known to eat monkeys, pigs and other mammals.
Speaker 3:Here's what I would like to know how did they just casually approach a 16 foot python and just cut his belly open? Was it sleeping, right? Who?
Speaker 2:knows. Was it full. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:Oh man, people keep these snakes as pets. I know, right, right, and I was thinking that you were going to talk about how many people have been attacked by sharks in destin in the past like few days. Have you guys heard about this stuff in destin same? Yes like right on 30a, it's like there are like there are like friends that live there.
Speaker 1:Yes, I know and and apparently three different people um, two young people and one person like kind of our age um were attacked by sharks in like lost limbs, like not a limb, like limbs oh my god, yes, and it's like yeah, I mean it's like why are the waters of destin, florida shark infested in this way?
Speaker 2:so if you don't know this area we're talking about, it is um like the fancy place to go. It's called 30A.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's why the sharks are there. They're there to eat rich people.
Speaker 2:I know If you're going to eat them then you might as well be tasty. Back-to-back shark attacks injured two teens adult near Florida Beach. One victim loses arm. Man Lost her left arm in the attack. Have you ever seen those videos where they like show people playing in the beach and it's from above and then there's just like sharks right there?
Speaker 1:oh yes this is why I don't go in the ocean well, and to me I'm like, why go in the ocean if this can happen, like get a swimming pool? Go to a swimming pool, yeah, come to.
Speaker 2:Kat's swimming pool yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, hey, kat, can we come to your swimming pool, Uh-huh.
Speaker 1:Open invitation Great.
Speaker 2:I am shocked by that, kat. I did not know that happened.
Speaker 1:Yes, Well now, what other news do you have for us?
Speaker 2:Well, I wanted to share something that my therapist is having me do, and it's not easy, but it is profound. So, the great Elizabeth Gilbert, who we know and love, um and by know, we don't know her at all, but we know of her.
Speaker 1:We've read a couple of her books. Yes, we know her name. She probably knows of us. She probably listens every week.
Speaker 2:I mean, we would be friends if we knew each other, so it feels like we know her, which is also really weird when people think they know you. So, okay, back to the exercise. So, those of you who know, those of you who don't know, she does this thing on Substack called Letters from Love, and I've heard of it and I subscribe to it and I've been reading them and she writes I'm going to share how she describes what Letters from Love is, but my therapist had me do this recently and it's incredible, and so I she has different guest writers do a letter from love each week, and so I wanted to share what this is first, and then I wanted to share one that she wrote Cool, okay, here we go, guys.
Speaker 4:What we're trying to do actually in this practice is we're trying to get you on the other side of your voice, right? So don't like. It's not a deposition. Don't ask a million questions. You're simply asking unconditional love. If unconditional love had a voice, what would it want you to know today? And that is it. And if you have trouble accessing it, try to imagine times where you have spoken kindly and tenderly to somebody who is in distress or in need, to a friend, to a loved one, to a child, to.
Speaker 4:If you've ever comforted a pet who was frightened and shaken by thunder or loud noises or strange toys in the middle of the hallway that it didn't know what to do with. If you've ever settled a horse, if you've ever rocked a baby, then you know how to do this. If you've ever been there for a friend, then you know how to do this. It's in you, it's already in you. That's all you're accessing.
Speaker 4:Is that part of you that knows how to do this? It's in you, it's already in you, that's all you're accessing. Is that part of you that knows how to say to somebody I'm right here and everything's going to be all right, and you've got me and I'm not going anywhere and then just let your pen, without too much thinking we're trying to kind of get on the other side of your mind and into your heart let your pen start to tell you what unconditional love would specifically say to you. And what I find so beautiful about this practice is that other people can say these kind things to me, but it doesn't really have the same impact on my nervous system as when I say it to me, because I'm the only one who knows the depth of my shame. I'm the only one who knows the depth of my pain. I'm the only one who knows what I'm struggling with right now. And this is why this kind of practice is just so laser. It's like a laser going straight into the pain because it knows where it is.
Speaker 2:So that's kind of a bit of what she shares, kind of what a letter of love is, and so, um, she writes one weekly and if you're a subscriber on her sub stack which is only five bucks a month, if anyone wants to do it, um, it's amazing. And so she just recently had Martha Beck write her guest um one for for her column, and, um, and it's beautiful, but I actually want to read what Elizabeth Gilbert wrote this week. Uh, Kat, do you want to read it or would you rather receive it?
Speaker 1:Oh, I would be happy. I would be happy to read it and receive it. I would be happy to read it and receive it.
Speaker 2:Wow, I didn't. You guys are such dirty minds. Okay, it's not very long here. It's just the part that's in italic, but I would love for you to read it.
Speaker 1:Okay, my tiny acorn, my love, my child, sit with me a moment and put down your worries, your desperate strategies, your doubts and fears. You will never know lasting peace as long as you need everyone in the world to be happy with you at the same time. It cannot be accomplished, tiny angel, no matter how much you try, and oh how you try, but you simply cannot do it, my love. You simply cannot keep everybody pleased. You couldn't do it in childhood and you cannot do it now, as a grown woman. Trying to keep everybody pleased with you makes you tired and worn down and discouraged, as would any job that is innately impossible. Would we send you to the earth to do impossible jobs? Silly little, weary bumblebee? Let that hard work go. Allow me to be the one who unceasingly loves and approves of you, so that you don't need to seek it from others. This will be a relief to both you and them.
Speaker 1:If you let me love you, if you really sink down into this love, you can allow everyone else to come and go without drama, without clinging, without fear, and people will always come and go from your life, little one. That is the natural way of things. Nobody is meant to stay forever. Nobody is meant to stay in one place, or even in one mindset, forever. Let other people have their journeys, let other people have their feelings. Let other people have their own experiences. There is no higher respect you could offer to another human being than to allow them to hold their own opinions, even about you. Allow it, surrender and allow it and carry on with your own journey.
Speaker 1:All is well, dearest one. All is going to plan. Relax your shoulders now. Relax your heart. Listen to me speaking to you from the very center of yourself, from the very center of love itself. You know who you belong to, and that is all that matters. You belong to me, little one. You are made of love and you are made of me. That is settled law. Know this truth and you will know peace. Now shut this book and sit with me for a few moments in the stillness. Have a gentle day, stay with me. I love you so. Oh, that's so good. It's like. It's like reading. Well, let me stop making it my own story. What is it like for you guys to hear that?
Speaker 2:Oh, such a good reminder because I um want to live from a place that is from the inside outside, not from the outside in. You know, paying attention to what everyone else is worried about me or thinks about me. I want to come with confidence and let those who aren't meant to be fall away and be okay with it.
Speaker 1:Mm. Hmm. Yeah, that's awesome. Those are really really fantastic intentions. How does it hit you, sarah?
Speaker 3:I kind of, I guess, walk away feeling like it's just, I don't know, maybe easier to just be yourself. That's what I'm experiencing right now, instead of having to try to be what you think others want of you or expect of you or whatever, and it's not. You don't have to like try to be yourself. You know what I mean. It's just there, it's our, you are you. That's probably the easiest thing, but the hardest thing is to like be willing to share that, I guess, with the world yeah, yeah, yeah, and, and willingly like kind of just throw it out there and go it, whether it's accepted or not, like this is me Is this who I am.
Speaker 3:I don't know. I thought that was cool Um.
Speaker 4:I agree.
Speaker 3:I like the concept of it being about, or from, unconditional love as we see it through our own filter, like what is, whatever that means to us, you know, because it's unique to us. And then, and then it comes from a space of like what do I want, what do I need at my core? Yeah, how, how to, how do I be what I need? Mm, hmm, mm, hmm.
Speaker 1:I'm reminded.
Speaker 1:It reminds me of oddly, it reminds me of my early experiences with Christian music and it reminds me of and I'm sure this has like a more fancy word than what I'd know it to be called but songs that are written from the perspective of God, which I think is kind of bold.
Speaker 1:For anyone to write a song and say like I think that I am speaking the heart of God, you know, I mean, that's huge. That in and of itself takes some boldness and some confidence. And in songs that are written from the perspective of God toward me or toward the listener, I'm always just amazed at being reminded of how loved, how unconditionally loved, I am. And it's so weird to me that it's like I can hear a song and go oh, god loves me. That is so great and it. But how hard it is for me to love me in that same way, for me to sing that song over myself, for me to read this entry and consider I am that little bumblebee, I am that little baby or whatever it is, you know, and it's. It's fascinating to me how, how easy it is to pour it out to other people than it is for me to receive it. I find that really fascinating.
Speaker 2:I think that's our entire work is loving ourselves, because the triggers we have on the outside come from the inside and if we can see that, that the divine Christ, whatever you say is inside of us, I think that's easier to love ourselves. If we can see that like, oh God is inside of me, not outside of me.
Speaker 4:Right.
Speaker 2:So this thing I feel inside of me, that feels very real. Some would call it a personality, some would call it your soul, whatever like that. It's actually the best way I can honor God is by putting what he created out into the world. Yeah, and yet so freaking hard to do.
Speaker 1:So, so hard to do. I was in class a few weeks ago and was reminded that one of the first steps toward healing is making the covert overt. What does that mean? Again, it's like taking what's hidden, taking what's secret and putting it out into the light.
Speaker 2:Oh Lord Jesus, can you speak that again Like a pastor, because that is huge, yeah, I mean, can we just pause, say it again and let's all take that in.
Speaker 1:One of the first steps toward healing is making the covert overt. What is inside, what is secret, what is in the dark and is not exposed to the light is hidden, and that's the kind of stuff we repress, it's the kind of stuff we push down, it's the kind of stuff that develops armoring in our bodies and it's it's the kind of thing that like sets, like muscular, like memories and stuff like that in into place, and so it's like if we can allow those things to have just a little bit of exposure and not be hidden, then that is the beginning, is part of the beginning of healing. And I feel like that love that is also. Sometimes it feels very covert, like I know it's in there, there's a love for cat inside of this body, but like it is in some chasm, somewhere just hiding out from everything you know, and it's like this kind of practice brings that forth and I think I think that's really beautiful.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it makes me. Did you want to share something, sarah? I saw you unmute earlier.
Speaker 3:Um, I was just going to say. The other thing I loved was that, uh, the when she listed the examples of ways to comfort animals, humans, you know things and it's and she said if you've done that, you know how to do it.
Speaker 1:Yes, and it's like.
Speaker 3:Oh my God, we all know how to comfort someone or something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love that because you're right, especially with an animal, yeah, I mean like there's nothing like whether it's like an end of life, like moment where you are so grateful, or like fear, like an animal in fear. Of course, you are just like, whatever it takes, you want to take care of it. How?
Speaker 3:do you do that for?
Speaker 2:yourself.
Speaker 3:Yes, yeah, child children's too, like we, we were those kids, you know, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, I would like to invite anyone listening, and especially you two, to take just a moment and find that little kid inside of you and imagine what it would be like to comfort that little kid and just take that with you this week. Yeah, I love that that little kid, and just take that with you this week.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 2:My little kid. She likes to cuddle up next to me with her blue blanket and that's like her thing. But she's like a cat. She wants it to be on her terms.
Speaker 3:You know like I've got to let her come to me which is fine.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, you know like I've got to let her come to me, which is fine.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, yeah, I think for me, like mine, mine kind of nustles up against my, my left, like inner shoulder, not quite my breasts, like just right right here, like in in this area, and just enjoys just being loosely held, like not like you know but just like just really reassured.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um, in some other news we have a Sarah McLachlan show coming up, her 30th anniversary, and I just right around the corner. It is right around the corner and I just needed you to know that she is asking something from her fans and, um, I really want to encourage you to do it oh, okay she has asked her fans that she wants them to sing the song ice cream and you may get put in the video that is um that they're going to show at her shows for ice cream.
Speaker 1:So that is so smart.
Speaker 2:I think that you should do. You should be eating an ice cream cone like a little kid and seeing your love is better than ice cream.
Speaker 3:Your love is better than ice cream, and you use the ice cream cone as your microphone yeah, so like a, like a nutty buddy, yeah, for sure for sure, hold on, I'm gonna pull up that song, guys.
Speaker 2:I hate that song I hate that song.
Speaker 1:I hate, it.
Speaker 3:I kind of don't think we should play it I I know it's like the dumbest song ever.
Speaker 1:Whoever is coaching her and her team on how to engage with fans around this tour is really, really smart, and I want to say to you, sarah, that your willingness to do the things that they've been asking you to do, I think says a lot about your character and your maturity as an artist, because some of the things like asking your fans to sing ice cream and you might get put in a video, like some artists would have a really hard time asking their fans to do that, and I just really appreciate it.
Speaker 2:So, since our podcast is a podcast meant to encourage Sarah McLachlan, I just wanted to say that it took me like a good three paragraphs to realize you were talking about Sarah McLaughlin and not Sarah Reed. Yeah, me too. Oh, good, good, I was like Sarah's an artist. I was beaming from ear to ear. Yeah, Kat loves me so much she thinks I'm an art.
Speaker 4:I looked down and Sarah was with me.
Speaker 2:She was like oh my God, this is so sweet.
Speaker 3:I love that, sarah, your love is better than I thought it would.
Speaker 2:I mean, my grandma could have written that song and maybe she did.
Speaker 3:She was the only writer. Yeah, she's the only one that wrote that. Listen, I think we need to do a pool party. Ice cream music video.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:We need a cat and moose ice cream video yes.
Speaker 1:When is the deadline?
Speaker 2:I didn't. I didn't catch the details. I didn't think we were a detail podcast.
Speaker 4:We're like a top line podcast.
Speaker 3:Like we give you the headline and you got to go figure out the rest for yourself. Skim the top, yep.
Speaker 2:Just the overt here yeah, not the covert. The overt here yeah, not the covert. No covert, Just straight up overt One of mine's. Have a great week everyone. Oh, we're not done.
Speaker 1:No, I'm done, I'm done. No, no, no, please don't leave, Go ahead. No, I'm done, I'm really done.
Speaker 2:Okay, bye. I had an ant in my ear, oh God.
Speaker 3:Oh.
Speaker 4:I thought it, it wasn't.
Speaker 1:Well, guys, we love you, I love you, I love you.
Speaker 2:Special thanks to our producer, Sarah Reed. To find out more, go to catandnewspodcastcom. Cat and Moose is a BP production.