Brain Worms and a Stupid Wh*re

Have you ever wondered why worship leaders use iPads for lyrics? Join us as we kick off with a humorous critique on this modern-day quirk before diving into an unexpectedly raw therapy session that left our therapist speechless. We spice things up with a playful vocal exercise and then take an intriguing detour into the realm of brain parasites, featuring the peculiar case of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s brain worm.

Get ready for some light-hearted fun in our "Pod Loft Shenanigans" segment. We share chuckles over quirky names for personal devices and unexpected visual mishaps, all while basking in the holiday spirit—even in the middle of summer! We’re super excited about our new podcast space and invite you to help us name it. Plus, hear about our whimsical plans for Patreon content and the hilarious giveaway of 72 mosquito headnets.

Our exploration continues with a heartwarming segment on healing through humor and connection, featuring personal anecdotes and an inspiring discussion about an improv class at Third Coast Comedy Club. We also navigate the complexities of trust in therapeutic conversations, reflect on the shifting nature of conspiracy theories, and delve into the polyvagal theory to understand our body's reactions to stress and safety. We wrap up with a heartfelt note of appreciation and an invitation to connect with our incredible community. Don’t miss this eclectic mix of laughter, personal growth, and fascinating insights!

Chapters

• 0:04 Exploring Quirks of Being Human
• 9:16 Pod Loft Shenanigans
• 14:09 Healing Through Humor and Connection
• 18:50 Navigating Trust and Therapeutic Conversations
• 24:54 Exploring Polyvagal Theory and Triggers
• 31:28 Embracing Healing Energy in Podcast

Transcript

Speaker 1 0:04

Welcome to the Kat and Moose podcast. I'm Kat and.

Speaker 2 0:06

I'm Moose. This is a true life podcast where we explore the quirks of being human. What about my worship leader iPad with my cords on here?

Speaker 1 0:24

Is that what that is?

Speaker 2 0:25

well, it's a tripod. I'm gonna lead everyone in a new song.

Speaker 1 0:31

You know they have their little ipads up there like do you need the music or the lyrics to your own song?

Speaker 2 0:41

no, I think that, think that, yes, they do If they just wrote it. You know, it's like you writing a poem and not remembering it the next day. If you're going to recite it on the Cat and Moose podcast, you would bring it, don't you think I do so? Do you need an iPad?

Speaker 1 1:01

tripod. Yeah, I feel like in some accountability sort of way in my life I do uh-huh, um, and I also want to be like super judgy and be like a hater and go like then why are you recording something that millions of people can watch and hear if you're not ready? But then I do that every week. Yeah, so who am I? I don't know, I am a judge, wow seriously with my therapist this week.

Speaker 2 1:31

I let the. I usually let about 70% of the real me. I mean she knows me, but I let the 100% out in this episode. Episode, do you?

Speaker 1 1:45

guys have a podcast because, because here would be a good time to promote it right here. I would pay money to listen to you and your therapist do a podcast.

Speaker 2 1:56

I lost audio in my ears. Hello there, I am Okay. So it was an episode more like a mental health episode, even though I didn't mean to say that.

Speaker 1 2:08

I mean you are talking to a therapist.

Speaker 2 2:11

No, it really wasn't an episode. You're right, it was a session.

Speaker 1 2:15

Interesting.

Speaker 2 2:17

Okay. So I'm in this therapy appointment and, um, and I don't hold back. And I was telling her how I felt about myself and I was like yeah, like I want to do this, but I don't do it. And I was like you know, and instead of a part saying you, stupid whore, and my therapist went like this she goes. She like gasped, and then I said uh, and then I said uh, and then I said oh, I'm sorry, and she goes okay and if she could have done the catholic cross in front of me.

Speaker 2 2:55

She would have, because I took her nervous system straight to fight or flight because I was just talking like this and then I was like then you have that part that's always like critical and she's like you, stupid whore, and she's like I like totally triggered her. Oh, that's, I felt so bad. I was like I should have warned her that that voice was coming.

Speaker 1 3:18

Yeah, the fact that you even know what that voice is and are concerned that you might make your therapist away that it's coming, aware that it's coming Like that's brilliant, that's a lot of growth.

Speaker 2 3:33

Well, I just realized it as I'm talking to you. Yeah, I haven't processed it, so let's start this thing, okay, yeah, hey cat, so let's start this thing.

Speaker 3 3:46

Okay. Yeah, hey, kat Welcome, everyone Welcome.

Speaker 1 3:55

Hey, kat.

Speaker 2 3:56

Hey, I know that you just said hello to me, I know, but then you looked at-.

Speaker 1 4:01

And I looked at Sarah.

Speaker 2 4:03

It was like an energetic like boomerang, like maybe I am her ventriloquist.

Speaker 1 4:09

Oh, that sounds fun, or I could throw my voice. Yeah, oh, what if we could pass our voices around?

Speaker 2 4:15

let's try it, okay, one two, three four, four oh that is, us passing it around eight I thought I was just talking to Sarah. I just thought.

Speaker 1 4:27

I would offer Sarah a fun exercise at the beginning of the podcast. Oh great. How'd it go, hi, hi. And I just want to say, like, this is the beginning of the next, it is the beginning of the next thing, yep, yeah, so welcome, welcome.

Speaker 2 4:41

If you're not a patreon.

Speaker 1 4:42

Patreon if you're not a patriot okay, wow, fine, and this is where we insert a political campaign ad right you know I feel bad for rfk, by the way, because I have you heard him talk yes, I have it is hard to really pay attention and he's trying to get on the stage with the debate and he's got a worm in his head, I mean. Whoa, I don't know about that.

Speaker 2 5:11

Oh, he had a worm in his brain. They had to pull out of his ear.

Speaker 1 5:16

What kind of worm are we talking about here? Wait, the ear doesn't go into the brain.

Speaker 2 5:20

Okay, it was in his brain, I'm guessing. They pulled it out of the ear, but they probably had to have surgery. Sarah, can you check this? Can you fact check us?

Speaker 1 5:30

A worm? Yeah, in his brain. Yeah, how did it get there? Is it like a parasite?

Speaker 2 5:38

Yeah, okay, that's different than a worm. Well, how did it get in his brain, cat?

Speaker 1 5:46

If the ear doesn't connect, it would have to go through the scalp, it would have to breach the craniosacral pouch. Can it do that? I feel like you're telling me it can. Well, thank goodness we have a producer. How does a worm get into that?

Speaker 2 6:06

I don't know, I'm just. I am sorry, I'm very fixated. I'm a news source, yes, but I I have not named my source. So have you found it? Oh, oh oh. Brain worms like the one in rfk's head are actually a global problem. Experts explain how certain worms can affect the brain and why they are important global public health problem.

Speaker 1 6:31

Earlier this week, news broke that independent presidential candidate Robert F Kennedy Jr claimed to have once had a dead worm in his brain. Kennedy had been experiencing memory loss and mental fog, and he originally suspected these symptoms might be caused by a brain tumor. Brain scans in 2010 showed a cyst that his doctor said contained remains of a parasite man Wow.

Speaker 2 7:02

So no you first, please, you first.

Speaker 1 7:06

No, I want to hear what you think happened um, we have a felon right we have a blood relative of the Kennedy family, correct With the remains of a worm in his brain. Yeah, it's a worm pouch.

Speaker 2 7:33

A worm, okay, a worm pouch, Warm Say that Not a warm pouch, warm pouch, which everyone likes, a worm pouch.

Speaker 1 7:41

I can barely say worm, pouch, worm, because I just want to go warm pouch warm feels very feminine. Um, okay, and then we have a man who, bless his heart, I think, has moments of just euphoria in the middle of like highly televised, like media things, where, like he, seems like he's on gummy. It's literally like dude, I love you. And what is going on?

Speaker 2 8:18

Here's what he does.

Speaker 1 8:24

He's just like he sees something we don't see totally, totally like he and whatever it is is fucking awesome yeah like.

Speaker 2 8:35

It's like I'm like dude, I want to see that with you man. It's like he's seeing a dimension.

Speaker 1 8:39

We can't see totally, totally, and and I just want to point out that these are the three people running for the office of president of the united states of america, yeah, okay that's just that. Just wanted to I just wanted to like be sure that we all yeah, we're on the same page, we're on the same page I appreciate there was nothing, no mention of age or gender. No no, intentionally um skin color yeah, exactly, but I'm with you.

Speaker 2 9:07

Those are our choices.

Pod Loft Shenanigans

Speaker 1 9:10

I mean guys like. That's all I want to say about it. I do too. I think we should move on. I have my little like thing of things I'm going to talk about. Do you have like in your mind, do you know, what you want to talk about today? Well, I have my iPad. Oh right, because you're a worship leader.

Speaker 3 9:26

Yes, hello, sorry, it looks like you've got a list of things on a person next to you.

Speaker 1 9:34

This is true. Thank you for the prompt, sarah. Oh, you're welcome. This is well. My friend has one too, and she calls hers Giovanni Shindo Giovanni.

Speaker 3 9:44

Shindo, giovanni Shindo. That's Giovanni Shindo. This is good, I like that.

Speaker 1 9:50

So I don't know if that's his name too. And what do you?

Speaker 2 9:53

like to do with him Wow.

Speaker 3 9:57

I almost couldn't get that out, okay.

Speaker 1 10:06

Do go on.

Speaker 2 10:07

I like to study the movement of energy, oh, I appreciate the loincloth, although I still see still two bulges underneath the loincloth.

Speaker 3 10:22

I I don't, I don't know how to. We have two bulges on front of us. On front of us Every day yeah.

Speaker 2 10:32

Yeah, I'm just saying if she wants to cover the genitals, they're not covered. And now I've been flashed.

Speaker 1 10:38

Yeah, this is why you're just a fucking good friend. Thank you, you're a really good friend. Do you see the balls man? I'm in the Christmas spirit and it's almost July. That's fantastic.

Speaker 3 11:12

Yeah, christmas in July, yeah All right, guys.

Speaker 2 11:15

So we're in the new pod loft. We can't use that phrase, though, because the ladies on uh, my favorite murder. That's what theirs is called. Oh okay.

Speaker 3 11:25

So we should take do they own it? Though they own that. I don't want to fuck with those people.

Speaker 2 11:30

Nope.

Speaker 3 11:30

Nope.

Speaker 2 11:31

So I think that what we need to do is ask our listeners what is this new space called?

Speaker 3 11:37

What is the room?

Speaker 2 11:37

Okay, it's sort of lofty. It's on the second floor. Yeah, it's an open space.

Speaker 1 11:43

And it's got a high ceiling, which I really enjoy.

Speaker 3 11:45

Yeah, it's very high. Look, you can't even see my hand.

Speaker 2 11:48

Nope, that's how high it is, guys. And if you want to be a patreon patron from patreon, from the, from the land of patreon, if you want to be a citizen, we would love to have you, because this shit's gonna be good, it's gonna be good.

Speaker 1 12:02

I mean it's already good, we're gonna give you bonus shit.

Speaker 2 12:05

We're gonna we're gonna take our clothes off in front of the camera I'm not doing that.

Speaker 1 12:10

I was gonna say I would like for you to hear your friend's voice About our follow through and just Hi, I'm Buzzkill.

Speaker 2 12:21

No, you're not Buzzkill.

Speaker 1 12:22

I ruin every.

Speaker 2 12:24

You are a ruiner, you stupid whore.

Speaker 3 12:33

You whore oh.

Speaker 2 12:36

Speaking of what I threw at you. I need you to pick that up because, oh my god.

Speaker 1 12:41

I'm like lightheaded from laughing so hard oh, my word, it's down there yeah, that's what she said, sarah this this is for you oh, it's a gift. Oh, is this? Was this planned?

Speaker 3 12:57

yeah, this situation this situation for my wine? Oh, it's a gift. Oh, was this planned? Yeah, this situation for my wine is not working Okay.

Speaker 2 13:03

Just for the future. I'm not upset right now. Oh, it seems like you are. I'll get you a tripod for a cup holder Mosquito headnet. Well, it's a little delayed. This was for the cicadas, remember.

Speaker 3 13:17

I bought 72 of them.

Speaker 2 13:19

So if we have any listeners out there who are big fans of gardening and you need a mosquito net for your head, I will mail this to you free, because I have 72 of them.

Speaker 3 13:34

Are you going to pay for shipping? They smell good.

Speaker 1 13:37

Ooh, they smell like some fucking essential oil or something.

Speaker 2 13:48

So if anyone needs one of these, just hit us up. You know how. 1-866-katmoo5.

Healing Through Humor and Connection

Speaker 1 13:51

A free mosquito net from the cat and moose podcast Just for you, and a thing that I would like to say is that hello at cat and moose podcast just for you, and a thing that I would like to say is that hello at cat and moose podcastcom is currently working and I'm like responding to people well, this is great, because I'm I don't see it anymore and I'm fine with that. Oh, okay I really, really love our fans.

Speaker 1 14:12

No, I do too no I'm not saying you don't sorry, that came, I don't love you stupid okay, that's what I'm gonna can you make that a noise that you just play?

Speaker 3 14:28

I could just do it live, do it live why?

Speaker 1 14:31

not because, like I'm telling you that, I believe with all of my heart, mind and soul that there is at least one person out there who is going like. I have never felt this scene.

Speaker 2 14:47

Agreed. Well, look, we all hear this voice. Mine is just apparently stupid whore is not something that you should say that way to your therapist, but I really wanted her to gather what happens inside of my body and let's be clear.

Speaker 3 15:04

You weren't calling your therapist a stupid whore.

Speaker 2 15:06

No, no, no, no no. If you're just hitting play in the middle of this podcast.

Speaker 1 15:13

My therapist is a stupid whore.

Speaker 2 15:14

Wow, I can't figure out why my therapist broke up with me I just picked a hair out of my mouth and I like that. It came from the mosquito net, yeah so mosquito nets, uh cats checking the email, anything, uh anything come in great from the mail walks that you want to share with us, um yes, I just want to say that I think the great thing to share right now is that, well, shit, fire this thing has got to go. Okay, we're good, do you?

Speaker 1 15:50

Stupid whore.

Speaker 2 16:07

There's so much healing, so much healing, like if this is what's going on over there. I had to sit up I was slouching.

Speaker 1 16:09

Yeah, it's hard, isn't it? It is it's hard to just sit up. It is like each time that I've, it's really hard to sit up. Each time I have had to readjust my body to sit up, like I felt like I've used all the energy from like half of one of my kidneys and I only have like one more quarter left. Really, no, god, no, my mom only had like a quarter kidney. Oh God, that's real bad. You know, you are really really near the end. I know had like a quarter kidney. Oh God, that's real bad. You know, you are really really near the end.

Speaker 2 16:39

I know.

Speaker 1 16:40

Yeah, it's sad.

Speaker 2 16:41

She didn't even have.

Speaker 1 16:43

So, sarah, at any point in the podcast we're going to need you at some point to say stupid whore, because it really it's like healing, like right now, whatever, okay, okay, cat, can you tell us about this new improv class that you're in, because I, oh my gosh, I need to hear yeah, it's so fun, okay, so I am taking an improv class at third coast Comedy Club, which is over in Marathon Village Okay, over in that side of town and I'm taking it with one of my friends who is one of my Jin Shindo buddies, and I am just really honored to get to do this with him. It's really fun. And so, anyway, they're teaching us things that, like, in one way, I already know, because I'm like well, duh, I do that in my job, I do that in my body work stuff, I do that in life. You know it's like, but there's something about understanding that on stage with another person that you're just riffing with, like how useful those things are, and it feels very Wu Wei, it feels very like, for example, this this throws back to something you said a little while ago, um, or something that I thought when you said something is everything I need.

Speaker 1 18:11

Everything I need to keep this going is in you. Yeah, I trust you. Yeah, everything I need to keep this going is in you. Yeah, I trust you. Yeah, everything I need is in you. And so, no matter what comes next, I know you got me Right.

Speaker 2 18:28

And that's a lot of responsibility For who?

Speaker 1 18:32

Me. Well, do you want me to be that present, or Huh? I'm curious what Sarah thinks about this.

Navigating Trust and Therapeutic Conversations

Speaker 3 18:44

Like about the between the two of you or between the concept you were just saying the concept of it. Yeah, it's like, uh, meeting each other halfway or being willing to walk towards each other and like offer each other the same grace the same yeah yeah, it's not like I'm going to suck you dry you dirty whore

Speaker 2 19:15

oh my god, I'm going to suck you dry. That is the that's the voice I hear when people are like can you call me? Yeah, and they don't say why. Right, I hate it.

Speaker 3 19:27

I know it's the worst.

Speaker 2 19:29

They'll even say no agenda and I'm like, oh yeah. I know what you want.

Speaker 1 19:34

Yeah, you want to suck me dry you stupid whore.

Speaker 2 19:39

it really yeah, and I just wanted you to know that that's not the spirit, this material is being presented okay this is great because it will tie into my parasympathetic nervous system later okay okay, so I apologize. We're back on track. You, you are saying that people need to. You, you're trusting your partners and improv yeah, yeah it's, it's basically like.

Speaker 1 20:10

It's basically saying that voice that says you stupid whore that voice isn't welcome here. Oh, it's just not welcome here. We know it's there, we know, you know it's the same in all this therapy shit, like it's all the same thing, yeah, and at the same time it's not the same thing, because it's like I'm taking a class and I have learned something for the first time that this voice, you stupid whore, that's not welcome here, like in the podcast, right, yeah, that's how we started this whole. I almost said session.

Speaker 2 20:51

Episode Episode Mental health episode. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 20:54

If we start calling it sessions, we're going to be in legal trouble. You're worried.

Speaker 2 20:58

Why Really worried about getting in trouble today?

Speaker 1 21:00

I know, isn't that strange? I have a lot of trouble, worried about getting in trouble too. Okay, what are you worried about getting in trouble for?

Speaker 2 21:08

Everything, everything I like hate cops Because I'm afraid of them. Like anytime I see a cop, I'm sober of them. Like anytime I see a cop, I'm I'm sober. Sober can be. I'm driving in daylight, I've paid my registration, but I see a cop and I'll literally duck out into a. I'll just be like yo bro and I'll like turn. I am very suspicious.

Speaker 1 21:32

So like if you just see one, you like.

Speaker 2 21:34

Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 21:35

I'm afraid of them. Hmm, so like, if you just see one, you like oh yeah, I'm afraid of them. Have you had a bad experience with a police officer? Well, yeah, is that something that you're comfortable telling millions of people about? Not really, but it's not super traumatic.

Speaker 2 21:55

It's just like I know, but I that's it's that way with Like I didn't want to be in trouble with teachers and Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 22:00

I think that, um, I think that that's like a psychology thing.

Speaker 2 22:06

Yeah, I don't. I usually am one of those.

Speaker 1 22:14

Add it to the list. No, I don't mean it. I don't mean it in that way.

Speaker 2 22:19

Oh, that means that you're bipolar.

Speaker 1 22:23

Thank you.

Speaker 3 22:23

Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 1 22:25

I've now paid you tens of thousands of dollars. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 22:30

Right. Hmm, I never understood why psychologists only give you like no, not psychologists, psychiatrists I've only been to one once, okay, and it was 15. Well, the first intake was like 40 minutes, but then everyone after was like 15 minutes, and you're like, you want me to tell you, and I think it's just to get refills, which I don't want to do that.

Speaker 1 22:57

Like. Would it be like a therapeutic situation? No, it's.

Speaker 2 23:01

How are you?

Speaker 1 23:01

feeling. Oh, how are you feeling? Okay More like chemically.

Speaker 2 23:05

Is this medication working for you?

Speaker 1 23:09

And if it is, have a nice day.

Speaker 2 23:10

Yeah, not there. Don't do any feelings like parts work, like I'm sure there's some great psychiatrists out there. I know a couple friends who are great ones.

Speaker 1 23:18

I don't know if I've ever been to a psychiatrist.

Speaker 2 23:20

I hadn't either. But then I thought I was ad ADHD or whatever ADD something and wanted some thoughts on it. Yeah, so I tried it. Yeah, that's it. That's the story.

Speaker 1 23:36

Please don't knock it until you've tried it.

Speaker 2 23:38

Yeah, I tried it. Now I can knock it. Just kidding, not all, just this one that I saw.

Speaker 1 23:44

Yeah, good.

Speaker 2 23:48

I'm glad that's ever with. He actually said to me on the call I was sipping a waterloo and we spent a good five of the 15 minutes talking about my favorite flavors of sparkling water oh, okay, got it.

Speaker 1 24:02

So that might have been code, was it? It may have been like, if you think about like artificial intelligence and all of that, it's like, yeah, okay if she's drinking the strawberry still like keep her on the oh yeah nc-13, because that's the, that's the thing you know like I wish conspiracy theories were fun again.

Speaker 2 24:23

Is this not fun? I know I enjoy them, but you know, everyone like ruined them during covid. Yeah, like people were like, oh, I'm gonna actually believe them, believe them and that's why they got ruined yeah, because they start. It was then like misinformation. It wasn't just like what if we didn't really go on the moon?

Exploring Polyvagal Theory and Triggers

Speaker 1 24:43

you stupid whore you are a funny woman.

Speaker 2 24:54

Oh god, okay, I gotta tell you guys about this shit that I'm reading about, okay, so I've been reading this book. Oh, I've been reading a lot of things about polyvagal theory, and you've talked about this before, I think have you.

Speaker 1 25:09

I have mentioned the word before. I am not very schooled on it at all.

Speaker 2 25:13

Oh, I'm not schooled, that's why I'm talking about it. Okay, I'm talking about it because it has anything that heightens my compassion for myself. I walk towards.

Speaker 1 25:27

Yeah, man.

Speaker 2 25:28

And the Enneagram has done that for me, but also this polyphagal theory. I have been. I am always in search of why, like that is, I think, most humans are. Did you forget there was?

Speaker 1 25:42

a dog there. I did, I did and I was like all I saw was like a snake going.

Speaker 3 25:47

Not really, I didn't see that and I was like all I saw was like a snake going, not really, I didn't see that.

Speaker 2 25:53

I just was startled. You stupid whore, you stupid whore. Okay, so you can put that up on the screen, sarah, if you want. You're a juggler, I'm juggling, so, patrons, we will attach this image so that you can see what we're looking at. So this is I want to give credit on here, on here, so on themovementparadigmcom is where I'm reading this information from, and I want to give credit for this image by ruby joe walker. Um, but this image has really helped me a ton.

Speaker 2 26:27

So so I've been reading a couple different books about polyvagal theory, and if you're like I don't care about that, great. But if you have felt burnout or you know, notice anxiety in your body, or notice when you can't move and you don't know why, and all of those things, the thing that has interested me most about this is you have like the level, the base, the foundation, I will say, of of what polyvagal theory is is when you're in like a calm state, when you feel safe and all of that, and that's what they call social engagement. And then the next step up is when you start having, say, something comes into your life that makes you freak out. That's where your fight and flight happens. And then one step up from that is freeze, which is where some for me is. It's helped me realize why I have so much of a frozen nature in different parts of my life. There's times where I can just get up and go and there's times where I literally feel like I can't move across the room to even plug in my phone, even though it's dead.

Speaker 2 27:45

Yeah, yeah, and so what's interesting about these three places for me is is I feel like, if you can note it, like they say, the key to it is noticing when you're out and you're freaking out, because that will always be happened before a trigger that will be like usually a trigger will create that. So you and I are having a conversation. All of a sudden we get into it about something. Something you said triggered me. It's not your fault, but it's a trigger for me and I go into okay, I just want this to be over. So I go into like fight or flight and then I could deal with something else. That may even be like a deeper traumatic trigger Everybody always talks about trigger and that could completely freeze me where I'm just like I actually don't want to see anyone for two days because that freaked me out so much which I've learned that I can go into freeze when it comes to news things. Whenever there's a shooting, oh wow, I go into freeze where.

Speaker 2 28:45

I'm obsessed with it and I and I, I just I'm like I can't believe that humanity can do that to one another and so right like that's a big trigger for me.

Speaker 2 28:54

but one of the things that's really cool is in this book that I'm reading by dub day, and I will tell everyone the name of it. Can you look up polyvagal bookigil book? It's not that one, um, by Deb Deb day. Anyway, in there she talks about this thing called shimmers, and so you have triggers and then shimmers and shimmers are when we notice that we are in that safe space.

Speaker 2 29:24

Oh, oh, that's so sweet I know, and like you did that earlier, when we were just downstairs at the house and you were like I feel so calm here, this is great. Yeah, and I'm trying to do that more because it's so easy to focus on, like.

Speaker 2 29:38

well, clearly, that triggered me you know, and then it feels like a spiral from there, but like noticing, like, wow, this feels safe. This feels like some of the words they use around the social engagement area, which is like where you do feel safe is calmness and connection, settled, groundedness, playful, curious, open-minded, compassionate. And you're less defensive when you're in that state, yeah, um, and you're less defensive when you're in that state, yeah, and then, as you go up to fight or flight, you're looking um over here under the sympathetic nervous system. I mean like physical things happen your blood pressure changes, all these, the adrenaline comes in. And then, as you go up to freeze, um, even more. Your heart rate, depth of breath is less, et cetera, et cetera, even more. Your heart rate, depth of breath is less, etc. Etc. So I am I am challenging us in our listeners to look for those glimmers too.

Speaker 2 30:35

It's so easy to notice when you're like but in reality.

Speaker 1 30:40

It's important to notice when we're safe too yeah, a trigger and a glimmer sounds like a beautiful title yeah, it does, but what about you, stupid whore?

Speaker 3 30:53

Definitely a trigger, that's triggering. Yeah, I would say so.

Speaker 2 30:57

That didn't make you guys feel safe. Not at all.

Speaker 1 31:01

And yet somehow very safe, familiar.

Speaker 2 31:04

Familiar.

Speaker 1 31:06

Oh, welcome to your next decade of work, cat. You're gonna differentiate between familiar and safe.

Speaker 2 31:15

There's something that makes me want to walk toward it, but I'm not sure that's the healthiest thing for me, right?

Embracing Healing Energy in Podcast

Speaker 3 31:21

because you're a stupid whore because only stupid whores would do that right. Well guys, oh man, this has been healing. What a great episode it's been it really has.

Speaker 2 31:33

I've enjoyed getting to know you guys.

Speaker 1 31:38

I've enjoyed the healing essence of this episode.

Speaker 3 31:41

It has been fantastic yeah, it's been real life giving.

Speaker 2 31:45

Yeah, it really has love you, sarah, love you, love you guys, love you guys. Have a great week.

Speaker 3 31:50

Bye.

Speaker 1 31:51

See ya. Special thanks to our producer, Sarah Reed. To find out more, go to cat andmoosepodcastcom.

Speaker 2 32:16

Cat and Moose is a BP production.