Veggie Chips and the Jettisons

Ever found yourself whispering a prayer over something as trivial as a pool problem, or chuckling at the absurdity of life's little mix-ups? Our latest episode is a candid blend of laughter, reflection, and the occasional plea for divine backup. We're opening up about the quirks of daily life, from the frustration of locked accounts and inaccessible streaming services to the joy of Jodi Foster’s new season of True Detective. And yes, there's a story about her wife's work that's too amusing not to share. We weave through our struggles with a touch of humor and a lot of heart, inviting you to find a bit of solace and perhaps a chuckle in our shared human experiences.

But it’s not all light-hearted banter; the episode takes a sincere turn as we examine the emotional landscape mapped out by breakups and severed ties. We share personal stories, like the fallout from a high school rumor that changed everything, and discuss how these pivotal moments can shield us from futures that don’t match our spirit. In a seamless shift, we enter the hauntingly beautiful world of Tori Amos and the unique genre she has created, connecting with fans over a collective journey of growth and resilience. From the transformative power of bodywork to the raw authenticity of mindfulness, this conversation is an open invitation to join us in exploring the intersection of physical and mystical healing. So, come along for the ride; our community and stories await you with open arms.

Chapters

• 0:04 Prayers, Veggie Chips, and Jodi Foster
• 11:14 The Concept of Breakups and Growth
• 23:13 Exploring the Genre of Tori Amos

Transcript

Speaker 1 0:04

Welcome to the Cat and Moose Podcast. I'm Kat and I'm Moose.

Speaker 2 0:09

This is a True Life Podcast where we explore the quirks of being human. Hey Kat, hey Moose, hey Sarah, hi, hey guys, hey Kat, your name on Zoom today says we need prayers.

Speaker 1 0:27

Yes, you know, we talk about all this like manifesting and asking for what you need and taking care of yourself and like all of that kind of stuff, and I'm putting it out to the universe in every way I know how, including my name on our Zoom call. Right now we need prayers, like it's not important that Kat Davis is Kat Davis right now, like we just need prayers.

Speaker 2 0:50

Yeah, we do. We need prayers. Here's I'm gonna say specifically what we need. We need prayer for clarity. We need prayers for money. Yes, please, we need prayers for just really good energy flowing our way.

Speaker 1 1:09

Yeah.

Speaker 2 1:11

You know For things to work out. You know We've got pool problems and vehicles, no engines, things like that Poor us?

Speaker 3 1:22

Why did you remind me of that? It's not on your mind.

Speaker 2 1:26

We need prayers. We need prayers. We've covered that already. I've still got accounts. I'm locked out of. Kat has frozen pipes. Oh wow, not in her downtown, but in her pool?

Speaker 1 1:40

Yeah, not in my downtown, man, if those pipes were frozen.

Speaker 3 1:48

It's funny because.

Speaker 1 1:49

I'm watching the new season of True Detective with Jodi Foster, and part of the plot thus far is they have found all these dead bodies that were naked out in the frozen tundra of wherever they are in Alaska, and they're having to, in order to keep the integrity of the tissues for like testing and all that kind of stuff, they're having to thaw the bodies out in a hockey rink. That's 38 degrees, oh my gosh, that's so gross. So you talking about my pipes in my downtown folds, I immediately think of Jodi Foster.

Speaker 3 2:34

Oh, wow. Well, I'm sure you're not the first.

Speaker 1 2:38

Oh my gosh there's so much there.

Speaker 2 2:42

First of all, I'm jealous that you're watching that show, because I have tried to watch that show multiple times and every card that I have in my wallet, on my prime or wherever I buy I don't know Apple something I can't get into my Apple ID, none of my cards, all they're all canceled. So, literally every time I try and re-subscribe to Max it's like sorry, you're not going to watch this, you don't exist.

Speaker 1 3:12

If anyone wants to share their Max password with me, Max Passy password, but do you still have access to YouTube TV? I do.

Speaker 2 3:24

Okay well that's good. Well, does that have anything to do with Jodi?

Speaker 1 3:28

I don't know. I mean, I'm just thinking there could be a workaround, you know, like if you could subscribe to Max through YouTube. It's a good idea, that is a really good idea.

Speaker 2 3:40

I really want to see that show.

Speaker 1 3:42

It looks so good.

Speaker 2 3:44

It's fun to see Jodi Foster back. Yeah, and her wife just did a new short film that everyone's talking about, anyway, side note.

Speaker 1 3:58

I didn't know. Jodi Foster had a wife she does.

Speaker 2 4:02

Her name is Alex somebody, and she's a photographer Somebody. I'm going to put this documentary on a look. I know you know who that is.

Speaker 1 4:12

I don't know if I'm pronouncing it correctly. No, I'm not familiar. This is Jodi.

Speaker 2 4:17

Foster's wife? No, jodi, foster's wife made the short documentary about their life.

Speaker 1 4:24

Oh, okay, I was thinking this was Jodi Foster's wife and I was very confused.

Speaker 2 4:32

Okay, we always talk about how this podcast is the quirks of being human, and this is literally what we would do if the three of us were together Is have this exact conversation. And then we would look up Jodi Foster's wife, and then we would put it up on Kat's big screen at our house and we would all be like, okay, now, how does a look relate to this? And then, like that was what we would do. So now we're doing it with you. But yeah, this is her wife, alexandra Hettison, I think is her name Alex Hettison.

Speaker 1 5:06

Well, nido, so the two. There are two episodes out of True Detective featuring Jodi Foster, and I'm not going to tell you too much of what I think about it until you get to get into a Max account, even if it's my Max account.

Speaker 2 5:22

Okay, I might have to come over and watch it at your house.

Speaker 1 5:26

Yeah, just come over for like 55 minutes, it's fine, and then you can just leave, it's fine. So I feel like you know we've talked about how we need prayers and I also was going to say that you know, minimizing my own trauma does not help anybody else out there and at the same time, I recognize that the things that I'm asking for prayer for are things that are very hard and they could be a lot worse, like they could be a lot worse, and I'm so, so grateful. So, just like in last week's episode, I'm trying to just have a gratitude without like glossing over that things are challenging in life right now life and work and and all of that and so I want to talk about how I have been unjustly wronged. Oh, oh, okay, and I am angry.

Speaker 2 6:22

Okay, I would love to hear all of this. Yeah, I immediately Felt guilty, like it was me. Oh no, oh good, okay, I just that was very selfish to me, but I needed to roll myself out, so my, so my nervous system could be here for this story, okay good, so good job in self-regulating like that's really awesome.

Speaker 1 6:44

I went to see you guys's doctor this week and she acknowledged that I'm a person who knows how to self-regulate, and that made me feel like really good, oh, that's awesome. So give me more stress, test me no, please, no, please don't, yeah, please don't. I am very angry because I, for several years now, have really enjoyed veggie chips and veggie fries.

Speaker 3 7:09

I thought you were gonna say veggie tails.

Speaker 1 7:14

I am so mad at Bob the tomato right now, larry the cucumber.

Speaker 2 7:20

Okay, so veggie chips and veggie straws.

Speaker 1 7:24

You said yes, yes, you know the delicious love that you can get at all the places, or whatever. Yeah well, for the past several years, I have been completely in ingestly bamboozled by believing that these chips are actually vegetables. Oh no, oh no. What are they? They're potato chips.

Speaker 2 7:49

They just marketed potato chip. They put some dye in it and then made them a different.

Speaker 1 7:55

No, it's, it's a, it's a lie, it is a from a pit of hell. It is a marketing Falsification of untruth. It is not okay. Veggie chips are potato chips. They have just as many, even maybe a little bit more carbs than maybe your other favorite bag of potato chips. And the only thing, the only thing that they use the vegetables for, is the flavor and the color they use. For color, they use celery for.

Speaker 2 8:32

I'm so mad, I know, I get it, it's maddening. Apple chips Are they apples? I think so. They're like dehydrated, yeah, but they're probably just sugar chips. Hmm, probably. I just looked up veggie chips. That's all I typed in Google and, and this is the first thing that came up they have very small amounts of spinach or tomato paste, but there's still a deep fried food and they're not going to contribute to your daily vegetable intake in a way that supports overall health is a lie, mean, mean lie, especially because, like they're sold at all the like hoity-toity Places like foods and fresh

Speaker 1 9:20

market, yeah all of that and it's just like it is an absolute lie.

Speaker 2 9:24

It is a lie. I'm sorry, I am too. Thank you. In the bucket of conflict resolution, which is one of my classes that I'm taking this semester, I read the following sentence, and since we're a vocabulary podcast, I wanted to see if you'd heard this word before. Okay, great and personal relationships. Unresolved conflict leads to drifting away from one another and sometimes Jetsonning the relationship entirely.

Speaker 3 9:56

Jetsonning.

Speaker 1 9:59

Jettisoning what?

Speaker 2 10:02

yeah, jettisoning. Yeah, spell it Okay J E T T I S O N I N G. Jettisoning, jettisoning jettisoning.

Speaker 1 10:13

And what does it mean?

Speaker 2 10:16

It means To throw or drop something from an aircraft or ship. Wow.

Speaker 1 10:23

I had no idea that that's what that meant.

Speaker 2 10:27

Okay, so let me read the sentence again. And personal relationships? Unresolved conflict leads to drifting away from one another and sometimes Throwing or dropping something from an aircraft or ship entirely.

Speaker 1 10:40

So if I said we're gonna jettison our relationship.

Speaker 2 10:44

Yeah, it's, I mean it's it's not just a breaking up. It means I've dropped you out of an airplane.

Speaker 3 10:55

Yeah, I've dropped and been dropped.

Speaker 1 11:02

Okay.

Speaker 3 11:02

I've been jettisoning and we Jumped out of airplanes together the jettison.

Speaker 2 11:14

Everyone to name, tell a short, brief description of a relationship of someone who left you Just brief, like a few sentences, like this is what happened. It's jarring.

Speaker 3 11:33

It is John, I'll go first. Let's go to sitting about. I will jettison you.

Speaker 2 11:39

This would be the, the short version. This was in high school. The person who taught me about who Jesus was went to college, heard a rumor that I was telling everyone that she was pregnant without being married and so never spoke to me again. Oh, did you do that? No, I did not do that Two years later I finally asked her sister. I was like what in the world happened with that? And she's like she heard that you were telling people she was pregnant, which she was my best friend, so why would I do that?

Speaker 2 12:17

It's crazy. So it dropped me for life.

Speaker 1 12:20

She jettisoned you Based on a complete lie. Yes, it's complete. And so did you just take it.

Speaker 2 12:29

No, I was heartbroken. She was a year ahead of me in school, so my senior year she was at school already in Lexington at UK, which was super cool, and so I would even go down to Lexington on the weekends to hang out with the college people. But no, she just wouldn't take my calls anymore. It was horrible, it's really terrible, but you know what? I will say this about that person and one more recent who everyone knows. But I think that sometimes those doors are closed so we don't keep going down that same path. If I had gone down that path with her as my friend, I would have been like a missionary in Rwanda and I'm not kidding and not out of my own soul's calling. But because this person had so much influence over me, I would have just been like oh, you want me to go to Bible school? Ok, ok, bye, I'm going to Bible school. And then I'm serious, I would be miserable in a cave in Sri Lanka with the Bible, trying to get the locals to give Jesus a chance.

Speaker 1 13:37

Simply amazing and I love that you clarified that. That as a calling is not wrong or bad. It is not your soul's calling. Right, it is not my soul's calling and so the universe found a way to jettison you out of that relationship in order to protect you from a life and a calling that was not meant for you.

Speaker 2 14:03

Right. However, now that I'm thinking about it, I'm not sure I'm in my calling. Yes, yeah, who did you follow into this?

Speaker 3 14:13

one.

Speaker 2 14:14

Yeah, that's a good question. I might need to jettison someone else out of my life. Who am I following?

Speaker 1 14:20

Well, I'm just getting really nervous because we're all three really close friends.

Speaker 2 14:24

And if we start, you guys, if we start searing in on.

Speaker 1 14:27

hmm, I went first of all.

Speaker 2 14:32

First of all, I'm not following you guys. That's not in a bad way, but secondly, I would never do that live on a podcast. Thirdly, I like you guys and you seem to be rubbing off on me in a very good way, oh good.

Speaker 1 14:46

Good. I'm glad that we're. I'm glad that we're bringing the higher vibrations.

Speaker 2 14:51

To quote you from last week All right, you guys give me your breakup stories.

Speaker 1 14:58

I'm still curious where Sarah is going to go with this, because she's our boundary setter when it comes to these vulnerable questions. So, sarah, how are you going to respond to this? I'm following you now.

Speaker 3 15:08

I was going to talk about my divorce, but I'm going to go with something less heavy, ok, and I'm going to go with Youth Pastor, my first Youth Pastor, ok, her name was I loved her, of course it was Freaking, loved her.

Speaker 3 15:25

She was the first person that, like I, didn't grow up in church, and so when I went to church, she was like one of the first people I met there that was like a little older than me and cool and like cared about me and saw me and like I loved it and I fell in love with all of it, right, yeah, that's why I started going to church. So, hey, you were, you're right. It does just kind of lead you on down the path, doesn't it, I know?

Speaker 2 15:54

And then look next thing you know you're married and well, well, well, well.

Speaker 3 15:58

So I was like a good housewife and I loved I mean, I loved her and then she got married and moved to Chico.

Speaker 2 16:08

I think I'm going to say China, and then I'd be like was she a missionary?

Speaker 3 16:11

She just did a normal life thing, got married and moved away and then I was like, wait, wait, wait. What about me?

Speaker 1 16:17

Yeah, Did she go to the University of Kentucky at Lexington. We both had a best friend that bailed the same one.

Speaker 2 16:27

Oh f**k, my friend's name was f*****.

Speaker 1 16:34

Kat, what's your story? Well, I'm sitting here and this happened to me last week, so much so that you guys were so kind and generous to extend grace to me. I felt like the line, the line of discussion that we were in. It was really hard for me, like it was, and I even said like I didn't know today was going to be a therapy session. I was kind of being funny, but I was also kind of going like, oh, this is making me really look deep into myself and, as you guys have been telling your stories, I'm thinking of the hurts in my life from being jettisoned by people and I'm over here almost in tears.

Speaker 2 17:12

Oh no, I gotta tell you I was like go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 1 17:17

Being jettisoned really hurt.

Speaker 3 17:20

It's awful. That's why I was like this is jarring, because there's some mud. That was a light one I shared. I've had some devastating ones, holy shit.

Speaker 1 17:29

And all I can think of is the devastating ones, and so I don't know that. Here's what I will share is and this is a more recent in my adult life jettisoning experience is that a client and I completely misunderstood one another. They thought that we were breaking up for one reason and I thought that we were breaking up for another reason.

Speaker 1 17:57

Oh no. And so it left, really like and the client even said to me like this went way smoother than I anticipated, and I was like gosh me too. And so, like we left each other's you know presence and a couple of weeks later something happened and we realized that we were not at all on the same page. And I mean, I got jettisoned so bad yeah. Like it was just like, oh my God. That's not good, that's not good, that's no fun.

Speaker 2 18:41

To give you an example of the word in a sentence, six aircraft jettisoned their loads in the sea. Their loads, their loads we're just a load to these people.

Speaker 1 18:56

Well, can I kind of approach things from a bodywork standpoint real quick, please, sure, okay. So if you can take a quick and we're not going to do a whole like meditation thing because we're, we're, we're not timeframe today, because I'm about to get an airplane and jettison myself, I hope it's not Alaska Airlines.

Speaker 2 19:15

The door plug comes.

Speaker 1 19:19

No, it is not Alaska Airlines at Southwest, and I feel pretty good about that, and I'm curious if you check in with yourself and your body, is there anything that exists, whether it is physical, spiritual or emotional, that needs you to jettison it out?

Speaker 2 19:41

Yeah, there's some energy. Yeah, that needs to get the blank out.

Speaker 1 19:49

Yeah, do you have a sense of, of a way to manifest that, for that energy to?

Speaker 2 19:58

It feels like it's in my chest and it goes out like wings, so I'm going to flap it.

Speaker 1 20:03

Let's flap. Can we flap with you? Come on, sarah flap.

Speaker 2 20:07

Get out.

Speaker 3 20:08

I'm flapping too, I'm flapping too, I'm flying.

Speaker 1 20:11

Oh my gosh, I'm flying. You guys, cap, come back down.

Speaker 2 20:18

Oh, I'm going to drop back into my chair. Oh, my God, I'm exhausted. My whoop, my wrist, is going to say I actually worked out.

Speaker 3 20:25

Oh, yeah, oh yeah. We really got our strain up on that one Way to go. Guys, dang, did you get some?

Speaker 2 20:31

energy yeah.

Speaker 1 20:36

Yeah, that felt good.

Speaker 2 20:38

Do you feel like the energy has to come out of an orifice, orifice?

Speaker 1 20:43

That's a fair question. It's very fair.

Speaker 3 20:47

In order to fully leave, like fully evacuate.

Speaker 2 20:50

Yeah, like sometimes I'm like, do I need to toot this out?

Speaker 1 20:54

Do I need to vomit it out?

Speaker 3 20:56

Or can it just? Come out of my pores Right Like a giant blackhead.

Speaker 1 21:02

Like this is a very great question that only the Dow can answer. I don't know. Well, look what I have sitting here the Dow, the Dowdei Qing I do have the Dowdei Qing. Have you been reading it? I have actually. Have you gleaned any insights that might help us in our recovery from being jettisoned?

Speaker 2 21:24

No, not yet. I have not but.

Speaker 1 21:29

I'm reading it. Awesome, that's very impressive.

Speaker 2 21:32

Well, it's just a little guide. It's Steven Mitchell's new English version, the NIV of the Dowdy.

Speaker 3 21:39

Ching.

Speaker 1 21:43

When are they gonna?

Speaker 3 21:43

come out with the new living translation of the Dowdy Ching.

Speaker 2 21:46

Here's what we need to do. Here's what we need to do, guys. We need to start. Instead of working in the Christian music industry, we need to start like a Worship movement. That's more like new age. Okay, you know, that sort of embraces all these different ideas of being in the flow and getting in the River and all the things that we talk about.

Speaker 1 22:13

Yeah, I think you just uncovered how Inya was discovered. Oh, that's true.

Speaker 2 22:20

Oh really, how can one artist be the genre? It's kind of like the the river walk thing. What's that called River dance, river? Dance Like they are their own genre, totally Like you. When you hear it, you know you're like oh that's river dance, yeah.

Speaker 1 22:40

And I know like if I go to listen to Inya radio on Spotify, I'm very unsatisfied. I would think so. It's her, and then it's all these other things that are sort of is she in that realm? And it's like no, there is one, one artist that defines an entire genre. That's amazing. Maybe it's time, maybe it's time for a new one. And we're in that Fibonacci spiral thing. Yeah, it's coming around again. It's coming around again Inya we are coming to find you.

Exploring the Genre of Tori Amos

Speaker 2 23:11

We are coming to find you. You know what. How would you describe like I spent some time in the genre of Tori Amos in my college years and after what? How would you define her Music, because it's very?

Speaker 1 23:25

different. It is very different she is. She is one of those artists too, that is, it's almost, she is like her own genre. Yeah, because there's a part of it that like it in it it hurt. She embodies every bit of being who she is, from the way that she sits at her piano To the way that she speaks and the way that she moves when she plays, the way that she dresses so Kind of hippie-ish but kind of scantily clad, you know, it's just like she's got this whole thing. Yeah, that to me is kind of like a like a Madonna or a Lady Gaga or something like that. That it's like they kind of. They kind of are their own genre well, tori Amos.

Speaker 2 24:07

I mean, where are my Tori Amos fans out there? I need to know, because that's a whole like you know. I feel like there's few things that if someone says, like I'm a Tori Amos fan, I immediately am like my soul knows your soul because you have religious trauma, you have a feminist Dispective or you wouldn't listen to, you're willing to challenge the norm, like there's. Like being a Tori Amos fan means something Specifically. Do you have anything like that when you find out Someone is you know as a fan of blank, that you're like oh my god, we're totally in. Is it bodywork for you?

Speaker 1 24:51

It's. It's a little more narrow than that. I would say it's more like kind of the Therapeutic meets esoteric meets. Everything is connected to the body, like that. Someone who cares about those things yeah, specifically is immediately like yeah you just feel kinship.

Speaker 2 25:13

Yeah, yeah, what is esoteric mean?

Speaker 1 25:16

Yeah, I was gonna ask that too I think it means more like kind of Spiritual in nature, more mystical in nature more like is such a wonderful word for me, yes yeah, so I think it.

Speaker 1 25:31

I think it's kind of and I'll give you an example one of my teachers Answered a question for me this week. I said, hey, I'm looking for why is this one particular acupressure point, like, why is it so powerful in releasing lower back pain? And I said and I'm looking for an anatomical Understanding of why, but I wouldn't mind an esoteric understanding. And he, he wrote me back Do you mind if I find what he wrote me back, because it was really beautiful.

Speaker 3 25:55

Sure sure.

Speaker 1 25:57

So the the esoteric part, like he described for me anatomically, like this is why this makes sense. And the esoteric part said this acupressure point is related to the ability to receive nourishment and store sufficient reserves for the most vital Processes of life. Wow, if they are functioning well, we will feel supported and the low back and pelvis can stop straining to Support the weakness and to rest into sufficient support.

Speaker 2 26:28

Wow where is this point? Oh, she's standing up.

Speaker 1 26:34

It is right on top of. I don't see your hands. I'm gonna because I'm gonna describe it for you. Do you know where your pubic bone is?

Speaker 2 26:45

Yes, Everyone right now. Stop what you're doing and touch your pubic bone.

Speaker 1 26:50

Okay, in case you don't know, your pubic bone is right at, like, the front of your hips, if you will, it's the place before the downtown area, okay, and this is true on a male or a female, on either side of the middle of that bone, on like the top of the bone that you can reach from just reaching down and touching it, and on either side of the middle are two acupressure places, and if those places are supported, then it is often known to be really helpful with lower back pain, because if you look at like a trigger point chart, they're very connected, like that whole the fascia and the segment and all that is like super connected. And so what I loved is that my instructor was able to go yes, they're all connected and segmentally and muscularly and stuff like that, and also add a more esoteric description, you know, okay, that helps me esoterically.

Speaker 2 27:55

I have a challenge for everyone listening for this week I in all of my studies, I read this definition of mindfulness and we often talk about mindfulness. I've never heard it described this way. It is from Kabat-Zinn, 2005. Here it is Mindfulness is the deliberate practice of moment to moment, non-judgmental awareness, cultivated by paying attention in a specific way, that is, in the present moment, and non-reactively and as open-heartedly as possible.

Speaker 1 28:34

Wow, would you be willing to read that again?

Speaker 2 28:37

Yes, Mindfulness is the deliberate practice of moment to moment, non-judgmental awareness, cultivated by paying attention in a specific way, that is, in the present moment, and as non-reactively and as open-heartedly as possible.

Speaker 1 28:56

Wow, that's beautiful. I loved it too.

Speaker 2 29:02

Well, we love you listeners. Thanks for listening to the Cat and Moose podcast. Yes, thank you.

Speaker 1 29:06

We are so grateful. Yeah, we love you guys and we're so excited to be with you this week. And if you are some of our listeners that have been in different climates, in different environments, as you offer your prayers for us, if you decide to, if you send a little bit of your weather vibrations our way too, we would not be sad. No, we won't.

Speaker 2 29:27

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Speaker 1 29:48

Here's a special thanks to our producer Sarah.

Speaker 2 29:57

Reed. To find out more, go to Cat and Moose podcastcom. Cat and Moose is a BP production.