Unlocking Fulfillment: Secrets to a Purpose-Driven Life

In this episode of "Conversations with Rich Bennett," sponsored by Tar Heel Construction Group, Rich Bennett is joined by Joe Ayler, President of Tar Heel Construction Group; Everson Travers, CEO of Travers Enterprise, LLC; Tony Muns, an insurance industry professional; and Dan Bennett, a proud union journeyman. Together, they explore the theme of living a purpose-driven and fulfilling life.

The discussion delves into personal growth, financial freedom, community involvement, and overcoming life's challenges. Each guest shares their unique perspectives and experiences, offering valuable insights on happiness, fulfillment, and the importance of aligning life with one's true passions. Whether you're looking for inspiration or practical advice, this episode provides a wealth of knowledge to help you lead a more meaningful and satisfying life.

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Transcript

Rich Bennett 0:00
Thanks for joining the conversation. So one of my top sponsors, Jewel or Tar Heel Construction Group, told me, said, Rich, we need to do a podcast about living a fulfilled life. So we got a five of us around the table today talking about living fulfilled life, which some people believe. I mean, I don't live off of and well, it's different for everybody. So I'm just going to go around the table. The man, the myth, the legend is going to kick it off first. 

Joe Ayler 0:34
Rich, thank you for having me. It's always a pleasure. 

Rich Bennett 0:39
We missed you, man. It's been a while. 

Joe Ayler 0:41
Congrats on. 

Rich Bennett 0:43
All. 

Joe Ayler 0:43
Thank you on the podcast. And I wouldn't be able to imagine somebody in circles. 

Rich Bennett 0:49
Oh, thanks. 

Joe Ayler 0:50
That's more new. Thanks so. I'm Joe Eyler. I'm the president of the Tar Heel Construction Group. We are a local award winning residential and commercial roofing and serious contractor located right here in Bel Air, Hartford County, Maryland. 

Everson Travers 1:06
That's a hell of an elevator pitch. 

All 1:08
I don't know. Oh, my God. 

Everson Travers 1:12
That was good. 

All 1:13
I like. I like. 

Everson Travers 1:14
It. My name is Everson Travers. I'm CEO of Travers Enterprise, LLC. We're a buy and hold investors. We we flip property manage, and we also do some construction and anything real estate we do 24 seven 365. 

Tony Muns 1:28
Well, I'm Tony Mines. I'm a staff adjuster in the insurance industry and I'm visiting the area. 

Rich Bennett 1:36
We traveled the furthest. 

Tony Muns 1:38
Visiting some of Richard's family this weekend and thrilled to be here. And thank you for having me. 

Rich Bennett 1:46
We had to we had to move this date for you. know, our Go ahead. Then you can introduce yourself. 

Dan Bennett 1:53
And I'm Dan Bennett. That last name does ring a bell to some of you. I am a proud union journeyman. Why are men, electrician and or fireman is my official title. Whatever. Local 24. I would say that I proudly represent my union at all times. Given the nature of today's topic and how personal it is for every individual, I'll say I'm really representing myself here in this Pacific conversation. But. 

Rich Bennett 2:19
Well, yes. 

Dan Bennett 2:20
That is what I do for a living. Yes, that is what I do for a living. 

Rich Bennett 2:24
But you say you're you know, you're the son. 

Dan Bennett 2:28
And I'm proud of my dad, too. I'm very proud of my award winning podcast. Host Father Rich Bennett spoke. 

Rich Bennett 2:36
And I feel kind of left that, you know what this reminds me of those of you listening. So the four of them are sitting there. I made them old fashioned, so they're sipping on them. But it reminds me of the Who is the guy for Saturday Night Live, ladies man, Tim Meadows. Yeah, sure. But the skit, he always did. The ladies man drinking his. Yeah, yeah, that's it. It reminds me of it. And I'm just sitting here watching you all like, man, this is mess. Well, all right, Joe. What? How did you decide to come up with this topic? Because I like. 

All 3:11
Oh, I don't know. 

Joe Ayler 3:12
I mean, as I'm 44 years old and young. Look, as I started getting up in my late thirties and early forties, I started to just kind of gain a different perspective on life. You know, I've really enjoyed reading lately, and when I say lately, like in the last couple of years, I didn't read a ton in my thirties into my twenties unless I was forced to, but I just like behavioral psychology and just prospecting and happiness stuff and fulfillment and you know, I was up for it up in Bel Air yesterday for a for an event. And they had a guest speaker there that was speaking on like the psychology of money and like, wow, it was really interesting. And it wasn't about it was about investing and about money, but it was like how money affects people like me mentally. And it was really interesting and one of the things that he talked about in the book that I read was like, know when is enough? When is enough enough? MM Like, you know, can you, you know, you see some of these, you know, tech billionaires and they just keep, keep going and it's like, you know, these hedge fund managers, it's like, you know, 30 million, 50 million, 100 million, billion, billion. 

Everson Travers 4:31
Yeah, yeah. 

Joe Ayler 4:33
And he told his story in the book. It was like a guy who an author wrote a book and a hedge fund manager and author were talking and the hedge fund manager made more in a single day than the author made on a very famous book throughout the history of the publication. 

Rich Bennett 4:51
Wow. 

Joe Ayler 4:52
And then the author says, But yeah, it was enough for me. 

Everson Travers 4:57
Yeah. 

Joe Ayler 4:58
Which I thought was really interesting. And I love to read about this, but yeah, you know, Yeah, I don't know. I just the last couple of years, like, just from focusing on just, you know, 

peace, you know, I'm not thinking, like, to, like the, but just like being fulfilled and happy and what, what, what that means to me. Yeah. And all the different areas of my life, whether it's my faith or my fitness or my, you know, my relationship with my wife and my kids and my business and stuff like that, where I lay my head down and I'm like, All right, you know, I'm checking all the boxes and kind of understand what they mean to me and not giving a shit what it means to other people. Yeah, You know, and I think when we had talked that day and you asked me, you know, what I wanted to talk about or what I probably just got done reading the book on something like Right, How to Live a Fulfilling Life. Because I think, you know, with the evolution of the Internet and social media, I mean, it's it's a toxic play. It can be a very healthy place, but it can also be extremely toxic when you get into comparing yourself and just 

what you what you intake, Right. You know what I'm saying? You're controlling your input. You know what I'm saying? Well, yeah, right. 

Rich Bennett 6:19
Yeah. A lot of people think to live a fulfilling life like you have to make all the money in the world, which is not the case, you know? I mean, there's a lot of people that. Well, it's going to sound weird, but some people are living in it, obviously. I'm sure you've seen a lot of vets, especially living in tents, but they don't want to home their happy living the way they are, you know, And yet they still work. They're still doing stuff. Um, some of them don't even want to see their families, but they're happier. So which is weird. I mean, it sounds weird. 

Dan Bennett 6:56
It's not on your phone. 

Everson Travers 6:57
I don't, I don't feel it's weird. I love you know, that. I feel that the man woman item Higher power upstairs designed us all to be individuals. Right? And whatever that may be. You want to knit, you want to do blankets, you want to live in on the streets, you want to live in. You know, we are what we want. We are what we focus on. And it's funny that you said focus and fulfillment. I'm 44, too. I didn't really realize what the value of what money really meant until about three years ago. Okay, I've had it. Plenty of it blue, plenty of it, but didn't really value what money meant to me. And money to me was freedom. You know, I'm saying I raised my kids by myself as a single parent, you know, And so I was there for every single field trip I chaperoning field trips. Give me the bad as kids, you know, saying I want them in my group, you know what I'm saying? So I didn't have my father was there financially, but he wasn't there for me. So I changed that. So for film, it is what you want. Like just the latest past years, you said frequency energy. I preach that all the time because I love motivational speaking. I'm a I'm a youth mentor by nature, you know what I'm saying? So it's all about what you think and what you feel. And my feeling is no better than his or his or his or even yours. You're saying everybody's entitled to their own. And I feel that with the the growth of the Internet, with the growth of social media, it makes people second guess themselves. So now you get caught up in watching everybody else's life, and now my life is not worthy. Okay, so the past two years, I have truly made traveling a priority. Yeah, the money, you know, I was spending beforehand on going out to eat or stopping with drinks with the family or the wife or whatever. Like we could do a trip for that same price. So we've been traveling like crazy, you know that. And it's just for film. It is how you feel. You know, one thing that changed my life is when I went to Jamaica, you know, and seen like the outside of the resort, like in the hood, like the real Jamaica, you know, I'm saying it was like the people are still so happy. But in my eyes they were so poor. But when I when I took everything in, they're actually so rich, you know what I'm saying? Because it's not about the money for them. They're living the way they want to live. You have people that been married 40 years in a terrible relationship that are just unhappy every single day. You have people that go to work for 30 years that the job that they hate, they hate Mondays. They can't wait. They hit Monday and can't wait for Friday. You know, I'm saying, is that fulfillment? You know, I'm saying it depends on what you want. Every every single person is an individual. And I feel fulfillment is living doing what you want to do, how you feel fit and who you want to do it with freedom. You know, I'm saying freedom is is I feel financially free, you know, I'm saying. And that's that's the way I live my life now. I don't I'm done worried about what people think, man. I rest my head good at the end of the day, because I know I did my best and and the day. That's all I could do. You know, everybody's happy. I don't screw anybody over. I don't take shortcuts. There's no gray area for me. If it's not aboveboard, I can't speak for the past. Me. You know, I'm saying because I'm not. I haven't always been the person I am today, but where I'm at, I will never, ever like since I've been born, I've never shaded anybody did anybody wrong. Whatever, like fights, all these little stuff back in the day. That's different. But now, like, it is different from me. If somebody makes me mad or someone makes me feel a certain way, I don't even argue. I just cut them off. And then there. 

Rich Bennett 10:19
Was a sense. 

Everson Travers 10:19
Don't you manage your energy, you know, say in and how you manage your energies on you, what you allow in. I don't allow negative energy in someone talking crazy. That's cool. I mean. 

Rich Bennett 10:29
Have you read the book The Secret? 

Everson Travers 10:31
No, but I have heard about it. 

Rich Bennett 10:33
Okay. No, because I mean, you talk about the blogs and what you just said. A lot of that is about the law of attraction. You're lining yourself with positivity and all that. 

Everson Travers 10:42
A great book that I couldn't find anytime soon was M.K. Cherry A pocketful of Money. And that book is not about money at all. It's about your body, your spirits, your focus, your mind on what you truly focus on. Because as, as humans, as people, everything good thing we focus on, we get. 

Dan Bennett 11:04
Oh. 

Everson Travers 11:05
Every, every single thing we focus on. We get like you can't name one thing that you focus on that you didn't get if you didn't get it, you didn't focus hard enough. You let something distract you that I'm saying. So my biggest thing is just focusing on the things that truly make sense to me and my family. Yeah. 

Joe Ayler 11:20
And I think that that's something that yeah, when when I was younger and people told me shit like that, I don't know if it's is something where they fit in. 

Everson Travers 11:29
Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm living that, you know, when it's. 

Rich Bennett 11:35
I mean, Tony and Danny really haven't experienced it yet. Yeah. I mean, I was the same way when I was younger, you know? You didn't. You. You're blowing your money. Yeah. You're out partying, having a good time. Yeah. No, you didn't care. 

Everson Travers 11:47
No. 

Rich Bennett 11:48
Now it. It's. I know of me is completely different. And I've done this before, and I think I've told my son about this. If I go if I'm down to my last $10, but I see somebody on the street that needs it more, I'm giving it to him. Money's just a thing. Yeah. Do we need to pay the bills and all that? Yeah. Do we need it to be happy? 

Sometimes. But are there other people that need it to be happier than us? Yeah, and I've mentioned this before on, on several episodes about even smiling man, because you can change somebody else's life to hell. They could start living a more fulfilling life even when dawn that damn, what was that thing called covert COVID where Mask Yeah. You could still see if somebody was smiling. Mm hmm. Yeah. From their eyes. 

Joe Ayler 12:41
And you make you happy? Absolutely. Does it make things easier? Yeah. Like. Like ever since there were times in my life, you know, where I. Where I have money. Mm. Yeah. And there were times in my life when. 

Everson Travers 12:55
You know, I feel that. 

Joe Ayler 12:58
Where I have money, was it easier? For sure. But it doesn't make, you. 

Everson Travers 13:03
Know for sure. 

Rich Bennett 13:04
Hell, look at how many people hit the lottery and then of being bankrupt in 82%. Is that what it is? 

Everson Travers 13:10
Go. Go. Completely broke within the first few years of hitting the lotto. Wow. 82%. That's crazy. 

Rich Bennett 13:17
That is. 

Everson Travers 13:18
Not. That's crazy. 

Dan Bennett 13:19
It's crazy, but it's not unbelievable. 

Everson Travers 13:21
No, not by any means. I'm a I'm a I think I means that we're speaking freely like, okay, so I've always made a good bit of money but haven't made the money that I'm making now until I went in the real estate. And, you know, when I first started making real money because I never had it, I was just a fool. I was a nigga, you know? I'm saying, like the Kanye West type. Let me get the cars. Let me get the jewelry, Let me get the Louis Vuitton, Let me get the Gucci. This is just show people that I had it. And as I grew outside of that and really realize what money meant, like real money, like people that have real money you don't even know. Like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, he's wearing bummy pants, in your opinion. And a shirt, a regular shirt and some shoes that don't have no names on them, you know, I'm saying. So as I started to be modest, it truly made a difference, man. So when you don't have it, I could truly understand how that went. You're saying the only thing that saved me is I just kept bringing in more and more and more. You know, I'm saying it didn't allow me to really fall in the deep rabbit pit, but yeah, I made some smart investment moves and, you know, real estate is where I'm at today. But I could see how people could go that way. You know what I mean? I could I can see it. 

Joe Ayler 14:33
Being rich in the wealthy. You know, the rich people make a lot of money and they spend a. 

Everson Travers 14:38
Lot of money. 

Joe Ayler 14:39
The rich people make a lot of money. 

Everson Travers 14:41
They keep a lot of money. Yeah. 

Joe Ayler 14:42
And yeah. So something interesting about the lottery, something I read, you know, people constantly criticize, you know, lower income individuals make money in lottery. 

Everson Travers 14:54
Mm. 

Joe Ayler 14:55
Well, they don't, you know, they don't have the money to spend. So why are you spending the money on a lottery ticket? I was, I was down in a group, an event in Maryland. I've seen it just like two weeks ago. Yeah. And it was like Thursday during the day, you know, And you walk in a casino filled with people. 

Everson Travers 15:13
Mm. Mm hmm. One thing I saw. 

Joe Ayler 15:17
These people doing in here on Thursday at 1:00 in the. 

Everson Travers 15:20
Morning. 

Joe Ayler 15:21
And I've read something somewhere. It's, you know, the lower income individuals buy the lottery ticket for it. Yeah, It's. 

Dan Bennett 15:29
The concept of the hope than they are. 

Joe Ayler 15:32
Yeah, it's the whole money. And it's like, how can you criticize somebody from buying a lottery ticket? Right, Right. 

You know, maybe not. Yeah, but I just thought it was an interesting concept. How can you deny somebody a chance to be hopeful. 

Rich Bennett 15:48
Then, If. 

Joe Ayler 15:48
It is? Yeah. Yeah, not the best way, but, you know, I thought that. 

Rich Bennett 15:52
No taking it. Yeah. You don't want to take away their dream. 

Dan Bennett 15:55
No. And, you know, I mean, I'll dabble in sports gambling a little bit responsibly. Please gamble responsibly. That's my disclaimer of the day for anybody listening. But like, yeah, if, if I've only got $5 there, I'm not going to throw it on just the Orioles to win a game. I'm going to throw that on like 16 different teams to win the game. Yeah, it's not going to hit. I know it's not going to hit, but that is, you know, I never. 

Everson Travers 16:18
Feel right, right. 

Dan Bennett 16:19
Right. I could turn I could turn $5 into, hey, I can call off for the next three months, you know, And when you're like, man, I feel bad about calling one day off. And, you know, I kind of need every paycheck. It's like, Yeah, if I've got $5 to blow shit, let me blow it. 

Rich Bennett 16:35
Well, you should do it. Just take the money you're making off a ticktock and use that for gambling. I do. Oh, don't. 

All 16:40
Worry. 

I thought you were using it for DoorDash. 

Rich Bennett 16:45
That two. Oh. 

Dan Bennett 16:48
It's whatever money comes from wherever it goes. Wherever. But you know, you got to take care of your priorities first. Otherwise your life is not fulfilled. That's the topic of today's conversation. 

Everson Travers 16:58
See, that's like speaking in code fulfilled is how you feel fit and whether that's spending your last $5 on betting on a certain team or spending it responsibly and trying to double it up by whatever makes you happy at the end of the day. Right? So my dad is 75 years old and he can outwork anybody in the gym. He looks good. Like he's like, you know, people think he's like 50 years old, you know what I'm saying? And it's because he does what he loves every day. Like he's up at five every day. He goes to the gym in five every day. He helps people. He built the he built the hospital to help kids like deformed kids and stuff like that, man. So, like, it's big. It's big and it's bigger than him. And I feel that when you're living in your element, when you're living your true self, you live longer and longer and longer. And I feel like the people that are, you know, passing away, like my mother just passed, you know, I'm saying and that's that's tough for me. But I don't feel, in my opinion, like he was living a fulfilling life. I don't feel she lived, you know, the way she wanted to live. You know, I'm saying, but who am I to judge that? Right? And so I feel that you live longer when you do what you love. When you do, it makes you feel better. You could podcast til the end of the world. I figure you'll live your life because that's what you love. You. 

Rich Bennett 18:13
I'm saying you could you could. 

Everson Travers 18:15
You could do Ruth and so much more. And he wrote continuous drive. Yeah, I'm saying because it's what you love it. I'm saying you too. If you're where you're at, you're saying where you feel comfortable and stuff like that, then you're going to strive. But I feel like, you know, I feel is three things in his world. You know, saying we're here for this, okay? One is finding our gift, whether it be knitting baseball players, football players, podcast construction workers, real estate moguls, whatever it is, then you master that gift. I'm saying be the best you can at it. And I feel like that's where a lot of us get stuck. We had some success, but then that final part is key. That's where I'm at now, is giving back. Yeah, yeah. I'm saying and I'm a football coach. I do a lot of volunteer stuff. I feel like a lot of times I don't do enough and that's what makes me feel better. On a daily basis. All the rest of the stuff just helps me help other people. You know, I'm saying that the money that I make from real estate helps me coach, helps me bring up kids, helps me take, you know, ten kids to a football game that never been to a football game in their life, all funded by me and other coaches that have that same, you know, drive. And I feel like that that's just important. I feel people go through life and don't find their gift is kind of going through the regular things. I'll work till I get retirement and then I retire and I get Social Security. But is that what you want to do? You I'm saying some people want to do that, but some people, they want so much more, but just are scared to step outside of that comfort zone with stopping. You know, I'm worried when. 

Rich Bennett 19:38
I'm tired or busier. Yeah. After they retire. Ron feelings you know Ron prime example you're retired from the automotive industry now he's so busy of all these nonprofits but he loves it. Yeah and that's another I mean because I know the three of us volunteer, I don't know if you two do or not, but I feel so good, you know, volunteering and doing stuff. And when you can make a difference, Joe does it all the time. I mean, he how many boards you sit on know enough. Yeah. I mean, like last year I was sit on seven boards. I said I need to sit down for some boards and I'm just too busy. So I did that. Well I do. 

Everson Travers 20:23
Stuff in. 

All 20:23
The summer. A lot of. 

Rich Bennett 20:24
Stores have boards, but I mean, sometimes you just got it. Maybe it's just moving from one nonprofit to another to help you. I mean, I you know, the one board I'm on is for addiction. Yeah. Which I'm passionate about. The other one's for the College Station. The college radio station? Yeah. Because they also teach podcast. I'm passionate about. 

Everson Travers 20:48
It. 

Rich Bennett 20:49
And of course, the other ones have kids and everything, you know, helping kids. But it does, it fills me and it just I feel so good doing it. MM Yeah. I mean it's. 

Joe Ayler 21:02
I think it's a much easier conversation to have with yourself when you're a little older. 

Everson Travers 21:06
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, definitely. 

Joe Ayler 21:08
When I was in my mid twenties and I was like, so and I was stressed, man, I remember 24, 25 I was stressed, mean, I didn't know what I was going to do with my life. I didn't know, you know, the future was uncertain. I wasn't 

cognitively mature and how I thought about myself, you know what I'm saying? Growth. You start to know yourself. 

Everson Travers 21:33
When you get older. 

Joe Ayler 21:35
In your twenties, it's like you kind of know yourself, but getting to know yourself a little. 

Everson Travers 21:40
Bit, um. 

Joe Ayler 21:41
But to have conversations about fulfillment and, and empathy and purpose. Yeah, I mean, I guess maybe you could tell somebody in their twenties and they might get it. 

Everson Travers 21:51
But not always interesting. Totally not get it at that age. 

Joe Ayler 21:55
But if you what you tell these young people, hey, you do this, this you're going to be you'll be fucking 15, 20 years ahead of everybody. You just say, Mm hmm. Yeah. Like if someone told me, told me about my parents that mom and dad would tell me you saved 10% of your income. 

Everson Travers 22:10
Mm 

mm. 

Smart. Yeah. Yeah. 

All 22:17
Uh huh. 

Everson Travers 22:19
Buying half the bar and drinks. Yeah. Oh, God. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

Mm hmm. Mm hmm. 

Joe Ayler 22:27
Yeah. Yeah. But I volunteered because I 

if I would have followed ism, 

you know what I'm saying? 

Everson Travers 22:38
Mm 

mm, mm. Oh, yeah. 

Rich Bennett 22:46
You know, I wish. 

Everson Travers 22:47
We could just plug in a USB port, you know, saying to the kids, like, look, here you go. Take this right. 

All 22:52
Here. Yeah. 

Everson Travers 22:52
And do what you do. Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 22:55
Yeah. I know. When I was 

after I got out of the Corps, I was a warmonger drinking all the time in the party, working in the nightclubs. You know, it just. Yes, but at the same time, my depression and anxiety was off the charts, and I remember having that rifle twice ready to end it all, you know? But, I want you to probably agree with me on this, something that really changed my life. The kids the kids came along, man. That God man that filled me. I felt so good, you know, great with him. It was, you know, so went through a lot of shit, but it was I wouldn't change anything. No, not at all. You know? And then. And then the girls came and I lost my hair. 

All 23:48
So it. 

Dan Bennett 23:50
Was. It was going away. Well, I was looking for somebody different. 

Rich Bennett 23:54
Big difference. 

Everson Travers 23:55
It's different. Yeah, it's different. 

Tony Muns 23:57
Having that external view, you know, instead of looking internally at what I need, you know, having that, that need to. How can I help someone else? Mm hmm. Yeah. I grabbed my brother's special needs. He's two years older than me, and I grew up in that that type of environment. You know, my parents made tons of sacrifices, right? Yeah, I just. I constantly saw that, you know, I grew up in that environment. Then making sacrifices. My mom sacrificed her entire career to help it. You know, you couldn't talk, you know, And over the years, he got a lot of help and was able to talk. And I can understand. 

Everson Travers 24:32
Right. 

Tony Muns 24:33
But, yeah, it's you know, I think a lot of people take things for granted, you know, And I think just like you're talking about, you know, having having any and, you know, I just got married and having that external view, having something important. 

Everson Travers 24:46
Mm hmm. 

Tony Muns 24:47
You know, now we're expecting it's like, man, like, I couldn't. Couldn't be. 

All 24:51
On. Oh. Oh, Daddy did it. No, 

thanks. 

Rich Bennett 24:57
Regrets ever said another reason. This is not. 

All 25:00
Like. 

Dan Bennett 25:01
What's so Rebecca's not drinking? 

Rich Bennett 25:05
No, don't say anything. Because nobody else knows yet. 

All 25:10
There you. 

Tony Muns 25:10
Go. Yeah, I couldn't. I couldn't be happier. I'm on cloud nine. Yeah, I can't stand 

it. I saw something else, too, that 

it was on a billboard for a store, and she said, don't focus on when you win. And it was the first win was regarding time. Right. And and the second one was it, you know, don't, don't focus on everyone else. Right? What they're doing is for when you know someone else, maybe $80,000 in debt driving down the road in a mercedes. Mm hmm. And and you have more net worth in them, but you're playing your cards smarter, right? Like, don't focus on when your your promotion for your job or your development. Like, you may not get there. Like, my dad was enlisted in the Air Force for 23 years you know, and had, you know, a lot of had three kids. One special needs right. And coming along, he, you know, was just a master sergeant when he retired. Right. But he in his thirties, he kind of woke up like you guys did. Right. And got it. Got it, got his degree, got his master's degree. And, you know, now he's at an executive level at a hospital, you know, not a normal path right? 

Everson Travers 26:31
Yeah. 

Tony Muns 26:32
It's again, don't wanna focus on like everyone else. Right. And their timing everyone has their own time, timeline, time frame. Um, but yeah, I mean a lot of, a lot of it for me, just like perspective of what I've grown up around too. 

Everson Travers 26:45
Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 26:47
So when you, when you were younger, 

the Special Olympics, did your brother participate in that? Did they have huggers then? Yes, they did. Yeah. Okay. Because that's, that's something that we loved and we had a cousin with Down's syndrome and it was my other cousin helped. I'm going to forget the lady's name, the Kennedy that started Special Olympics. Shriver Maria Shriver, not Maria Shriver, the mother. Anyways, she it was her and my cousin that actually got together, started creating this the Special Olympics. There you go down there during those times and be a hugger. Wow. But I've always said this. When you see somebody, especially with Down's syndrome, when they smile, it just if it fills you up because there's no other smile like it. Whenever our cousin used to come around or we would go over there cause she loved me the best, you know, I was her favorite. 

Dan Bennett 27:44
The trouble. All your trouble? 

Rich Bennett 27:47
Yeah, she would always say that. But she loved me. Yeah, but she just then. 

Dan Bennett 27:51
No. Well, sometimes. 

All 27:53
It's more or less. 

Rich Bennett 27:56
But she just. I mean, she would just brighten up everybody in the room, you know? Oh, my God. An Elvis fan. 

Tony Muns 28:03
Whoa, there, soldier side. 

Rich Bennett 28:07
Yeah. 

Tony Muns 28:08
Right. 

Like you sense it. 

Rich Bennett 28:12
Yeah. It's amazing, man. 

Tony Muns 28:14
Not every like, people. 

Mm. Up in 

the 

you know, she. 

Everson Travers 28:36
Mm hmm. 

Tony Muns 28:37
And you wouldn't believe the reaction when that. When that's true. I mean. 

Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 28:44
Oh, yeah. Big time. Big time. The, the and the thing is, I always say these see this people have different abilities. You can learn a lot from you can learn a hell of a lot from we, we had a guy in the club 

who had diabetes and started losing limbs and all that and then went blind, had to go to. 

Joe Ayler 29:06
School to learn how to. 

Rich Bennett 29:07
Be blind, which I didn't know was a thing. Britney Spears were always. So he was he was probably well, he was he was the most active member in our club at the time. Even when he was blind and in a wheelchair because he'd be on the phone calling people, doing all this. He was in the bowling team and he got trophies for bowling. 

All 29:25
Ball and bowling. That's what. 

Rich Bennett 29:28
I buy. He taught me. 

Everson Travers 29:30
A lot of stuff. 

Rich Bennett 29:32
And when he came back on, well, he said 

he had us all cracking up because he said the hospital put in a drive thru for him because he would just go up and say, okay, which lift do you need to take Now? He take it or whatever. But he was always joking about, you know, he was one, you know, fine with it. He knew. But we learned a lot from him. So even as you know, things go on through your life and things change, you look to. Is it an obstacle? Yeah. What do we learn in the core? Overcoming overcome. Right. You know, and that's what you that's what you need to do. It doesn't mean that living a fulfilled life is over. Now, It may be. It may just start. 

Everson Travers 30:21
Though. It's all about. It's all about perspective. You have two people that go through the same situation and both of them look at it two completely different ways, like optimistic versus pessimistic. One person's go look at it like, holy shit, my life is effed up. Yeah, I feel like blowing my brains out. The other person would be like, Hey, look, you know, hey, let me write this off. Like, brush this off, get over a speed bump real quick and keep it moving. I always say that life is like, you know, like Google Maps, right? Like, any time. Like, you have to truly focus on the end game. It took me a while to figure what that end game was like, but really dig deep and where do I want to be? What do I feel comfortable with? How do I see my ideal world? And I put that here and I wrote it down and have everything here and now as I'm going through life, I start off here. But if I get hit or something, I go sideways. I'm going to reroute, you know, I'm saying I'm going to reroute to that final destination. But if you never put that final destination in, you're just going to run reckless. You know, I'm saying so you really have to dig deep. I feel fulfillment is for filling yourself to to overflow to others. You not, I'm saying. And you can only fulfill yourself if you truly dig deep. And for men, it's usually tough because you have to self analyze and you have to do those deep digs. You have to ask those tough questions. You know, I'm saying like you have to really dig deep if you really want to truly be your best. And when people do that, I feel that they offer filled and they're able to pour that out to others and share that. But if you don't do that, you can't fill yourself, so you can't fulfill anything. Yeah, that's my opinion. You know, I'm saying. 

Tony Muns 31:52
Saying something to do, someone to love something. Yeah. You know, like you said. Well, guys, I mean, if we, you know, we get complacent or don't have anything that we're striving toward, we can get in trouble. Really? 

Everson Travers 32:04
Mm hmm. 

Tony Muns 32:04
Mm hmm. Mm. 

Everson Travers 32:06
Mm hmm. Been there, done that, you know, wrote the book. 

All 32:11
But tell you. 

Joe Ayler 32:13
You know, setting goals, you know, obviously. 

Everson Travers 32:16
Mm. 

Joe Ayler 32:17
Where you want to. 

Hey. Yes. Because I think if you behave and I say behavior, I mean behavior in life. 

Everson Travers 32:29
Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. 

Joe Ayler 32:32
Mm hmm. Virtue more or whatever. 

If you behave in a certain way throughout your life and meeting your goals is really just going to be a side effect. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. You know, not that not to say that, you know, setting goals is 

supersedes your behavior, but I, you know, focus on that and then another thing, you know, awareness. 

When I run into tough situations, whether it's work or whether it's at my house, 

the talk. 

Rich Bennett 33:11
The dog taking a dump on the floor, you. 

All 33:12
Start. 

Joe Ayler 33:15
When it's if I if I approach a challenging situation in life, it's it's inner dialogue. 

Everson Travers 33:22
Mm hmm. 

Joe Ayler 33:22
Mm hmm. And part of my, you know, just something simple to interact with. Mm hmm. You know, we get into it and have You can do something stupid. 

So. Mm hmm. say you're going to be. Mm hmm. Smart. You know, I challenge you to 

go into a different room. You know, and I think that that that awareness and that attention. Awareness to think to yourself. You know, I remember I was in a tough situation. I works a lot, 

you know, and, you know, recalls some pitch, and I've got you over. Bear on this. 

Everson Travers 34:11
Mm hmm. 

Joe Ayler 34:12
5 minutes now. You know, and, you know, eventually diffuse the situation. 

But, you know, eventually I found out his brother had died. 

Everson Travers 34:24
Mm hmm. Mm hmm. 

Joe Ayler 34:25
He had gone through some shit. He just happened to walk up one that we forgot. Two little 

water, two murders at the bottom of his valley. And he just happened to walk home on a rainy day, and the water was coming. 

Everson Travers 34:39
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 

Joe Ayler 34:43
And it wasn't a big deal. We went out the next day, took care of it. Right? You know, but. But in that moment, I just. 

I had that intention of awareness. And then little did I know somebody. One of my guys was in the office next door ing Pete, and he said, you know, I don't I. I'm so impressed. Mm hmm. Leave you that. That guy talk to you like that. 

Rich Bennett 35:06
Well, you never know what's going through that guy's head. Right. You know, and like you say, he just lost his brother. I mean, that's something a lot of people don't think about. You. You see, somebody is having problems and they're just raging. They're crazy, and they're doing this. You know what happened to that person? Right. You they could they could have just seen somebody die or something. You don't know. You don't know. Yeah, but you're right. You let them talk. Mm hmm. 

Joe Ayler 35:33
That awareness is I think, is has been key for. 

Everson Travers 35:37
Me as growth. It's good growth. 

Rich Bennett 35:39
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. 

Everson Travers 35:41
Yeah. 

Joe Ayler 35:41
Yeah. What? What's. What's the best way to respond? 

Rich Bennett 35:44
Yeah. Yes. And it's hard, man. 

Dan Bennett 35:48
I Yeah, because some people are just perpetually miserable, But you don't know why they're perpetually miserable, and maybe they're just surrounded by people who suck just like they do. But if you can be somebody who sucks less than they're coming off, maybe it'll make them a little bit better. Maybe. Maybe it'll make them a little bit happier. 

Rich Bennett 36:06
And yeah, I mean, it's funny because I remember one car dealership when I got into selling cars the first time, so they were teaching how to sell and customer on the lot. 

Tony Muns 36:20
So you don't ask him out, right? 

Rich Bennett 36:22
Why? 

Everson Travers 36:23
So I ask him who and what I love to say. It's a sales thing. It's a whole different. You sell a used toothbrush. God, gee. 

Rich Bennett 36:33
Whiz, I went out to help the guy. You guys go famous and I'm just looking. So I go, Okay, well, if you have any questions, it's okay. I'm just looking. That's all right. So I came back in. Manager calls me over. He said we done right. This is what the guy says. Look at this. The manager started yelling at me. 

Everson Travers 36:49
Mm hmm. I went all. 

Rich Bennett 36:53
Year. I diffuse the situation or I think I made it worse. And I told I said, let me tell you, sit there right now, you motherfucker. I said, I was in the Marine Corps. There's only two people that yell at me, my superior officers and my parents, you know, yell at me because if you want, I will kick your ass right now. I was pissed. Went sat down at my desk, which meant you got a call. And then it was Thompson and Thompson. Hey, baby, you ready to go to work? We got a job for you. But now I know. Like, you just let the people vent, man. Let them get it out. Because if you start yelling back, all you're doing is escalating and making it worse. 

Joe Ayler 37:33
And, like, a challenging situation. Yeah, somebody is pissed. Maybe you can be 

like, Hey, 

Dad, if 

you know, 

What do you think? 

Everson Travers 37:54
Wow. 

Rich Bennett 37:56
11 years. 

All 37:57
Old. 

Joe Ayler 38:00
But at that moment. 

Dan Bennett 38:01
Yeah, yeah. Now you're awake for another 3 hours and. 

Joe Ayler 38:04
Seconds to be aware. 

Everson Travers 38:05
Yeah. 

Joe Ayler 38:05
I mean, you can have that awareness in a second. You let me think. 

You. But it could be in a situation like that. It can be when somebody is pissed at you. It can be when you're, you know, whatever kissing your wife and you know, you can be aware. 

Tony Muns 38:23
And sometimes having that awareness to not even say anything, right? 

Everson Travers 38:28
Yeah. Yeah. 

Dan Bennett 38:29
Very much. 

Rich Bennett 38:29
Well. 

Tony Muns 38:30
Then you think about it later and you come back yelling. I don't even need responded. 

Everson Travers 38:35
Mm hmm. 

Tony Muns 38:35
Or you respond to it in a more, like, mature way, right? Or a more responsible way that that actually solves whatever is going on or helps. 

All 38:45
This. 

Everson Travers 38:46
Slam of true speaker. Okay, so like, I don't hold any cards back. I speak my mind. That's why I don't get into like, politics and things of that sort because like, I'm going to tell you exactly how it is. Right? And some people love it and some people get. 

All 38:59
It right, right, right. 

Everson Travers 39:01
And some people hate it, you know, saying and I feel like, you know, everybody wants to deal with real people until they deal with real people and then then they get real sensitive. You know, I'm saying like I'm just speaking the truth and my older self now I have a bigger filter. Okay. So I can still say the truth, but I can just tone it down a little bit because they might not understand the free flow that I'm about to give them. You know, I'm saying, like some people can maybe understand like a word chat and you guys might understand, but somebody, an outsider, I might say something. Oh, my, oh, my God. Oh, he said this and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, it's just different, man. Try to. 

Rich Bennett 39:37
Cancel your. 

Everson Travers 39:38
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think I think growth is very important for fulfillment and I feel a dedicated focus is, is big and in fulfillment because, you know, there's five guys sitting here and nobody has the same fulfillment, everybody has the same different ideas on what they're is. And, and that's not wrong. And either way I feel like with social media it let a lot of people be judgy. Everybody in their mother wants to judge every single thing you can do. A thousand things right? But let's you jaywalk across the street and some old lady saw you or something. Oh, my God, he didn't know this. And rah, rah rah rah, rah, rah, rah rah. A lot of So it's crazy, man. Yeah, yeah. Telephone, Internet heroes, Internet thugs, all this type of stuff and people getting picked on in that type of way. And I don't feel that's fair. I'm not I'm not a I don't judge people like I see multiple people, but don't judge it is what it is. You don't know what happened in their life, why they are the way they are or why they're doing this or why they're not doing this. So let them be, man. There's only one judge and jury, and that's the higher power upstairs. 

Rich Bennett 40:37
All right. Are any of you guys wondering what the hell Jose answer was to his son? 

All 40:43
You know what I'm like. 

Rich Bennett 40:44
Oh, boy, I know what my is. It would have been what it was. How the hell do you come on that question? 

All 40:50
Yeah. My answer would have been going. 

Everson Travers 40:51
Back to the end of the world. I don't fucking. 

All 40:53
Know. 

Joe Ayler 40:57
Yeah, that's the right answer. As as as a dad. And I don't want to digress. Alright. You know, as a dad. Yeah, I think. Feel that you got to have them. 

Everson Travers 41:08
All the time. Yeah. No. 

Joe Ayler 41:10
No, no. You know, and I think like you said about being real. 

Everson Travers 41:14
Mm mm. I think 

you. 

Joe Ayler 41:18
More but you know to see a young, you know, a young boy. 

Rich Bennett 41:23
I would've been blown away. 

Everson Travers 41:24
Really. Oh yeah. Like tell me Google it and let you know. 

Rich Bennett 41:28
Oh, I mean. 

All 41:29
If you find out, let me know. 

Rich Bennett 41:31
I'll say for. 

All 41:33
You. 

Dan Bennett 41:33
For a young kid to have such a deep thought at 930 at night, raising a good kid. Yeah, somebody's thinking of that at 11 years old as they're about to go to bed. 

Joe Ayler 41:42
He's a very. 

Dan Bennett 41:43
Good well, he might have insomnia if he's thinking about that at that late at night. 

Rich Bennett 41:46
So, yeah, my son asked me, you know, how come sheep don't shrink when they get wet in the rain? I mean, I mean, come on, can we. 

Dan Bennett 41:53
Google that. 

All 41:54
One? I still don't know. 

You know. 

Tony Muns 41:58
It's like actually investing in people when you're having a good conversation. Mm. Do you actually diving in like really, really listening to. 

Rich Bennett 42:05
Oh yes. 

Tony Muns 42:06
Acknowledging because I'm looking like your son, Like if you just kind of blew that off, you know, that could grow some resentment in him. 

Rich Bennett 42:12
Yeah. 

Tony Muns 42:13
He can grow a little older, you know, I might have to stop listening to you like or. Yeah, or, you know, an older person that's lonely all day and you come out and, you know, they're just they're chatty and like, you know, as a person, just trying to, you know, talk to me like, you know, if you actually just give them a couple of minutes of your time, you have no idea what kind of impact you may know. 

Rich Bennett 42:31
People can say that. 

Everson Travers 42:32
So I agree with that. And I used to give everybody all the time in the world, okay, But as I get older excuse me for saying this, people are fucking stupid, okay? And I have a real smile. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm just keeping it a buck. Okay? I have a real small tolerance for stupid people that. 

All 42:47
I. 

Everson Travers 42:48
Give stupid people my time because then I feel stupid talking to them. I just. I just can't do it, you know? I'm saying it's something about, Hey, look, if we can have a healthy conversation, and I already realized that in the first seconds, I'm out. You know, I'm saying, I don't need that. 

All 43:00
I don't need it. 

Everson Travers 43:00
No, I'm sorry. When I talked about protecting energy, I protect my thoughts as well, You know what I'm saying? 

Rich Bennett 43:06
Well, the other thing is, too, it's why I mentioned that book, The Secret. Well, you're talking to people. And if it's all all they're doing is talking negative stuff, they can bring you down. Oh, no, no. 

Everson Travers 43:16
I'll leave. Really? I don't. I do, too. I told them I'm big on energy, man. Even if I feel a certain type of way, I won't stay in the room. If, you know, people start talking reckless or. Oh, well, I can't do this and I can't do that. And I hate the way I don't get involved in those conversations because you're like, Fuck my life and I love my life, you know what I'm saying? I'm I'm looking at ways to improve, like, Hey, what you got going on? Maybe we can, you know, get on some, you know, business type of stuff to build together. That's where I'm man, I'm not, you know, I had. 

Rich Bennett 43:45
This inner 

contact me and they said, Rich, you know what happened to Harvard? Can you living in the podcast, being all positive stuff, I was like, What do you mean? It is? Well, no, you talk about it. You're talking about this. You talk about that. I said, Yeah, but. And the response and from the responses we've gotten, we're changing people's lives much more positive than that. Yeah. If you're helping somebody and you're changing their life, you're saving their life, whatever. 

Everson Travers 44:19
So I know exactly how that is. You know, I run Edgewood family and we get that all the time. We got over, you know, 15 K, almost 20 K members now. And it's 

the very few negative people really want to try to mess it up for everybody. But those are the people that are sitting home behind the computer that aren't doing anything anyway and analyzing every single thing everybody does on a daily basis. Yeah, I just I don't get those people. No energy, man. I just I just can't do it. You know? They're not they're not satisfied. No matter what you do, they're not going to be satisfied what they do. And I don't talk to or associate with those type of people. 

Rich Bennett 44:56
All right. And I know Tony Day and he probably don't do this YouTube my especially being business owners and everything. And I don't know if people do this with their life or not. I do. 

Everson Travers 45:09
Know. 

Rich Bennett 45:10
You guys, but every business has a business plan. Ever done that for your life? No, it wouldn't be a business plan, but a life plan. Yeah. You told them you had that and. No, but what does a business plan do? It changes throughout the years. 

Everson Travers 45:25
It just. It. Yeah. And just like life. Life changes throughout the years. Yeah, but I feel you have to have some type of goal. So back in the day, I'm still part of it. The life in a group called Life in There, and it's about living life first and everything comes second. Okay. Like designing your business to support the life that you want to live, designing the things that you do to support, and in that it made you dig deep to what you truly want. Oh, I want a big mansion or with a boat and on some on some waterfront. But you know, why did you want that big house? Yeah, I wanted that big house because I'm a family man. I want all my family to be together, you know? Same. So how do you do that? You know, without the bigger. And it just made you ask some some truly deep questions on on self and life itself on where you truly wanted to go. Why this why that. And as I as I truly dig deeper in the life every day, I only continue to grow every that's just something that I love. I feel like some people just get stagnant, you know, and just get comfortable. And that's it that way for the rest of our you know. 

Joe Ayler 46:26
I love what said earlier. You know, 

someone I was in of a leadership mastermind. 

Everson Travers 46:35
Mm hmm. 

Mm hmm. 

Joe Ayler 46:43
But 

I thought I guess it wasn't like, Oh, I forget what this. 

Rich Bennett 46:49
Was a Greg. What was it? Greg? 

Joe Ayler 46:52
No, no. Okay. You know, as it was, you know where I see myself in ten ten years, I think I. Mm hmm. Write your name down. How would you know? You're going to be in ten years and write the date that it is in ten years from now, Which was easy to me. First, when I write and I said exactly what you said, I want to be able to do what I want. When I want. How I want. Mm hmm. With absolutely no. 

Everson Travers 47:17
Restriction. Yup. 

Joe Ayler 47:18
Yup. I think that, you know, being able to have the freedom of choice. 

Everson Travers 47:25
To do. 

Joe Ayler 47:25
What I want when I want. 

Everson Travers 47:26
As powerful as. 

Joe Ayler 47:28
Can be. Anything. Yeah. It can be a vacation. 

Everson Travers 47:31
It can be work. Mm hmm. 

Joe Ayler 47:32
It can be chaperoning a field trip. Mm hmm. Staying home, it can be doing whatever want, you know? And they. They they dug down, you know? Do you want to travel? And what do you want to do? Well, tell me exactly what you want to do, you know? And, um. But, yeah, I think the freedom of choice, you know, just being able to do what I want, where I want, how I want and have no restrictions, you know? 

Rich Bennett 47:58
Yeah. And don't wait. 

Everson Travers 47:59
Yeah. Yeah. That's the biggest thing. A lot of people wait, and then it's too late. 

Rich Bennett 48:03
I had a I was speaking with a guy not too long ago, and he brought up he brought up something, and it just blew me away. He said draw a line on a piece of paper and put a hash on each. And this is when you were born. This is when you would die. Mm hmm. Then put a hash where you think you are right now, like you're in the middle or you're towards the end or whatever. Now, think of it as if you put it in the middle at the end. Things that you that you want to do to. To fulfill your life or whatever. Mm hmm. You know, you got that amount of time to do it. 

Everson Travers 48:42
And. 

Rich Bennett 48:43
Get it done. 

Joe Ayler 48:43
I think the two powerful things that that I do a lot 

that I still do in this day to day, I think. Daydreaming. 

Everson Travers 48:52
Mm hmm. 

Joe Ayler 48:53
Yeah. Whether you call or fantasize. 

Everson Travers 48:55
Mm hmm. 

Joe Ayler 48:56
If I'm running, if I'm working out, if I'm driving. And I always fantasize or daydream about what I want my life to be like in the future. Mm hmm. And I think that if you tell these young people to visualize what you want, what you want your life to be like in the future, you will subconsciously, unconsciously work towards that. You know, when I was younger, I wanted to be a family man. Mm hmm. And, you know, I wanted to be somebody that people could trust. And I wanted to be dependent on your qualities and my characteristics that I wanted to see in myself. And I subconsciously became that, you know? So I think what these young people visualize internally, what kind of person you want to be, and you will work towards. 

Rich Bennett 49:41
The mission. 

Joe Ayler 49:43
And then becoming that person. 

Tony Muns 49:44
They ask you that. 

Everson Travers 49:45
So the power of the mind. 

Tony Muns 49:46
You know, you have to build like healthy habits, right? Mm hmm. Over a long period of time. And like, for you guys with more life experience than me. How have you guys done that and how has it contributed more to shoot more fulfill. 

Rich Bennett 50:00
Learned from our mistakes? Yeah. 

Everson Travers 50:03
I feel that the mindset is the most important. 

You have to believe it to achieve it. You know, say it. If you don't believe in yourself, nobody's going to believe it. You know, like, since I was young, I've always been an entrepreneur, you know, saying I was never satisfied with average. I wasn't born to be average. And I felt that, you know, saying I didn't I was a loner. I had my groups, but I didn't hang out with those groups. They only did certain type of things. I wanted to be with the black bee. I wanted to be with the rock star. I want to be with the jocks. I wanted to be with the fucking crazy looking kids over here because they're fucking cool Shit. You know, I'm saying, like, I just. Just. I was a different person. You. I'm saying I was a different person. I like. I like to be around everybody, you know? I'm saying. So I feel like in life, in success, like, I guarantee you, you know, we've probably all failed more times than people even get off the bench. You know, I'm saying. But we do. We don't stop. And that's that's the thing. Like I've had many a dark nights where I'm sitting in the corner like, what the fuck did I just do? You know what I'm saying? Like, you take big chances, you take big risks, and then they don't all work out. But it's it's life is what you want to do, and it fills you. I feel like you asked about habits. I feel like when you truly focus on where you're going, those habits start to mold and that that's a true the power of the mind. That's where like people thought I was speaking Chinese. When I'm telling people just ten years ago, you know, I'm saying when I when I truly first started focusing and seeing all this type of stuff and like, as I'm talking to it, I see it happen and I've got a boat. Last year, I always wanted a boat. I was always on my buddy's boat, jet skis, and I finally bought one last year because of fucking I'm going to get a fucking boat, you know what I mean? So just to just to be able to do those things and and to to say it like I tell people all the time, like, what's next year I'll have that, that hotel that I've been talking about, you know, I'm saying next year I'll have that, you know, 255 storage unit that I was talking about. You know, I'm saying so like it's it's a mindset. And when you're in that mindset, you feel so good and everything seems to just fall into place habits. Okay, so you're doing what you love. You you might only hit the gym three times a week, but you feel great next week you might hit it for and then you might, you know, however much you feel like, you know, I'm saying how you how are you feel good and what you want to make it is the way to go. And it just I feel like everything falls under focus and mindset. You focus on the good stuff, you focus on where you want to go, stay positive through the dark times, the speed bumps and the people hitting you out left field when you only know where they came from. You got to find a positive and continue. Keep it moving. Yeah. 

Tony Muns 52:28
I was told one time you to be pleasantly aggressive in your life. 

Joe Ayler 52:33
I love. 

Everson Travers 52:34
Playing. I like that. 

Tony Muns 52:35
Because you can't be an ass, right? Like no one's gonna like you. No one's going to want to work with you or be around you, your family, your friends, whoever, coworkers. But pleasantly aggressive. I mean, no, you're all business know you're not. You're not going to cut corners or you're going all in, all in. But you're still a good person. Mm hmm. Well. 

Joe Ayler 52:55
Teddy Roosevelt walks off the end, Carry a big stick. Yup. You know, my kids will tell him when I'm long gone. My dad was a loving dad, and he was there on a night on the weekends, and he was really, really kind. 

Rich Bennett 53:08
Leaving a legacy, leaving a legacy over there. 

Joe Ayler 53:11
And you know what is. 

Everson Travers 53:12
The. 

All 53:12
Same way? 

Rich Bennett 53:13
Who's I remind you of who always people said about, you know, he was a teddy bear, but don't piss him off. Mm. Nana, Titi. 

Dan Bennett 53:21
Nana. 

All 53:22
Oh, yeah. You know. 

Joe Ayler 53:25
I love listening to him and he says. Oh, I'll probably get this wrong if we have. He. You know, it's better to be a warrior in the garden. 

Everson Travers 53:35
In the garden or in a war. 

Joe Ayler 53:38
So it's better to be able to be savage in. 

Everson Travers 53:41
Control, never to have that ability, never to have. 

Joe Ayler 53:46
And I say I'm trying to teach my son. It's very much 

love being empathetic. He's a reader. 

You have a you have to constantly remind him that the world the world is ferocious. Dear man. You don't have to use it. 

Everson Travers 54:06
But you have got to be aware. 

Joe Ayler 54:08
Of that because you need to downshift. 

Everson Travers 54:10
And get. 

Joe Ayler 54:11
Your ass moving, not to have the gear. If you don't have the gear, you know, I mean, you don't have it. Yeah, you know, but I love to tell you walk softly and carry a big stick to me Means I'm a kind man. I'm empathetic and loving and reasonable. But don't fuck with me because I will beat your fucking ass. 

Everson Travers 54:27
Yeah, And people feel that, you know, I'm saying, like, when, when, when you walk in a room, people. People can feel that, like, yeah, they're going to know who they can mess with and not mess with. And all those type of things. Like you don't have to jump into the room and you know, man, we're lions, we're alphas. 

All 54:42
Rah rah, buddy, I'm in the room. 

Everson Travers 54:44
You know, I'm saying now, but we can we can be in the back of the room and. Yeah. And control everything. You know, I'm saying. 

Rich Bennett 54:50
The other thing, Tony, what I was ending and what I would suggest 

the age, even as you get older, the age thing, throw it out the window. I'm the oldest one here. We know you can always learn. You always learn to shut up. 

All 55:08
You get old, you doesn't care. 

Rich Bennett 55:09
See, you always learn from the people you align yourself your yourself with. It doesn't matter. Age. I've learned so much from Joe, especially about giving back to the community is ridiculous. 

Other people are doing this alone, you know, just the people I ally myself with and even the ones I do virtually. We talk all the time, whether it's in Canada, whether they're in Canada or wherever, because you you make friendships and you learn a lot from them. And even the younger ones, man, it's 

it helps you grow. You can still grow as you're older. Shit. You know, it's still people will look at you like you think, you know, like you're 25. 

Everson Travers 55:59
And layman's terms don't align with. 

All 56:00
Stupid places. 

Rich Bennett 56:02
I just feel like I'm 21. All right. 

All 56:04
Yeah. 

Dan Bennett 56:05
There's something to that, though. I mean, throughout life in general, you don't want to just stick to your generation. I mean, if I only spoke to millennials, I might have already pulled the trigger of the rifle that he was looking at. But I've talked to, you know, other groups from other generations. You know, Gen Xers have their own perspective. Gen Z has their own perspective coming up. And then whatever's after Gen Z, I want to know how they feel about the world that I'd be afraid to bring someone into right now. And then like, you know, Boomers and the Silent Generation still kicking around. Everybody has their own perspective on the world and it's valuable to hear what everybody has to say about it. 

Rich Bennett 56:44
Yes, I can't wait. I got a lady coming on the podcast. She's 101 years old. This is going to be virtual, but, well, she's one I'm amazed about is she's doing podcast. 

Joe Ayler 56:56
She has an AOL. 

All 56:57
Email 

account now, you know. 

Rich Bennett 57:02
Definitely 100. Is she storing books? 

All 57:05
It's like. 

Everson Travers 57:06
Oh, and see, look, that's another example of somebody doing what they love. Yeah, she's 100 something years old. I guarantee you, if you take and look at everybody 75 years and up that rich past 100, they're all doing something in life that they love. It might is probably not working. They're probably volunteering or or knitting or helping out kids or something like that. They're doing something they truly love. And that's how you extend your life. And you got to love it, man. Yeah, yeah. 

Tony Muns 57:34
Yes. Well, Rebecca's and for example, it's just her 90. 

Rich Bennett 57:37
90 year Carol. 

Tony Muns 57:38
And when I met her earlier, it was at December, I met her for the first time up here. You know, she reminded me of the Queen for some reason, because she's so in tune with. 

Rich Bennett 57:48
Oh, she is. You would not think she was not opposite. 

Tony Muns 57:51
Tack, you know. Yeah. I mean, I mean in invested in what you're doing remembers, you know everything and it just tells you like she's very intentional as a person. 

Rich Bennett 58:03
Like I have to laugh because so bad my mother in law who's also on social media and all my friends are talking about how they love to see Carol post. They you know, she's a she's she's a whip, 90 years old. And she I'm telling you, made apologize. It doesn't look it either. 

Tony Muns 58:20
Eight times for not having a smile. And even. 

All 58:25
Though she does have the high. 

Rich Bennett 58:27
Speed Internet. 

All 58:28
Joke, 

I. 

Joe Ayler 58:37
Know coming in. 

Dan Bennett 58:38
Well, now she'll never listen to this one. 

Rich Bennett 58:40
Oh, 

God. 

Tony Muns 58:44
It's just an emotional intelligence by chance at all. 

Everson Travers 58:49
No. 

Tony Muns 58:50
That that's a. 

Dan Bennett 58:51
That's a good topic. 

Tony Muns 58:52
We should have a podcast. 

Dan Bennett 58:53
As a good topic. 

Tony Muns 58:54
Is this like you're time out dealing with difficult people. 

Rich Bennett 58:56
So when you come back again. 

All 58:58
I'll come back whenever anyone said, When's the baby? 

Tony Muns 59:01
Is it when's that baby? 

Rich Bennett 59:04
We stopped doing it once. 

Dan Bennett 59:05
It was just thinking, BBL. 

All 59:07
That's what I was saying, baby. What 

longer before baby. 

Rich Bennett 59:12
Barbecue is just booze and barbecue. 

Everson Travers 59:14
Oh. 

Rich Bennett 59:15
But I just got rid of two of my girls to man. 

Joe Ayler 59:19
Yeah, I think when you hear about these old people like Warren Buffet and you hear about the people in charge, you know, the old lady that gave 50% of her fortune to the church, giving Warren Buffet. He has a young person. 

Everson Travers 59:33
Why now? Why now? She given all the their. 

Tony Muns 59:37
Of the church. 

Joe Ayler 59:38
You know, and then you start to as you get older, you realize why and. 

Everson Travers 59:44
You know, it's you you always get it back tenfold, man. Whatever you whatever you send out. Yeah. 

Joe Ayler 59:50
You can't. You can't, you can't. You can. You know, I remember me a couple about four years ago. We live in Darlington right now and bought a we bought a house four years ago and, you know, house on the hill, you know, beautiful land, you know, And I remember about it. That was maybe like two days after we moved into the house. I remember I woke up early in the morning and the sun's coming up over the hill and my kids and my wife are asleep. And I made a cup of coffee and thought this was going to be my like my big moment, you know? And I remember thinking like, this thing is the hell. 

Everson Travers 1:00:31
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

Joe Ayler 1:00:32
You know, now I don't want to downplay, but it was, you know, it was a peaceful moment, right? But it was like, well, what's next? I started building a house and, you know, is it anything you can't take it with you? And we had a chance to move into a, you know, a bigger house. And me and my wife sat down and we're like, you guys really discuss what we want and what we need in this house right now. And we spend 80% of our time and 20%. 

Everson Travers 1:00:58
Of the house. Mm mm. I know. 

Joe Ayler 1:01:01
Right? You know, and you start to gain these kind of perspectives like, you know, the house and the car. You can't take any note, any new cars. Getting people walking by on was ever seen, you know, doing, you know, we do gave back to his community with a good father and husband you know and. 

Rich Bennett 1:01:20
I well they don't look at me as a. 

All 1:01:22
Good person. 

Everson Travers 1:01:24
So so so to continue on with that, 

I totally believe in that. And I believe like, what you put out is what you get back. You know what I'm saying? And if you're a posse, you're going to you're going to bring in posse stuff, you know, I'm saying, and you're going to have problems. But when you're truly genuine, like that goes a long way. You're going to get that back, you know, tenfold. You're going to get all that back. Last year, they talked about cars and stuff like that. Like, I don't I'm comfortable. I don't I don't need anything. My family doesn't need me for anything. So last year, we started our Christmas vacation and something we do every year now kids only get a gift. One gift. And last year we start our first one at Deep Creek. We went away for a year. Deep creek, instead of, you know, spending a couple grand on toys and, you know, everything they want, understand, electronics. By the time you look you and spend a couple of grand on Christmas, that's a whole vacation. Yeah. And you don't even remember that. And I don't remember toys they got. Tell me what you got last Christmas. Oh, yeah, exactly. How about to Christmas? How about your birthday? How about, you know, graduation? They can't say none of that. But They can sit here and tell you all the memories, all the good times. We went to Deep Creek for that week, man, I'm telling you, it. The bond is just a just a having everybody together, like, after gifts, man like that, that memory will last forever, you know, I'm saying. And they loved it. And we're starting something good. Yeah, Yeah, we can. Yeah. We can't change. We can't change what happened before us. Our fathers did it. How our grandfathers or grandparents did it. But we can change how we do it and the generations behind us. A lot of people are like, Oh, I was raised this way. I don't know any better, but yes, I'll change it. I didn't like the way my father was not there in my life. So what did I do? I change that. I was there for everything from my kids. Even though being a single parent. Yeah, I'm saying so it's not about what happened to you. It's about what you take that what you take that, what you take from that and what you do with it. You know, I'm saying so I know the generations from now on are going to be family, man. Yeah, man, Not my dad was. Don't let don't get me wrong, he was a family man. He provided. He just was running around doing what he had to do. You know, I'm saying what he felt he needed to do. And that was cool. Between my parents, that's their business, you know? I mean, all I know is that I seen what I didn't like, and I change that for myself and my kids. And that's going to change generations down the road, you know, saying I don't have anything that's going to be passed on from me, from my parents, my grandparents. But I will have something to pass over to leave a legacy for my kids. I live for my kids. I'm a servant to my kids. I'm a servant of my family. I do what I do and everything I do for everybody else. 

Tony Muns 1:03:55
I have a lot of respect. Yeah, I'm a mom writing my dad kind of doing some similar thing, you know, changing, you know, as each generation does. This is what I want to do and what I don't want. 

Everson Travers 1:04:05
Yeah. Yeah. It takes. 

Tony Muns 1:04:06
A lot of intestinal. 

Everson Travers 1:04:08
Fortitude. It definitely, definitely. Yeah. 

Joe Ayler 1:04:10
The memories are powerful for sure. I mean, my kids up probably a thousand times, but my son always remember that time I was 15 minutes late. 

All 1:04:19
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

Everson Travers 1:04:21
Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. 

All 1:04:24
Give me credit. Yeah. You had to come get me from the principal's office. 

Everson Travers 1:04:27
Fondest memory of me, Dad. 

Dan Bennett 1:04:30
My fondest memory of you. 

Rich Bennett 1:04:31
Yeah. 

Dan Bennett 1:04:33
Let me dig through. I'll get back to you. 

All 1:04:35
There's a lot. 

Everson Travers 1:04:36
He's trying to figure out what he can say on the radio and. 

Dan Bennett 1:04:38
Whatnot. 

All 1:04:38
There's a lot 

there. 

Dan Bennett 1:04:43
There's a lot. 

Rich Bennett 1:04:43
Continue on. 

All 1:04:44
Talk about. 

Dan Bennett 1:04:46
This old. This old fashion you made. That's my fondest. 

Rich Bennett 1:04:48
Yeah. Okay. 

All 1:04:49
You say for a. 

Tony Muns 1:04:50
Moment of, like, actual, like just pure bliss fulfillment, you know, was was a moment. It was kind of a selfish thing. I in high school, had a major knee surgery, right? Had a distant femoral osteotomy. And for what? 

All 1:05:03
You know. 

Tony Muns 1:05:05
Not a common surgery. Right. So they basically cut the bottom of your femur because I tore my meniscus so many times. The joint started kind of was out of a line. It was it was out of alignment. Right. So I was going to start wearing on one side versus the other quicker. So they went in, they they cut the bottom of the femur to realign the joint and have a plate like right, have a plate this for it. My femur with seven screws that go the length of the femur. 

Rich Bennett 1:05:32
And this was in while you were in school. 

Tony Muns 1:05:33
To high school. Yeah. Yeah. So junior year, I had that surgery and I'm like, you know what? It's so bad. And the recovery was so bad. I'm like, There's no way I'm coming back to baseball. And that's like, I mean, that was life. 

Rich Bennett 1:05:45
Happy while you're playing baseball. 

Tony Muns 1:05:46
Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, my mom just had breast cancer. My brother had lymphoma. I mean, it was awful time, right? You know, overall. But then I had that surgery now and I'm laying there and I'm like, you know, I'm coming back at some point. I made a decision. I'm like, I'm coming back. You know, I'm going to do whatever I can, even if it's for one at bat. 

Rich Bennett 1:06:06
Right? 

Tony Muns 1:06:07
I want to come back for my senior year to get that moment right, to get that fulfillment. And, you know, I work my tail off and physical therapy. It took a whole probably whole year just to kind of be able to do some things. I obviously wasn't able to play in the field. Was it probably safe to I, you know, come into a game as a as a designated hitter? I even worked extra to be like in better shape than I was before just to get to that at bat. And this was really a a game that didn't matter. Yeah, right. In the grand scheme of things. But everyone on my team knew what was going on, mainly with me. They saw me come back, you know, and get in the batter's box. And, you know, honestly, I'm just like elated just to be there. And, you know, I frickin crack a home run swing. And at the end of the day, like, I'll never forget that I've never and till I got married, probably felt like that. 

Rich Bennett 1:07:05
Right? Right. 

Tony Muns 1:07:06
And, man, I mean, it just goes to show you, like you have difficult moments, times you can overcome it, you know, potentially. Right? You're like, Rudy, that's one of my favorite movies. 

Everson Travers 1:07:21
Mm hmm. 

Rich Bennett 1:07:21
Or you just talked about I just saw a movie similar to that true story. I think it's called The Hill. But a baseball player, he as a kid, he always had braces and grew up in southern Texas or whatever. His father was a preacher. I mean, they were to. Watch the movie. It'll bring tears in your eyes. I mean, their son, Danny. Oh, yeah. Cornbread. That was their meal. 

Everson Travers 1:07:45
Hmm. 

Rich Bennett 1:07:46
You know, because the father was making. 

Joe Ayler 1:07:47
$50 a week or whatever. 

Rich Bennett 1:07:50
But he just, boy, could hit, and that's all he wanted to do. And, and yeah, he did get he got he was drafted or not drafted. He tried out back then they had tryouts and I think it was 40 ex-players. 

Tony Muns 1:08:11
That kind of thing. 

Rich Bennett 1:08:13
Yeah. Yeah. I think it's called the Hill. I hope to find out and send it to you, but. Me. Very good, Bruce. Good. I love you. 

Everson Travers 1:08:20
Yeah, but that's another. That's another thing. On how strong the mind is, man. That's your mindset. You told yourself you're going to be bad again and you focused on being bad again regardless of happened, you focused on that and made that happen. 

Tony Muns 1:08:34
In a year, you know? Yeah. 

Everson Travers 1:08:36
That's the thing. 

Joe Ayler 1:08:37
And whatever else can you can connect, talk, right? 

Everson Travers 1:08:42
Yeah. 

Joe Ayler 1:08:42
You heard that. And I. 

Tony Muns 1:08:44
Have it. 

Rich Bennett 1:08:44
In a way that is on point because. 

Dan Bennett 1:08:47
They call that an intangible. If you're trying to draft somebody. 

Rich Bennett 1:08:50
And telling your story, people can learn from it. I mean, I believe that. 

Everson Travers 1:08:54
I feel you have to take it in. I feel if someone's not open to learning or growing, they're not going to be able to take that in and not be able to resonate with them. I'm saying, you. 

Rich Bennett 1:09:04
Know, all the time. But some people tell. 

Everson Travers 1:09:06
A hundred people in a room and maybe one person. Right. You know, saying understands or gets it because no one else is like that. 

Rich Bennett 1:09:12
Still, you still still one person's learning. 

Joe Ayler 1:09:14
This society is what I call the microwave. 

Everson Travers 1:09:17
Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Right now radiate it. Yeah. Yeah. You know. 

Joe Ayler 1:09:23
I've done a lot of. 

Everson Travers 1:09:25
It the easy. 

Joe Ayler 1:09:25
But I want to say a lot. But I've had a couple really fucked up challenging moments. 

Everson Travers 1:09:29
Mm mm. Mm hmm. 

Joe Ayler 1:09:34
And one in particular. I was going through it, you know, 

my six month from now, self is going to look back on this moment and be like. 

Everson Travers 1:09:46
You did it. Yeah. Yeah. 

Joe Ayler 1:09:48
Easier right now. And I did it. I did that same thing. Six months later, I look back and say, I thought that it's months ago and the is here right now. You know, I don't know if that was something that that's a unique capability. 

Everson Travers 1:10:01
His focus this focus. 

Joe Ayler 1:10:04
Or is it discipline? Is it mindset? Can it be taught? Is it something a little. 

Dan Bennett 1:10:08
Bit of everything. 

Everson Travers 1:10:09
You know? So I feel that everybody has $1,000,000 in their mind, right? Not everybody. Everybody's able to get it out, you know what I'm saying? So that depends on the person. I feel like when people really dig deep, they're always going to get it. Like you tell yourself, you know, Hey, look, I always say, look, you need these hard times because I don't need stories to tell when I'm at the top. You know, I'm saying I got to talk about the hard times because now is the good life you do saying so like, I feel like people can learn it if they're willing to learn. I feel it's in everybody, but it's not going to come out until those individuals are pushed to the limit or they're pushed outside their comfort zone. Because if you're still comfortable and you're going through that hard time, you're not going to push through it. You're I'm saying you might fail, you might buckle, you might just completely give up and be cool with that. But if you feel it inside that, that's your vision, that's your focus, like you're going to push do it by any means. And I definitely can appreciate that because just like Jill said, man, I've been through some tough times. I'm saying you sit in that corner by yourself, you know, you're a you're a boss and you're a father, and you you can't you can't be down right now. You got to do and you got people that need to eat you. You got people that are dependent on you business wise. You've got to make this payroll this week. You know what I'm saying? People don't understand that when everybody's coming at you and you're you're you're ahead of the game and it's tough. But that's that tough mental fortitude, man. That's that focus is going to get you through every time. And I feel everybody has it, but not everybody's able not everybody accesses it, right? You're saying like everybody has it in them. But I feel that not, you know, maybe ten, 15% access that I feel like, you know, the Donald Trumps the the Jeff Bezos, the the the Warren Buffett, they don't make them like that. That's their job. You don't say like that. That's what they're they're built for like a lot of those, you know real big people that are making real type of money. Their relationships fail, right, Because their job comes first. Yeah, but those people were made to be like that. That's their calling, you know, I'm saying. And they're living. They're calling. So everything else comes secondary. You know, some I can't understand that they can't be united with that. You know saying so like all these people have to do these things like, I wanted to be Donald Trump. I wanted to own, you know, hella a real estate. My name is put my name this. But as I started getting bigger and really started making money, I wanted to be in the background. I didn't want to be the front anymore. I didn't want to be out. 

Rich Bennett 1:12:26
You know, get into politics. 

Everson Travers 1:12:27
No, I didn't. I like being on the beach and able to play, you know, deals on the beach and be cool with that. I'm good with that. I'm good with working a couple of hours each day on some high level type of shit and having my people running to do what they got to do. I'm I'm more big on now. I'm putting other people in this business. Not that I don't want to work, I just want to focus on the the eagle eyed things now from my perspective and where I need to be in life. You know, I'm saying I don't I'm I'm utilizing technology, you know, and I'm putting my work in. I'm saying not saying I will get down in the ditch and do whatever I need to do that day. It doesn't matter because of it. Are you going to do that? But those times, I'm ready for the good life. 

Rich Bennett 1:13:00
God, think about it. 4040 years ago, you wouldn't have been able to do that from a beach because you wouldn't have gotten jersey ya'll. 

All 1:13:07
Right? Right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right. 

Everson Travers 1:13:12
They but it's crazy because technology's crazy, man. And and you use it, you know, life can either, you know, crush you or elevate you and it's your choice. And what you do with it also. 

Tony Muns 1:13:21
Sounds like you're willing to put sweat equity into developing the people. 

Rich Bennett 1:13:25
Oh, you have to. 

Everson Travers 1:13:26
Oh, yeah, Yeah. I've spent a long time to get these people. Yeah, Yeah. I've been through a lot of people. I've been burned by many people. When you when you try to grow in business and you need to depend on other people, man, it doesn't work out 90% of the time. You know, I'm saying you got to burn through a lot of people to get through good. Especially nowadays, people don't really want to work. So as you're trying to grow your workforce, you get people that you have to monitor more and more on a daily basis. And, you know, I made life adjustments according to that. You know, I'm saying I only I don't want to depend on so many people for the things that I do, you know what I'm saying? So I have a small group, people that take care of a lot of things for me, and I'm. 

Tony Muns 1:14:03
Good with that. It comes down to do, is it like, is it worth all of the work for the one breakthrough moment, you know, and each person can have a different answer for that? 

Everson Travers 1:14:11
Yeah, definitely. 

Rich Bennett 1:14:13
Going around with Star View. Joe, final words for the listeners or bit of advice or whatever. 

Joe Ayler 1:14:25
I love I love the I'm hung up on like 

just being intentional. Like I think that 

just intentional just, just to be still and be intent and just be a more thoughtful thinker about yourself and about your life and stop comparing shit. I mean, the Internet is a great place, but it's also a very toxic. Yes, I think, you know, what we've all been saying, You know, it's perspective, you know, $50,000 a year in whatever in a townhouse community can look a lot better than 500,000 in a gated community. I it's it's it's just intentional awareness and just to do his perspective and and yeah yeah just awareness yeah. 

Rich Bennett 1:15:25
Everson. 

Everson Travers 1:15:26
Mental focus man we get 100% of the things that we focus on. I feel that, you know, focus on the right things, focus on your priorities, what are your priorities, you know, saying and just like Joe said, man, this social media is, this Internet is crazy comparing yourself to other people. You you stay on the phone all day watching other people's lives and you're not living yours, live your life, whatever that may be. If you want to go swimming all day, you want to go hiking all day, you want to catch fish or go look up shark teeth all day or or sell roller coasters or radios or cars or whatever. Do it. You know, I'm saying nothing is stopping you and stop. Wait until tomorrow. You don't. This. This world is crazy, man. Yeah. Tomorrow's not promised. I have a quote on my stomach tattooed dream as if you'll live forever and live as if you die today. That's a quote by James Dean. You know, I'm saying and that's a strong quote, because I live my life like that. You know, I'm saying like live it to the fullest. Don't let somebody else tell you what life is to figure out what it is for yourself and and dig deep. What is it that you truly want? How much money do you truly want? What is the ideal world? You know, I'm saying don't let else live your life for you. Don't go follow this person into a life or a job because you think it's the right thing to do because they did it. Do what you do, do what you love. And that's that's how you live longer, man. And and just 

focus on yourself. That's not selfish, you know? I'm saying, yeah, focus on self-growth. Focus on being a better person than you were yesterday. And I feel like a lot of people are know it all nowadays. You know, I'm saying like, you don't know nothing. You haven't done anything. You know, I'm saying so stop bitching about it and go do it already. 

Rich Bennett 1:17:06
Tony. 

Tony Muns 1:17:07
You know, I'm just going to say like, you know, try to keep your life more simplistic and focus on the few things that are important right? Mhm. Conquer those things and then build from there. And you know, at the end of the day just, you know, like you said, life's not 

life, it doesn't last forever. And last year we had, you know, Rebecca's dad unfortunately. Yeah. No I, I can take a lot of lessons from that six month, you know, illness there and ultimate, you know death unfortunately but 

you know keep things simple and you know, love yourself first, take care of yourself so that you can take care of others. 

Rich Bennett 1:17:47
Something I like to add to that, too. It's something that's missing. Not just love yourself, but respect yourself, too. 

Tony Muns 1:17:53
Absolutely. 

Rich Bennett 1:17:53
Because that gets that's missing. A lot of people don't respect others because they don't respect themselves. Mm mm. My sign. Did you ever figure out. 

All 1:18:01
On your radio. 

Rich Bennett 1:18:04
So there are several. 

All 1:18:05
Got to hear that. 

Everson Travers 1:18:07
Second old fashioned. 

All 1:18:08
There are several fond memories there. 

Dan Bennett 1:18:11
Several fond memories of you there. Several fond memories of my mom, my Aunt Stephanie. 

Rich Bennett 1:18:15
I'll let you off till the final words. 

Dan Bennett 1:18:18
You know, with I'll just before I say the final words on the topic of today. You really love people. I don't think there's any one fond memory that sticks out with the people you really love. There's several that you would have to spend hours sifting through. 

Rich Bennett 1:18:32
I got hours, not hours. 

Dan Bennett 1:18:35
Okay. Minutes. 

All 1:18:36
Seconds. 

Dan Bennett 1:18:37
Fleeting moments. Wow. Never mind. I would hope that the one big takeaway of today the topic of living a fulfilling life is that that is a 

that's a goal that is different for everybody. You know, this is five men in here representing three generations. If we had if we had Gabby Grammy in here, she would have her own perspective. If we had little Rebecca in here, she would have her own perspective as well of two different, you know, two women from different generations. If they were at this table, we'd have a more different answers. So it's a very happy Grammy. That's what I call her. 

Everson Travers 1:19:17
That's a dope name. 

Rich Bennett 1:19:18
It is, doesn't it? 

All 1:19:19
Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 1:19:20
Mostly the kids call her. Give me some. Call her Grammys. Okay. He's always going to say both. 

Everson Travers 1:19:25
Yeah, that's though. I like that. 

Dan Bennett 1:19:26
Thank you. 

Everson Travers 1:19:26
Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt. 

All 1:19:27
It's all good. It's all good. 

Dan Bennett 1:19:30
But, yeah, it's different for everybody. And I would hope that the biggest takeaway from this conversation is that it is not necessarily material. It is great to accomplish getting a house, getting a car, getting this and that. But, you know having a kid, having a wife, having this and that or husband, whatever, that's all that'll stick with you a little more. And getting knowledge and memories, those will stick with you more than should. I've gone through four cars at this point. Who cares? You know, I'll go through more. 

All 1:20:01
Just. 

Rich Bennett 1:20:01
To back them up into Ferris anymore. 

All 1:20:03
Yeah. 

Dan Bennett 1:20:04
All that didn't break that car, but. Well, it damaged it. It didn't break it though, but yeah, whatever. 

I think a fulfilling life comes more in moments and accomplishments. And as long as you have goals, you will always keep feeling fulfilled. And I think when you die, you probably won't be fully fulfilled because, I mean, I would hope that you die with more goals in mind that you didn't accomplish, because if you accomplish everything, by the time you die, what's left to live. 

Rich Bennett 1:20:33
For 

might drop. 

All 1:20:37
That might drop out. 

Joe Ayler 1:20:40
One more thing. What you input is input. No input bullshit toxic relationship bullshit on the on on the internet. You watch what you watch. What you. 

Everson Travers 1:20:52
Watch. Yeah. Watch What you read. Yeah. 

Joe Ayler 1:20:55
You know, I love the simplicity. People always thinks that Old people always think that complexity equals better 

simplicity. 

Rich Bennett 1:21:07
That's right. Yeah. 

Joe Ayler 1:21:07
And. And perspective. Respect the perspective. I love that. 

Rich Bennett 1:21:12
That's why I don't watch the news anymore. 

Everson Travers 1:21:14
I know you don't. It's depressing. You know, the. 

Rich Bennett 1:21:17
Last thing I would like to add, of course, make a life plan. But something I do every morning. And. And I think if everybody tries is it would definitely help 

before you even get out of bed. Just say something. You're grateful for something different every day. And I guarantee you do that it'll change your life. Oh, God. Why you want. 

Dan Bennett 1:21:40
To? Today I woke up and said, Shit, I'm running late. 

Everson Travers 1:21:46
So he was grateful. He was grateful. 

Dan Bennett 1:21:47
For the snooze button. 

All 1:21:49
Oh, guys, All. 

Rich Bennett 1:21:53
I want to thank you all were the old fashioned. 

Everson Travers 1:21:56
Good enough. They were good. 

Rich Bennett 1:21:57
They were good. Okay. It was a good idea. We won't have to do this again sometime. 

Joe Ayler 1:22:02
I have a little. 

Everson Travers 1:22:03
Hmm. 

Rich Bennett 1:22:04
Well, I'll take it with you, man. You got happy hour.